When charlie talks about the grief afterward like legit that was exactly how i felt after that show ended. I watched the show live started it as a kid and finished it as a young adult. This show will always be one of my favorites of all time.
same. I remember finishing the last episode and just sitting there just in complete silence like, now what do I do. Been with those characters for seven years and then they were just gone. Never felt that way about any other show before.
@@Justb99xboxI was the same, I’ve watched it through about 3-4 times and I feel so empty every time I finish it. It’s one of those series where you become so invested in the characters and it feels so real. I think it will always be my favourite series.
SOA final season 7 wrapped up many yrs ago.. and yet here are still talking abt it and fans supporting the cast crew and show in 2022-2023. Bring it back!!
These three (and so many other Sons cast members) need to seriously work together again. I love how Ryan is a little bit of each character he has played.
Mayans MC was good up thru season 3. They've really rushed season 4 and 5. Almost like the writers lost all creativity and don't care about the storylines or the audience anymore. You can tell not having Kurt Sutter really damaged a potentially great show.
All these years later and I am STILL sad about Opie dying. Of all tv character deaths that I have seen in my lifetime, his hurt the most. I cried like I lost a loved one. SoA will forever be one of my favorite shows, that's for damn sure!
Specifically because i'm reading your comment first. I'll be the first to tell you online , I never watched the show until the third season live. When it got to the fifth season, I literally stop watching the next two episodes after watching opie died.
@@drlommis5176 Can't say I blame you. While I love the show, a big part of me also wanted to quit watching when Opie died. The show was never the same after his death. I just felt almost like a loyalty to the show, it's the only reason I ever finished it. I fully admit I was ready to tune out after Opie was killed off.
Cast and crew, writers and directors across the board of SOA were phenomenal. I put it right up there with the Sopranos. Thanks for the suspense just waiting for the next episode. Always kept me on the edge of my seat .
I’m with you the wire is hands down the best show ever. Game of thrones would be my number two. Sopranos, breaking bad, sons of anarchy are masterpieces that are on about the same level imo somewhere in the 10-15 range. All are far better than peaky blinders but peaky blinders is still very good as well
It’s insanely underrated. I think it doesn’t get the credit it deserves because a lot of people judge it as just a male fantasy/biker show. It’s so much more.
I almost feel like it is overrated. It's mostly just mindless entertainment and hot men. The writing is subpar, so it a lot of the acting (I don't think the girl who played Opie's second wife was even awake and conscious and Gemma was Peg Bundy in leather pants), and it couldn't solve a plot line to save it's life.
What a fantastic interview, I love watching all of you and i fall more and more in love with Charlie Hunnam every time i see an interview with him. Trust me i think ive watched almost every one of them at least once and quite a few twice. Much love to Charlie! ❤❤❤❤❤
I cried harder when Opie died than relatives I’ve lost ! I came out of my room balling & my husband & kids came running to see what was going on ! My husband knew I was binge watching sons of Anarchy & also knew I loved Opie & as soon as he saw me he said “ Oh No” like he knew what had happened ! I’ve never been so involved in show the way I was with sons of anarchy! I think it’s because my father was an Outlaw Biker ( my parents broke up when I was young & he was god to me ) ! So I think this show just made me understand my father better !
You can see me bottom right, in my black, white, and red bandanna. 😁 At 27:50 a question is asked about favorite bikes and Charlie says that DL rode his own bike and you hear a "Whoo!"...that was me 😅 DL winked at me when I did it. 🥴 Easily one of the best experiences of my life.
Luv those guys. I met DL before I had really started watching SOA while I was working out/boxing. His bro I worked out with was teasing me. He knew I didn't know who DL was & barely had watched the show. He was yelling "DL Shalom said she doesn't like your show". I was shhhing him & turning red saying "I didn't say that".
I have to say, this is like finding a small goldmine, 'cuz as much as I loved the show and the ENTIRE cast...these 3 guys, Hap', Jackie-Boy and Op'...were my favorite characters, with Tig and Chibs following close behind. But yea, these 3 guys, were MY GUYS.
For me it's jax happy and chibs I loved Opie but sometimes he wasnt 100 percent focused on the task. Didn't go through w plans. and was whiney at times. Hap and chibs had jaxes back no matter what. Obviously he loved Opie more because that was his brother but I got a friend I grew up with like that I love him more than anyone but when shit hits the fan. He will always hide behind Me lol in a nonchalant way
I watched it twice the first in 2014...I had to wait for it to be finished because of the year long wait. It was awesome watching 7 seasons at once and not going to lie when Gemma killed Tara I was Shock. I wanted my mom to watch it because she was actually a really close friend with a Motorcycle Club and worked as there engraver in a trophy store. She is the only trusted person in the country to keep the logo private. To this day she hasn't shown me. Then I finally got her to watch it and she was obsessed. When someone ratted she would make the evil eye....lol I knew she would like it. I did hear that they might be coming back. That would be awesome! Happy Holidays Christine :)
They should bring it back and touch on the subject of their prison time after season 3. Must have been a couple of years since Abel was older in season 4. Also, Jacks got stabbed in jail. Seems like a lot could have gone on in their time in prison
my first thought was also, that Charlie Hunnam is totally Edward Kenway from AC: Blackflag. And he's British too. perfect for the role if there ever was a movie
Always the same questions... I'm getting tired for them, what a waste of their time. I wanna hear Charlie about his own view on Jax/Tara teenage relationship, how he pictures it and how he thinks it all started as they have such opposed personnalities. And how it was with Gemma back then... In fact, it'd be nice to hear him about his relationship with Gemma, so twisted and how he played it knowing Katey's Kurt wife also, so he just can't mess it...
I get it…. But here’s some top secret information….. ( You can go to one of these events and ask whatever questions You want.) keep that on the hush hush tho.
In another reality (in which showrunner and screenwriters would do justice to source material, and would write great script), Charlie would be the one to play Geralt of Rivia - and this would be great adaptation of "The Witcher"...
Close your eyes when Happy's actor is telling a story, then go listen to Mick Goley from WWE tell a story with your eyes closed again. It'll sound like the same exact person
Hope you all realize never in the history of movies or tv shows have reboots, prequels or sequels ever been better or as good as the original source material. Let the masterpiece be stop asking for faaaar less superior works of art
That is insane that Charlie just said that I felt the exact same way back while the show was going on there were two separate halves there was the Jacks before Opie died who actually gave a s*** and the Jacks after Opie died who didn't care anymore this is just my opinion Lots May disagree but I believe the first four seasons and half of the 5th season where the best parts of Sons of Anarchy I was not as big of a fan of the 6th and 7th season I still loved it but if I go back and pop in a Blu-ray it probably won't be the 6th or 7th season
If they ever do a Sons of Anarchy prequel, Percy Hines White would make a great teenage Jax and Jenna Ortega would make a great teenage Tara. Although, Jenna is kind of short.
SOA is the best cast show of tv history. Every time we watch we end up saying " i love so and so" From the main characters to the small roles Opie was my favorite Unser was so underrated. "Can you at least PRETEND im a damn cop when you talk to me"
why are they applauding chuck zito he was part of hells angels and maybe did some bad shit...i wouldnt of even had him on the show...ieven just read he got into trouble for saying if he had a girlfreind that cheated he would probably would have done same thing that christy mack happened to her from psycho ex mma fighter...i cant beleive ther friends with that guy
DL was a real MC biker too! And Charlie was all over MM since he was featured in the finale season; the guy's a satanist who allegedly beat up his girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood... Meanwhile, Sutter give us moral lectures on guns and politics as if the whole Hollywood wasn't a corrupted place full of p*d*s! Don't try to find any sense, just know that the entertainment industry is kinda a big cesspool...
@Claudia D. I do like the guys from the show...its just people knew about Chuck Zito before...but when they filmed that show...mm stuff wasn't in spotlight yet
I cried 😢 Multiple times throughout SOA I was balling at the end! I was so depressed for months! I reproduce Jax's Kutte! Took me 3 weeks to sew it all together! I had all the patches custom made! I wear that Kutte every day since the first time I seen the last episode of Son's to the end! At 1st I wasn't going to wear it, then I seen the last episode and that went out the window I've made another one since then and all I get is complements! How much people loved that show! It took me a while to get over the ending! I didn't want it to end! I actually just had to rewatch it again! I do at least every 3 month I torture myself because I can't let it go! Some people don't get how much it moved me in a way nothing has ever come close to this! I've spent 600+dollars on the Kuttes! About 300+each but it's well worth it! 💯% everything I own is SOA! And I mean everything!! 😱 Yeah I might be obsessed a bit! 😂 But I love them all!
I'm watching it for the first time now and the only time i've felt actually sad was when Jax found Tara dead. Seasons 4, 5 and 6 have been such unrelenting bloodbaths full of betrayal and violence i find it difficult to relate to any of these animals. I simply cannot wait till Gemma eats a bullet and Jax needs one too. (i know how it ends)
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When charlie talks about the grief afterward like legit that was exactly how i felt after that show ended. I watched the show live started it as a kid and finished it as a young adult. This show will always be one of my favorites of all time.
same. I remember finishing the last episode and just sitting there just in complete silence like, now what do I do. Been with those characters for seven years and then they were just gone. Never felt that way about any other show before.
@@Justb99xboxI was the same, I’ve watched it through about 3-4 times and I feel so empty every time I finish it. It’s one of those series where you become so invested in the characters and it feels so real.
I think it will always be my favourite series.
Exactly the way I felt I go back and watch episodes because I always feel my self wanting more. My all time favorite series 🙌
Somehow glad to see the toothpick wasn't just Happy thing but David Labrava thing
SOA final season 7 wrapped up many yrs ago.. and yet here are still talking abt it and fans supporting the cast crew and show in 2022-2023. Bring it back!!
These three (and so many other Sons cast members) need to seriously work together again.
I love how Ryan is a little bit of each character he has played.
I totally cried during the last episode of Sons. Was so happy to have the Mayans to watch next. Love both casts.
Mayans MC was good up thru season 3. They've really rushed season 4 and 5. Almost like the writers lost all creativity and don't care about the storylines or the audience anymore. You can tell not having Kurt Sutter really damaged a potentially great show.
Super rushed
I’m dying for more Sons or The First 9 prequel
Omg me too
Same here
Same
There's a prequel in works
Same!
Just started rewatching this show again, definitely my favorite
Me too for like the 3rd time lol.
Same it’s my second time watching it
All these years later and I am STILL sad about Opie dying. Of all tv character deaths that I have seen in my lifetime, his hurt the most. I cried like I lost a loved one. SoA will forever be one of my favorite shows, that's for damn sure!
Specifically because i'm reading your comment first. I'll be the first to tell you online , I never watched the show until the third season live. When it got to the fifth season, I literally stop watching the next two episodes after watching opie died.
@@drlommis5176 Can't say I blame you. While I love the show, a big part of me also wanted to quit watching when Opie died. The show was never the same after his death. I just felt almost like a loyalty to the show, it's the only reason I ever finished it. I fully admit I was ready to tune out after Opie was killed off.
@@kornfreak78 I love opie but I was so committed to Jax’s story I couldn’t stop watching
I second that! 😱
Oh me to I hated it when Opie died
Charlie Hunnam And Sons Of Anarchy ❤ 🏍
Cast and crew, writers and directors across the board of SOA were phenomenal. I put it right up there with the Sopranos. Thanks for the suspense just waiting for the next episode. Always kept me on the edge of my seat .
same
Stop it. Breaking Bad , The Wire , The Sopranos and even most of GOT are in a league of their own. SOA is there with Peaky Blinders.
I’m with you the wire is hands down the best show ever. Game of thrones would be my number two. Sopranos, breaking bad, sons of anarchy are masterpieces that are on about the same level imo somewhere in the 10-15 range. All are far better than peaky blinders but peaky blinders is still very good as well
Thank you for uploading this! Perfectly still camera and perfect quality! Really enjoyed it! Thanks!
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You're very welcome!
I love these guys! True brotherhood!
Sons was so amazing! People love it; but I still feel it is underrated!
It’s insanely underrated. I think it doesn’t get the credit it deserves because a lot of people judge it as just a male fantasy/biker show. It’s so much more.
Underrated..Hell No 😂
Me and my hubby have watched it 3X already and still ain't tired of it. I just named my new kitten jax!😊
I almost feel like it is overrated. It's mostly just mindless entertainment and hot men. The writing is subpar, so it a lot of the acting (I don't think the girl who played Opie's second wife was even awake and conscious and Gemma was Peg Bundy in leather pants), and it couldn't solve a plot line to save it's life.
@@jennpenn5naw sons of anarchy is incredible one of the best shows ever
Man I did NOT know Ryan voices Thor in GOW:R before this. I never realized. My favorite character from both the game and the show. This makes me happy
There was so much awesomeness in this!! Thanks for sharing.
Hi dear beautiful lady do you really love 💞💞💕💕🌷 my son Charlie and want to get in touch with him in person?
Love, love, love SOA!!!! PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!! ❤
You can watch Mayans!
What a fantastic interview, I love watching all of you and i fall more and more in love with Charlie Hunnam every time i see an interview with him. Trust me i think ive watched almost every one of them at least once and quite a few twice. Much love to Charlie! ❤❤❤❤❤
Are you on my private fan community? If “NO” i’d love to invite you to join ❤❤
Are you on my private fan community? If “NO” i’d love to invite you to join ❤❤
@@Charliehunnam-w7n no I'm not
@@MelissaWilliams-hi8lq Do you mind joining us...?
Charlie looks the same as in SOA.
KS has always been very vocal that killing Opie is his biggest regret and worse mistake during the entire SOA series. All fans second that!
Are you on my private fan community? If “NO” i’d love to invite you to join ❤❤
I still can’t watch it all the way through. Heartbreaking
I cried harder when Opie died than relatives I’ve lost ! I came out of my room balling & my husband & kids came running to see what was going on ! My husband knew I was binge watching sons of Anarchy & also knew I loved Opie & as soon as he saw me he said “ Oh No” like he knew what had happened ! I’ve never been so involved in show the way I was with sons of anarchy! I think it’s because my father was an Outlaw Biker ( my parents broke up when I was young & he was god to me ) ! So I think this show just made me understand my father better !
Hi dear beautiful lady do you really love 💞💞💕💕🌷 my son Charlie and want to get in touch with him in person?
Man i aleays appreciate a actor that has strong english accent and play the role without the said accent
You can see me bottom right, in my black, white, and red bandanna. 😁
At 27:50 a question is asked about favorite bikes and Charlie says that DL rode his own bike and you hear a "Whoo!"...that was me 😅 DL winked at me when I did it. 🥴
Easily one of the best experiences of my life.
I’m surprised no body brought up Ryan’s time filming remember the titans I feel like seem to forget he was on that film
I don't think most SOA fans know that he was Gerry Bertier. most newer fans anyway
Is it just me, or is Ryan starting to look like Tommy Flanery...lol?
Favorite show ever. 👍
haha he is becoming more wise brother
Thanks random guy, now every time i see Charlie i will think of Edward Kenway
Man too great ! Glad to have met them
They all look like they just stepped off the set of Sons! Damn i miss that show
Thats so adorable that some kid came in just for charlie to ask him about pacific rim lol
Man Charlie seems like such a likable guy
For the fact that jax, aka, Charlie hanum said you're a psychopath had me dying, but respect Opie to save the day my fav
Other than Chibs, Jax, and Opie; Happy was my favorite character. The craziest dude in a group of crazy dudes.
Luv those guys. I met DL before I had really started watching SOA while I was working out/boxing. His bro I worked out with was teasing me. He knew I didn't know who DL was & barely had watched the show. He was yelling "DL Shalom said she doesn't like your show". I was shhhing him & turning red saying "I didn't say that".
Love Sons Of Anarchy and eagerly await Jax's return❤❤❤
I wish they could bring back a sequel to son's of Anarchy would be awesome 👍😎 excellent cast awesome acting
Hi dear beautiful lady do you really love 💞💞💕💕🌷 my son Charlie and want to get in touch with him in person?
I have to say, this is like finding a small goldmine, 'cuz as much as I loved the show and the ENTIRE cast...these 3 guys, Hap', Jackie-Boy and Op'...were my favorite characters, with Tig and Chibs following close behind. But yea, these 3 guys, were MY GUYS.
Happy? Really?
For me it's jax happy and chibs I loved Opie but sometimes he wasnt 100 percent focused on the task. Didn't go through w plans. and was whiney at times. Hap and chibs had jaxes back no matter what. Obviously he loved Opie more because that was his brother but I got a friend I grew up with like that I love him more than anyone but when shit hits the fan. He will always hide behind Me lol in a nonchalant way
I watched it twice the first in 2014...I had to wait for it to be finished because of the year long wait. It was awesome watching 7 seasons at once and not going to lie when Gemma killed Tara I was Shock. I wanted my mom to watch it because she was actually a really close friend with a Motorcycle Club and worked as there engraver in a trophy store. She is the only trusted person in the country to keep the logo private. To this day she hasn't shown me. Then I finally got her to watch it and she was obsessed. When someone ratted she would make the evil eye....lol I knew she would like it. I did hear that they might be coming back. That would be awesome! Happy Holidays Christine :)
SOAs show Rocked❤
They should bring it back and touch on the subject of their prison time after season 3. Must have been a couple of years since Abel was older in season 4. Also, Jacks got stabbed in jail. Seems like a lot could have gone on in their time in prison
that question was the first thing that came to my mind when I played Assassins creed Black flag
my first thought was also, that Charlie Hunnam is totally Edward Kenway from AC: Blackflag. And he's British too. perfect for the role if there ever was a movie
Imagine, you've starred in a show like this for years, and now you're on a panel. You have so much to talk about, you have to make 1,000 panels
my bro jax still looks the same 😂
5:21 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about King Arthur. And if he isn’t, I don’t really care cause all I can think about is King Arthur as a pirate now.
So good.!!!!!!
Always the same questions... I'm getting tired for them, what a waste of their time. I wanna hear Charlie about his own view on Jax/Tara teenage relationship, how he pictures it and how he thinks it all started as they have such opposed personnalities. And how it was with Gemma back then... In fact, it'd be nice to hear him about his relationship with Gemma, so twisted and how he played it knowing Katey's Kurt wife also, so he just can't mess it...
I get it…. But here’s some top secret information….. ( You can go to one of these events and ask whatever questions You want.) keep that on the hush hush tho.
Would love to read the essay that Ryan wrote.
Viking movie I could see Charlie in ❤
Ryan went on to be in The Outsiders. I wanted his character to remove his shirt, revealing a back piece of the SOA reaper.
Sons of Anarchy is one of my favorite shows. I miss it.
Hi dear beautiful lady do you really love 💞💞💕💕🌷 my son Charlie and want to get in touch with him in person?
Could someone please tell me how to know when the actors will have another meeting or how to find out news like this 😭.
The sword story Charlie is referring to is on RUclips. Make sure you have tissues
Is anybody else like Hap is Happy in real life? 😂😅
Those guys are the best! I love that show so fucking much I felt like they were a big part of my life at that time, I wanna cry just talking about it
Exactly check out my comment!
Nostalgia at its finest..
I had no fucking idea Jax waa british😂😂😂
It feels like a lot of these people were just asking slightly different variations of the same questions.
In the prequel jax goes nomad hence all the pirate talk surely right?? Im so hyped
Bro I never seen it but is that “left, side… STRONG SIDE”
Yes
I love SOA
Damn Opie looks rough, he hasn't aged well compared to the other 2🤣
The guy who said charlie looked like Edward kenwsy caught me off guard because me and my friend talk about that all the time
So wierd seeing these guys age. Wheres the time goinf
Opie you rock
In another reality (in which showrunner and screenwriters would do justice to source material, and would write great script), Charlie would be the one to play Geralt of Rivia - and this would be great adaptation of "The Witcher"...
Close your eyes when Happy's actor is telling a story, then go listen to Mick Goley from WWE tell a story with your eyes closed again. It'll sound like the same exact person
Soa movie
Hurst looks like a gigantic lawn gnome
Hope you all realize never in the history of movies or tv shows have reboots, prequels or sequels ever been better or as good as the original source material. Let the masterpiece be stop asking for faaaar less superior works of art
That is insane that Charlie just said that I felt the exact same way back while the show was going on there were two separate halves there was the Jacks before Opie died who actually gave a s*** and the Jacks after Opie died who didn't care anymore this is just my opinion Lots May disagree but I believe the first four seasons and half of the 5th season where the best parts of Sons of Anarchy I was not as big of a fan of the 6th and 7th season I still loved it but if I go back and pop in a Blu-ray it probably won't be the 6th or 7th season
i cant believe they just gave up on the first 9 show.
Ryan chewing gum with an open mouth is giving me anxiety
Just a TV show , but It was pretty messed up with opie and Donna 🕶
Hi dear beautiful lady do you really love 💞💞💕💕🌷 my son Charlie and want to get in touch with him in person?
If they ever do a Sons of Anarchy prequel, Percy Hines White would make a great teenage Jax and Jenna Ortega would make a great teenage Tara. Although, Jenna is kind of short.
I feel like Jenna also isn’t as pale as Tara
@@Slickity_sloth really? Tara doesn't look that white to me. In fact Tara looks a little bit Hispanic.
Tara is white and Jenna Ortega is Hispanic facial features are totally different. Percy Hynes is a good fit for Jax.
@@anthonycampos8057 I might have to rewatch but from what I remember Tara was pretty pale
@@petetrujillo4125 Jenna does look a young Tara.
The guy on the left is Beta from the Walking Dead
👑🇺🇲 sons of anarchy 🇺🇲👑
Does he end up killing him ????
triple threat 😍 !!!!!!!! Ryan be attach to beanies 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ ….
Its a brotherhood.
ngl i always thought he was edward kenway lmao
Charlie would make the perfect Edward kenway!
Why Opie look old af
Imagine.... and hear me out OK.... the cast of SOA in a Pirates of the Caribbean movie....
Opie look so old in this interview 😭
All three of these characters are now officially dead in their universe
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Charlie is still fine🤤🤤
Charlie you are so beautiful my love mary from Massachusetts ❤
Why does everyone like opie so much, he whined the whole time and was wishy washy about the sons and dated a porn star.
I have a question for anybody could you be married to a pornstar and could you be in a club that killed your loved
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SOA is the best cast show of tv history. Every time we watch we end up saying " i love so and so"
From the main characters to the small roles
Opie was my favorite
Unser was so underrated. "Can you at least PRETEND im a damn cop when you talk to me"
why are they applauding chuck zito he was part of hells angels and maybe did some bad shit...i wouldnt of even had him on the show...ieven just read he got into trouble for saying if he had a girlfreind that cheated he would probably would have done same thing that christy mack happened to her from psycho ex mma fighter...i cant beleive ther friends with that guy
DL was a real MC biker too! And Charlie was all over MM since he was featured in the finale season; the guy's a satanist who allegedly beat up his girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood... Meanwhile, Sutter give us moral lectures on guns and politics as if the whole Hollywood wasn't a corrupted place full of p*d*s! Don't try to find any sense, just know that the entertainment industry is kinda a big cesspool...
@Claudia D. I do like the guys from the show...its just people knew about Chuck Zito before...but when they filmed that show...mm stuff wasn't in spotlight yet
Did Chuck hurt your feelings? Grow up
@@JoesAutoElectric he has bad history and things he said...
@@clarkkenttheman so what? You an angel buddy? Grow up
They should make a all female daughters of Anarchy prequel
No
It should be the first nine, or jackson's sons
They should be starting another season ignoring Jax' suicide.
Happy talks exactly like Flea from RHCP 😆
Those boys looked ripped as hell
I cried 😢 Multiple times throughout SOA I was balling at the end! I was so depressed for months! I reproduce Jax's Kutte! Took me 3 weeks to sew it all together! I had all the patches custom made! I wear that Kutte every day since the first time I seen the last episode of Son's to the end! At 1st I wasn't going to wear it, then I seen the last episode and that went out the window I've made another one since then and all I get is complements! How much people loved that show! It took me a while to get over the ending! I didn't want it to end! I actually just had to rewatch it again! I do at least every 3 month I torture myself because I can't let it go! Some people don't get how much it moved me in a way nothing has ever come close to this! I've spent 600+dollars on the Kuttes! About 300+each but it's well worth it! 💯% everything I own is SOA! And I mean everything!! 😱 Yeah I might be obsessed a bit! 😂 But I love them all!
Very cool
I'm watching it for the first time now and the only time i've felt actually sad was when Jax found Tara dead. Seasons 4, 5 and 6 have been such unrelenting bloodbaths full of betrayal and violence i find it difficult to relate to any of these animals. I simply cannot wait till Gemma eats a bullet and Jax needs one too. (i know how it ends)
Charlie ☺