I so agree with you. How dreadfully sad that he happened to go to the wrong place at the wrong time. The murder of he and the others will haunt all of us forever. He was so young. May they all rest in perfect peace. 🙏🏻
@@lillianflorence6056 Tex and Katie are still alive too. Tex claims he is a minister to Christ now, when he claimed to be the Devil when he killed. No one is buying his claims.
That’s how it is. If he was a celebrity, we’d know more about him. The media was simply talking about what the public wanted to hear. They didn’t know Steven. They knew Sharon. We have to be realistic. I’d be very hurt if my family member’s death was overshadowed by a celebrity’s death but that’s just how it is.
@@dorriegibson8074, I am sorry that I couldn't spell the other name. Everyone in those two days died a very painful death and I am sorry for every family member who lost their loved ones because of some stupid reason. One of the female Manson family member's said they were killed because they killed a tree. You mean you slaughtered 7 people because they killed a tree. It was an interview with with a devoted family member and I can't remember her name. I think it was Sandra or something like that.
@@marylagasse8108: Sandra Goode. She is insane and I don't know that I would buy what she says. She and "Squeeky" Fromm lived in Sacramento for awhile, where they formed a two-person cult devoted to saving the environment. They wore hooded red robes and sent threatening letters and answering machine messages to executives of companies that were supposedly ruining the environment. "Squeeky" tried to shoot President Ford and spent decades in prison. Goode did time for using the mail to threaten people. (I don't know what Squeeky's real name is; maybe someone reading this might be able to say in a comment.)
About his father finaly can hug his son and cry on his shoulders, it is making my thout dry and my eyes filed whit tears😢 It is so true but too sad to think about it😭
Thank you for telling us about Steven Parent. He is the forgotten victim. Just a person wanting to sell a radio. So very sad. Rest in peace Steven. Some people do remember you.
So sad. ..isnt it. Can you imagine what the friend, who declined Steven's invitation to come for the ride that night, has lived with all these decades. It was not the friend's fate to be there and get killed that night......or perhaps that friend couldve been the game-changer. We will never know. God bless👍
Thank you Scott for this thoughtful and detailed video on Steven Parent. Poor kid. He was hardly more than a child. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Steven. Of all the victims at the Tate residence, he often seems the most forgotten. May Tex Watson rot.
I especially feel for the Parent family. May Steven RIP. I hope his family that died after him are reunited with Steven especially his mother and father.
And after all that brutality,Tex Watson still wants to get out of jail claiming he’s now a changed christian man,how convenient😡He should rot in jail and never get out!!!
And to add insult to injury, he’s been allowed to get married, have conjugal visits and father children. Yet Sharon wasn’t allowed to have her baby. Steven wasn’t even allowed to find a partner, much less have kids. There is no justice in this world.
That's enough reason to keep him in; he's a religious fanatic. He's likely to kill abortion doctors. (And feel justified in doing so even though he killed an unborn baby that was as fully developed as a newborn baby.)
Manson told all his imprisoned morons to do religion because it would help them get out. Many did, though it hasn't helped, fortunately. He didn't bother as he knew he would never be released. Watson, like Bruce Davis and the late and not missed Atkins, all did religion. All phonies.
Thank you for talking about him. Whenever a famous person dies or is killed they overshadow others that perished along with them. Kind of like Kobe Bryant. You hear so much about him and his daughter but not as much about the other lives lost.
You are correct on that one. I wonder how people would react if you mentioned the first and last names of the people who died in the helicopter crash, and then said "and some guy who plays basketball along with his daughter."
Clarissa Jackson. Fuck that guy Kobe. Over payed athlete made millions playing a gym class activity for kids. You think he'd give a fuck about you if the tables were turned. Hell no. He'd be too busy counting all his loot. Fuck that guy.
In the book Helier Skelter, Bugliosi writes that Mr. Parent said the night they found out that Steven was dead, the family got in a bed and held each other while crying all night. That always stayed with me. Heartbreaking. Thank you, Scott, for another marvelous video. You are so humane and thoughtful in your approach , and I really appreciate it.
Showing that clock number change at the end really brought home how this young man's time was cut so savagely short. Thank you for reminding everyone that not-so-famous people can die just as quickly and needlessly.
Thanks for doing this video. Steven Parent has been perhaps the most overlooked of the Manson victims except by his family. He was a valuable person, too, and who knows what he might would have accomplished if he hadn't have died so young. If he was still alive today, he still wouldn't even be 70 yet.
My family became parishioners at Nativity Church in El Monte about 8 years after Steven Parent's death. I went to school there too and had no idea that Steven lived around there until many years later. This video is very informative and very well done. Thank you for keeping the memory of this promising young man alive.
I heard that when the El Monte Police Department showed up at the Parents home to notify them of Stevens death, the El Monte Police Officer handed his Father a card and to call the LA Coroners Office. Then the Officer left. If that is what had happened, it was a very cruel and unprofessional way to give a Death Notification. I was a cop for 28 years and sadly I had to do this unpleasant tasks too many times. What we were trained to do was to find out what had happened to their son. Then you get the name of the Investigator who is handling the case. Then you go over the Parents house to notify them and most important, STAY WITH THEM, even if it takes your entire shift. You offer to drive the family any place that they need to go. Give them a card with your cell number on it and to stay in touch with the family. I guarantee you these small gestures will make a big difference for them. If this scenario happened different from what I had been told, then I apologize to the involved Police Officers.
If the police behaved in the way you describe then agreed, very cold but the world was a very different place in the 60's. However, things change and put in place because of the past; which is all we can do. Can't change the past but can own it, learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes. I'm sure that the officer you were in the first year compared to the last was a complete contrast. You would have eradicated your flaws/mistakes and extenuate your positive traits. I'd never want to go back to being in my 20s....I love being older
Steven, many thanks for your reply. I agree with your theory . 1969 was a totally different time for Law Enforcement. I am so glad that I am not a cop now. During my career, I never saw such animosity towards us before. I worked in an middle class area and I wasn’t exposed to stuff as horrendous as the Manson Murders. My only concern was for Steve Parents family. The way the notification went down was in direct contrast to the way all of in Law Enforcement were trained in those cases. I hope that you live a long and happy life. Best Wishes 👍
Thank you so much for this. I have seen his sister Janet here on RUclips that shows a parole hearing she attended along with Debra Tate and a relative of the LaBiancas. It is good to find out more about Steven. He deserves the same amount of attention as the other victims.
Have you heard any more about her?? I watched the parole hearing with her speaking against the release of Atkins.. But that was yrs ago.. how is she and her brothers doing now?? Does she still attend parole hearings?? Such a sad story about a young life brutally taken in his prime. 💔
@@gaynorpatterson2915 I haven't heard any more about Janet in regards to whether she is still attending parole hearings, but I did some research online and she and her two younger brothers are alive and well. Their mother died in 1984 at the age of 54, and there is little doubt that her grief over the loss of Steven hastened her demise. Their father is apparently still alive at the age of 95 and living in Texas, having outlived his oldest child by more than 50 years.
Scott you are a perfectionist , your attention to detail is beyond anything on any other channel, so glad I found your station. It was a horrible 1969 that such murders could occur in Hollywood , these murders were read about around the world. What’s amazing to me is one of the girls involved with Mason and a murderer herself is up for parole , again in 2022 she has been denied all along throughout the years but her attorneys are pressing hard for her release can’t believe it, Sharon Tate’s sister I believe her name is Pamela attends the hearings when they come up ( hope she doesn’t pass away no one else left in the Tate family) but when she attends the parole hearing she reminds the parole board of the horrific murders of Sharon and all her friends , Steve parent and the LaBiancas so many life’s lost in that 2 day drug fueled rampage.The way they all died still to this day brings me to tears and a baby also died.
@@marianapgar4409 Steven Parent's father, Wilfred Parent, died October 12, 2023 in Stephenville, Erath County, Texas at the age of 98. His wife, Juanita, who died in 1984 at the age of 59, is buried at Erath Gardens of Memory Cemetery in Stephenville.
This video is a tremendous addition to "Six Degrees of Helter Skelter" wonderfully hosted by Scott. I love the driving scenes to the various historical locations. Scott's depth of knowledge and attention to detail is incomparable. To my knowledge, Scott is the only presenter who has remembered Steven Parent so thoroughly. A fantastic job. Thank you so much.
Leslie Van Houten was released but she was only involved in The LaBianca murders she was not present when Steven Parent and the other 4 Tate victims were slaughtered. Now Patricia Krenwinkel plans to take her case to the appellate court to try to get released after Governor Newsom reversed her parole recommendation by the parole Board. Tex Watson has been using religion for years to try to get out he is 78 and still in prison he is the only one of the surviving Manson killers that has not been recommended for parole.
Scott, one of the many things I have always admired about you is your attention to detail on the biographies of the people you share with us. You even had the license plate number of his father’s car!!! Thank you for sharing this with us, as always, I’m looking forward to the next one!
I agree that Scott did provide a lot of interesting details. He was inaccurate, though, when came to identifying Mr. Parent's car. The car in which Steven Parent was killed was a 1966 RAMBLER Ambassador. For the most part, the Nash name went away in the 1950's when Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors. The Nash moniker, however, continued to be applied to the stand-alone Metropolitan until that vehicle was discontinued in 1962.
Many moons ago I watched Sharon Tate's mother, who was a tough lady, say to Tex Watson who was requesting parole at the time, when do I get parole?!! WHEN?!! Becuase I was given a life sentence of pain and suffering.
Wow Scott, I just learned so many things about Steven Parent that I never knew. Your narrative really made him so much more than just a name. He was an 18 year old with a busy life, not always a perfect kid but he didn’t get the chance to live up to his potential. And the way his parents were informed of his death was a horrible chapter in the life of Steven Parent. As always, thank you for taking the time to do the research and bringing out the humanity of Steven Parent.
Thanks for remembering Steven with this sad but beautifully done video. I never knew anything about him except to hear his names mentioned in the murders. My gosh, I can imagine his mother was worried sick to have her fears come true. Rest In Peace Steven 🌻
Thank you for giving this mostly forgotten young man some attention. Cannot imagine the grief his family endured both then and even to this day. May he RIP.
@@mJoN3s-w6l What? She actually said that? There are some sick women out there in regards to some really sick men. Richard Speck, the man that killed those 8 nurses in the sixties, said that he had women write to him that wanted to marry him. Even he thought that was weird.
I totally disagree. Anyone who knows anything about the events of 09th August 1969, will probably know more about Steven as they would Jay, Wojcech and Abigail. In fact the odds of his being there at that time and on that date make his inclusion in the Tate-LaBianca murders even more intriguing. It makes me wonder was that his first visit to that address. If you could have been anywhere in the world on the night of 09th August 1969, you wouldn't have wanted to be at a get-together with Sharon Tate or visiting with the property caretaker.
I think it would've been cool if "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' had a scene where Steven Parent drove up near Cliff as he was walking his dog (while tripping), and asked Cliff if he was interested in buying his radio!
This is why I love Scott. His work is always meticulously detailed and thoroughly researched. Who else takes the time to shoot all these locations and obtain vintage ads? He’s never a pompous ass about his level of knowledge and presents his opinion as just that. I always heard Steven Parent was the first to be killed and never even heard about the wooden fence being damaged. Amazing work, Scott. Thanks for doing these videos.
It's weird how a lot of people are 'obsessed' with the Tate/LaBianca murders, I'm one of them, and Scott explains it most accurately. Nobody does it better.
I never knew much about Steven Parent. I always felt so bad for him because he seemed forgotten. Thanks for correcting that. The drive to Cielo was eerie. God bless him and the other victims. Thank you.
Thank YOU, Scott, for doing this 'video'... Steven Parent's story is often neglected in the retelling of the Helter Skelter mess... You did a wonderful job for him...
Thank you for this. I never thought that he would be the last to die, it was presumed he was the first. That does make sense that all that damage was from him fleeing after seeing that. I don't care if he was gay/ not gay, a thief/ confused kid, h3 didn't deserve what happened to him. He was a kid, most kids mess up in life.
This was great, Steve had such a brief life and he gets forgotten in the narrative. Like Randy Hughes in the Patsy Cline crash and the pilot in the Buddy Holly crash. Thank you for giving Steven Parent the respect and attention in this vlog, Scott.
I grew up in Camden Tn. where the crash happened that killed Cline, Hughes, Hawkins and Copas. There’s a small memorial there at the site. But it seems very inadequate considering Clines impact on country music at the time.
Thank you for bringing recognition to this young man's murder. So many people only remember Sharon Tate and her friends. Also, the drive was very interesting. Seeing the actual streets he drove on and the beautiful scenery added a lot to the narrative.
Scott, this was outstanding. I knew very little about Steven Parent, so I was glad to see you had done a very thorough, well researched history of him. Thank you so much!
This young man had his whole life ahead of him just like all the other POOR victims not knowing that his LIFE and THEIRS would be taken for no DAM REASON GOD BLESS R I P 🙏🙏
I lived in El Monte all my life, went to Arroyo High School. I've heard about Steven Parent and the El Monte/ Manson connection. When I was a little older, I dont know if it's true or not, I heard that Manson lived in Monrovia and his"Family" would try to say they were selling magazines and try to get into your house in El Monte and cities around us. I remembered my dad buying a gun and talking about people trying to come into peoples houses and killing them. So it's almost simular stories. Still scary to this day!
I grew up in Tucson, and when in high school 1969-'73 I FULLY remember every now and again the doorbell would ring....always later than any normal person would ring it for a random visit (like 10pm) and there would be some really spooky character trying to magazines. They always wanted to try and get in. I was a big/strong kid for my age, and I truly believe that kept me from having to be too forceful to get these guys out of the doorway. As I write this, I can still picture in my mind clearly one of the times it happened to me. As an older adult now....and seeing things thru an adult filter....the guy I'm envisioning would probably have been like a heroin junkie that had been locked up in prison for many years. Magazine selling was a scam back then, for sure. I'm sure The Good Lord had my back. It could have gone south so quickly.....and so badly.
No lie, I clicked the like button before the video even started playing. Thank you for doing this for Steve. He deserves his own corner in the story of this tragedy. What a fantastic video. Driving up Cielo drive with you was eerie and sad, too. It really felt like I was in the car with you. The end of road with the brown gates was not at all what I had imagined it to be. Your content never ceases to satisfy me. I remember being stuck at an awful dead-end job about 10 years ago and I would always search the internet at work. I didn't know at the time that I was considered a "Death Hag." But I would always search grave sites, celebrity deaths, etc. and deep in the interwebs, I recall somehow stumbling on to your page, Find A Death. And I fell in head first. You had an extensive directory of sooooo many names. People I had never heard of but learned so much about because of you. I have been fascinated with your work and have a great deal of respect for the heart you put into your passion. You have a way of getting into the dirt of the stories but always remain fair and honest and respectful, but always keeping it juicy and tantalizing! And I love the Podcast!!!! I am only an hour from LA and wish I had seen your spot before it closed. I am still trying to get on one of your tours and join you on that James Dean ride-out one day. Keep up the awesome, incomparable work, Scott. There is another RUclips account I think you would like (and anyone reading this). The name is Forrest Haggerty. He takes you to infamous/famous locations of events and deaths via Google Earth. It's incredible. He's got videos of the OJ Killings, Manson, Titanic, The Buddy Holly crash, DB Cooper, etc. Just another cool guy doing his own research like you and sharing it with the world. Anyway, much love. Be safe and well.
I grew up in El Monte, and my uncle was friends with Steven Parent. My uncle was supposed to go with him that night, but as it got later, he didn't feel like it anymore and stayed home. Crazy to think that at some point, I would never have known him or my cousins.
WOW! It was his guardian angel who made him change his mind, not that Steven didn't have an Angel, but there are some people who listen to their instinct and others don't.
johnnysunrocket8618 Correct El Monte is about 20 miles from Bel Air and Beverly Hills where Steve worked his night job. He wouldn’t have driven all the way back to El Monte
Just want to comment on Will Gerratson's behalf. Noone KNOWS for sure what poor Will experienced that night. I personally feel that it's impossible for him NOT to have heard the commotion going on just outside his door. I think he was so paralyzed by fear, he literally shut down. This makes sense in light of how the rwst of his life went. Remember he was just a KID himself when this happened Whatever it was, it messed him up really badly & cut his life short. My heart breaks for Will, everyone always looking sideways at him, like what was he supposed to do ..he had NO phone..no weapon .. he was just a nieve, young kid, in survival mode at that moment in time.
@@tygersflowerz When I sugessyed he " shut down" when ( I believe) he heard the commotion just outside his door & ( I also believe) he heard ENOUGH to be able to know what was going on. I meant as in mentally checking out. Not going to sleep..I was the victim of a home invasion when I was Will's age (19) & I now have c-ptsd. In the moment of trauma/ flashback..I mentally shut down..can't think, can't react..am just frozen in fear. I think this is exactly what happened to Will. I think he tried DESPERATLY to keep his dogs quiet so they wouldn't attract attention..I don't think for a moment he slept at all that night I think he was awake, but in a heightened state of fear & panic & honestly didn't know what to do. Keep in mind, you are talking about a kid..still a teenager. When the cops found him in the morning..I think he was absolutely terrified. If he heard Mrs. Chapman , I think reality of what went down the previous night hit him hard & now he had a new problem as he KNEW everyone would look at him as the perp, for the main reason that he was the only person alive on that property. When you look at Wills life after that date. He, like Roman's agent, Bill Tennant ( who made the ids on the bodies) was severly traumatised & I believe this contributed to both their early deaths. Will Garretson passed the lie detector because he is innocent. That's just my take on Will. As someone with severe trauma, I can make more sense of how & why Will reacted the way he did.
I think that Will could not have helped but hear not only the gunshots, but there had to be screaming and such going on throughout the ordeal. After all a woman got out of the house running and was felled out in the yard of that house. Just think of screaming, yelling and physical commotion inside and outside as well. I believe I would have been paralyzed in total fear, heart about to bust out of my chest, praying no one found me, breathing and heart rate abnormal, and trying to keep dogs quiet, all at the same time. It’s almost unimaginable what Will went through that awful, awful night. I remember being terrified at that time with no one understanding the Tate and LaBianca murders so much alike, and no one knowing when or if it would happen again. All of the dead went through unspeakable terror before they finally died. RIP to each and every one of them. Poor Will lived through it and paid a tremendous price for it.
There were no cell phones back then, and he was isolated up there on that hill. The killers could’ve still been in or on the property. I would’ve been so mortified that I would’ve hid in a closet - anywhere- and stayed there in a state of terror until help arrived.
I don’t judge him for what he did or didn’t do that night. Perhaps he didn’t hear anything as he was supposedly listening to music. We’ll never know. I think he already had some mental issues and being connected to the murders - and initially blamed for them - didn’t help. He later changed his story and said he heard a woman (presumably Abigail Folger) saying, “Stop. I’m already dead.” but thought they were playing a game or something? Then he went on to hang out with that lunatic woman Rosie Polanski who claims she’s the baby Sharon was carrying when she was murdered and was whisked away by aliens or the CIA or some shit.
The problem with Garretson is that while we can understand how and why he hid and cringed while the slaughter took place, probably couldn't have done much anyway, his failure to be honest about what he heard or saw, and his constantly changing version of that night are less excusable. Also, it is suspected, and I think very possible, that Watson sent Krenwinkle to check the rest of the property, she saw Garretson hiding, and since he wasn't a 'rich piggy' like they hated, she gestured to him to keep quiet, and she let him live; the only decency left in her. Again, everytime he told the story, to the time he died, it changed. I do not think he ever found the courage to set the record straight.
Really nice video Scott. I often think he is the lesser mentioned of all the victims so total respect to you telling his story. Love your videos and hope to someday come over from England for one of your tours.
One of the most stunning and absolutely awful crimes ever. I've had an admittedly morbid curiosity about it for years. I was 5 when it happened and I think a curiosity like mine comes from a fear of such a thing ever happening to me or someone I know. Those people were just totally mellowed out at home, after eating dinner out, and were heading off to bed, and next thing you know a bunch of drug crazed lunatics are running around stabbing and shooting you. An absolute nightmare. On January 2, 1982 (yes I remember the date) when I was 18, I got home late one night from my after school job. I moved about the house for close to ten minutes when it became apparent that the noise I'd been hearing from the 2nd floor and on the staircase was NOT my parents. There were two burglars in the house and I know now that they were apparently trying to just evade me and get out of the house. But at the time, when I was upstairs and realized what was up, I went flying down the stairs, out the front door (they went out the back), jumped a fence, and ran to the neighbors to call the police. I was totally freaked out and to this day have lived only in apartments since then, where there are other people around. I don't feel safe in a house. Partly I guess because of stories like the Tate murder, and partly because I experienced that incredible panic in the sanctuary of my parent's house where I'd lived since I'd been born and was sure was a perfectly safe place. It was never the same after that.
A fascinating video Scott. I feel that often in the re-telling of the Tate/La Bianca/ Manson saga that the story of Steven Parent is often overlooked. As many have commented below, he truly was a young man in the wrong place at the wrong time who forever it seems has just been a byline to one of the most notorious crimes of our time. Thank you for sharing this.
It's not a recording studio. It was a stereo electronics chain store. Jonas Miller Stereo. There was one in Modesto California in the 70s back when I was a kid. FYI
Thanks for this. I taught music for two years at Arroyo HS, '79-81. Steven's name is on a memorial there, mostly filled with the names of war dead. I went to Jonas Miller a lot. Great gear there, and Jonas was a very nice person. Didn't know of the Manson connection at that time. They also had a record company, M&K Records. I once saw Ray Manzarek and his Yoko Ono lookalike partner in there. RIP Steven, Hail Knights!
Her name is Dorothy, & she is Mrs. Manzarek- his wife, & now his widow. It's reflects a very two-dimensional outlook on people, to just label her 'Yoko Ono lookalike', when the Manzareks were together before John Lennon ever met Yoko Ono, & they are completely different human beings. These are real people, Jennifer, not dolls on a shelf.
ResearchSoundLab Actually in hollyweird & laurel canyon there r many doubles so not as strange as it seems. Check out Miles Mathis Psyop that stifled a generation that makes one rethink this & other cases coming out of there.
Scott Michaels is amazing. An incredible researcher - I have always appreciated his work. He is documenting our past for future generations - thank you.
This story and its players never gets old to me the more I learn the more I want to know more about it all even after hearing every interview and documentary
What a very informative vlog about a young fellow that was in the wrong place at the wrong time . Thank you Scott for giving us a lot of information that is not well known about this young man. Rest in peace Steven Parent.
Ive never heard the alternate theory of the sequence of events. Thanks Scott.BTW those are really good clock radios, I had one similar to that back in the 70's early 80's.
Fascinating. I love driving around LA. Unfortunately my trip this year has been cancelled due to this Covid crap. Thank you for driving me around in your videos, almost like I'm there. Love to Steven Parent.
I was 14 at the time of this massacre. I remember feeling horrified and glad I lived on the East coast. My sympathies to all the families and friends of the victims. Well done video.
Dearest Michael, you are so knowledgeable and each time I watch a video there is something new that I didn’t know. Your videos are wonderfully filmed, narration is impeccable, and content is so thorough. God bless Steven and every other victim who were killed by these idiots. I am addicted to old Hollywood and the history of the place. I cannot stand any of these actors now a days they are no where near as talented. Thank you for another interesting and historic video. I loved it 💓💓💓💓
Could you do a video on Garretson? I’ll never understand how he was in that guest house and didn’t hear anything when everyone in the main house was getting slaughtered.
I would like to see a video on Garretson if possible too - very interesting character...There are so many conflicting reports on what he heard/saw/did or didn't - researching him takes you down a long rabbit hole!
He said that he was wearing headphones and listening to music, when he was questioned, but many years later, had changed his story to actually hearing screams.
@@stephaniebaker1542 Yes, he was on a documentary in the 90s and stated he heard firecrackers - but thought it was Stephen messing about as he left - and he thought the scream was possibly from a party - he ended up suing the police, courts etc for accusing him of the murders and the trauma he went through.
When I was a kid my parents bought a sterio hi fi system they gave those out as a complimentary record , it was mainly instrumental. Very cool ,,poor kid ,steven parent ,,,its still sad ,,did you ever talk to garrertson about the vist??? Its so sad. For all who were brutally murdered. Great video Scott you are a true Gem ,, love n peace my friend ,, adore all your wealth in your knowledge
Thanks so much for keeping young Steven's memory alive. As an Australian, I found your drive through the neighbourhood fascinating. Over on this side of the world we only get to hear of the mansions of the Hollywood A Listers and celebrities from afar. Lovely area! Tragic end to an innocent young man's life. William Garretson was one very lucky guy to be spared the same fate. Great video Sir!
Thanks for this. I taught music at Arroyo HS, 1980-82. I also shopped at Jonas Miller quite often. It was a great high-end audio store and recording studio. They also made their own brand of speakers (M&K). In the photo, that is Jonas on the right. I once saw Ray Manzarek of The Doors shopping there, around 1984.
Well done. This young man was completely overshadowed in this horrific crime. He looked like such a sweet kid. This is the first time I have ever seen anything on this boy. God bless you Steven❤️❤️
Scott Michaels is the most interesting guide and he brings to life with unabashed honesty and clarity...No hidden agenda or embellishments...just the plain simple facts. Always a pleasure to listen to him tell the stories of Hollywood's past. In a word...Scott is the Best at what he does...Telling it like it was. Thanks, Scott, for being true and honoring those who have no voice. Your friend and fan, David Oman
Thank you Scott. I stumbled on to your videos by pure accident. I was 19 when this all unfolded. For some reason I have always had a morbid fascination with this tragic case. The information that you bring forward has really helped me fill in some gaps in what I have learned through the years. Again, thank you.
Thank you for spotlighting the victims. My cousin's friend made a documentary on Jay Sebring, another forgotten victim. 😢 it's an excellent opportunity to remember these lives cut too short.
Hey Scott, never thought about Steven being the last to die that night, but your theory seems really correct with what he stated to Watson about not saying anything, RIP Steven and all the others!
I always thought Steven had to be the last one to die. It makes sense because the residents in the house would have heard 4 gunshots going off 15-20 yards from the front door. Also explains the damage to the car and the brutality of Steven's wounds.
Why would the killers lie about when they killed him ,once they admitted to the killings and he was the first to die there was no reason for the Manson family to lie, there was nothing to gain from it, don't forget the LA Police did reenactments fire guns and said you couldn't hear them in the house or the guest house.
It really makes you wonder if Parent was the last one to die. I imagine Garretson could possibly give an answer to that question. He supposedly heard the ruckus.
Thanks for posting this...i've always wondered about the other victims' backgrounds, especially Steven Parent. He deserves this bit of attention. May he rest peacefully. Your video is very well put together, and informative. I loved the creative ending...simple, yet powerful.
Steven Parent is the forgotten victim of the Tate Labianca murders. Thank you for keeping his legacy alive, unlike the media who failed him greatly
That poor boy, so innocent and how frightened he must have been when confronted with those evil people.
Poor guy was completely overshadowed by the big names of the other victims, doesn't mean he wasn't important to his loved ones. RIP Steven 🕯️🕊️🕯️
indeed
Wow yeah. I thought I heard all of the names. Interesting and sad
I so agree with you. How dreadfully sad that he happened to go to the wrong place at the wrong time. The murder of he and the others will haunt all of us forever. He was so young. May they all rest in perfect peace. 🙏🏻
Kimberly Hood He deserved to have a life. So sad.
Almost like how the death of Farrah Fawcett was overshadowed by the death of Michael Jackson...
The news media treated him like a nobody. Well, he was a somebody, especially to those who loved him.
Shame, but they would kill any one who was there , cowards .
@@lillianflorence6056 Tex and Katie are still alive too. Tex claims he is a minister to Christ now, when he claimed to be the Devil when he killed. No one is buying his claims.
Just a kid when he was killed. That’s sad.😢
That’s how it is. If he was a celebrity, we’d know more about him. The media was simply talking about what the public wanted to hear. They didn’t know Steven. They knew Sharon. We have to be realistic. I’d be very hurt if my family member’s death was overshadowed by a celebrity’s death but that’s just how it is.
@@EricaL2024he is an unfortunate celebrity now. Crazy
It's good to see that someone talk about the other victims of the Tate murders. No one should be forgotten.
True. It's sad that last year when the 50th anniversary was brought up, that Parent, and The LaBiancas were a mere blip in the story.
@@dorriegibson8074, I am sorry that I couldn't spell the other name. Everyone in those two days died a very painful death and I am sorry for every family member who lost their loved ones because of some stupid reason. One of the female Manson family member's said they were killed because they killed a tree. You mean you slaughtered 7 people because they killed a tree. It was an interview with with a devoted family member and I can't remember her name. I think it was Sandra or something like that.
@cubomania3, but he was important to someone.
@@marylagasse8108: Sandra Goode. She is insane and I don't know that I would buy what she says. She and "Squeeky" Fromm lived in Sacramento for awhile, where they formed a two-person cult devoted to saving the environment. They wore hooded red robes and sent threatening letters and answering machine messages to executives of companies that were supposedly ruining the environment. "Squeeky" tried to shoot President Ford and spent decades in prison. Goode did time for using the mail to threaten people. (I don't know what Squeeky's real name is; maybe someone reading this might be able to say in a comment.)
@@carolhutchinson7763 ,Lynette Fromme
Steve Parent’s dad just passed. He was 98. Now he’s with his son.
RIP Sir
About his father finaly can hug his son and cry on his shoulders, it is making my thout dry and my eyes filed whit tears😢
It is so true but too sad to think about it😭
sadly,He was at the false time at a false Location🙏
@@bettyengel2851 that is more sader😭
@@bettyengel2851"wrong place at the wrong time"
Thank you for telling us about Steven Parent. He is the forgotten victim. Just a person wanting to sell a radio. So very sad. Rest in peace Steven. Some people do remember you.
Imagine going out one night to sell an alarm clock not knowing you were about to become part of history. In the most horrific way possible.
So sad. ..isnt it. Can you imagine what the friend, who declined Steven's invitation to come for the ride that night, has lived with all these decades. It was not the friend's fate to be there and get killed that night......or perhaps that friend couldve been the game-changer. We will never know. God bless👍
I wish the lateness of the hour had prevented him from being out. That’s a creepy time of night.
Could happen again now that one of those killers are out.😳😳😳
Find it sus tbh
A long overdue recognition of this poor young man and his family
Thank you Scott for this thoughtful and detailed video on Steven Parent. Poor kid. He was hardly more than a child. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Steven. Of all the victims at the Tate residence, he often seems the most forgotten. May Tex Watson rot.
I especially feel for the Parent family. May Steven RIP. I hope his family that died after him are reunited with Steven especially his mother and father.
And after all that brutality,Tex Watson still wants to get out of jail claiming he’s now a changed christian man,how convenient😡He should rot in jail and never get out!!!
And to add insult to injury, he’s been allowed to get married, have conjugal visits and father children. Yet Sharon wasn’t allowed to have her baby. Steven wasn’t even allowed to find a partner, much less have kids. There is no justice in this world.
Odd how that happens. Just how many brutal criminals seek forgiveness and release because they found God.
There are no words.
That's enough reason to keep him in; he's a religious fanatic. He's likely to kill abortion doctors. (And feel justified in doing so even though he killed an unborn baby that was as fully developed as a newborn baby.)
Manson told all his imprisoned morons to do religion because it would help them get out. Many did, though it hasn't helped, fortunately. He didn't bother as he knew he would never be released. Watson, like Bruce Davis and the late and not missed Atkins, all did religion. All phonies.
Thank you for talking about him. Whenever a famous person dies or is killed they overshadow others that perished along with them. Kind of like Kobe Bryant. You hear so much about him and his daughter but not as much about the other lives lost.
So true, it makes the story even sadder.
Very true. Everyone has daily or at least someone who love(d) them and misses them
You are correct on that one. I wonder how people would react if you mentioned the first and last names of the people who died in the helicopter crash, and then said "and some guy who plays basketball along with his daughter."
It'd be no news if a celeb wasn't involved, people would forget this even happened unfortunately.
Clarissa Jackson. Fuck that guy Kobe. Over payed athlete made millions playing a gym class activity for kids. You think he'd give a fuck about you if the tables were turned. Hell no. He'd be too busy counting all his loot. Fuck that guy.
In the book Helier Skelter, Bugliosi writes that Mr. Parent said the night they found out that Steven was dead, the family got in a bed and held each other while crying all night. That always stayed with me. Heartbreaking. Thank you, Scott, for another marvelous video. You are so humane and thoughtful in your approach , and I really appreciate it.
Showing that clock number change at the end really brought home how this young man's time was cut so savagely short.
Thank you for reminding everyone that not-so-famous people can die just as quickly and needlessly.
I know ! That really was moving.
And tragically…
Thanks for doing this video. Steven Parent has been perhaps the most overlooked of the Manson victims except by his family. He was a valuable person, too, and who knows what he might would have accomplished if he hadn't have died so young. If he was still alive today, he still wouldn't even be 70 yet.
My family became parishioners at Nativity Church in El Monte about 8 years after Steven Parent's death. I went to school there too and had no idea that Steven lived around there until many years later. This video is very informative and very well done. Thank you for keeping the memory of this promising young man alive.
I heard that when the El Monte Police Department showed up at the Parents home to notify them of Stevens death, the El Monte Police Officer handed his Father a card and to call the LA Coroners Office. Then the Officer left. If that is what had happened, it was a very cruel and unprofessional way to give a Death Notification. I was a cop for 28 years and sadly I had to do this unpleasant tasks too many times. What we were trained to do was to find out what had happened to their son. Then you get the name of the Investigator who is handling the case. Then you go over the Parents house to notify them and most important, STAY WITH THEM, even if it takes your entire shift. You offer to drive the family any place that they need to go. Give them a card with your cell number on it and to stay in touch with the family. I guarantee you these small
gestures will make a big difference for them. If this scenario happened different from what I had been told, then I apologize to the involved Police Officers.
If the police behaved in the way you describe then agreed, very cold but the world was a very different place in the 60's.
However, things change and put in place because of the past; which is all we can do.
Can't change the past but can own it, learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes.
I'm sure that the officer you were in the first year compared to the last was a complete contrast. You would have eradicated your flaws/mistakes and extenuate your positive traits.
I'd never want to go back to being in my 20s....I love being older
Steven, many thanks for your reply. I agree with your theory . 1969 was a totally different time for Law Enforcement. I am so glad that I am not a cop now. During my career, I never saw such animosity towards us before. I worked in an middle class area and I wasn’t exposed to stuff as horrendous as the Manson Murders. My only concern was for Steve Parents family. The way the notification went down was in direct contrast to the way all of in Law Enforcement were trained in those cases. I hope that you live a long and happy life. Best Wishes 👍
@@thomasodetto4670 Who knows for sure if that's what really happened. That might have just been hearsay.
YOU ARE A VERY GOOD MAN!!!!
Thank you for your compassionate and very professional post.
Thank you so much for this. I have seen his sister Janet here on RUclips that shows a parole hearing she attended along with Debra Tate and a relative of the LaBiancas. It is good to find out more about Steven. He deserves the same amount of attention as the other victims.
Have you heard any more about her?? I watched the parole hearing with her speaking against the release of Atkins.. But that was yrs ago.. how is she and her brothers doing now?? Does she still attend parole hearings?? Such a sad story about a young life brutally taken in his prime. 💔
@@gaynorpatterson2915 I haven't heard any more about Janet in regards to whether she is still attending parole hearings, but I did some research online and she and her two younger brothers are alive and well. Their mother died in 1984 at the age of 54, and there is little doubt that her grief over the loss of Steven hastened her demise. Their father is apparently still alive at the age of 95 and living in Texas, having outlived his oldest child by more than 50 years.
@@Bella1neverknows670 Do you have a source for that? It is of course entirely possible that Steven's dad died after I read that about him.
Scott you are a perfectionist , your attention to detail is beyond anything on any other channel, so glad I found your station. It was a horrible 1969 that such murders could occur in Hollywood , these murders were read about around the world. What’s amazing to me is one of the girls involved with Mason and a murderer herself is up for parole , again in 2022 she has been denied all along throughout the years but her attorneys are pressing hard for her release can’t believe it, Sharon Tate’s sister I believe her name is Pamela attends the hearings when they come up ( hope she doesn’t pass away no one else left in the Tate family) but when she attends the parole hearing she reminds the parole board of the horrific murders of Sharon and all her friends , Steve parent and the LaBiancas so many life’s lost in that 2 day drug fueled rampage.The way they all died still to this day brings me to tears and a baby also died.
@@marianapgar4409 Steven Parent's father, Wilfred Parent, died October 12, 2023 in Stephenville, Erath County, Texas at the age of 98. His wife, Juanita, who died in 1984 at the age of 59, is buried at Erath Gardens of Memory Cemetery in Stephenville.
Finally someone showing him the recognition, he was a person too and so rarely talked about
This video is a tremendous addition to "Six Degrees of Helter Skelter" wonderfully hosted by Scott. I love the driving scenes to the various historical locations. Scott's depth of knowledge and attention to detail is incomparable. To my knowledge, Scott is the only presenter who has remembered Steven Parent so thoroughly. A fantastic job. Thank you so much.
Agree . Scott is the best!
Absolutely agree!!
Extremely well stated. That’s why I love what he does.
Nancye Bright me too. And he’s so compassionate as he does it. You can feel that he really cares.
Yes to all of you! Huge fan here.
Seems like a very hardworking young man. Pity his promising life was brought to an end by beings not fit to walk the Earth.
And one is release. 😢
Leslie Van Houten was released but she was only involved in The LaBianca murders she was not present when Steven Parent and the other 4 Tate victims were slaughtered. Now Patricia Krenwinkel plans to take her case to the appellate court to try to get released after Governor Newsom reversed her parole recommendation by the parole Board. Tex Watson has been using religion for years to try to get out he is 78 and still in prison he is the only one of the surviving Manson killers that has not been recommended for parole.
Scott, one of the many things I have always admired about you is your attention to detail on the biographies of the people you share with us. You even had the license plate number of his father’s car!!! Thank you for sharing this with us, as always, I’m looking forward to the next one!
Scott rocks!
Why? Why? Why? This boy didn’t wasn’t supposed to die like this. What a shame!
This boy didn’t even get a chance to fill full his life. Rip Steven parent
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I agree that Scott did provide a lot of interesting details. He was inaccurate, though, when came to identifying Mr. Parent's car. The car in which Steven Parent was killed was a 1966 RAMBLER Ambassador. For the most part, the Nash name went away in the 1950's when Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors. The Nash moniker, however, continued to be applied to the stand-alone Metropolitan until that vehicle was discontinued in 1962.
Many moons ago I watched Sharon Tate's mother, who was a tough lady, say to Tex Watson who was requesting parole at the time, when do I get parole?!! WHEN?!! Becuase I was given a life sentence of pain and suffering.
Absolutely. The victims and the victim’s family get no parole.
I liked it when she asked the parole board "would you want him to be your neighbor?"
Poor guy. WRONG time, WRONG place. Too sad.
I was gonna say the same thing. You beat me to it.
Damn yr hella cute, tho. Js.
Yep sad 😞
Sarah Michelle I know....what are the odds? If he had done anything differently that day, he’d prob be alive today. So crazy.
Wow Scott, I just learned so many things about Steven Parent that I never knew. Your narrative really made him so much more than just a name. He was an 18 year old with a busy life, not always a perfect kid but he didn’t get the chance to live up to his potential. And the way his parents were informed of his death was a horrible chapter in the life of Steven Parent. As always, thank you for taking the time to do the research and bringing out the humanity of Steven Parent.
That Watson person should not be breathing..what a monster he is.
Thanks for remembering Steven with this sad but beautifully done video. I never knew anything about him except to hear his names mentioned in the murders. My gosh, I can imagine his mother was worried sick to have her fears come true. Rest In Peace Steven 🌻
So heartbreaking. Rest in peace young man, we have not forgotten ❤️
Thank you for giving this mostly forgotten young man some attention. Cannot imagine the grief his family endured both then and even to this day. May he RIP.
Great coverage. It's hard to believe if he had lived he would be around 69. GOD rest his soul.
He was born the same year as me-I just turned 69. I remember the Manson murders and it unfathomable to imagine losing my life 51 years ago.
He was robbed of his life.
dianne lake talks about being in manson monster club like its the greatest thing on earth and how she "had the plesure of knowing him". 🤔
@@mJoN3s-w6l What? She actually said that? There are some sick women out there in regards to some really sick men. Richard Speck, the man that killed those 8 nurses in the sixties, said that he had women write to him that wanted to marry him. Even he thought that was weird.
Would have been better if god could have saved him.
Poor Steven. I remember hearing about him when the murders happened. You give more detail about this poor man. Thank you!!
This video tells the forgotten part of the Manson murders.
It really does.
It's sad that he became a footnote in this story.
The Mason family murders is still horrible and mounsterious. A true nightmare. RIP to all the victims.
Very few people remember Steve Parent. Thanks for video.
I totally disagree. Anyone who knows anything about the events of 09th August 1969, will probably know more about Steven as they would Jay, Wojcech and Abigail. In fact the odds of his being there at that time and on that date make his inclusion in the Tate-LaBianca murders even more intriguing. It makes me wonder was that his first visit to that address. If you could have been anywhere in the world on the night of 09th August 1969, you wouldn't have wanted to be at a get-together with Sharon Tate or visiting with the property caretaker.
Thank you for telling us Steven's story. It needed to be said to remember him.
Thank you for sharing about Steven. He gets lost among all the others tragically murdered that night.
Terrific video! ❤
I think it would've been cool if "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' had a scene where Steven Parent drove up near Cliff as he was walking his dog (while tripping), and asked Cliff if he was interested in buying his radio!
Really sad. This would be every parents nightmare.
This is why I love Scott. His work is always meticulously detailed and thoroughly researched. Who else takes the time to shoot all these locations and obtain vintage ads? He’s never a pompous ass about his level of knowledge and presents his opinion as just that. I always heard Steven Parent was the first to be killed and never even heard about the wooden fence being damaged. Amazing work, Scott. Thanks for doing these videos.
It's weird how a lot of people are 'obsessed' with the Tate/LaBianca murders, I'm one of them, and Scott explains it most accurately. Nobody does it better.
Vince Bugliosi explained it all‼️🧐
@Melanie Jarrett Thanks...but all authors want financial💰 book 📚 sales‼️
I have been following the case since I wrote a term paper on it in 1974. It's about time, someone acknowledged Parent.
@Melanie Jarrett Bugilosi was a shyster!👎
@@JerichoMile4 Yep! Helter Skelter......he also wrote about the O.J. Simpson case.
I never knew much about Steven Parent. I always felt so bad for him because he seemed forgotten. Thanks for correcting that. The drive to Cielo was eerie. God bless him and the other victims. Thank you.
Thank you for mentioning Steven Parent, I often wonder who he was, where he was from, his family ect... poor young man, so sad.
I am so sorry for Steven, so young. He had no idea about what was going on there, and he is almost forgotten. Thank you for bring us his memories.
Thank YOU, Scott, for doing this 'video'... Steven Parent's story is often neglected in the retelling of the Helter Skelter mess... You did a wonderful job for him...
I couldn’t have said it better ..thank you..
Yes. Thank you, Scott. The Summer of 69.... Lawd Have Mercy. God bless all of them and their families.
Thank you for this. I never thought that he would be the last to die, it was presumed he was the first. That does make sense that all that damage was from him fleeing after seeing that. I don't care if he was gay/ not gay, a thief/ confused kid, h3 didn't deserve what happened to him. He was a kid, most kids mess up in life.
This was great, Steve had such a brief life and he gets forgotten in the narrative. Like Randy Hughes in the Patsy Cline crash and the pilot in the Buddy Holly crash. Thank you for giving Steven Parent the respect and attention in this vlog, Scott.
John Gardiner? Who's that?
It is sad, that he is barely mentioned.
I grew up in Camden Tn. where the crash happened that killed Cline, Hughes, Hawkins and Copas. There’s a small memorial there at the site. But it seems very inadequate considering Clines impact on country music at the time.
I always felt so bad for Roger Peterson, always just 3 beloved musicians died... yeah and also the pilot guy but whatevs..
Or the pilots and manager in the Lynyrd Skynyrd airplane crash .
Thank you for bringing recognition to this young man's murder. So many people only remember Sharon Tate and her friends.
Also, the drive was very interesting. Seeing the actual streets he drove on and the beautiful scenery added a lot to the narrative.
Scott, this was outstanding. I knew very little about Steven Parent, so I was glad to see you had done a very thorough, well researched history of him. Thank you so much!
this was so good!!! more please
Scott thank you for doing this 🙏🏼 Poor Steven was in wrong place wrong time as all the victims were but he was even more so
You’ve got my SUB.
I really enjoy listening while I tinker in my shop.
This young man had his whole life ahead of him just like all the other POOR victims not knowing that his LIFE and THEIRS would be taken for no DAM REASON GOD BLESS R I P 🙏🙏
You do these so well, makes victims real and that they had lives like the rest of us. The filming and editing is better than the tv producers do.
I lived in El Monte all my life, went to Arroyo High School. I've heard about Steven Parent and the El Monte/ Manson connection. When I was a little older, I dont know if it's true or not, I heard that Manson lived in Monrovia and his"Family" would try to say they were selling magazines and try to get into your house in El Monte and cities around us. I remembered my dad buying a gun and talking about people trying to come into peoples houses and killing them. So it's almost simular stories. Still scary to this day!
I grew up in Tucson, and when in high school 1969-'73 I FULLY remember every now and again the doorbell would ring....always later than any normal person would ring it for a random visit (like 10pm) and there would be some really spooky character trying to magazines. They always wanted to try and get in. I was a big/strong kid for my age, and I truly believe that kept me from having to be too forceful to get these guys out of the doorway. As I write this, I can still picture in my mind clearly one of the times it happened to me. As an older adult now....and seeing things thru an adult filter....the guy I'm envisioning would probably have been like a heroin junkie that had been locked up in prison for many years. Magazine selling was a scam back then, for sure. I'm sure The Good Lord had my back. It could have gone south so quickly.....and so badly.
Poor boy didnt have a chance to really start to live, then he was gone so tragic
No lie, I clicked the like button before the video even started playing. Thank you for doing this for Steve. He deserves his own corner in the story of this tragedy. What a fantastic video. Driving up Cielo drive with you was eerie and sad, too. It really felt like I was in the car with you. The end of road with the brown gates was not at all what I had imagined it to be. Your content never ceases to satisfy me. I remember being stuck at an awful dead-end job about 10 years ago and I would always search the internet at work. I didn't know at the time that I was considered a "Death Hag." But I would always search grave sites, celebrity deaths, etc. and deep in the interwebs, I recall somehow stumbling on to your page, Find A Death. And I fell in head first. You had an extensive directory of sooooo many names. People I had never heard of but learned so much about because of you. I have been fascinated with your work and have a great deal of respect for the heart you put into your passion. You have a way of getting into the dirt of the stories but always remain fair and honest and respectful, but always keeping it juicy and tantalizing! And I love the Podcast!!!! I am only an hour from LA and wish I had seen your spot before it closed. I am still trying to get on one of your tours and join you on that James Dean ride-out one day. Keep up the awesome, incomparable work, Scott. There is another RUclips account I think you would like (and anyone reading this). The name is Forrest Haggerty. He takes you to infamous/famous locations of events and deaths via Google Earth. It's incredible. He's got videos of the OJ Killings, Manson, Titanic, The Buddy Holly crash, DB Cooper, etc. Just another cool guy doing his own research like you and sharing it with the world. Anyway, much love. Be safe and well.
I grew up in El Monte, and my uncle was friends with Steven Parent. My uncle was supposed to go with him that night, but as it got later, he didn't feel like it anymore and stayed home. Crazy to think that at some point, I would never have known him or my cousins.
Fate was on your uncle's side.
WOW! It was his guardian angel who made him change his mind, not that Steven didn't have an Angel, but there are some people who listen to their instinct and others don't.
That can't be true. Steve left to visit Will after work. Miles away from El Monte. Your uncle is wishful thinking.
johnnysunrocket8618 Correct El Monte is about 20 miles from Bel Air and Beverly Hills where Steve worked his night job. He wouldn’t have driven all the way back to El Monte
Scott, what a kind soul you have to take the time to make this vlog
I have to agree! This man is priceless with history.
Well it was covid his business was shut down this was something to do DUH.
Can’t use common sense?
"This is where Steven Parent AND HIS FAMILY lived". Yes he had a family, he really did, because he was a real person, he really was.
Just want to comment on Will Gerratson's behalf. Noone KNOWS for sure what poor Will experienced that night. I personally feel that it's impossible for him NOT to have heard the commotion going on just outside his door. I think he was so paralyzed by fear, he literally shut down. This makes sense in light of how the rwst of his life went. Remember he was just a KID himself when this happened Whatever it was, it messed him up really badly & cut his life short. My heart breaks for Will, everyone always looking sideways at him, like what was he supposed to do ..he had NO phone..no weapon .. he was just a nieve, young kid, in survival mode at that moment in time.
@@tygersflowerz When I sugessyed he " shut down" when ( I believe) he heard the commotion just outside his door & ( I also believe) he heard ENOUGH to be able to know what was going on. I meant as in mentally checking out. Not going to sleep..I was the victim of a home invasion when I was Will's age (19) & I now have c-ptsd. In the moment of trauma/ flashback..I mentally shut down..can't think, can't react..am just frozen in fear. I think this is exactly what happened to Will. I think he tried DESPERATLY to keep his dogs quiet so they wouldn't attract attention..I don't think for a moment he slept at all that night I think he was awake, but in a heightened state of fear & panic & honestly didn't know what to do. Keep in mind, you are talking about a kid..still a teenager. When the cops found him in the morning..I think he was absolutely terrified. If he heard Mrs. Chapman , I think reality of what went down the previous night hit him hard & now he had a new problem as he KNEW everyone would look at him as the perp, for the main reason that he was the only person alive on that property. When you look at Wills life after that date. He, like Roman's agent, Bill Tennant ( who made the ids on the bodies) was severly traumatised & I believe this contributed to both their early deaths. Will Garretson passed the lie detector because he is innocent. That's just my take on Will. As someone with severe trauma, I can make more sense of how & why Will reacted the way he did.
I think that Will could not have helped but hear not only the gunshots, but there had to be screaming and such going on throughout the ordeal. After all a woman got out of the house running and was felled out in the yard of that house. Just think of screaming, yelling and physical commotion inside and outside as well. I believe I would have been paralyzed in total fear, heart about to bust out of my chest, praying no one found me, breathing and heart rate abnormal, and trying to keep dogs quiet, all at the same time. It’s almost unimaginable what Will went through that awful, awful night. I remember being terrified at that time with no one understanding the Tate and LaBianca murders so much alike, and no one knowing when or if it would happen again. All of the dead went through unspeakable terror before they finally died. RIP to each and every one of them. Poor Will lived through it and paid a tremendous price for it.
There were no cell phones back then, and he was isolated up there on that hill. The killers could’ve still been in or on the property. I would’ve been so mortified that I would’ve hid in a closet - anywhere- and stayed there in a state of terror until help arrived.
I don’t judge him for what he did or didn’t do that night. Perhaps he didn’t hear anything as he was supposedly listening to music. We’ll never know. I think he already had some mental issues and being connected to the murders - and initially blamed for them -
didn’t help. He later changed his story and said he heard a woman (presumably Abigail Folger) saying, “Stop. I’m already dead.” but thought they were playing a game or something? Then he went on to hang out with that lunatic woman Rosie Polanski who claims she’s the baby Sharon was carrying when she was murdered and was whisked away by aliens or the CIA or some shit.
The problem with Garretson is that while we can understand how and why he hid and cringed while the slaughter took place, probably couldn't have done much anyway, his failure to be honest about what he heard or saw, and his constantly changing version of that night are less excusable. Also, it is suspected, and I think very possible, that Watson sent Krenwinkle to check the rest of the property, she saw Garretson hiding, and since he wasn't a 'rich piggy' like they hated, she gestured to him to keep quiet, and she let him live; the only decency left in her. Again, everytime he told the story, to the time he died, it changed. I do not think he ever found the courage to set the record straight.
Thanks for doing this vdeo, I always felt Steven was the "forgotten" victim
Really nice video Scott. I often think he is the lesser mentioned of all the victims so total respect to you telling his story. Love your videos and hope to someday come over from England for one of your tours.
It's on my wish list to go see Paris one day
He is
One of the most stunning and absolutely awful crimes ever. I've had an admittedly morbid curiosity about it for years. I was 5 when it happened and I think a curiosity like mine comes from a fear of such a thing ever happening to me or someone I know. Those people were just totally mellowed out at home, after eating dinner out, and were heading off to bed, and next thing you know a bunch of drug crazed lunatics are running around stabbing and shooting you. An absolute nightmare. On January 2, 1982 (yes I remember the date) when I was 18, I got home late one night from my after school job. I moved about the house for close to ten minutes when it became apparent that the noise I'd been hearing from the 2nd floor and on the staircase was NOT my parents. There were two burglars in the house and I know now that they were apparently trying to just evade me and get out of the house. But at the time, when I was upstairs and realized what was up, I went flying down the stairs, out the front door (they went out the back), jumped a fence, and ran to the neighbors to call the police. I was totally freaked out and to this day have lived only in apartments since then, where there are other people around. I don't feel safe in a house. Partly I guess because of stories like the Tate murder, and partly because I experienced that incredible panic in the sanctuary of my parent's house where I'd lived since I'd been born and was sure was a perfectly safe place. It was never the same after that.
Be brave we are with u.
So glad that you and the burglars ran in opposite directions. God was with you. Stay Blessed👍💪
It's sad when that happens in the house you spent your childhood in.
A fascinating video Scott. I feel that often in the re-telling of the Tate/La Bianca/ Manson saga that the story of Steven Parent is often overlooked. As many have commented below, he truly was a young man in the wrong place at the wrong time who forever it seems has just been a byline to one of the most notorious crimes of our time. Thank you for sharing this.
Also what Garretson has to say about what he knows about the night.
I've never heard that he had a second job at a recording studio in Beverly Hills. That stood out to me, considering Terry Melcher's work.
It's not a recording studio. It was a stereo electronics chain store.
Jonas Miller Stereo. There was one in Modesto California in the 70s back when I was a kid. FYI
Thanks for this. I taught music for two years at Arroyo HS, '79-81. Steven's name is on a memorial there, mostly filled with the names of war dead. I went to Jonas Miller a lot. Great gear there, and Jonas was a very nice person. Didn't know of the Manson connection at that time. They also had a record company, M&K Records. I once saw Ray Manzarek and his Yoko Ono lookalike partner in there. RIP Steven, Hail Knights!
Her name is Dorothy, & she is Mrs. Manzarek- his wife, & now his widow. It's reflects a very two-dimensional outlook on people, to just label her 'Yoko Ono lookalike', when the Manzareks were together before John Lennon ever met Yoko Ono, & they are completely different human beings. These are real people, Jennifer, not dolls on a shelf.
ResearchSoundLab Actually in hollyweird & laurel canyon there r many doubles so not as strange as it seems. Check out Miles Mathis Psyop that stifled a generation that makes one rethink this & other cases coming out of there.
This was the saddest this poor kid was so forgotten. Thank you for making him relevant.
Another four star presentation. I never tire of the Cielo Drive/Manson event because so many what ifs.....
Thank you for keeping Steven's memory alive! ❤
Thanks for the information on this young man. He is always overlooked in the Manson murders.
Never knew Steve had a criminal record and I always wondered why he was at the house so late. Thanks for covering his story.
Always loved Scott's voice.
IMO, Sounds like "Rev." Bob Levy (comedian)
Curiously, also Stoner Van Houten.
Scott, you did an awesome job. The ending was brilliant with the clock ticking at 12:15. Sheer perfection!!
Just when I needed it, your released a new video. I love everything you do, Scott. Keep it up!
Scott does amazing, and informative videos, and podcasts!
@@dorriegibson8074 I agree! I could listen to him speak all day.
Scott Michaels is amazing. An incredible researcher - I have always appreciated his work. He is documenting our past for future generations - thank you.
This story and its players never gets old to me the more I learn the more I want to know more about it all even after hearing every interview and documentary
What a very informative vlog about a young fellow that was in the wrong place at the wrong time .
Thank you Scott for giving us a lot of information that is not well known about this young man.
Rest in peace Steven Parent.
Ive never heard the alternate theory of the sequence of events. Thanks Scott.BTW those are really good clock radios, I had one similar to that back in the 70's early 80's.
Thankyou for keeping his memory alive 💛
Fascinating. I love driving around LA. Unfortunately my trip this year has been cancelled due to this Covid crap. Thank you for driving me around in your videos, almost like I'm there. Love to Steven Parent.
I was 14 at the time of this massacre. I remember feeling horrified and glad I lived on the East coast. My sympathies to all the families and friends of the victims. Well done video.
Beautiful job. Thank you for giving him some recognition.
RIP, Steven Parent on this Aug 8, 9, 2020
Just wanna say your videos are amazing. As a New Yorker unable to visit these landmarks - you really bring me there. Thanks.
So nice of you. I appreciate it
Dearest Michael, you are so knowledgeable and each time I watch a video there is something new that I didn’t know. Your videos are wonderfully filmed, narration is impeccable, and content is so thorough. God bless Steven and every other victim who were killed by these idiots. I am addicted to old Hollywood and the history of the place. I cannot stand any of these actors now a days they are no where near as talented. Thank you for another interesting and historic video. I loved it 💓💓💓💓
Thank you for this and remembering Steve. May he rest in Heavenly peace ♥️
Could you do a video on Garretson? I’ll never understand how he was in that guest house and didn’t hear anything when everyone in the main house was getting slaughtered.
That would really be cool to see one on Garretson!
I would like to see a video on Garretson if possible too - very interesting character...There are so many conflicting reports on what he heard/saw/did or didn't - researching him takes you down a long rabbit hole!
That’s easy Tex Watson at one time lived with Garretson in the Gardner shack
He said that he was wearing headphones and listening to music, when he was questioned, but many years later, had changed his story to actually hearing screams.
@@stephaniebaker1542 Yes, he was on a documentary in the 90s and stated he heard firecrackers - but thought it was Stephen messing about as he left - and he thought the scream was possibly from a party - he ended up suing the police, courts etc for accusing him of the murders and the trauma he went through.
Scott I love when you do these it’s like we are there with you- you’re so in depth
When I was a kid my parents bought a sterio hi fi system they gave those out as a complimentary record , it was mainly instrumental. Very cool ,,poor kid ,steven parent ,,,its still sad ,,did you ever talk to garrertson about the vist??? Its so sad. For all who were brutally murdered. Great video Scott you are a true Gem ,, love n peace my friend ,, adore all your wealth in your knowledge
Thanks so much for keeping young Steven's memory alive.
As an Australian, I found your drive through the neighbourhood fascinating. Over on this side of the world we only get to hear of the mansions of the Hollywood A Listers and celebrities from afar. Lovely area!
Tragic end to an innocent young man's life. William Garretson was one very lucky guy to be spared the same fate. Great video Sir!
How sad a reporter had to make the id. He probably had the sense to run the plates. No words. 🥺
Thank you Scott! This was really good information. Steven Parent deserves to be remembered.
Wow, great job, Scott. I knew little to nothing about Steven Parent until watching this. Many thanks and keep up the great work!!
Thanks for this. I taught music at Arroyo HS, 1980-82. I also shopped at Jonas Miller quite often. It was a great high-end audio store and recording studio. They also made their own brand of speakers (M&K). In the photo, that is Jonas on the right. I once saw Ray Manzarek of The Doors shopping there, around 1984.
Well done. This young man was completely overshadowed in this horrific crime. He looked like such a sweet kid. This is the first time I have ever seen anything on this boy. God bless you Steven❤️❤️
Scott Michaels is the most interesting guide and he brings to life with unabashed honesty and clarity...No hidden agenda or embellishments...just the plain simple facts. Always a pleasure to listen to him tell the stories of Hollywood's past. In a word...Scott is the Best at what he does...Telling it like it was. Thanks, Scott, for being true and honoring those who have no voice. Your friend and fan, David Oman
Scott thank you for honoring Steven Parent with this video. May he rest in peace. 😢💔🙏🌹
Thank you Scott. I stumbled on to your videos by pure accident. I was 19 when this all unfolded. For some reason I have always had a morbid fascination with this tragic case. The information that you bring forward has really helped me fill in some gaps in what I have learned through the years. Again, thank you.
Great job, Scott! "Six Degrees of Helter Skelter" is one of my all-time favorite documentaries. You always give interesting details
Thank you for spotlighting the victims. My cousin's friend made a documentary on Jay Sebring, another forgotten victim. 😢 it's an excellent opportunity to remember these lives cut too short.
This is a great piece of history, even though it was about a tragedy. You, sir, make a fine documentary.
Thanks for honoring him.
Hey Scott, never thought about Steven being the last to die that night, but your theory seems really correct with what he stated to Watson about not saying anything, RIP Steven and all the others!
I always thought Steven had to be the last one to die. It makes sense because the residents in the house would have heard 4 gunshots going off 15-20 yards from the front door. Also explains the damage to the car and the brutality of Steven's wounds.
Why would the killers lie about when they killed him ,once they admitted to the killings and he was the first to die there was no reason for the Manson family to lie, there was nothing to gain from it, don't forget the LA Police did reenactments fire guns and said you couldn't hear them in the house or the guest house.
@@katemaloney4296 Spot on Kate!
It really makes you wonder if Parent was the last one to die. I imagine Garretson could possibly give an answer to that question. He supposedly heard the ruckus.
Thanks for posting this...i've always wondered about the other victims' backgrounds, especially Steven Parent. He deserves this bit of attention. May he rest peacefully. Your video is very well put together, and informative. I loved the creative ending...simple, yet powerful.