Fact Or Fiction: Ryanair's 'Harder Than Average' Landings
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Ryanair is an airline that has long been comically associated with cutting costs by whatever means. From jokes about charging for toilet usage to the carrier's own social media accounts leaning into its thrifty reputation, it has become a part of the overall Ryanair experience.
There is one unusual point that many Ryanair passengers have commented on, namely the airline's alleged tendency to perform harder-than-usual landings. Both online chatter and word-of-mouth have furthered this claim, although others have dismissed it as imaginary - so, is there any truth to the notion that Ryanair landings are harder than your average airline?
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They’re just trying to shake change out of pockets. Every penny counts.
the flight attendants are on standby for any loose change
Most memorable landing on Ryanair was into Forli, from Hahn. Slammed into the runway, followed by a level of braking that tested every seatbelt and made several passengers around me grab the seat in front of them in case they needed to brace. Other passengers were screaming. No one clapped.
I remember landing at Newcastle airport, i have never known braking like it, I felt like i was pressed to the seat infront of
I would love to experience that
@@grozaphy Same gurlll 💅💅💅🤩👁️👄👁️✨
@@johnbx2795 max performance 👏 🙌 Geeet some
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing
I can explain: hard landings have nothing to do with turnarround times, we are encouraged to vacate runway early not only to faciltate operations for the airport, but to save on taxi distance, which saves fuel, company has worked out that brake wear cost is less than a couple minutes extra taxi fuel. Your likely to experience a firm landing with any company, but the fact that we operate 2-3x the number of flights per day than most carirers makes it more likely. Also inexpericend crew at times yes, never unsafe though. lastly at times a fimer landing is actually safer, weather or runway dependant. :)
Years ago I was on an SAS flight, sitting next to an SAS training captain who was deadheading. I asked him why I seemed to have noticed firmer landings than I was used to in the U.S. He said that pilots were downgraded on check flights for holding the plane off to get the softest landing. The logic was the fact that runway behind the plane is useless and due to the typically poor weather in Europe, they wanted the pilots to get the landing gear firmly onto the runway as quickly as possible to get get the tires to penetrate through any standing water and slush to get the wheels to spin up quickly to get the anti-skid braking to activate. It also depresses the “squat switches” on the landing gear to allow the spoilers and thrust reversers to activate.
I know next to nothing about flying, not my niche at all, but this is one of the most informative youtube comments I've ever read. Just pure fact, simple love of the game. Respect.
He told you a nice story, but it’s just an excuse. You can land accurately and smooth. Smooth landings doesn’t mean you have to float.
Also, squat switches are just one way of getting the spoilers. Wheel spin up does the same.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Right
I have had hard landings on Jet2 and BA where the plane has bounced. Ryanair landings are firm, but never hard. Its always a good idea for the plane to land as quick as possible to avoid floating
a wise man once said
"Ryanair does not land, they arrive"
😂
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I've not found Ryanair landings any harder than other 737 operators including North and South American airlines. I've always found the 737 in general to be a harder landing than the A320 family, but nothing to get bothered about. Personally, I thought it was the shorter gear, but the need to avoid over-flaring makes sense.
well - those two things are connected aren't they (shorter gear = less flaring possible)
The 737 is not harder to land smoothly.
On a genuine note, as someone who has flown Ryanair and 737s many times, the aircraft point is probably the most valid factor imo. I have also been spotting several 737s in Australia and from what me and my family have experienced, it’s considerably low-to ground hence why the landings look and feel more intense.
I think the taxi time and tailstrike risks are very good explainations. Young pilots makes sense too. It probably is a combination of all those factors.
I think these factors might play a really small role. But overall as a frequent Ryanair passenger I’ve experienced a balance of all kinds of landings
I've flown Ryanair very frequently over the years, as well as many other operators, and if I'm completely honest I don't find their landings any more firm than any other airline.
You must have been in love then, that's not honest ;)
@@christoohunders5316The pilot that landed my flight into Landvetter today buttered the landing when it seemed we’d go around or divert.
Firm landings but never hard
I agree, I used to use them 10 or 12 times a year for many years and I only had one hard landing that I can recall, into Knock airport.
Same here I don't know what weather these people are deciding to fly in but all my landing are smooth with ryanair
I'll share a funny RyanAir story:
Once I flew from Kerry Airport (Southwest of Ireland) to Frankfurt-Hahn (fake-Frankfurt!) in summer 2005, and on that sunny day their incoming airplane, scheduled to depart to Frankfurt, stopped too close to the terminal shack in Kerry for it to use its engines to maneuver itself out of there; one wing stopped just short of touching the terminal shack and was actually above the roof of it, and they had to get all the men working at the airport in Kerry, which were no more than a dozen, to manually push the airplane back a long stone's throw away from the terminal building.
How do I know this?
I was sitting there in disbelief with the other passengers when the wing stopped right over our heads, visible through the glass roof.
Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this?
Never that but a colleague booked our trips to Frankfurt and was pleased as punch at the price - you can imagine my shock when we came in for landing and I realised I actually knew the airbase I was landing at from its more military days - yep the mighty Hahn - i realised at once I was a long way from destination so quickly asked the staff how to get to the real Frankfurt - ah they said there is a bus - superb I said - but your plane was a little late so the bus has gone...
Ryanair these days are often a false economy as Aer Lingus gets you into airports with rail connections for not much more, which on an evening or night flight can even be cheaper than Ryanair.
Low cost high discomfort airline 🤣
@@charlesmoss8119 And they don't care
Planting the mains hard is a typical short field tactic often used and is nothing to be concerned about. Although excessive hard landings mean extra maintenance and heavier brake wear.
Yep, braking harder also means you need to wait for them to cool, which is a no no ok a 25 min turn around
Shorter stopping distance increases brake wear. Higher sink rate at landing does not.
They do the hard landing to maximize speed reduction. Because the pilots are trained to do this to minimize brake use. They don't want to spend money on brakes
Airliners have their spoiler phasing optimized for a certain range of touchdown rates. Too hard and it's not only harsher, but a longer time for weight to settle on the wheels so that significant braking force can be developed. Instead, the aircraft is rebounding on the struts before the spoilers have time to fully deploy and kill most of the wing lift.
FWIW, a "normal" touchdown is in the 4-6 fps range, with structural failure designed for 15 fps. I doubt most people have experienced a touchdown harder than around 9 fps, and many of the comments involve ones not much over 7.
I only flew with Ryanair twice. That was in March 2023 from Kerry to Dublin and back the next day. Kerry has a significantly shorter runway than Dublin or Shannon as it's basically a local airport. I was on the 737-800 both ways, not the MAX. The landing wasn't particularly hard either way, that I can remember. The hardest landing I can remember was in the early 2000s on a flight from Dublin to Kerry again, as it happens. It was when Aer Lingus used to do the route with turbo props. I might have been on a connecting flight from an international flight on my way home, but I digress. I was asleep and the hard jolt woke me with a fright and some people yelped and screamed.
Everyone knows that the average Ryanair landing will shorten your spine by at least 1 centimeter.
Good then you have no reason to complain about the short legroom after just a few flights :P
Really? I didnt know.
@@Jet-Pack Lol yess
You can tell who flies Ryanair a lot. They not too tall.
Ryanair are awesome. Just remember it’s a coach service on wings and don’t get upsold on the baggage/boarding/seats. Some of the safest and best value flying out there.
I was explicitly told by a former Ryanair pilot that they have hard landings to ensure maximum tire contact. So the plane doesn't bounce or float when landing.
Furthermore they perform hard landings to maximize the reduction in speed as Ryanair trains pilots to avoid using the brakes and the primarily rely on the reverse thrust, flaps and the landing gear to slow itself down
This is not corresponding to reality at all. Probably you misinterpreted it
He gave you a nice excuse why his landings are hard. But it’s just an excuse.
The Company has an entire sub division dedicated to monitoring Data from Landings, and as crew, they place an emphasis on getting off the runway as quick as possible. The notion that we land hard is false, harder than other airlines, maybe....
I'm sure the planes they fly can withstand a lot more than they do for the average customer
Flying for a competing low cost carrier, and having flown the 737-800 before myself, i can't really say that Ryanair has heavier landings than others. And yes, i do use them frequently as a normal customer.
However, there are certain factors, which could lead to the impression it does. First of all, a safe landing is not a "greaser", but a landing on speed, at the planned touch down point and with the right pitch. LCCs train their pilots relentlessly for safety (if you think safety is expensive, try an accident, there is a reason GermanWings doesn't exist anymore), so i would assume that Ryanair includes the landing mantra into that safety culture. Usually in training there is a focus on a slightly positive touch down (1,3g as an aim), which assures prompt activation of all safety features, mainly the spoilers and the autobraking system (and release of the reverser interlock on non-737 planes).
Additionally to that, the 737-800 has a tendency to settle a bit heavier if one closes the thrust lever slightly too fast or early, with not that much space for slightly faster or higher rotation as the tail is fairly long.
It's not just Ryanair, Easyjet or Wizzair are similar, although the suspension on the Boeing 737 up to 800's seems to be shorted and harder which makes it feel worse.
I have flown with Ryanair about 25 times a year (because I'm a tennis player) since 2017 and i have probably experienced maybe 15 hard landings out of all of those times and they were all at Stansted in terrible weather.
I fly twice a week, every week on an airline that is world renowned for it's pilot's professionalism and see all mixes of landings on a regular basis. Everything from perfect greaser's where you can't even tell at which point the gear touched the tarmac to landings so hard you'd think you're in a F14 landing on a carrier.
TLDR; landings always vary a bit.
I have flown Ryanair dozens of times and has to be the best European Airline. Well done to Michael O Leary. HD one or 2 landings hard on the brakes but apart from that brilliant airline. When you book with them you know what you get.. Great low prices not like years ago when Aer Lingus and British Airways charged the highest prices in Europe between Dublin and London and they also had a few bumby kandings
as a retired pilot I can attest to the fact that it is difficult to get a soft landing with the Boeing 737 series aircraft. I am impressed with the A320 series fly by wire aircraft to get consistently smooth landings. Please don't blame Ryanair for the hard landings.
southwest 737 max 8 klgb-phnl landing was actually very soft, KLAS-KSWA was soft too, maybe i just got lucky
The longer the runway smoother the landings can be. In Europe the runway they're not as long as in the US
@@38whitcomb They are possible though. That said, I can only recall one 737 “butter” landing, on Basiqair (Transavia) circa 2003.
i've heard this before so thanks for clarifying
Oh, that's baloney. Even if you were a pilot, it would be usually one or the other plane. So you're just saying based on your experience as a passenger in an A320, which is not a statistically significant amount of evidence.
I’ve flown Ryanair quite a few times and it’s just a mix of firm and ‘normal’ landings. Apart from once from Savile to Stanstead. I did have to put my hand on the seat Infront for that one, it was raining though and the last flight of the night 😅
Flown with Ryanair 6 times now, and the landings were all smooth and not in the slightest bit "hard". I will say the braking was a little on the harsh side though.
I also thought there might been in internal rule of avoiding go-arounds as much as possible - anyway, I keep flying Ryanair and I like it.
Missed a great opportunity to title this video "Fact or FRICTION"
Oil or oleo!
We have flown over 50 times with ryanair,and we cannot fault any of their landings .p nb brennan
One time taxiing for a Dublin to Liverpool from the other end of the terminals the taxi speed certainly was at least 100km/h or 50 knots.
Pretty sure that’s illegal
The good news was you didn't go to Manchester
50 knots is legal I believe if backtracking a runway
How did you measure that then?
Taxi speed should be around 5 knots!
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing....and if you can RUN to your connecting flt on time, good becomes great. 😁
NO ONE can say they were a bit groggy or overly relaxed after landing and while taxiing to the gate. Whether motivated or scared, everyone was chomping at the bit to get off that plane!...everyone of them!
The paychology behind tactics to motivate passengers to expecite their debarcation at the same (or just under the same) speed as if there was a fire....is downright devious.😈
When the smoke from the tires and brakes cleared, it wasnt a crash, the inbound was on time, the out bound was on time, and no arms or legs were severed and sold to fund the flight.
BRAVO RYAN...BRAAAVO!!!
Thank you for making 'positive contact' with the ground, routine. 😁
Sometimes is necessary to have a firm land.
Say on a windy day they need to come in faster and they trade in that speed with a firm landing to be able to stop quicker.
And I thought ATC told them which taxiway to take after landing, not on pilots discretion I don't believe.
ATC cannot dictate the taxiway.
I think they just don't want to perform "Go around" in order to save some fuel.
And for me as a passenger... I experienced much harder landings not only with Ryanair but with many different airliners. But for me the main point is to be on the ground... so why not.
I heard they land faster and harder then normal as it’s harder to be blown off course when you land at a faster speed. This reduces the need for go arounds keeping them on schedule. It’s known as a positive landing.
harder than with an A. Than is comparison, then is a sequence of happenings.
They have to land at a calculated speed based on the weight of the the aircraft. They must maintain what is called Vref, a calculated speed on final. In exceptionally windy conditions or conditions of turbulence, they may use less flaps and carry a bit more speed, but the amount is determined by the Pilots’ Operating Handbook for the aircraft.
I don't know about today, but back in the early '80s when most of my travel was domestic U.S., there seemed to be some correlation between harder than normal landings and pilots who were former Vietnam-era Navy carrier-based pilots. Gotta catch that first wire!
I remember that. You knew the branch of the crew by the landings. Air Force guys stood out on the top end, navy guys were on the bars every time.
Third wire. The first wire is the worst one to catch. The aim is to catch the third out of 4.
@ Why?
@@TheMaartian Here is an explanation. But it’s not my quote.
There are four parallel arresting wires, spaced about 50 feet (15 meters) apart, to expand the target area for the pilot. Pilots are aiming for the third wire, as it's the safest and most effective target. They never shoot for the first wire because it's dangerously close to the edge of deck. If they come in too low on the first wire, they could easily crash into the stern of the ship. It's acceptable to snag the second or fourth wire, but for a pilot to move up through the ranks, he or she has to be able to catch the third wire consistently.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Thanks! That makes a lot of sense.
Hardest landing i have experienced was with Vueling, another ULC. A320 into Granada. Clear air. No crosswind. No flare.
If ryanair didn’t exist many of us wouldn’t be able to afford to travel overseas.
Ive flown ryanair loads of times and ive actually found that jet 2 have harder landings
The way I look at it - its not about a landing being hard or smooth directly, its about landing on the touchdown markers. The variables in each approach will end up being the reason for how firm a landing is.
Not Hard, but firm, it's good, preferable and is needed for active break system also avoid tailstrike
Often travelled with Ryanair, always a nice experience and good landings. Never understood why passengers complain about this airline. But maybe I’ve been lucky?
Same experience as you, I don't get all the complaints. I've flown with them since I was small, and didn't have a hard landing all this time. The only really hard landing I had was with KLM so I don't think Ryanair deserves this myth.
Ryanair’s livery is actually kind of fire 🔥
It’s livery is quite iconic !
Waterford county colours as they were originally a Waterford headquartered company.
The hardest landing I've ever experienced was SAS, that was slammed into the ground. Don't know what the pilot was thinking. Also had harder landings with Danish charter airlines than Ryanair.
Ryanair landings can be hard, but I've definitely had harder landings with other airlines
It is more likely that the success of Ryanair sticks in the craw of a lot of begrudgers. I probably flew with Ryanair on at least 20 sectors and found their landings to be no different from those of other airlines. BTW the younger the pilot the more likely the flying better flying skills. The old lad in the left seat it there for his experience and airmanship.
I will take hard landing instead of hardly landing
Flown Ryanair a few times. Think a lot of the hard landings are due to weather. wet runways. Overall my experiences have't been bad on Ryanair
I have now flown 3 RyanAir flights over the past year: Stockholm to Vienna, Berlin to Dublin, and Barcelona to Marrakech. None of them had any unusually bumpy or rough landings.
no flaring saves time 😂
Higher autobrake potentially being confused with apparent high vertical speed on touchdown 🤷🏻♂️
And I always thought, they do this to cut costs...
Since they are a low cost carrier, it makes sense that they would landing harder, so that more of the kinetic energy is absorbed by the shocks instead of causing brake and tire wear.
It's sort of the opposite of that: There's no effect on brake wear, and a smoother landing might result in slightly less tire wear.
Perhaps it's a marketing scheme to increase the consumption of alcoholic beverages on the flight. Scare the passengers into thinking the landing might get bumpy so that they buy a few more drinks to calm their nerves. And the passengers that had too much to drink and fall asleep also are automatically woken up by the bumpy landing, ensuring an on time deplaning.
Yes, but all of that extra revenue will be offset by the cost of having to perform a deep clean of the seats and carpet after the passengers soil themselves during the landing.
"Taxi speeds just short of V1." 😂😂
I fly with Ryanair often, because of the cost. I always put my hand on the seat in front for landing because often it does feel as though the plane is slammed onto the runway. Occasionally Aer Lingus is the cheaper option and the landings are so smooth. (The cabin crew and flight crew are always older too.)
So maybe it is a 737 issue.
The Aer Lingus video on their landings versus Ryanair is hilarious!
Ryanair’s pilots are certainly as good as any other airlines and possibly better due to the number of sectors they fly every day. What probably makes the difference is operating from smaller runways where you don’t mess about. But as I can’t stand O’Leary I’ll never fly with them I’ll never find out.
Hard seats makes you feel the landing as hard.
Used them once. NEVER. AGAIN. Late arrival meant we narrowly missed the opening hours for our car rental. They cancelled the car AND KEPT THE MONEY. When we asked for a refund for £200 of unused car rental caused by them, they told us we should have called from the plane to warn them we were late. Ryanair has no WiFi or internet. We did call as soon as we landed. On the return leg they hit us another £150 for “oversized” hand-carry which has been fine for years on every other airline. All-in, between hotels, Ubers, baggage charges and a last-minute car rental to replace the one they cancelled and stole, our £700 trip cost £1500. Oh, and the landing was the hardest I’ve experienced in 50 years of flying. There were people inspecting the landing gear as soon as we parked and people were swearing, shouting and grabbing their seats. NEVER. AGAIN. Don’t be tempted, they’re crooks
And you won't be missed.
That may be a surprise for you but usually late departures mean late arrivals so if you had all your marbles you'd call your car rental company before your late departure.
Oversized hand luggage? Cry me a river, it's as simple as reading what dimensions are allowed. But that's probably over your head too...
So please stay with legacy airlines, pay their inflated rates so I can keep flying with them too, just for dirt money as I know how to find a good deal and not to overpay for my flight. That strategy requires dozens of overpaying idiots tho so thank you for your service
@ they were actually as expensive as the legacy carriers and still put-trip wires in place, we chose them to replace a connection in Paris CDG with a much longer car trip and delays are cumulative, not only at the gate but on the ground, in taxi and in the air, totaling over 90 mins. To say we all have to call 4 hours in advance before the flight leaves based on a still-unknown delay is asinine, some delays occur AFTER you’re told to switch off your phone and simply pocketing the money for a car rental THEY made it impossible to use is theft. It’s the difference between acting in good faith and going out of your way to make a journey as ugly as possible. Moreover, the company with the Ts and Cs about the car rental cancellation is actually a third-party Ryanair subsidiary not visible anywhere in the booking material, so when you call Ryanair and finally get through, they tell you to call that company, which is not the same as the car rental company. So you get the runaround with each of three parties saying talk to someone else and it’s still unclear who has the actual money. This is by design. And are you seriously willing to defend “you should have called us from the plane 20 mins before arrival” when said plane has no internet or cell connectivity??? Regarding templates, the same cases were measured as fine on the outward trip on the same aircraft (why?) and with multiple other carriers, and a woman at the carousel had a tiny carry-on about half the size of ours for which she was charged £60. When she asked why, they said something about the wheels, which were completely normal. They wait till you’re boarding to do this so you can’t argue. In our case, the “oversize” was so miniscule it was pathetic. I could replace them but who’s to say they won’t just shrink the template again?
All Ryanair’s booking emails say about delays is “we are fully responsible for reimbursing unused car rental payments and helping you complete your journey”, which they singularly failed to do. The car rental company did offer us the same car, but at 3X the price. Fair?
Ryanair was just fined €90 million by the Spanish government for “deceptive pricing practices”including the ever-shrinking hand-luggage template boondoggle, so you keep thinking you’re clever. In the bigger picture, it’s part of a trend from a high trust to a low trust society, with the evisceration of consumer protections and the shifting of all risk from corporations onto consumers. People were mad when the financial crisis exposed the privatization of profit but the nationalization of risk and that’s what we see across the board - all risk now goes to YOU. If you’re willing to accept the Stockholm syndrome and be their sucker, be my guest, they’ll get you in the end. I will happily use other airlines whose primary business model is not trying to trap or screw me over at every turn. For example, I had a crisis with TAP Portugal when carrying a pet dog in a crate and the ventilation failed below decks before takeoff. We had to de-board and take a different flight from another airport, all very difficult but they re-booked, put us in a cab and made us whole financially. What would Ryanair have done? I’d still be paying the bills and/or not sure if I’d still have the dog.
I’m quite certain I would win a legal case based on all the above and Ryanair’s own literature - it text book corresponds to the Spanish government’s finding of deception but it puts the burden of finding a lawyer and paying costs to recover a couple of hundred quid on me and they know that makes no sense. Easy answer: they’re the one and only airline I will never touch again and I did intense business travel for over 30 years. You think you’re smarter than other people but the burden of all this, including reading layers of small print and anticipating open deception and traps, still falls to you
@@SamLowry42 There is no way I'm reading that essay mate. Just be offended and don't fly with them anymore.
@@KK91KK91a if you’re not interested in reading the reply, don’t make the comment. It’s a complex reply because Ryanair made it a horribly convoluted situation, which I was trying to avoid reflecting in my original post
@@SamLowry42 Write a book about it then, I don't really care about your singular case and reading a step by step whining
Twenty five minute turnaround time! Yet to see one of those. I would be happy if they actually left on time. I'm sure the leeway of calculation specification allows them to claim that they do but my experience is that a delay is more likely than a on-schedule flight. They are cheap though and that's why I nearly always fly with them. You "pays" your money, you 'makes' your choice 🤷♂
They’ve stripped the seat cushions down to 2 sheets of A4, so you feel the landing
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Great landing 🛬 👍🏴
If you think Ryanair do hard landings now, imagine what it was like in the late 90’s in their old 737-200’s, especially on services piloted by displaced Serb & Croat pilots
A young, new pilot and an old experienced pilot are both trained to the same high standards.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!❤
its cheaper to cause wear on the tires by putting the 737 down hard, than to do a go-around
Lmao taxi speed just short of V1 🤣🤣🤣
I fly 737’s. Our training captain told us to stop floating and trying to make our landings pretty. 😂 737’s were designed for short field and hard landings. The gear can take it.
Your training Captain told you that because he couldn’t land smoothly probably.
It’s silly to say that the 737 was designed for that. The 737 gear can take the same abuse as all other airplanes, they are not designed for “extra abuse”.
@ I’ll go pass it along to the head of the 737 training department that he’s wrong and we should float.
@@saxmanb777 show me where I said it’s ok to float? He was right about the floating part. Are you under the understanding that a smooth landing can only be made through floating?
No, what I said was that the 737 wasn’t designed for hard landings. It wasn’t even designed for short runways. However, you can purchase a short field package, but that wasn’t even on the classic models, which those were the initial designs.
@ lol. You sure are getting worked up over my comments. I’m the one that said float.
@@saxmanb777 worked up? Now you think
I’m worked up? Does this stuff just randomly enter your mind? 🤪
I was just explaining that the 737 wasn’t designed for hard landings. I had no other thoughts beyond that.
you have to pay the soft landing charge when you book your seat - its one of tick boxes online when you are trying to avoid paying for travel insurance , no one sees this -hence ....
Recently in 28 January flight to Liverpool from Dublin the landing of Ryanair was very bumpy landing even in the front
I flew Ryanair a couple of times. I dont remember the landings but their 737s have very used up interiors and are way louder than the Wizz A320s.
I have a feeling that after hard landing the airplane’s breaking distance is shorter so it is not bad, it will not overrun the runway.
It's called a good spot landing 😊
But a thrifty airline would want fewer hard landings, as they just increase wear and tear on the aircraft and the chances of something breaking way before its replacement date.
What people don’t know. Is that a plane should land on the touchdown marking. Anything more or less is unsafe.
Pilots do not get a pat on the back for a soft landing, pilots get one when they land on the touchdown markings and on centreline. Its very difficult to get that 100% right.
Ryanair has a safety record that speaks for itself. Safety safety safety gets drilled into RA pilots.
Of course you get a pat on the back for a smooth landing. But it also has to be on center line and close to the touchdown markings. And it’s not that difficult.
Every pilot in the world is gets drilled about safety. That’s not done at a higher level at RA.
The two airports in Chicago, O’Hara international and Midway airport . The landings and take offs that Midway are harder and more aggressive. With steep climbs and descents. Compared with O’Hara , the runway lengths are half the length and at Midway the pilots have neighborhood buildings right up to the border of the airport. Years ago on a snowy day there was even an airplane that over ran the edge of the runaway and edge up in the street. O’Hara landing are rarely hard.
No! I fly with Ryanair 3 times every week and only a few times experienced hard landing with them.
In the US Southwest pilots land hard. My butt hurts for a couple days after flying on Southwest.
My instructor accused me of Ryanair takeoffs but not landings 😂
It may seem an off topic question, but did Ryanair changed its livery recently? I have seen in this video that the “harp” logo seems to be tilted upwards both in the tail and the fuselage in some aircrafts
2017 flew to Ibiza with Ryan Air. After we had a hard landing my friend onboard with me told this is not Ryan Air, this is Rayyan Air :D Arabic speaking people would get what I mean lol :D
This is going to be a potential issue when the 737-10 finally enters service with Ryanair, possibly by early 2026. Can you imagine what a hard landing will be like on a plane some 14 feet longer than a 737-800? I wouldn't be surprised that 737-10's will only be assigned to Ryanair routes that fly to longer runway airports initially.
That's what she said 👀
Is it just me or does it seem a bit risky at 0.56 mins on the video where people are walking out to board their aircraft as one taxies in to the next door stand?
Best shuttle company I ever flight.
Last time I remember flying with them was into Stansted. We seemed to be going very fast...Too fast.. surely we must be doing a go around? Surely? Thud. It was no so much hard as very fast. Taxiing was pretty fast too.
Very true, they land so bad, I was arriving from palma de mallorca to hahn Frankfurt 😢it's a terrible Landing
Not enough people pay for the soft landing option so theres that....
When you have 1000s of flights daily you’re gonna have a few hard landings. I’ve flown them several times and never had a harder than usual landing.
Has anyone ever landed at La guardia? Everytime iv landed there, hard landing with heavy braking and thrust reverse. Ryanair passangers should try this once. They wouldn't complain again. Lol
I hardly have smooth landings on 737s as a passenger
In this article it seems you are defending(excusing)the PILOTS and company. The real problem is the severe commercial pressure on pilots operation and company procedures which pilots do not like but follow. Priorities are also changed. They start with economy, next is on time operation, third is safety and passenger comfort is the last one😎
I’ll ask my step sisters bf.
(Actual RyanAir 737 Captain)
What was the point of your comment?
I'll ask my step sisters cousins mums brother.
(Actual Ryan of Ryanair)
The airframe is lower on a Ryanair B737 compared to the EasyJet A320
Get over it ,Ryanair has an excellent safety record.All airlines experience hard landing.😊
I believe they land hard cuz most of the airports they fly to have short runways. So they try to land at the head of the runway so that they have enough to slow down.
Never flown with them, but I think the "hard landing" myth is just that, a myth. And there doesn't seem to be any distinction between what professionals call "a firm landing" and what the ignorant masses call "a hard landing". One more thing to take into account is where you are sitting on a plane and what type of plane you're flying on. Generally, the closer you sit to the gear, the more you're gonna feel the touchdown. I grew up in Iceland and flew many times both domestically and on international flights with Icelandair, or Loftleidir, as they were called when I was a kid. There was also a general perception, and a bit of a myth too, that the worse the weather, the better Icelandic pilots were at landing. And funnily enough, that was my experience. The worst landing I've ever experienced on Icelandair was on a 757 landing in CPH in the middle of summer, 30 degrees and no wind. Pilot basically slam-dunked the plane into the runway so hard that people screamed and overhead bins popped open. But the best landings I've experienced on Icelandair were during terrible weather, with crosswinds and gusts, where I hardly felt the wheels touch the ground. Almost no landings on domestic flights were "smooth"; the Fokker F27, F50 and DeHavilland Dash 8's have pretty stiff legs.
Flew to Cyprus with RyanAir and the landing was so hard that I felt scared for my spine, Since then I ALWAYS put my head on the back of the seat in front of me when landing to take some of the G forces.
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NOOOO!!! YOU CAN'T BUTTER A RYANAIR 737! IT'S AGAINST OUR POLICIES!!!!!!
No way. I can't count the number of Ryanair flights I've taken and I cannot recall 1 single "thumper" of a landing.
But then it's always fun for some to throw mud at Ryanair.
Just remember which airline allowed you to fly without having to take out a mortgage.
Aer Lingus and BA in the sixties were charging their normal fare of £212 DUB-LHR.....that's about €1600 today!! There were higher fares. Chew on that....
It's their policy. If the pilot performs a smooth landing, they get fired.
Real
What's so funny
Absolute nonsense!
Too low landing gear maintenance costs will get the pilots fired.
@jantjarks7946 what real evidence do you have for that statement? Sounds ludicrous!
I love Ryanair. It does exactly what it says on the tin. A to B done.