Tarot - Convention, contention, controversy?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Airing some of my own thoughts about who I am and my place in the tarot community, acknowledging that there are many students of tarot involving themselves for different reasons and for different purposes..
Who am I and where do fit in? Who are you and how do you fit in?
A student, a teacher, a consultant, a preacher?
I hear you completely. You would have loved going on the late Vincent Pitisci's monthly zoom calls. You are not alone in thinking how you think. I read professionally daily at our store, and my outlook on doing youtube content is similar to yours. Keep sharing, I always enjoy your deck reviews.
Very interesting video.Thank you. I pretend to read for other people. I pick a friend, a family member or really, anyone, and throw cards and I am amazed at how easy it is to read for others rather than myself. Always makes me feel like I do get this and I have improved my skills over the years. I have never actually sat across from someone and read for them. Not really sure I ever will. I also approach tarot more from the conceptual blending aspect (aka how Vincent Pitisci (RIP) talks about tarot) rather than from the spiritual side. Also, if there are woman out there interested in talking tarot with you I would take them up on it. It's about opening up to others to talk tarot in your real life community... and those groups have a way of expanding into an ever wider circle of people and connections, once you find each other. A group of gay male tarot students may be just around the corner. Thanks again. I always get something new and interesting from your videos.
We never did any reading. 😅 I had such a good time with you - we just played!! 🎉🎉🎉
@@tamipie We did have such fun! It reminded me a being a kid and playing with Barbies... or in my case, my horse figurine collection. Barbie was the wrangler!
Thanks for mentioning Vincent Pitisci had died; I was periodically checking in on his page because I have a few of his books and enjoyed his videos, but hadn't checked for a while. I found VP RIP to be such an interesting guy. Blessings!
@@DaraDione Yes. I had been checking in on him as well and then tuned into a Thursday Sip and Sling with Chris at Elemental Cartomancy and he was using one VP's Marseille decks which I thought was very cool until he mentioned "in memoriam" and I was so taken aback and instantly sad. Vincent had been such a mentor me. From what I understand he had been ill and in the hospital for a period of time before he died. He will be dearly missed.
As a gay male witch and tarot enthusiast, I too feel I struggle to find like-minded people to connect with over my interest in tarot and the occult. I am also from your area and have struggled to find friendships or community connections with others interested in tarot. Especially hard to find people interested in reading tarot in a more jungian psychological way, which is where my personal interests lie. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
If you're in NYC and would like to meet and talk tarot sometime, get in touch.
I resonate so much with everything you've said here, thank you for this video. Wouldn't it be amazing to have a local cafe where you can drop in and find like-minded souls interested in all things esoteric and philosophical? I'm on the other side of the country from you, but you've given me an idea. I'm also a member of the lgbtq+ community and I'm wondering if offering free readings at a local gay and lesbian center would work to connect you with others?
It's tough though because you'd be more likely to run into folks looking for answers from you rather than looking to learn how tarot can help them. Maybe a small tarot talk at the center rather than reaadings? I'm with you a hundred percent on the Jungian take on the tarot. These archetypes resonate with us on a level we can find hard to connect with and the tarot helps reach that place. I'll stop, but thanks again. I will send up good thoughts you find a like-minded group to connect with in your area. ♥
I do know what you mean. I’m glad you did this video today and I bet you will find exactly what you’re looking for. Don’t give up it’s great day for manifesting 8/8/24! I do love your channel I can’t believe how many fabulous tarot cards you have & I enjoy looking at them. Have a great day! 😊
Jeffrey lives in NY & comes to mind his channel is called Ripecolor
17:50 - Don’t give yourself a label, Robin! You are just you.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that tarot is like a big buffet, you take what you want and leave what you don’t. I think tarot provides something for everyone. I tend not to watch card readings either, as I feel like a voyeur. That said, on the rare occasion (and it has happened just recently) where somebody offers to give me a reading, I usually say yes. This is mainly because I love to see other peoples perspective on the week or month ahead (as I usually opt for those kinds), compared with my own readings.
Very interesting topic, you’ve broached, Robin.
Thanks for watching Simon, and thanks for your thoughts.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Interesting video
Hi Robin, I am in the same predicament. I find the tarot community online out of reach as I do not create videos. I tried Instagram. I'm like the proverbial tree falling in the forest. I have a handful of tarot enthusiasts but not much interaction, which, like you, I'd like more of. Especially when it comes to tarot as a tool to know oneself better, to enjoy it from its artistic value and enjoyment. Have you thought about starting a Meetup? I have never done that myself but some folks have found Meetups successful in finding like minded individuals.
Also, I am with you regarding some readers. I chuckle when they call themselves "professional". I am not sure one is ever a professional to read such an open ended tool as tarot. Also, yes, they sometimes get preachy for whatever reason, perhaps assuming themselves as an "advanced" practitioner or whatever. I am of the opinion that all talk is self talk so I am sure their experience will be infused in a reading for another. It's a complex and multilayered topic this tarot thing.. :) I appreciate your authenticity and pondering on such issues. Thank you
Thank you. Well said.
I don’t see any controversy here, Robin, I think there is (or should be) room for many perspectives and approaches to how tarot can be used. I almost exclusively read for myself but I will read for people I know if they ask me, and sometimes I long for more opportunities to read for others-not for money, but sometimes I feel like there is only so much personal reflection I can handle in a useful way and I’d like to be able to use my decks more and help other people in some way. (I don’t want to start a channel though because I would find that too demanding/overwhelming.) I hope you are able to find the group of like-minded individuals you’re looking for. Maybe you could be the one to start a group in your area? When I lived in the US my local library had a tarot person come and give an intro to tarot talk a few times, maybe you could ask your local library if they would be interested or if they would let you put up a flyer on their bulletin board about starting a group?
Labels can be helpful, but sometimes they're limiting. What I hear is that you read cards for personal growth and insight. Myself, and many of my peeps, have the same approach. Living within late-stage capitalism is the only reason I don’t offer readings for freewill
donations.
LOL. Listen to me, I didn't mean to sound so whiny. hahaha. Lighten up!
I don't know if you're being contentious. I can see where you're coming from. Have you tried looking at your local metaphysical books spots for some kind of club or group? It seems like the city would be filled with people who meet your criteria. I live in a tiny city, very agricultural and conservative... but my little bookstores are pretty cool. Yes, mostly women, but the occasional guy or three. I like a good t-shirt. It does kind-of advertise what you like, and it can be a great conversation starter. It seems to me, that there's more and more people on-line doing their Tarot thing, so we have choices. I find myself enjoying the fun of tarot tags... and every once in a while doing some reading. .. mostly as a; you show me yours, I will show you mine, exercise. I have not made a lot of money with my practice, but when reading at a fair, or a party, I tend to put my fortune teller hat on. It is what is expected. I do try to give sound advice, and not break into unhealthy or harmful directions... but some people want that, and it does come up. Otherwise, it gets a bit boring and samey. That might be what you are seeing in said reading channels. 😅
I am also a big fan of tyrannosaurus rex
This was an interesting video Robin. I like the idea of doing interactive walkthroughs of decks, it’s nice to get other opinions 🥰
An interesting perspective. You mention your interest in Jung and I heard somewhere (can't recall where) that studying Tarot for yourself as opposed to reading for others reflects the introversion/extraversion continuum. I don't have any evidence to support that other than as an introvert myself I have only ever once read for somebody else!
I’m not personally in alignment with your perspective of tarot (although I think it is equally as valid). But I wanted to share that my tarot teacher’s tarot teacher (my grandparent teacher) has a very strict policy of not ever reading for others, but he offers to teach people how to read for themselves if ever they ask him to read for them. So, you aren’t alone, there are other tarot proficient people who are personally opposed to reading for others. Perhaps exploring esoteric communities could help you find such people??? Like maybe you have a theosophical society around there???