Thats cool but I don't do drugs so I like my face the way it is. :). Having tat's is cool sure but not having tats is cool too. Not everyone needs them; maybe they like the way they look w/out tats n scarification... I know I look better without.
You can tell she doesn't know why many South Koreans, especially the older ones, dislike tattoos. There's history there, and this documentary could have been good if it was touched on in the slightest. (For those of you that don't know, tattoos were forced upon Korean slaves, especially Korean women, during Imperial Japanese occupation of the country, which started in 1910 and didn't end until 1945.) Without this knowledge, it's easy to label South Korea as a hypocritcal nation that is okay with cosmetic surgery and not tattoos. This history is important, and often forgotten. In fact, a lot of Korean people are unaware of this - they just continue to perpetuate the stigma their parents and grandparents hold. I highly recommend reading "A Story of a Comfort Woman - Tattoo." It's deeply upsetting, but very informative. Edit: This comment is two years old, I recognize its flaws and my own limited worldview and shortcomings in terms of diction when typing the original comment. That being said, I will not argue with anyone in the comments lmao
I love finding gems of knowledge like this in the comments! I know why I'm judged here in the States for my tattoos but now knowing how the people in this part of the world feel about tattoos and why, I would know not to make a social faux pas if I went there. Thanks for the info!
I just watched a clip about how Women on the island of Timor was forced into tattooing thier bodies to escape the imperial Japanese during ww2 knowing tattoos had a meaning...If a woman was tattooed, that meant she was married so, they couldn't be taken and used as sex slaves or comfort women for the Japanese imperialists. Although they were single, they didn't want to be taken like the thousands of other woman during that time so enduring the pain and all, They tattooed themselves and was spared from a devastating fate. It was a very moving video clip. I'm happy another person mentioned something along the lines of this. Knowledge is power and the more people know. The better 👑❤
That's probably true to some extent. But that doesn't mean it wasn't genuine or real. I have found that I won't react with as much anger when others can see me as I would have if I were alone or only with a few people I know well. Almost every single time I think back on those moments, I am glad that others were around to make me more accountable. Because they were there, I thought a bit more about my initial reaction. That's almost always a good thing. It has definitely kept me from lashing out in anger and doing/saying something I would need to apologize for later. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until I'm shown otherwise. They could have just sat there angry and quiet, saying very few words.
Her Dad gave her a very Korean response if you know Asian family types. They aren't going to get mad on camera, but if this is what you like, you better succeed and get through all the bullshit. If she does become successfull at tattooing I'm sure her parents will ease up. It's clear they aren't happy but they aren't disowning her, they basically saying, own it then, if you like that. And be the best. Still a lot of weight on that womans shoulders.I wonder how she's doing
Well it's easier to fit in than to stand out. Humans are naturally social creatures, they want to fit in. Standing out and risking excommunication from society (as Gracie has done) takes some guts
@Esteban Outeiral Dias no all you need to do to fit in is to copy other people. Listen to the billboard top 100, follow the top sports, watch RUclips trending, check out the hottest movies, etc. Do that and you'll have no trouble fitting in. On the other hand, while I agree that standing out on it's own is relatively easy, standing out _and_ fitting into social groups is hard.
@Esteban Outeiral Dias doing those basic things is not hard. It may take time but not effort. And if you read my original comment again, my meaning is very clear. It's takes guts to stand out because of the risk of social isolation. On the surface it may seem easy to stand out. But if you stand out in the "wrong" way, you won't have any friends, and that's a tough thing to deal with. So it's all about figuring out the "right" way to stand out, and that's much harder than just copying trends and listening to some pop music.
@@maxithewoowoo What ever makes her feel better about doing what millions of other people have done and every second person has in some areas, the little rebel. You cant throw a rock without hitting a Gracie in Fitzroy Melbourne and hundreds of places like it. Society in general could not care less about what people like Gracie do, Gacie's just like to think they do to make them feel like more of rebel and satisfy the rampant narcissism they have.
Seolji's tattoos are so beautiful. They're absolutely stunning, as is she. And I felt so happy and surprised at how loving and accepting her parents were.
Eve Madden I know! There are entire pages dedicated to children of Asian parents and how abusive they are. But even though this may be true in a general sense, this of course does not reflect every single Asian person or family. I mean, look at how progressive Mahlala Yousefsai's family is. Every country and culture progresses, it's just that some move at different rates and in different ways. 😊
i am an asian, i can tell you she's gonna get a lot of shit after the cameras are gone. Asian parents master in changing behaviours when strangers are around, you'd be extremely surprised to witness their actual selves when they're around their kids
Actually i really like how Grace said that, because she knows it's something unusual. So her response felt like ''i don't need others validation, i like my eyes'' :D
@@soleil7259 I swear Grace is like the nicest person. She looks so edgy but seems to have the sweetest, most pleasant personality. You definitely cannot judge a book by it's cover lol
It's not just a RUclips channel. It's a famous one with a ton of viewers. It's the newer equivalent of a successful TV show. The more views and popularity, the more money they get, and the more they have to spend on production and content.
The dad spinning on the little chair with excitement was the best part of the entire video. It really shows how innocent and creative tattoos really are
No. Just... no. The reason tattoos are illegal is because of slavery. Slavery who’s victims are still alive today. They were forcibly tattooed. Sex slaves who could be actual children were tattooed all over their body to make sure if they ever escaped they’d be brought back or murdered before they could say anything. He wasn’t excited. His body was trying to find an outlet for his rage and shame. They aren’t innocent. His daughter probably got a reprimand like no other.
Also handsome :) but yes I have to agree he carried himself with so much dignity I really respect and admire his courage to move forward...I like how he said it is like rain and you cant stop the rain...very good analogy.
Gracie seems lovely and I enjoyed this documentary. But the rational is very flawed. Here is a young woman who seems to feel that altering her body in many ways makes her feel more like herself. Plastic surgery is exactly the same. Just because it's less "original" doesn't mean it doesn't come from the same desire: to look and feel how one wants to. Tattoos, piercings, plastic surgery, etc, altering your body to fit your preferences is all the same.
But where is that desire coming from, for those who want to get plastic surgery in S. Korea? For the girl in the spa, her parents kept urging her to put on make up, and as stated, other parents gift plastic surgery- so is it then a personal preference or parental/societal pressure? While I don't disagree with your reasoning that this body alteration procedure doesn't have more intrinsic value than that body alteration procedure, I disagree that millions of S. Koreans are getting plastic surgery purely out of personal preference rather than because of a societal/social/peer pressure, i.e., brainwashing by media intended to fuel an industry.
I feel the exact same, I felt it was a little hypocritical her reaction to the young girl's surgery. But then again, perhaps Grace feels her look is a rejection of societal pressure and that the young Korean girl's reasons for surgery are the opposite.
In the brazil episode she did she touches on how plastic surgery is equivalent to body modification. In this episode and the brazil episode she is really focused on the age of when it's done because the body is not fully developed, but over all (at least in my opinion) she seems to be respectful of it.
A lot of men see women purely for they're psyhicality, and women play into it. At least the older generations are honest about it so you know where things are at and you can automatically disengage from them.
yeah but you gotta understand the generation & culture they have come from which has moulded their mentality which will not be changed due to how proud they are to traditions. At the end of the day if you do something to yourself with pure heart & honesty it doesn’t matter what the fuck someone else thinks. It’s your life & your body, no one else should have the right to discourage someone else over their own body but the reality is we live in a society so fuck em
@@fat80832 These poor minds are trying to define themselves by destroying self...it is mutilation. Covet destruction in the best of human crafts it is still destruction. We will experience temprorary satisfaction just as an addict overdoses. It is mechanistically exploitation of human qualities away from human truth. Changing self in this way is existentially an conspiracy against self, an illusion against true self, and only people that are addicted to illusion/lies are drawn to this act. It is just ugly by existential standards, beauty is self, these people are blind to beauty and hide behind self harm to quench their addiction to self hatred and self destruction. Same goes for make up. There is no mastery of anything without fundamental truth, we cannot progress until we connect with the existential mehcanism of honesty. Living life to the fullest is paved through acceptance of existential self.
That was so sexist. I mean, he was a male telling her she’s not worth it. Is no other reason than sexism, the same reason why a woman who’s 30 and not married is seen as a fuck up. Must be so so hard to be a woman in Korea
@@daschund7680 You salty cause she actually might look better than you? Like chill, she has makeup on but you don't know how she looks underneath. Like um???
I feel a lot of heat on the Koreans, specially the old man, in the comments. Truth is that you could find someone like that in most western countries, saying the exact same thing. It's not a Korean or Asian attitude. Also, without historical understanding of tattoos in east Asia (a historical attitude that transformed into a modern tabo) I think people should not be to quick to judge how it is in a culture that we have not grown up in. But at the same time I am glad that acceptance is rising and and old ideas have started to be reexamined.
I didn't get the impression the video was bringing heat to South Korea. I felt they were realistically showing the thoughts, feelings, and attitudes towards body modification on both side's of the spectrum. The reason there's a stigma is because of South Korea's past history involving comfort girl's as slaves and marking them with tattoos to show ownership. It's a disheartening part of their past unfortunately, but shouldn't dictate how people feel today as far as body art is concerned. Freedom of self-expression is a beautiful thing. On a lighter note, your you tube name. Is Jace your birth given name? I'm just curious. It's an unusual name and not one you hear often. The reason I ask is because I named my first born son Jace. I've only ever met another person named Jace when my son was in Jr. high school and we were both surprised. Regardless of what your true birth name is it was fun to see a name that means so much to me being utilised as a you tube name. Take care of you and yours always!
its weird that grace thinks kpops influence on the way people look is so bizarre to her, but respectively, rock culture, pop culture and just generally tattoo culture influences kids as young as 14 to want and get tattooed, I remember being 12 and planning all the tattoos I wanted because all the musicians I liked had them. soooo I mean, I see the dichotomy of beauty culture in korea and tattoo culture in the western world.
exactly, while i agree that the kpop industry can be very overbearing in comparison to other ones on their singers, especially ones in bands, it's not the only country where the looks of celebrities influence and inspire beauty trends like a lot of people make it out to be
When Gracie was in that night club, she ended up talking to that bald guy, I kinda felt as if she didn't quiet get that he REALLY got disowned by his family... he wasn't just joking at all, I would've given him a biiiiiiig hug
kale and, it’s not done in public. Even when she hugs the tattoo artist, it’s only “ok” because no one else is around and he’s quite westernized. It’s just not done.
Yes I'm late to the party but... I'm amazed that someone who got her first tattoo at fourteen (and has done some major body modifications which will be with her for life, better or worse) is acting like a twenty-something, educated woman getting a nose job or eyelid surgery or Botox is such a shocking and appalling act. The irony here is ludicrous!
it's not so much the twenty-something educated woman who is getting the procedure done - it's the idea that plastic surgery is a common gift for high school students. that's the shocking part, not that an adult is making a decision to have a cosmetic procedure done.
@@kayleighgriva4817 who are you to tell them its insecurity. Why can Grace pierce, scar, paint her body however she wants but someone cant fix, mold their body to their liking. I personally would never get surgery and I'm pretty against it. But who am I to go to a different country and shame people for behaving how they behave. No one tells white women to stop filling their lips and asses.
I don't understand how she got tattoos when she was 14 yrs old and yet is judging the girl who got Botox at 18 saying they are too young to change they're bodies. It boggles my mind
TheDragonfly8712 I think it’s more of her speaking from experience not out of judgement. She got tattoos young, as did I and although I don’t regret them I wish I had waited and done them when I was older and knew all the risks, but getting it done at the age I did was illegal. Botox isn’t. And tattoos are rarely if ever pushed on people botox is very much pushed on people in Asia. She said in one of her previous videos that getting her modifications wasn’t just about the art and the look she wanted to achieve it was knowing if she could deal with people looking down on her for that then she could deal with anything, the pressure to have or not have these things done is what she’s mostly upset about more than the modifications itself
Because the Korean girl did it to fit in, to match the Korean beauty standards. Grace transformed her body out of her own will, not because she was pushed into it.
Plastic surgery in Korea is used to fit in to their country's beauty standards. Tattoos are used to stand out, to be unique. They are used to express and expand who you are as a person, not to hide and change yourself because you are not good enough according to society.
we always expect gang members and tattooed ppl to look a certain way. I guess it shows that the criminals can literally be the next guy walking beside us...at least I feel as shocked.
It’s a really interesting video and well done, but I find it hypocritical to judge people for getting plastic surgery when you literally have tattooed eyeballs. Every culture has a standard of fitting in and there will always be people who will go to extremes to either fit the mold or stand out.
this comment was made a year ago and while i agree with you to an extent, the culture surrounding plastic surgery is built entirely on making primarily young girls insecure about their bodies and faces. going to extreme measures to “”fit the mold”” is a toxic mindset. the culture surrounding it tells young girls that they arent beautiful and they need to be skinnier or their nose needs to be smaller or their eyebrows are too low or their chin is too uneven. its Harmful. getting your eyeballs tattooed is a far different subject. the culture surrounding tattoos and piercings and those types of body mods is a Lot less harmful. just because a culture had a standard of fitting in does not mean that standard isnt incredibly harmful to young people in said culture.
I love how her Dad was saying that they don't oppose her, just that they worry others will oppose her or judge her That they hope that she can change the opinions of the public, they don't fight her, they just ask her how she plans to deal with it and then wish her the best Honestly she and her parents handled all of it so well and it was so heartwarming to watch.
Honestly I think she looks prettier with all the tattoos and modifications in comparison to the edited photos of her. How someone chooses to expresses themselves through art is part of who they are. She’s beautiful
16:19 The story of this guy is actually sad, especially when he mentioned his relashionship with his dad. Personally, I've never understood why most parents want to control the physical image of their children when it's just a way of being authentic in this formated society.
Isn't he(the illegal tattoo artist) putting himself at risk by showing his face here? btw, I love this girl's tattoos. They're so stylish and intricate *___*
xan in da lean why is it that whenever 2 people of the same sex show genuine affection for one another, someone inevitably says the unoriginal, and ignorant comment, "I think Blank lowkey has a crush on Blank, tee hee!". Jesus. Women have very intense and loving friendships with one another, and men do too, when no one is around to judge them.
@@veggiesarefruits I agree with what you're saying, but there was a scene that Grace was touching all over on her in a club. My thoughts definitely went there as well.
22:30 the father handled the situation extremely well, I was holding my breathe initially and when he spoke such collected words, and with such tranquility, I literally felt the biggest wave of relief. I wish all parents were this understanding for the sake of Korea's youth wanting to break out of the oppression of old customs.
right? parents just dont want to see their child go through a harder time than they need to. life is already hard. but they were so sweet and understanding.
exactly, so let's apply this statement to ourself, not assume others around ourself are being judgemental towards us and if our perceptions mislead us into thinking we are not accepted, let's just notice that we are not accepting ourself and that we are simply showing then our inner disconfort.
Soulji is gonna get a good scolding from her parents after this blue eyed girl is gone. Her parents had to act like this because of the cameras pointed at them (most of our parents does this as they are not camera friendly). The dad is gonna blow up later. This is not a movie where one westerner comes to your house to convince, then you 'talk' it out and things get better. This doesn't happen with Asians. We have to lay our grounds, build up, layer it and gradually things will get adjusted. One talk doesn't change years of principles, mindset and traditions. The thing the westerners doesn't understand is that it's different being an Asian. You have a long chain of ancestries and traditions and culture that you need to carry and protect along with your personal views. Any stigma or rules takes time to get wiped off and so will the tattoo scene in Korea. But u cannot just push it right away and demand to be accepted because that will generate more hatred than acceptance. Just take yourself on their shoes, imagine yourself believing on a set of principles all through your life, the dark history of your ancestors, the pain they suffered, your respect towards their soul, you bringing up your child with all these values.. And suddenly your child brings someone else from a different culture to witness her confessions of doing something you were always against and taught her better. How would you feel? It takes time. (The child has done nothing wrong inking her body.. I just wanted to say, being a rebellion is not always the answer. She could have done it without the blue eyed girl or atleast let her parents know about her beforehand. I was very uncomfortable too because her parents were uncomfortable ).
Yea maybe her parents are actually chill but I agree. I also see it as extremely disrespectful to bring a heavily tattooed person in front of Korean elders without complete and total consent. I was absolutely disgusted the entire time by how they portrayed Korea as stuck up and stingy as if there is not an extremely well known, recent, and dark history of tattoos there. Absolutely inexcusable and shameful.
@@samanthapeterson1444 I hear you and understand what you are saying. This happens to us also. Not all Asians have stuck with their traditions. I have realised this in a hard way. When u r in a foreign country, your roots save you, when the holidays come your traditions save you, when your kid has been asked to do a project on your ancestors, your culture saves you.. It's nothing wrong with being modern or a westerner (we call the people with modern culture from the west of our continent as westerner.. it's not in bad term), but it feels good you know.... I love how the Indigenous people embraces their culture.. I just hope all the good things of the history are carried forward with time and not the racist ugly shits that some of our forefathers did or practiced. 💚
okay but she was asked to do it with her lmao grace didn't just butt in like let me pls film all this with u but go off. and not just asian countries have very set values and principles. ways they look at people and how they should be, this can be said about a lot of other countries. if you mean america when you refer to westerners then clarify because then i will agree. grace is not saying this one convo will change everything because old people are stubborn and tradition is hard to kill. i got it from the film that she understood that. i think what she was saying is that it's a start and change is possible. which it is, even if the progress is slower in korea. you don't make changes without taking steps.
yeh because like every tribe, the more close minded the more you resist to "new things", it's not asian related, western country did a lot of self work to stop the tribalistic thing for growth art & science.
Asian is not the only country not my ancestors but father hated tattoos I had them and had to hide them from him I was an adult women but still had to hide them for a peaceful life
Grace seems to be the best example of "don't judge a book by it's cover" she looks so extreme and maybe scary to some. but she's really so sweet and humble. i love that
I love alternative culture so much. It's so easy to bond with complete strangers, most people couldn't imagine taking someone someone they only just met along to their parents for emotional support
I love Grace but I think it’s hypocritical of her to criticize young girls wanting/getting cosmetic surgery while she’s all in for body modifications like tattoos, piercings, etc. While she got her first tattoo at 14. Idk it’s weird.
lina gonzalez tattoos and body modifications celebrate people’s differences. Surgery is a way for Koreans to fit in better in a society who has a very narrow opinion on what is acceptable and what is not. It’s an underlying problem that spans across a number of very serious issues in Korea. Everyone needs good grades, a good college, a good job, a good heterosexual relationship and beautiful, successful children with no mental illnesses. There’s is one right way to live you life, and it has turned Korea into an extremely competitive society with very little room for finding your own path. There is a reason why they have the highest rating of suicide in the world.
Exactly. It was like she lost all credibility for being able to critical thinking at that point. She doesn’t seem very old but risked her vision by a self-admitted rarely done procedure but is worried about the health of girls having procedures done (at probably the same age) by medical professionals.
It's the difference in reasoning though. Yes she has had extreme procedures, but she isn't a teenage girl, and she did it as an appreciation for art and using her body as a canvas. These young girls are changing the way they are out of INSECURITY and the need to "look prettier" which is much more toxic, so I can see why she thinks it's an "extreme" thing to do, because society says so.
She literally said it was extreme because they were young. You don’t have the full ability to look around corners until you’re around 23. Yeah she has ink in her eyes, but she was able to fully comprehend the chance of blindness because she was an adult.
people who get tattoos get them because that’s what they want to look like. For them having tattoos is their ideal self. Their ideal self is achieved through tattoos. For people who get plastic surgery, their ideal self will be achieved through plastic surgery. So how is it any different? Honestly I felt grace was biased when she talked about plastic surgery cause in both cases both women are modifying their body to do what they love, because they have the right to do so since it’s their body. There are definitely girls in Korea who are being pressured but that doesn’t mean the majority of those getting plastic surgery are pressured. It’s double standard to not want to be judged for her tattoos and body mods and then go and judge others because their surgery is towards a different goal
Weird how plastic surgery is commonplace, yet tattoos are a big taboo. To me seems much less extreme putting ink on your skin than changing your appearance. I guess it's just a difference in cultures. ALSO PLEASE, anyone tell me where she got that white coat??? It's gorgeous.
So true! Most people just can't accept what they think is "unusual" to their perceptions., they don't want to understand it either so they just judge them.,
Am korean. 1/3 of girls I saw in college had at some form of cosmetic surgery. I once suggested the idea of getting a tattoo to my parents and it was like telling them I was interested in making porn lol
I'm sorry to say, but I think the statements are a bit one-sided, kinda poorly researched and definitely not complex enough. These problems are not just based on the (100 times mentioned) K-Pop. It is about complex political and cultural differences. European ideas cannot be easily transferred into different countries and social systems. It was hard for me to watch and I feel there is a lack of respect in a way. When we want to express our individualism in our beauty extremes, please allow a country to grow and develop in their way. It takes a long time to understand a society.
Exactly. Her argument is over simplified. This is what happens when anyone wants to play journalist because they have a RUclips channel and dont have proper training to truly understand these things
I do get your point. But I think she was trying to explore that very question and not assume she knows everything. If she was Korean would you have felt the same way? I do understand why plastic surgery is very popular and I actually understand why so many people get it done. But at the same time, I do wish there was less pressure (whether thats due to K-pop, politics, culture etc) I still wish there was less pressure.. and not just in Korea.. everywhere in the world. The pressure to look good on the outside, I think especially for woman in most cultures, but seemingly more and more pressure for men too, has to be talked about. I personally am glad that there are people who are brave enough to speak out and say that this kind of pressure on young people is too much. Whats on the inside is so much more important.. just think one day you will be old, wrinkly and most likely you won't look 'good', and at that point people who are with partners and have friends who care more about the inside then the outside are the people that have a happy life later on. If you focus too much on the outside, at old age you will be depressed and think of yourself as somehow worse off then when you were younger, which is sad because old people have the longest time to really develop a beautiful mind through life experience. Not to mention what a waste of money. All the money spent on plastic surgery could have been used to have a beautiful experience.. like an amazing once in a lifetime holiday etc.
i think you're right in that you have to look closely at culture and not come from a western-centric sort of view, however what i believe she was trying to explain was that the problems are not based in kpop promoting a certain type of mainstream beauty, but that tattoos and alternative beauty in general are something that will only be accepted as people are brave enough to stand up and say that it's okay and should not be so criticized. by showing seoulji and her parents, i think she really exposed the fact that it isn't kpop that's shaping mainstream beauty culture or keeping tattoos taboo, but that its fear of being persecuted and estranged from society because not enough people across generations are talking about it. but with open conversation, we can bridge a generational and ideological gap that hold the misunderstandings and stigma, and create a mutual respect and acceptance for each other's choice of expression. this was also very evident in the last story with the girl and her dad who mentioned having had wanted a tattoo in his youth but finding himself in a community silent about their opinions on it and feeling like he would have no support and thus stifled his expression. this journalist spent only a short segment on an interview with the kpop star and even then they still talked more about public reception and his family's reception rather than he is challenging the trends kpop has 'created' because i dont think she was arguing that.
Many Kpop Idols have tattoos tho ;) Dont blame KPOP for everything. We r all just people. Some going extreme to look better, some extend their look, some keep it. so what, we are all free human beings.
Beauty stardards in korea have nothing to do with kpop tbh, the biggest issue is how important looks are to get a job, being an idol is also a job and they have to meet korean beauty standards as well, in fact plastic surgery is not really THAT common in idols but entertainment agencies only debut really good looking people and there's tons of predebut pics from every idol that show they've always looked good, there's even a visual role in every group and it's given to the member who meets this beauty standard the most, they don't really get as much surgery as western artists for sure tbh but yeah korea's beauty industry is huge but it's not about kpop or kdramas
I went to Korea about two years ago and I have tattoos, 2 of my biggest ones being on my arm. I heard so many things about tattoos in Korea and prepared lots of long-sleeve clothes. I was staying in Hongdae for most of my time there and I was surprisingly shocked to see quite a few Koreans with tattoos and flaunting them. Some even had full sleeves. I loved it. And what is amazing is that this generation has to suffer a bit with having tattoos and getting ridiculed. But just think, the next generation won't have to worry about it as much. The views on tattoos has already begun to change over there and once the older generation is gone (that sounds horrible, i know, sorry) it won't be looked down upon as much.
+Libby Mottu Tattooing is arguably "peaking" within this generation, or maybe by the next, to the extent that it's possible that many of our current society's (hypothetical) grandchildren will rebel against the practice and prefer to think of tattoos as that weird, gross thing "old people" used to do when they were young.
I think it's so lovely how she took your hand, when you guys walked through the spa ❤ you must have felt out of place and it must have taken a lot of courage for her as well. But she didn't want you to feel too alone 🙈
Her parents are angels! They are so understanding and supportive of her daughter. I love how well her mother was able to explain that her concerns did not revolve around her daughter suddenly becoming a criminal, but rather around the negativity that is connected to something her daughter likes and whether she would be safe looking what she looks like. Very beautiful to see.
I actually don’t find her hypocritical at all. she’s advocating for personal standards of beauty and self love rather than society’s beauty standards. she’s like a manifestation of everything traditional society looks down in yet she’s so beautiful and angelic. as for the eye tattoos being more dangerous than plastic surgeries, it was a choice that she made by her own standards which is really important. i don’t think there’s anything wrong with surgery or tattoos but she really gives a new perspective on the motivations behind beauty choices.
@@ilonaarsenivna6156 lol this video got me feeling all types of way. This is a form of colonization. Telling these asians you're primitive for thinking tattoos are bad but how dare you get plastic surgery to look good 🤔🤔🤨. Smh
@@baybeetacoo8734 lol ok. Why do people of color obsess over White people so damned much while we don't think of you at all? RENT FREE in your minds. Obsess over us more. "Neo-colonization" my ass. PLEASE tell me where Grace said that she thinks plastic surgery is extreme. She said that she doesn't think these people should undergo extreme changes because of pre-defined beauty standards. So, in order to spell it out for a low-IQ moron like yourself, she is saying that being forced to follow objective, standardized beauty is extreme and bad, not plastic surgery.
Personally I think, tattoo and body modification is just the same with wearing makeup, clothes or even plastic surgery. We all want to be more, more special, more beautiful, more unique and so on. All I can think is great video but stop comparing your tattoo with korean make up or plastic surgery too much, because you guys basicly doing a similar thing which is modifying your natural appearance.
Hanun Soraya I don't really think that she means that tattoos are better than surgery what she means is that koreans are mainly having surgery because of the pressure society is putting on them while she had tattoos because she enjoyed doing them no one actually pressures you to have tattoos
Can we talk about how gentle and loving almost instantly Grace is with her new Korean girlfriends. So affectionate and sweet. Its really darling to watch :)
OMGITSGB I think the only difference is that she was an adult when she chose to get these things done.. a lot of teenagers will go with what’s trending and end up making these permanent decisions without thinking about the consequences. I think it was less judge mental and more of an awareness to not get wrapped up in making your body what others want it to be. At least that’s how I heard it
The point is that the teenagers are supposedly being pressured to conform to beauty standards. Grace's situation is different because she chose to undergo those changes. Whether it was when she was also a teen or an adult, there was clearly no societal pressure for the changes she chose.
Thelma .exe. She’s straight up shaming South Korea for being aggressively against tattoos despite their being a damn good reason and literally no way she wouldn’t know. Before Koreans were forced into (mainly sex) slavery they were forcibly and painfully tattooed. These are people that are still alive today. Korea has only just begun to heal for a horrible injustice. He refusal to mention that as well as continually gawking at how offended they are is forcing her ideal where they absolutely do not belong.
Yes, it's actually an Spanish saying which tries to convey that we shouldn't worry too much about what has already happened or been done to us and focus on the present instead.
24:21 Such a beautiful moment to share with a person you met the night before! Love the authenticity of emotions they shared and the safe space she created❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes but a lot of western parents don't like tattoos ether they see it as something bad too my father did not like tattoos and I had to hide them for my mother's sake as he could get violent to her so I couldn't say for her sake
I did a extensive research finale paper for one of my university classes and I’ve learned in the process that tattoo is not only frowned upon in other countries but in upper classes. I researched why and I found that tattoos in most countries have a horrendous past with them. For example a lot of Asian countries have negative opinions on them because when Japans invasions where happening they branded women with tattoos. There’s quite a lot of pain the older generation holds in Korea not only because of the tattoos but because Japan refuses to take responsibility for some of the things they did. In other countries you look unprofessional. I spoke to some higher class people that have said if you look into it not many high profile CEO’s or higher ups have tattoos. There is still lingering stigma around tattoos. What these younger generations are doing is taking back their nations identity by getting inked. Almost if they are not allowing it to become deeply imbedded in negativity. I loved this documentary but I think a lot more research had to be done to see why older generations feel the way they do
Okay. I absolutely ADORE grace neutral and am in love with learning about the way other cultures express and value different modalities of beauty. but - when she is in the hot tub and discussing plastic surgery withthe one girl does she not realize that she's covered in plastic surgery and surgical procedures that alter her look to fit into what she seems"more herself" or prettier or closer to what she needs. how is itNy different? it makes her uncomfortable but she is covered in the north American alternative version of plastic surgery
I find this so interesting though because it's like the opposite ends of the spectrum. Where as in Korea they surgically alter their appearance to conform to social norms, in the west people do the same with the intention to break away from society's norm. I find both equally disturbing since they both indicate a certain amount of discomfort in one's own skin.
I mean, not necessarily. There are definitely people who get tattoos to cope with personal insecurities, but that's not everyone. Some people just view their bodies as a canvas that they can have fun with! :)
Tattoos and piercings are not plastic surgery... wtf. They don't require major surgery or anything. That is just silly. You aren't completely changing your body... you're just adding to it.
She says in that same scene that it primarily bothers her because of how young the girls feeling pressured into having plastic surgery are. That’s not a double standard but rather a concern about very young people’s self-image.
This was a fantastic video. When you met the girls parents it brought up so much. Even in Canada you still deal with some discrimination, and I remember how bad it was 25 years ago when I started covering myself and altering myself away from conventional beauty. Thanks for this video.
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Thats cool but I don't do drugs so I like my face the way it is. :). Having tat's is cool sure but not having tats is cool too. Not everyone needs them; maybe they like the way they look w/out tats n scarification... I know I look better without.
This is such a beautiful video
It's not available 🥲
You can tell she doesn't know why many South Koreans, especially the older ones, dislike tattoos. There's history there, and this documentary could have been good if it was touched on in the slightest. (For those of you that don't know, tattoos were forced upon Korean slaves, especially Korean women, during Imperial Japanese occupation of the country, which started in 1910 and didn't end until 1945.) Without this knowledge, it's easy to label South Korea as a hypocritcal nation that is okay with cosmetic surgery and not tattoos. This history is important, and often forgotten. In fact, a lot of Korean people are unaware of this - they just continue to perpetuate the stigma their parents and grandparents hold.
I highly recommend reading "A Story of a Comfort Woman - Tattoo." It's deeply upsetting, but very informative.
Edit: This comment is two years old, I recognize its flaws and my own limited worldview and shortcomings in terms of diction when typing the original comment. That being said, I will not argue with anyone in the comments lmao
I love finding gems of knowledge like this in the comments! I know why I'm judged here in the States for my tattoos but now knowing how the people in this part of the world feel about tattoos and why, I would know not to make a social faux pas if I went there. Thanks for the info!
Wow, thank you for the education.
same.. the heavy bias in the interviews themselves really jarred me
I just watched a clip about how Women on the island of Timor was forced into tattooing thier bodies to escape the imperial Japanese during ww2 knowing tattoos had a meaning...If a woman was tattooed, that meant she was married so, they couldn't be taken and used as sex slaves or comfort women for the Japanese imperialists. Although they were single, they didn't want to be taken like the thousands of other woman during that time so enduring the pain and all, They tattooed themselves and was spared from a devastating fate. It was a very moving video clip. I'm happy another person mentioned something along the lines of this. Knowledge is power and the more people know. The better 👑❤
You learn something nw everyday. Thank You.
i feel like the parents were lowkey thinking she was coming out of the closet and Grace was her gf...
Di Lu OMG SAME
Di Lu I was really like, ‘girl they think you into women’
SAMEEEEEEEEEE LOL
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Lmfao fr
Maybe I'm just cynical, but a part of me feels her parents responded that way because there was a camera on them.
AOS Gaming I’m not sure, I feel like they will face more backlash from people around them for supporting her
Jo T. v.Z. As a Korean daughter myself, I can relate to this 100%. I feel like you might right.
That's probably true to some extent. But that doesn't mean it wasn't genuine or real. I have found that I won't react with as much anger when others can see me as I would have if I were alone or only with a few people I know well. Almost every single time I think back on those moments, I am glad that others were around to make me more accountable. Because they were there, I thought a bit more about my initial reaction. That's almost always a good thing. It has definitely kept me from lashing out in anger and doing/saying something I would need to apologize for later. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until I'm shown otherwise. They could have just sat there angry and quiet, saying very few words.
Then it was a great decision that they were there. The moral support helped alleviate the situation maybe even for just a few moments.
Her Dad gave her a very Korean response if you know Asian family types. They aren't going to get mad on camera, but if this is what you like, you better succeed and get through all the bullshit. If she does become successfull at tattooing I'm sure her parents will ease up. It's clear they aren't happy but they aren't disowning her, they basically saying, own it then, if you like that. And be the best. Still a lot of weight on that womans shoulders.I wonder how she's doing
“I don’t know if they’re freak out of my tattoos or if I’m wearing a burberry coat on a spa” WEIRD FLEX BUT OK
The subtitles say barbarian coat so I was confused as to if she was flexing or if trenchcoats were also called barbarian coats
thought the same.
Exactly. Cringe
Ahahah I’m dying
Astrid or her eyes! She forgets about her eyes all the time lol its funny seeing her remember
i wonder what they'd think of Jeffree Star
clown who dumbed down alternative culture
Maaaannn hahaha. Yeah. Jeffree Star has a full body tattoo.
@@Clariccy says the nobody with no unique style and no mass of fans following your social media
@@Clariccy boi bye
Freak show
Kinda Ironic that someone that does everything to standout talking about someone that does everything to fit in. Kinda both sides of the same coin.
Well it's easier to fit in than to stand out. Humans are naturally social creatures, they want to fit in. Standing out and risking excommunication from society (as Gracie has done) takes some guts
@Esteban Outeiral Dias no all you need to do to fit in is to copy other people. Listen to the billboard top 100, follow the top sports, watch RUclips trending, check out the hottest movies, etc. Do that and you'll have no trouble fitting in. On the other hand, while I agree that standing out on it's own is relatively easy, standing out _and_ fitting into social groups is hard.
@Esteban Outeiral Dias doing those basic things is not hard. It may take time but not effort. And if you read my original comment again, my meaning is very clear. It's takes guts to stand out because of the risk of social isolation. On the surface it may seem easy to stand out. But if you stand out in the "wrong" way, you won't have any friends, and that's a tough thing to deal with. So it's all about figuring out the "right" way to stand out, and that's much harder than just copying trends and listening to some pop music.
100%
@@maxithewoowoo What ever makes her feel better about doing what millions of other people have done and every second person has in some areas, the little rebel. You cant throw a rock without hitting a Gracie in Fitzroy Melbourne and hundreds of places like it. Society in general could not care less about what people like Gracie do, Gacie's just like to think they do to make them feel like more of rebel and satisfy the rampant narcissism they have.
THAT GIRL AT 1:26 IM DECEASED
Looks like she just saw a unicorn pooping rainbows
lmfao gotcha bro me see the face be like .. uugh. WaaWOT!!!!!! DA FEK
Tecla Okoro Had too rewind to see and fell off my chair laughing! To be fair, if I hadn't ever heard of her, my reaction would be similar
i wouldn't have seen her if it wasn't for this comment, i can't stop laughing
Tecla Okoro Oh God 😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
Seolji's tattoos are so beautiful. They're absolutely stunning, as is she. And I felt so happy and surprised at how loving and accepting her parents were.
Eve Madden I know! There are entire pages dedicated to children of Asian parents and how abusive they are. But even though this may be true in a general sense, this of course does not reflect every single Asian person or family. I mean, look at how progressive Mahlala Yousefsai's family is. Every country and culture progresses, it's just that some move at different rates and in different ways. 😊
Honestly that was probably because cameras/media reporters were there.
lmao xD
@@buzzlightyearandco Pls do your research. The truth is the opposite of what you think
i am an asian, i can tell you she's gonna get a lot of shit after the cameras are gone. Asian parents master in changing behaviours when strangers are around, you'd be extremely surprised to witness their actual selves when they're around their kids
K'girl: "Look at your eyes"
i-D host: "Your eyes are beautiful too"
K-girl:""did I say beautiful?""
SISYPHUS VASILIAS why are her eyes like that ?
@@rosadestina7007 Because she wants them like that
@@rosadestina7007 i think it’s inked, very dangerous type of tattooing
Actually i really like how Grace said that, because she knows it's something unusual. So her response felt like ''i don't need others validation, i like my eyes'' :D
@@soleil7259 I swear Grace is like the nicest person. She looks so edgy but seems to have the sweetest, most pleasant personality. You definitely cannot judge a book by it's cover lol
jesus, how does a yt channel afford this level of filmmaking?
this is gorgeous
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It's not just a RUclips channel. It's a famous one with a ton of viewers. It's the newer equivalent of a successful TV show. The more views and popularity, the more money they get, and the more they have to spend on production and content.
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I always come back to this film for a multitude of reasons, but can we talk about how BEAUTIFULLY SHOT THIS IS??? Holy shit!
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Agreed!!!
Damn straight!
The dad spinning on the little chair with excitement was the best part of the entire video. It really shows how innocent and creative tattoos really are
When did he spin on the chair I couldn't see it ?
No. Just... no. The reason tattoos are illegal is because of slavery. Slavery who’s victims are still alive today. They were forcibly tattooed. Sex slaves who could be actual children were tattooed all over their body to make sure if they ever escaped they’d be brought back or murdered before they could say anything.
He wasn’t excited. His body was trying to find an outlet for his rage and shame. They aren’t innocent. His daughter probably got a reprimand like no other.
@@oppaloopa3698 you're a fucking idiot lol
Lau Ste just because u don’t agree with them doesn’t mean u need to call them a “fucking idiot” :/
@@meeyapeeya1353 they are a fucking idiot
1:26 HAHAHAHAH I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED THE GIRL ON THE LEFTS FACE
thats how i look when i see the road i was supos to turn at but passed completly lmao
Lol 😂
Oh my god that's amazing
That’s me when I see someone eating some bomb ass looking food and I’m hoping they offer me some haha
I laughed so hard at this moment! ahahahhaahahaha!
That tattoo artist guy is cool as hell
I've been, it is hot not cool.
Greg ikr I love his tattoos as well
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Also handsome :) but yes I have to agree he carried himself with so much dignity I really respect and admire his courage to move forward...I like how he said it is like rain and you cant stop the rain...very good analogy.
Gracie seems lovely and I enjoyed this documentary. But the rational is very flawed. Here is a young woman who seems to feel that altering her body in many ways makes her feel more like herself. Plastic surgery is exactly the same. Just because it's less "original" doesn't mean it doesn't come from the same desire: to look and feel how one wants to. Tattoos, piercings, plastic surgery, etc, altering your body to fit your preferences is all the same.
But where is that desire coming from, for those who want to get plastic surgery in S. Korea? For the girl in the spa, her parents kept urging her to put on make up, and as stated, other parents gift plastic surgery- so is it then a personal preference or parental/societal pressure? While I don't disagree with your reasoning that this body alteration procedure doesn't have more intrinsic value than that body alteration procedure, I disagree that millions of S. Koreans are getting plastic surgery purely out of personal preference rather than because of a societal/social/peer pressure, i.e., brainwashing by media intended to fuel an industry.
@@JbProxy001 very valid point!
seriously. I hate these white people coming to foreign countries and judging their decisions when they do the same thing.
I feel the exact same, I felt it was a little hypocritical her reaction to the young girl's surgery. But then again, perhaps Grace feels her look is a rejection of societal pressure and that the young Korean girl's reasons for surgery are the opposite.
In the brazil episode she did she touches on how plastic surgery is equivalent to body modification. In this episode and the brazil episode she is really focused on the age of when it's done because the body is not fully developed, but over all (at least in my opinion) she seems to be respectful of it.
Imagine being reduced to a pretty face and nice body by a stranger and them saying it so proudly.
I felt for her in that moment.. And the way he looked at her broke my heart and infuriated me 😡
A lot of men see women purely for they're psyhicality, and women play into it. At least the older generations are honest about it so you know where things are at and you can automatically disengage from them.
yeah but you gotta understand the generation & culture they have come from which has moulded their mentality which will not be changed due to how proud they are to traditions. At the end of the day if you do something to yourself with pure heart & honesty it doesn’t matter what the fuck someone else thinks. It’s your life & your body, no one else should have the right to discourage someone else over their own body but the reality is we live in a society so fuck em
@@fat80832 These poor minds are trying to define themselves by destroying self...it is mutilation. Covet destruction in the best of human crafts it is still destruction. We will experience temprorary satisfaction just as an addict overdoses. It is mechanistically exploitation of human qualities away from human truth. Changing self in this way is existentially an conspiracy against self, an illusion against true self, and only people that are addicted to illusion/lies are drawn to this act. It is just ugly by existential standards, beauty is self, these people are blind to beauty and hide behind self harm to quench their addiction to self hatred and self destruction. Same goes for make up. There is no mastery of anything without fundamental truth, we cannot progress until we connect with the existential mehcanism of honesty. Living life to the fullest is paved through acceptance of existential self.
That was so sexist. I mean, he was a male telling her she’s not worth it. Is no other reason than sexism, the same reason why a woman who’s 30 and not married is seen as a fuck up. Must be so so hard to be a woman in Korea
the girl she went with to tell her parents about her tattoos with is so pretty
do you not realise they spend 28 hours a day in front of the mirror doing shit lol
and shes literally eyebrowless under that makeup, she drew on her eyebag and i can go on lmao
Hazel grace why you salty for ?
Yeah. Hale satan
@@daschund7680 You salty cause she actually might look better than you? Like chill, she has makeup on but you don't know how she looks underneath. Like um???
I feel a lot of heat on the Koreans, specially the old man, in the comments. Truth is that you could find someone like that in most western countries, saying the exact same thing. It's not a Korean or Asian attitude.
Also, without historical understanding of tattoos in east Asia (a historical attitude that transformed into a modern tabo) I think people should not be to quick to judge how it is in a culture that we have not grown up in. But at the same time I am glad that acceptance is rising and and old ideas have started to be reexamined.
I didn't get the impression the video was bringing heat to South Korea. I felt they were realistically showing the thoughts, feelings, and attitudes towards body modification on both side's of the spectrum. The reason there's a stigma is because of South Korea's past history involving comfort girl's as slaves and marking them with tattoos to show ownership. It's a disheartening part of their past unfortunately, but shouldn't dictate how people feel today as far as body art is concerned. Freedom of self-expression is a beautiful thing.
On a lighter note, your you tube name. Is Jace your birth given name? I'm just curious. It's an unusual name and not one you hear often. The reason I ask is because I named my first born son Jace. I've only ever met another person named Jace when my son was in Jr. high school and we were both surprised. Regardless of what your true birth name is it was fun to see a name that means so much to me being utilised as a you tube name. Take care of you and yours always!
I don’t think degrading the country was the purpose of the video
its weird that grace thinks kpops influence on the way people look is so bizarre to her, but respectively, rock culture, pop culture and just generally tattoo culture influences kids as young as 14 to want and get tattooed, I remember being 12 and planning all the tattoos I wanted because all the musicians I liked had them. soooo I mean, I see the dichotomy of beauty culture in korea and tattoo culture in the western world.
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Great point
exactly, while i agree that the kpop industry can be very overbearing in comparison to other ones on their singers, especially ones in bands, it's not the only country where the looks of celebrities influence and inspire beauty trends like a lot of people make it out to be
I agree and as she's wearing full face of makeup 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No She got all those bazaar modifications yet she saying regular stings like Botox and nose jobs make her uncomfortable that I didn’t get
When Gracie was in that night club, she ended up talking to that bald guy, I kinda felt as if she didn't quiet get that he REALLY got disowned by his family... he wasn't just joking at all, I would've given him a biiiiiiig hug
lol in korean culture hugging a stranger is super fuckin weird. It's def best she didn't do that
Chy K Why is it weird? Sorry for asking, just curious
stxfi 666 personal space really.
stxfi 666 in asian country, hugging is a deeper form of affection and it can’t really be done casually. Also yeah personal space
kale and, it’s not done in public. Even when she hugs the tattoo artist, it’s only “ok” because no one else is around and he’s quite westernized. It’s just not done.
Yes I'm late to the party but... I'm amazed that someone who got her first tattoo at fourteen (and has done some major body modifications which will be with her for life, better or worse) is acting like a twenty-something, educated woman getting a nose job or eyelid surgery or Botox is such a shocking and appalling act. The irony here is ludicrous!
MC1R Mutant Faerie ones is art and the other is physically changing your physique
ShootMe Either way, it’s drastically changing your appearance. Calling it “art” doesn’t make it any different.
it's not so much the twenty-something educated woman who is getting the procedure done - it's the idea that plastic surgery is a common gift for high school students. that's the shocking part, not that an adult is making a decision to have a cosmetic procedure done.
It's an appreciation for art vs insecurity and social pressure.
@@kayleighgriva4817 who are you to tell them its insecurity. Why can Grace pierce, scar, paint her body however she wants but someone cant fix, mold their body to their liking. I personally would never get surgery and I'm pretty against it. But who am I to go to a different country and shame people for behaving how they behave. No one tells white women to stop filling their lips and asses.
I don't understand how she got tattoos when she was 14 yrs old and yet is judging the girl who got Botox at 18 saying they are too young to change they're bodies. It boggles my mind
TheDragonfly8712 I think it’s more of her speaking from experience not out of judgement. She got tattoos young, as did I and although I don’t regret them I wish I had waited and done them when I was older and knew all the risks, but getting it done at the age I did was illegal. Botox isn’t. And tattoos are rarely if ever pushed on people botox is very much pushed on people in Asia. She said in one of her previous videos that getting her modifications wasn’t just about the art and the look she wanted to achieve it was knowing if she could deal with people looking down on her for that then she could deal with anything, the pressure to have or not have these things done is what she’s mostly upset about more than the modifications itself
She clearly doesn’t want them to make similar mistakes to her. In the beginning, she said here’s what I’d look like if I didn’t “fuck up my face”
You can’t compare surgery to tattoos. Until you need full general anesthesia for a tattoo we have a problem.
Because the Korean girl did it to fit in, to match the Korean beauty standards. Grace transformed her body out of her own will, not because she was pushed into it.
Plastic surgery in Korea is used to fit in to their country's beauty standards. Tattoos are used to stand out, to be unique. They are used to express and expand who you are as a person, not to hide and change yourself because you are not good enough according to society.
I really want to meet Grace one day. She seems like a gentle soul and really cool to hangout with.
sandpitturtle Same here! She seems really nice! And then tattoos on her arms and legs gIVE ME LIFE LIKE THEY AE SO PRETTY
Me too 😍😍 she looks like a BEAUTIFUL person 💖💖
Charnarz
I swear, I would love to meet her.
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I love how the gangster just straight up admitted they would kill people who commit foul play on camera. a badass
I could empathize with him.
I wasn't expecting the gang member with the glasses to have any tattoos
so do i, weird how our judgemental mind works
Haha same, but anyone can have a tattoo actually
I didn't even expect him to be a gang member.. He looks like such a normal dapper guy
we always expect gang members and tattooed ppl to look a certain way. I guess it shows that the criminals can literally be the next guy walking beside us...at least I feel as shocked.
Usually those guys are the most badass
Holy crap the cinematography is stunning
well I personally find it a bit ovecinematographed and overmasturbated. Just a bit ^_^.
It’s a really interesting video and well done, but I find it hypocritical to judge people for getting plastic surgery when you literally have tattooed eyeballs. Every culture has a standard of fitting in and there will always be people who will go to extremes to either fit the mold or stand out.
this comment was made a year ago and while i agree with you to an extent, the culture surrounding plastic surgery is built entirely on making primarily young girls insecure about their bodies and faces. going to extreme measures to “”fit the mold”” is a toxic mindset. the culture surrounding it tells young girls that they arent beautiful and they need to be skinnier or their nose needs to be smaller or their eyebrows are too low or their chin is too uneven. its Harmful. getting your eyeballs tattooed is a far different subject. the culture surrounding tattoos and piercings and those types of body mods is a Lot less harmful. just because a culture had a standard of fitting in does not mean that standard isnt incredibly harmful to young people in said culture.
I love how her Dad was saying that they don't oppose her, just that they worry others will oppose her or judge her
That they hope that she can change the opinions of the public, they don't fight her, they just ask her how she plans to deal with it and then wish her the best
Honestly she and her parents handled all of it so well and it was so heartwarming to watch.
Being Asian I know they went off on her after the Interview, I hope they havent disowned her
@@IqraKhan-vc7lo being Arab. I imagine my parents talking nicely in front of the camera. When the camera is turned off Im like: here we go..
@@melliejenny8047 yep same man
getting a Huge makeover and then go to the spa... SMART
taorist lol
taorist ikr lol
Well yeah... It's relaxing and feels good lol.
I think of you too when I'm on the toilet, V lol
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Honestly I think she looks prettier with all the tattoos and modifications in comparison to the edited photos of her. How someone chooses to expresses themselves through art is part of who they are. She’s beautiful
Fine but no
I agree
16:19 The story of this guy is actually sad, especially when he mentioned his relashionship with his dad.
Personally, I've never understood why most parents want to control the physical image of their children when it's just a way of being authentic in this formated society.
Isn't he(the illegal tattoo artist) putting himself at risk by showing his face here?
btw, I love this girl's tattoos. They're so stylish and intricate *___*
Yah, I was thinking that too.
true, but you'd think someone he knows would recognize him and snitch him out.
in Korea they have many tattoo artists they can't do much about it
I see an ad near me on Facebook a few of them
the gang member is the stupid one
i feel like grace lowkey has a crush on solji lol
xan in da lean why is it that whenever 2 people of the same sex show genuine affection for one another, someone inevitably says the unoriginal, and ignorant comment, "I think Blank lowkey has a crush on Blank, tee hee!". Jesus. Women have very intense and loving friendships with one another, and men do too, when no one is around to judge them.
@@veggiesarefruits I agree with what you're saying, but there was a scene that Grace was touching all over on her in a club. My thoughts definitely went there as well.
God forbid we touch another human being without secretly wanting to fuck them...?
Idk about Grace but I sure do
He is hot 🔥
I got teary eyes when the dad got his first tattoo right after his daughter got her first tattoo ❤❤
tempted to walk into a korean beauty store and just say "help"
Lmao why
@@user-im1jq3lw2l because my skin is terrible
@@thedivinezero4117 felt that
22:30
the father handled the situation extremely well, I was holding my breathe initially and when he spoke such collected words, and with such tranquility, I literally felt the biggest wave of relief.
I wish all parents were this understanding for the sake of Korea's youth wanting to break out of the oppression of old customs.
Stupid people young kids....
Why would you do something that saddened your parents ...
Dang Mr.Kim is one well dressed gangster.
agree , he looks fly as hell
the Korean girl has some of the coolest tattoos iv seen.
solji ( probably misspelled that) is absolutely beautiful and you can tell her parents have a lot of love for her
Sebastian Tinajero u spelled it right king
I hit the Like button just because of that Father! That's A father !
right? parents just dont want to see their child go through a harder time than they need to. life is already hard. but they were so sweet and understanding.
The cinematography just GLUED ME TO THE SCREEN, Amazing!! The story and the presenter is such a sweetheart! Bravo!
The girl at 1:25 to the left is totally judging
in shock I would say ! 😮😂
HAHAHAAHAHHA. THAT FACE MAN, OMG
are you judging her back ?
treat others the way you want to be treated
exactly, so let's apply this statement to ourself, not assume others around ourself are being judgemental towards us and if our perceptions mislead us into thinking we are not accepted, let's just notice that we are not accepting ourself and that we are simply showing then our inner disconfort.
Seolji is so gorgeous, holy jesus, I'm in love
Uum not really tho....
Whats her instagram ?
I felt the same lol shes an absolutely stunning lady
She’s not that cute 😃
Soulji is gonna get a good scolding from her parents after this blue eyed girl is gone. Her parents had to act like this because of the cameras pointed at them (most of our parents does this as they are not camera friendly). The dad is gonna blow up later.
This is not a movie where one westerner comes to your house to convince, then you 'talk' it out and things get better.
This doesn't happen with Asians. We have to lay our grounds, build up, layer it and gradually things will get adjusted. One talk doesn't change years of principles, mindset and traditions.
The thing the westerners doesn't understand is that it's different being an Asian. You have a long chain of ancestries and traditions and culture that you need to carry and protect along with your personal views.
Any stigma or rules takes time to get wiped off and so will the tattoo scene in Korea. But u cannot just push it right away and demand to be accepted because that will generate more hatred than acceptance.
Just take yourself on their shoes, imagine yourself believing on a set of principles all through your life, the dark history of your ancestors, the pain they suffered, your respect towards their soul, you bringing up your child with all these values..
And suddenly your child brings someone else from a different culture to witness her confessions of doing something you were always against and taught her better.
How would you feel? It takes time.
(The child has done nothing wrong inking her body.. I just wanted to say, being a rebellion is not always the answer. She could have done it without the blue eyed girl or atleast let her parents know about her beforehand. I was very uncomfortable too because her parents were uncomfortable ).
Yea maybe her parents are actually chill but I agree. I also see it as extremely disrespectful to bring a heavily tattooed person in front of Korean elders without complete and total consent. I was absolutely disgusted the entire time by how they portrayed Korea as stuck up and stingy as if there is not an extremely well known, recent, and dark history of tattoos there. Absolutely inexcusable and shameful.
@@samanthapeterson1444 I hear you and understand what you are saying. This happens to us also. Not all Asians have stuck with their traditions. I have realised this in a hard way.
When u r in a foreign country, your roots save you,
when the holidays come your traditions save you,
when your kid has been asked to do a project on your ancestors, your culture saves you..
It's nothing wrong with being modern or a westerner (we call the people with modern culture from the west of our continent as westerner.. it's not in bad term), but it feels good you know.... I love how the Indigenous people embraces their culture..
I just hope all the good things of the history are carried forward with time and not the racist ugly shits that some of our forefathers did or practiced. 💚
okay but she was asked to do it with her lmao grace didn't just butt in like let me pls film all this with u but go off. and not just asian countries have very set values and principles. ways they look at people and how they should be, this can be said about a lot of other countries. if you mean america when you refer to westerners then clarify because then i will agree. grace is not saying this one convo will change everything because old people are stubborn and tradition is hard to kill. i got it from the film that she understood that. i think what she was saying is that it's a start and change is possible. which it is, even if the progress is slower in korea. you don't make changes without taking steps.
yeh because like every tribe, the more close minded the more you resist to "new things", it's not asian related, western country did a lot of self work to stop the tribalistic thing for growth art & science.
Asian is not the only country not my ancestors but father hated tattoos I had them and had to hide them from him I was an adult women but still had to hide them for a peaceful life
Grace seems to be the best example of "don't judge a book by it's cover" she looks so extreme and maybe scary to some. but she's really so sweet and humble. i love that
This was one of the coolest docu-series I have ever seen!
I love alternative culture so much. It's so easy to bond with complete strangers, most people couldn't imagine taking someone someone they only just met along to their parents for emotional support
I love Grace but I think it’s hypocritical of her to criticize young girls wanting/getting cosmetic surgery while she’s all in for body modifications like tattoos, piercings, etc. While she got her first tattoo at 14. Idk it’s weird.
i think its more about the motive of the surgery instead of the outcome for her
She no different from all the other tattoo artists/ alternative scene teens...
But really. The caucacity.
lina gonzalez tattoos and body modifications celebrate people’s differences. Surgery is a way for Koreans to fit in better in a society who has a very narrow opinion on what is acceptable and what is not. It’s an underlying problem that spans across a number of very serious issues in Korea. Everyone needs good grades, a good college, a good job, a good heterosexual relationship and beautiful, successful children with no mental illnesses. There’s is one right way to live you life, and it has turned Korea into an extremely competitive society with very little room for finding your own path. There is a reason why they have the highest rating of suicide in the world.
She wasn't "criticize" young girls if re watch the vidéo
i want more vids like this she is a GREAT HOST
Bless the dad, I bet he thought she was gonna tell them she was a lesbian!
LOL I THOUGHT THE SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The slow mo of the dad was so cute lmfaooooo
yeah his smile was adorable x3
I had to stop and replay it because it was so adorbs! haha
agree
yes and his tatoo is also so cute x3
ikrrr i was like aw
she said that the girls procedure are pretty extreme. LOL says the girl with full bod tattoo and eyes color changed
Exactly. It was like she lost all credibility for being able to critical thinking at that point. She doesn’t seem very old but risked her vision by a self-admitted rarely done procedure but is worried about the health of girls having procedures done (at probably the same age) by medical professionals.
It's the difference in reasoning though. Yes she has had extreme procedures, but she isn't a teenage girl, and she did it as an appreciation for art and using her body as a canvas. These young girls are changing the way they are out of INSECURITY and the need to "look prettier" which is much more toxic, so I can see why she thinks it's an "extreme" thing to do, because society says so.
@@dtchouros girls in korean get it done at like 16 or 15. She probably did it after being an adult
She would probably consider her own procedure pretty extreme. She's showing that she's very much aware of it's danger and how extreme it is
She literally said it was extreme because they were young. You don’t have the full ability to look around corners until you’re around 23. Yeah she has ink in her eyes, but she was able to fully comprehend the chance of blindness because she was an adult.
Man I can’t get over how she talks down to everyone 🤦♂️
"Koreans typically have a 10-18 step beauty routien"
HUUHH I DONT EVEN HAVE ENOUGH MOTIVATION IN THE MORNINGS TO CHANGE MY CLOTHES WHAT
Jade Marie depression, mate.
people who get tattoos get them because that’s what they want to look like. For them having tattoos is their ideal self. Their ideal self is achieved through tattoos. For people who get plastic surgery, their ideal self will be achieved through plastic surgery. So how is it any different? Honestly I felt grace was biased when she talked about plastic surgery cause in both cases both women are modifying their body to do what they love, because they have the right to do so since it’s their body. There are definitely girls in Korea who are being pressured but that doesn’t mean the majority of those getting plastic surgery are pressured. It’s double standard to not want to be judged for her tattoos and body mods and then go and judge others because their surgery is towards a different goal
Pjmjjk P in Korea plastic surgery is to fit in and all have similar “socially ideal” features. I think she was just trying to understand why
My thoughts exactly!
So what surgery did you get?
Exactly
I totally agree
The camera work is just awesome !
Weird how plastic surgery is commonplace, yet tattoos are a big taboo. To me seems much less extreme putting ink on your skin than changing your appearance. I guess it's just a difference in cultures. ALSO PLEASE, anyone tell me where she got that white coat??? It's gorgeous.
Exactly what I was thinking. It's normal to permanently augment your features but not your skin? Crazy.
I think she said it was Burberry?
And now imagine being Korean and going to America (or any other western country) and people judge you for doing cosmetic surgery but accept tattoos :D
So true! Most people just can't accept what they think is "unusual" to their perceptions., they don't want to understand it either so they just judge them.,
Am korean. 1/3 of girls I saw in college had at some form of cosmetic surgery. I once suggested the idea of getting a tattoo to my parents and it was like telling them I was interested in making porn lol
This is one of the best vlogs I've seen so far, beautiful content, had a blast watching it
I'm sorry to say, but I think the statements are a bit one-sided, kinda poorly researched and definitely not complex enough. These problems are not just based on the (100 times mentioned) K-Pop. It is about complex political and cultural differences. European ideas cannot be easily transferred into different countries and social systems. It was hard for me to watch and I feel there is a lack of respect in a way. When we want to express our individualism in our beauty extremes, please allow a country to grow and develop in their way. It takes a long time to understand a society.
Thanks for this comment you said it all so perfectly
Exactly. Her argument is over simplified. This is what happens when anyone wants to play journalist because they have a RUclips channel and dont have proper training to truly understand these things
I do get your point. But I think she was trying to explore that very question and not assume she knows everything. If she was Korean would you have felt the same way? I do understand why plastic surgery is very popular and I actually understand why so many people get it done. But at the same time, I do wish there was less pressure (whether thats due to K-pop, politics, culture etc) I still wish there was less pressure.. and not just in Korea.. everywhere in the world. The pressure to look good on the outside, I think especially for woman in most cultures, but seemingly more and more pressure for men too, has to be talked about. I personally am glad that there are people who are brave enough to speak out and say that this kind of pressure on young people is too much. Whats on the inside is so much more important.. just think one day you will be old, wrinkly and most likely you won't look 'good', and at that point people who are with partners and have friends who care more about the inside then the outside are the people that have a happy life later on. If you focus too much on the outside, at old age you will be depressed and think of yourself as somehow worse off then when you were younger, which is sad because old people have the longest time to really develop a beautiful mind through life experience. Not to mention what a waste of money. All the money spent on plastic surgery could have been used to have a beautiful experience.. like an amazing once in a lifetime holiday etc.
i think you're right in that you have to look closely at culture and not come from a western-centric sort of view, however what i believe she was trying to explain was that the problems are not based in kpop promoting a certain type of mainstream beauty, but that tattoos and alternative beauty in general are something that will only be accepted as people are brave enough to stand up and say that it's okay and should not be so criticized. by showing seoulji and her parents, i think she really exposed the fact that it isn't kpop that's shaping mainstream beauty culture or keeping tattoos taboo, but that its fear of being persecuted and estranged from society because not enough people across generations are talking about it. but with open conversation, we can bridge a generational and ideological gap that hold the misunderstandings and stigma, and create a mutual respect and acceptance for each other's choice of expression. this was also very evident in the last story with the girl and her dad who mentioned having had wanted a tattoo in his youth but finding himself in a community silent about their opinions on it and feeling like he would have no support and thus stifled his expression. this journalist spent only a short segment on an interview with the kpop star and even then they still talked more about public reception and his family's reception rather than he is challenging the trends kpop has 'created' because i dont think she was arguing that.
SOEVE best response to this video
When you want many tattoos but you are poor af
Hahahaha
I swear T.T
same lol
***** Why is that stupid?
***** because some people unlike you care about their looks
Thank you Grace. I always love your content and this is just incredible what S Korea's underground generation is doing for the tattoo culture.
We need more Grace Neutral please and thank you...
Can we just appreciate how beautifully this is shot for a minute?
Many Kpop Idols have tattoos tho ;) Dont blame KPOP for everything. We r all just people. Some going extreme to look better, some extend their look, some keep it. so what, we are all free human beings.
i want to know where to get that white jacket she wears
the big puffy one?
i can't find it
at your local goodwill
She means the one at 0:03, not the burberry one. Or are both of them burberry?
I thought it was by UNIF
"Society hasn't pressured or encouraged me." Sure Jen...
yh thats pure delusion
It’s like you know all revolves around society because if it weren’t you wouldn’t get anything done
"But why surgery so young"
"Most wait until after university "
"But TEENAGERS "
Chill gracey.
"I feel like I'm 14 again, and I'm revealing my first tattoo"
why did they go to a spa after they got their make up done?
I'm in love with her accent o.o
Same!!
her accent is in love with you o.o
whats her accent?
+hey thats pretty good British?
+hey thats pretty good she said that she was from London so i guess its british :)
Beauty stardards in korea have nothing to do with kpop tbh, the biggest issue is how important looks are to get a job, being an idol is also a job and they have to meet korean beauty standards as well, in fact plastic surgery is not really THAT common in idols but entertainment agencies only debut really good looking people and there's tons of predebut pics from every idol that show they've always looked good, there's even a visual role in every group and it's given to the member who meets this beauty standard the most, they don't really get as much surgery as western artists for sure tbh but yeah korea's beauty industry is huge but it's not about kpop or kdramas
Thats a joke right
I went to Korea about two years ago and I have tattoos, 2 of my biggest ones being on my arm. I heard so many things about tattoos in Korea and prepared lots of long-sleeve clothes. I was staying in Hongdae for most of my time there and I was surprisingly shocked to see quite a few Koreans with tattoos and flaunting them. Some even had full sleeves. I loved it. And what is amazing is that this generation has to suffer a bit with having tattoos and getting ridiculed. But just think, the next generation won't have to worry about it as much. The views on tattoos has already begun to change over there and once the older generation is gone (that sounds horrible, i know, sorry) it won't be looked down upon as much.
+Libby Mottu Tattooing is arguably "peaking" within this generation, or maybe by the next, to the extent that it's possible that many of our current society's (hypothetical) grandchildren will rebel against the practice and prefer to think of tattoos as that weird, gross thing "old people" used to do when they were young.
I think it's so lovely how she took your hand, when you guys walked through the spa ❤ you must have felt out of place and it must have taken a lot of courage for her as well. But she didn't want you to feel too alone 🙈
Her parents are angels!
They are so understanding and supportive of her daughter.
I love how well her mother was able to explain that her concerns did not revolve around her daughter suddenly becoming a criminal, but rather around the negativity that is connected to something her daughter likes and whether she would be safe looking what she looks like.
Very beautiful to see.
That gangster guy looks so cool, really classy
I actually don’t find her hypocritical at all. she’s advocating for personal standards of beauty and self love rather than society’s beauty standards. she’s like a manifestation of everything traditional society looks down in yet she’s so beautiful and angelic. as for the eye tattoos being more dangerous than plastic surgeries, it was a choice that she made by her own standards which is really important. i don’t think there’s anything wrong with surgery or tattoos but she really gives a new perspective on the motivations behind beauty choices.
abi noyes a choice influenced by a desire to make a different choice isn’t a genuine free one ☝🏻 anymore.
@@ilonaarsenivna6156 lol this video got me feeling all types of way. This is a form of colonization. Telling these asians you're primitive for thinking tattoos are bad but how dare you get plastic surgery to look good 🤔🤔🤨. Smh
@@baybeetacoo8734 do you know what colonisation is
@@dancenasticsog as a person whose ancestors were colonized and lives through neo colonization herself, I have a pretty good idea what it is
@@baybeetacoo8734 lol ok. Why do people of color obsess over White people so damned much while we don't think of you at all? RENT FREE in your minds. Obsess over us more. "Neo-colonization" my ass. PLEASE tell me where Grace said that she thinks plastic surgery is extreme. She said that she doesn't think these people should undergo extreme changes because of pre-defined beauty standards. So, in order to spell it out for a low-IQ moron like yourself, she is saying that being forced to follow objective, standardized beauty is extreme and bad, not plastic surgery.
This was a really eye opening journey into Koren culture, thanks for sharing it.
17:31 - 17:38 It's sad that she have to hide those beautiful tattoos
Well she can't be at the pool 24/7, and oh no, the swim bra hides it too!
Personally I think, tattoo and body modification is just the same with wearing makeup, clothes or even plastic surgery. We all want to be more, more special, more beautiful, more unique and so on. All I can think is great video but stop comparing your tattoo with korean make up or plastic surgery too much, because you guys basicly doing a similar thing which is modifying your natural appearance.
so true rly -.- she seems all so judging and arrogant about her extremly original style comparing herself and looking down on mainstream styles
Hanun Soraya I don't really think that she means that tattoos are better than surgery what she means is that koreans are mainly having surgery because of the pressure society is putting on them while she had tattoos because she enjoyed doing them no one actually pressures you to have tattoos
Can we talk about how gentle and loving almost instantly Grace is with her new Korean girlfriends. So affectionate and sweet. Its really darling to watch :)
I was waiting for her to meet a gang member and there it was my second grade school councillor
Not gonna lie, I was shocked to hear a "western" accent on Jay Park (I have never heard of him before).
It's because he's American.
Kanye East really??? I just assumed (probably being ignorant), that because he's a k-pop star that he was from south korea.
ITS OK
He is American
Yeah he is from Seattle.
"idk how i feel about teenagers having cosmetic surgery" Says the girl with entire body tattooed, blue eyes, and scarification on her forehead.
OMGITSGB I think the only difference is that she was an adult when she chose to get these things done.. a lot of teenagers will go with what’s trending and end up making these permanent decisions without thinking about the consequences. I think it was less judge mental and more of an awareness to not get wrapped up in making your body what others want it to be. At least that’s how I heard it
Lmao nvm she said she was 14 😂😂
Wish & pressure are different things
The difference is that she did it for herself while these girls are getting pressured by society and even families to get surgeries so they "fit in"
The point is that the teenagers are supposedly being pressured to conform to beauty standards. Grace's situation is different because she chose to undergo those changes. Whether it was when she was also a teen or an adult, there was clearly no societal pressure for the changes she chose.
This series was entertaining, but more so it was very enlightening. Very good job!
A closed minded person interviewing someone with different culture and idea while strongly imposing her not mainstream idea of beauty.
Completely agreed
shes imposing HER idea of beauty? im sorry, and how exactly? please explain me
white person astounded other cultures exist
Mike Perkins Fuck off
Thelma .exe.
She’s straight up shaming South Korea for being aggressively against tattoos despite their being a damn good reason and literally no way she wouldn’t know. Before Koreans were forced into (mainly sex) slavery they were forcibly and painfully tattooed. These are people that are still alive today. Korea has only just begun to heal for a horrible injustice. He refusal to mention that as well as continually gawking at how offended they are is forcing her ideal where they absolutely do not belong.
"Are you in a gang?" well....we like to call it an "organization..".
omg her parents are so sweet. they remind me so much of when I came out as Trans to mine.
kids these days man
Townsend Thomas You're a bummer.
I really like how you have such confidence to be your authentic self. Love your beautiful eyes and Tats.!
the tattoo on the guy's chest at minute 16:41 it's in spanish it means "the past has been stepped"
Yes, it's actually an Spanish saying which tries to convey that we shouldn't worry too much about what has already happened or been done to us and focus on the present instead.
im still looking for that WHITE PUFFER JACKET
Rosa Sutter I came here hoping someone would point it out but 😩
Same, same
Dallas Slater balenciaga
@@aimeejlow8831 what's the id?
You can buy it in Uniqlo they have a collection of them in there stores!
24:21 Such a beautiful moment to share with a person you met the night before! Love the authenticity of emotions they shared and the safe space she created❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The filming in this documentary just blew my mind. It's beyond beautiful.
Grace is someone who can see the pretty side of people doesn't matter how different the person is. That's amazing.
Love from Brazil. ♡~
Mandy D.
That's what I love about her.
The girl who’s interviewing people is so freaking sweet and kind. Truly loved watching this because of her 🥰
The style and cinemtography of all i-D videos is amazing! keep up with the good quality :) :)
😍😍😍 The girl who is getting her first tattoo. I love her parents, and the dad is quite adorable about getting his done. ♥️♥️♥️
”We meet a old man with some strong opinions. ”
Starts sharing their history and cultural beliefs.
Yes but a lot of western parents don't like tattoos ether they see it as something bad too my father did not like tattoos and I had to hide them for my mother's sake as he could get violent to her so I couldn't say for her sake
14:39 “I’m just being honest, she has a pretty face and a nice body, but because of the tattoos she’s ruined”
I did a extensive research finale paper for one of my university classes and I’ve learned in the process that tattoo is not only frowned upon in other countries but in upper classes. I researched why and I found that tattoos in most countries have a horrendous past with them. For example a lot of Asian countries have negative opinions on them because when Japans invasions where happening they branded women with tattoos. There’s quite a lot of pain the older generation holds in Korea not only because of the tattoos but because Japan refuses to take responsibility for some of the things they did. In other countries you look unprofessional. I spoke to some higher class people that have said if you look into it not many high profile CEO’s or higher ups have tattoos. There is still lingering stigma around tattoos. What these younger generations are doing is taking back their nations identity by getting inked. Almost if they are not allowing it to become deeply imbedded in negativity. I loved this documentary but I think a lot more research had to be done to see why older generations feel the way they do
Could I read your paper? that is so interesting and I didn't know that history although I'm Korean!
Okay. I absolutely ADORE grace neutral and am in love with learning about the way other cultures express and value different modalities of beauty. but - when she is in the hot tub and discussing plastic surgery withthe one girl does she not realize that she's covered in plastic surgery and surgical procedures that alter her look to fit into what she seems"more herself" or prettier or closer to what she needs. how is itNy different? it makes her uncomfortable but she is covered in the north American alternative version of plastic surgery
Jordan Melnychuk I was about to write the same thing!!! what a double standard !
I find this so interesting though because it's like the opposite ends of the spectrum. Where as in Korea they surgically alter their appearance to conform to social norms, in the west people do the same with the intention to break away from society's norm. I find both equally disturbing since they both indicate a certain amount of discomfort in one's own skin.
I mean, not necessarily. There are definitely people who get tattoos to cope with personal insecurities, but that's not everyone. Some people just view their bodies as a canvas that they can have fun with! :)
Tattoos and piercings are not plastic surgery... wtf. They don't require major surgery or anything. That is just silly. You aren't completely changing your body... you're just adding to it.
She says in that same scene that it primarily bothers her because of how young the girls feeling pressured into having plastic surgery are. That’s not a double standard but rather a concern about very young people’s self-image.
This was a fantastic video. When you met the girls parents it brought up so much. Even in Canada you still deal with some discrimination, and I remember how bad it was 25 years ago when I started covering myself and altering myself away from conventional beauty. Thanks for this video.