Koei have now posted a Survey for this fucking mess, so post your feelings for it there (I doubt they'll take note considering their business practices with Dead or Alive 6) EU: www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo4u_eu NA: www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo4u_na
They thought their fluidity graphics as what their fanbase is claiming can beat tekken 7 and mk11 but sorry doa6 is not that good enough Doa5 is better compare to doa6 but not even close with tekken 7 and mk11 sorry koei even if they guest all KOF still bland and lacking The storyline is meh
I personally like the story, I find it interesting how they added Norse and Greek mythology along with the Japanese and Chinese mythology. The ost’s were really nice too. It’s not as god tier as Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, but I think if the Warriors Orochi series wants to improve, they need to improve the AI function. Make it harder.
Medusa should have been the final boss really, instead of just a source for the amulets. Keeps with the snake theme of the other games. Orochi > Hydra > Medusa.
I’m also annoyed by how when we pick the elite characters, most of the time they aren’t even included in the scenario. That’s how scripted the damn game is.
I still play WO3U to this day. It's a great game. I'll never understand the die-hard fanbase either. Getting on you for simply speaking the truth is a joke. I love Koei as well, but what they have done recently is just brain dead trash. I've loved the Warriors franchise since I was younger with DW2. Koei has gotten beyond lazy now. It kills me to say that. It's such a damn shame. Thanks again for another great review. Always look forward to you your uploads.
I still might get the DLC for this game, I just want to beat the crap out of enemies on this game. At least we can now get Weapon X for the characters. But wish they would put back the gold attribute for the whirlwind. This is needed for characters that use hand to hand combat or short range weapons.
@@SexGravy Thank you for always doing these great reviews! Exactly. They can waste all their money to further the cancer that Koei is sadly becoming. The truth hurts they say, they just have to realize it. I'm going back into Gauntlet Mode!
I don't think you're being negative. I think you're like me, someone who played since near the beginning and just feel sad that this is all we've got. After for honor came out years ago, I was hoping they would meet them somewhere in the middle and innovate the gameplay mechanics. Sadly no it's exactly the same.
Claymore007 I got in on DW8XL and tbh this review has gotten me weary enough to not play this game, I want to play WO3U but since I want it specifically on Switch, I have to deal with no eng subs since I’d have to buy a Japanese release due to a lack of an American/European release.
To be honest, I've been playing dw8e for the last 2 weeks and started playing wo4u (I 100% wo4 when it came out) today and something felt off, like I was getting bored or something, no idea, hopefully the new Pirate Warriors will be good.
What I hate about this game is the laziness pure and simple. They couldn't be arsed with cut scenes, couldn't be assed to update older characters movesets, no colour palette editing which I really liked in wo3u, the elite characters aren't even relevant to the stage, The choice of characters for the edification and small number of them, wasting the opportunity to implement sophitia and achilles into the story, no unlockavle costumes, the serious lack of maps, lack of orochi, important characters being camp upgrades instead of being implemented into the story such as kyubi instead of shitty boring level plots, no English dub and misspelling lol, I personally hate the monsters they're just a boring fucking way of making you use magic, Infinity mode is inferior to gauntlet IMO, the disregard of Western fans in favour of Japanese audience... I could go on. This is just passable compared to the awesomeness of its previous entry. I told my fiancee how much I looove w93u but we only have a switch which it's not available on so I play this game and my fiancee is a bit confused like this game is a bit lazy isn't it, I feel silly trying to defend the orochi games like "no its just this one that's shit, I swear" lmao.
Omega Force have become extremely lazy when it comes to games in the Dynasty, Samurai and Orochi series. They're too busy with other IPs like Persona and One Piece.
Yeah I wish Orochi was in the story more I know he’s been killed 10 times over but fuck it bring him back and buff the shit out of him miss the Orochi we had in WO2
Really wish we had gotten the option to use older costumes in this one. I cry myself to sleep every night knowing I can't use Aya's SW3 costume with the hood in WO4. :(
I dunno... I played WO4U a lot, especially in Infinity Mode, and the enemy soldiers (specifically in the 13th tower) sometimes catch me off guard whenever I try to escape the stage after finishing the mission. I get that they are a little slow to react, but they can still wreck you whenever you're not focused and you left two or three pawns alive after comboing their group's asses. So for me, it's a little stretching it when you say the enemies are just standing there. Maybe it's the fast paced gameplay that kinda ruins everything when you realize the enemies attack slow. I dunno..
@@juilliarddeleon7617 their infinity mode still fun to play but their story mode evem i play it on pandemonium its not that hard they're just upgrade the hp and attack A LITTLE from chaotic and add Hundun. Yeah just like that. Not really different from chaotic difficulty.
Well that's a shame. Here I thought taking close to a year hiatus from making any Warriors game would allow Omega force some breathing room. I guess not.
I agree with most of this review. I like the game, but it very lame. Definitely a bunch of content that should have been a free update. Make DLC of the story missions and Gauntlet , rest should have just been an update.
Dam...Here's my thoughts... 1.) You essentially spoke what we the hardcore/niche players thought. Koei's quality has dramatically dipped and it clearly seems they don't care. It's pretty foul and INSANE that this game is $60 on amazon/gamestop right now in the west. It really hurts cuz I love Koei's games... 2.) The changes from WO3 to WO3U were significant. and that alone was $40. How the faq is WO4U gonna be $60? Insane Koei.....Whoever is in charge of their marketing thinking is horrible. I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY KOEI but for THE LOVE MY POOP GIVE ME QUALITY BACK! 3.) I know you didn't mention it but how is the OST? Any new ones or are they just remixing all the old ones and being lazy. Still good imo but lazy............ 4.) The story was ok to me honestly but after comparing it to WO3U...Yea you're right...They literally made orochi a side bitch and I can't stand it lol. Why would u not add the Dw9 / Sw Sanada characters? I feel like they concentrated too much on the gods and their "OP" attacks and movesets which I don't care about. I want the DW/SW peeps! I'm okay with Joan of Arc, Ryu, and Achilles I guess...I do miss my girl Momiji....but the main focus should have always been OROCHI..God I'm fustrated.. 5.) The last good koei game imo was what? Sw sanada. (Only $40) Cheap and the story was touching and good. New characters was well. Like what happened? Come on Koei I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY! 6.) Was there any VS mode? Not that it matters at this point.................... Sorry for the rant. I love this series alot. Along with DW and SW. I can literally teach the entire story if i wanted to lmao. It's seriously frustrating because Monster Hunter is prob the only game I equally love as much as this...aka I have no other games I play other than hack and slashes
Btw, I not like how they give a time rank in gamr like this. Make us player rush things out. It supposed to be combo ank and kill rank. If there a WO5. I want it set on mystic wars. Just go crazy. Make many character appear from any franchise I dont care. Mystics and gods needs to fleshed out as well. I want a story when this two world emerge and story is about them. The DW meet SW without any gods or interuption. I mean, make scenario if they actually want rule china and japan.
I agree with you on the difficulty level of the game. Getting one shot or one shoting enemies is not raising the difficulty. I find it to be lazy tbh. They should just make the AI more active the harder the difficulty.
Honestly I feel the stages from warrior orochi 3 was so much more appealing a long with their plot being much more interesting with characters dying and then being saved by time traveling to change their destiny. And orochi warrior 4 feels so cheap and so uninspired. I want to play orochi warrior 3 ultimate but again but I have so difficulties to play it again. First off release orochi warrior 3 ultimate In switch in the us please so I can understand the plot again. Because all they got to do it copy and past text for us to enjoy it a little more.
honestly watcting this just makes want to rebuy Warriors orochi 2 (which is actually expansion to the original) not trying to be contrarian or twat, but after playing vannila at launch and encountering many small annoying stuff like U.I and The unbalanced roster just but me off and made me quit early on, i might plan to pick this on big sale
I want Warriors Orochi Z (which combined the first two games but for some reason never left Japan) and Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate to both come to Steam.
@@Knightphall there is PC version but also in japanese but there is apearently english patch m.facebook.com/MusouOrochiZPC/photos/a.1415601088663834/1468424053381537/?type=3
The musou crossover games have only been getting better and better with the likes of hyrule warriors and pirate warriors But it's sad to see the core series suffer so much Wo3u is my favorite musou game of all time and my personal pick for the best musou game ever So it sucks to see that the sequel is so pathetic
I preordered it for flashy OP fun I just wanna see the unique magic on my TV even if it will look shit compared to whatever rigs youtubers have. Feels fucking lame watching a compilation multiple times of moves I'm not even inputting. That aside your voice is breathtaking and 25 minutes of it informing the people of what their money gets them? Marvelous.
WO4 and Ultimate just exist to give the fans some classic musou after the whole DW9 mess. It has so little effort put into it it's astounding. One of the most efficient and expertly done assets flips I know. There is barely any new work done here. 90% of the content is recycled. The ultimate expansions really shows that by how little they've actually added. Well, it's still classic musou in which you can waste a ton of hours. So that's that. It's enough for some. But it's obvious this entire thing was just to fill the whole in the current Koei catalogue. DW9 was an ambitious disaster and after it's reception the development for Samurai Warriors 5 probably did a complete 180 and is still some time away. So here's a quick and rushed game to tide people over.
I agree, but I wouldn't call DW9 "an ambitious disaster" If it was Ambitious it would have effort put in, it's a clear cash in on a once popular genre. They probably knew it was going to be awful considering how poor the english dubs are, I mean why would they waste money on professionals when they can cut corners on an already rushed a poor effort mess. That's how I see it anyway
I always watch your reviews before buying a new musou game, it takes some courage on your part to put out a negative opinion that is rational and objective. Thanks for warning us.. it really does feel like KOEI has lost some passion. The only future release I have some expectations for at this point is Pirate Warriors 4
Thank you for the review! :) It's good to find a warrios youtuber who can sum up the facts of the game, giving the details and not hating on i without reason. :)
This is just about the only current-gen Orochi game on PC, they don't have much of a choice. It just feels like an upgrade of Orochi 1 on PC so yeah, just fine enough.
Just 3 guest??? In WO3U you sophitia, momiji, ayane, sterkburg, nenma, and so many more. How can Koei slack on guest when they have so many games they could have pulled from?
Sophitia is Bamco property, remember when Harada made jokes about quests to implement some char like Tifa or so? "I have to be friend with Uematsu then with Square Enix to get Tifa, etc" That is the exact same thing for our Koei Roster. To even have a chance to get Guan Yu in Soul Calibur or Tekken, Bamco and Omega Force/Koei should be friends in the first place 😅
I personally love this game, but it does have some issues.. It's really difficult to make a storyline work when you are combining so many different worlds together. So i dont hold the ridiculoua story against them. I have noticed a couple of bugs, however, like how enemies will sometimes appear on my map but will be invisible to me. Sometimes, I have to leave the area and come back, then they will be there. Thankfully, it doesn't happen very often. It had been some years since I had played one of these games, and i noticed some differences. The soldiers are not as aggressive. They are practically harmless except to break your combo if you're not a power character. I seem to remember opposing soldiers and generals blocking more often. In WO4U, even on "Pandemonium" difficulty, I can stand in the middle of a large group of soldiers and not have to worry about dying. Its very inactive in tbat regard. I do love the Greek gods and the Orochi X character. I'm not up to date on all the politics going on with the company that makes the game. I hope they get their heads out of their butts, because it would be a shame to see such a great franchise go downhill.
@@freelanceart1019 got both of them, but I didnt enjoyed the God of War to much. The problem for me was too much story not much killing also there combat/gameplay wasnt so much fun compared to God of War 3s combos (at least for me). Borderlands 3 apart from those 2 main antagonist which didnt bother me so much I enjoyed that game.
@@budlikycz2445 Wait for PS 5 if you have a PC don't get a console. I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne and it was awesome, after that i bought a bunch of exclusives and the only other one i kinda liked was Spiderman but even that wasn't that great. The only purpose my PS 4 has now is netflix.
"They are called NInja Gaiden" Not anymore, current zeitgeist is people hating on Ninja Gaiden because it doesn't have lock-on and the camera is apparently a super problem that makes it unplayable and how dare Team Ninja not make Nioh earlier. People's opinions nowadays are like Dynasty Warriors 9 and Warriors Orochi 4 : disappointing and terrible. Of course, that doesn't include those who liked Ninja Gaiden ever since thy came out on the XBOX.
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 It's not even all the Nioh players that love to bash the older games, just those who migrated from the Souls games because they are under the impression that just because it kinda looks like Souls, it must play like Souls bro? "Why don't you super buff status ailments and do bullshit gimmicks Tecmo? Do you hate your players? Why is there a skill tree with useless skils like the Ki Pulses, jsut make it a stamina bar bro" fucking hell.
I used to like this series but the way it will be going soon it will reach the breaking point t's a lot of recycled stuff, they didn't even bother to use Hayabusa DOA 6 Model Koei now going full China mode.
I dont know,ive been a fan of warrior games since Dynasty 3, and i think the last genuinely good games from the company were Samurai Warriors 2 and DW 7, Orochi 3 was good but other recent games like DW8, 9, SW 4 and this are bad, to say the least
They made the soldiers to easy to kill, which makes it not feel as rewarding when you get so many kills. In the older games it was a chore to get 1000 kills.
I disliked the story in this. Its warriors Orochi. Orochi. Then they just go "Oh hey here's some random asshole so strong the people who beat Orochi need to borrow power from bracelets to stand any chance at all (completely ******* on the themes of the first two games of humans beating superpowered beings via teamwork)". But then also "Btw we need Orochis power to make the tree biggerer because only he's strong enough". So he's stronger than any of the gods in this, including hades and odin. They need him specifically because he's stronger. Why wasn't a god bracelet needed to beat him then? What about that guy they retconned into being the dude who merged the worlds in 3U (which itself was a dumb retcon that just made Orochi look worse). Orochi apparently used that guys power to merge worlds so Orochi is < that random dude, but > Zeus, who is < Hades and Odin, but Zeus remade the world. It makes no sense. Its inconstent, craps on both the main theme and main villain and the entire thing feels pointless. Its literally just random new characters out of nowhere being jerks for no reason.
Warriors Orochi 3 and Ultimate have a Better Story Line than This Game. That Dude was Orochi X who in Warriors Orochi 3 Is Orochi's Own Power I think. The Game Confirmed that wasn't Even Orochi Himself.
I have it for PS4 but next time the Switch version is on sale I will get it again. Having all the dlc included will be a great bonus and excuse to play it again.
@@theglamorousgamingmisfit6010 That's the same thing I did, haha. I mostly played on PS4 and enjoyed the visuals and some of the trophies. It looks a lot better on there. Switch version was fun to go back into with the boatload of DLC costumes and weapons.
I like this game because of the OP characters (like Athena). She just destroys everything and very fast. And I dislike this game because after I've played OP characters (like Athena). After playing her (for example) other "usual" characters feels too weak.:(
I think i skip this , original kinda made me bored. AND i love the idea of killing/beat up People , creatures....meh lol, yeah i have problems with most people , killing/ beat up hoards of humans effortlessly , calms me , lol.
I had thoughts that this expansion wouldn't add any substantial content prior to its release and thanks to this video those thoughts were confirmed, because of that I'll get it once it goes for really cheap.
Actually it's an injoyable game. I got the game and love it. I did not get the original warrior's orochi 4 and waited for the ultimate version and did not regret it at all.
I'm sorry but as a newcommer i just cannot play WO3, how close the camera is hurts my eyes, and the overal movement of characters feels bad, but WO4 looks waay better, i don't know if the content would keep me playing 3 if the gameplay is not good compared to 4....
I like both ultimate versions of warriors 3 and 4, but if i must choose only one of them, it would be warriors orochi 3 U, it´s still one of the best warriors games of all time!!
Thank you for this, will be getting the upgrade pack on steam. Agreed this is literally a big patch but it does transform the game into what I wanted in the first place. I didnt really play WO4 due to the headache inducing character menu and overall sense of laziness. Koei got me again as a fan, urghhh 4 additional stages? that is a real buzzkill :(
ive played wo4u and i felt like it was a major step backwards from wo3u i would pay for wo5 or wo5u if it has the same amount of content as 3u and the character rosters from 3u + 4u
The only thing that had me excited for this game was Hades. And if there was an adjustment on the range. But I don't see much improvement so I'm gonna wait a while till the price for the upgrade drops.
Fairly certain I can rebuke all of this review's dislike towards the game WO4U but it'll take a few massive long para posts to explain so gimme some time.
Your thumbnail says "waste of time" but aren't all games a waste of time? Isn't it a subjective concept anyways? Idk, your video makes the game look fun. It seems your issues come from prior history with the series, like those issues wouldn't be issues in a vacuum. I've never played an Orochi game and some of the other issues you highlighted are holdovers from Samurai Warriors 4-II and simplifications from Dynasty Warriors 8 Extreme Legends. I like both of those and Extreme Legends 8 could've used some simplifications. The Greek pantheon and heroes are a selling point for me over Orochi 3 as well as the better visuals. They are both currently on sale so I've been watching videos to make up my mind. Yours is the most negative I've seen. Most people say 3 Ultimate is better than 4 Ultimate but most still recommend 4 Ultimate. I think I'll get 4 Ultimate today and maybe down the line 3 Ultimate if it drops more in price. I think $30 for a game that looks mid-gen PS3 is too much.
Hey guys I wants to know is there a big difference between the Warriors Orochi 4 Deluxe Edition and the Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate Deluxe edition? I'm only seeing like a price difference, but in my mind 4 Ultimate Deluxe comes with everything the 1st does plus extra
Jeanne and Achilles (to the extent that he was likely based off a real person) always made sense to me in this game as they were both historical characters. Ryu and the DoA gang never did.
I'm playing this game only for 8 hours than drop it, then back to play orochi ultimate 3... This worst orochi in the whole series, with really lack of content, lazy story mode (only show potrait not 3d character)... I hope they fix in the next orochi series: 1. We can build camp like on Dynasty Warrior 8 extreme legends/orochi 3 2. We can make own character creation on orochi series 3. Good story with good cutscene not just using 2D potrait 4. Good amount of content 5. We can equip support item 6. Conquest mode on orochi series
Remember when KT/Tecmo actually cared bout their Warriors franchise? I remember, also REEEEEEEEEEEEE DW Gundam Reborn and Fist of the North Star Ken's Rage 2 never goes on sale lol
Executive Data7 dont you dare bring up Gundam DW near me man, I feel horrible in that I’m unable to play it on any consoles I currently have, so I’m only left with my memories of the game until I manage to get an old one back or when they make a new one. TBH i don’t even care if it’s trash or a remaster, anything from that series will do for me in a new release.
@@Halcypian I'm more upset that there's never any sales for DW Gundam or Ken's Rage 2, doesn't help both where digital only in North America on ps3, xbox360 got physical copies. You can get a pal physical copy but good luck finding a cheap one, Japanese copies are fairly cheap tho
I heard some people said that Koei doesn't do it because it will separate their Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors game empire sources. I would like them to add assistance and other elements like Dynasty Warriors 8 empires.
Appreciate your videos I know you care about this genre a lot and I like how your not bias you tell it like it is glad I didn't get this I was so disappointed with 9 orochi 4 was a good pallette cleanser but was no where near as good as 3 I'm hoping we get another basara game but I doubt it at this point
I had hopes for this game cause i loved WO3U the only thing i wished on that game was the DW8XL characters in. I really only played this cause out of love for Lu Lingqi but its been hard to put time into the game cause of how boring and lackluster everything is
Oh so you actually get a cutscene after finding all of the Perseus’ fragments, that’s neat, and here I thought they got cancelled from this game, I almost feel sad for not having bothered enough 😂
For me , the most upseting thing is that they sell old quest characters (with the same moveset) as new "returning" ones AND the fact that they use the same damn weapon skin for every tier you can aquire in the game, just to sell the DW8 and SW4 weapon DLC packs AGAIN. WTF KOEI?! Honestly, how can they not see that if you keep recycle things no one gonna buy it
who knows maybe they will make a samurai warriors orochi 5 ultimate and this time they will add in Hercules along with theseus and all the other 12 god of olympis and the other gods of Chinese, Norse and Japanese mythology will be in the next orochi game to
I am sure not to buy this game, WO4 was already disappointing and this ultimate version is too expensive for what it offers, the absence of the Ninja Gaiden characters is ridiculous. Honestly I prefer Samurai Warriors 4 and Spirit of Sanada which are much better.
To this day I still play wo3 ultimate but 4 has been a disappointment for me, I thought that since it would be a new generation and at the end when all the engines are already developed and could have changed to a more powerful one to improve the AI it has been very disappointing. I love the WARRIORS saga but I'm going to play this one until I modify my ps4. because it's not worth buying.
I wasn't a particular fan of WO3's story but the gameplay was still solid. I just hated how they reset all the characters' involvement with each other that was built up over the original WO and WO2. WO4 just sounds like the worst direction they could have gone with it on top of that.
Exactly. That put me off right near the beginning of the story. Instead of seeing them interact with characters they gained a bond with in the previous game, they went with the "I don't remember what happened" excuse. And the characters they interact with in the camp just seems random.
Very fine detailed review your commentary is absolutely hilarious. I feel your pain they are very lazy when it comes to games as of lately. They have such a great franchise I don't know why they don't realize it. It could be bigger than it is. But I probably still will buy the expansion upgrade. I'm the type of gamer that has a love-hate relationship with this game. But overall thank you so much for your excellent review it is well noted.
i mean in this point on, i would prefer getting a SW2/DW5/WO2 remastered then getting unpolished, pathetic, god level annoying that ruin the franchise itself (WO4 and the U version, DW9)
Ofc if Diao Chan at 9 stars and max leveled, she will pretty much one shot almost everything(Both Orochi versions included), but so as Zhuge Liang or even the worst character of the game Sanzang. The major difference is how fast they will complete a stage, and in this field, everyone is different(until last max level possible, at least). For the S rank completion, your point is delusional since the harder difficulty you play, the least requirements are to get the S rank. For example, i played Zuo Ci in Pandemonium difficulty in Chapter 7 stage bonus 1 at only lvl 85 with no stars and 5 star unique weapon with 0 compatibility and 8 slots , with Ying Long and Yue Ying at barely lvl 90 but 5th weapon too with max compatibility. The first time i made it was 9min and 56 sec with only 932 kill count. Ofc in easy difficulty you should be at least with 3000 kc and under more or less 12 minutes to complete. Not sure if they added Alpha 152( the Kasumi gamma fluid clone, don't remember the exact numbers)you would get the WO4. But they added Ayane for obvious fan service(bro, we're talking about KOEI TECMO, this is literally their main line up as well) so as Hayabusa and Achilles. You just look you want to cook Koei for their service and content, but you use the poorest features to turn it at your advantage in your argumentation. Sounds very ungratful, to me. But i could be mistaken. It's too bad to here this from a YT creator because I've got the game from a month and honestly, i enjoy it really well. The very first Warriors Orochi is FAN SERVICE! However, you gave many arguments to also play WO3 as well as WO4. Pretty sure i will enjoy both. So even my salty ahh wants to thank you for the review😅
The real pain isn't that game, the real pain was the requirements for the old game to get 5th weapons. At least in DW3XL, weapons were fixed when you did complete requirements. In the very first SWXL, the weapon supply unit could vanish for good if you didn't check log and track it well, especially if you didn't unlock Red Hare/Matsukaze, the other mounts lmfao😅. Even Xuzhu/Goemon Ishikawa were quicker with speedx2😂
I look at this WO3 the same way I do an anime movie it has big steaks and a powerful enemy but, at the end of the day it’s nowhere near as impactful as what’s going on in the show. This game has a whole Lotta potential but, they refused to take it to the next step. If they wanted to go with the more western gods they should’ve went all in and had more unique characters. Odin and Loki shouldn’t be the only as guardian Gods, Zeus Athena and Ares shouldn’t be the only gods from Olympus. The whole idea with the bracelets and only having certain characters get transformations was dumb. They should’ve just updated the strikeforce uniforms and gave everyone else transformations and gone from there. They need to move away from Orochi, since this game really didn’t need him and they just tried to squeeze him in. It should have been the Asgardian gods vs. The Olympian gods with the cast choosing the side.
Ok, dead ass.....this will be my first samurai/dynasty warriors game. And after looking at some of this video, I'm at a loss. Should I get as my first game warriors oroochi 3 ultimate or wait till warrior orochi 4 ultimate to drop? Is 3 ultimate that good and was 4 such a disappointment? Is 4 worth getting in any form?
It's hard to say as I've been a longtime fan of 'Warriors' games so I've played nearly all of them. Most if not all of the dissapointment in this game comes from that. So as a new fan you might enjoy it. But personally I'd rather set myself on fire than play any more of this game. I'd recommend pretty much any other warriors game over this. DW8XL Samurai Warriors 4 or Spirit of Sanada Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate
I'm maybe a bit late to the party but I would like to ask my question anyways. Most of your points seem to come from a person who already played Orochi 4 and is not satisfied with the Ultimate version? What is fair when there is not that much new content added. But how would you rate the game to someone like me, who just seen it on steam and thinks about getting it? I've never played any of these games before (well, I did play Hyrule Warrior for a looooong time and this looked more like that)
Yeah this game is such a disappointment. The story barely does anything with the Orochi and Mystic characters, including Orochi himself. It’s all centered around Odin and Zeus. The rest of the cast feels like they’re also just there to exist. After a while of gameplay, the magic weapons feels so gimmicky since there are only like 15 divided among a huge cast of characters. Those giant monsters also don’t help, they slow down the pace of the game to a crawl. On top of all of that, the game feels so lazy with all it’s clunky menus and character icon conversations. I miss walking around camp. The fact the base game doesn’t have the proper character select is also really embarrassing.
Yeah I feel like I got robbed with ultimate. I would of loved the addition if they added past dynasty warriors moveset to spice the game a bit more. Same with samurai warriors with those moveset, was hoping to see adult yukimura's moveset from sw4 sanada.
The warriors orochi 3 ultimate is still better on this sorry But i must say the samurai warriors skill set here like hyper attacks is better and i forgot to use dynasty warriors already but gameplay wise and character wise the previous warriors orochi 3 is better Besides the upgrade is really expensive
"Samurai Warriors 4 hyper attacks removes difficulty and destroys players' urge to be better, and destroys the sense of mastery" I've never seen anything as cringe inducing as this statement here
Such a shame this game is a total flop and WO3U was so amazing 😕 I’m probably still gonna buy it because I love the series but will probably end up going back to the last one for an actual challenge. Let’s hope Persona scramble will satisfy our musou needs this year instead!
I don't know what's going on with Koei these days. I think they're focusing more on their licensed Musou games instead of their original IP ones. I liked WO4, but anyone with a brain knows that WO3 was better. And the fact that we're getting crossover characters again is proof of just how much Warriors All-Stars failed. Sure, WO4 is better than All-Stars, but WO3 is better than WO4. I think they stopped caring somewhere along the way. Koei did try to change it up, but then we got Dynasty Warriors 9. And I rather play ANY Musou game over that game. So I think they are lost. They don't want to go back (or they can't or don't know how to) and there isn't anything for them going forward. I say they need a fresh restart without throwing out the baby with the bathtub. Go back to the old formula and evolve it. And they need to stop re-using content 1 for 1. DW10, SW5 and the next Warriors Orochi should all use new (or retouched) assets. And just abandon the idea of Warriors All-Stars and merge that into the Orochi series.
@@freelanceart1019 I'm curious to what you mean by they "do not deserve the IP". KT doesn't own the entire story of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", which Dynasty Warriors is just their retelling and interpretation of the story. Other companies are totally free to make games based on Romance. I'm assuming you know, but Sega has their own telling in "Total War: The Three Kingdoms" and that game is amazing. It's just a tactical game and not an Action Adventure Beat 'em up. And I definitely think Capcom could do well with it. Sengoku Basara shows an alternate take on what KT has done with Samurai Warriors. I'd love to see Capcom do a RoTK game like Sengoku Basara. See how that does. I prefer KT's Samurai Warriors over Sengoku Basara, but I think Samurai Warriors is better than Dynasty Warriors because Samurai Warriors has competition from Sengoku Basara. With there being direct competition, neither Koei nor Capcom can afford to slouch. This is also what happens with Sega's Total War: Three Kingdoms and Koei's strategical take on Dyansty Warriors, "Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV" (the number changes with each installation.) Because both games are similar in many ways, competition feeds growth, so neither game can slack, less the other dominate the field. But alas, there is no other game to directly compete with Dynasty Warriors... or Warriors Orochi. So until that happens or Koei Tecmo has a change of heart... they're not being forced to improve these games.
I just dont understand what happened? How are your previous installments better than your new ones? Why dont they give a fuck anymore is what I really want to know.
Because fans are complaisant with the state these games come out in, why would Koei put any effort in when the fans will buy it and defend it even if it’s not good. Dynasty Warriors 9 is a good example of how fans will buy and defend a poorly produced game
Maybe, They'll always have fans that shill for a buy the games regardless. But the lazier they get the more (and I hate to use this phrase) casual fans will stop buying them and lets be honest they (casuals) make up the bulk of any game sales. It doesn't help that the PR people for Koei seem to dislike their facebook fans as they once stated on their discord something to the effect of 'Prefering twitter over facebook because the fans aren't as aggressive to how bad the games are' lol
Me and my cousins love drinking and playing this game it's simple we like using combos or to kill a whole army for fun this game did that then we would play in the hardest level and. See who would die first it was dope.
Now the bs thing is that I just bought it's update and upgrade pack. And I have the game along disk in the ps4, after a long time downloading and spending money I earned nothing!!! I can't upgrade by the stupid excuse of can't find the game!!! Even I had the save file of DW9 for the costumes is also unable to redeem!!! So Koei wants to destroy the trust I gave them since childhood?! I'm willing to pay it's because I like it!!! Now I'm completely stuck with the game being just the previous version, wasted my dw9 safe files!!! Along with a few add ons I've paid and download!!! Pay for deluxe edition to upgrade my ass!!! I'm not US player! I'm Malaysian player!!! You think I'm rich to afford another?! Geez Game companies nowadays had no dignity!!!
Well different people have different view on wo4u to me is a good game because of the crossover dw and sw. But if u really think is bad why is ur own opinion. But most importantly don't play with people parent if u are mature what's is wrong with people these days so uncivilized
Maybe with the success of their licensed titles, Omega Force simply doesn't have enough time and manpower for their own IPs. Like those guys are pumping new musou games under different names non-stop now.
comparing wo1 and wo4u I see massive difference in how difficult have changed. In first game you could have died in any second and officers and normal soldiers were alot more agressive. You always needed to aproach enemy with avernes ,even max lvl on chaos. 4 game is just cheap massive damage trick. Its not hard, truying to deceve you that is hard. Just saying
Koei have now posted a Survey for this fucking mess, so post your feelings for it there (I doubt they'll take note considering their business practices with Dead or Alive 6)
EU: www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo4u_eu
NA: www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo4u_na
Rip DoA6, like who da fuck charges people to change hair colors
They thought their fluidity graphics as what their fanbase is claiming can beat tekken 7 and mk11 but sorry doa6 is not that good enough
Doa5 is better compare to doa6 but not even close with tekken 7 and mk11 sorry koei even if they guest all KOF still bland and lacking
The storyline is meh
I gave them poor rating almost in everything
Charging of dlc is not worth it
They just added less than 10 new characters and the weapons is meh
I personally like the story, I find it interesting how they added Norse and Greek mythology along with the Japanese and Chinese mythology. The ost’s were really nice too. It’s not as god tier as Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, but I think if the Warriors Orochi series wants to improve, they need to improve the AI function. Make it harder.
Medusa should have been the final boss really, instead of just a source for the amulets. Keeps with the snake theme of the other games. Orochi > Hydra > Medusa.
I’d enjoy the story more if it had more cutscenes and was in English man
warrior orochi 3 is the best i think i play wo 4 and get to sleep
I injoyed the game as well it's really good.
But I realize a good game is like a good movie it's subjective.
@@TheDjd111 The only problem the game had to me was it's not in English so I can see why that would bother you.
But the game over all was fun.
I’m also annoyed by how when we pick the elite characters, most of the time they aren’t even included in the scenario. That’s how scripted the damn game is.
Apparently Koei thinks it's 2004 and you can't patch in updates. They instead just release a new version of the game
I still play WO3U to this day. It's a great game. I'll never understand the die-hard fanbase either. Getting on you for simply speaking the truth is a joke. I love Koei as well, but what they have done recently is just brain dead trash. I've loved the Warriors franchise since I was younger with DW2. Koei has gotten beyond lazy now. It kills me to say that. It's such a damn shame. Thanks again for another great review. Always look forward to you your uploads.
Thanks! Tbh the fanbase has always attacked me for criticizing any aspect of the games, their loss if they want to waste moeny on this crap lol
I still might get the DLC for this game, I just want to beat the crap out of enemies on this game. At least we can now get Weapon X for the characters. But wish they would put back the gold attribute for the whirlwind. This is needed for characters that use hand to hand combat or short range weapons.
@@SexGravy Thank you for always doing these great reviews! Exactly. They can waste all their money to further the cancer that Koei is sadly becoming. The truth hurts they say, they just have to realize it. I'm going back into Gauntlet Mode!
Same i still play it too.
PREEEEEEEACH MY DUDE PREACH
I don't think you're being negative. I think you're like me, someone who played since near the beginning and just feel sad that this is all we've got. After for honor came out years ago, I was hoping they would meet them somewhere in the middle and innovate the gameplay mechanics. Sadly no it's exactly the same.
I think the people who are getting mad at him are newer fans.
Claymore007 I got in on DW8XL and tbh this review has gotten me weary enough to not play this game, I want to play WO3U but since I want it specifically on Switch, I have to deal with no eng subs since I’d have to buy a Japanese release due to a lack of an American/European release.
@@Halcypian Exactly. Don't see why it couldn't have gotten a digital release.
To be honest, I've been playing dw8e for the last 2 weeks and started playing wo4u (I 100% wo4 when it came out) today and something felt off, like I was getting bored or something, no idea, hopefully the new Pirate Warriors will be good.
‘They seem to thing difficulty is getting one shot for some unknown reason.’ 90% of my deaths.
Getting one shot by in gauntlet mode even though I’ll have max stats and op builds
What I hate about this game is the laziness pure and simple. They couldn't be arsed with cut scenes, couldn't be assed to update older characters movesets, no colour palette editing which I really liked in wo3u, the elite characters aren't even relevant to the stage,
The choice of characters for the edification and small number of them, wasting the opportunity to implement sophitia and achilles into the story, no unlockavle costumes, the serious lack of maps, lack of orochi, important characters being camp upgrades instead of being implemented into the story such as kyubi instead of shitty boring level plots, no English dub and misspelling lol, I personally hate the monsters they're just a boring fucking way of making you use magic,
Infinity mode is inferior to gauntlet IMO, the disregard of Western fans in favour of Japanese audience... I could go on. This is just passable compared to the awesomeness of its previous entry. I told my fiancee how much I looove w93u but we only have a switch which it's not available on so I play this game and my fiancee is a bit confused like this game is a bit lazy isn't it, I feel silly trying to defend the orochi games like "no its just this one that's shit, I swear" lmao.
Omega Force have become extremely lazy when it comes to games in the Dynasty, Samurai and Orochi series. They're too busy with other IPs like Persona and One Piece.
Yeah I wish Orochi was in the story more I know he’s been killed 10 times over but fuck it bring him back and buff the shit out of him miss the Orochi we had in WO2
Really wish we had gotten the option to use older costumes in this one.
I cry myself to sleep every night knowing I can't use Aya's SW3 costume with the hood in WO4. :(
Oh well, there is always Warriors Orochi 2 or Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate to play.
Besides general officers, the enemy soldiers are literally standing there like target dummies, which is both annoying and immersion breaking...
They're just...there :/
I dunno... I played WO4U a lot, especially in Infinity Mode, and the enemy soldiers (specifically in the 13th tower) sometimes catch me off guard whenever I try to escape the stage after finishing the mission. I get that they are a little slow to react, but they can still wreck you whenever you're not focused and you left two or three pawns alive after comboing their group's asses. So for me, it's a little stretching it when you say the enemies are just standing there. Maybe it's the fast paced gameplay that kinda ruins everything when you realize the enemies attack slow. I dunno..
@@juilliarddeleon7617 their infinity mode still fun to play but their story mode evem i play it on pandemonium its not that hard they're just upgrade the hp and attack A LITTLE from chaotic and add Hundun. Yeah just like that. Not really different from chaotic difficulty.
WARRIORS OROCHI 4(2018) is basicaly WARRIORS OROCHI 1(2007) reskined. I am amazed that is selling on STEAM with 70 EUROS.
Well that's a shame. Here I thought taking close to a year hiatus from making any Warriors game would allow Omega force some breathing room. I guess not.
I agree with most of this review. I like the game, but it very lame. Definitely a bunch of content that should have been a free update. Make DLC of the story missions and Gauntlet , rest should have just been an update.
Dam...Here's my thoughts...
1.) You essentially spoke what we the hardcore/niche players thought. Koei's quality has dramatically dipped and it clearly seems they don't care. It's pretty foul and INSANE that this game is $60 on amazon/gamestop right now in the west. It really hurts cuz I love Koei's games...
2.) The changes from WO3 to WO3U were significant. and that alone was $40. How the faq is WO4U gonna be $60? Insane Koei.....Whoever is in charge of their marketing thinking is horrible. I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY KOEI but for THE LOVE MY POOP GIVE ME QUALITY BACK!
3.) I know you didn't mention it but how is the OST? Any new ones or are they just remixing all the old ones and being lazy. Still good imo but lazy............
4.) The story was ok to me honestly but after comparing it to WO3U...Yea you're right...They literally made orochi a side bitch and I can't stand it lol. Why would u not add the Dw9 / Sw Sanada characters? I feel like they concentrated too much on the gods and their "OP" attacks and movesets which I don't care about. I want the DW/SW peeps! I'm okay with Joan of Arc, Ryu, and Achilles I guess...I do miss my girl Momiji....but the main focus should have always been OROCHI..God I'm fustrated..
5.) The last good koei game imo was what? Sw sanada. (Only $40) Cheap and the story was touching and good. New characters was well. Like what happened? Come on Koei I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY!
6.) Was there any VS mode? Not that it matters at this point....................
Sorry for the rant. I love this series alot. Along with DW and SW. I can literally teach the entire story if i wanted to lmao. It's seriously frustrating because Monster Hunter is prob the only game I equally love as much as this...aka I have no other games I play other than hack and slashes
you can buy a 40 bucks dlc upgrade pack so that makes it a little better
daan rook i like the artbook cover and i thought it would like monster hunter icbourne or wo3u where it was $40.... nope haha
@@wrenchguy2937 oke i dont think we wil ever get a iceborn for a warriors game wich is sad as iceborn is great
Btw,
I not like how they give a time rank in gamr like this. Make us player rush things out. It supposed to be combo ank and kill rank.
If there a WO5. I want it set on mystic wars. Just go crazy. Make many character appear from any franchise I dont care. Mystics and gods needs to fleshed out as well.
I want a story when this two world emerge and story is about them. The DW meet SW without any gods or interuption.
I mean, make scenario if they actually want rule china and japan.
Koei long lost there way when Tecmo bought them out.
I agree with you on the difficulty level of the game. Getting one shot or one shoting enemies is not raising the difficulty. I find it to be lazy tbh. They should just make the AI more active the harder the difficulty.
Laziness defines Koei these days
Trust me… they are… at least the samurai warriors are. It’s a pain to do any attack with ANY starting lag if you’re not a power type.
Im ready for Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate!
It's out all ready I have just about beaten infinity mode.
I already beat story mode.
@@shanestrickland5006 Yeah me too
@@secretprotagonist6241 It's a fun game or at least I like it.
But I have just about beaten everything on the game.
Good review! I've been a follower of your channel the last 2 years. Your reviews and commentary got me into playing DW ans SW games.
Thank You Very Much
In other words: skip and keep playing 3. Got it.
Knightphall more agree WO 3, WO4 is really dissapointed
Bro I’ve played 3 like 20 times now I’m dying over here lol
dylan carters WO4 has the short story line rather than WO4 ultimat, who has released this february
Honestly I feel the stages from warrior orochi 3 was so much more appealing a long with their plot being much more interesting with characters dying and then being saved by time traveling to change their destiny. And orochi warrior 4 feels so cheap and so uninspired. I want to play orochi warrior 3 ultimate but again but I have so difficulties to play it again. First off release orochi warrior 3 ultimate In switch in the us please so I can understand the plot again. Because all they got to do it copy and past text for us to enjoy it a little more.
honestly watcting this just makes want to rebuy Warriors orochi 2 (which is actually expansion to the original)
not trying to be contrarian or twat, but after playing vannila at launch and encountering many small annoying stuff like U.I and The unbalanced roster just but me off and made me quit early on, i might plan to pick this on big sale
I want Warriors Orochi Z (which combined the first two games but for some reason never left Japan) and Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate to both come to Steam.
@@Knightphall there is PC version but also in japanese
but there is apearently english patch m.facebook.com/MusouOrochiZPC/photos/a.1415601088663834/1468424053381537/?type=3
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 Let me put it this way,: if Z and 3 came to Steam? I'd cry.
The musou crossover games have only been getting better and better with the likes of hyrule warriors and pirate warriors
But it's sad to see the core series suffer so much
Wo3u is my favorite musou game of all time and my personal pick for the best musou game ever
So it sucks to see that the sequel is so pathetic
I preordered it for flashy OP fun
I just wanna see the unique magic on my TV even if it will look shit compared to whatever rigs youtubers have. Feels fucking lame watching a compilation multiple times of moves I'm not even inputting.
That aside your voice is breathtaking and 25 minutes of it informing the people of what their money gets them? Marvelous.
WO4 and Ultimate just exist to give the fans some classic musou after the whole DW9 mess. It has so little effort put into it it's astounding. One of the most efficient and expertly done assets flips I know. There is barely any new work done here. 90% of the content is recycled. The ultimate expansions really shows that by how little they've actually added. Well, it's still classic musou in which you can waste a ton of hours. So that's that. It's enough for some. But it's obvious this entire thing was just to fill the whole in the current Koei catalogue. DW9 was an ambitious disaster and after it's reception the development for Samurai Warriors 5 probably did a complete 180 and is still some time away. So here's a quick and rushed game to tide people over.
I agree, but I wouldn't call DW9 "an ambitious disaster" If it was Ambitious it would have effort put in, it's a clear cash in on a once popular genre. They probably knew it was going to be awful considering how poor the english dubs are, I mean why would they waste money on professionals when they can cut corners on an already rushed a poor effort mess. That's how I see it anyway
I always watch your reviews before buying a new musou game, it takes some courage on your part to put out a negative opinion that is rational and objective. Thanks for warning us.. it really does feel like KOEI has lost some passion. The only future release I have some expectations for at this point is Pirate Warriors 4
Thank you for the review! :) It's good to find a warrios youtuber who can sum up the facts of the game, giving the details and not hating on i without reason. :)
This is just about the only current-gen Orochi game on PC, they don't have much of a choice. It just feels like an upgrade of Orochi 1 on PC so yeah, just fine enough.
Just 3 guest??? In WO3U you sophitia, momiji, ayane, sterkburg, nenma, and so many more. How can Koei slack on guest when they have so many games they could have pulled from?
The Pondering Critic that or I’d like to see a Dynasty Warriors character in soul caliber. My guess is Zhou Yun, Lu Bu, or Yukimura
Sophitia is Bamco property, remember when Harada made jokes about quests to implement some char like Tifa or so? "I have to be friend with Uematsu then with Square Enix to get Tifa, etc" That is the exact same thing for our Koei Roster. To even have a chance to get Guan Yu in Soul Calibur or Tekken, Bamco and Omega Force/Koei should be friends in the first place 😅
But we're on the good way, a good proof of this is that One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 exists 😊
I personally love this game, but it does have some issues..
It's really difficult to make a storyline work when you are combining so many different worlds together. So i dont hold the ridiculoua story against them.
I have noticed a couple of bugs, however, like how enemies will sometimes appear on my map but will be invisible to me. Sometimes, I have to leave the area and come back, then they will be there. Thankfully, it doesn't happen very often.
It had been some years since I had played one of these games, and i noticed some differences. The soldiers are not as aggressive. They are practically harmless except to break your combo if you're not a power character. I seem to remember opposing soldiers and generals blocking more often. In WO4U, even on "Pandemonium" difficulty, I can stand in the middle of a large group of soldiers and not have to worry about dying. Its very inactive in tbat regard.
I do love the Greek gods and the Orochi X character. I'm not up to date on all the politics going on with the company that makes the game. I hope they get their heads out of their butts, because it would be a shame to see such a great franchise go downhill.
This game is a reason to me to MAYBE get a PS4..Well Pirate Warriors 4 Might be better..the 3rd one is FUn as hell to grind
Don't waste the money, if you're going to get a PS4 at least go for the good excusive games they made like Gravity Rush, Uncharted etc
@@SexGravy ahaha two game I didnt like at all xD actually Uncharted is scripted as hell and the gameplay is mediocre at best xD
@@freelanceart1019 got both of them, but I didnt enjoyed the God of War to much. The problem for me was too much story not much killing also there combat/gameplay wasnt so much fun compared to God of War 3s combos (at least for me). Borderlands 3 apart from those 2 main antagonist which didnt bother me so much I enjoyed that game.
@@budlikycz2445 couldn't disagree with this statement more but the scripted part i understand. Games really a playable movie.
@@budlikycz2445 Wait for PS 5 if you have a PC don't get a console. I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne and it was awesome, after that i bought a bunch of exclusives and the only other one i kinda liked was Spiderman but even that wasn't that great. The only purpose my PS 4 has now is netflix.
Holy crap, I don’t have to hunt down Hun Dun for Pandemonium anymore? Thank the gods.
"They are called NInja Gaiden"
Not anymore, current zeitgeist is people hating on Ninja Gaiden because it doesn't have lock-on and the camera is apparently a super problem that makes it unplayable and how dare Team Ninja not make Nioh earlier. People's opinions nowadays are like Dynasty Warriors 9 and Warriors Orochi 4 : disappointing and terrible.
Of course, that doesn't include those who liked Ninja Gaiden ever since thy came out on the XBOX.
Yeah, how dare games 12 years ago not have lock-on, fucking wankers.
@@SexGravy lol i thought lock on just meant toggle the camera. kids these days
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 It's not even all the Nioh players that love to bash the older games, just those who migrated from the Souls games because they are under the impression that just because it kinda looks like Souls, it must play like Souls bro? "Why don't you super buff status ailments and do bullshit gimmicks Tecmo? Do you hate your players? Why is there a skill tree with useless skils like the Ki Pulses, jsut make it a stamina bar bro" fucking hell.
Currently playing it and am loving it.
Haven't played WO3U yet, though.
I just bought that yesterday and will play it when I'm done with WO4U
I used to like this series but the way it will be going soon it will reach the breaking point
t's a lot of recycled stuff, they didn't even bother to use Hayabusa DOA 6 Model
Koei now going full China mode.
I think breaking point has been for most people. lol
I dont know,ive been a fan of warrior games since Dynasty 3, and i think the last genuinely good games from the company were Samurai Warriors 2 and DW 7, Orochi 3 was good but other recent games like DW8, 9, SW 4 and this are bad, to say the least
They made the soldiers to easy to kill, which makes it not feel as rewarding when you get so many kills. In the older games it was a chore to get 1000 kills.
I disliked the story in this. Its warriors Orochi. Orochi. Then they just go "Oh hey here's some random asshole so strong the people who beat Orochi need to borrow power from bracelets to stand any chance at all (completely ******* on the themes of the first two games of humans beating superpowered beings via teamwork)".
But then also "Btw we need Orochis power to make the tree biggerer because only he's strong enough".
So he's stronger than any of the gods in this, including hades and odin. They need him specifically because he's stronger. Why wasn't a god bracelet needed to beat him then? What about that guy they retconned into being the dude who merged the worlds in 3U (which itself was a dumb retcon that just made Orochi look worse). Orochi apparently used that guys power to merge worlds so Orochi is < that random dude, but > Zeus, who is < Hades and Odin, but Zeus remade the world. It makes no sense.
Its inconstent, craps on both the main theme and main villain and the entire thing feels pointless. Its literally just random new characters out of nowhere being jerks for no reason.
Warriors Orochi 3 and Ultimate have a Better Story Line than This Game. That Dude was Orochi X who in Warriors Orochi 3 Is Orochi's Own Power I think. The Game Confirmed that wasn't Even Orochi Himself.
Was tempted to get this since I didn't play the base game but I might just get DW8 on the Switch instead for some Musou action on the go.
You haven't played DW8? Oh, you definitely gotta get on that. Switch version has all DLC as well.
DW8XL is superior, best DW game ever tbh
I have it for PS4 but next time the Switch version is on sale I will get it again. Having all the dlc included will be a great bonus and excuse to play it again.
@@theglamorousgamingmisfit6010 That's the same thing I did, haha. I mostly played on PS4 and enjoyed the visuals and some of the trophies. It looks a lot better on there.
Switch version was fun to go back into with the boatload of DLC costumes and weapons.
I like this game because of the OP characters (like Athena). She just destroys everything and very fast.
And I dislike this game because after I've played OP characters (like Athena). After playing her (for example) other "usual" characters feels too weak.:(
I think i skip this , original kinda made me bored.
AND i love the idea of killing/beat up People , creatures....meh lol, yeah i have problems with most people ,
killing/ beat up hoards of humans effortlessly , calms me , lol.
I had thoughts that this expansion wouldn't add any substantial content prior to its release and thanks to this video those thoughts were confirmed, because of that I'll get it once it goes for really cheap.
Actually it's an injoyable game.
I got the game and love it.
I did not get the original warrior's orochi 4 and waited for the ultimate version and did not regret it at all.
I'm sorry but as a newcommer i just cannot play WO3, how close the camera is hurts my eyes, and the overal movement of characters feels bad, but WO4 looks waay better, i don't know if the content would keep me playing 3 if the gameplay is not good compared to 4....
I like both ultimate versions of warriors 3 and 4, but if i must choose only one of them, it would be warriors orochi 3 U, it´s still one of the best warriors games of all time!!
My problem with koei is how greedy they've gotten with the dlc.
Ultimate part of the story is garbage
Yeah, it's pretty bad, I wish they called WO4 something else as it has very little to do with Orochi
@@SexGravy they could have just made a new series instead of ruining WO
(also sorry for my bad English)
@@Hidrozlais your english is fine mate, much better than koei's recent games at least ;)
The regular one way more entertaining than this
Thank you for this, will be getting the upgrade pack on steam. Agreed this is literally a big patch but it does transform the game into what I wanted in the first place. I didnt really play WO4 due to the headache inducing character menu and overall sense of laziness. Koei got me again as a fan, urghhh
4 additional stages? that is a real buzzkill :(
ive played wo4u and i felt like it was a major step backwards from wo3u
i would pay for wo5 or wo5u if it has the same amount of content as 3u and the character rosters from 3u + 4u
The only thing that had me excited for this game was Hades. And if there was an adjustment on the range. But I don't see much improvement so I'm gonna wait a while till the price for the upgrade drops.
Well. I was just wondering whether I should get WO3U or WO4U and your review makes it clear which version is superior. Thank you!
Exactly what brought me here aswell 😂 i think we have our answer
Fairly certain I can rebuke all of this review's dislike towards the game WO4U but it'll take a few massive long para posts to explain so gimme some time.
Your thumbnail says "waste of time" but aren't all games a waste of time? Isn't it a subjective concept anyways? Idk, your video makes the game look fun. It seems your issues come from prior history with the series, like those issues wouldn't be issues in a vacuum. I've never played an Orochi game and some of the other issues you highlighted are holdovers from Samurai Warriors 4-II and simplifications from Dynasty Warriors 8 Extreme Legends. I like both of those and Extreme Legends 8 could've used some simplifications. The Greek pantheon and heroes are a selling point for me over Orochi 3 as well as the better visuals. They are both currently on sale so I've been watching videos to make up my mind. Yours is the most negative I've seen. Most people say 3 Ultimate is better than 4 Ultimate but most still recommend 4 Ultimate. I think I'll get 4 Ultimate today and maybe down the line 3 Ultimate if it drops more in price. I think $30 for a game that looks mid-gen PS3 is too much.
Hey guys I wants to know is there a big difference between the Warriors Orochi 4 Deluxe Edition and the Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate Deluxe edition? I'm only seeing like a price difference, but in my mind 4 Ultimate Deluxe comes with everything the 1st does plus extra
Jeanne and Achilles (to the extent that he was likely based off a real person) always made sense to me in this game as they were both historical characters. Ryu and the DoA gang never did.
The SW characters seems more OP now over DW characters.
Mainly because Samurai Warriors characters have that cheesy ass dash move.
I'm playing this game only for 8 hours than drop it, then back to play orochi ultimate 3...
This worst orochi in the whole series, with really lack of content, lazy story mode (only show potrait not 3d character)...
I hope they fix in the next orochi series:
1. We can build camp like on Dynasty Warrior 8 extreme legends/orochi 3
2. We can make own character creation on orochi series
3. Good story with good cutscene not just using 2D potrait
4. Good amount of content
5. We can equip support item
6. Conquest mode on orochi series
dinasty warriors 8 empires and samurai warriors 4 II Had character creation. I was disapointed to hear that we dont have it here....
Remember when KT/Tecmo actually cared bout their Warriors franchise? I remember, also REEEEEEEEEEEEE DW Gundam Reborn and Fist of the North Star Ken's Rage 2 never goes on sale lol
Executive Data7 dont you dare bring up Gundam DW near me man, I feel horrible in that I’m unable to play it on any consoles I currently have, so I’m only left with my memories of the game until I manage to get an old one back or when they make a new one. TBH i don’t even care if it’s trash or a remaster, anything from that series will do for me in a new release.
@@Halcypian I'm more upset that there's never any sales for DW Gundam or Ken's Rage 2, doesn't help both where digital only in North America on ps3, xbox360 got physical copies. You can get a pal physical copy but good luck finding a cheap one, Japanese copies are fairly cheap tho
I have fun wit the game and it's called having the other characters looking and expanding the map while u complete the objective
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate was and still is better then this disappointment of a game.
I just need the warriors orochi empire >:(
I heard some people said that Koei doesn't do it because it will separate their Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors game empire sources. I would like them to add assistance and other elements like Dynasty Warriors 8 empires.
this man gets whats wrong with the game 100%, i would totally still play the previous version
I find it funny Greek gods speaking Japanese.
Lucky I waited till WO4U to invest into WO4
Appreciate your videos I know you care about this genre a lot and I like how your not bias you tell it like it is glad I didn't get this I was so disappointed with 9 orochi 4 was a good pallette cleanser but was no where near as good as 3 I'm hoping we get another basara game but I doubt it at this point
I had hopes for this game cause i loved WO3U the only thing i wished on that game was the DW8XL characters in. I really only played this cause out of love for Lu Lingqi but its been hard to put time into the game cause of how boring and lackluster everything is
Oh so you actually get a cutscene after finding all of the Perseus’ fragments, that’s neat, and here I thought they got cancelled from this game, I almost feel sad for not having bothered enough 😂
For me , the most upseting thing is that they sell old quest characters (with the same moveset) as new "returning" ones AND the fact that they use the same damn weapon skin for every tier you can aquire in the game, just to sell the DW8 and SW4 weapon DLC packs AGAIN.
WTF KOEI?!
Honestly, how can they not see that if you keep recycle things no one gonna buy it
trueeee
I play with my brother
but the game so boring with same move skills again and again
who knows maybe they will make a samurai warriors orochi 5 ultimate and this time they will add in Hercules along with theseus and all the other 12 god of olympis and the other gods of Chinese, Norse and Japanese mythology will be in the next orochi game to
I am sure not to buy this game, WO4 was already disappointing and this ultimate version is too expensive for what it offers, the absence of the Ninja Gaiden characters is ridiculous. Honestly I prefer Samurai Warriors 4 and Spirit of Sanada which are much better.
Should i get wo3u instead of this one. After seeing the review i kinda think wo3u is the better option, but i d appreciate some advice.
@@tenaciouschrome Ty for the answer. I think ill buy wo3u and sw4 for the same price as the wo4.
@@raptorzeroking4871 now its around 42$ because of summer sale
To this day I still play wo3 ultimate but 4 has been a disappointment for me, I thought that since it would be a new generation and at the end when all the engines are already developed and could have changed to a more powerful one to improve the AI it has been very disappointing. I love the WARRIORS saga but I'm going to play this one until I modify my ps4. because it's not worth buying.
I wasn't a particular fan of WO3's story but the gameplay was still solid. I just hated how they reset all the characters' involvement with each other that was built up over the original WO and WO2. WO4 just sounds like the worst direction they could have gone with it on top of that.
Exactly. That put me off right near the beginning of the story. Instead of seeing them interact with characters they gained a bond with in the previous game, they went with the "I don't remember what happened" excuse.
And the characters they interact with in the camp just seems random.
What i hate about this game is that the recommended team aren't really relevant to the stage story other than gaining bonus XP and gem
Very fine detailed review your commentary is absolutely hilarious. I feel your pain they are very lazy when it comes to games as of lately. They have such a great franchise I don't know why they don't realize it. It could be bigger than it is. But I probably still will buy the expansion upgrade. I'm the type of gamer that has a love-hate relationship with this game. But overall thank you so much for your excellent review it is well noted.
i mean in this point on, i would prefer getting a SW2/DW5/WO2 remastered then getting unpolished, pathetic, god level annoying that ruin the franchise itself (WO4 and the U version, DW9)
Ofc if Diao Chan at 9 stars and max leveled, she will pretty much one shot almost everything(Both Orochi versions included), but so as Zhuge Liang or even the worst character of the game Sanzang.
The major difference is how fast they will complete a stage, and in this field, everyone is different(until last max level possible, at least).
For the S rank completion, your point is delusional since the harder difficulty you play, the least requirements are to get the S rank. For example, i played Zuo Ci in Pandemonium difficulty in Chapter 7 stage bonus 1 at only lvl 85 with no stars and 5 star unique weapon with 0 compatibility and 8 slots , with Ying Long and Yue Ying at barely lvl 90 but 5th weapon too with max compatibility. The first time i made it was 9min and 56 sec with only 932 kill count. Ofc in easy difficulty you should be at least with 3000 kc and under more or less 12 minutes to complete.
Not sure if they added Alpha 152( the Kasumi gamma fluid clone, don't remember the exact numbers)you would get the WO4. But they added Ayane for obvious fan service(bro, we're talking about KOEI TECMO, this is literally their main line up as well) so as Hayabusa and Achilles.
You just look you want to cook Koei for their service and content, but you use the poorest features to turn it at your advantage in your argumentation.
Sounds very ungratful, to me. But i could be mistaken. It's too bad to here this from a YT creator because I've got the game from a month and honestly, i enjoy it really well.
The very first Warriors Orochi is FAN SERVICE!
However, you gave many arguments to also play WO3 as well as WO4. Pretty sure i will enjoy both. So even my salty ahh wants to thank you for the review😅
The real pain isn't that game, the real pain was the requirements for the old game to get 5th weapons. At least in DW3XL, weapons were fixed when you did complete requirements. In the very first SWXL, the weapon supply unit could vanish for good if you didn't check log and track it well, especially if you didn't unlock Red Hare/Matsukaze, the other mounts lmfao😅. Even Xuzhu/Goemon Ishikawa were quicker with speedx2😂
I look at this WO3 the same way I do an anime movie it has big steaks and a powerful enemy but, at the end of the day it’s nowhere near as impactful as what’s going on in the show. This game has a whole Lotta potential but, they refused to take it to the next step. If they wanted to go with the more western gods they should’ve went all in and had more unique characters. Odin and Loki shouldn’t be the only as guardian Gods, Zeus Athena and Ares shouldn’t be the only gods from Olympus. The whole idea with the bracelets and only having certain characters get transformations was dumb. They should’ve just updated the strikeforce uniforms and gave everyone else transformations and gone from there. They need to move away from Orochi, since this game really didn’t need him and they just tried to squeeze him in. It should have been the Asgardian gods vs. The Olympian gods with the cast choosing the side.
Ok, dead ass.....this will be my first samurai/dynasty warriors game. And after looking at some of this video, I'm at a loss. Should I get as my first game warriors oroochi 3 ultimate or wait till warrior orochi 4 ultimate to drop? Is 3 ultimate that good and was 4 such a disappointment? Is 4 worth getting in any form?
It's hard to say as I've been a longtime fan of 'Warriors' games so I've played nearly all of them. Most if not all of the dissapointment in this game comes from that. So as a new fan you might enjoy it. But personally I'd rather set myself on fire than play any more of this game.
I'd recommend pretty much any other warriors game over this.
DW8XL
Samurai Warriors 4 or Spirit of Sanada
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate
@@SexGravy what would recommend then?
The one saving grace of WO4 is Athena. Like daaaamn she is fire
I'm maybe a bit late to the party but I would like to ask my question anyways.
Most of your points seem to come from a person who already played Orochi 4 and is not satisfied with the Ultimate version? What is fair when there is not that much new content added. But how would you rate the game to someone like me, who just seen it on steam and thinks about getting it? I've never played any of these games before (well, I did play Hyrule Warrior for a looooong time and this looked more like that)
Just get Warriors Orochi 3 instead as they released that fairly recently on steam
Sold in the first 20 seconds.
I can't believe they had the nerve to charge 60 for disc.. this game was garbage.. i really hope they don't do a 5..
Yeah this game is such a disappointment.
The story barely does anything with the Orochi and Mystic characters, including Orochi himself. It’s all centered around Odin and Zeus. The rest of the cast feels like they’re also just there to exist.
After a while of gameplay, the magic weapons feels so gimmicky since there are only like 15 divided among a huge cast of characters. Those giant monsters also don’t help, they slow down the pace of the game to a crawl.
On top of all of that, the game feels so lazy with all it’s clunky menus and character icon conversations. I miss walking around camp. The fact the base game doesn’t have the proper character select is also really embarrassing.
Yeah I feel like I got robbed with ultimate. I would of loved the addition if they added past dynasty warriors moveset to spice the game a bit more. Same with samurai warriors with those moveset, was hoping to see adult yukimura's moveset from sw4 sanada.
Featuring Greek and Nordic gods was horrible. They could have added ancient Chinese figures from Multirade 2 and Japanese mythology.
The warriors orochi 3 ultimate is still better on this sorry
But i must say the samurai warriors skill set here like hyper attacks is better and i forgot to use dynasty warriors already but gameplay wise and character wise the previous warriors orochi 3 is better
Besides the upgrade is really expensive
"Samurai Warriors 4 hyper attacks removes difficulty and destroys players' urge to be better, and destroys the sense of mastery" I've never seen anything as cringe inducing as this statement here
I wish Orochi 3 Ultimate was on PC.
Orochi 4 Ultimate is the only one we can play.
Such a shame this game is a total flop and WO3U was so amazing 😕 I’m probably still gonna buy it because I love the series but will probably end up going back to the last one for an actual challenge. Let’s hope Persona scramble will satisfy our musou needs this year instead!
I don't know what's going on with Koei these days. I think they're focusing more on their licensed Musou games instead of their original IP ones.
I liked WO4, but anyone with a brain knows that WO3 was better. And the fact that we're getting crossover characters again is proof of just how much Warriors All-Stars failed.
Sure, WO4 is better than All-Stars, but WO3 is better than WO4.
I think they stopped caring somewhere along the way. Koei did try to change it up, but then we got Dynasty Warriors 9. And I rather play ANY Musou game over that game.
So I think they are lost. They don't want to go back (or they can't or don't know how to) and there isn't anything for them going forward.
I say they need a fresh restart without throwing out the baby with the bathtub. Go back to the old formula and evolve it. And they need to stop re-using content 1 for 1. DW10, SW5 and the next Warriors Orochi should all use new (or retouched) assets. And just abandon the idea of Warriors All-Stars and merge that into the Orochi series.
@@freelanceart1019 I'm curious to what you mean by they "do not deserve the IP".
KT doesn't own the entire story of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", which Dynasty Warriors is just their retelling and interpretation of the story. Other companies are totally free to make games based on Romance.
I'm assuming you know, but Sega has their own telling in "Total War: The Three Kingdoms" and that game is amazing. It's just a tactical game and not an Action Adventure Beat 'em up.
And I definitely think Capcom could do well with it. Sengoku Basara shows an alternate take on what KT has done with Samurai Warriors. I'd love to see Capcom do a RoTK game like Sengoku Basara. See how that does. I prefer KT's Samurai Warriors over Sengoku Basara, but I think Samurai Warriors is better than Dynasty Warriors because Samurai Warriors has competition from Sengoku Basara. With there being direct competition, neither Koei nor Capcom can afford to slouch.
This is also what happens with Sega's Total War: Three Kingdoms and Koei's strategical take on Dyansty Warriors, "Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV" (the number changes with each installation.) Because both games are similar in many ways, competition feeds growth, so neither game can slack, less the other dominate the field.
But alas, there is no other game to directly compete with Dynasty Warriors... or Warriors Orochi. So until that happens or Koei Tecmo has a change of heart... they're not being forced to improve these games.
After the PS2 days, every Warriors game that came afterwards has felt like a downgrade. (except graphics)
I just dont understand what happened? How are your previous installments better than your new ones? Why dont they give a fuck anymore is what I really want to know.
Because fans are complaisant with the state these games come out in, why would Koei put any effort in when the fans will buy it and defend it even if it’s not good. Dynasty Warriors 9 is a good example of how fans will buy and defend a poorly produced game
@@SexGravy So so sad a company with that mindset will never grow or prosper and will eventually die out in a few years.
Maybe, They'll always have fans that shill for a buy the games regardless. But the lazier they get the more (and I hate to use this phrase) casual fans will stop buying them and lets be honest they (casuals) make up the bulk of any game sales.
It doesn't help that the PR people for Koei seem to dislike their facebook fans as they once stated on their discord something to the effect of 'Prefering twitter over facebook because the fans aren't as aggressive to how bad the games are' lol
@@SexGravy LMAO! Thats actually hilarious. well when they eventually die out at least we will still have the classic warriors games..
Me and my cousins love drinking and playing this game it's simple we like using combos or to kill a whole army for fun this game did that then we would play in the hardest level and. See who would die first it was dope.
Nothing beats the power of friendship
Yeah dude i realize WO4 turning into fairy tail because all characters always talk about "let's combined our strength" and "let's become friend" thing
Athena "stoned" you 😏
Now the bs thing is that I just bought it's update and upgrade pack. And I have the game along disk in the ps4, after a long time downloading and spending money I earned nothing!!! I can't upgrade by the stupid excuse of can't find the game!!! Even I had the save file of DW9 for the costumes is also unable to redeem!!! So Koei wants to destroy the trust I gave them since childhood?! I'm willing to pay it's because I like it!!! Now I'm completely stuck with the game being just the previous version, wasted my dw9 safe files!!! Along with a few add ons I've paid and download!!! Pay for deluxe edition to upgrade my ass!!! I'm not US player! I'm Malaysian player!!! You think I'm rich to afford another?! Geez Game companies nowadays had no dignity!!!
Well different people have different view on wo4u to me is a good game because of the crossover dw and sw. But if u really think is bad why is ur own opinion. But most importantly don't play with people parent if u are mature what's is wrong with people these days so uncivilized
Maybe with the success of their licensed titles, Omega Force simply doesn't have enough time and manpower for their own IPs. Like those guys are pumping new musou games under different names non-stop now.
comparing wo1 and wo4u
I see massive difference in how difficult have changed.
In first game you could have died in any second and officers and normal soldiers were alot more agressive. You always needed to aproach enemy with avernes ,even max lvl on chaos.
4 game is just cheap massive damage trick. Its not hard, truying to deceve you that is hard. Just saying