Most low elo junglers biggest problem is they don't know how to use f2 to f5 check their teammates EFFICENTLY. Or struggling to Find important Info by Using F2-F5 keys. I Hope you to make a course for them. Thx a lot.
Easily the best League of Legends content on RUclips right now, anyone looking to train for ranked next season should follow these videos. It's a lot of information, but it's never out of place or useless.
7:00 this is RARELY mentioned by any other guides and great knowledge. This tactic ALSO sometimes confuse enemy laner and makes them hardpush to shove wave in. Faker often does this on Ryze when low on mana and isnt on cannon wave, to avoid being lane frozen.
Now that I think about it. I've done this before when I go up against an agressive player who freezes after getting an advantage. I was like well if I pull back they might push it in thinking I left so I would miss the xp. No point freezing the wave if the enemy isn't there. You could be either A getting lane pressure and/or B preventing xp and gold. This video cleared this up big time and plan on making better use of this in the future.
@sisuphos I noticed that as I got higher in ranked, many of the randoms I played with would make sure that we all sat back. I mainly play normal and just meme half the time and have now completely forgotten about this tactic. At the time I knew exactly the effect it could have and took it very seriously. Ah I remember the times when I used to play shyvana and do red and krugs to hit three then gank bot and get a free double. Or top, but normally I was on the side for bot.
I also like the fast lvl3 route which is Red->Crugs (u can leave 2 little crugs alone) -> Scuttle. You are around full hp After this round, have red and you can instant gank mid-bot/top
Ive been watching skill capped since its WoW inception and you guys have never disappointed. Even though some top tier pros may be the best at the game, you guys consistently are the best at unpacking the skill sets it takes to compete on that sort of level. Thanks so much for the years of help
5:33 AH yes i feel that familiar sense of security knowing my jungles taking scuttle bot He'll arrive for a countergank no probs ;) you'll see You'll all see Hes definitely coming...
Very well rounded guide, not like those who just state the optimal situation of the strat, but to show the counter plays and different situations, as a jungle main we have to adapt to so many different situations and this does covers a lot of them.
This channel is amazing So much information, so much to learn about jungle. Despite the fact I play league for 5 years now, each video I'm learning something new (even a tiny advantage that might help to gain more LP) Best YT channel to learn from by far Keep the great work bois
Amazing Kisu the analysis of Korean strats are alright, but I agree with the guy above me, not that you suck, but this channel isn’t very informative. All their tier lists are always inaccurate, and a lot of their information are either uninformative or incorrect (I’m a diamond 4 adc main playing since 2011)
i don’t even play jungle and i am learning how to play better as a support main and occasionally as a mid laner through this vid. even though your vids are pretty specific situations, thanks for keeping most of the info very broad so we can all learn stuff.
Bro... it's so clear and easy to listen to your voice and understand each step... No matter that Im Diamond right now, these vids are just helpful in every elo at least a little bit in my opinion. Good job.
You should mention that the ward in Bottom River Brush won't help vs Junglers that can jump walls like Graves or Nidalee. They most certainly will jump into the dragon pit due to the shorter route and won't walk through tribush like it's shown in the video. Ask your Botlane to Ward dragon pit in that case.
@@momo777777777777777 Graves always starts E so he can kite red without taking a single point of damage, and good nid players will start W, get raptors fast with 2 traps then jump onto red and then have Q and W at level 2.
yeah actually this is route online works if the enemy team is dumb like the gangplank of the zoe, doing so much push, and tanking krooks at first is always risky bc if the enemy jungle invades it will steal lot and if you go predator and dont find any ganks early you will become useless. but is not a bad strategy either it kinda high risk high reward.
sebastian badilla if you go predator and don’t find any ganks early, especially as Heca/Gragas, even Skarner, then it’s not the strategy’s fault and you have to adapt. But don’t worry, judging by your bronze (iron) mentality you’ll always find a gank option in your division
Video quality an analysis reminds me a lot of Ciderhelm's Learn the League series but that stuff cut off about 4 years ago. Very glad to see someone filling that niche!
Holy cow, this video is a pure knowledge bomb for all junglers out there. One video is literally answers all the questions about what can happen in the early game and how to deal with it. Damn, I wish adc videos were that clear and strict in terms of describing early laning with different types of champions. Of course maybe it is me being dumb and not being able to understand adc videos in the same way as jungle videos.
How to recognize that the enemy jungler has chosen this route? In kr challenger you can always assume that they have but in my regular gold III game it's not so obvious.
@@WhiteVampire888 yeah. Jg in low elo is all about just having more information. If you know what they're doing you can get pretty nice advantage by just responding to their actions with more optimal decisions.
I've been doing this clear path on Hecarim for 3 to 4 months now. A weakness to this clear path is you will almost always get double crabbed early game. Also sometimes I prefer to just full clear instead of basing for boots depending on the matchup and lanes. A full rotation into boots ->gank top back into krugs with the rubberbanded camps is also super efficient.
I do see an issue with the route. If enemy does Red > Krugs > Blue invade, their path will take them around the big monster pit, not through the pixel brush. The main issue is this: You both take red. You take wraiths. He takes krugs. You take krugs and recall. He takes your blue and then takes scuttle. You can still power farm the other camps or gank hard, but you lose alot of camps. Assuming you dont see them enter your jg (because they avoid the pixel brush) they can take your camps freely and you wouldn't know or respond.
this is specific counter if opponent 100% sure you do it that way. every route have weakness. but laners didnt give any information through no leash nor you go through 100% placed wards - so opponents commit to your blue after gromp is too risky to waste so many time without info and in janky route
@@alexkraczek3248 true. But if your a high elo player, where this is the route for predator players, and you are on a champ like lee, then its likely enough that you can do a route like i mentioned. At the worst, going to their blue, if its gone, you can check their gromp/wolves, ward it, and then go to scuttle then rotate up to your own blue side. Im not a high elo player so my suggestion isnt perfect either, but i think that of this predator path does become super meta, what i described could become a decent counter
Really interesting! Would love to see this expanded a bit in a situation where enemy laners collapse to defend buffs during vertical jungling because they have lane priority early.
yes but it is infinitely less info you would give off if you crossed the path of a ward. Then they'd know you have your boots and predator so you based after 3 camps top side. They'd know you have a pink to place somewhere bot side. For all they know when you hit that plant your just full clearing and haven't even based yet. Not hitting it is a high risk low reward play.
@@ND-er1bo but again you're talking of ifs. these are not guarantees. The zoe solo killed the mid and disappeared from the map. She could've easily ran over to place something in fog. She could've even ran down to scuttle to see if it was up and dropped a new pixel ward. This is risk vs reward. Hitting the plant is minimal risk. Them knowing your bot doesn't stop you from getting a gank off as we saw. Them knowing you have your predator boots and what you've cleared so far is early game = over.
Andy Jacobs That's why Hec sat there. Video already explained it. He did plant to avoid wards spotting him doing SCUTTLE. This is to avoid the it being stolen. Zoe then backs off cus of the said plant. But she cannot back off forever, since it'll be the same as dying if she loses too much EXP/gold as Liss freezes. That's why Hec waited there, he wasnt tricked and knew Zoe would need to get in range.
I mean, its really not that much info youre giving up. by hitting the plan tyou also cna see if the enemy jungler is coming in for an early gank as well. I'm sure that the CHALLENGER jungler knows the disadvantages/advantages better than you haha
So I can adapt to this as a hecarim main, which means low elo can't understand so I can tilt them easily! This Pred. Guide is a genius!!!!! Thank you for these jg vids😊
Been doing this path on Amumu for like 2 months. Only difference is if i'm Red side i start Raptors since Amumu doesn't need a leash or if i'm blue i can look for an early bot side gank before recalling and buying Dark Seal+Pink and boots if i snagged a kill. Confirmed the rank 1 KR challenger copying me xD
I've literally been doing this since predator was released. Early back for early gank. The only problem I see with it is if you don't capitalize off that early lead. My personal favorite in low elo is to gank top if we have kill potential, have your top bait out an in lane TP, then do a follow up kill and deny them their cs and summoners.
Good video with nice strategy, but the part around 7:30, i dont think zoe was hiding to avoid a jungler gank, but just returning from base after killing lissandra, pushing the wave then recalling when lissandra tp'd. she returned the lane full hp and mana afterwards.
Thanks so much for this even though I don't usually play Predator junglers (I might get back to Hecarim after watching this) seeing this route and ways to counter it will really help me up my jungle game...
This route assumes that 1) people always ward pixel 2) that tri-bush doesn't get warded until after 4 minutes 3) that if someone starts vertical jungling, that they have not cleared any of their own side camps.
Hi guys! your channel is great, amazing, I´ve learned sooooo much, thank you. Also, could you please start a series in Support role? I main support and I gain knowledge through the ADC and Jungle series, but maybe there´s something to be said exclusively from the support point of view. Also, feels awkward to see the series "become a legend" doesn´t have a support role
This is super pedantic but that's not how 'on the other hand' is commonly used. It's not meant to separate two points that agree, it's supposed to separate two points that disagree. Something like, "This slows your first clear on red, but on the other hand it hides your jungle route". edit: it's said at 1:26
One counter strategy for the first part could be, that if you know the enemy is doing that "predacious jungle route" - at 1-50 you just run there from botside to prevent the enemies from seeing you at this pixel ward - blue stolen :D
Makes me appreciate how much IQ goes into good jungling. When I get autofilled I kinda just run around aimlessly, because if I don’t know what I’m doing, they sure as hell won’t
You smite the big Krug first clear because it does the most damage and if you don't you actually have to sit in fountain for an extra 2 seconds or so to regen HP before heading out onto the map.
wow the way how u desecribe the whole strategy and the summary at the end of the video are perfect! thx for the cool vid. :D subcribed and the bell is turned on now
this would work 50% of the time in lower elo because most lanes won't initiate like the lissandra at 7:31. you still need to rely on a good team to follow up or know you're coming for a gank -- otherwise you lose your opportunity and other lanes will die in the process.
worst case scenario you half HP the Zoe and burn her flash in that situation if Liss wont move...get your camps then regank after 2 minutes...flashless Zoe will die lvl4 to you thats it :D
You mentioned there's no need to ward the blue buff if the pixel Bush is warded to spot the enemy jungle invade, then mention the counter play is to use the lower tri Bush to invade undetected. If Lee sin had done that, the blue buff ward would have confirmed That, my friends is why these guys are challenger
This sounds awesome, but if you start Red, do Krugs and then the Scuttle Crab you get to level3 before anybody else in the game and can gank very early a level 2 enemy. The only problem is then you have the raptors sitting there if you don't have enough hp to kill them safely.
at around 7 when hecarim hits the scryer plant, it tips off enemy midlaner zoe that jungler is nearby so she backs off and waits until the last moment to go back and start farming again
What if: Enemy Blue is warded and as soon as you invade they decide to protect it since they have strong early game and your Blue gets successfully invaded nonetheless.
@@XLEZZY_REUPLOADS that's for you as a jungler to come up with a plan or something. given that you know that the enemy jungler is taking or took your blue (which means he's/she's on the other side of the map) and the enemy laner trying to contest you: 1. top lane is vulnerable to ganks or your top lane don't have to worry about getting level 2 gank. if you are ballsy enough or have a good sense when it comes to diving a lane then go for it. (which i don't recommend if your laner does not on the same page as you) *if mid lane is the one trying to contest. 2. give your team a PING, specially the bot lane. they always try for the level 2 power spike and go all in. (thresh for example) unsuccessful enemy ganks is huge lead for you as a jungler and for your team aswell. **if possible, don't forget to put a vision if you failed to take the enemy blue buff. Information is the key here. Edit: don't forget, You have teammates aswell .
Hey, just curious of how the path changes when starting blue side? Starting the blue seems a bit odd since you wont have the red buff damage if you are to skirmish or whatnot.
Graves doesn't have to risk going through pixel or tribush, as he can just E over the dragon wall after clearing red to steal enemy blue. might wanna point that out.
Does this method only work if you are on red side team? Or are you able to do a similar route if you are on blue side team and end the route by looking for a gank top or mid? I feel as though you could, it would just be less efficient maybe. Thanks, this vid is super useful!
The clear will work just the same. You'll still do red and all that and get a leash from top. Or you can do the leashless raptors. Timings will be different if you start solo, but it's still a healthy clear. When I start red side with something like this, I look for a lvl 3 gsnk while I grab scuttle before my back. Hitting level 3 on the predator champs ends at such a healthy clear that a lvl 3 gank without predator is still super strong. Even if you don't get a kill, you have lane pressure, maybe get summoners, and the enemy team isn't going to think you backed on this route. If you ganked before scuttle, get it after the gank. Then you can back, get your boots, your other jungle part or the upgrade (if you got a kill), and do a second gank right after your back, or blue buff before you gank. If you did get a kill on your first lvl 3 gank, blue buff should be close to or give you your level 4. Getting blue after the gank will give you a faster clear though.
This video get me to play Hecarim, and SoloQ is actually a lot easier right now. Since Hecarim is not a mechanic based champion, using this strategy helps me focus a lot more on macro and I feel like I am actually improving.
Macro wins games micro makes you do it in style. You can get really high in the ladder with good map awareness, warding, and strong farm. I think thats the 3 things people should focus on over being able to make a flashy play. I play at 20-5 fps so its just not possible for me to be a micro god but I can hold my own no prob with people in diamond with those 3 simple rules.
I think mine is a better opener, after taking my buff, I instantly recall as my allied didn't leash me. Now I'm underleveled by 2 levels and can't do anything.
Just a constructive comment, I noticed you used 'enough' as a transition twice in the first two minutes, "enough hyping it up" & "enough overview". Felt a little unnatural and you guys normally have great flow in your videos. Keep up the hard work as always, highest quality League content on RUclips right now. 🤘
Is this still viable in S10? The red side clear is probably still stronger and most AoE-jglers prefer to start on that side of the map. I see no clear downside in taking this route with fe. Gragas into then ganking top, clearing blue -> redside, and then attempting a bot gank, followed by first dragon.
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Skill Capped Challenger LoL Guides i freaking love these guides! I wish You guys would make guides for AoV aswell
I need some IQ... Someone took my 200IQ so now I have 0 Kappa
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Most low elo junglers biggest problem is they don't know how to use f2 to f5 check their teammates EFFICENTLY.
Or struggling to Find important Info by Using F2-F5 keys.
I Hope you to make a course for them.
Thx a lot.
Every time I answer a question right, I feel like 9000 IQ even though I'm Bronze 7
Meanwhile in Bronze Hecarim forgot to buy items and dies to Raptors
pretty much sums up my games
hey, now it'll be in *IRON!!!!*
and then starts swearing at his team in portuguese
dies on second camp with items
you forgot to add that he goes afk after he died to the raptors
Easily the best League of Legends content on RUclips right now, anyone looking to train for ranked next season should follow these videos. It's a lot of information, but it's never out of place or useless.
I'm always down to find some people what's your rank?
7:00 this is RARELY mentioned by any other guides and great knowledge. This tactic ALSO sometimes confuse enemy laner and makes them hardpush to shove wave in. Faker often does this on Ryze when low on mana and isnt on cannon wave, to avoid being lane frozen.
Now that I think about it. I've done this before when I go up against an agressive player who freezes after getting an advantage. I was like well if I pull back they might push it in thinking I left so I would miss the xp. No point freezing the wave if the enemy isn't there. You could be either A getting lane pressure and/or B preventing xp and gold. This video cleared this up big time and plan on making better use of this in the future.
@sisuphos I noticed that as I got higher in ranked, many of the randoms I played with would make sure that we all sat back. I mainly play normal and just meme half the time and have now completely forgotten about this tactic. At the time I knew exactly the effect it could have and took it very seriously. Ah I remember the times when I used to play shyvana and do red and krugs to hit three then gank bot and get a free double. Or top, but normally I was on the side for bot.
Bro i love these videos that covers all the “and if” questions dude, ur amazing
Good job.
*Hecarim already hits like a truck*
Now he'll hit like an Asteroid.
Star Guardian Hecarim is ready
not really
Hecarim is garbage lmao. There is a reason he has 46% winrate
You also have to realise this route is so efficient because you have a gank opportunity at around 3:50 and trinket are down until 4:00
Of course that entirely depends on when the trinkets are used. People will start adjusting their trinket usage if this becomes more common.
I also like the fast lvl3 route which is Red->Crugs (u can leave 2 little crugs alone) -> Scuttle.
You are around full hp After this round, have red and you can instant gank mid-bot/top
This path is very good against the path shown in the video because can let you take both scuttles for free.
No, you dont hit lvl 3 on that.
Just turned pro after this video thanks.
boyoboy10001 😂
Ive been watching skill capped since its WoW inception and you guys have never disappointed. Even though some top tier pros may be the best at the game, you guys consistently are the best at unpacking the skill sets it takes to compete on that sort of level. Thanks so much for the years of help
5:33 AH yes i feel that familiar sense of security knowing my jungles taking scuttle bot
He'll arrive for a countergank no probs ;) you'll see
You'll all see
Hes definitely coming...
I love this guide, I usually never comment on youtube but this channel is so good. I'm currently on an 8 game winstreak with hecarim only.
That's awesome! Super glad we're able to help :) keep owning!
Very well rounded guide, not like those who just state the optimal situation of the strat, but to show the counter plays and different situations, as a jungle main we have to adapt to so many different situations and this does covers a lot of them.
This channel is amazing
So much information, so much to learn about jungle. Despite the fact I play league for 5 years now, each video I'm learning something new (even a tiny advantage that might help to gain more LP)
Best YT channel to learn from by far
Keep the great work bois
Cause your trash my man. The only thing ive learn was about the ward in the brush
Amazing Kisu the analysis of Korean strats are alright, but I agree with the guy above me, not that you suck, but this channel isn’t very informative. All their tier lists are always inaccurate, and a lot of their information are either uninformative or incorrect (I’m a diamond 4 adc main playing since 2011)
sgm4545 get that hate tf outta here nerd u aint Challenger. Toxic lil bitch
@@Fwoomi lol I'm d3 jg main and I learn alot from this channel. Does anecdotal evidence cancel each other out
IDK man lol id quit if I played for 5 years and was still silver
I love you voice, its so relaxing and perfect for these instructional videos!
Replace "instructional" with "sensual" Kappa
I find his voice slightly annoying personally.
i don’t even play jungle and i am learning how to play better as a support main and occasionally as a mid laner through this vid. even though your vids are pretty specific situations, thanks for keeping most of the info very broad so we can all learn stuff.
By far the most informative youtube channel for LoL
Bro... it's so clear and easy to listen to your voice and understand each step...
No matter that Im Diamond right now, these vids are just helpful in every elo at least a little bit in my opinion. Good job.
This is a really done video. Not only does it talk about the routes, but also what to do when things don't go as planned (JG invading blue).
You should mention that the ward in Bottom River Brush won't help vs Junglers that can jump walls like Graves or Nidalee. They most certainly will jump into the dragon pit due to the shorter route and won't walk through tribush like it's shown in the video. Ask your Botlane to Ward dragon pit in that case.
it works against them anyways since they won't take the dash ability first
@@momo777777777777777 but they can take it second after they finish their first camp. Graves does it
@@momo777777777777777 Graves always starts E so he can kite red without taking a single point of damage, and good nid players will start W, get raptors fast with 2 traps then jump onto red and then have Q and W at level 2.
yeah actually this is route online works if the enemy team is dumb like the gangplank of the zoe, doing so much push, and tanking krooks at first is always risky bc if the enemy jungle invades it will steal lot and if you go predator and dont find any ganks early you will become useless. but is not a bad strategy either it kinda high risk high reward.
sebastian badilla if you go predator and don’t find any ganks early, especially as Heca/Gragas, even Skarner, then it’s not the strategy’s fault and you have to adapt.
But don’t worry, judging by your bronze (iron) mentality you’ll always find a gank option in your division
I've been out of the game for a good minute now. I still found this video to be entertaining and oddly insightful. Nice work, guys.
Video quality an analysis reminds me a lot of Ciderhelm's Learn the League series but that stuff cut off about 4 years ago. Very glad to see someone filling that niche!
Holy cow, this video is a pure knowledge bomb for all junglers out there.
One video is literally answers all the questions about what can happen in the early game and how to deal with it. Damn, I wish adc videos were that clear and strict in terms of describing early laning with different types of champions. Of course maybe it is me being dumb and not being able to understand adc videos in the same way as jungle videos.
This guy is talking like he's always asking a question.
rising inflection is so annoying
Its unfortunately very common in people
Like the Hunger Games capital population.
I never understood that? Like, people always talk like they're asking a question? When they aren't? It's like so weird?
it's usually Canadians doing that.
Oh Tarzan not Tarzaned. Tarzan in Korea. Okay.
Tarzaned the na streamer isnt even top 100 in the world LMFAO
@@eclipsexz6 lol tarzaned^^^^ ?? or his man
@@eclipsexz6 a brief example of tarzaned fan base
Na this video is about a good jungler that doesn't just flame and take every resource on the map. XD
Sarikk what reason was ‘brief’ the source of telling them to slit their throat, omegalul
Zoe wasnt sitting in the fog of war "hiding" she just based after murdering lissandra.
You are right, i didn't even realize xD
How to recognize that the enemy jungler has chosen this route? In kr challenger you can always assume that they have but in my regular gold III game it's not so obvious.
Try to place an aggressive ward on their chickens if you can. Place it at 1:05 and then run to YOUR red if you're starting bot side
Yeah in gold it seems that there is no meta for jng route ^^ just ward and see what they are doing i guess
@@WhiteVampire888 yeah. Jg in low elo is all about just having more information. If you know what they're doing you can get pretty nice advantage by just responding to their actions with more optimal decisions.
in 90% of your games they will most likely just start bot side with a leash lol
@@Shufflz I think that most low elo players start at blue no matter which side they are, unless is something like a lee sin that usually starts at red
I've been doing this clear path on Hecarim for 3 to 4 months now. A weakness to this clear path is you will almost always get double crabbed early game. Also sometimes I prefer to just full clear instead of basing for boots depending on the matchup and lanes. A full rotation into boots ->gank top back into krugs with the rubberbanded camps is also super efficient.
Wow, your production is great! Excellent script and visual aides. Keep up the good work :)
4:23 My midlaner is inting as always? Oh nevermind lol
Nahh, it s not bot lane... Bot lane are always the inting ones
I do see an issue with the route.
If enemy does Red > Krugs > Blue invade, their path will take them around the big monster pit, not through the pixel brush. The main issue is this:
You both take red.
You take wraiths. He takes krugs.
You take krugs and recall. He takes your blue and then takes scuttle.
You can still power farm the other camps or gank hard, but you lose alot of camps. Assuming you dont see them enter your jg (because they avoid the pixel brush) they can take your camps freely and you wouldn't know or respond.
this is specific counter if opponent 100% sure you do it that way. every route have weakness. but laners didnt give any information through no leash nor you go through 100% placed wards - so opponents commit to your blue after gromp is too risky to waste so many time without info and in janky route
@@alexkraczek3248 true. But if your a high elo player, where this is the route for predator players, and you are on a champ like lee, then its likely enough that you can do a route like i mentioned. At the worst, going to their blue, if its gone, you can check their gromp/wolves, ward it, and then go to scuttle then rotate up to your own blue side. Im not a high elo player so my suggestion isnt perfect either, but i think that of this predator path does become super meta, what i described could become a decent counter
Really interesting! Would love to see this expanded a bit in a situation where enemy laners collapse to defend buffs during vertical jungling because they have lane priority early.
~ 6:20 you wont be spotted by a ward but you give out info for free by using the plant
yes but it is infinitely less info you would give off if you crossed the path of a ward. Then they'd know you have your boots and predator so you based after 3 camps top side. They'd know you have a pink to place somewhere bot side. For all they know when you hit that plant your just full clearing and haven't even based yet. Not hitting it is a high risk low reward play.
@@PTdoubleOT depends on the ward place if it just in mid side bush it doesnt matter and "pixel brush" wards are expired by then
@@ND-er1bo but again you're talking of ifs. these are not guarantees. The zoe solo killed the mid and disappeared from the map. She could've easily ran over to place something in fog. She could've even ran down to scuttle to see if it was up and dropped a new pixel ward. This is risk vs reward. Hitting the plant is minimal risk. Them knowing your bot doesn't stop you from getting a gank off as we saw. Them knowing you have your predator boots and what you've cleared so far is early game = over.
Andy Jacobs
That's why Hec sat there.
Video already explained it. He did plant to avoid wards spotting him doing SCUTTLE. This is to avoid the it being stolen.
Zoe then backs off cus of the said plant. But she cannot back off forever, since it'll be the same as dying if she loses too much EXP/gold as Liss freezes.
That's why Hec waited there, he wasnt tricked and knew Zoe would need to get in range.
I mean, its really not that much info youre giving up. by hitting the plan tyou also cna see if the enemy jungler is coming in for an early gank as well. I'm sure that the CHALLENGER jungler knows the disadvantages/advantages better than you haha
So I can adapt to this as a hecarim main, which means low elo can't understand so I can tilt them easily! This Pred. Guide is a genius!!!!! Thank you for these jg vids😊
Been doing this path on Amumu for like 2 months. Only difference is if i'm Red side i start Raptors since Amumu doesn't need a leash or if i'm blue i can look for an early bot side gank before recalling and buying Dark Seal+Pink and boots if i snagged a kill.
Confirmed the rank 1 KR challenger copying me xD
This Video was one of your best!
No joke!
Love your Channel
I've literally been doing this since predator was released. Early back for early gank. The only problem I see with it is if you don't capitalize off that early lead. My personal favorite in low elo is to gank top if we have kill potential, have your top bait out an in lane TP, then do a follow up kill and deny them their cs and summoners.
Good video with nice strategy, but the part around 7:30, i dont think zoe was hiding to avoid a jungler gank, but just returning from base after killing lissandra, pushing the wave then recalling when lissandra tp'd. she returned the lane full hp and mana afterwards.
Thanks so much for this even though I don't usually play Predator junglers (I might get back to Hecarim after watching this) seeing this route and ways to counter it will really help me up my jungle game...
I've been using this strat a lot in ranked with Hecarim and im winning so many games! Thanks for this amazingly useful video! :)
Never seen one of your videos before, so clean and so specific and well explained, thank you very much u got a new follower :3
This route assumes that 1) people always ward pixel 2) that tri-bush doesn't get warded until after 4 minutes 3) that if someone starts vertical jungling, that they have not cleared any of their own side camps.
From Zyra main to Kindred main real quicc. Amazing as always!
Hi guys! your channel is great, amazing, I´ve learned sooooo much, thank you.
Also, could you please start a series in Support role? I main support and I gain knowledge through the ADC and Jungle series, but maybe there´s something to be said exclusively from the support point of view.
Also, feels awkward to see the series "become a legend" doesn´t have a support role
Well explained. Looking forward to next guides or more analysis!
This is super pedantic but that's not how 'on the other hand' is commonly used. It's not meant to separate two points that agree, it's supposed to separate two points that disagree. Something like, "This slows your first clear on red, but on the other hand it hides your jungle route". edit: it's said at 1:26
One counter strategy for the first part could be, that if you know the enemy is doing that "predacious jungle route" - at 1-50 you just run there from botside to prevent the enemies from seeing you at this pixel ward - blue stolen :D
damn i should watch the whole video before commenting xD
I just lost a match as the team jungler and this came up in my recommended. I think they're trying to tell me something...
Makes me appreciate how much IQ goes into good jungling. When I get autofilled I kinda just run around aimlessly, because if I don’t know what I’m doing, they sure as hell won’t
You smite the big Krug first clear because it does the most damage and if you don't you actually have to sit in fountain for an extra 2 seconds or so to regen HP before heading out onto the map.
After a three years perm quit. I'm confident now that I can get my jungle boogie on. 👍🏽 I played since 09, the game evolve so much.
wow the way how u desecribe the whole strategy and the summary at the end of the video are perfect!
thx for the cool vid. :D
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this is i beleive the BEST channel if you want to learn about jungling.
this would work 50% of the time in lower elo because most lanes won't initiate like the lissandra at 7:31. you still need to rely on a good team to follow up or know you're coming for a gank -- otherwise you lose your opportunity and other lanes will die in the process.
worst case scenario you half HP the Zoe and burn her flash in that situation if Liss wont move...get your camps then regank after 2 minutes...flashless Zoe will die lvl4 to you thats it :D
You mentioned there's no need to ward the blue buff if the pixel Bush is warded to spot the enemy jungle invade, then mention the counter play is to use the lower tri Bush to invade undetected. If Lee sin had done that, the blue buff ward would have confirmed
That, my friends is why these guys are challenger
Just started playing hecarim, so thankful I came across this video so early on 🙏🏻
This sounds awesome, but if you start Red, do Krugs and then the Scuttle Crab you get to level3 before anybody else in the game and can gank very early a level 2 enemy. The only problem is then you have the raptors sitting there if you don't have enough hp to kill them safely.
Rubikari this gives more gold for boots and ward this is for aoe pred jg not stuff like rengar or shaco etc.
This guide is for predator users not lvl 2 gankers
but there is a high chance you will get spotted on a ward or get killed by a river collapse, and the basic Predator route is safe and free :D
As an hecarim jgl main since season 5, I appreciate this one =) thx!
I plat or below... any of these tactic's not work... bcs by the time u get lvl 3 your midlander will already be feeding 0/4 ...
Trash meta
lol you have more options then just mid... realise that.
at around 7 when hecarim hits the scryer plant, it tips off enemy midlaner zoe that jungler is nearby so she backs off and waits until the last moment to go back and start farming again
Hey, good video. I wanted to know if this route also worked for champions like Rammus that can go with Predator but not neccesarily.
Enemy Jungler: Vertical Jungling / Horizontal Jungling
Allied Jungler: F*ck this I'll kill everything that goes in my way Jungling
Great job for taking on possible alternative scenarios.
this channel is so amazing always providing so much information that can help improve our skills and knowledge by a ton!! awesome and thumbs up!!
I legit went from silver 5 to platinum5 after finding this channel.
What if: Enemy Blue is warded and as soon as you invade they decide to protect it since they have strong early game and your Blue gets successfully invaded nonetheless.
if the laner(mid or top) collapse they might lose a lot of exp. giving advantage to your teammates on lanes. in exchange of losing your blue buff.
@@-Shiino yeah and the laner who stole it gets a free blue buff, giving them way more opportunities than their enemy laner who maybe got a few cs.
@@XLEZZY_REUPLOADS that's for you as a jungler to come up with a plan or something. given that you know that the enemy jungler is taking or took your blue (which means he's/she's on the other side of the map) and the enemy laner trying to contest you:
1. top lane is vulnerable to ganks or your top lane don't have to worry about getting level 2 gank. if you are ballsy enough or have a good sense when it comes to diving a lane then go for it. (which i don't recommend if your laner does not on the same page as you) *if mid lane is the one trying to contest.
2. give your team a PING, specially the bot lane. they always try for the level 2 power spike and go all in. (thresh for example) unsuccessful enemy ganks is huge lead for you as a jungler and for your team aswell.
**if possible, don't forget to put a vision if you failed to take the enemy blue buff. Information is the key here.
Edit: don't forget, You have teammates aswell .
Hey, just curious of how the path changes when starting blue side? Starting the blue seems a bit odd since you wont have the red buff damage if you are to skirmish or whatnot.
That vertical split is sort of the route I've been doing because invades are so common lately. I don't even run predator.
I already knew all of this, but the fact that predator warns the closest enemy.
I just hit lvl30 yesterday.
"KOREAN CHALLENGER"....those words give me night mares
Graves doesn't have to risk going through pixel or tribush, as he can just E over the dragon wall after clearing red to steal enemy blue. might wanna point that out.
This is a video from 2 years ago and youtube recommended it to me
Quality content. Good analysis and good visualisation.
Its my first time hearing that scryre angle for mid ganking. Wow thats useful.
Thank u, the first game I played with this strat I won 10-3-14
Does this method only work if you are on red side team? Or are you able to do a similar route if you are on blue side team and end the route by looking for a gank top or mid? I feel as though you could, it would just be less efficient maybe. Thanks, this vid is super useful!
The clear will work just the same. You'll still do red and all that and get a leash from top. Or you can do the leashless raptors. Timings will be different if you start solo, but it's still a healthy clear. When I start red side with something like this, I look for a lvl 3 gsnk while I grab scuttle before my back. Hitting level 3 on the predator champs ends at such a healthy clear that a lvl 3 gank without predator is still super strong. Even if you don't get a kill, you have lane pressure, maybe get summoners, and the enemy team isn't going to think you backed on this route. If you ganked before scuttle, get it after the gank. Then you can back, get your boots, your other jungle part or the upgrade (if you got a kill), and do a second gank right after your back, or blue buff before you gank. If you did get a kill on your first lvl 3 gank, blue buff should be close to or give you your level 4. Getting blue after the gank will give you a faster clear though.
What an amazing channel. Thanks for sharing those tips. Really opened my mind.
I don't play LoL, but I enjoyed the production value of this guide. Other content creators should take notice!
If you are on blue side do you still do red/raptors or do you start top and do blue gromp and wolves?
the idea of the strat is to start red, then the red side clear will get you enough money for boots
This video get me to play Hecarim, and SoloQ is actually a lot easier right now. Since Hecarim is not a mechanic based champion, using this strategy helps me focus a lot more on macro and I feel like I am actually improving.
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Macro wins games micro makes you do it in style. You can get really high in the ladder with good map awareness, warding, and strong farm. I think thats the 3 things people should focus on over being able to make a flashy play. I play at 20-5 fps so its just not possible for me to be a micro god but I can hold my own no prob with people in diamond with those 3 simple rules.
@@johnathanhart2999 Well said man- well said...
These videos are a godsend for learning. Thank you!
This route was covered by iwd on his how to dominate series like a month ago.
6:07 It also reveals his position though, so I don't think that's a smart move if you'd plan on ganking mid.
This was recommended to me 2 years late
As a silver elo player...this is high level and I'll try this strat. Thanks for the guide!
graves doesnt need to invade through tri brush, he can just go through drake pit and save 3-5 sec depending on his pathing
10:46 I think vertical jungle farming is the future. 99.999% of lol scientists agree.
Thanks a lot for the beautiful explanation. Btw i play kayn as a jungler and perhaps predator would help me too.
This seems much more effective now with the new armor plating on tower
Really pushes that early bully
Number 15: Predator Hecarim. The last thing you want in your ranked games is a Predator Hecarim, but it turns out, that might be what you get.
Terrific work as usual.
I think mine is a better opener, after taking my buff, I instantly recall as my allied didn't leash me. Now I'm underleveled by 2 levels and can't do anything.
Draws 2 diagonal lines perpendicular to one another.
Calls them vertical and horizontal
could you do this with Ekko jng? I feel like the predator buff on his e would be a lot of damage
is this strategy viable for both sides of the map or are there some restrictions i cant seem to understand?
Just a constructive comment, I noticed you used 'enough' as a transition twice in the first two minutes, "enough hyping it up" & "enough overview". Felt a little unnatural and you guys normally have great flow in your videos. Keep up the hard work as always, highest quality League content on RUclips right now. 🤘
Any idea if this route is okay for volibear as well? Not tested yet but sounds good.
I'm so glad right now that I chose Hecarim as my main :D
Is this still viable in S10? The red side clear is probably still stronger and most AoE-jglers prefer to start on that side of the map. I see no clear downside in taking this route with fe. Gragas into then ganking top, clearing blue -> redside, and then attempting a bot gank, followed by first dragon.