Correction: Doom is in control of the fictional nation of Latveria which was made for Marvel comics. He is not in control of Latvia, the real country in northern Europe. Oppsie, i mistyped my script.
Dev Diaries Vol 1 already established four main Chronoverses: 1) Present timeline: Where Evil Readily Strikes 2) Techno-Dystopia of 2099 3) Unstable Space-Time in the Mosaic Timeline 4) Collapsing Timeline: Where even Gods can die Luna Snow is in the present timeline, because in their interaction between her and Peni/Black Widow, both of them mentioned her songs are in the oldies section in their radio stations. She is also in the same timeline as Namor, as for some reason, Namor can travel between space-time as well (he can summon a gate that allows him to travel through Krakoa)
I have not seen the dev diaries. Very neat to know. I don't believe Namor can do that. But he was given a seed that lets mutants travel to Krakoa. Wolverine used the same seed magic when he was in Limbo during Magik's story. I wonder if any of the stories (other than Wanda)are from the Gods can die chronoverse. Shuri and Reed talked as if that wasn't either of their own, so that counts them (and anyone established from them)out.
Thank you very much. As I was making this video I searched for other videos on the subject but they all just talked about Doom. I'm very glad I made this video!
I have heard their voice lines. (The voice lines in this game are so good). All I can say is their character stories did not interact with each other. But it's very possible. I'm unfamiliar with both characters from the comics. Maybe in the second or third chapter (when those get released) we will find out!
ok you do understand how good and easy to follow this video is? amazing work, like REALLY amazing! the best Marvel Rivals lore video I've seen, and I've seen a lot of them.
After watching the whole vid, I was pretty surprised to see you only have 500 subs. Your pacing and ability to compact information without dragging a subject allows even my ADHD-riddled brain to follow, you're definitely gonna break quintaple digit sub count. 👑
I think the Hydra Base where Bucky and Hawkeye went is in the same Chronoverse as the Etwenal Night New York. Shuri tells Reed Richards in his Story that Cap rescued Bucky and Hawkeye, to which Reed responds, that he was worried where they were or something
I see you're also a lore scholar as well. This is correct. I am currently working on a longer video where I summarize every character story and I realized that connection.
Great vid! Looking forward to next version. Only suggestion i have is starting where this started, probably with Doom Visiting Strange and bugging him for the Darkhold. Also specify that Doom was fighting Strange in Strange's own sanctum, thats why he won... At first before the entire sanctum went into the Astral. This would ar least establish why the Chronoverses are interacting as a base event first.
Good advice. I currently am doing every character in alphabetical order. Maybe I'll put strange up front. Or I'll add a note that his story comes first.
@@Just.Westin but iron fist has a dialouge with luna where they seem to know each other, and if i recall her lore implies that namor was the one who sent the water beast to stop her, so luna is from the present day.
Excellent reply. I would guess that you are correct. Luna is probably from the "present timeline" (which I think I labeled eternal night in my video?). I also want to mention, the video is my "interpretation summary" of everything. I don't have 100% of the info memorized. I just tried to explain the basics of the lore in case others would be interested. Edit: also you are mostly correct on Namor/Luna. The one thing is we don't know if Namor sent the sea monster. The sea monster, known as Monstro, got a massive wound somehow (could it have been Namor? Possibly? But it's not confirmed), and because of the wound, it rampaged and happened to go to Jeju island. There, Luna healed Monstro and Namor thanked her but also threatened her by claiming he will soon take over Jeju island.
I played through that entire DLC. I don't remember any of it cause I skip most dialogue. The new areas were cool though, very refreshing. But yeah, eternal night seems like a classic vampire thing.
Excellent. I didn't see anything confirming where those characters were from. Which is why I kinda left it in the air. I have learned that Krakoa is in the 2099 chronoverse but it's originally from the Eternal Night chronoverse. Does that mean it should be its own thing or bundled with 2099? Probably bundled. But I feel it should be separate.
I am certain that my statement in the video is correct because in Black Widows story it says he never unfroze since the war. However, your point is still true. The reason this is possible is both Frank and Natasha got super soldier serum that slows the aging process. So Cap and Frank may have met each other a long time ago? I am uncertain on what Cap is referencing. Thanks for your question. It's good to double check my work.
@@makito106 That's very possible. But some of the lines call back to specific moments. So it's tough to say. For example, Mantis Jeff and Psylocke were all captured by the collector and they broke out together. They all have voice lines about being in the vault together.
Great video! is there a lore reason why the “good guys” are fighting each other or themselves in the actual matches or is that just for the sake of gameplay?
The band aid reason is Galacta. It's kinda a simple solution for why the gameplay is happening. Galacta wants to eat but doesn't want to eat whole universes. Instead she found the Marvel Rivals universe, jam packed with action, and she's recreating the important events to create energy and eats those recreations. This is my understanding of something I heard once from the Marvel Rivals RUclips channel and it didn't really interest me too much so I didn't look further.
5:21 klyntar isn't a planet, its a prison built by the symbiotes to imprison Knull. It's not where Knull is from, his origin is outside and before/beyond the universe
it would be really fun if the hydra tentacle monster is actually shuma gorath considering his track of being more well known for his video game appearances than being an extremely powerfull doctor strange villain
Those two and Mantis were all in the collectors vault. They broke out together, but we don't know where they are from. I have assumed Mantis is with the Guardians of the galaxy timeline though.
it would be kind of cool if they swapped out the lines the characters currently say with new lines based on how they are adapting to what’s happening. Also what’s the lore on why so very many fights are happening? I get the story explanation you gave for each map, but why have the battles happened millions of times?
Excellent question. That has a kinda "band-aid" solution that you've probably heard already. Galacta needs to eat. But she doesn't want to consume universes like Galactus does. So instead she is "recreating?" The events that happened in the Marvel Rivals universe for entertainment. And she is eating the energy that these replicas create? I'm not too certain all of those details were exactly right, but that's the jist of it.
Apparently she is Magnetos daughter in multiple versions of the comics. I don't know the full comic details. Just going off of the character chapters from the game.
I was also hoping someone else made the video. When I didn't see it I decided I'd do it myself. I see what you mean with the title change, but I don't know. I think the short simple title works for this one. But thanks for the suggestion, I think that would do well as well.
how can luna be from 2099? peni constantly tells her about how her music is on “oldies” stations and how much her grandma loved them when she was young.
I'm uncertain of comic book lore. I suspect sometimes it's siblings sometimes it's father and daughter?? But overall, I think you're correct. In many comics they are father/daughter. Which accurately reflects the original mythology.
Yes and no? I wasn't interested in that too much. It sounds like Galacta is simply an explanation for how these teams of 6 heroes are fighting each other? She's using them to recreate and redo the story moments from the lore for personal entertainment and food? I guess she eats these "reenactments" instead of eating actual planets / universes like her father. Hope that helps? I don't know if there's any further lore tied to it.
Captain America was from WW2 and Frank castle lived all the way into 2099? Cap woke up in a "new world" just like he did in the Marvel Movies? That's my best explanation. Your question is very valid, and now that I think more about it I'm not completely certain if Frank is from 2099 chronoverse or was just in the 2099 chronoverse during his personal story.
@Just.Westin I just know that the line is something like cap saying "if you're like the frank castle I know, you are the war you're trying to fight" or something like that. I'm like a cap one trick, so it just jumped out at me. Great video, though ❤️
@@H0pelessSapphic Thanks for the compliments! That does indicate that they're from different chronoverses. You might be right. Another commenter said maybe the people who wrote the stories are different from the Voice line writers? It's tough to say.
Galacta wants to eat but doesn't want to eat universes. So she is recreating moments from the Rivals universe, our games are the recreated variations that she enjoys watching (and eating?) I think this is the general story but I'm not super sure as I am not that interested.
Sorry about that. It has been bothering me as well. I will be turning down my settings so it doesn't pick up as much background noise. Maybe that will help. Thanks for the feedback
@@joaks1969 Yeah guessing they took inspiration from the mcu and made them siblings instead, which is ok I guess but I’d have preferred for them to stay more accurate to norse mythology honestly
5:21 if I wanted to listen to a poorly edited 2x speed version of the video, I would’ve put it on 2x speed and skipped around to the parts I find interesting. Next time, just make the video a couple minutes longer instead of this bullshit
Sorry about that. I understand the complaint. The goal was for it to be "rambly" and not important. But I get that the audio can be abrasive. The more detailed version of the video came out yesterday. It's 1 hour and 18 minutes long though. edit: I thought of a different way to explain my perspective so I'm adding on to the reply. For it to be a decent recap I can't add 2 minutes here and 2 minutes there for every single side story. So, to keep it efficient, I would cut a lot of the side stories and non-essential details. This was trying to show an example of something that I would love to talk about because I find it very interesting (and maybe you would as well), but ultimately it's not essential so it would be cut.
Correction:
Doom is in control of the fictional nation of Latveria which was made for Marvel comics.
He is not in control of Latvia, the real country in northern Europe.
Oppsie, i mistyped my script.
Latvia lololol
@magiccouponsREAL hahaha
Dev Diaries Vol 1 already established four main Chronoverses: 1) Present timeline: Where Evil Readily Strikes 2) Techno-Dystopia of 2099 3) Unstable Space-Time in the Mosaic Timeline 4) Collapsing Timeline: Where even Gods can die
Luna Snow is in the present timeline, because in their interaction between her and Peni/Black Widow, both of them mentioned her songs are in the oldies section in their radio stations. She is also in the same timeline as Namor, as for some reason, Namor can travel between space-time as well (he can summon a gate that allows him to travel through Krakoa)
I have not seen the dev diaries. Very neat to know.
I don't believe Namor can do that. But he was given a seed that lets mutants travel to Krakoa.
Wolverine used the same seed magic when he was in Limbo during Magik's story.
I wonder if any of the stories (other than Wanda)are from the Gods can die chronoverse. Shuri and Reed talked as if that wasn't either of their own, so that counts them (and anyone established from them)out.
The algorithm has blessed this video. Hope you blow up because this was short, sweet, and to-the-point
Thank you very much!
I didn't realize the lore went so deep, very nice.
Yes
I love how complicated and intertwined everything is, very comic-like
Absolutely. I love it too. The game developers could've given a boring one note reason for why they're all fighting, but they went the extra mile.
Very universal
Very cutesy
Finally, an easy to understand lore video that isn't just recapping the lore texts
Very kind of you!
All of the information I read is in the game. No unlocking required.
@ I know, I'm just glad you took the time to recap it in an easy enough format
Exactly! I made the video because I wished there was a more digestible way to learn it all.
Oh my god finally someone who doesnt just read the comic or a single lore book thank you dude I really appreciate this
It is my pleasure.
Thank you for the compliments
The is the best summary of the lore I’ve seen on RUclips. Thanks so much for this!
Thank you very much. As I was making this video I searched for other videos on the subject but they all just talked about Doom. I'm very glad I made this video!
11:00 Aren't Luna and Iron Fist friends? I remember a dialogue clip from somewhere of them reminiscing about their team before the TSE
I have heard their voice lines. (The voice lines in this game are so good). All I can say is their character stories did not interact with each other. But it's very possible. I'm unfamiliar with both characters from the comics.
Maybe in the second or third chapter (when those get released) we will find out!
ok you do understand how good and easy to follow this video is? amazing work, like REALLY amazing!
the best Marvel Rivals lore video I've seen, and I've seen a lot of them.
Thank you! That's an amazing compliment.
I tried very hard to make sure the video structure flowed well. I'm glad it's worked.
After watching the whole vid, I was pretty surprised to see you only have 500 subs. Your pacing and ability to compact information without dragging a subject allows even my ADHD-riddled brain to follow, you're definitely gonna break quintaple digit sub count. 👑
Thanks for the kind words!
I think the Hydra Base where Bucky and Hawkeye went is in the same Chronoverse as the Etwenal Night New York. Shuri tells Reed Richards in his Story that Cap rescued Bucky and Hawkeye, to which Reed responds, that he was worried where they were or something
I see you're also a lore scholar as well.
This is correct. I am currently working on a longer video where I summarize every character story and I realized that connection.
Great vid! Looking forward to next version. Only suggestion i have is starting where this started, probably with Doom Visiting Strange and bugging him for the Darkhold. Also specify that Doom was fighting Strange in Strange's own sanctum, thats why he won... At first before the entire sanctum went into the Astral.
This would ar least establish why the Chronoverses are interacting as a base event first.
Good advice.
I currently am doing every character in alphabetical order.
Maybe I'll put strange up front. Or I'll add a note that his story comes first.
Great video Westin! I haven't played Marvel Rivals but I really enjoyed hearing you summarize it.
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
Excellent username by the way. Axolotls are great
Is Luna Snow from 2099? There’s a voice line where Peni refers to Luna’s music as oldies and that her and her grandmother loved her music.
Tough to say.
Maybe Peni is talking about her worlds Luna-Snow?
Especially if it's the oldies
@@Just.Westin but iron fist has a dialouge with luna where they seem to know each other, and if i recall her lore implies that namor was the one who sent the water beast to stop her, so luna is from the present day.
Excellent reply.
I would guess that you are correct. Luna is probably from the "present timeline" (which I think I labeled eternal night in my video?).
I also want to mention, the video is my "interpretation summary" of everything. I don't have 100% of the info memorized. I just tried to explain the basics of the lore in case others would be interested.
Edit: also you are mostly correct on Namor/Luna. The one thing is we don't know if Namor sent the sea monster. The sea monster, known as Monstro, got a massive wound somehow (could it have been Namor? Possibly? But it's not confirmed), and because of the wound, it rampaged and happened to go to Jeju island. There, Luna healed Monstro and Namor thanked her but also threatened her by claiming he will soon take over Jeju island.
Very well, structured video! Definitely continue to do more of this!
Thank you. I hopefully will.
Great video. Simple, concise and to the points
Thank you very much! That was my goal!
I think it's very gratifying when you hear you've accomplished your goal!
I've never even seen a concept image of marvel dracula but he's apparently so relevant :0
Indeed. I also didn't know Dracula was used in Marvel. Very interesting though.
isn’t it funny how draculas plan is the same as harkons from the dawnguard dlc in Skyrim, eternal night and whats not
I played through that entire DLC. I don't remember any of it cause I skip most dialogue. The new areas were cool though, very refreshing.
But yeah, eternal night seems like a classic vampire thing.
Great story telling
Thank you
Earned a subscriber.
Yoooo. Thank you
7:40 iirc namor is from the same universe as luna snow and iron fist and krakoa is in 2099 too
Excellent. I didn't see anything confirming where those characters were from. Which is why I kinda left it in the air.
I have learned that Krakoa is in the 2099 chronoverse but it's originally from the Eternal Night chronoverse.
Does that mean it should be its own thing or bundled with 2099? Probably bundled. But I feel it should be separate.
4:08 I don't think that make sense since Cap said he has interacted with his own punisher
I am certain that my statement in the video is correct because in Black Widows story it says he never unfroze since the war.
However, your point is still true. The reason this is possible is both Frank and Natasha got super soldier serum that slows the aging process. So Cap and Frank may have met each other a long time ago? I am uncertain on what Cap is referencing.
Thanks for your question. It's good to double check my work.
@@Just.Westin I think the mistake might from rivals. The lore and random spawn room lines might have different writers
@@makito106 That's very possible.
But some of the lines call back to specific moments. So it's tough to say.
For example, Mantis Jeff and Psylocke were all captured by the collector and they broke out together. They all have voice lines about being in the vault together.
Great video! is there a lore reason why the “good guys” are fighting each other or themselves in the actual matches or is that just for the sake of gameplay?
The band aid reason is Galacta. It's kinda a simple solution for why the gameplay is happening.
Galacta wants to eat but doesn't want to eat whole universes.
Instead she found the Marvel Rivals universe, jam packed with action, and she's recreating the important events to create energy and eats those recreations.
This is my understanding of something I heard once from the Marvel Rivals RUclips channel and it didn't really interest me too much so I didn't look further.
5:21 klyntar isn't a planet, its a prison built by the symbiotes to imprison Knull. It's not where Knull is from, his origin is outside and before/beyond the universe
Ahhh that makes sense.
Some things were referring to it "becoming a planet over time."
Thank you for explaining it to me.
It's cooler than I thought.
it would be really fun if the hydra tentacle monster is actually shuma gorath considering his track of being more well known for his video game appearances than being an extremely powerfull doctor strange villain
That would be cool. In the story it was just Generic tentacle monster.
But maybe it'll be in one of the next chapters
This is probably the greatest lore video I’ve seen on this game but the one thing I need to know is where do Psylocke and Jeff fit into this?
Those two and Mantis were all in the collectors vault. They broke out together, but we don't know where they are from. I have assumed Mantis is with the Guardians of the galaxy timeline though.
it would be kind of cool if they swapped out the lines the characters currently say with new lines based on how they are adapting to what’s happening. Also what’s the lore on why so very many fights are happening? I get the story explanation you gave for each map, but why have the battles happened millions of times?
Excellent question. That has a kinda "band-aid" solution that you've probably heard already.
Galacta needs to eat. But she doesn't want to consume universes like Galactus does.
So instead she is "recreating?" The events that happened in the Marvel Rivals universe for entertainment. And she is eating the energy that these replicas create?
I'm not too certain all of those details were exactly right, but that's the jist of it.
I'm glad they made Wanda be Magneto's daughter
Apparently she is Magnetos daughter in multiple versions of the comics.
I don't know the full comic details. Just going off of the character chapters from the game.
@Just.Westin yeah, her & pietro were originally magneto's kids, and then it got retconned in 2014(?)
I'm not a big fan of the retcon lol
Dracula canonically owes Moon Knight money by the way
That's hilarious! 😂
Also I have to ask, Are you talking about comics or did I miss something from Marvel Rivals lore?
That was good my guy
Thank you dude
Id suggest changing the title to “What Actually Happens in Marvel Rivals” or something better, i was exactly looking for this video, thanks!
I was also hoping someone else made the video. When I didn't see it I decided I'd do it myself.
I see what you mean with the title change, but I don't know. I think the short simple title works for this one.
But thanks for the suggestion, I think that would do well as well.
how can luna be from 2099? peni constantly tells her about how her music is on “oldies” stations and how much her grandma loved them when she was young.
I must have been mistaken. My bad.
Holy fuck this video is so goated THANK YOU
Thank you very much!
The MCU has been pretty bad recently, but I’d still die for a movie adaptation of this
@frozenburrito2.087 YES! That would be great. Don't see how it could happen though :(
6:15 weren’t Loki and Hela father and daughter in the comics?
I'm uncertain of comic book lore.
I suspect sometimes it's siblings sometimes it's father and daughter??
But overall, I think you're correct. In many comics they are father/daughter. Which accurately reflects the original mythology.
Anything on galacta or is she just sorta there?
Yes and no?
I wasn't interested in that too much. It sounds like Galacta is simply an explanation for how these teams of 6 heroes are fighting each other? She's using them to recreate and redo the story moments from the lore for personal entertainment and food? I guess she eats these "reenactments" instead of eating actual planets / universes like her father.
Hope that helps? I don't know if there's any further lore tied to it.
If frank castle and cap come from the same timeline, why do they have voice lines talking about coming from different worlds?
Captain America was from WW2 and Frank castle lived all the way into 2099?
Cap woke up in a "new world" just like he did in the Marvel Movies?
That's my best explanation.
Your question is very valid, and now that I think more about it I'm not completely certain if Frank is from 2099 chronoverse or was just in the 2099 chronoverse during his personal story.
@Just.Westin I just know that the line is something like cap saying "if you're like the frank castle I know, you are the war you're trying to fight" or something like that. I'm like a cap one trick, so it just jumped out at me. Great video, though ❤️
@@H0pelessSapphic Thanks for the compliments!
That does indicate that they're from different chronoverses. You might be right.
Another commenter said maybe the people who wrote the stories are different from the Voice line writers? It's tough to say.
5:04 I think Warlock is from eternal night
Interesting. It's possible.
The mouse click
How else can I stop recording?
But why are they fighting each other?
Galacta wants to eat but doesn't want to eat universes. So she is recreating moments from the Rivals universe, our games are the recreated variations that she enjoys watching (and eating?)
I think this is the general story but I'm not super sure as I am not that interested.
Isnt psylock a mutant?
Yes she is! I learned about that during her story, just didn't bring it up.
How does this tie in to the marvel rivals comics?
I do not know yet. I've only read stuff that I can access through the game.
Maybe I'll find out more
cool vid but the mic quality hurts my ears :(
Sorry about that. It has been bothering me as well. I will be turning down my settings so it doesn't pick up as much background noise.
Maybe that will help.
Thanks for the feedback
Actually, Hela is Loki's daughter
Not in Marvel Rivals
@@joaks1969 Yeah guessing they took inspiration from the mcu and made them siblings instead, which is ok I guess but I’d have preferred for them to stay more accurate to norse mythology honestly
@@ark2074 Apparently Angela is being added to Marvel Rivals at some point so that's going to be 4 siblings in one game.
As someone else said, I just went off of the lore in the game. But you are correct about Norse mythology
@joaks1969 Oh that's fun! I've never heard of that character. Can't wait to see and learn.
5:21 if I wanted to listen to a poorly edited 2x speed version of the video, I would’ve put it on 2x speed and skipped around to the parts I find interesting. Next time, just make the video a couple minutes longer instead of this bullshit
Sorry about that. I understand the complaint.
The goal was for it to be "rambly" and not important. But I get that the audio can be abrasive.
The more detailed version of the video came out yesterday. It's 1 hour and 18 minutes long though.
edit: I thought of a different way to explain my perspective so I'm adding on to the reply.
For it to be a decent recap I can't add 2 minutes here and 2 minutes there for every single side story. So, to keep it efficient, I would cut a lot of the side stories and non-essential details. This was trying to show an example of something that I would love to talk about because I find it very interesting (and maybe you would as well), but ultimately it's not essential so it would be cut.
Perma locked in gold 1 is what happens, spoiler alert
Ha! Clever! Good luck with the climb
Dude this is so much nonsense lol. Bad story.
Totally.
Couldn't even follow the main character! 4/10