+Dustin Abbott The written review and gallery are live: To read my written review and see many more sample images, click here: bit.ly/1Mx4y7a and to see my image gallery click here: bit.ly/1WChyhj
Thanks Dustin. I just ordered the F017 and am looking forward to its arrival. The slightly longer than normal focal length for standard shooting is always something I've been drawn to...and to add macro capability is an absolute bonus. My kit contains Canon 6d, 30d and Rebel 5ti bodies with 14, 24 ts, 17-40, 24-105, 50 stm and 100-400. The 90 macro will really round out my creative choices. This was a very factual and accurate review. Thank you for your help.
I'm going from the Canon L to this lens. It's on order and going to put my L up for sale soon. Just recently bought the 70-200 G2 - my first off brand lens - and it's turning into a gateway lens into other brands lol. Hoping to replace my 85 1.8 Canon with Tamron's version.
@@rialbb A great review of Dustin. Let me tell you something. It's not the price always that tells you the good of the lens. Before I make my order I always use to look for reviews. Just compare Tamron and Sigma with Canon when you are looking for lenses. Tamron and Sigma lenses are quite good lenses with good qualities and more than $1000 cheaper. My next Macro lens will be the Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro (F017) for Canon after my research and reviews. Hope my hints are helpful. Regards from Curacao Island.
Dustins reviews always make me want to immediately buy the lenses. So happy there are these really informative videos on Tamron. Bang for Buck they are the best lenses
Dustin, thank you for the review. Based on the recommendation, I decided on it over the Canon l 100 mm. Very happy with the results. What I wanted to convey is the simplicity that you choose while describing and explaining. Proves very beneficial to watch your reviews. Thanks again
Very nice review. Tamron really stepped up their game in terms of build quality. Mine feels and looks fantastic. I found mine to be a little jerky on the focus ring though. It's very smooth to turn overall but when it comes to fine adjustments, the focus ring tends to jump slightly. I don't know if I bought a lemon but the slight jumping in focusing is noticable in filming at macro distance where the depth of field is so narrow.
I bought the first VC model of this lens largely because of your review.. thanks Dustin your one of the best reviewers on You Tube. I love the lens and since they have this new SP version out I got mine for $412 grey market. Its a stunning lens... awesome color, contrast and focus speed, accuracy and quiet motor. Its a fantastic lens.
Dustin, I really like your reviews and find them helpful, actually you are one of 2 people on youtube that I take their input into consideration.Well done.
Great review, For your info Code F004 is an old version and F017 is a Newer version as you mention. Differences are that the Code F004 has a problem with Live View on some Canon Cameras and has no Image Stabilizer. The Newer version F017 has no problem with Live View and has builtin Image Stabilizer. I did appreciated your way and style to talk about this "State of the Art Macro Lens". Everybody is telling that it's one of The Best Macro Lens at the moment and Canon should take this in consideration. Hope to get mine very soon. Thank you Dustin.
i just bought this lens as my first upgrade from my kit lens,and i cant thank you enough man,im having a blast with it,its superb for macro,great for portraits,and the birds i feed in my garden.Thanks sir for this detailed review.
Dustin, would you consider this lens as a good option for portraits on an APS-C body? It would be something like 145 mm I guess, but will it lose much in terms of resolution and general performance?
HI Dustin - thanks for the review. I know it has been posted quite some while ago, I am wondering if this lens is still the best choice for Nikon DSLRs if the best available optical quality is looked for.
Hi Zollie, to be fair, I don't review Nikon, so don't have anything authoritative to tell you on that front, but I can safely say that this remains a very good lens optically.
I think you are one of the few who had done a review on the lens. It is good to see Tamron is moving on to make better lens they put in the market. The pictures you have shown the the 90mm f2.8 Di Macro are very good. The price of the tamron lens is very competitive the canon and Nikon lens out there.
+Miike08 Pennia Thank you. I've had an opportunity to spend some time with the lens before its release date, which is why there aren't a lot of other reviews out there yet.
I have the F004 and it is definitely a good lens. However not sure whether my copy of the lens or the design was flawed, I have dust went in into the lens from the front element after just 2 days of use. Since small aperture has to be used during macro photography, the resulting image was ruined. I sent the lens back for cleaning, but was forced to add a UV filter so no more dust will ever get into the lens.. Kind of annoying though.
Halleluja brother! Another video I watch from you even though I have no interest/intention to buy this particular lens (the 85mm is interesting but so is the Zeiss). I hope you know that your videos are truly one of the best there is! You should've been on the Petapixel list!
Hi Dustin. I had already seen this review some time ago but wanted to refresh my old opinion. I am curious that this video says "Final Review" but in your playlist I do not get any additional video of the ones you usually do. Does that video exist? Thank you.
Hi Peter, this has been a long time ago, so I can't recall what other parts there are in the series. If you don't find others in the playlist, they may not exist.
great review...so,the manual focus is full time like the canon?not focus by wire or electronically coupled? thanks,once again a lens you've reviewed and ill buy due to your great review....
Thank you for the review I found Tamron to be an excellent option when it comes to buying lens myself I own 2 sp lens and I'm considering buying this macro also.
Wow, another excellent review from Dustin. Very informative especially for us who are looking to buy a macro lens (and will be my portrait prime also). For us shopping, the first question is how does it compare to the gold standard (Canon 100mm L) and you have answered that question. I would have liked to see more footage of the actual usage like how fast the AF is. I have the new 35mm and the speed on that is average. Having said that, I would compromise on speed to have better precision. To your credit you did mention that the 2nd Gen 90mm was already good and this new one even better. I don't think you mentioned if the AF was accurate but if you had no complaints on the previous one and this new one is better then I am assuming no problems there. Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the printed article.
Superv review Dustin!!! Clear and detailed explanation of very technical things. Awesome Mr. Abbot, Thanks for again helping me make up my mind on what I not just want, but need...
Hi Dustin, How does your Canon 100mm f2.8L perform against flare (any ghosting etc.?) compared to this lens? And do you think that metal construction of Tamron SP 90mm F017 lens is a bad choice because of the risk of thermal shock? One last question, is tripod mount ring on a lens is important or useful for macro photography?
I've never missed a tripod mount on any macro lens, as they are typically reasonably sized. I don't think the metal construction is an issue at all. As for ghosting or flare - the Canon isn't exempt, but isn't bad, either.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Tamron SP 90mm F017 is priced at 625 USD in India and Canon 100mmL at 800 USD. Is there any reason i should spend 175 Dollars more and buy the Canon 100mmL instead of Tamron?
Hi Herry, it's been five or six years since I've reviewed this lens, and I've reviewed a least a hundred lenses during that time. I don't think I could give you an accurate recall of that. You would be better to ask Tamron.
I have the 70-300 mm by Tamron, and it is a SUPERB lens! The VC is incredible when "stuck" with handheld. When looking for a lens to add to my kit, I look for Tamron first. As a Nikon shooter, I have the Nikon 50mm1.4, bought with my first body, and Tokina wide angle zoom, and 2 Tamrons for now. Looking to add this Macro to my arsenal for product work.
Does it have constant Aperture 2.8 at all focusing distances? Heard otherwise from other reviewers. If no, will this be an issue? Thanks in advance Dustin
That's a complicated subject that a lot of people are confused by. ALL macro lenses have a changed effective aperture at close focus distances (that's physics). For some reason, however, Nikon bodies actually show the closing down aperture on their bodies...but only for the Tamron lens. The physical aperture size doesn't change, however, and is still F2.8. The amount of light that can be gathered at macro focusing distances does change.
Since I bought this lens everything about it was brilliant except one small part - when manual focusing, the ring is very smooth except when I want to do a very small adjustment, it kind of jumps a bit more than I need. Don't know whether that's only my copy of it but it can get a bit frustrating from time to time.
It's been years since I've done this review, so if I didn't mention it in the review, then it isn't a problem. I've reviewed over 100 lenses since then, so I wouldn't be able to add anything more from memory.
Well done review. Having just picked this lens up I would say you pretty much hit the nail on the head. This really is a fine lens in optics, performance and build. I had the Canon L version on my camera and in hand while shopping this lens and am pleased I went with the Tamron. Thanks again for an accurate review!
Nothing has been mentioned about the lens hood. None of the adds make reference to the fact that a hood is included with this lens...at least I hope it does. B&H indicated on the side bar that a hood is included but it is not listed in "what's in the box" .
Great information and review, Dustin. Currently it goes for about the same price as the Canon 100L and each are about double what the F004 can be purchased for. Would you say they are worth the extra ~$400 CAD and if so, with them being the same price, which would you lean toward? I’ll be using it for product photography and portraits as well as some action. Many thanks.
If you are on a tight budget, the F004 isn't a bad choice. It's hard to recommend either the newer Tamron or the Canon lenses over the other, as they are both pretty much equally good.
Thanks for the feedback, Dustin. So if I can I should pony up for either the newer Tamron, or the Canon equivalent? I think that’s what I’ll do. Keep up the excellent and thorough reviews!
I'm searching for a new do-it-all lens with OIS. If the autofocus is quick, this macro could be the best combination of portability, diversity of use, and low light performance with great IOS more than compensating for the loss of a stop of light for handheld indoor shooting. But I don't have a good gauge of how much I am losing in autofocus speed relative to the 85mm f1.8
I realize your interest is in this lens' use in still photography, but I'm wondering if you could comment on the dynamic behavior of the F017's VC compared to the F004? I noticed a bit of ratcheting in the framing of the shot where you tested for flare from direct sunlight, an effect I've seen in some optically stabilized lenses intended for still photography. I find the stabilization in the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 VC works well for handheld video, and would be interested in which of the two 90mm f2.8 VC versions you think would perform more smoothly for video shooting?
The upside of this lens is that you can actually tweak the behavior of the lens' VC for video in the Tap In Console. If you choose the "Viewfinder Stability Priority" mode it is designed specifically for video work. I find the Tamron lenses in this mode work well for video.
Mr Abbott, I enjoyed your review, but I'm confused. dxomark has your Canon macro listed at 3.3 t stops and the last generation tamron at 3.2 t stops. certainly the new lens isn't losing over 50% (half stop) more light that the model it is replacing. with that said, I'm now really excited to add this to my bag!
+Intense Wet Dreams DXO moves in mysterious ways, sometimes. I would think that light transmission, if anything, should be better with this lens, but I did find that variance when testing them in real world usage.
hi, after these time of using both canon and tamron, can you advise on which is still better since the canon and tamron one is now both in a very equal price.
One big plus for the Tamron is the compatibility with the Tap In Console - it allows you to tweak a lot of the lens' behavior. The Tamron is a little bit sharper and has better weather sealing. First party lenses tend to have less glitches when you trade camera bodies, though. I honestly don't know which one I would buy if I didn't already own the Canon.
My god!!! Exactly the same thought i'm having. Really don't know if i should go for first or third party fro resale value.. Arghh.. Thanks a lot anyways... =)
Hey Dustin, if you had the option would you buy the canon or tamron if money was not an issue. The benefit I see of the canon is that the camera will do lens corrections if you shoot Jpeg. All of my other lenses are Canon L glass accept for a Sigma 120-300 2.8 Sport. Great review.
If the lens corrections are a big deal to you, then stick with the Canon. I've owned one for five years and it is exceptional. The new Tamron has a better build and might be a bit sharper overall, but there are some limitations to third party, to be sure.
i have a previous version in an adaptall 2 mount. Used it and loved it till i switched to digital. Then around 2008 i went with the sigma 70mm. Now in 2016 i'm going full circle and using the 272 version. Really wish i had more glass options for the k3
yep. I only use primes so it isn't a deal breaker for me but that dwindling 3rd party support has me looking at nikon or cannon when i jump to full frame in 2 years.
Thank you for truly great reviews. I have to say the build quality of Tamron's lenses is very interesting. I definitely hope Tamron has plans for wider than 35mm lenses. I may just look seriously at a non "L" lens. 😀
Dustin Abbott Yes I have been interested in the 15-30mm but I have a 16-35mm F2.8l Mkii all ready and the weight and lack of filters will hold me back from seriously looking at it. I at present am looking for that "astro" lens with limited to no coma and a fast f2 or wider aperture. For now the Samyang 24mm is looking to be the go to lens. :)
The wait has been worthwhile! I've been using extension rings for awhile now and they are fiddly. Thank for the review. It helped me make up my mind to get this. :)
+Dustin Abbott , indeed. So many lenses, so little cash. LOL Moving to full frame was quite depleting. Sold off my 60 macro because it was too short on fullframe. This one checks more boxes than the others.
Hi Stan - how is it working out for you? I'm about to pull the rigger but have a concern about achieving maximum aperture at short distances - do you have this problem?
Hi! I finally bought this lens a week ago, thanks to your great review, and I'm very happy with it. My only problem is, if even a problem at all, right out of the box, I could see noticeable specs of dust behind the front element! They're not influencing my shots, though. What about yours? Would you care at all?
It isn't typical to have dust right out of the box, but it can happen. It probably won't impact your image quality, but if you think it will bug you, get it exchanged.
I currently have a Nikon D810 and currently using a AF-S NIKKOR 60mm 1:2.8 G ED and wanted to find out if Tamron SP 90mm would be a better lens for up close product still shots? Whatever you can let me know would be great.
Thank you. I just bought the Tamron SP 90mm lens anyway, as a result of watching your video three times; just wanted to make sure that I was making a great purchase. Let me tell you I'm really amazed by this lens. I'll still keep the other lens for different purposes, but this Tamron lens is simply amazing for detailed product still shots. My current setup has allowed me to actually go from F16 (from my Micro NIKKOR 60mm lens WITH 5000K background lighting and using my speed lights) to F16 (from my Tamron SP 90mm lens WITHOUT any background lighting and just using my speed lights). I'm going to toy around with it a bit more, but I'm liking the results so far. Getting the same results, but sharper images...
Hello, I have a question that i can not found answear. The oficial website states that the lens does not have IF (Internal Focusing System) and since i have a d5300 i really need to know if the lens has a built in motor for auto focus or not. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the thorough review, wonder how much focus ring rotation distance you get outside macro range compares to canon 100mm? (recently saw your 100mm long term review!)
Hi Randy, unfortunately this review is WAY too far back for me to remember that bit of information. I've probably reviewed two hundred lenses since this one.
Hi Justin - Can I ask a question please? I have just purchased this lens and am very happy with one reservation. When framing a shot - with AF & VC activated - if I release the shutter button (e.g. to reframe the shot) the image in my viewfinder shifts position slightly. This doesn't happen when VC is off so I assume the problem is related to the VC mechanism? Are you aware of this issue? Not sure if this is a malfunction but any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Allan.
I have seen that behavior at times with certain lenses. It's very uncommon with lenses released in the last four years, but not uncommon before that. If it is a very obvious or damaging behavior, I would recommend having the lens serviced or replaced.
The earlier version of this lens could not get within 50 feet of f2.8. When focused closer than that, the widest aperture it could reach was f3. Any info on whether the new Tap-In Console version shares this limitation?
I used the previous version extensively and never saw what you are describing. I can show you very close focus shots that are still at f/2.8. ALL macro lenses have a much smaller effective aperture value at macro distances. Look in the manual of a Canon/Nikon macro lens and you will probably find a section that describes that even if your camera doesn't show it. The Tamron behaves just like other macro lenses - just the camera doesn't hide it.
Perhaps the particular lens (F004) I tested was defefective? I tried it on D5200, D750, and D500 cameras, and in all three cases it stayed at f3 until just before the manual focus indicator reached infinity, and only then did it open up to f2.8. I measured the f2.8 focus threshold distance at about 50 feet. If you still have the F017 version from this review, could you test it for the closest f2.8 focus distance?
Fallen Star Features I don't have either in hand anymore. Lenses are sent to me for review. I can tell you clearly that this was not the case for me, but that was on Canon bodies.
Here's Tamron's reply to my inquiry. I asked if it was typical for the aperture of the F004 90mm f2.8 VC macro lens to open no wider than f3 when focused on objects closer than about 50 feet: This is only an issue with Nikon lenses/camers. This is not only true for our lenses in Nikon mount, but all of Nikon's macro lenses have the same behavior. The physical aperture size does not change in the lens, however because the lens’ focus group moves forward when focusing towards the 1:1 magnification ratio, the amount of light reaching the sensor is reduced a bit. Canon cameras maintain the aperture value correctly at f/2.8, but vary the shutter speed accordingly. From your brief description of the issue it appears your lens is performing normally. Sounds like when the lens is close-focused, the lens' effective T-stop decreases enough that the camera interprets it as a reduction in F-stop. Unfortunately, this occurs not just at macro focus distances, but as far as 50 feet from the camera.
Thanks for the quick response. I'm really impressed. Actually, I want to make sure I can focus close when shooting portraits (not macro shots necessarily), and still be at f 2.8. I saw some sample close-ups on dpreview which were claimed to have been taken with this lens at f 2.8, while in those macro lenses which extend when focusing close, the maximum aperture of f 5.6 is inevitable.
Thank you so much. This will be the third lens I'm going to buy based on your reviews and comparisons. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this kind of work.
Hi, Thanks for this detailed review. I’ve been saving up and searching to buy a macro lens, would you recommend this lens over the canon’s 100 is L macro? Just heart of the sigma art 70 macro, do you think it would be worth waiting for? Thanks in advance I have a canon 7D II
The 70mm focal length may work better on aPS-C for you. I don't actually know how far out the Sigma 70 is from reaching the market, though, nor do I know the price.
I just got this lens yesterday, after a lot of research (including your video...thank you). I noticed on one of the pieces of literature included with the lens was the admonition not to try to manually focus while the lens is in auto focus mode, at the risk of damaging the lens. But elsewhere in the instructions it said the manual focus ring could be used whether in AF or MF. Do you have a thought on this? Thanks.
Dustin Abbott that’s what I was thinking. I’ve actually already done it, and it continues to work fine. I really like this lens, by the way. It’s my first macro, and I’m looking forward having a lot of fun with it.
Great tutorial. Subscribed! Love it. By the way, what would you recommend for a Nikon D5500 lens use for both Portraiture and close up (macro) shoot (photography and videography)? is there a lens that suit both scenario for my camera? also for the macro extension tube, what would you recommend for my Nikon D5500? Thanks in advance.
I am tempted to order this lens as my first macro glass. My only fear is that down the road I may be sorry that I didn’t get a longer focal length (ie, 105mm). Thoughts?
I doubt that the difference in focal length is significant enough to change much of anything. It's a beautiful lens, but so is the Canon 100mm f/2.8L IS. Both are roughly equal.
Dustin Abbott Thank you sir, but I shoot a Nikon D7200 crop. So, am comparing to the Nikon 105mm (or lastly: the Sigma 105). Think I’ll likely jump on the Tamron. Great review by the way (and I have subscribed).
+Anthony Martin I think he meant that if you're looking for a good macro, then you could go with this instead of the first party lens. If you have the first party lens then you're fine. I personally use the Tokina 100 2.8. Optically, it easily contends with the Canon 100 L but no IS and the AF is noticeably slower. In my case selling my Tokina may be a good option because of the lack of IS/VR/OS/VC and slower focus speed. That said, I haven't had issues with focusing speed when I do weddings as I don't use it when a lot of subject movement is expected, the only incentive for me would be the VC. You get the point.
Very detail and excellent review as always, Mr Abott. Greetings from Jakarta. I own Canon mirrorless M5 and would like to check this lens bokeh, autofocus and sharpness with Canon adapter. Does this combination makes any diffrence in performance? Do you ever heard any issue on this lens with that combination (mirrorless + adapter + Tamron sp 90mm macro)? Thanks...!
I've not experimented with that combo. The only one of those factors that would be affected, however, is autofocus. The adapter has no lens elements, so optical properties are not affected as long as the adapter seats properly.
Hi. I'm using a Nikon DX body.I'm confused between 85 & 90. I can only buy one. My main priority is portrait , including children . 90mm is also cheaper than the 85mm. Which one will b better ?
Hey Dustin. New subscriber here. I have found the oldest version of this lens (Tamron SP AF90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO1:1 Model 272E) for $180 which seems like a steal. I have found the new version (F017) for $360. Both new. Which one would you go for?
Hi again. Sorry for so many questions, but I'm on the verge of buying one of these lenses and wish to be as certain as I can be about which on will serve me better. I would like to buy a macro, as I already said, but wish it to be a usefull tools for portrature as well. Between the Canon 100mm 2.8L IS and the Tamron 90mm 2.8 VC for this goal, what would you say?
I'm sorry to not be more definitive, but I can't really recommend one over the other. They are pretty much equal lenses, with pros and cons on either side. Go for the one that you can get the best deal on.
what should you be the best choice between the 100 canon en the 90 Tamron for stabilization of imagine,i like to know if i could make disappear soma bump when yoused for video withe a dolly ?
Hey, didnt you do a IQ Quality breakdown of this tamron lens? Cant find it! And, I have the version two of this lens and I love it! But do you think its worth it to upgrade to this new version of this lens? Best regards.
@@DustinAbbottTWI oh okej! Wasnt it this tamron lens that you compared the bokeh with your vintage lenses? I must be remembering it wrong, but which lens was that?
Hi Dustin. I've been dabbling in Macro photography with extension tubes (on a 50 mm prime), and I'm seriously eyeing up this lens to be used on a crop sensor, but I´ve heard talk about focus breathing with it. I shoot Canon, and their 100 mm macro L is pretty expensive for me, though I'd consider a second hand one. What do you think? Thanks in advance.
Focus breathing for what? Video? You get 1:1 reproduction with the Tamron, so you aren't getting focus breathing for stills. I still think this is a great lens for the money.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for your reply. I´m quite new to the concept of focus breathing and had read it was a problem in macro photography. I seem to have been misinformed.
@@DustinAbbottTWI My reseach leads me to believe that I can get a new Tamron or a used Canon 100 mm L for around the same money. I think I´ll go for the Tamron.
Hi DustIn , Video Is Very Helpful Thank You For Doing It. My Question I shoot with a nikon d750 an i'm looking for a macro lens.. would you say this would be the best lens to get or would you recommend another lens..
greatday Dustin, is this lens made in Japan? TQ & how about the comparison between Tamron sp 90mm f/2.8 (017) & Samyang 100mm f/2.8, which one better image quality, sharpness & detail? TQ
Could you tell me which lenses is the most rewarding if I am using canon 600d and mostly do street photography, landscapes, portraits and indoor (restaurants for example)? I can't decide 'cause I am using 18-55 mm lens for very long period and for portraits 50 mm and I need to move up :) Thanks a lot !
+Henrik Karlsson The optical formula is mostly unchanged other than some minor tweaks and improved coatings. This update is more about handling, build, AF, etc...
Dustin I have a question, what lens would you buy first, I am stuck between the Tamron sp 85&90mm... I watched all your reviews and really love them.. Keep up the good work.. Oh and I want to buy both of the lenses with time, just don't know witch to pick first..
What's your priority in shooting? That should give you your answer. I think the 90 VC is in some ways the more versatile lens; you can use it for pretty much everything.
Thank you both, I bought the 90mm and preordered the Canon 5D mkIV.... Next year I will be getting the 85mm lens.. But the 90 is fantastic.. And Dustin keep up the great work.. A true fan from Germany.
hi dustin wich of the two lenses would i get for macro on a canon crop body , this tamron sp 90mm vc or the canon 100mm L lens , ist really difficult for me ... hope you can help out good sir
I don't really have a definitive answer to that question. I don't think one lens is better than the other. Just pick the one that you can get the best price on.
well for me its basically , what lens gives better image quality, on dxo its say's the canon has 13pixels on a canon 750d but the tamron they didn't test... ;)
Dustin, I intend to buy a macro lens and I'm considering the Canon 100mm 2.8L IS and the Tamron 90mm 2.8 VC. The price difference is not large and so it's not a concern. Which one would you recomend? Thank you
Either lens is exceptional. If you feel like you would even resell the lens, the Canon will probably hold value a little better. The Tamron has a better warranty, though. No wrong answer here.
waiting for written review, thanks for quick review. Since my 100L has had a visit to service centre for stuck aperture blades, I am going to replace that lens with this new Tamron.
+Chaitanya Shukla Wow - that doesn't sound like a typical problem! I think you will be happy with this lens. The written review is under a moratorium, as is the image gallery until another week.
Jammed aperture blades is a common problem for us, we use our macro lenses during monsoons in Western ghats to photograph frogs and snakes and the humidity manages to jam the aperture blades. Amongst my group of herpers including my 100L, my friend's 100mm(Non L) and other friend's Micro Nikkor 105mm have had this issue. And a trip to service centre to get those jammed blades repaired is not a cheap one. I had mine repaired in last August but now in couple of months time Monsoons will arrive and I am worried of the aperture jamming again so I am planning to sell my 100L and replace it with this new Tamron 90mm VC.
Dustin Abbott That's what I am hoping for, the better weather sealing would mean more reliable service during monsoons. When I talked with Tamron India, they said this new Macro lens will arrive in mid May giving me enough time to sell my 100mm L and just in time for monsoon's arrival in 1st week of June.
+Chaitanya Shukla Perfect. I do believe the weather sealing is at a higher grade than the 100L. I have rarely been in a situation with mine that stressed it, but you've got a serious issue to contend with. Tamron is making a smart move in setting their products apart with enhanced weather sealing.
would you recommend this over the Nikon 85mm f/1.8g?. I'm planning to buy either of the two for my d610. I mainly shoot portraits but also want to try macro. Is this lens also good for portrait shots?
Very nice review as always Dustin! I'm on the market now for a macro lens for my old Canon EOS 550D. I'm on the fence between this Tamron 90mm vs Sigma 105mm. Both have excellent reviews and they are almost similarly priced. I hope you can help me with this decision. Thank you very much!
@@DustinAbbottTWI oh I see. Im excited right bow to explore the world of macrophotography. Thank you very much for replying Dustin. I've subscribed to you because of your excellent work. Hope I can get similar support for my channel also. Thank you! 🙏
+Edoardo Marino (Dodi) Technically the aperture will always be at f/2.8 no matter the focus distance. I've heard that rumor before, but it is baseless. The physical aperture does not change. The amount of light that reaches the sensor at very close focus distance might, but not the aperture.
That's great! Not that I would consider shooting minimum focus at 2.8, but having this lens be with fixed aperture will act as a great traditional prime with a huge focus advantage. Also, have you thought about Tamron's moist and dust sealing construction be the cause of the Canon winning over with a higher light transmission?
Hi Dustin! I am thinking of trading in my trusty Canon 100 2.8L IS for this Tamron. If I understand your correctly, I will be just as well off as before, including IQ and focus, just gain additional weather sealing, correct? Any reason to still prefer the Canon? Also, do you think we can expect a new Tamron SP 180 macro sometime soon? Greetings from Spain, Dirk
+Canigou Cycling - Girona & Pyrenees Road Cycling I've heard nothing about a new 180mm, but that doesn't mean much. I didn't know this one was coming until the announcement. Image quality on the 90 (F017) is definitely as good if not a bit better. I haven't used the Tamron long term, but during my head to head comparison I saw nothing to indicate that your conclusion is incorrect.
Dustin Abbott Thank you for your quick reply! Honestly I will make this switch mostly for the neatness of my kit, lol Canon 16-35 4L, 24-105 4L II, 100-400 4.5-5.6L II plus all four new Tamron SP primes. Sweet! It took about 1 1/2 years to move to this kit from the last gen. Canon trinity 2.8L plus the 100 2.8L Macro. So much more creative possibilities by keeping the zooms at f4 and having some fast primes instead! The current Canon 2.8 zooms are just overpriced and it was great to see how much I could still get for my old lenses! Now, this final move of the Macro lens is basically free! Thanks for opening my eyes and enjoy Arizona ;)
Oh well, just one day before the Tamron 90 Macro arrive, my Canon 100 2.8L IS Macro fell out of my bag onto the floor. No visible damage at all, but AF & IS no longer function. I am afraid the repair will be quite expensive ... Does anyone have experience with this? Better to repair and then to sell, or is it possible to sell the lens like this?
The Tamron SP 90 2.8 Macro arrived and I absolutely love it! Yes, I can confirm that the VC on this SP lens is louder than on the new Tamron 35, the 45 and the 85. One downside to this lens is the filter size of 62mm. The other three SP primes (35, 45, & 85) have a more common 67mm filter. It really would have been much more practical to have this set of four Tamron SP VC prime lenses with all being the same filter size 67. Additionally, maybe with the bit larger opening, this Tamron 90 Macro would have been as bright, or brighter than, the Canon 100 2.8L IS Macro? I like how you point out this filter size issue on your latest Canon M lens review!
@@DustinAbbottTWI I was thinking it would make a great portrait/macro lens but realistically the 85mm 1.8 would be a better buy due to having the 70-200 f2.8 anyway. The 85mm and 90mm are the same price here pretty much in the uk. I'd love it tamron dropped a 135mm 1.8 with their great vc!
Hi Dustin! Have you got the 85mm f1.8 VC already? It launched almost 2 weeks ago but i cant find sample shots and reviews anywhere, thats weird. Wish to see you reviewing it soon ;) Thanks
+kaduzera I actually haven't yet - of which I'm surprised. No copies have yet arrived in Canada. B&H shows it in stock, though, so if Canada doesn't get some in a few days I'll have them send me one.
Found it could work with better af performance on my Nikon mirrorless Z 50 than DSLR D 7100. Love it.
Enjoy!
My written review and image gallery are under a moratorium until March 19th. I will add the linkage when it goes live!
+Dustin Abbott The written review and gallery are live: To read my written review and see many more sample images, click here: bit.ly/1Mx4y7a and to see my image gallery click here: bit.ly/1WChyhj
+Dustin Abbott Looking forward to a review of the Tamron SP 85mm!
+Comalv Should arrive any day
hello. is it compatible with canon APS-C camera?
Thanks Dustin. I just ordered the F017 and am looking forward to its arrival. The slightly longer than normal focal length for standard shooting is always something I've been drawn to...and to add macro capability is an absolute bonus.
My kit contains Canon 6d, 30d and Rebel 5ti bodies with 14, 24 ts, 17-40, 24-105, 50 stm and 100-400. The 90 macro will really round out my creative choices.
This was a very factual and accurate review.
Thank you for your help.
+Stephen Lambrecht That sounds like a pretty solid kit all around. Enjoy the lens!
I was just about to buy the Canon L version, But now i will save myself a few hundred dollars and get the Tamron!
Thanks for the review !!!
Glad to help out!
Did you buy it in the end? How is it? Any regrets?
I'm going from the Canon L to this lens. It's on order and going to put my L up for sale soon. Just recently bought the 70-200 G2 - my first off brand lens - and it's turning into a gateway lens into other brands lol. Hoping to replace my 85 1.8 Canon with Tamron's version.
@@rialbb A great review of Dustin. Let me tell you something. It's not the price always that tells you the good of the lens. Before I make my order I always use to look for reviews. Just compare Tamron and Sigma with Canon when you are looking for lenses.
Tamron and Sigma lenses are quite good lenses with good qualities and more than $1000 cheaper. My next Macro lens will be the Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro (F017) for Canon after my research and reviews. Hope my hints are helpful. Regards from Curacao Island.
Dustins reviews always make me want to immediately buy the lenses. So happy there are these really informative videos on Tamron. Bang for Buck they are the best lenses
They definitely provide good bang for the buck.
Dustin, thank you for the review.
Based on the recommendation, I decided on it over the Canon l 100 mm.
Very happy with the results.
What I wanted to convey is the simplicity that you choose while describing and explaining.
Proves very beneficial to watch your reviews.
Thanks again
I'm glad the review helped out!
Very nice review. Tamron really stepped up their game in terms of build quality. Mine feels and looks fantastic. I found mine to be a little jerky on the focus ring though. It's very smooth to turn overall but when it comes to fine adjustments, the focus ring tends to jump slightly. I don't know if I bought a lemon but the slight jumping in focusing is noticable in filming at macro distance where the depth of field is so narrow.
It may break in a bit with some use.
I bought the first VC model of this lens largely because of your review.. thanks Dustin your one of the best reviewers on You Tube. I love the lens and since they have this new SP version out I got mine for $412 grey market. Its a stunning lens... awesome color, contrast and focus speed, accuracy and quiet motor. Its a fantastic lens.
Good for you!
your 85mm 1.8vc portrait samples are identical to your 50-100 portrait examples? what say you?
*****
They're not, actually. I shot both lenses as a part of that shoot.
Dustin, I really like your reviews and find them helpful, actually you are one of 2 people on youtube that I take their input into consideration.Well done.
Thank you!
Great review,
For your info Code F004 is an old version and F017 is a Newer version as you mention.
Differences are that the Code F004 has a problem with Live View on some Canon Cameras and has no Image Stabilizer.
The Newer version F017 has no problem with Live View and has builtin Image Stabilizer.
I did appreciated your way and style to talk about this "State of the Art Macro Lens".
Everybody is telling that it's one of The Best Macro Lens at the moment and Canon should take this in consideration.
Hope to get mine very soon.
Thank you Dustin.
Enjoy your new lens.
i just bought this lens as my first upgrade from my kit lens,and i cant thank you enough man,im having a blast with it,its superb for macro,great for portraits,and the birds i feed in my garden.Thanks sir for this detailed review.
I'm glad you are enjoying it.
One of the best reviewers on RUclips. For photography a must.
Thank you very much.
Dustin, would you consider this lens as a good option for portraits on an APS-C body? It would be something like 145 mm I guess, but will it lose much in terms of resolution and general performance?
Good question
HI Dustin - thanks for the review. I know it has been posted quite some while ago, I am wondering if this lens is still the best choice for Nikon DSLRs if the best available optical quality is looked for.
Hi Zollie, to be fair, I don't review Nikon, so don't have anything authoritative to tell you on that front, but I can safely say that this remains a very good lens optically.
I think you are one of the few who had done a review on the lens. It is good to see Tamron is moving on to make better lens they put in the market.
The pictures you have shown the the 90mm f2.8 Di Macro are very good. The price of the tamron lens is very competitive the canon and Nikon lens out there.
+Miike08 Pennia Thank you. I've had an opportunity to spend some time with the lens before its release date, which is why there aren't a lot of other reviews out there yet.
I have the F004 and it is definitely a good lens. However not sure whether my copy of the lens or the design was flawed, I have dust went in into the lens from the front element after just 2 days of use. Since small aperture has to be used during macro photography, the resulting image was ruined. I sent the lens back for cleaning, but was forced to add a UV filter so no more dust will ever get into the lens.. Kind of annoying though.
+Kai Hin Lkh The F017 seems to have gotten that problem solved!
Halleluja brother! Another video I watch from you even though I have no interest/intention to buy this particular lens (the 85mm is interesting but so is the Zeiss). I hope you know that your videos are truly one of the best there is! You should've been on the Petapixel list!
+Henrik Karlsson That's kind of you. Thanks!
Hi Dustin. I had already seen this review some time ago but wanted to refresh my old opinion. I am curious that this video says "Final Review" but in your playlist I do not get any additional video of the ones you usually do. Does that video exist? Thank you.
Hi Peter, this has been a long time ago, so I can't recall what other parts there are in the series. If you don't find others in the playlist, they may not exist.
@@DustinAbbottTWI It was what I suspected. Thanks for the quick response Dustin. Always a loyal subscriber.
great review...so,the manual focus is full time like the canon?not focus by wire or electronically coupled? thanks,once again a lens you've reviewed and ill buy due to your great review....
It is full time MF override, yes.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you.
I'm wondering how much focusing speed I lose going with this lens over the 85mm f1.8 VC Tamron.
Hello Dustin and thank you for this comprehensive and objective comparison. But in the end, which one do you use? the Canon or the Tamron?
I already owned the Canon, so I kept that
Awesome vid. Thank you SO much! Great delivery.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the review I found Tamron to be an excellent option when it comes to buying lens myself I own 2 sp lens and I'm considering buying this macro also.
It is an excellent lens.
Thank you for this! I was considering this lens, but this is the first I've heard of the new version.
+Buddy Cox Some very nice upgrades for no more money. sounds good to me!
Wow, another excellent review from Dustin. Very informative especially for us who are looking to buy a macro lens (and will be my portrait prime also). For us shopping, the first question is how does it compare to the gold standard (Canon 100mm L) and you have answered that question. I would have liked to see more footage of the actual usage like how fast the AF is. I have the new 35mm and the speed on that is average. Having said that, I would compromise on speed to have better precision. To your credit you did mention that the 2nd Gen 90mm was already good and this new one even better. I don't think you mentioned if the AF was accurate but if you had no complaints on the previous one and this new one is better then I am assuming no problems there. Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the printed article.
+lyndon mendoza The new one is noticeably faster. I mention that it is now as fast as my 100L and perhaps faster to rack the full range of focus.
Superv review Dustin!!! Clear and detailed explanation of very technical things. Awesome Mr. Abbot,
Thanks for again helping me make up my mind on what I not just want, but need...
Glad to help out.
Hi Dustin,
How does your Canon 100mm f2.8L perform against flare (any ghosting etc.?) compared to this lens?
And do you think that metal construction of Tamron SP 90mm F017 lens is a bad choice because of the risk of thermal shock?
One last question, is tripod mount ring on a lens is important or useful for macro photography?
I've never missed a tripod mount on any macro lens, as they are typically reasonably sized. I don't think the metal construction is an issue at all. As for ghosting or flare - the Canon isn't exempt, but isn't bad, either.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Tamron SP 90mm F017 is priced at 625 USD in India and Canon 100mmL at 800 USD. Is there any reason i should spend 175 Dollars more and buy the Canon 100mmL instead of Tamron?
Not really.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the help. 🙂
Shalom Dustin,my tamron 90mm f017 vc
,if the VC is on, there is an audible sound during AF and after the picture is taken. Is that normal?
Tamron 90mm F017 MACRO. Does this lens' VC makes noise?
Hi Herry, it's been five or six years since I've reviewed this lens, and I've reviewed a least a hundred lenses during that time. I don't think I could give you an accurate recall of that. You would be better to ask Tamron.
@@DustinAbbottTWI ,OK.thank you for replied,Dustin 🙏👍
Hi Dustin have you done a review of sigma 105mm. which would be better this tamron lens or the sigma lens
I'm afraid I haven't reviewed it, so I can't really give you an informed opinion.
I have the 70-300 mm by Tamron, and it is a SUPERB lens! The VC is incredible when "stuck" with handheld. When looking for a lens to add to my kit, I look for Tamron first. As a Nikon shooter, I have the Nikon 50mm1.4, bought with my first body, and Tokina wide angle zoom, and 2 Tamrons for now. Looking to add this Macro to my arsenal for product work.
Tamron's VC systems are often fantastic, and the one on the 70-300 was among the most effective of its time.
Does it have constant Aperture 2.8 at all focusing distances? Heard otherwise from other reviewers. If no, will this be an issue? Thanks in advance Dustin
That's a complicated subject that a lot of people are confused by. ALL macro lenses have a changed effective aperture at close focus distances (that's physics). For some reason, however, Nikon bodies actually show the closing down aperture on their bodies...but only for the Tamron lens. The physical aperture size doesn't change, however, and is still F2.8. The amount of light that can be gathered at macro focusing distances does change.
Since I bought this lens everything about it was brilliant except one small part - when manual focusing, the ring is very smooth except when I want to do a very small adjustment, it kind of jumps a bit more than I need. Don't know whether that's only my copy of it but it can get a bit frustrating from time to time.
+Oxidator Interesting. I don't remember having such an issue, but 1) it has been a while since I reviewed the lens and 2) it could be copy specific.
Hello Mr Abbott, thanks for this review, I would like to know if this lens suffers fron Focus Shift...Thank you
It's been years since I've done this review, so if I didn't mention it in the review, then it isn't a problem. I've reviewed over 100 lenses since then, so I wouldn't be able to add anything more from memory.
Well done review. Having just picked this lens up I would say you pretty much hit the nail on the head. This really is a fine lens in optics, performance and build. I had the Canon L version on my camera and in hand while shopping this lens and am pleased I went with the Tamron. Thanks again for an accurate review!
Thanks for the nice feedback and for the anecdote of a real buyer.
Hi Mark - do you have this reported problem when taking non-macro shots where you can't get maximum aperture within about 8 meters?!!
DrummingSpain m planning for 90mm for portrait. What's the maximum aperture that can b achieved ?
I've no idea! In the end I bought the Sigma 105 f2.8 and it's a superb piece of glass, I'm very happy with it!
Nothing has been mentioned about the lens hood.
None of the adds make reference to the fact that a hood is included with this lens...at least I hope it does. B&H indicated on the side bar that a hood is included but it is not listed in "what's in the box" .
+Stephen Lambrecht It is definitely included in the box.
Another incentive for Canon shooters as Canon doesn't generally include a lens hood.
floex831
The L series lenses do, but nothing else.
Great information and review, Dustin. Currently it goes for about the same price as the Canon 100L and each are about double what the F004 can be purchased for. Would you say they are worth the extra ~$400 CAD and if so, with them being the same price, which would you lean toward? I’ll be using it for product photography and portraits as well as some action. Many thanks.
If you are on a tight budget, the F004 isn't a bad choice. It's hard to recommend either the newer Tamron or the Canon lenses over the other, as they are both pretty much equally good.
Thanks for the feedback, Dustin. So if I can I should pony up for either the newer Tamron, or the Canon equivalent? I think that’s what I’ll do. Keep up the excellent and thorough reviews!
Dustin is the Professor of lenses!
Best reviewer out there
That's very kind. Thank you
Stoked to try this out. Getting into more product photography and the timing for this lens seems perfect.
+Eric Rose Definitely. Should be a great tool for your purposes!
I'm searching for a new do-it-all lens with OIS. If the autofocus is quick, this macro could be the best combination of portability, diversity of use, and low light performance with great IOS more than compensating for the loss of a stop of light for handheld indoor shooting. But I don't have a good gauge of how much I am losing in autofocus speed relative to the 85mm f1.8
I think it will work fine for you. Just use the focus limiter in those situations
One of the best reviews I've seen. Appreciate the detail.
Thank you very much
I realize your interest is in this lens' use in still photography, but I'm wondering if you could comment on the dynamic behavior of the F017's VC compared to the F004? I noticed a bit of ratcheting in the framing of the shot where you tested for flare from direct sunlight, an effect I've seen in some optically stabilized lenses intended for still photography. I find the stabilization in the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 VC works well for handheld video, and would be interested in which of the two 90mm f2.8 VC versions you think would perform more smoothly for video shooting?
The upside of this lens is that you can actually tweak the behavior of the lens' VC for video in the Tap In Console. If you choose the "Viewfinder Stability Priority" mode it is designed specifically for video work. I find the Tamron lenses in this mode work well for video.
Mr Abbott, I enjoyed your review, but I'm confused.
dxomark has your Canon macro listed at 3.3 t stops and the last generation tamron at 3.2 t stops.
certainly the new lens isn't losing over 50% (half stop) more light that the model it is replacing.
with that said, I'm now really excited to add this to my bag!
+Intense Wet Dreams DXO moves in mysterious ways, sometimes. I would think that light transmission, if anything, should be better with this lens, but I did find that variance when testing them in real world usage.
hi, after these time of using both canon and tamron, can you advise on which is still better since the canon and tamron one is now both in a very equal price.
One big plus for the Tamron is the compatibility with the Tap In Console - it allows you to tweak a lot of the lens' behavior. The Tamron is a little bit sharper and has better weather sealing. First party lenses tend to have less glitches when you trade camera bodies, though. I honestly don't know which one I would buy if I didn't already own the Canon.
My god!!! Exactly the same thought i'm having. Really don't know if i should go for first or third party fro resale value.. Arghh..
Thanks a lot anyways... =)
Hey Dustin, if you had the option would you buy the canon or tamron if money was not an issue. The benefit I see of the canon is that the camera will do lens corrections if you shoot Jpeg. All of my other lenses are Canon L glass accept for a Sigma 120-300 2.8 Sport. Great review.
If the lens corrections are a big deal to you, then stick with the Canon. I've owned one for five years and it is exceptional. The new Tamron has a better build and might be a bit sharper overall, but there are some limitations to third party, to be sure.
i have a previous version in an adaptall 2 mount. Used it and loved it till i switched to digital. Then around 2008 i went with the sigma 70mm. Now in 2016 i'm going full circle and using the 272 version. Really wish i had more glass options for the k3
That's one of the hangups for Pentax bodies.
yep. I only use primes so it isn't a deal breaker for me but that dwindling 3rd party support has me looking at nikon or cannon when i jump to full frame in 2 years.
Thanks ... if u wanna buy a new macro lens for portrait and product photography wich one do u choose between canon and new tamron?
Either lens will do a great job. Buy the lens that you consider the best value.
Dustin Abbott thanks man
Watching your review makes me want to buy this instead of 100mmL. But will this lens work with EOS M series, especially M6 via adapter Mr Abbott?
I haven't tested that combination.
Thanks for the great review, just ordered mine!!
Enjoy!
Thank you for truly great reviews. I have to say the build quality of Tamron's lenses is very interesting. I definitely hope Tamron has plans for wider than 35mm lenses. I may just look seriously at a non "L" lens. 😀
+Drew May Since 85mm is next, I suspect that they may look wider, but I don't know that. Their 15-30 VC is a very good lens, though quite large.
Dustin Abbott Yes I have been interested in the 15-30mm but I have a 16-35mm F2.8l Mkii all ready and the weight and lack of filters will hold me back from seriously looking at it. I at present am looking for that "astro" lens with limited to no coma and a fast f2 or wider aperture. For now the Samyang 24mm is looking to be the go to lens. :)
The wait has been worthwhile! I've been using extension rings for awhile now and they are fiddly.
Thank for the review. It helped me make up my mind to get this. :)
+stanchung69 Enjoy. Extension tubes are a nice budget way to add some magnification, but aren't really a true replacement for a good macro lens.
+Dustin Abbott , indeed. So many lenses, so little cash. LOL
Moving to full frame was quite depleting. Sold off my 60 macro because it was too short on fullframe. This one checks more boxes than the others.
Hi Stan - how is it working out for you? I'm about to pull the rigger but have a concern about achieving maximum aperture at short distances - do you have this problem?
Hi! I finally bought this lens a week ago, thanks to your great review, and I'm very happy with it. My only problem is, if even a problem at all, right out of the box, I could see
noticeable specs of dust behind the front element! They're not influencing my shots, though. What about yours? Would you care at all?
It isn't typical to have dust right out of the box, but it can happen. It probably won't impact your image quality, but if you think it will bug you, get it exchanged.
Thanks a lot. :)
I currently have a Nikon D810 and currently using a AF-S NIKKOR 60mm 1:2.8 G ED and wanted to find out if Tamron SP 90mm would be a better lens for up close product still shots? Whatever you can let me know would be great.
I would definitely prefer the working distance of the 90mm lens. Exceptional image quality, too.
Thank you. I just bought the Tamron SP 90mm lens anyway, as a result of watching your video three times; just wanted to make sure that I was making a great purchase. Let me tell you I'm really amazed by this lens. I'll still keep the other lens for different purposes, but this Tamron lens is simply amazing for detailed product still shots. My current setup has allowed me to actually go from F16 (from my Micro NIKKOR 60mm lens WITH 5000K background lighting and using my speed lights) to F16 (from my Tamron SP 90mm lens WITHOUT any background lighting and just using my speed lights). I'm going to toy around with it a bit more, but I'm liking the results so far. Getting the same results, but sharper images...
Lad Mandiola
That's great to hear. Enjoy the lens!
Hello,
I have a question that i can not found answear.
The oficial website states that the lens does not have IF (Internal Focusing System) and since i have a d5300 i really need to know if the lens has a built in motor for auto focus or not.
Thanks for the help.
It is internal focus, and yes, it has a focus motor.
Thanks for the thorough review, wonder how much focus ring rotation distance you get outside macro range compares to canon 100mm? (recently saw your 100mm long term review!)
Hi Randy, unfortunately this review is WAY too far back for me to remember that bit of information. I've probably reviewed two hundred lenses since this one.
Excellent review! How about using this macro lens for taking action photos like of children or pets?. Thanks Dustin
With good technique it should work fine. The autofocus is quick enough.
Hi Justin - Can I ask a question please? I have just purchased this lens and am very happy with one reservation. When framing a shot - with AF & VC activated - if I release the shutter button (e.g. to reframe the shot) the image in my viewfinder shifts position slightly. This doesn't happen when VC is off so I assume the problem is related to the VC mechanism? Are you aware of this issue? Not sure if this is a malfunction but any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Allan.
I have seen that behavior at times with certain lenses. It's very uncommon with lenses released in the last four years, but not uncommon before that. If it is a very obvious or damaging behavior, I would recommend having the lens serviced or replaced.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you Dustin.
The earlier version of this lens could not get within 50 feet of f2.8. When focused closer than that, the widest aperture it could reach was f3. Any info on whether the new Tap-In Console version shares this limitation?
I used the previous version extensively and never saw what you are describing. I can show you very close focus shots that are still at f/2.8. ALL macro lenses have a much smaller effective aperture value at macro distances. Look in the manual of a Canon/Nikon macro lens and you will probably find a section that describes that even if your camera doesn't show it. The Tamron behaves just like other macro lenses - just the camera doesn't hide it.
Perhaps the particular lens (F004) I tested was defefective? I tried it on D5200, D750, and D500 cameras, and in all three cases it stayed at f3 until just before the manual focus indicator reached infinity, and only then did it open up to f2.8. I measured the f2.8 focus threshold distance at about 50 feet. If you still have the F017 version from this review, could you test it for the closest f2.8 focus distance?
Fallen Star Features
I don't have either in hand anymore. Lenses are sent to me for review. I can tell you clearly that this was not the case for me, but that was on Canon bodies.
Fallen Star Features
I think you would be better served by putting this question to Tamron. I can't tell you more than I already have.
Here's Tamron's reply to my inquiry. I asked if it was typical for the aperture of the F004 90mm f2.8 VC macro lens to open no wider than f3 when focused on objects closer than about 50 feet:
This is only an issue with Nikon lenses/camers. This is not only true
for our lenses in Nikon mount, but all of Nikon's macro lenses have the
same behavior. The physical aperture size does not change in the lens,
however because the lens’ focus group moves forward when focusing
towards the 1:1 magnification ratio, the amount of light reaching the
sensor is reduced a bit. Canon cameras maintain the aperture value
correctly at f/2.8, but vary the shutter speed accordingly. From your
brief description of the issue it appears your lens is performing
normally.
Sounds like when the lens is close-focused, the lens' effective T-stop decreases enough that the camera interprets it as a reduction in F-stop. Unfortunately, this occurs not just at macro focus distances, but as far as 50 feet from the camera.
Hii Dustin, nice review! I have a question, is this lens compatible to my Canon EOS 750D? Thanks :)
Definitely is.
Dustin, have you stopped making videos? I have not seen any new videos from you lately.
You may need to hit the notification bell, as I release about three videos per week.
Thank you so much, Dustin, for the informative video. My question is will the aperture close, just like the older version, as you focus closer?
All macro lens have smaller effective apertures at macro distances. Canon and Nikon mask that; the Tamron does not.
Thanks for the quick response. I'm really impressed. Actually, I want to make sure I can focus close when shooting portraits (not macro shots necessarily), and still be at f 2.8. I saw some sample close-ups on dpreview which were claimed to have been taken with this lens at f 2.8, while in those macro lenses which extend when focusing close, the maximum aperture of f 5.6 is inevitable.
Javad Khaleghzadeh
You'll have no such issue at portrait distances. Effective aperture only changes at very close (macro) distances.
Thank you so much. This will be the third lens I'm going to buy based on your reviews and comparisons. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this kind of work.
Javad Khaleghzadeh
Glad to help out.
Hi,
Thanks for this detailed review.
I’ve been saving up and searching to buy a macro lens, would you recommend this lens over the canon’s 100 is L macro?
Just heart of the sigma art 70 macro, do you think it would be worth waiting for?
Thanks in advance
I have a canon 7D II
The 70mm focal length may work better on aPS-C for you. I don't actually know how far out the Sigma 70 is from reaching the market, though, nor do I know the price.
I just got this lens yesterday, after a lot of research (including your video...thank you). I noticed on one of the pieces of literature included with the lens was the admonition not to try to manually focus while the lens is in auto focus mode, at the risk of damaging the lens. But elsewhere in the instructions it said the manual focus ring could be used whether in AF or MF. Do you have a thought on this?
Thanks.
That's an oddity. Tamron's USD motors DO allow for full time time manual override.
Dustin Abbott that’s what I was thinking. I’ve actually already done it, and it continues to work fine. I really like this lens, by the way. It’s my first macro, and I’m looking forward having a lot of fun with it.
Tokina has the 100mm f2.8 macro a well. How does it fare in comparison to tge tamron 90mm macro?
I haven't tested that lens. I've owned a Tokina or two, but have not really reviewed any of the modern ones. I'd like to review their new 24-70mm
+Dustin Abbott There are a lot of upvotes for the tokina too. The third party companies are really gonna take on the market on lenses.
Hi, thank you for the review. May I ask a question? Can this lens be adapted to use with eos M50?
Yes you can!
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you for your swift reply. Does it have any auto focus issue when adapted to eos M?
Great tutorial. Subscribed! Love it. By the way, what would you recommend for a Nikon D5500 lens use for both Portraiture and close up (macro) shoot (photography and videography)? is there a lens that suit both scenario for my camera? also for the macro extension tube, what would you recommend for my Nikon D5500? Thanks in advance.
A macro lens is a nice versatile lens to do those kinds of things.
Thanks for another awesome review! Looks like I will be replacing my good but quirky Canon 100 USM Macro with this lens soon!
Enjoy! It really is a great lens at a great value.
I am tempted to order this lens as my first macro glass. My only fear is that down the road I may be sorry that I didn’t get a longer focal length (ie, 105mm). Thoughts?
I doubt that the difference in focal length is significant enough to change much of anything. It's a beautiful lens, but so is the Canon 100mm f/2.8L IS. Both are roughly equal.
Dustin Abbott Thank you sir, but I shoot a Nikon D7200 crop. So, am comparing to the Nikon 105mm (or lastly: the Sigma 105). Think I’ll likely jump on the Tamron. Great review by the way (and I have subscribed).
The Tamron is a solid choice.
Is it better than tokina 100mm f 2.8?
I wouldn't know; I haven't reviewed the Tokina.
Thanks for the great review. So, for someone who owns the Canon 100 mm 2.8L, is there a reason to move to this new Tamron?
+Anthony Martin I think it is a very strong alternative, but I don't know that it is so compelling that I would recommend selling the 100L.
+Dustin Abbott Thanks. That's the impression I got from your review.
+Anthony Martin I think he meant that if you're looking for a good macro, then you could go with this instead of the first party lens. If you have the first party lens then you're fine. I personally use the Tokina 100 2.8. Optically, it easily contends with the Canon 100 L but no IS and the AF is noticeably slower. In my case selling my Tokina may be a good option because of the lack of IS/VR/OS/VC and slower focus speed. That said, I haven't had issues with focusing speed when I do weddings as I don't use it when a lot of subject movement is expected, the only incentive for me would be the VC.
You get the point.
Very detail and excellent review as always, Mr Abott. Greetings from Jakarta. I own Canon mirrorless M5 and would like to check this lens bokeh, autofocus and sharpness with Canon adapter. Does this combination makes any diffrence in performance? Do you ever heard any issue on this lens with that combination (mirrorless + adapter + Tamron sp 90mm macro)? Thanks...!
I've not experimented with that combo. The only one of those factors that would be affected, however, is autofocus. The adapter has no lens elements, so optical properties are not affected as long as the adapter seats properly.
Would you choose it over Canon 100mm f2.8L IS USM Macro? Or would you stick with your Canon L series macro lenses?
I think either lens is a great choice.
Hi. I'm using a Nikon DX body.I'm confused between 85 & 90. I can only buy one. My main priority is portrait , including children . 90mm is also cheaper than the 85mm. Which one will b better ?
I live the versatility of the 90, although the 85 gives nicer subject isolation.
Hey Dustin. New subscriber here. I have found the oldest version of this lens (Tamron SP AF90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO1:1 Model 272E) for $180 which seems like a steal. I have found the new version (F017) for $360. Both new. Which one would you go for?
The F017 is the more complete lens, so I think I'd go for it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your suggestion! Will go for the F017
Hi again. Sorry for so many questions, but I'm on the verge of buying one of these lenses and wish to be as certain as I can be about which on will serve me better. I would like to buy a macro, as I already said, but wish it to be a usefull tools for portrature as well. Between the Canon 100mm 2.8L IS and the Tamron 90mm 2.8 VC for this goal, what would you say?
I'm sorry to not be more definitive, but I can't really recommend one over the other. They are pretty much equal lenses, with pros and cons on either side. Go for the one that you can get the best deal on.
what should you be the best choice between the 100 canon en the 90 Tamron for stabilization of imagine,i like to know if i could make disappear soma bump when yoused for video withe a dolly ?
Tamron's newest VC systems are really some of the best.
thanks!
Hey, didnt you do a IQ Quality breakdown of this tamron lens? Cant find it! And, I have the version two of this lens and I love it! But do you think its worth it to upgrade to this new version of this lens? Best regards.
I think this review came before I began doing the multi-part approach.
@@DustinAbbottTWI oh okej! Wasnt it this tamron lens that you compared the bokeh with your vintage lenses? I must be remembering it wrong, but which lens was that?
Oh my, I vaguely remember that, but I've reviewed so many lenses that it is hard to remember which exact lens.
Hi Dustin. I've been dabbling in Macro photography with extension tubes (on a 50 mm prime), and I'm seriously eyeing up this lens to be used on a crop sensor, but I´ve heard talk about focus breathing with it. I shoot Canon, and their 100 mm macro L is pretty expensive for me, though I'd consider a second hand one. What do you think? Thanks in advance.
Focus breathing for what? Video? You get 1:1 reproduction with the Tamron, so you aren't getting focus breathing for stills. I still think this is a great lens for the money.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for your reply. I´m quite new to the concept of focus breathing and had read it was a problem in macro photography. I seem to have been misinformed.
@@DustinAbbottTWI My reseach leads me to believe that I can get a new Tamron or a used Canon 100 mm L for around the same money. I think I´ll go for the Tamron.
Hi DustIn , Video Is Very Helpful Thank You For Doing It. My Question I shoot with a nikon d750 an i'm looking for a macro lens.. would you say this would be the best lens to get or would you recommend another lens..
+Arthur Stingo I think this is a great lens and a strong value for money...
+Dustin Abbott Okay Thank You Very Much..
greatday Dustin, is this lens made in Japan? TQ & how about the comparison between Tamron sp 90mm f/2.8 (017) & Samyang 100mm f/2.8, which one better image quality, sharpness & detail? TQ
This lens is made in Japan. Unfortunately I have not reviewed the Samyang, so I can't comment on that.
ic, thanks again
Hi. Looking into buying a macro lens which will double as my portrait lens. Using an APS-C. Would you recommend this over the Canon 100mm L?
Either of those options is pretty long for portraiture on APS-C. You might want to look at the 60mm VC if you just shoot APS-C.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you for your suggestion. I'm planning to go full frame next year. But will look into the 60mm as suggested. Again, thank you
If you are going full frame in the future, either of the Canon or Tamron is a good choice. They are literally incredibly similar.
Hey Dustin, if you compare this Tamron vs Sigma 70mm and Canon 100mm, which would you choose for the best image quality?
They are all close, but I think the Tamron may provide the nicest balance of sharpness, contrast, and bokeh.
Could you tell me which lenses is the most rewarding if I am using canon 600d and mostly do street photography, landscapes, portraits and indoor (restaurants for example)? I can't decide 'cause I am using 18-55 mm lens for very long period and for portraits 50 mm and I need to move up :) Thanks a lot !
A macro lens is a good second lens. It will allow you to do a lot of things you can't right now.
Btw, do you know if the glass has been upgraded? Or is it the same as the old one?
+Henrik Karlsson The optical formula is mostly unchanged other than some minor tweaks and improved coatings. This update is more about handling, build, AF, etc...
Dustin I have a question, what lens would you buy first, I am stuck between the Tamron sp 85&90mm... I watched all your reviews and really love them.. Keep up the good work..
Oh and I want to buy both of the lenses with time, just don't know witch to pick first..
What's your priority in shooting? That should give you your answer. I think the 90 VC is in some ways the more versatile lens; you can use it for pretty much everything.
Thank you both, I bought the 90mm and preordered the Canon 5D mkIV.... Next year I will be getting the 85mm lens.. But the 90 is fantastic.. And Dustin keep up the great work.. A true fan from Germany.
hi dustin
wich of the two lenses would i get for macro on a canon crop body , this tamron sp 90mm vc or the canon 100mm L lens , ist really difficult for me ... hope you can help out good sir
I don't really have a definitive answer to that question. I don't think one lens is better than the other. Just pick the one that you can get the best price on.
well for me its basically , what lens gives better image quality, on dxo its say's the canon has 13pixels on a canon 750d but the tamron they didn't test... ;)
I found the Tamron had very slightly better image quality.
Dustin, I intend to buy a macro lens and I'm considering the Canon 100mm 2.8L IS and the Tamron 90mm 2.8 VC. The price difference is not large and so it's not a concern. Which one would you recomend? Thank you
Either lens is exceptional. If you feel like you would even resell the lens, the Canon will probably hold value a little better. The Tamron has a better warranty, though. No wrong answer here.
waiting for written review, thanks for quick review. Since my 100L has had a visit to service centre for stuck aperture blades, I am going to replace that lens with this new Tamron.
+Chaitanya Shukla Wow - that doesn't sound like a typical problem! I think you will be happy with this lens. The written review is under a moratorium, as is the image gallery until another week.
Jammed aperture blades is a common problem for us, we use our macro lenses during monsoons in Western ghats to photograph frogs and snakes and the humidity manages to jam the aperture blades. Amongst my group of herpers including my 100L, my friend's 100mm(Non L) and other friend's Micro Nikkor 105mm have had this issue. And a trip to service centre to get those jammed blades repaired is not a cheap one. I had mine repaired in last August but now in couple of months time Monsoons will arrive and I am worried of the aperture jamming again so I am planning to sell my 100L and replace it with this new Tamron 90mm VC.
Chaitanya Shukla
I can see what you are talking about. The more robust weather sealing on the Tamron should make it the better lens for you, then.
Dustin Abbott That's what I am hoping for, the better weather sealing would mean more reliable service during monsoons. When I talked with Tamron India, they said this new Macro lens will arrive in mid May giving me enough time to sell my 100mm L and just in time for monsoon's arrival in 1st week of June.
+Chaitanya Shukla Perfect. I do believe the weather sealing is at a higher grade than the 100L. I have rarely been in a situation with mine that stressed it, but you've got a serious issue to contend with. Tamron is making a smart move in setting their products apart with enhanced weather sealing.
Whats your opinion on the Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM lens?
Unfortunately that is one of the few Sigma lenses I've not used.
when will your sample shots with the macro be up on your website? thx
Friday the 18th
Hi Dustin, How is this lens bokeh performance compared to the Canon 100mm f2.8L Macro?
It's probably more similar than different.
Is that tamron usb dock only compatible with sp series only or you can use it with all other tamron lenses
+Surya Pandey Unfortunately it will only work with the new SP lenses, starting with the 35mm/45mm twins
+Dustin Abbott thank you so much. Keep making these videos it helps a lot
would you recommend this over the Nikon 85mm f/1.8g?. I'm planning to buy either of the two for my d610. I mainly shoot portraits but also want to try macro. Is this lens also good for portrait shots?
Macro lenses typically double as very nice portrait lenses, actually.
Jose Emmanuel Yuson im in the same dilema😁
Very nice review as always Dustin! I'm on the market now for a macro lens for my old Canon EOS 550D. I'm on the fence between this Tamron 90mm vs Sigma 105mm. Both have excellent reviews and they are almost similarly priced. I hope you can help me with this decision. Thank you very much!
Hi Neil, unfortunately the Sigam 105 is one of the few Sigmas that I haven't covered.
@@DustinAbbottTWI oh I see. Im excited right bow to explore the world of macrophotography. Thank you very much for replying Dustin. I've subscribed to you because of your excellent work. Hope I can get similar support for my channel also. Thank you! 🙏
Hi Dustin, thanks for your video. Did you try this lens adapted with mc11 on sony body?
No - it was before my time with Sony.
Thank you for the review, still refreshing as usual after three years. One question, does this lens focus by wire?
No - there is a direct coupling on the manual focus ring.
Great review Dustin! Wanted to know what is the closest focus distance that you can be while keeping the aperture at 2.8 before it starts dropping?
+Edoardo Marino (Dodi) Technically the aperture will always be at f/2.8 no matter the focus distance. I've heard that rumor before, but it is baseless. The physical aperture does not change. The amount of light that reaches the sensor at very close focus distance might, but not the aperture.
That's great! Not that I would consider shooting minimum focus at 2.8, but having this lens be with fixed aperture will act as a great traditional prime with a huge focus advantage. Also, have you thought about Tamron's moist and dust sealing construction be the cause of the Canon winning over with a higher light transmission?
Edoardo Marino
I don't know why that should affect light transmission. This is one area, though, that places like DXO frequently knock Tamron lenses.
Am dental photographer ....need advice concerning that field using tamron 90 mm macro lens...thx
And what about using it with canon 200d?
I see no problems with that combination. It should allow you to get good magnification without getting too close to your patients.
Dustin Abbott what is ur opinion about sp af 90 version??? Is there big diffrence between it and the new 1 concerning photographs( macro photographs)?
by the way am taking about tamron sp af 90 mm ....the old version ....so the question is ...is it a good lens and durable 1????
Hi Dustin! I am thinking of trading in my trusty Canon 100 2.8L IS for this Tamron. If I understand your correctly, I will be just as well off as before, including IQ and focus, just gain additional weather sealing, correct? Any reason to still prefer the Canon? Also, do you think we can expect a new Tamron SP 180 macro sometime soon? Greetings from Spain, Dirk
+Canigou Cycling - Girona & Pyrenees Road Cycling I've heard nothing about a new 180mm, but that doesn't mean much. I didn't know this one was coming until the announcement. Image quality on the 90 (F017) is definitely as good if not a bit better. I haven't used the Tamron long term, but during my head to head comparison I saw nothing to indicate that your conclusion is incorrect.
Dustin Abbott Thank you for your quick reply! Honestly I will make this switch mostly for the neatness of my kit, lol
Canon 16-35 4L, 24-105 4L II, 100-400 4.5-5.6L II plus all four new Tamron SP primes. Sweet! It took about 1 1/2 years to move to this kit from the last gen. Canon trinity 2.8L plus the 100 2.8L Macro. So much more creative possibilities by keeping the zooms at f4 and having some fast primes instead! The current Canon 2.8 zooms are just overpriced and it was great to see how much I could still get for my old lenses! Now, this final move of the Macro lens is basically free!
Thanks for opening my eyes and enjoy Arizona ;)
+Canigou Cycling - Girona & Pyrenees Road Cycling I'm glad you are happy with the new kit. I'm having a great time and getting some fabulous pictures.
Oh well, just one day before the Tamron 90 Macro arrive, my Canon 100 2.8L IS Macro fell out of my bag onto the floor. No visible damage at all, but AF & IS no longer function. I am afraid the repair will be quite expensive ... Does anyone have experience with this? Better to repair and then to sell, or is it possible to sell the lens like this?
The Tamron SP 90 2.8 Macro arrived and I absolutely love it! Yes, I can confirm that the VC on this SP lens is louder than on the new Tamron 35, the 45 and the 85. One downside to this lens is the filter size of 62mm. The other three SP primes (35, 45, & 85) have a more common 67mm filter. It really would have been much more practical to have this set of four Tamron SP VC prime lenses with all being the same filter size 67. Additionally, maybe with the bit larger opening, this Tamron 90 Macro would have been as bright, or brighter than, the Canon 100 2.8L IS Macro? I like how you point out this filter size issue on your latest Canon M lens review!
Is this lens sharper than the tamron 85mm sp 1.8? Your recent sigma 70-200 helped me make my decision to purchase it and I love it!
That depends on where you are talking about. I don't think it is sharper with both lenses at F2.8, though it will be sharper at close focus distances.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I was thinking it would make a great portrait/macro lens but realistically the 85mm 1.8 would be a better buy due to having the 70-200 f2.8 anyway. The 85mm and 90mm are the same price here pretty much in the uk. I'd love it tamron dropped a 135mm 1.8 with their great vc!
Hi Dustin!
Have you got the 85mm f1.8 VC already?
It launched almost 2 weeks ago but i cant find sample shots and reviews anywhere, thats weird.
Wish to see you reviewing it soon ;) Thanks
+kaduzera I actually haven't yet - of which I'm surprised. No copies have yet arrived in Canada. B&H shows it in stock, though, so if Canada doesn't get some in a few days I'll have them send me one.
Alright, thank you for the fast reply :)