WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF MOTORCYCLES? - POWERING THE FUTURE - LIVE AT BIKE SHED MOTO SHOW LONDON 2023
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Filmed at Bike Shed London this May, Dutch, Morgan Gales & Gareth Charlton from the Bike Shed ran a live podcast with Adrian Sellers from Royal Enfield, Grant Bester from Indian Motorcycles and John Hogan from Norton to discuss what's powerplant technology we might be swinging a leg over in the near future, and asking; "Electric bikes. Is that it?"
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Loud pipes save lives! Long live the freedom of riding bikes forever
Just to be clear, Norton began manufacturing motorcycles in 1902, Royal Enfield in 1901. James Lansdowne Norton founded Norton in 1898 as a manufacturer of fittings and parts for the two-wheel trade. In 1882 George Townsend started making components for cycle manufacturers. (c/o Wikipedia) Awesome discussion gentleman.
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Really interesting discussion! Obviously fossil fuels are finite so we need a new solution, but one huge issue for me about all alternative fuels and EV solutions is they seem to focus entirely on emissions and ignore their total impact to the environment. Battery production is exploiting people and polluting large areas of the world due to mining and there doesn’t seem to be any great recycling solutions yet. Also Hydroden requires huge amounts of energy to produce and currently comes mostly from fossil fuels. If the idea is to reduce the impact to the environment then it needs to consider the whole wider picture, not one point. At the moment it’s probably more environmentally friendly to get an old knackered petrol bike back up and running!
Time for some more tea. Just finished. Great panel but you'll need to get Morgan a bit out of his shell more for these in the future. Think he said one sentence in 40+ minutes of panel.
My fault, I talk too much. Morgan and Gareth lead the next ones on the Future of Customs - Out next Thursday I think.
@dutchvansomeren9943 looking forward to it.
If bike manufacturers eliminate clutches and gears, they’ve created a much larger possible market! Good, bad, or indifferent, that’s money in the profit column.
If there’s a demand, every single time the market has responded by meeting that demand. The same is true with meeting any future demand for electricity. Why? Profits.
I own and drive and love my EV in my home in Sacramento California (and no I’ve NEVER been instructed to turn off my a/c or not plug in my EV and we get many dummer days over 100 degrees F). I also own and ride and love my Indian Scout motorcycle.
I saw an electric motorcycle for less than $8000 USD. Whether it comes into a marketable product or not is immaterial - it shows where the market is going.
I’d definitely give serious consideration to an electrical motorcycle. I’ve lived with my EV for over two years and fully understand its benefits and advantages.
There are many who suffer from FUD and try to spread all that through disinformation. Those fears are being displaced by the reality that the trifurcation is happening. There will always be Luddites who desperately cling to the past. And that’s where they’ll end up living - in the past.
Steam Lorries were taxed off the roads in the 1920s. They could carry much more weight and faster , than the petrol lorrys of the day.
My issue with electric is the range. I love long-distance riding and it takes less than five minutes to fuel up my Goldwing. I’ve ridden 1650 miles in 26 hours. I can’t imagine the added time for charging. My guess an additional eight hours plus.
Allooooooot more than 8 hours currently brother 😂😂😂
i dont know any one who wants an electric bike not even the 18/19 year olds.cant see the electric bike industry making the main stream any time soon.
I don't know anyone who wants a pet python, but it doesn't mean there aren't pet python owners.
There don't seem to be that many 18/19 year olds that are into motorcycles full-stop, Deliveroo riders aside. What I do see is loads of young people on eScooters because in urban areas where traffic moves slowly they make sense, they're cheaper, there's no need to train to ride them why wouldn't you?
My EV makes 835 hp and over 900 lbs.ft (at zero revs). It is infinitely nicer to drive than the BMW M's and Porsche's I've owned (and faster). Bikes are currently difficult to package as an EV, and that makes range an issue currently. But necessity is the mother of all invention, and not only will we get there, we'll get there sooner than people think, because EV development is still in its infantcy compared with ICE. As for "where does all the fuel come from", that hold no weight, as this video shows: ruclips.net/video/mk-LnUYEXuM/видео.html
It’s also got a massive carbon foot print and does nothing for the environment