Maqam vs Tajweed: Autotune and Making My Voice Better for Quran
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2022
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The interviewer must stop interrupting the speaker from finishing making his important points... A bit annoying
Yes. It's ok if you're discussing among friends in private but disruptive if you're making an instructional video
For Maqamat check out - Sheik Ibrahim Bakeer. Respect to Quran Revolution for remaining respectful and neutral. End of the day we all should recite more. Thank you for your work brother, May Allah swt accept it from you.
We did a follow-up to this that you would appreciate as well: ruclips.net/video/1W4aNnHC_vE/видео.html
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Maqam is more cultural whereas Tajweed is necessary means to recite Quran to devote ourselves to Allah.
Maqam is haram
@@haybz_A
"sure"
Look at what sheikh Saleh fawzan mentions
@haybz_ A1738
I don't think you understand what he said.🤣
What did he says then help understand? thank you
Love your energy ustadh!
Thanks brother, this gave me a good insight.
This is what I'm looking forward to eagerly. Thanks for making a video on this topic.
AssalamuAlaikum,
JazakAllah for the detailed discussion on maqamat. This is a very interesting topic for me, as I have started looking into it and learning about maqams in the past year or two.
I'm 38 years old and I completed my Hifz-ul-Qur'an at age 13 Alhamdulillah, and I have the ability to mimic a lot of reciters so in that sense I'm not new to maqams, as each and every famous Qari recites in a specific maqam. I just didn't know that there is a science behind it, and that there are specific flavors/tones.
I understand that there are limitations to how one should recite, governed by the Tajweed. I recently watched a detailed interview of a famous Imam and reciter and teacher and a great proponent of the maqamat science. He argued that it is in the Hadith that one should beautify their voice when reciting. But he also mentioned that there is a correct way to do it and a haraam and forbidden way. The difference of opinion on this matter among scholars stems from this misuse of maqamat in Quranic recitations.
He very clearly demonstrated that if one fulfils the rules of tajweed, and lets the words of the glorious Quran dictate the tone/maqam based on the meaning of different passages then it is recommended that one use Maqam, as that would increase the Khushoo. But he also said that, if one focuses on the maqam so much that they are either breaking the rules, and just focused on the tone, regardless of what the ayah means then it is forbidden. Breaking the rules could be: wrongful prolonging/shortening of words, variations, flutters on words where not required, like Shk Wisam mentioned Muqatta'aat, and usage of tones not famous for Quran and used in songs, which would take the listeners mind away from the text.
So just random maqam selection should be avoided, for instance one reciting verses about punishment, and Allah's azaab and hell fire and using a happy maqam.
He also said, that each and everyone of us recites in a maqam, whether we know it or not, and I'm sure Sheikh Wisam has developed a natural maqam as well, influenced by his background and where he's been. Like the he mentioned the Egyptian flavor in his Qir'at, and I'm sure a maqam specialist can even categorize that in one of the maqams.
So, I've started believing that, using maqams, is good if one understands the meanings of the Quran, and then uses either a sad or happy or other matching tone based on the mood, ceremony and time of recitation to increase the khushoo and beautify the recitation even more.
PS: I think I know which Qari brother Bilal is talking about when he did the high-pitched raising of voice. That person actually employs yodling techniques while reciting, which is quite forbidden and he also uses maqams of songs which I'm not a big fan of.
JazakAllah Wa Ahsan ul Jaza
Please don’t do maqamat..
@@shan8071 Could you elaborate why you say that?
@@bilalmateen1983 because it can lead u astray if ur tajweed isn't perfect
@@mmcweight8827 Don't know if this is why the previous commenter said don't do maqamat.
And, of course, I agree with you as I've said this in my long comment above. Maqamat which I generally take for beautifying your qira'at is good, but first and foremost is proper tajweed. Reading Quran with tajweed is compulsory on each and every Muslim. Maqamat are not compulsory because it's just not possible for everyone. Not everyone is blessed with a beautiful voice.
@@bilalmateen1983 Also, maqamat is haram if you break the rules of tajweed which many people do when reciting with maqamat. They claim they are reading with Tajweed, but they overstretch and do other mistakes for the sake of the maqam which is haram
Mashallah, thank you so much for discussing this.
That was a good breakdown & I agree with what youre saying. It has bothered me for years that people recite with the same intonation & emotion no matter what theme is being discussed. This happens when somebody sticks to one maqam all of the way through the recitation. I still agree with what you said but to be fair some people who know what the entended emotions behind the maqaamat are switch them accordingly. A issue i have with that is as you said they are structured modes to fit a genre but real emotion is not expressed like that....I like your point to find your own voice while sticking to the rules of tajweed. Ahsana Allahu ilaykum
beautiful
Nice video. I also support the thesis where tejweed is more important than the melody, and that is somehow logical. But still, it is possible, with good practice and listening, to recite in maqam following tejweed. That is why Sheikh Halil el Husary r.a. had mostly recited in murottal, because mujawad is fully focused on melody. While in murottal focus is in tejweed, but still he applied maqams. Anyway, it's a very interesting and IMPORTANT topic.
Brother what you said is true. I started reciting in maqamaat, but now I just like to recite in my own tone. Maqamaat gave my voice strength and trained my vocals. The reason why I no longer need maqamaat is, initially they distracted my attention from verses. But now, I've got the flavour of maqamaat in my voice without paying attention on tone. And I can now focus on verses easily, alhamdulillah. I listen to many reciters and, I like to copy them like Sheikh Nasir al Qatami.
So I would say people should train there voice via maqamaat, but should not focus on them. The main focus should be word of allah.
To make your voice better I would suggest learning all maqamat and you will become a amazing reciter. Look at Mishari-Rashid alafsy he knows all the maqamat and that makes him so good
@@alizabad5539 yeah
I know nahawand, hijaz, ajam, kurd and saba
But Bayat, rast and sikah are not my favourite. 😊
Can you tell me how can I learn maqamat just started improving my recitation
What I am worried about learning about or practicing maqam is that I could make mistake in applying mad. But I love listening beatiful and melodious recitation of some Syeikhs. Thanks for sharing this topic.
Let's listen Shaykh, pls don't interrupt him dude
Really enjoy your insights! I do feel frustrated at how often you are interrupted by your colleague, though. Brother, Please give Wisam the opportunity to finish sentences or thoughts before being interrupted :)
Totally agree. I couldn't finish listening to the video, found the interruptions by the other brother annoying and unnecessary.
Assalaam o Alykum this so awesome ahki 🕋📿🕋📿
JazakAllah
السلام عليكم
جزاكم الله خيرا
Is there recordings of his recitation?
Well said.
Subhan Allah
thnks
Everyone will hit a maqam when reciting whether intentional or not, and maybe you would go from one maqam to another. This is my opinion, but I believe there is nothing wrong if you prefer to recite in a specific maqam or listen to a specific maqam as long as you follow the Tajweed and don't lose focus from the recitation and the meaning behind them by trying to achieve specific notes.
Before being religious, I did study music and it took me years to learn. For some people, it takes years to learn the musical notes, keys, and music scales (maqams), it is best to spend these years for learning tajweed, the Quran, the meaning behind the Surahs and Ayat, and Islam instead of wasting on studying music.
As for autotune, I personally cannot handle listening to anyone reciting or singing in autotune. Please don't use autotune while reciting. Reciting the Quran should be natural to you and your voice, everyone sounds different.
There is no "I believe this or that".. pls listen to what the Shiekh has said.
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Selamu alejkum,
I got a question:
Wisam mentioned that maqamat were pre islamic - but what about tajweed rules? Did the arabs before the revelation of the quran used tejweed to recite poems for example?
Thanks
I would love to hear the answer to this from an Islamic historian.
Personally, I think they did not fully follow the tajweed, as that is what makes the Quran recitation unique.
If one would listen to the poems and maqaams from that time there might be some similarities with tajweed rules as the language is Arabic, but that is not because of tajweed rules but because their pronunciation of some words are very clear and 'Arab-like', for instance non-Arab people sometimes make jokes about hearing Arab people talk and thinking it was Quran.
Similarly, you might think every Arab recites the Quran perfectly, but it seems like that because they pronounce some words very clearly, like Haa - 7 and A'a - 3, but I've noticed some make lots of tajweed mistakes if they have not learned the rules.
So the tajweed is what separates from the maqams of the time, and the text (Allah's words) is what separates from the poetry of that time. And reportedly, the Arabs were really good at poetry, and even then, they were not able to produce a single verse like the Quran.
And they didn't even claim that Prophet Muhammad PBUH was reading poetry. They were mesmerized by what he recited in front of them. So, I feel firstly, it was because they were the words of Allah, and secondly the Prophet PBUH must also be reciting it with tajweed (as I cannot imagine him reciting it without it) and further differentiating from the poetic maqamat of the time.
Selam alehkum Bilal,
What you are refering to is modern arabic, which is anyway different from classic/quranic arabic. So this comparsion can't be realy applied.
Second: The science of tajweed was developed much later. So that means that the people in the time of the prophet s.a.s already applied tajweed without thinking to much about it - which speaks for that, that to some degree tajweed was already known in the time before the revelation or in the begin of it.
@@husohuso6361 Walaikum Assalam, hmmm it's a good point that you make. Tajweed with all its defined rules and science was defined much later.
Could it be that it a whole science was developed to make it easier to teach and learn, especially for non-Arabs or to standardize recitation.
Also, do you think people had full or very similar Tajweed pronunciation of Arabic poetry prior to Quran being revealed?
My inferior knowledge and thoughts on this is that Jibreel PBUH taught the Prophet, which must've included reciting with Tajweed.
Jibreel brought revelations to the Prophet PBUH who then recited it to the Sahabah, who memorized and wrote it down right? So, for sure the Prophet recited with Tajweed. Did Jibreel himself taught the correct recitation to our beloved Prophet PBUH?
Or were the Arabs already following Tajweed rules before that. I would say it was with the revelation, as the Tajweed although became a proper science later its only associated with Quranic Arabic and not Arabic in general.
I agree, tajweed science was developed to preserve and also to make it easier espacially for non-arabs (but nowadays also for arabs). That's also what my teachers told me.
Regarding the recitation from Jibril as to Muhamed sas, I have no doubt that it was allready with tajweed.
Yeah, it would be great to get these questions answered. Maybe in a new video? @Quran Revolution
No, Tajweed is specifically taught by Jibreel ﷺ to the Prophet ﷺ.
Masha Allah... How can I be in control of my voice???
consider this:
ruclips.net/video/S2_opXCYz4Q/видео.html
Recite like Sh. AYMAN SOWAID. Prefect tajweed.
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In what surah is that verse which he recited?
Surah Al Anbiya: 78
@@QuranRevolution shukran sheikh
Wouldn’t it be an issue if you put music into the qur’an like maqamaat does?
As salaamualaykum sheikh....My question is " is it true that drinking cold water weakens the voice and will stop you from elongating some verses of the Quran?"
Yes
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Does maqam change the meaning of the words in the Quran?
No it doesn't.. maqamat are just tunes... no affect in the meaning
If you would change the Sounds of the letters That they sound like other ones or hold the medd too long, maybe it could be. But if the maqams are Complied correctly and including tecvid than it shouldn‘t change the meaning.
How can i find recitation like a poem . i mean without maqam . i dont thnink our prophet recited Quran as singing song. Why there is not a flat recitation.
i invite everyone to listen peaceful and heart soothing quran recitation
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All the famous Qaris recite with maqam Sudais Shuraim Mishari Dosari Minshawi Khusari.
We must beautify Quran with our voices. Hadith of Hajar says as well.
We must recite with the rules of tajwid and make it beautiful (add maqam).
If some one recites with maqam only (withou😢following tajwid) It is WRONG
Beautify it yes.. but that shouldn't be the focus.
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Those who don't understand the basic science behind our voal, tone and pitch that is designed by the Master of Universe, the only Perfect creator, Allah subhannallah wa tawalaa himself. can you refer me some hadith regarding using of Tajweed while reciting Quran and examples of beautifying the quran without tajweed? The best of speech belongs to Allah and when you are reciting that speech, shouldn't you try to beautify it while the prophet himself told us to do so? Tajweed might be the way to pronounce and recite correctly but beautifying is a as of importance. Those don't have talent always need to work hard to get better in anything, thus this maqams or styles are probably put together by top reciters derived also from different reciters from different parts of the world. There are various people that are not associated with maqamats or anything but may mimic song tune or artificial stuff beyond normal to alter sound for online views and fame, those are definitely not right. But I believe maqamat is often misrepresented. There is a difference of opinion regarding Tajweed needing for quran to make it valid as well. But there is no doubt about how importance of beautifying recitation when prophet himself said as much as he is not one of us who doesn't try to beautify recitation. Allah knows what's lies in the heart of people. But I do believe, many just makes maqamat haram without even basic understanding of it. A smartphone can also be haram if it is used wrong way but it has its positive use too.
Way too many metaphors...
I’m kind of lost at times because of the metaphors.
what don't you make clear to everyone that this is not allowed to use it for reciting. it's a singing technique that all scholars had forbidden it .
There's a follow-up video here
ruclips.net/video/1W4aNnHC_vE/видео.html
@@QuranRevolution 👍 thanks
Let the sheikh speak brother. Interuption is disrespectful
Here ruclips.net/video/oFlOaKg-0OI/видео.html
Guys , how do you tell people that O.H’s recitation is …. uhm , exaggerated ? Alot of people think it’s beautiful, but what about Tajweed ???
A lot of folks work to create an artificially processed presentation. We showcase some of that here ruclips.net/video/JOD7iNpC2C4/видео.html
Regarding exaggeration vs tajweed, more on that here ruclips.net/video/1W4aNnHC_vE/видео.html
may god bless you and 6:10 he's referring to this reciter: ruclips.net/user/areciter
What's the need of constantly referencing musicians like Adele MnM? You can get your point across without referencing musicians
Would the point driven been delivered stronger in the same amount of time if we instead referenced Abu Naṣr Muḥammad al-Farabi?
This is a poor explanation of what a maqaam is. A maqaam is essentially a set of notes placed in an order (ascending and descending) that when sung in that order create a certain emotion. Who created these notes? Allah! For those that have studied music or the physics of sound know that these notes are the creation of Allah and humans have only discovered them, not created them! When we place the Quranic text in these maqaams, its amplifies the beauty and creates an atmosphere where it takes a profound effect on the listener. Melody is like clothes on the words! without melody nothing sounds beautiful :)
What an intelligent comment.May Allah give you jannah.Many of the time this is exactly what they can't understand.Notes or melodies are things discovered not invented.They exist in the nature.We just sense them then discover them and then denote them by using some symbols.Humans don't create and obviously can't create notes.Notes are natural things.
hahaha funny man
You called maqamaat party tricks and pretty make up... you got no clue what you're talking about. It is part of Islamic culture, all your favourite reciters read in a variety of maqamaat. This was a bad response. Anyone with a sound mind knows that maqamat should not overlap tajweed. Reading with expression, tune and a beautiful voice is from the prophetic teachings and understandings. This way of reciting makes a Qari more complete.
- Through his recitation he connects people's hearts to the Quran.
- He knows what mood or which tune to read an Ayah that is suitable and benefitting to the meaning.
- He reads in a way that creates an understanding and an imagery of the meanings which differ from verses of the might of Allah, dialogue of prophets with the past nations, Paradise and bliss, hell fire and punishment, and verses of hope and mercy.
All these points help a listener and the Qari ponder the meanings and feel connected to Quran.
حديث: ما أذن الله لشيء كما أذن لنبي حسن الصوت، يتغنى بالقرآن يجهر به. (روى الشيخان)
قال الحافظ المنذري: ومعنى الحديث: ما استمع الله لشيء من كلام الناس كما استمع إلى من يتغنى بالقرآن، أي : يحسّن به صوته.
حديث : زينوا القرآن بأصواتكم (أخرجه أبو داود)
حديث: إن هذا القرآن نزل بحزن، فإذا قرأتموه فبكوا، فإن لم تبكوا فتباكوا، وتغنوا به فمن لم يتغنَّ بالقرآن فليس منا. (أخرجه ابن ماجه)
You're a little late to the party. There's been a follow up video here: ruclips.net/video/1W4aNnHC_vE/видео.html
@@khanceptbelal the guy has no idea what he is talking about. He called the recitation of Imam Sudais and himself Maqam Hijaz. He should really stop talking about things he has no idea about. No benefit at all listening to him talking about maqamaat.
@@aliraheemrane357 did you watch the follow-up?
@@khanceptbelal yes I did
Thank you
I think arabic 101 has a video on maqamaat what do you think do they actually know it
For the love of god stop this, don’t talk about something you know nothing about. Pure ignorance.
Not sure what part of the discussion you're referring to as ignorance. But, consider the continued discussion here
ruclips.net/video/1W4aNnHC_vE/видео.html