The funny thing is because the extra damage doesn't matter in a no-hit, this isn't any more difficult. In fact, it's easier since you can abuse the glitch as much as you want.
Yep LOL. There actually are 2 harder attacks that I saw though in the enraged version: a way faster version of the one where the head and arms close in one you, and a much faster version of the second attack in the fight where you have to shoot the spamton heads to get through. Neither of them are in this video however because I end the fight too quickly.
The faces attacks should have more bullets and hp, the window attack extremely fast, telephone arm attack is just spam, and just allot of spam and speed and hp
@@MysticSlime I think I saw the harder version of the shooting the heads to get through attack. He does it after his special attack, so I dont think thats new
I know Spamton's "It's for me?" attack is meant to be funny, but I can't help but remember Reaper Bird's "attack" where a lot of butterflies devoured the everyman's face.
I was never able to tell if his attack was backfiring, or just doing it to fuck with you since it doesn’t actually damage him or anything. It’s a little creepy in a way.
Also wanted to make a quick comment on what "enraged" is: Basically by abusing the big shot glitch, Spamton will get angry and deal increased damage ranging from 54 to around 100, at least that I noticed in my playthroughs. He also seems to have at least two faster attack patterns that weren't there before that I missed in this video because I killed him too quick. These attacks also could be part of the patch in general but I'm leaning more towards the side of them being enraged exclusives.
The question here is whether or not it can be classed as glitch now. If the patch added a variable to track it rather than trying to remove it, that means it's considered intentional regardless of whether or not it originally was supposed to be.
I don't know if this is due to it being Snowgrave or not but Spamton also starts with his lvl 3 Heart Attack (fires three rounds of projectiles per extention) and he gets a lvl 4 that makes the projectiles fire in different direction.
Yeah, I remember someone commented in one of the prior videos that the numbers might've been blue because we were using Noelle as a weapon just like we were Kris, but turns out nope. I noticed that right away too LOL
just imagine it hasn't been a week since you added a new part to your game and people are already abusing bugs, toby might be too tired to fix it but still found a way to adress it. What a clever bastard
Fixing would probably be easier. This feels like the "Skyrim" principle in action. "If it doesn't ruin people's enjoyment, don't fix it", so instead he put a small nod in saying "Yes, I know"
I have no idea if this is true or not, but if you remember when kris asked sans for his brother and he responded it might take somewhere between 2 years and one day.... it might actually be a hint that it will be "a day" in-game, and 2 years IRL till next chapter gets released.
*Fun fact:* In the final hits (4:42), Pre-patch was originally Kris' blue color on the damage text. Now in this patch, Toby have fixed it to Noelle's color.
Yep. Clearly, everyone can hear our "voice". My theory is we're able to control everyone, not just Kris. That explains why battles happen in _party_ (we "control" these other characters during battle). There's also numerous times when other characters hear us thinking we're Kris: - In Chapter 1, when we follow Susie, she thinks she hears Kris say something when _we_ give her an order. She even calls them out: "Kris? Did ya say something?". - There's this battle, where Spamton hears us. - And of course, in Snowgrave, Noelle clearly hints that Kris' voice isn't their _usual_ voice. I also think we're not the only one with this power. Spamton and Jevil were both contacted by someone else's "voice". See how Flowey has the same power as us in Undertale ? I think Toby Fox did the same thing in Deltarune, except it's not about saving/loading, but about controlling characters. If I'm right, then I _love_ the direction Deltarune takes!
@@Dante02d12 deltarunes point of view is kind of trippy in that im pretty sure this is a game where you control the hero and villain here, in this particular instance i think kris' subconscious is actually the one whispering, not kris themselves. also in the snowgrave route i've noticed enemies which typically should take on villain identities like spamton almost feel more like they're the heroes in the fight against you
3:25 I feel like during this part until the end of his life, he is referencing his life after 1997 (his downfall) and Kris. Some phrases like “NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP” and “GO AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]” say loads of stuff between them both. Kris’ freinds not coming (except Noelle) whilst the person on the phone not coming bac to Spamton
yeah he does this a whole lot. heck, even in his first introductory dialogue: _"LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE [[All Alone On A Late Night?]] ALL YOUR FRIENDS, [[Abandoned you for the slime]] YOU ARE? SALES, GONE DOWN THE [[Drain]] [[Drain]]?? LIVING IN A GODDAMN GARBAGE CAN???"_ in fact you can look back at almost _all_ his dialogue and find at least a little bit of projecting, or commenting on his past. it's surprising just how much backstory he reveals in his first like.. 20 lines. i really recommend reading over it all again! (you can find his dialogue on the deltarune wiki)
I did both forms of this fight before knowing about this. But I had missed stuff so in a redo I at least got to use it for free on the pacifist version, just before this patch.
I wish instead of making Spamton's attacks stronger, he added the annoying dog in the battle. He would just casually come in and have the most outrageous bullet patterns lol
I always love when game devs embrace a fun glitch instead of getting rid of in and they make it an official thing. Toby went a step further and make it official, AND ALSO added to it additional functions with the boss.
0:24 I’m sorry but that honk is literally everything. I’m just imagining him swearing but his glitches are censoring it. “Mother [BEEP BEEP!] You God[BEEP!] son of a [BEEP!]
This is one of the most CHAD moves I've seen from a modern game developer. Reminds me of the old days.... "oh, the players found a glitch..... *_IT IS NOW A FEATURE_* "
So you're a [Big Shot] now [little sponge]? [Tough luck], [you're just a dirty hacker, aren't you]?! Spamtom G. Spamtom will-- Wait this isn't how it's supposed to finish. You're supposed to [Get Hit] and [Suffer critical damage]!
Y'know know, I just realized. Kris before Spamtom's does the "blue Light special" deals 261 damage to Spamton, but afterwards he only does about 10, meaning his damage was divided by approximately 26.1 . With this, we can see how Noelle even with the defense increase does about 695 damage per hit, which when multiplied by 26.1 means that in a normal Spamton Neo fight she would deal ~18k damage per hit, with her doing 3 attacks at once that's 54k damage at once, which really *really* puts into perspective the Sheer gap that can appear between someone with LV and someone without when before Kris normal attack dealt about like 50-100 more damage (can't remember) compared to Noelle's iceshock, and now she deals about 54k more damage than you per hit
yeah, noelle’s iceshock and snowgrave both completely ignore opponent defenses, so she doesn’t have ridiculous magic stat here. the iceshock formula is 30(magic-10)+90+randnum(0,10) so her magic stat when she defeats spamton neo is around 30.
I wish they made either of the spamton fights even remotely as hard as jevil. I completed the snowgrave spamton neo fight on second try! It’s way to easy!
Can it be considered a glitch at this point? There's an internal tracker for using it, which enables Spamton NEO's enraged mode. The trigger is called "funnycheat" I believe.
@@derekstryder2281 When I did it, it was classified as a glitch because I beat the boss legit before the patch. But now it's a whole feature to use against him to make it easier or harder depending on skill level.
I tried doing that, but no, his hp is capped at 6% and you can't drop it below. Sad, would be nice to be another ending than "noelle pls help spambot is being rude
Haha thanks, this was actually the strategy I used to try and no-hit him originally but there were a ton of videos already out by the time I was on my 50th attempt or so and just gave up.
Have you seen what happens in this chapter when you inspect the ShadowCrystal? I saw it on Merg's video, but it basically says "for a brief moment you saw the computer lab(I think looking through the crystal), but it must have been your imagination." I'm wondering if it is related to Kris's red eye
Or the shadow crystals just reflect the truth of the dark world and shows that its just based on the computer lab or the closet. Maybe thats why spamton and jevil went crazy, cuz it reflects the truth.
Kris: Abuses a glitch to insta-win basically Spamton: *(ANGRY CAR LIKE NOISES BEEP BEEP)* *listen here you little sh-* Edit: How in the [!#&%] did this get so many [Big shot(s)] like I'm not even [Killing] anyway [Press Alt F4 For] HELP!
“LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE [[$!$!]], YOU THINK YOU CAN USE THE [[Pipis]] TO MAKE YOUR OWN [[Hyperlink Blocked]] TO USE THAT MANY [[Big Shot(s)]] AND NOT [[Get Away]] WITH IT!?”
player:uses big shot spam spamton:[ANGRY CAR NOISES BEEP BEEP BEEP] ok i love a big shot but uh THAT IS SO MANY THAT IS SUCH [!?!?!?!?!?!?!] YOUR GONNA [!?!?!?!] ME LIKE [!?!?!?!?!] DONT YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING THAT IS JUST SPAM YOU GOTTA DIE NOW
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 hes more difficult than the rest of the game (outside of jevil) but yeah he only took me 3 atts on normal and 4 with enraged snowgrave
Spamton’s self-projecting lines in this route are just heartbreaking. He’s literally saying his story, he lost all hopes and he’s telling Kris (or us) to do so as well. :(
there's almost no changes so this is relatively just the same fight but easier since you can abuse a bug. Still, nice no-hit. I've done a no-hit of the this fight as well and yes you can skip half of his attacks simply by doing major damage often. Including his ultimate if done fast enough. The phone hands are fast normally anyway. When I did my no-hit it was before this patch but I never abused the exploit as it is rather cheesy.
4:25 fun little fact: it says "YOU whispered Noelle's name", implying that Kris didn't (the game does not refer to Kris as you when you call out others) actually whisper Noelle's name, but it was the one controlling him (im 80% sure its not Gaster.)
Sounds like he's talking about himself when he mentions how pathetic it is for you to call out your friends names at the bottom of a dumpster. Kind of sad
Exploiters: *finds an infinite big shot glitch* Toby: here's a gamer move *adds a funny easter egg that makes Spamton NEO harder* Exploiters: no hit lol Toby Fox: 0:24
I realized that calling for Noelle is the only time Kris whispered a name. It seems Kris actually hesitated to use the product of "the player's" doing and put her to last for Noelle's sake, because you know, they're childhood friends.
Seeing as the next dark world will most likely be at Kris's house I really hope toriel gets in and teaches him some dreemur fire magic. I mean he's technically a dreemur too.
She's gonna be a party member that specializes in fire, Susie and her will bond, with Toriel mentioning that Ralsei looks familiar, and Undyne will be an antagonist or anti-hero for a good portion of the chapter. Kris will either be a player character, or an Antagonist as well. That or both at the same time. Noelle may sneak out to the Dreemur household to investigate why the two aren't at school (assuming a school day) or instead go to Kris's house to get help from him with Susie. If not, then she won't be seen until the end of the chapter, either working on her project with Berdly, at church with her dad, or only her dad will be at church (assuming Snowgrave). Berdly will likely be working at the library after the chapter, with Noelle, or you will find his comatose form in the hospital room adjacent to Rudolph's room. In any case, it's gonna be an amazing show with Drama, Romance, and Bloodshed!
spamton neo in pacifist: im the secret boss you want to fight me? me:nope i do it later spamton neo in snowgrave:boom! before you want to seal the fountain 1 on 1 me first me:but i only have cd bagel(is that the right name for the item?) spamton neo:who cares
I can’t tell if Toby Fox added this because he wanted to make it seem like this was a part of the plan all along, or as a fun reward to everyone who knew about it, or if genuinely it was easier to just work around it rather than figure out what was causing the problem and try to fix it. I think the last option is the funniest to me. Just imagining a -programmer- dog sitting at the computer like “you know what? It’s a feature now. I’m going to bed.”
Basically, there was an unintentional glitch that allowed you to spam [BIG SHOT], so Toby Fox patched in "enraged" mode which activates when using this glitch. Enraged mode makes Spamton NEO deal more damage, though we don't see this here since this is a no-hit run.
@@EP1CxEMAN08 i think adding the animation and the increasing damage is whay faster than fixing the whole shooting system so thats why he decide to do this raged mode instead which i actually find more enterteaning than just patch the glitch.
It wasn't on purpose. But Toby Fox discovered this glitch and instead of removing it. He made Spamton go angry if you use it and Spamton does almost double the damage. Thats why Toby Fox is such a good dev, unlike most others who would just fix the glitch
Believe it or not, around 4 months back I did this myself except I DIDNT do the glitch. Even if it was my worst preforming video of the month, it’s one of my favorites because I’m just so proud of myself for pulling it off. I did, however, do something different where I grazed the heart attack bullets rather than shooting the heart. Apparently after watching this video that was a lesser thing to do since I still had to do the wreck-spew final attack if I recall correctly.
Is difficulty everything in a game? I like Spamton much more than Jevil as a character, the fight is amazing in terms of visual design too, and so I'd say it's Jevil who doesn't hold a candle to Spamton. Just my opinion though, feel free to have your own.
Your opinion is valid, but my statement had nothing to do with the difficulty. Jevil looks harder to me, yes and i've not played chapter 2 personally. But really this does just seem like a Jevil Ripoff character in a way. His backstory is different, but the catalyst to his insanity is the same. Overall to me, Jevil just seems more...fun. Even if getting to him was a pain in the ass. Starting to think the remaining 3 chapters may potentially have similar bosses who went insane because of the "mysterious person"
I love how Toby did the thing ro this glitch. If new people used this glitch, then they would die quickly. But people who have experienced Spamton neo and don't wanna experience again they put up a engraged form so you can speed through the fight
He does way more damage (it varies but can go from double or higher I think) and I think he may have new attacks which are faster, although that could've been just a general update to him in this patch.
![Deltarune: Triple Jevil No Hit Complete [TAS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/psdrTa82mss/mqdefault.jpg)
The funny thing is because the extra damage doesn't matter in a no-hit, this isn't any more difficult.
In fact, it's easier since you can abuse the glitch as much as you want.
my thoughts exactly
Yep LOL. There actually are 2 harder attacks that I saw though in the enraged version: a way faster version of the one where the head and arms close in one you, and a much faster version of the second attack in the fight where you have to shoot the spamton heads to get through. Neither of them are in this video however because I end the fight too quickly.
@@MysticSlime everything should have been faster as to make the exploit fight harder to do
The faces attacks should have more bullets and hp, the window attack extremely fast, telephone arm attack is just spam, and just allot of spam and speed and hp
@@MysticSlime I think I saw the harder version of the shooting the heads to get through attack. He does it after his special attack, so I dont think thats new
When the phrase "It's not a bug, it's a feature" is taken seriously
Yes
Like punching a Sonic 3D Blast Cartridge let's you go To Select screen and it says "You have Unlocked the secret Level Select screen"
Though here it is more like..... "It WAS a bug, but NOW it is a feature."
Just like Hoik in Terraria
Actual good comparison
Toby: *updates the game to make it harder*
No Hit Runners: *Uploads at a [Terrifying] speed*
This is [Terrifying] how [accurasy] this is
They have proven [Everyone] that they're worthy of the [Hyperlink Blocked]
sometimes i wonder how the [FRE3 KROM3R] they can [Hyperlink Blocked]
With the power of [Free shipping when you call today!] , one who's determined enough can [Change the course of time..] .
Community: Hey, Toby, theres is a bug!
Toby: It's not a bug. _It's a secret code to activate hardmode._
Spamton NEO: *angry train noises*
Finally, hard mode!
protogen
when an error becomes a feature
@@TheMoonCultist like Terraria Hoik
I know Spamton's "It's for me?" attack is meant to be funny, but I can't help but remember Reaper Bird's "attack" where a lot of butterflies devoured the everyman's face.
It's not meant to be funny
@@Tycini1 it absolutely is
@@Tycini1 How is it not meant to be funny when one of his attacks backfires on him and attacks him after he said a funny line
I was never able to tell if his attack was backfiring, or just doing it to fuck with you since it doesn’t actually damage him or anything. It’s a little creepy in a way.
@@MisterJohnDoe Pretty sure its meant to be just a funny turn and not mess with you or anything but I'm pretty sure he heals a little from that
Also wanted to make a quick comment on what "enraged" is:
Basically by abusing the big shot glitch, Spamton will get angry and deal increased damage ranging from 54 to around 100, at least that I noticed in my playthroughs. He also seems to have at least two faster attack patterns that weren't there before that I missed in this video because I killed him too quick. These attacks also could be part of the patch in general but I'm leaning more towards the side of them being enraged exclusives.
The question here is whether or not it can be classed as glitch now. If the patch added a variable to track it rather than trying to remove it, that means it's considered intentional regardless of whether or not it originally was supposed to be.
I bet that in the Evil route Noelle will kill Toriel, Sans and Undyne plus two more people
I don't know if this is due to it being Snowgrave or not but Spamton also starts with his lvl 3 Heart Attack (fires three rounds of projectiles per extention) and he gets a lvl 4 that makes the projectiles fire in different direction.
@@derekstryder2281 pretty sure it wasn't intentional, but toby decided to nerf it instead of outright removing it
@@Wal363
Do you still get the Dark Crystal from Spamton in the Evil route?
4:42
Just noticed that Toby also fixed the damage numbers colors when Noelle attacks at the end.
Before, they were blue (Like if Kris did the attack)
Aw nuts it WAS an oversight
Yeah, I remember someone commented in one of the prior videos that the numbers might've been blue because we were using Noelle as a weapon just like we were Kris, but turns out nope. I noticed that right away too LOL
Are you sure it was an accident? I feel like Toby likes to troll us super hard. So be might have deliberately made that "mistake", before fixing it
i thought it was blue because it was ice damage
@@KittyKatty999 i doubt it, if it gets patched then its prob not intentional, like with the cellphone crash with the first chapter
At least Noelle's attack helped Spamton cool off. He was already all hot and bothered from that glitch.
He's [COOL SHOT] now
@@FriskTheFallenHuman He was the [HOT SHOT] now the [COOL SHOT]. What a n *ice* pun
@@suckerman7gm n ice pun
She even made him some ice cream! How kind!
@@suckerman7gm HES THE COOL SHOT AND THE [BIG SHOT!]
Spamton gets angry when you "spam" him.
comedy.
wow spamton sure is a hypocrite
He One Who spam not yuo
@@alexanderdahms4001 yep.
yeah he gets made just because we spamed a ton of big shots to cut him down while we puppet our deer friend noelle
...
What? Someone had to do it
Yeah when you spam him with "[[BIG SHOTS]]"
just imagine it hasn't been a week since you added a new part to your game and people are already abusing bugs, toby might be too tired to fix it but still found a way to adress it. What a clever bastard
Honestly I think doing that you could only press z or enter and not both at the same time is easier than coding new things
@@mariotheundying toby is toby make unique content
Fixing would probably be easier. This feels like the "Skyrim" principle in action. "If it doesn't ruin people's enjoyment, don't fix it", so instead he put a small nod in saying "Yes, I know"
@@tepafray but new features make game more interesting
@@ConeredButter That's whar he said
692, 699 and 693 of damage
That gives a total of 2084 damage
It's confirmed that chapter 3 will release in 2084 now
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Along with Silksong
@@cooldoggo58 That is very optimistic
And fixed versions of Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76, Sonic 06 and a generally a version of GTA 6 at all.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but if you remember when kris asked sans for his brother and he responded it might take somewhere between 2 years and one day.... it might actually be a hint that it will be "a day" in-game, and 2 years IRL till next chapter gets released.
*Fun fact:* In the final hits (4:42), Pre-patch was originally Kris' blue color on the damage text. Now in this patch, Toby have fixed it to Noelle's color.
I was thinking it was elemental damage.
@@Daniel328DT Nope, the colors are for the characters. (I thought too though ngl)
It's interesting how Spamton can hear YOU whispering Noelle's name.
Yep. Clearly, everyone can hear our "voice". My theory is we're able to control everyone, not just Kris. That explains why battles happen in _party_ (we "control" these other characters during battle). There's also numerous times when other characters hear us thinking we're Kris:
- In Chapter 1, when we follow Susie, she thinks she hears Kris say something when _we_ give her an order. She even calls them out: "Kris? Did ya say something?".
- There's this battle, where Spamton hears us.
- And of course, in Snowgrave, Noelle clearly hints that Kris' voice isn't their _usual_ voice.
I also think we're not the only one with this power. Spamton and Jevil were both contacted by someone else's "voice". See how Flowey has the same power as us in Undertale ? I think Toby Fox did the same thing in Deltarune, except it's not about saving/loading, but about controlling characters. If I'm right, then I _love_ the direction Deltarune takes!
@@Dante02d12 kris tells the party what to do lol
@@arktdt9793 And often times the characters mix up Kris's voice with ours.
@@Dante02d12 fora a parte de criação de personagem, onde podemos escolher uma característica para ele, e lá tem a "voz" como escolha
@@Dante02d12 deltarunes point of view is kind of trippy in that im pretty sure this is a game where you control the hero and villain here, in this particular instance i think kris' subconscious is actually the one whispering, not kris themselves. also in the snowgrave route i've noticed enemies which typically should take on villain identities like spamton almost feel more like they're the heroes in the fight against you
You can't get punished using an exploit if you're never hit.
3:25 I feel like during this part until the end of his life, he is referencing his life after 1997 (his downfall) and Kris. Some phrases like “NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP” and “GO AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]” say loads of stuff between them both. Kris’ freinds not coming (except Noelle) whilst the person on the phone not coming bac to Spamton
basically almost all his lines starting from 3:25 are refering to Spamton and Kris
I'd say at least 40% of Spamton's lines *in general* refer to himself, and Kris at the same time
yeah he does this a whole lot. heck, even in his first introductory dialogue:
_"LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE [[All Alone On A Late Night?]] ALL YOUR FRIENDS, [[Abandoned you for the slime]] YOU ARE? SALES, GONE DOWN THE [[Drain]] [[Drain]]?? LIVING IN A GODDAMN GARBAGE CAN???"_
in fact you can look back at almost _all_ his dialogue and find at least a little bit of projecting, or commenting on his past. it's surprising just how much backstory he reveals in his first like.. 20 lines. i really recommend reading over it all again! (you can find his dialogue on the deltarune wiki)
Back*
Yes I’m an annoying piece of shit B)
I did both forms of this fight before knowing about this. But I had missed stuff so in a redo I at least got to use it for free on the pacifist version, just before this patch.
You can still use it for free. It didn't get patched out. Spamton just gets peeved at you in the new patch. That's it.
@@kennyholmes5196 it isn't free then, you start taking extra damage if you do the glitch
I wish instead of making Spamton's attacks stronger, he added the annoying dog in the battle. He would just casually come in and have the most outrageous bullet patterns lol
That's would actually be something that toby would do lmao
@@alif-1223 i don't really think so, but go with it I guess
Not Bullet Patterns. The Annoying Dog would just run you over.
And it leaves u at 1 hp (so if ur at full hp it does 159 dmg)
Actually that would be a joke in a genocidal route
We don't do that here
I literally knew that this state was going to be called "Enraged Spamton Neo"
I always love when game devs embrace a fun glitch instead of getting rid of in and they make it an official thing.
Toby went a step further and make it official, AND ALSO added to it additional functions with the boss.
“DON’T YOU KNOW NEO IS FAMOUS FOR ITS HIGH DEFENSE?”
Mettaton:
God, I’m literally paused on him saying that.
Mettaton: Allow me to introduce myself.
The 1 shot free exp man.@@epicpro5575
Oh my god he patched the color of noelles damage numbers at the end.
They used to be blue/kris coloured, but now they are properly yellow.
"DIDNT YOU KNOW NEO IS FAMOUS FOR ITS HIGH DEFENSE?!" ironic considering Mettaton NEO went down to one hit in the original undertale
Well, -40000 defense, very high indeed
Maybe you just hit him really, really, *REALLY* hard.
To be fair, it's hard to argue with your enemy doing 6-digit damage
@@sauce4279 true
I believe that's the joke
0:24 I’m sorry but that honk is literally everything. I’m just imagining him swearing but his glitches are censoring it.
“Mother [BEEP BEEP!] You God[BEEP!] son of a [BEEP!]
True I would do the spam just to hear that honk
4:44 seeing how we(not kris) manipulate her is heartbreaking. It shows how manipulateable she is
dont you you mean 4:44
Ah yes sorry
Not to be that guy but the best word for this would probably be "malleable".
Tecnicaly she is not soo manipulateable since kris is strugling to be away from us (the soul)
"Manipulable"
This is one of the most CHAD moves I've seen from a modern game developer. Reminds me of the old days....
"oh, the players found a glitch..... *_IT IS NOW A FEATURE_* "
When the phrase “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature” is taken literally.
I love Toby’s creativity so much.
Most games would just patch the bug but he embraces it and makes it a harder version of the fight. Honestly genius.
Kris: *desperately crying out for their friends*
The Player: "I got you fam" *whispers to Noelle to help*
So you're a [Big Shot] now [little sponge]?
[Tough luck], [you're just a dirty hacker, aren't you]?! Spamtom G. Spamtom will--
Wait this isn't how it's supposed to finish.
You're supposed to [Get Hit] and [Suffer critical damage]!
He is a [Bigger shot] now
Hey, they fixed the text color for Noelle freezing Spamton Neo to death
But why to yellow from blue since her freeze is blue damage for other enemies
Or is it us actually killing him
@@Zwizard247 no, all of Noelle's attacks are Yellow text.
"WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO? TURN ME INTO A POPSICLE?"
"EHHHH AHH E OOO-"
"SAY IS IT COLD IN HERE OR IS IT JUST ME?"
*Ice Shock Attack Sound*
Y'know know, I just realized. Kris before Spamtom's does the "blue Light special" deals 261 damage to Spamton, but afterwards he only does about 10, meaning his damage was divided by approximately 26.1 . With this, we can see how Noelle even with the defense increase does about 695 damage per hit, which when multiplied by 26.1 means that in a normal Spamton Neo fight she would deal ~18k damage per hit, with her doing 3 attacks at once that's 54k damage at once, which really *really* puts into perspective the Sheer gap that can appear between someone with LV and someone without when before Kris normal attack dealt about like 50-100 more damage (can't remember) compared to Noelle's iceshock, and now she deals about 54k more damage than you per hit
I believe only his physical defense increased, so sword attacks won't do much against his suit. Might be hard to protect against ice though.
yeah, noelle’s iceshock and snowgrave both completely ignore opponent defenses, so she doesn’t have ridiculous magic stat here. the iceshock formula is 30(magic-10)+90+randnum(0,10) so her magic stat when she defeats spamton neo is around 30.
Nice instead of fixing the glitch the boss is just harder. Genius ngl
I wish they made either of the spamton fights even remotely as hard as jevil. I completed the snowgrave spamton neo fight on second try! It’s way to easy!
hes like 10 x-slash and ded lol, jevil has no cheat codes except the z mashing rude buster glitch in an attack route @honey-hunterslimefanno.3257
fun fact: Though ZL works as a secondary confirm button in switch, you can't do the exploit there
I was disappointed to learn you couldn't do it on Switch. Fortunately you can at least still get the free heal by clicking the right joy stick.
Is your pfp homestuck related?
@@vanessa9815 it's from a fanventure called Sburbia Online. it hasn't been updated in years but I suggest giving it a read
you finally did it, im so proud of you
It took me about 2hrs but Im proud to say I beat this without the glitch. (also because I didn't even know it existed lol)
Can it be considered a glitch at this point? There's an internal tracker for using it, which enables Spamton NEO's enraged mode. The trigger is called "funnycheat" I believe.
It was a glitch, with the game acknowledging and reacting to it.
@@derekstryder2281 When I did it, it was classified as a glitch because I beat the boss legit before the patch. But now it's a whole feature to use against him to make it easier or harder depending on skill level.
Can you beat spamton without calling for your friends by whittling down his hp by 10 at a time?
he eats pipis so, no
Yeah it will always remain at least at 6%. Also don’t bother hacking Kris’ attack star as you will already deal 10 damage at that point.
I tried doing that, but no, his hp is capped at 6% and you can't drop it below.
Sad, would be nice to be another ending than "noelle pls help spambot is being rude
@@culfre
can we hack it so see what happens if it drops below 6% ?
@@cezarcatalin1406 Spamton would just heal using pipis so no point doing that
1:11 huh, abusing the heart attack to gain TP, clever.
Haha thanks, this was actually the strategy I used to try and no-hit him originally but there were a ton of videos already out by the time I was on my 50th attempt or so and just gave up.
@@MysticSlime wait, 50th attempt? That's rough. I assumed you all were just real good at the game.
"It's for me?!" *followed by internal screaming as he gets bombarded by his own flying heads*
Have you seen what happens in this chapter when you inspect the ShadowCrystal? I saw it on Merg's video, but it basically says "for a brief moment you saw the computer lab(I think looking through the crystal), but it must have been your imagination."
I'm wondering if it is related to Kris's red eye
Or the shadow crystals just reflect the truth of the dark world and shows that its just based on the computer lab or the closet. Maybe thats why spamton and jevil went crazy, cuz it reflects the truth.
@@shoopersaiyan Then I wonder why the Sean is collecting them?
@@slowpokeofdoom I mean isn't he technically blind so maybe he just wants others not to become what his friend became insane from knowing the truth
I mean wasn't charas eyes naturally red so why couldn't Kris have it too (btw idk if this is true or everyone just made it a headcanon)
@@slowpokeofdoom i think he said he was gonna make something for the player if im not mistaken
Kris: **tries to go home**
Spamton: hi
Kris: **uses exploits to go through**
Kris: Abuses a glitch to insta-win basically
Spamton: *(ANGRY CAR LIKE NOISES BEEP BEEP)*
*listen here you little sh-*
Edit: How in the [!#&%] did this get so many [Big shot(s)] like I'm not even [Killing] anyway [Press Alt F4 For] HELP!
“LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE [[$!$!]], YOU THINK YOU CAN USE THE [[Pipis]] TO MAKE YOUR OWN [[Hyperlink Blocked]] TO USE THAT MANY [[Big Shot(s)]] AND NOT [[Get Away]] WITH IT!?”
that is so funny
the car beep noises
player:uses big shot spam
spamton:[ANGRY CAR NOISES BEEP BEEP BEEP]
ok i love a big shot but uh
THAT IS SO MANY THAT IS SUCH [!?!?!?!?!?!?!] YOUR GONNA [!?!?!?!] ME LIKE [!?!?!?!?!] DONT YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING THAT IS JUST SPAM YOU GOTTA DIE NOW
unequipping all your armor and enraging Spamton seems to be a good way to practice no damage
Spamton noticed your cheating, and basically he was being stolen from at that rate...
Noelle's damage:
nice2
nice9
nice3
293, take notes /j
I still love how instead of patching the bug, Toby just made the boss harder if you use it.
did the enraged fight my first time on snowgrave, didnt find it too difficult cus I already beat him on normal (this was about 9 hours ago)
No, it’s probably just because spamton neo isn’t hard on snowgrave, or normal.
He just isn’t hard.
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 hes more difficult than the rest of the game (outside of jevil) but yeah he only took me 3 atts on normal and 4 with enraged snowgrave
Spamton’s self-projecting lines in this route are just heartbreaking. He’s literally saying his story, he lost all hopes and he’s telling Kris (or us) to do so as well. :(
there's almost no changes so this is relatively just the same fight but easier since you can abuse a bug. Still, nice no-hit.
I've done a no-hit of the this fight as well and yes you can skip half of his attacks simply by doing major damage often. Including his ultimate if done fast enough. The phone hands are fast normally anyway. When I did my no-hit it was before this patch but I never abused the exploit as it is rather cheesy.
I think the only difference is that he does more damage when he hits you, which obviously doesn't make a difference when you're trying to do a no-hit.
¿De qué trata el "exploit"?
@@spamtong.spamton7601 if you hold down the enter key, and then tap the Z key, you can fire the powerful shots rapidly
This is a certified [Big Shot] classic.
If you listen closely at 1:09 you will jevils theme in the background which is a pretty neat actually.
I love that instead of fixing the glitch, Mr. Fox and his team just acknowledged it by making Spamton react to it
3:23 Enraged Spamton [Bluelight Specil] is Spamton’s most powerful form
1:23 pipis bullying moment
Pee bullying
4:25 fun little fact: it says "YOU whispered Noelle's name", implying that Kris didn't (the game does not refer to Kris as you when you call out others) actually whisper Noelle's name, but it was the one controlling him (im 80% sure its not Gaster.)
Holy shit you're right, it's confirmed then. We are making Kris do things.
Why do people keep bringing up gaster tho
@@BoltBarkingatthemoon cuz phone call in dark world and why jevil got Locked he fit
@@BoltBarkingatthemoon I've got the same question. Its like, Gaster is a part of the story (presumably) but holy shit he's not the whole fucking plot.
DestroidHak he actually is maybe if you knew all the Easter eggs in the game then you would know everything leads back to gaster
Istg Noelle's iceshock soundeffect freaks me out ever since i completed the Weird route.
I love how he honks when he gets mad.
0:15
Are we not going to talk about how that hit was perfectly in sync with the music
No.
Hey, at least, his joke is quite good though.
"What's she gonna do, make me an [Ice Cream]!?"
Sounds like he's talking about himself when he mentions how pathetic it is for you to call out your friends names at the bottom of a dumpster. Kind of sad
I imagine your heart sunk every time your heard the near miss sound effect
I still wonder if you can potentially still kill him with normal attacks after his DEf rose by just being patient enough.
Nope, he eats Pipis
Making the boss angry and harder when you do an exploit is one of the most clever things I seen in a boss fight.
3:34 undertale flash backs
Exploiters: *finds an infinite big shot glitch*
Toby: here's a gamer move *adds a funny easter egg that makes Spamton NEO harder*
Exploiters: no hit lol
Toby Fox: 0:24
Toby after finding out the glitch through the community:
*... You think you're funny? huh? it's alright, I know how to deal with you pranksters.*
Imagine if he added sans' dialouge fron UT when u exploit or hack the game
@@lorddumb21 acultuu undertale add snas calling yuo cahter by useing hacks
@@alexanderdahms4001 Hope Godzilla doesn't read this
Dunno if there's anything more haunting than closing the fountain without the overdriven guitar...
I realized that calling for Noelle is the only time Kris whispered a name. It seems Kris actually hesitated to use the product of "the player's" doing and put her to last for Noelle's sake, because you know, they're childhood friends.
Kris actually didn't do it. It says Kris called for help the other times but it says "You" whispered for Noelle.
Kris didn’t whispered Noelle’s name but it’s us, the players who did it as it says “You whispered Noelle’s name” instead of “Kris calls for help”.
I like how some games have good anticheats. example: Doors (ambush kills when u start round)
i like how instead of. you know. patching the glitch. he just made him able to kill you in 3-2 hits.
4:42 Welp, she cooled him off after being triggered 😂
I mean, _technically_ speaking, an enraged no-hit run is easier than a normal no-hit run.
2:22 in my opinion this attack right here is the hardest to no-hit
3:00 it gets funnier each time
One thing I wish Toby did was make enraged spamton DISABLE big shots
Seeing as the next dark world will most likely be at Kris's house I really hope toriel gets in and teaches him some dreemur fire magic. I mean he's technically a dreemur too.
She's gonna be a party member that specializes in fire, Susie and her will bond, with Toriel mentioning that Ralsei looks familiar, and Undyne will be an antagonist or anti-hero for a good portion of the chapter. Kris will either be a player character, or an Antagonist as well. That or both at the same time. Noelle may sneak out to the Dreemur household to investigate why the two aren't at school (assuming a school day) or instead go to Kris's house to get help from him with Susie. If not, then she won't be seen until the end of the chapter, either working on her project with Berdly, at church with her dad, or only her dad will be at church (assuming Snowgrave). Berdly will likely be working at the library after the chapter, with Noelle, or you will find his comatose form in the hospital room adjacent to Rudolph's room. In any case, it's gonna be an amazing show with Drama, Romance, and Bloodshed!
spamton neo in pacifist: im the secret boss you want to fight me?
me:nope i do it later
spamton neo in snowgrave:boom! before you want to seal the fountain
1 on 1 me first
me:but i only have cd bagel(is that the right name for the item?)
spamton neo:who cares
I wish this was able to be done on switch-
(The whole spamming big shots and Enraged Spamton thing-)
Props to this guy for putting himself through endless torture to make this video.
I hope this stays in in the nintendo switch version
Unfortunately, I don't think there would be a good button combo like the Z and enter keys.
@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 probably the "+" button (?) Probably not but meh
@@erikg5458 I guess you could use the button remapping feature (Also, Deltarune chapter 2 is now on Switch and is a free update to chapter 1, yay!)
@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 really 0:::::?
@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 tysm
"neo is known for it's high defense"
Also spamton neo: *getting damaged even when you miss*
technically it doesnt make a difference, since its a no hit anyways
Players: hey we found this glitch
Toby: *I see this as an absolute win*
is not a bug, is an [unespected feature]
I can’t tell if Toby Fox added this because he wanted to make it seem like this was a part of the plan all along, or as a fun reward to everyone who knew about it, or if genuinely it was easier to just work around it rather than figure out what was causing the problem and try to fix it.
I think the last option is the funniest to me. Just imagining a -programmer- dog sitting at the computer like “you know what? It’s a feature now. I’m going to bed.”
:o so this glitched was made in purpose? or not removed and he do this? or is a "patch"?
Basically, there was an unintentional glitch that allowed you to spam [BIG SHOT], so Toby Fox patched in "enraged" mode which activates when using this glitch. Enraged mode makes Spamton NEO deal more damage, though we don't see this here since this is a no-hit run.
@@EP1CxEMAN08 i think adding the animation and the increasing damage is whay faster than fixing the whole shooting system so thats why he decide to do this raged mode instead which i actually find more enterteaning than just patch the glitch.
It wasn't on purpose. But Toby Fox discovered this glitch and instead of removing it. He made Spamton go angry if you use it and Spamton does almost double the damage. Thats why Toby Fox is such a good dev, unlike most others who would just fix the glitch
Believe it or not, around 4 months back I did this myself except I DIDNT do the glitch. Even if it was my worst preforming video of the month, it’s one of my favorites because I’m just so proud of myself for pulling it off.
I did, however, do something different where I grazed the heart attack bullets rather than shooting the heart. Apparently after watching this video that was a lesser thing to do since I still had to do the wreck-spew final attack if I recall correctly.
Does this happen in the pacifist NEO fight or only snowgrave route?
both
@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 haha nice. I used the exploit just before it upped his damage.
With how obsessed this guy is with Spamton I’m almost 100% certain at this point that he IS Spamton.
This is just bullying at this point.
0:53
wow, that's disrespectful AF lol
Oh god, I can hear the world revolving in the background. Like this even remotely holds a candle to Jevil.
Is difficulty everything in a game? I like Spamton much more than Jevil as a character, the fight is amazing in terms of visual design too, and so I'd say it's Jevil who doesn't hold a candle to Spamton. Just my opinion though, feel free to have your own.
Your opinion is valid, but my statement had nothing to do with the difficulty. Jevil looks harder to me, yes and i've not played chapter 2 personally. But really this does just seem like a Jevil Ripoff character in a way. His backstory is different, but the catalyst to his insanity is the same. Overall to me, Jevil just seems more...fun. Even if getting to him was a pain in the ass. Starting to think the remaining 3 chapters may potentially have similar bosses who went insane because of the "mysterious person"
@@SephirothXValentine Wait until you play chapter 2, this guy's out of battle stuff (and normal battle stuff) are super funny
@@SephirothXValentine Thing is, Spamton has a lot of content outside of the battle. He's much more of a character than Jevil.
I love how Toby did the thing ro this glitch. If new people used this glitch, then they would die quickly. But people who have experienced Spamton neo and don't wanna experience again they put up a engraged form so you can speed through the fight
When you dont know how to fix a bug:
0:54 good to know im not the only one who uses that attack to farm tp instead of shooting
Lol what change when he is enraged?
He does way more damage (it varies but can go from double or higher I think) and I think he may have new attacks which are faster, although that could've been just a general update to him in this patch.
@@MysticSlime Spamton also seems to add MORE particles...
car horns are the new funniest way to depict someone getting mad
Spamton is not that hard people find a feature Toby let me make that hard for you buddy
"is it me or is it getting cold in here?"
*says while his head is literally burning*
this doesn't count, delet.
Most game developers reacting to a bug: Let's remove it.
Toby: Two can play at that game.