@@CinematicComposing What if i told you we can do this all with one slider and have them all react in a different manner.. check out GrumpyMonkey plugins.. i'm using Niente and AutoVibrato to do just what I have said in this comments. it's amazing.. I am using the progressive vibrato setting in Auto Vibrato and i use Niente to control the Expression CC. These plugins have changed my life.. their plugin Roll control and Xfade are both really awesome as well. Highly recommend everyone look at these.
To my knowledge, this is by far, the most detailed usage of automation to render strings more realistic. A tons of video just suggest use "automation" but no precise context or examples are presented. Well done!!!
Thanks Marc. As many have said, this is precisely what so many videos lack: a clear explanation of what, how and why. These are complicated tools, and content creators often forget that beginners don’t even know what are the right questions to ask - they just feel the pain of not knowing!
not a classical composer by any means but we like having strings in our library compositions a lot for organic vibes and after watching this video a lot of stuff clicked for me that hadn't really before and a big part of that was those little stepped drops!! it really made things come to life as soon as I tried it on a string line. Cheers!!
KEEPING ASIDE THAT HOW MUCH I LOVE THESE TOPICS. THIS MAN IS MOTIVATING ME WITH HIS WAY OF COMMUNICATION WITH THAT BACKING MUSIC,,,, ADN TO MAKE A NOTE, HIS VIDEOS ARE GEMS, WE CAN KEEP IT IN A BANK OF MUSICIANS.
You advices are so practical that should be applied in every single project. By the way, they work for electronic sounds as well, and almost for any vsti. Looking forward for your new videos
This is by far, the best video I've seen on the tube demonstrating expression with virtual libraries. Other videos I've seen start promoting overpriced (cc focused) midi controllers, and neglect explaining details on why/how to use dynamics/expression/vibrato competently/convincingly.
for years i've been used to just writing stuff by hand, but I'm starting to realize it might just be better to play stuff in. which is tough, because not only it's not what I'm used to, I'm not also that skilled in keyboard. it might take some trial end error, but probably less trial and error/time being wasted than writing midi data in.
Strongly agree with other comments, this is literally the missing link in representing virtual instruments as ‘real’. Great stuff. And the music vocabulary, useful too.
great video. great tips and i learned a lot. i was already using volume automation for some expression but somehow it never occurred to me to automate vibrato, etc. too. and of course, the fact that you don't waste anyone's time cannot be understated. too many guides use too many words for too few ideas. btw i did a double take when you switched to staccato on the fly hahaha. great stuff.
You almost teached me everything I want to know about Strings modulation by this video man, Thank you very much and looking forwarding your new videos!
I have been looking for a video like this for almost a year. I have been enjoying your course very much. Thank you for posting this! Having difficulty with Novation Launch Control as faders in Logic ProX but hoping I can set them up with older Mac operating system to the correct CC's. THANK YOU!
Hi Marc, I'm a composer focused in film scoring and I love your explanation here, it made me realize I've been trying to bring realism out of virtual instruments in the wrong way. I was curious if I could ask your recommendation for a control surface to use the latch function with automation, or if there are any pros or cons in your experience between different models and brands. I primarily use Logic Pro and Native Instruments for context. Thank you for any advice you can share, I hope to work alongside you one day!
Hey Marc great video, thanks for all the help! I just have a (probably stupid) question :) Can I achieve the same result with the 2 knobs on my Native Instruments keyboard? It looks like you're using a totally separate device. Thanks man 👍
This is the secrets I hd been looking for! That being said, I just got myself a Komplete Kontrol S49 keyboard and Cubase Pro and I simply can't figure out how to assign modulation/expression to the knobs of my keyboard... Ideally I'd love to assign the modulation to the wheel (Which I think is CC1 by default...) but I am getting completely lost and confused! Please HELP! 😅
Thank you for these tips!! I need to get me an additional midi cc controller....I only have a midi controller keyboard and it doesn't seem enough. If you don't mind me asking, what gear are you using in this video?
Whoowa i never heard of breath control up till now , thanks i've been searching a to do something like this.... can you please tell me what controller are you using? i m in a desperate need of one ! :) thanks
Thank you very much for the content, I would like to ask if this line that represents the dynamics, could be inserted after the execution of the song, why do I ask, there are pieces of music that require greater attention or perhaps need both hands, and the reaper program would have this function . thank you very much
Great tips! Thank you! But I am having problem; when I look at dynamics (modulation) section in Key Editor there is always a part (just in the beginning) with missing modulation signals (dynamic knob of midi controller falls to zero when I restart track to listen). Then I draw it manually with the drawing tool. It is frustrating. Any solution?
I am a little confused. Specifically about the LOTR dynamics: So Modulation, is probably velocity, but what is expression? Is it a specific setting you manipulate with your mod wheel for the plugin you are using or is it something else? I don't completely understand how I can produce similar effects in my setup and what I am actually changing in my sound. Do I need a specific library like lets say KONTAKT 14?
How do you guys do your expressions with kontakt instruments? I have a oriental strings library, which has “heart of violins” expression (Crescendo Decrescendo). Linking Midi cc11 to the mod wheel is suppose to do the job, but the way fl studio is, it doesn’t work as it should. When i link the cc11 it just does the regular dynamics like how it would be with orchestral libraries. Even the image line employees from the forum admitted that what im trying to do isnt so simple & even if i get a expression pedal it wont work. They say its possible with patcher but thats another headache of its own.
I have been searching for this also, started with the Akai midi mix; faders too short, got the Novation launch control; does not play well with logic, finally I think I found the answer, Presonus faderport 8; faders 100mm., once I found out from presonus how to get logic to recognize the cc's in midi mode (not clear in documentation or anywhere on line, and the customer support is not), finally it is doing what I want, and I can achieve the control I need. More than I wanted to spend, but you can also use it as a DAW controller and hopefully it will be helpful for mixing also.
sorry I dont get it....what dynamic or expression modulation ??? it's automatization of the volume?? (or even better what I have to automate in Logic Pro x to obtein this effect??)
what controller is that? i have cinematic studio strings, but my nord grand keyboard doesn't have any expression control of any kind. can you recommend a usb controller for recording midi dynamics?
Just want to stop by and recognize how much of a gold mine this video is. I keep referring people to it.
Thanks Nico! You're awesome! ❤️🙏
@@CinematicComposing What if i told you we can do this all with one slider and have them all react in a different manner.. check out GrumpyMonkey plugins.. i'm using Niente and AutoVibrato to do just what I have said in this comments. it's amazing.. I am using the progressive vibrato setting in Auto Vibrato and i use Niente to control the Expression CC. These plugins have changed my life.. their plugin Roll control and Xfade are both really awesome as well. Highly recommend everyone look at these.
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There is 0 wasted time in this video. No fluff,no "whats up guys, this is blah blah, today were gonna blah blah". Instantly subscribed.
To my knowledge, this is by far, the most detailed usage of automation to render strings more realistic. A tons of video just suggest use "automation" but no precise context or examples are presented. Well done!!!
Thanks Marc. As many have said, this is precisely what so many videos lack: a clear explanation of what, how and why. These are complicated tools, and content creators often forget that beginners don’t even know what are the right questions to ask - they just feel the pain of not knowing!
not a classical composer by any means but we like having strings in our library compositions a lot for organic vibes and after watching this video a lot of stuff clicked for me that hadn't really before and a big part of that was those little stepped drops!! it really made things come to life as soon as I tried it on a string line. Cheers!!
KEEPING ASIDE THAT HOW MUCH I LOVE THESE TOPICS. THIS MAN IS MOTIVATING ME WITH HIS WAY OF COMMUNICATION WITH THAT BACKING MUSIC,,,, ADN TO MAKE A NOTE,
HIS VIDEOS ARE GEMS, WE CAN KEEP IT IN A BANK OF MUSICIANS.
You advices are so practical that should be applied in every single project. By the way, they work for electronic sounds as well, and almost for any vsti. Looking forward for your new videos
This is by far, the best video I've seen on the tube demonstrating expression with virtual libraries. Other videos I've seen start promoting overpriced (cc focused) midi controllers, and neglect explaining details on why/how to use dynamics/expression/vibrato competently/convincingly.
Thank you, Marc and CC team -- your videos are a great service to the community! Particularly appreciate this one! Thanks again!
that's exactly what i was looking for
Fantastic video my man! To the point, clear and concise instruction 👌🏾
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One of the most valuable videos on the Internet regarding Orchestral music.
This is soooo helpful
! Thanks, Marc!
the best video on this topic on RUclips. This channel is amazing
Name of Zeus ! Absolutely fantastic ! Thanks a lot for sharing this, your clear explanations and your work !
for years i've been used to just writing stuff by hand, but I'm starting to realize it might just be better to play stuff in. which is tough, because not only it's not what I'm used to, I'm not also that skilled in keyboard. it might take some trial end error, but probably less trial and error/time being wasted than writing midi data in.
Well this was the best advice I gotten all year (2021) on digital orchestration. Thank you sir
Strongly agree with other comments, this is literally the missing link in representing virtual instruments as ‘real’. Great stuff. And the music vocabulary, useful too.
great video. great tips and i learned a lot. i was already using volume automation for some expression but somehow it never occurred to me to automate vibrato, etc. too.
and of course, the fact that you don't waste anyone's time cannot be understated. too many guides use too many words for too few ideas.
btw i did a double take when you switched to staccato on the fly hahaha. great stuff.
THAAAAAAANKS VLADIMIR!! Glad it was helpful!!
This was very helpful. Been looking for a good video about automation on strings for a while now, finally found one. Thank you so much!
The 4th part(Note Repetition) is the real deal! Thanks!
My thought was: This is gold. Then I noticed another comment describing this as a gold mine. And surprisingly compact for such an important video.
Wow, this video just confirmed what I have taken almost this last year to discover by myself. So big thanks for confirming my suspicion!
Super helpful! Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Incredible how much useful information is packed into this one video!
Fantastic video Marc, as always!
Superb. A belated thank you.
You almost teached me everything I want to know about Strings modulation by this video man, Thank you very much and looking forwarding your new videos!
Oh my!!!! Finally.................fully explained. Thank you so very much. You are awesome Marc. 🙏🏾🌞
I have been looking for a video like this for almost a year. I have been enjoying your course very much. Thank you for posting this! Having difficulty with Novation Launch Control as faders in Logic ProX but hoping I can set them up with older Mac operating system to the correct CC's. THANK YOU!
Your videos is Gold!👏❤
This is by far the best video I’ve seen on this technique. Thank you!!!
Fantastic tutorial, you are a great tutor!!
HOW do we map our faders to handle both MIDI expression & channels?
Huge help. With just the Logic Studio strings. Thank you
You are such a good man and so generous.
Klasse Beitrag.
Yes, yes. What a help you give me. Thank you. Obrigado from Brasil.
VERY USEFUL VIDEO! THANKS THAT YOU EXIST!!
This is very useful thank you
Just subbed today. Saw your ad on YT and was impressed. Looking forward to digging into your videos. Cheers.
Tack!
Awesome trick!
So good tips! Bring life to the orchestra, beautifull!
Thanks!
Awesome, Marc ! helpful tools
Great video. Your production values are getting better and better.
Hi Marc, I'm a composer focused in film scoring and I love your explanation here, it made me realize I've been trying to bring realism out of virtual instruments in the wrong way. I was curious if I could ask your recommendation for a control surface to use the latch function with automation, or if there are any pros or cons in your experience between different models and brands. I primarily use Logic Pro and Native Instruments for context. Thank you for any advice you can share, I hope to work alongside you one day!
Hey Marc great video, thanks for all the help! I just have a (probably stupid) question :) Can I achieve the same result with the 2 knobs on my Native Instruments keyboard? It looks like you're using a totally separate device. Thanks man 👍
Great info thanks as always fast and to the point
Really great work, brother. Many thanks.
Awesome vid ... Whats yr kontakt library ..it sounds so good
Amazing video. I was looking for something like this for a long time.
Glad you liked it!! :D
4:10 Marc, what libraries are you referring to? List a couple/video demonstrations.
ideally, how many faders are needed to control orchestral instruments? Thank you!
This is the secrets I hd been looking for! That being said, I just got myself a Komplete Kontrol S49 keyboard and Cubase Pro and I simply can't figure out how to assign modulation/expression to the knobs of my keyboard... Ideally I'd love to assign the modulation to the wheel (Which I think is CC1 by default...) but I am getting completely lost and confused! Please HELP! 😅
0:12 as someone who's played Among Us I was fully expecting this to do a chromatic glissando downwards
One word : EXCELLENT !
What are some of your music that I can listen to? Preferably using these techniques
Thank you for these tips!! I need to get me an additional midi cc controller....I only have a midi controller keyboard and it doesn't seem enough. If you don't mind me asking, what gear are you using in this video?
Thank you Marc, fantastic video
This is gold
Super! Thnx! But please, Marc, explain little bit slower.
Whoowa i never heard of breath control up till now , thanks i've been searching a to do something like this.... can you please tell me what controller are you using? i m in a desperate need of one ! :) thanks
So you know how to map those parameters on my midi controller?
Great tips!
Thank you very much for the content, I would like to ask if this line that represents the dynamics, could be inserted after the execution of the song, why do I ask, there are pieces of music that require greater attention or perhaps need both hands, and the reaper program would have this function . thank you very much
Thanks for this video! I agree 100% with Nico
Excellent video. Great tips.
Great tips! Thank you! But I am having problem; when I look at dynamics (modulation) section in Key Editor there is always a part (just in the beginning) with missing modulation signals (dynamic knob of midi controller falls to zero when I restart track to listen). Then I draw it manually with the drawing tool. It is frustrating. Any solution?
Дякую 🙏
I am a little confused. Specifically about the LOTR dynamics:
So Modulation, is probably velocity, but what is expression? Is it a specific setting you manipulate with your mod wheel for the plugin you are using or is it something else?
I don't completely understand how I can produce similar effects in my setup and what I am actually changing in my sound. Do I need a specific library like lets say KONTAKT 14?
Great tips Marc!
Amzing video, thank you so much !
thank you for the great tutorial
This is insane
This is great! I need to do this more
that sounds great, could you please share what is this piece of equipment you are using called? thnx
very informative
Man, thank you
How do you guys do your expressions with kontakt instruments? I have a oriental strings library, which has “heart of violins” expression (Crescendo Decrescendo). Linking Midi cc11 to the mod wheel is suppose to do the job, but the way fl studio is, it doesn’t work as it should. When i link the cc11 it just does the regular dynamics like how it would be with orchestral libraries. Even the image line employees from the forum admitted that what im trying to do isnt so simple & even if i get a expression pedal it wont work. They say its possible with patcher but thats another headache of its own.
Should I use Expression or Volume ?
Great, as always !!!!
Awesome video. To the point and well explaned.
Marc, thanks!) great job. What midi controller are you using? Can’t recognise it((( thanks again
Good and clear video - not all I need is a good midi-control surface for Logic X - thanks
I have been searching for this also, started with the Akai midi mix; faders too short, got the Novation launch control; does not play well with logic, finally I think I found the answer, Presonus faderport 8; faders 100mm., once I found out from presonus how to get logic to recognize the cc's in midi mode (not clear in documentation or anywhere on line, and the customer support is not), finally it is doing what I want, and I can achieve the control I need. More than I wanted to spend, but you can also use it as a DAW controller and hopefully it will be helpful for mixing also.
감사합니다. 엄청난 도움이 되는 내용이에요
So cool. thank you.
thanx for sharing .. how did you record the modulation and expression without using automation
sorry I dont get it....what dynamic or expression modulation ??? it's automatization of the volume?? (or even better what I have to automate in Logic Pro x to obtein this effect??)
Damn dude. I see you working that... Is that a uc33e? I was gonna sell my nanoKontrol. But no way!
🤣🙏❤️
soooo good. Thank you!
what controller is that? i have cinematic studio strings, but my nord grand keyboard doesn't have any expression control of any kind. can you recommend a usb controller for recording midi dynamics?
Really great tips on this video!!
Can someone recomend me a string library? I prefer action intense cinematics. The libraries I have some to have a lot less control.
Excellent video Marc!
Thanks Felipe!!
Well done job, sir, thanks!
New to music prod here. What's that gadget you're using for dynamics called? Thanks!
Hey Marc, what 's that gear you use for this? I'd like to get something similar. Thanks :)
What's the name of the device you are using for modulation control?