The A2 Test: Did We Pass?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Yamaha R3 v KTM 390 Duke review is on its way, but here's our attempt at passing the Mod1 test on these A2 stallions. A massive thanks to Steve and ART for allowing us to hijack the test centre. Check them out for all sorts of training - www.artmotorcyc...
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What I do find stupid is, after doing both my A2 and full licence, the test is exactly the same. Why do I have to do the same test twice just for more power. You can't use that power in a car park going around cones, it's just the government find more ways to rip off bikers, whilst I only had one test in a car and could hop into any car I could afford to insure
Sam Grattan Yep the full licence test is retarded, you don't even ride bigger bikes than the A2 ones. They should put more emphasis on the road part...
RobBroderick44 but even then there's no difference. You can't go any quicker in the test, and the bike I rode had alot less pick up then my restricted MT07
This is incorrect, RobBroderick, for unrestricted A category you must ride bike more powerful than A2-compliant bike.
Well, you're right, but the reality is not good looking. It depends on the school you're taking your A license. A lot won't bother and will give you the same bike (MT-07 for example) you got for the A2 training/exam. I'm not even sure the bikes are full power when you pass the A test.
My point is, they should make an effort and lend bigger machines (like an fz-08 for example) so you can experience and harness those because, you will ultimately (for most ppl with A licence anyways) buy one.
It's being changed this year. if you've done the a2 licence to get an a licence you've got to ride like 7 hours with an instructor to show that your still safe on the roads
I originally did mine on my grom...i did an epic stoppie on the emergency stop and the examiner praised me and failed me haha
I want to see someone carry a grom to the other box in the walk your bike part :D
banaana1234 😂 never thought of that
You just said you did the test yet you have to imagine doing the manual handling?
I never thought about 'Carrying it'. As in picking it up and dropping it into the other box.(fyi I can pick it up, its not that heavy haha)
Mad man😂😂😂💀
What an honor, having Mark Hamil give you riding instructions!
The license rules in England are just shit.
Got to do a Mod 1 & mod 2 to pass your A2 in which you end up with a full license restricted, yet 2 years later you still have to do mod 1 & mod 2 AGAIN to get any bike you want.
With car licenses you can just jump straight into any car you want..providing you can afford insurance.
2 years after passing A2, your license should be auto derestricted
Bro, in Bulgaria , you have to take a theory exam and a 2 stage practical exam for A2 licence. After 2 years you have to do the same in order for you to get your A licence. But if you have a B licence already (before starting A2) you can skip the theory exams on all A categories.
which was the original a2
Blame the EU, the test is the same across europe
I agree. I think people under 25 should be restricted to smaller engined cars.
I passed my das last year, but i like to watch these videos anyway. I think i remember it being said that licenses used to be like that. Could be wrong but i remember hearing that and wondering why they got rid of it
Please make Al ride with an L plate at his next track day..
I dread the thought of having to do this again for the A category....
Eastern Menace Are you allowed to drive am r6 with a2 or do you need a
@@tesla7767 You need an A license. A2 is up anything up to 47bhp or 94bhp restricted to 47bhp. The R6 is something like 126bhp, way over the A2 limit.
@@masterlukestynes not necessarily, there are ways around it, i know of more than one person that have done it, you can get insured easily its more police and things and you can argue that however old the bike is that it lost say 20hp, never failed yet
@Bernd DasBrot I had no idea mate but I had a quick Google couldnt find out much but its doesnt sound like they go by the European laws no, by the looks of it you can do what you want if you have money to bribe police
@Bernd DasBrot why do you ask?
You two literally haven't made a bad video. Honestly your content just keeps getting better and better.
Brilliant video and the addition of the camera man really gives it a professional look. You guys are nailing it lately, you have a double Chops thumbs up :-)
Lamb Chop Rides , which bike will win in a race ?
Have to admit, I'm one of the weirdos that actually really enjoyed my training and tests, I love being outside my comfort zone! I did mine a few years ago at age 39 (last time I'd ridden anything was 20 years before!). Passed it & jumped on a 1000cc second-hander the very next day, and my insurance was under £150.
Being an old git has few perks, but that's one of them.
I took my test at age 57.Never driven any kind of vehicle on the road up till then.Passed first time and got a clean sheet!I went out and bought a brand new Street Triple...still have that wonderful bike now with 46000 miles on the clock .A few weeks after buying the Street I saw an Aprilia Tuono 1000R which I just had to have .I put 52000 miles on that Italian beauty ,then it was stolen.I replaced it with a 2006 Speed Triple which I love.Now approaching 120,000 miles of biking at age 68.Still never driven a car!
The quality of your guys' content the last months has skyrocketed. From audio to camera work, top notch!!
It can only be a matter of time before you two maniacs get a TV show.
a top gear for bikes style
Boe Conwy who'd be Captain Slow?
Please no.... That's how awesome content like this goes to hell.....
The two bell end's killed it again
I've taken UK and US bike licence tests and I was very impressed with how difficult the UK tests were to pass with a perfect score. No wonder I find the average UK rider is much more competent than the average US rider.
should look at the Spanish bike test. THAT is a nightmare jaja
@@javiglez4544 I was about to write the same
@@juanaijon1014 Oh fuck. Im reading this 1 year later....Im about to move to Barcelona and eventually get my driver's licence for motorcycles....125cc tho
Javi Glez Es un puto examen para doble de acción, a mí no me engañan
I just watched a video of the US car test, they basically give driving licenses away
Fookin ell its luke skywalker
ITS MARK HUMALL
The force is strong with this one
Giving me anxiety, after doing all 3 bike tests just to get to where I am now! So glad I never have to do any of it again...
Sloppy Boggler Sounds about right. I turned up for a test once without a theory pass certificate (I just had the certificate number), I rang up to ask if that was OK they said yes. Built myself up for this test to be told I wasn't allowed to do it... I went away angry af, complained and they said I should have been allowed to do it. I don't know why you were turned away. They did refund me but only for the test not the bike I had hired and so on.😒
shit thing about the A2 is you DO have to do it all again.. when you want the unrestricted A license 2 years later :/
Glock Wan Yep. Such a blag having to go and do it all again...
I passed mine like 2 years 5 months ago and haven't bothered to do the A yet, time effort and money to prove I can pass the same test I did all that time ago with almost 20k extra miles in the saddle
The real kicker is when they make you do the cbt again... Imagine you've been riding around on one of the bikes in this video for a few years, decide you want to get something bigger, then the first thing you have to do is learn to ride a 125 lolololol.. only in this country!
Man this takes me back, I actually had a lot of fun when I did my test and training, both the guys that trained me and my examiner were really chilled and friendly, the only bad part about getting a license is doing the theory honestly.
The Cheshire Cat is it part of the a2 license?
For me it was this part. Theory was easy and so was the road test but that dreaded U turn made me nervous and tests don't usually make me nervous
jony walabi I'm not sure about modern licensing as when I took my test it was before the law changed, all I remember is I did my CBT and theory, did a 5 day intensive course and took my full bike test, things have gotten more complicated since I passed is my understanding but I never looked into it.
It's now basically; CBT > Theory ( or theory > CBT ) > mod 1 (off road handling) > mod 2 (road ride).
That applies for going from no license to any license level and age restricts what license level you can obtain pretty much.
Not matter what, you guys do amazing work! I think I would even watch a 44T video of glue drying. Or Fagan combing his hair.
I took my bike training at ART, did a direct access. I have ZERO bike time before I went there, came away after 3 days training with a full bike license and 1 minor on my A2.
Can’t recommend them enough, the guys working there are great and really experienced.
Great work 44T!
ferrarithedude
How much was it buddy? I'm planning to do the same. Enough bikers envy.
Never mind. I just called them. After you've done your their and CBT, the rest is£700 and some change. for an adult access course.
well done mate, i hope you have many years of great riding ahead :)
ReerBaadia now you’re asking! A year ago I paid roughly £550-600 for everything. So that’s CBT, training at ART motorcycle training, bike rental (included gear but I had my own) and tests. That figure is top of my head. But there or there abouts 👍. Honestly it’s great fun and highly recommend doing it!
ferrarithedude if you fail it then is that another £700? I want to get a bike license but everything i read online suggests that I need to take like two weeks off work to do a course. Never knew your could do it in 3 days
Mr Ebola no you would just pay for the test and rental of the motorbike. I took off Friday and the following Monday for test day. So two days off work and had the weekend training. CBT was on a different weekend. Hope this helps
Remember thinking how difficult it would be, then leaving the test center thinking "wow that was easy".. great video 😉
I have am doing my a2 licence in a few month's and I'm worried its going to be hard but this has reassured me a bit! 🙏😐👍
I remember my test it was quite enjoyable. This is a great demonstration for new riders to watch.
Really enjoying the ‘challenge’ style videos guys! Really top quality filming, editing and sound as well, loving the content!
Passed my test 4 days before these new laws came in, was the happiest I've ever been when I was told I'd passed.
Great work gents, enjoyed that - having a camera man has got to be the way to go to get pro looking content, good luck with achieving your goals! All the best - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer - I offered? 😉
Yes thanks Paul - It is the way to go if you want approaching TV quality production for sure......
If I had the money, I would invest a lot of it in these guys so they would get a tv show or netflix/amazon show going. No doubt it would be a success
xuijing i can add 100 bucks mate
I agree they are great guys with humour, but without foul language
every single video is golden
Passed for a while now but this still brings back feelings of nervousness. Hate being tested so formally.
Top tip - If you start in the right box, the stand is on the correct side for a single crescent turn into the other box. The more upright the bike, the lighter it feels. Nice vid as always gents. Thoroughly entertaining.
I thought the instructor was Luke Skywalker 🤣🤣
Al looks legit pissed about this, Love your content gents. Well played
Great job chaps. Having just taken my test (DAS) in Feb I can say it's so much easier on a bigger bike (took mine on an ER-6N). The stability that the engine revs give you is incredible when you're used to a 125! The test center also has one of the best pieces of tarmac you will ever ride on!
How does this channel only have 102k subscribers? You deserve 102 million subscribers.
This is great. Especially with my A2 coming up soon.
Brilliant! I've got my full bike test on Sunday and I completely forgot about shoulder checks!! Thanks guys :)
Man I am so glad there aren't classes of bikes here in the USA. I've been riding for 40 yrs, on the same original written and road test. And now that I've relocated to Maryland, You only have pass inspection once!
Thanks Steve for helping the boys put another great vid together. This had me grinning the whole time.
Hilarious, great stuff chaps would hate to go through this again so we’ll done for sharing!!
Did my A2 on a early 90s Honda CB400 SF with an acra can on it. The thing had a mad sound on the high RPMs also the test is kind of different in Greece you actually have to come to a full stop after reving it at a bit more than 5k on the second gear. You had to see the face of the two examiners... Priceless
You two are like Performance Bikes magazine from the 90s used to be. Good job. Well done.
Hilarious!
Shout out to my instructor, Walt, in Lincoln!! What a hero! Now retired. 😻
I am so glad I passed my test over 10 years ago. I'm not saying I couldn't do this, of course I could, but they've made it proper hard and the nerves on the day could easily get the better of you
That manual handling from Fagan had me rocking in my chair. Wheeling it straight across into the next box and facing the wrong way. Classic, fucking classic. totally agree though, being watched can really throw you off if you let nerves get the better of you.
Got a Gixer 600, been Riding for Years and after a Winter Park up i usually go somewhere quite and do exactly what these guys have just done just to re-awaken a skill set, it ain't easy to be fair.
Finally lads! What an unexpected surprise. Been waiting for one like this for ages.
I did my CBT at ART a month ago and they were brilliant, amazing instructors and they really do care about you being safe on the road rather than just passing everyone willy nilly I highly recommend.
Ha! Happy days. April 1990, a pursuit test on a far from stock RD125LC, Clip-ons, Micron, Skimmed and bored head, in the pissing rain, on the diesel drenched back streets of Birmingham. I`d never been so scared on a motorcycle before or since.
Man, so close to where I used to live. I used to live in a little village called Smallfield just 5 minute drive north of this place. Really cool to see you guys there in a video.
It sounds daft but my heart was pounding watching you guys do the test. Did mine 5 years ago and I was a bit of a wobbler I have to say. But well done to you guys. Great skills! We all pick up bad habits over the years and it was a good reminder. And to anyone watching who is about to take their test, that is exactly what it is like. Nice film guys. Cheers.
Can't believe the quality and quantity of great content from you guys
Love it guys so happy you did a video on this! I feel your pain I had to do this at 19 for my A2 and now have to do it all over again two years later for my full licence!
I dreaded mod 1 on my DAS. Hit a cone on the slalom and it wobbled around its edge and stayed upright, passed by the skin of my teeth having done the rest of it absolutely certain that I'd failed!
I recently passed my A2 and picked up my CBR500R. Absolutely loving it, can't wait until i'm old enough to do my A license
Well actually Baron did not have a single mistake - check 11:13 - the instructor just didn't catch that moment when Baron was doing the lifesaver.
Well done FAGAN - you had one job.....ONE JOB! ✌
cheers, Mike
Banger after banger guys! Keep them coming ❤️
Fond memories of my DAS mod 1.
I trained with Bristol Motorcycle Training Centre in Hambrook, who have a large enough pad for the high speed stuff too, and passed first time with no minors.
another great one this week! cant wait for BBB #2 :)
Can't lie ART are possibly best motorcycle training centres I have trained with
Nice video lads, took my A2 nearly two years ago now...going to enjoy doing this gumf again even after riding a motorbike for 5 years.
OMG!!! Al's dismount after stalling the bike, had me in tears!!! Hahahaha!
I did my advanced rider training with them and it was absolutely great day and I learnt a hell of a lot after being on a full licence for a year.
I passed my module 1 on Thursday last week. The longest most nerve racking 15 minutes of my life. I passed though with one minor. Progressing onto module 2 now, with training on Saturday and testing on Wednesday. Fingers crossed. :)
I love to see these guys go to USA and do the bike test, then australia also.
I did my tests in the states back in 98, it was pretty easy. Only one I didn't like was the u-turn but I was on a gixxer 600. Is it harder now? Back then, you did the paper test at the secretary of state and then signed up for the parking lot test. Glad I never took my cycle endorsment off my licesne lol
Try getting through the Polish exam. There are 7 steps/tasks
1. Check 2 randomly generated features of the bike (lights, fluids, chain) after that, pull out the bike from parking place (T shaped box) in 3 moves without crossing box lines.
2. 5x figure 8 in 14x7 m outlined box.
3. Slow slalom between 5 gates designated with cones.
4. 2x fast slalom between 3 cones, the average speed between the entrance and exit gates cannot be lower than 30 km/h.
5. Collision avoidance/Moose test. There is an obstacle in the middle of the course and you are to pass around it twice, once each side. At the entrance gate, your speed has to be at least 50 km/h.
6. Uphill start on up to 5.5 deg. incline, the bike cannot stall or move back by 0.2 m.
7. Stopping in designated by the examiner spot and emergency braking using both brakes both from at least 50 km/h.
In all task, you are not allowed to
-touch the ground once the bike is on the move until you exit the "task box",
-hit the cones
-cross the white lines.
If someone is interested in details see the link www.mord.tarnow.pl/#!a-zadania
Crackin up here. You guys make the best videos, brilliant.
Here we have cones around the figure of 8 to limit the size, increasing the difficulty significantly. We also have to drive really slow between 2 markers for 12 seconds and also do an emergency brake test.
So pleased I did my direct access years ago. Don't if it is actually quite hard or just that Al made it look that way. Bragging rights down the pub for Chris.
so glad I passed my unrestricted, "ride around the cones" again. again. again. again. again. again. again. again. again. post traumatic cone disorder.
Love these guys... The Little Britain of Moto vlogging 👍
well you have the same categories for motorcycles like we have in Poland but the tasks are so much different your test is so much easier than ours
I did this 6 years ago - foot down on the U-turn after doing 100 practice runs without a problem so I had to re-take!
1066Rider Same. Went in worried about the U turn and fucked it up on the figure of 8 🤷♂️. Second time was a breeze.
Funny thing is I always foot down while doing them in real life after the test. Fuck that shit.
Where and when was the gruesome 5 car pile-up accident that occurred because someone put their foot down whilst making a u-turn in a parking lot? The dmv wouldn’t just waste our time with a pointless test and charge us for it without reason, would it? That’s impossible. Government agencies do everything else so efficiently. 🤪
Did you manage to pass the second time round? If so, did you do more training before the re-take?
Unfortunately a lot of people drop their foot because they're going too slow because they've been taught to use the brake during these manoeuvres 🤦♂️
That look on your faces at 12:05 is absolutely priceless
This is so awesome! Top notch content lately guys!
The U-Turn was my scary point. The minute I did it with about 3 foot to spare (the best I'd done in all my time of training), I was like "YES!", the rest was easy after that!
I ran into that instructor at the test center last week when I was doing my Mod 1 and 2. The Mod 1 is a lot easier than it looks for anyone getting nervous about it.
Least you didn't do what I did on my road test (after the test centre)... Was waiting for my test while someone else did theirs and I poured myself a cup of tea from the machine, into a polystyrene cup. Problem was, cup slipped slightly, I grabbed hold of it to make sure I didn't drop it and a cup full of hot water poured over my hand. Test centre prevented me from doing the test, but I still rode the test bike 5 miles back to its base! Fun times :D
So funny - Al's face at the end, brilliant lads
Baron working that Smug factor 10 like a boss! >_
Don't think I've ever been so bloody nervous as when I took my test in august last year. I passed, but the maneuver-courses were an absolute nightmare to watch before you got to them yourself.
It's really interesting to see how they handle it in the UK. When I got my A2, I wasn't put on an R3 or a little 390 Duke no Sir. Here in Deutschland, we do things proper. They put me on a BMW F650GS, the later one with the twin-cylinder (limited to 34kW to be A2 legal). Admittedly it wasn't really that hard to handle at all, the most difficult thing about the bike was the clutch at first, because we started off practicing slow maneuvers with the clutch slipping and this bike has a ridiculously heavy clutch pull. My hand was hurting at the end of each session and I couldn't pull it normally anymore at some point. Now I got a GSX-R 600 and it's so easy compared to that, also most driving schools hand you bikes like that, the ER-6n, SV-650 and MT-07 are very popular for that purpose.
Then also our final test wasn't done on a little yard. The Instructor got in a car and you on the bike. Then you went through city traffic for a while to some random spot which was on the end of a slightly active road in an industrial complex (Brunsbütteler Damm if you're curious). Then you had to do the actual tests, like riding in a circle, the "elk test", a 90° turn, "stop and go" and a slalom of course. He didn't even ask if we could push the bike around or anything, which is probably harder than the actual riding part. I'm still a bit insecure pushing my bike backwards lol. What you had to do there in the UK is a LOT harder than what we have to do in Germany.
I feel like the actual 300's are probably less suited as starter bikes honestly. I felt really good on the F650 even though I've never ridden before, liked it a lot. Very fuel efficient, sounded awesome (even with a stock can), torquey as hell and easy to maneuver around town (and oh god don't get me started about the heated grips, they were WONDERFUL!). It's probably easier to ride than an R3 I imagine since it's a lot harder to stall.
But I chose to live the Supersport life and join the Gixxerclub, no regrets.
Interesting points here 👍
It's actually not possible in the UK to take your A2 test on the R300 or the Duke 390 so that's a little misleading. Most schools use restricted bigger bikes, like the SV, er-6n, MT-07 like you said
Would be fun to see the actual safety course with swerving and such.
I was going to comment on some of the test was missed, but then that was explained near the end... So awesome video guys!
Absolutely loved this. As always top quality content with awesome banter 😃
I just had my test this weekend, and although I have plenty of experience, I felt I was still a little nervous and shaky in some of the slow parts. I am very critical of myself, but seeing this makes me feel much better. I was the only one in a class of ten to get a perfect score!!! And I went first on every test throughout the evaluation!
My first thought after the test was "Bloody hell... I have to drive looking backwards all the time!?"
Doing my full DAS this weekend, and this has really shed some light!! Great video fellas!
In the USA, car licence tests are done 100% on the open road(which is nuts). My first go at that, I went to pull out onto the road, turning left, checked left, checked right, checked left, putted half way into the road & the instructor yelled 'TRUCK!', I looked right and a truck had appeared out of nowhere and was hurtling towards us(actually, it had come out of an undulating S curve) I stopped, put the manual shift into reverse and went back into the parking lot.
We sat there for a moment, me expecting the test to be over, but we were both still remarkably composed(disturbingly so, actually) thus, she had us carry on.
Thus, I drove through the whole test, doing all of the bits and pieces of it.
When we got back, she said, "Well, you did very well. You did everything perfectly, except for-"
"When I almost killed us?"
"Yeah, that, , , that was a problem. You'll have to come back and try again."
Glad I did mine at 17, 15 years ago. That shit has got very detailed and scrutinising.
I love how you two talk to each other EXACTLY like I talk to my biker buddies 😅
I was make my licence with them, brilliant team, good to see them again! :)
😂😂... awesome video. I did my DAS with those guys after 30 years off the bike. Great bunch of guys.
I failed my mod 1 first time for stopping (safely) on the wrong line- pissed me right off! Good reminder at how frustrating it is.. 8/10 because lack of wheelies :D
As an A2 rider this was a great watch! Will we see the remainder of the mod 1 or 2?
P.S. Great vid as always, cant wait for the latest BBB episode
Great video, did my mod 1 and mod 2 last year, no minors on both 😀😀
Bit more work required eh
Can you do an A2 test on a 390 Duke? Thought it had a minimum of 395cc
Like Steve, he is a really nice instructor. Did my direct access with ART
I had an a2 license for year and in order to upgrade to a full cat a license had to retake theory and both tests. Failed the theory on hazard perception which is ridiculous as I rode my bike to the test centre. Promptly got on my secretly unrestricted sv650s all the way home feeling justifiably peed off. Anyway passed both my practical tests with no minor faults and got praised by the mod 1 examiner for scraping the pegs on the acceleration curve before the avoidance exercise. Cheers fucking easy. Robbing bastard government though!
Great video - nice to see you were down at ART, did my test there last year. What a fantastic riding school!
I'm currently doing my direct access at the moment I also fail my mod 1 twice and and mod 2 once 😅 I have a retest in a couple of weeks. Fingers crossed I do it this time as I have just got my lovely zx6r sitting in the garage begging to be ridden . Love the videos guys 👌
And THIS is why you should have a TV show! From Moroccan road trip to Mod 1 test. If Joey from friends can get the top gear gig, then surely you 2 can get a spot?! Great stuff guys, keep it coming :-)
Great video, I thought this might go down the piss taking route. But cool that you do film this kind of thing for the newbies making your channel appeal to all
Have a fail for both riders in the U-turn. Neither used their indicators lol. "Treat it like you are on public roads" means you have to indicate when you change direction :3
Not true. I passed about a year ago without indicating on the u turn. I was also never told to, no one even ever mentioned it.
I had it mentioned many times. a fellow rider almost failed because they forgot to blink in that U turn
Passed my A2 almost two years ago, got this test to do again for my full A in October