Hacking into the Indian education system | Debarghya Das | TEDxBangalore
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. Debarghya Das wanted to help a few friends get their examination results before anyone else but he ended up writing a script that exposed stark anomalies in the grading policies of the Indian education system. He shares his insights from the hack and outlines options to leverage technology for changing education in India.
Debarghya Das is an aspiring computer scientist. Last year, he published a blog post about how he wrote a script that eventually exposed stark anomalies in the grading policies of the Indian education system. Having previously worked at Coursera and Google, he is graduating with a Bachelors and Masters degree in Computer Science from Cornell University. Debarghya is extremely passionate both about using technology for large scale societal benefit as well as solving difficult core Computer Science problems. He does research in Artificial Intelligence at Cornell's Robot Learning Lab, where he worked on helping robots like Baxter and PR2 efficiently navigate themselves in human environments. In addition, Debarghya's research at the Cornell Linguistics Lab led to the creation of the world's first accurate tongue controlled game.
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For people saying he has a fake accent, he spent his first 10 years in US.
Hope His Bongaali accent also would have changed . Anyways it is a fake accent to me .
Rajiv not "Bongaali", it is "Bengali" !
Hopalucard 997 , brother in Bengal A is for orange and b is for vegetables and many times e is also for orange . So it's gaali finally
=_= okay
those people who are criticising his english accent, i wanna ask those person can u use hindi in any interview
Dude the irony is i am studying maths right now while watching this video for my class 10th and the saddening part is i have no choice
Bro I have the same case but we have no option I have a pressure to score 90+
@@dhruvgupta8866 If you have any connections in a developed nation, move there for education.
When I look back in life and see what I achieved all I can think of is exams.... exams....exams....
"Discover your passion,go online & really learn something for the sake of learning. Stop complaining about the system. Challenge education" These are some strong words which I always share with friends,juniors and every other person I meet. I'm really glad that someone spoke them out.
sahi bola
suprakash mukherjee Try challenging when you're preparing for IIT JEE and wants to learn C++ from core of your heart.
+namit saxena everyone has 24 hours a day, it is upto you what you wish to use that for.
suprakash mukherjee skmk
suprakash mukherjee true
It's Sad,this video was uploaded 6 years ago and nothing is changed ...It's exact same.
PS- I am 10th Standard student
yeah i support u
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I too support and really am in 10th and could know nothing tussled a pin
Trigonometry is waste of life
This guy created the best resume template, went to Cornell, worked at Google, and Facebook, and works for Glean as a founding engineer (one of the best startups as of today) now. This guy rocked at life as a Software engineer man truly amazing.
Hey, I am a student (school, Xth grade, just promoted), and what I find wrong is spreading fear among the students. You know how teachers scold us if we are not good at some subject (math or science...) "you won't be able to get into a good college, you won't get a proper job, won't get a good salary, you will not be able to succeed in life"...etc and how our parents scold us when you get low marks (i get scolded EVERY year), basically they are trying to make us study well by adding the element of fear, but that is bad, you can't enjoy learning the subject like that... and well however hard you try, you can never change the Indian education system where a mark's value is considered to be more than a student's mind, his ideas, instead what can be done is instead of scaring us, try to motivate us, tell us benefits of becoming an engineer, tell us the benefits of becoming a doctor, tell us how good our life can be if we get into some good college like IIT, instead of scaring us like how bad will your life be if you don't get into IIT. And most importantly, make us ENJOY studying. Try to make studying fun, bring some creativity in the teaching system, teach us using videos, we are tired of books, bring something that we can enjoy and learn at the same time.
Every day
My national English teacher even told me to play safe during exam !
I Agree. Making a student afraid seems to be equivalent of shooting oneself in the foot. The results will deteriorate further and dangerous stuff like depression, low self esteem can happen.
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When I was in calss 10 I didn't have a inch ideas and belief you have now. I do have them at my 21 age but its little late Cuz I have limited options now
If you are an Indian (specially belongs to a middle class family ) the best time of your life is the childhood
And the time when you turns 16 or 17 it's the end of your happiness 🙂
Can't agree more..yaar!😭
he was only person who came up with the solution of online education like coursera, udacity and edX, I was already learning from coursera and it really helps
A wonderful speech describing the Indian system and it's flaws. It was also a, pardon my words, an endorsement for online education planting the thought that anyone can learn from anywhere.
However, pragmatic methods and ways which we could apply to rise above our educational system were not outlayed.
Aside from this, an amazing talk. Hats off.
Public shaming , numbering , comparison is why India is still developing
13:08 goosebumps
One of the best Ted talks I assure, really learnt a lot from a short vid which no school will ever teach. I love it
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Receiving standardized marks in boards, then taking money for reviews(1000s of Rs), and then not even getting an acknowledgement form the board, let alone increasing a single mark. Happens only in India!
I hate this education system.......I don't want any kids.............Let's be safe and not have kids suffer like us
what we all discuss is questions but no one discusses solutions
Gaurish Katlana thats bcos nobody knows the solution.
these probs require everyone to take efforts
It requires years of years research from teachers, students, physiologist, philosopher and many more to come up with solution plan that can be implemented but the truth is that its so much hard question that no one wants to spend time on solving
What an amazing video.It made me laugh and cry at the same time!Haha did he say Narasimhan at the end?Thats my name u knw ;)
Does anyone know the intro song? Till 1st 10 seconds? It's amazing!
For those who think it's an ad for coursera - He mentioned and praised edX and Udacity and MOOCs in general.
And,for those who think it's an ad for onlne education - How can there be an ad for a genralized thing.That's like saying Bill Gates giving an ad for operating systems.
Awesome
He is a young gun and I like his gusto. We need thousands more the likes of him to change this emotionally brittle and highly subjective education sytem that focuses more on getting good grades in exams because one exam can make or break your career.
I am a student in 11 class in India I scored 10 cgpa in board class 10 I thought I was very intelligent but my scores went down in 11th I opted for science and my passion in computer science. after watching this video I got more strength to follow my passion
I am glad that I watched this video
such greatness
That was a really good one.
You are the MAN! Bravo dude!
Very much true
mahn u r awesome..great speech!!
It’s an interesting video
VERY VERY GOOD.
Thts be great.....
Man u nailed it.. Damn right.
All those who failed in exams or failed in life ... Will find their voices has been raised by someone???
I also found it interesting..... But lemme tell u onething that everyone of us faced but didn't notice is that it's not the education system but the management system that gives us underpaid teachers..... We all want best education in our lives but we don't want to pay our teachers what they deserve.....we pay it to managements and they exploit it in the best possible way. Even u go for the best online classes or the best institutes u will find how they pay their teachers less.
We expect the best out of the teachers..... But forget that it requires lot of hard work to do the boring work of teaching. We think that by merely celebrating teachers day and giving a pen will square his time and effort than we are sadly mistaken. Teachers of new India have everything in their hands.... It's the youth of India that will have to recognise at a young age who is the right and hardcore teacher...... By merely going to a well structured organisation with nice infrastructure and getting involved in lot of activities doesnot mean that u learned everything .......i know it will write a book if said..... Sorry if hurt anyone feelings and yes I m not a teacher but has closely observed the profession. Teachers can do wonders given a chance. And yes selection system also matters.
Well said😍😍
this is how indian education system works. one cannot change the system in one day or an year. it takes centuries to bring change.
Akshat Jain The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do :3
It has to start somewhere, if we keep think change is gonna happen but not right now, it's never going to happen
i Wish i were not born in india
Hey no man, it's good this country has many problems, we have to solve them all. Start with something and try to benefit others. We as indian people are gonna make this country great
but we human change everyday not in centuries
Amin da was also a gifted footballer, got to learn so much from him, miss you da
find it true a lot!!!!
I hated my school as my other fellow indians do because if not having effective teachers to break the concepts, and the worst part of this is that the schools don't even take the feedback from the students about what things can be done better it effectively to create better selves.
He is right!!!!!!!!
which is the best education system in the world?
Finland
Why is it Finland?
Do your research..you will know. Dont be like all the typical girls who always lean on others for support or to know something. Do some things atleast by yourself.However i will post links which supports my statement. www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-are-finlands-schools-successful-49859555/ , fillingmymap.com/2015/04/15/11-ways-finlands-education-system-shows-us-that-less-is-more/ , www.businessinsider.in/Finland-has-one-of-the-best-education-systems-in-the-world-here-are-4-things-it-does-better-than-the-US/articleshow/55461906.cms
Chandra Shekhar thanks for the reply
Self education is the best type of education . And if want to know the best kind of schooling system I believe it's subdury schooling system.
India should just make it hard to achieve teachers degree or upgrade thier course
I am in 10th what should i do in my future.......................
vishal pachpande do what u fell comfortable dont get forced by anyone
Its your life Live it
well i don't really know what to do.........when someone asks me what i like ......i don't have a answer..........My father is saying that i should go for engineering................
vishal pachpande I am not forcing you but I am saying that try something different 50% of Indian students do medical and 50% of the rest do engineering
depends on you what you like to do
if possible reply
thanks
my tution teacher is also saying that most of the jobs are available for engineering
But i would like to invent something new ...........i like to be a scientist .......I think i will get an opportunity in engineering field
stereotypes pls don't comment on his accent....
Just learned basic differentiation during the preboard exam times from Khan's academy and studied for the purpose of learning. Wanted to reach the level of quantum physics but sst syallabus was not complete. Got 83.5% as a whole, (made some silly mistakes or the teacher reduced marks for not stating obvious things or following answer format) and back at home I became a disappointment all of a sudden despite the hardwork.
The truth
That's right the education system today is killing our imagination I remember that when I was in 5-6 class I used to make make electronic things like a small submarine,working car, hydroelectricity and now I don't even know how to make things like those my imagination has just stopped and thrown out. Here sitting in front of the tab I get to learn more English than I do in schools. I have given the 10 exam but still don't know what to do In my life someone say engineering,someone doctor or lawyer
Be very careful of what you take ishaan because i'm 19 and i'm suffering in engineering and a college which sucks.........Whichever you feel is not boring and is WORTH getting results go for it.............I just don't want you to land up like me and stare at the sky and regret your choice...........It's very common to slack off and be lazy like me.......Just be careful......
and now i know why get lucky daft punk never really sounded that good :P :P
Looks like you are more proud of that accent than being from kolkota... Our education system is not perfect but still every Indian knows how to shape themselves ... Somewhere i read that "The Chinese grow because of their government.Indians ,Despite"
Santhosh S T looks like you are a dumb shit who didn't listen to what this guy had to say just because he was saying something that your dumb ass has been brought up to disregard as bull.
Santhosh S T i kinda pity you although, dont get me wrong here, i still have respect for you. This guy really explained the flaws in our system.
+Santhosh S T he studied in USA
+Santosh S T you are missing the point. Why should we need to fight the system? The government spend crores of our money on a system than we ourselves need to fight to get ahead in life. Ironic. It's not only a waste of public money but also talent who are failed because they are different. And stop the abuse BTW.
Butterfly effect!!!!!
People here fav alakh pandey over HC Verma and Walter sir.
Because we care about number only
Ikr a large group of students themselves glorify numbers
and seriously did anyone not get those marks?
nope
Lol people think that's fake accesnt ?? It not fake at all .. my friend who lived in London since born for 12 years has the same accent but we mostly talk in Hindi tho
there should lots of options & flexibility in education , we in India don't get much option we select what we are getting.....
instead of talking about salary package &spreading the bullshit about salary especially parents
...there should be talks of entrepreneurship... & the experience of students i.e learner should like a pioneer...
there are many topics which many people hate because of there past experience , but when learn about these topics on online platform from the best university or teacher in the pure & natural form , you realize that it is very beautiful in its natural & pure form .....
there is no doubt that universe is beautiful in its genuine state .....
but because of the rat race mindset of millions of people ,it just ruins it...
even if you in the race ...you are rat at last , may be the best rat .....
I think open source platform ,online platform. online contribution & community interaction learning on online platform is best ...
The Best education system was the Vedic system of Gurukul where the student would not only be given education but also trained in the essential life skills required......
But it was completely destroyed by the invaders....
O plz ! His accent isn’t Phoney! I speak like that !
After seeing lots of controversial videos and motivational about ''changing Indian education system or present condition" ..i can only say that nothing will change in India .......NO ONE CARE ABOUT STUDENTS...AND YEAH SURELY WE ARE BECOMING SLAVES DAY BY AND NO ONE WILL HELP OR REDUCE THE SYLLABUS .😥😖
THOSE WHO ARE IN 11 SCIENCE WILL UNDERSTOOD WHAT AM TRYING TO SAY...WE ARE REALLY HELPLESS ..I CAN ONLY SAY THAT INDIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM ESSPECIALLY THE SCHOOL EDUCATION IS LITTERALY WASTE OF 15 YEARS....
Don't be so sure the vigilantism is rising and with it people who has taken justice in their own hand
Debarghya Das
hey come to silver oaks i am sure you will change your opinion about Indian education
I don't get it, why compare the Board Exams in India with SAT? Why did the speaker not compare a test like 'JEE Mains' or 'JEE Advanced' or 'AIPMT' to SAT? Why not compare the final exams the guys in U.S. write in grade 12 to the Board exams in India? Makes no sense, this comparison.
Anshik Thareja it does make sense if you think about it, mate. It does.
comparing an exam which has MCQs and essays to an exam which is totally subjective makes sense? One is partially machine graded and the other is graded by random teachers. How does THAT make sense?
It is well known that US colleges base their admissions on things other than SAT scores - for example, race, extra-curricular activities etc. So there your fate is not decided by a disgruntled examiner but by a committee that has maybe a few minutes to evaluate your application. Problems exist everywhere - if this guy wasn;t in Cornell but in Eastern Dakota State University he wouldn't be giving this talk!
Look at the good side...
Indian students don't need to worry about girlfriends...coz we never had on😂😂
If he is lucky enough to have a gf
...
Is
Wkwk
Just had one question, If our education system is so awesome, then why do we tend to go do MS or MBA from a foreign university and not do M.Tech(except IISC) or MBA(except IIM A,B,C) from India.
While going through all the comment, just got disgusted by the languages used by "Supposed to be learned people and working for Top Notch IT Firms".
Professionals argue in dignified manner.
+Arindam Das Because going to usa is an easy task rather than getting a seat in iit's or iisc
+Arindam Das You're sadly mistaken! Our education System is not 'so awesome'. Where did you get that from? If it was 'so awesome', we would be ranked a lot higher.
+Arindam Das Money
+TheHarshShow yeah. exactly
nice ad for coursera
He mentioned and praised edX and Udacity and MOOCs in general.
Shut!
How can someone fake an accent like um people's voices are different and also various things factor in on a person's accent and tones alr 😭
neither the education system nor the students fails in the exam its the parents who are making them failed in their life if u want to change tis u have to change the mentality of every parents in india...becoz in 2005 to 2012 it was engineers time and nw it became accountant time and later i dont know....just act soon asap
Kolkata where Mother Teresa lived, by the way he don't have an indian accent he heave American dialect !
No wonder why this one has less views
U mean take***exams?
Abe khali Badi Badi baat kr rae ho SB ... education system badloge kB bee
Hey... Checking of papers are done at a certain centre of examanirers , not at home with your moody spouse.
What is he trying to say?
If the Indian education system was to bad, why are most of the tech's and business giants hire Indians?
sunil patel those people are the very few ones who are really intrested in studies.
And even sundar pichai has criticized this system.
1.2 billion people 10 20 ceo with us degree
Cheap labour my dude
Deedy find a good loop hole in Indian education system. The education system never gonna be change .So, We must tell the upcoming generation about these opportunity provided by Coursera , FedEx, Udacity . Most of the student heard about these after 10+2 class .
grow up
Buddy good speech however please improve your oratory skills.
Why does he talk about board exams instead of entrance exams
When you perform the audience should respond... but you laughing yourself in many places when audience silence... Learn and Grow Up man.
Karthikeyan Raju That does not mean what he says itsn't true.
mrrattrap1488 I never said that what he says is not true.... he could say his truth through books, or papers, or magazines... but when he is in stage he should know how a stage presentation should be...
It not essential every presentation should be serious. Even the audience laughed with him
mrrattrap1488 watch the video once again... if the audience laughed with him why i am saying that?
an add for Online education... don't know if it works
Somehow i disagree with his views....it looked like archastrad talk for a digital content company.
A 16 year old worried about his girlfriend but not about what he wants to become then that's his problem,people complain their own failures on system, and come on indian exams are very competitive and only with knowledge they crack it. That is why indians are successful in the rest of the world. Yes displaying results in open is worst, i agree.
***** clearly u must be a failure ....failed any entrance test and u r now treated like a trash ......vent u r anger somewhere else low life
***** I asked u to run your mouth somewhere else.......i can see u r frustrated & i have seen worthless fucks like u who haven't achieved anything in life and finds happiness in videos which show them as victims.....Go get a life
***** I dont want to waste my time on a filth like u, stooping to u r level is an insult, no problem if u r a looser, some people are just born for being a failure...GTFO
Relax guys, @anurag's coaching teacher has given him a buttload of bullshit and he believes his JEE marks determine his future. Not his fault.. He is just another rat.
deepanshu gupta funny that same bullshit has landed me into a top MNC with a very good package.....Blaming suicide on indian education system is worst thing to do......It's not u r fault every failure finds an excuse.....
online education system , really ? that on a ted talk ? guess ideas worth spreading are not always worthy to everyone.
#justPuttingMyOpinionThere
your accent man! it's irritating
I liked it a lot though
I wanna speak like him too
0w0
@@nihaal7750 unconscious peer pressure made it feel cool
@@user-qc7vf7pb3c its been a year now and yea, i dont find it cool anymore
the guy is annoying
not an eloquent speaker ! this had me bored in the first 15 seconds.
There is a lot of bull-shiting in this. First of all it is not really luck, students can do well if they study, but the teaching methods and the teachers need to be improved. Yes, he can get those online courses offered by the top schools in the world, and even I do attend those online lectures to learn new things, BUT a big BUT that most educated people don't understand because they are educated is THIS: To understand those online materials that he is talking about and to learn richer course materials online, you must first learn English, and Basic Math and what not, - right after birth you just cannot go to the internet and learn those materials and become Einstein or Mozert. You need teachers, class rooms. You definitely need better teachers at early school years fir that. How to motivate teachers to teach well? You need to teach the teachers to teach well. Creativity is important and should be introduced, and for that you need even more and better quality teachers so that they can spend more time teaching and guiding students to be creative. Teachers need to be accountable. And many more. I am still researching on the topic. What are your views? Or what everyone else think can be done. Internet can be used to train teachers to train students. Not directly train students bypassing the teachers.
I agree.
Here's a real example of the Indian education system:
I studied in a VTU engineering college. Any subject of any branch has 160 marks worth of syllabus. Your semester exam is out of 125 marks (78% of the syllabus). To pass you need a minimum of 50 marks (40% of the syllabus) which most students aim for especially in the really hard subjects. To obtain that minimum 50 marks, you need a minimum 15 internal average plus score a minimum of 35 in the external sem exam. Getting 15/25 internal marks is easy. You can easily cheat or sweet talk your professors. In many colleges they give it to you regardless. And If you look at old question papers, you can predict 5-6 questions that will guarantee you 35/100 marks in the external exam. Therefore, 15/25 + 35/100 = 50/125 Pass !
So an ordinary engineer from VTU scores 35 marks out of 160 marks syllabus (roughly 22% of the syllabus). But he doesn't even know 22% because he scores 35 marks by just memorizing 5 or 6 questions and answers that he predicted, without learning a single thing about the subject.
And to add to this ridiculous system, VTU has bullshit non-engineering subjects like :
1. Constitution of India and professional ethics
2. Environment studies
3. Entrepreneurship and management
At the end of 4 years you know nothing (not even the 22% you think you know) and you're not really an engineer. If anything you're probably just pretty good at spotting patterns.
So, why have a 160 marks syllabus, when you're exam is only 78% of the syllabus and to pass you barely need 22% of the syllabus?
u might wanna watch it with free mind. Again.
Mayank Dixit Why do you think that I did not watch it with free mind the first time I watched. Of course, you have rights to your own judgement and so do I. I still maintain what I have said. You might do research on Education and why India's education is failing. I do research in this area and my assessment is based on my research. Good luck.
Lakshmi Raut sadly, not only the education system is fucked up, all the govt departments, since independence have performed poorly.. they didnt care. and thats y there is no data to analyize the same.
indian education system is in itself a hole!!
Smells like a lot of pretentious bull. We have great teachers in India and I have personally been inspired by many in my learning years. Every system has problems. For instance, in the US "you" have to write an essay which most people get done by paying someone else. Kids as young as 13 sleep 4 hours in the night. No revolutionary change is required, maybe some evolutionary changes. You are totally wrong when you say that your marks in 12th determines your fate, there are hundreds of colleges and you can do well in life even if you do well from a not-so-good college. "I HACKED INTO THE SYSTEM" pretentious nonsense, sounds like a boastful teenager trying to show off...
the ultimate cliche..haha what a reply and agreed with the ultimate cliche
Anupam Mukherjee he's telling the truth
got lucky.
You are probably a lot order than both the guy speaking and me. I know at an age like yours it might seem like 'Let it be, has worked for so long'. But has the education system produced any person who changed the country let alone the world? Almost all such persons in India did what they did inspite of the system not because of it.
Fake accent aside, his stream of consciousness delivery is really terrible. What's sad is that he feels like he has uncovered something really great when this has been known all along. Be happy that you are in Cornell because you obviously had the money to go there. And this is clearly an ad for Coursera and other MOOCs
he studied in usa for a long time, how is it fake, even if he is faking it, de doing a great job
He got a full scholarship. He is a Maths Olympiad topper dude (among the top 50 in INMO) and many other stuff. Not everything is about money. These Universities give scholarships to the most talented (by which I mean among the most talented people in the world). I have loads of such friends in MIT and other Ivy league colleges studying for free. For eg- Debaditya Pramanik. He got loads of olympiad gold medals representing India. Gave IITJEE without even preparing after returning from Russia and got AIR 37 in 2017 in which his Chemistry and Maths marks were the highest in India. In Physics, where he has secured the most number of Gold medals respresenting India (literally God level, he has won in Chemisty, Maths and Science too but his Physics was at an altogether different lever) , he faltered a little due to discrepencies in the questions. He received hefty scholarship in MIT and went there. I have many closer friends who are even more talented than him. It's all about talent.
No discoveries he talked about were explained conclusively. Just loose education-system bashing, with faults which have nothing to do with our education system in the first place, but mixed with enough of pop culture references to befuddle the audience.
Everything he found out is here :
deedy.quora.com/Hacking-into-the-Indian-Education-System