Thank you for another awesome amazing video. I like the combined format that you did on this one with the general view up front and the detailed Optical analysis at the end I like this
@DustinAbbottTWI As a professional photographer, the time you save me on analyzing equipment is tremendous, and I thank you very much. Merry Merry Christmas
For some reason I don't see a single reviewer, anywhere, comparing these 2 beyond the listed specs. They will compare the Tamron, the Sony, and maybe some random MF macro, but never Tamron, Sigma, and Sony.
For me the question is do I sell my old 90mil sony and get this? Will you do a direct comparison between them? I did not even know this lens was coming... I was hoping for a telephoto superzoom from tamron...
After what felt like the ice-age for mirrorless macros (barring that really light weight L-mount only Panasonic), it's great to see another contender. That utility software is huge to separate it from the rest of the pack (seeing as how we're not getting things like IBIS, 2x Macro, etc..). I was wondering if you had any experience with the mobile app (Android only unfortunately), as there seems to be some features during the use of the lens. Everywhere I see this lens isn't coming until the end of the month. I really wanna give this thing a test drive.
I really like Tamron's signature design and rendering in their newer lenses. They have been integrating macro + improving MFD in even their zoom lenses. If I did not have so many macro lenses I would definitely procure it. In terms of macro AF the real test is always dragonflies etc in flight. I was amazed at being able to do this -handheld-with the new insect AF (sony a75) and the 70-200 f4 semi macro lens which has added lens stability. I wonder how the tamron would perform also in relationship to the much older sony 90mm which performs better with the newer bodies. The newer sensors get so much more information that even some lesser known softwares are able to get so much more detail and micro contrast. The base optics of tamron lenses is very high and now they are working on the quality of the rendering. This seems a very fine lens
Dustin Abbott , would you choose this new Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro over the Sigma Art 105mm f2.8 Macro DG DN lens? I want to get one or the other to add to my kit. Thanks, an excellent and thorough review as always. Cheers, I sent you a PM, thanks my friend.
@@DustinAbbottTWI So just to get this straight : In term of sharpness that would be ; sony macro 90mm < Sigma 105mm DG DN < Tamron 90mm F2.8 Di III ? How the Irix 150mm would compare in there strictly in term of sharpness? Thank you!
I have the earlier F004 model for Canon EF and still love that lens! (though I really need to get around to having the firmware updated so I can use it with my R6m2 rather than just my old 350D). Here's to hoping Canon will let Tamron into the RF world with this someday.
Nice review, Dustin, thanks. Over the years I've owned several Tamron 90mm macros (various camera mounts). All of them are very good and very sharp. Of the specific samples I've owned, I feel that the best over all one is the model F004. I'm using it adapted on my Sony cams and the auto focus isn't fast or great so I generally manual focus it. But it does render very good images. There are situations (outside flowers with some wind movement) where good auto focus is a must and my go to macro for the past couple of years has been the Sigma 105mm macro. I find the Sigma to be a great macro lens. I have a few really good manual focus macro lenses too, and they're wonderful in situations that favor their use. Yeah, I really enjoy macro photography. I'd really be interested in seeing a head to head comparison with this Tamron 90 and the Sigma 105, one day. Again, I enjoyed the video and appreciate your time and work. Thanks
Maybe a stupid question, but why is it so difficult to make a macro lens at f1.8? Or is it just that the companies do not want to compete with their own 85 mm f1.8 segment? I would love to have a ca 90 mm f1.8 lens for both macro and portrait.
It's kind of pointless, as depth of field is already ridiculously thin at macro levels. You have to stop down to F5.6 or F8 to have more than a hair's breadth as it is. It would be much harder to design such a lens, and so you would probably have a compromised macro performance as a result.
My Nikon Z9 has VR in camera. My specific question tho is to the no VR on the lens . Since the camera has VR., is it a non- issue with no VR on this lens .. ?? THANK U ! I appreciate this fantastic video .
I own the Nikkor Z 105 MC, and this lens somehow managed to perk my ears up, even though the Nikkor is excellent. Tamron's doing a lot right lately and perhaps this lens releasing on the same time as the Sony E version hints at what's to come.
Hi Dustin, thank you very much for your great videos !!! Can compare Laowa 90mm f/2.8 2x Ultra Macro APO ("budget lens") with a new Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Di III VXD (not so budget) ? if you would have to choose one of them, which it would be and why ? Thank you very much in advance for your advice (or better, yet, a video).
Now that focus stacking has come to a lot of Sony bodies, I’d like to see how well the auto focus stacking works and if the snappy focus makes the experience better/faster?
That is my question too. Can you show / test this, because I love to see if the lens is supported for that and the effect of focus breathing ... in other words, is it usable for macro focusstacks. (I'm using a Sony A7IV)
I have had the 272E on A200 since 2014, and i still use it on A7IV after going through it on A77II. Note: The macro 2024 having a custom button shines a new era of tamron lenses with such feature. What's next? Aperture rings?
Great review as usual. This is a really nice option for the money. It would be great to see a deep-dive comparison of the Nikon Z mount version of this lens with Nikon’s own MC 105mm f/2.8 VR S lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWII know Fujifilm has opened up to third party lenses, but the availability of third party lenses is one big reason I switched to Sony.
Just as I have a Sony 90mm in the post, you release this video 🫠 but then, I've paid £530 for it brand new? Thanks for the video Dustin, brilliant as always.
@tiorimas Cotswold Cameras, a grey import but I've picked it up from the post office yesterday and it's perfect, well exceeded my expectations. The main aspect that put me off the Sony 90mm was a few reviewers stating the AF was slow, I find this acceptable especially when you use the focus limiter to stop it hunting too far. Might also note I've had an A7C, A7CR, 20-70mm and 20mm f1.8 from this company too and they've all been fine with no issues, apart from the A7CR which came with no option to change the language to English, but this was replaced with another at no cost. Delivery can take a couple of weeks. Hope this helps!
maybe because they are not even trying to do it - expensive process, a lot of work to call it "GM", if they fail, people won't buy it.. people expecatations will be VERY HIGH and demanding, so... yeah, thats why. Edit: I would expect GM lens for instance, to be x1.5 MACRO autofocus AT LEAST. If this would be 1:1 why would I buy it when the price would've been x3 than tamron at the same 1:1? You get it..
Unless youre a Z shooter, it doesn't make sense to buy this over the Sony which doesnt have issues with the Sony in-camera focus stacking feature (that you didnt mention so must have forgotten to test). The Sony also has a very quick to aquire AF then back to manual clutching mechanism, the Tamron doesn't. Thr Tamron is more expensive and obviously not OE so worse resale and possibly (more) compatibility issues than it already has.
Hmmm, not sure what market you're in, but the Tamron certainly isn't more expensive than the Sony in North America ($450 cheaper here in Canada, $400 cheaper in the USA.). The Tamron also has faster AF, though I do like the clutch mechanism for the Sony when it comes to MF.
@@DustinAbbottTWIin Australia the tamron is about $150 to $200 more than the Sony. Would you go the Sony if there wasn’t a price advantage with the Tamron?
@@DustinAbbottTWI That's cool. The two things I read in terms of comments to the new RF 28-70 was "it's a bit expensive" (but as many comparisons to old Canon zooms and currency values today etc) and "good on them, looks really nice!", rather than "I wish Tamron and Sigma were alternatives". The latest Nikkey stats on "digital camera market share" shows Canon at 46.5% of the market, by far the largest share, the number was exactly the same two years ago. Whatever they are doing seems to be working (or rather, either their mirrorless market is smaller than their dslr market still or there weren't significantly many who jumped ship due to Canon's restrictive rf policies)
@@Vantrakter Here in our country, most switch are from Canon to Sony. I don't remember any person here switched from Sony to Canon. If you will check the sales increase in %, Sony increased by 1.7% while Canon is 0. BTW, I am a Canon user from the very start and still using Canon R system today.
I do not like Macro Lenses with autofocus. The new Tamron may be as sharp or maybe sharper then Sony 90mm Macro lens, but not as sharp as Sigma 105mm Macro lens. IMO the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and the Venus Optics Laowa 90mm 2.8 Macro Lens are better options for Macro Photography than any autofocus Lens.
In real world the sony is sharper than the laowa at 1x, and if this tamron is sharper than the sony its a great result. Also you cant do autostacking with laowa in studio conditions, stabiliser helps in handheld situations. Add a raynox to the sony and you get the same 2x, while laowa becomes a true pain to use with more magnification. If you had any real experience in macro photography you would like autofocus lenses just as much as manual ones.
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really want to see a comparison review between this one and SONY 90mm and SIGMA 105mm!
Thank you for another awesome amazing video. I like the combined format that you did on this one with the general view up front and the detailed Optical analysis at the end I like this
Thanks. After a lot of trial and error, that's the style I've gone with for the past year and a half or so.
@DustinAbbottTWI As a professional photographer, the time you save me on analyzing equipment is tremendous, and I thank you very much.
Merry Merry Christmas
how does it compare to the sigma 105 macro?
For some reason I don't see a single reviewer, anywhere, comparing these 2 beyond the listed specs. They will compare the Tamron, the Sony, and maybe some random MF macro, but never Tamron, Sigma, and Sony.
For me the question is do I sell my old 90mil sony and get this? Will you do a direct comparison between them? I did not even know this lens was coming... I was hoping for a telephoto superzoom from tamron...
As always, excellent review. Good job.
We're never disappointed with your videos 👍🏻
Debating between this and the Sony 90mm Macro for both macro and portrait photography, any advice is welcome.
I'm tempted to go with the Tamron if you can get it for cheaper.
Got the Tamron. No regrets!
As ever, a super informative review! Thank you. Roll on the group test with the Tamron 90mm, Sony 90mm and Sigma 105mm macros... ;)
I'm afraid I can't fit that in right now. It seems like EVERYONE is producing new lenses right now.
After what felt like the ice-age for mirrorless macros (barring that really light weight L-mount only Panasonic), it's great to see another contender. That utility software is huge to separate it from the rest of the pack (seeing as how we're not getting things like IBIS, 2x Macro, etc..). I was wondering if you had any experience with the mobile app (Android only unfortunately), as there seems to be some features during the use of the lens.
Everywhere I see this lens isn't coming until the end of the month. I really wanna give this thing a test drive.
I do wish that the app was also available for iOS, as it makes it harder for me to test that functionality.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Hah yes and as someone with Linux for desktop and an iOS phone a dedicated mf/af switch would be grand
Which one do you prefer/recommend: this tamron or the Sigma 105 macro? Is one better than the other?
I'm leaning towards this Tamron. It's amazingly sharp and the AF is terrific.
Very impressive performance, thank you for the detailed review.
I really like Tamron's signature design and rendering in their newer lenses. They have been integrating macro + improving MFD in even their zoom lenses. If I did not have so many macro lenses I would definitely procure it. In terms of macro AF the real test is always dragonflies etc in flight. I was amazed at being able to do this -handheld-with the new insect AF (sony a75) and the 70-200 f4 semi macro lens which has added lens stability. I wonder how the tamron would perform also in relationship to the much older sony 90mm which performs better with the newer bodies. The newer sensors get so much more information that even some lesser known softwares are able to get so much more detail and micro contrast. The base optics of tamron lenses is very high and now they are working on the quality of the rendering. This seems a very fine lens
Some very valid points.
Dustin Abbott , would you choose this new Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro over the Sigma Art 105mm f2.8 Macro DG DN lens? I want to get one or the other to add to my kit. Thanks, an excellent and thorough review as always. Cheers, I sent you a PM, thanks my friend.
The Sigma are sharper.
In my tests, the Tamron is sharper and definitely has much better AF (and features)
@@DustinAbbottTWIit would be wise to follow this man’s tests. If Dustin approves, you buy! You will always be happy.
@@DustinAbbottTWI So just to get this straight : In term of sharpness that would be ; sony macro 90mm < Sigma 105mm DG DN < Tamron 90mm F2.8 Di III ? How the Irix 150mm would compare in there strictly in term of sharpness? Thank you!
I have the earlier F004 model for Canon EF and still love that lens! (though I really need to get around to having the firmware updated so I can use it with my R6m2 rather than just my old 350D). Here's to hoping Canon will let Tamron into the RF world with this someday.
Agreed on the RF strategy.
I watched a different review that tried focus stacking and stated it didn't work due to focus breathing. I want it for focus bracketing and stacking
Nice review, Dustin, thanks. Over the years I've owned several Tamron 90mm macros (various camera mounts). All of them are very good and very sharp. Of the specific samples I've owned, I feel that the best over all one is the model F004. I'm using it adapted on my Sony cams and the auto focus isn't fast or great so I generally manual focus it. But it does render very good images. There are situations (outside flowers with some wind movement) where good auto focus is a must and my go to macro for the past couple of years has been the Sigma 105mm macro. I find the Sigma to be a great macro lens. I have a few really good manual focus macro lenses too, and they're wonderful in situations that favor their use. Yeah, I really enjoy macro photography. I'd really be interested in seeing a head to head comparison with this Tamron 90 and the Sigma 105, one day. Again, I enjoyed the video and appreciate your time and work. Thanks
I can't make any promises, but I'm interested in that comparison some myself.
Excelent as always! Thank you for the review.
Glad you enjoyed it.
As always, thank you for the great review. I was looking forward to it.
My pleasure!
My pleasure!
A comparison between this one and the Sony would be cool.
Especially image quality on Full Frame and APS-C and AF (including the new insect AF)
That's true, but the problem is that I don't have the Sony and everyone is releasing new lenses right now, so I'm staying extremely busy!
As a side, what is that tabletop tripod you use? I need something of the sort.
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
Maybe a stupid question, but why is it so difficult to make a macro lens at f1.8?
Or is it just that the companies do not want to compete with their own 85 mm f1.8 segment?
I would love to have a ca 90 mm f1.8 lens for both macro and portrait.
It's kind of pointless, as depth of field is already ridiculously thin at macro levels. You have to stop down to F5.6 or F8 to have more than a hair's breadth as it is. It would be much harder to design such a lens, and so you would probably have a compromised macro performance as a result.
Great review Dustin , Tamron 90mm f2.5 was my first close focus in 1979 only 1:2 half life size 'tho they introduced an SP 2x which made an 180 mm .
My Nikon Z9 has VR in camera. My specific question tho is to the no VR on the lens . Since the camera has VR., is it a non- issue with no VR on this lens .. ??
THANK U !
I appreciate this fantastic video .
I think you should be good. I have found that on Sony the stabilization is fine, and I actually like Nikon's VR better.
I own the Nikkor Z 105 MC, and this lens somehow managed to perk my ears up, even though the Nikkor is excellent.
Tamron's doing a lot right lately and perhaps this lens releasing on the same time as the Sony E version hints at what's to come.
Hello! Are these findings also applicable to the Z Mount version? Considering this vs the Laowa with the 2X magnification.
I haven't tested the Z mount version, but, in my experience with Tamron lenses on Z mount thus far, I tend to prefer the Z-mount versions.
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Hi Dustin, thank you very much for your great videos !!!
Can compare Laowa 90mm f/2.8 2x Ultra Macro APO ("budget lens") with a new Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Di III VXD (not so budget) ?
if you would have to choose one of them, which it would be and why ?
Thank you very much in advance for your advice (or better, yet, a video).
I currently own both these lenses, but the problem is finding the time to do a comparison video. My schedule is ridiculous with covering 5 platforms.
Great review, thank you. Do you think the auto focus detect would capture a flying insect, assuming the subject was close enough?
You won't get 100% hit rate, but I'm not aware of a faster focusing macro lens than this one.
Thank you Dustin!
My pleasure!
Now that focus stacking has come to a lot of Sony bodies, I’d like to see how well the auto focus stacking works and if the snappy focus makes the experience better/faster?
I haven't had a chance to try the auto focus stacking yet, so I can't comment on that.
That is my question too. Can you show / test this, because I love to see if the lens is supported for that and the effect of focus breathing ... in other words, is it usable for macro focusstacks. (I'm using a Sony A7IV)
interesting lens, regardless of price would you recommend this or the sony 90mm? how important it it having image stabilization in the lens for macro?
The image stabilizer in the Sony 90mm only gives half a stop at Macro 1:1 !
I personally would go for this lens right now. It has the best AF, most features, and is extremely sharp.
I'd love to see a comparison of the sony 90, sigma 105 and the new tamron 90 please.
Unfortunately things are just too busy to make that happen.
I have had the 272E on A200 since 2014, and i still use it on A7IV after going through it on A77II. Note: The macro 2024 having a custom button shines a new era of tamron lenses with such feature. What's next? Aperture rings?
Aperture rings would be nice.
Great review as usual. This is a really nice option for the money. It would be great to see a deep-dive comparison of the Nikon Z mount version of this lens with Nikon’s own MC 105mm f/2.8 VR S lens.
I wouldn't mind testing this on Z (and potentially owning it there).
Your Amazon Canada and Camera Canada links are switched.
Are you sure? I just tested them and they weren't for me.
Sorry about that. It was confusing because of how they lined up in my RUclips app on my iPad.
if you compare this to Sigma 105mm f/2.8 A DG DN Macro? what you think?
The Tamron has faster AF and is slightly sharper. Both a very good lenses.
I had one of their Sony A-mount macro lenses. It was one of my favorites.
I've owned one of their macros before as well and really liked it.
What a fantastic lens! I really hope Tamron will consider making an X-Mount version for Fujifilm.
Hmmm, it would work, and they have brought at least one of their full frame lenses to X-mount already.
@@DustinAbbottTWII know Fujifilm has opened up to third party lenses, but the availability of third party lenses is one big reason I switched to Sony.
A german youtuber compared the image quality to that of the Sigma 105, and the Tamron looked quite a bit softer, at f/2.8.
hmmm, not in the copies that I tested.
Thanks for the great review!
Glad it was helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Just as I have a Sony 90mm in the post, you release this video 🫠 but then, I've paid £530 for it brand new?
Thanks for the video Dustin, brilliant as always.
The Sony 90mm Macro are very close in image quality to the new Tamron.
That's a very good price, so I would just enjoy what you have!
Where did you get it for such a nice price?
@tiorimas Cotswold Cameras, a grey import but I've picked it up from the post office yesterday and it's perfect, well exceeded my expectations. The main aspect that put me off the Sony 90mm was a few reviewers stating the AF was slow, I find this acceptable especially when you use the focus limiter to stop it hunting too far.
Might also note I've had an A7C, A7CR, 20-70mm and 20mm f1.8 from this company too and they've all been fine with no issues, apart from the A7CR which came with no option to change the language to English, but this was replaced with another at no cost. Delivery can take a couple of weeks. Hope this helps!
Just wondering how long you had to practice pronouncing "Z" as Zee instead of Zed
I'm actually American first (born in California) and moved to Canada in 97, so Zee is my natural pronunciation.
I’m curious though. Why there is no GM macro lens. Haha
That's a solid question, actually. And I don't have the answer.
maybe because they are not even trying to do it - expensive process, a lot of work to call it "GM", if they fail, people won't buy it.. people expecatations will be VERY HIGH and demanding, so... yeah, thats why. Edit: I would expect GM lens for instance, to be x1.5 MACRO autofocus AT LEAST. If this would be 1:1 why would I buy it when the price would've been x3 than tamron at the same 1:1? You get it..
@@pentagramyt417 Fair critique. I would definitely like to see a GM macro with greater than 1:1 macro.
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Great review, as always! More, and more, and more reasons to change to Sony from Canon. Thanks, Canon!
Unless youre a Z shooter, it doesn't make sense to buy this over the Sony which doesnt have issues with the Sony in-camera focus stacking feature (that you didnt mention so must have forgotten to test).
The Sony also has a very quick to aquire AF then back to manual clutching mechanism, the Tamron doesn't.
Thr Tamron is more expensive and obviously not OE so worse resale and possibly (more) compatibility issues than it already has.
Hmmm, not sure what market you're in, but the Tamron certainly isn't more expensive than the Sony in North America ($450 cheaper here in Canada, $400 cheaper in the USA.). The Tamron also has faster AF, though I do like the clutch mechanism for the Sony when it comes to MF.
@@DustinAbbottTWIin Australia the tamron is about $150 to $200 more than the Sony. Would you go the Sony if there wasn’t a price advantage with the Tamron?
@@jaradooo Probably not, but in large part because of the resale value for the Sony.
No AF/MF switch is a real shame for the macro lens.
How's for portraits? Bokeh on picture you showed isn't that great..
It seems fine to me.
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Hello Canon? 😂
Most Canon users I see represented on forums seem quite content with Canon's lens lineup (and policy).
@@Vantrakter most canon users here already switched to Sony and Nikon. I'm the one who left behind and planning to switch soon.
Hmmm, that's not the feedback I get around here, @Vantrakter
@@DustinAbbottTWI That's cool. The two things I read in terms of comments to the new RF 28-70 was "it's a bit expensive" (but as many comparisons to old Canon zooms and currency values today etc) and "good on them, looks really nice!", rather than "I wish Tamron and Sigma were alternatives". The latest Nikkey stats on "digital camera market share" shows Canon at 46.5% of the market, by far the largest share, the number was exactly the same two years ago. Whatever they are doing seems to be working (or rather, either their mirrorless market is smaller than their dslr market still or there weren't significantly many who jumped ship due to Canon's restrictive rf policies)
@@Vantrakter Here in our country, most switch are from Canon to Sony. I don't remember any person here switched from Sony to Canon. If you will check the sales increase in %, Sony increased by 1.7% while Canon is 0.
BTW, I am a Canon user from the very start and still using Canon R system today.
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I do not like Macro Lenses with autofocus. The new Tamron may be as sharp or maybe sharper then Sony 90mm Macro lens, but not as sharp as Sigma 105mm Macro lens. IMO the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and the Venus Optics Laowa 90mm 2.8 Macro Lens are better options for Macro Photography than any autofocus Lens.
The Tamron is sharper than the Sigma in my tests.
In real world the sony is sharper than the laowa at 1x, and if this tamron is sharper than the sony its a great result. Also you cant do autostacking with laowa in studio conditions, stabiliser helps in handheld situations. Add a raynox to the sony and you get the same 2x, while laowa becomes a true pain to use with more magnification. If you had any real experience in macro photography you would like autofocus lenses just as much as manual ones.
@@kaimelis AF for Macro Photography is stupid ! I have done Macro Photography for 45 years NOOB !!!