TENS Devices (DO THEY WORK?)
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
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Research to read:
High-Rate
1) Grimmer K. A controlled double blind study comparing the effects of strong Burst Mode TENS and High Rate TENS on painful osteoarthritic knees. Aust J Physiother. 1992;38(1):49-56.
2) Sluka KA, Walsh D. Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation: basic science mechanisms and clinical effectiveness. J Pain. 2003 Apr;4(3):109-21.
3) Grover CA, McKernan MP, Close RJH. Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS) in the Emergency Department for Pain Relief: A Preliminary Study of Feasibility and Efficacy. West J Emerg Med. 2018;19(5):872-876.
Low-Rate
1) Barcala-Furelos R, González-Represas A, Rey E, Martínez-Rodríguez A, Kalén A, Marques O, Rama L. Is Low-Frequency Electrical Stimulation a Tool for Recovery after a Water Rescue? A Cross-Over Study with Lifeguards. Int J Environ Res Public Health. 2020 Aug 12;17(16):5854.
2) Westcott WL, Chen T, Neric FB, DiNubile N, Bowirrat A, et al. The Marc ProTM device improves muscle performance and recovery from concentric and eccentric exercise induced muscle fatigue in humans: a pilot study. Journal of Exercise Physiology Online. 2011;15:55-67
3) Westcott W, Han D, DiNubile N, Neric F, et al. Effects of electrical stimulation using mar pro TM device during the recovery period on calf muscle strength and fatigue in adult fitness participants. Journal of Exercise Physiology Online. 2012;16(2):40-49
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All I know is, back in my college football days, the TENS unit coupled with either a heating pad or ice massage removed swelling from my lower quads that was so bad I could barely walk. I'd go into the training room after bumping knees with one of the offensive linemen double blocking me and assume that I wouldn't be able to practice for a week. Twenty minutes later I was almost brand new, which was a bummer when I was looking forward to being lazy that day.
Seing a big man like Nick using EMS, elastics and little weights on his recovery makes me feel at ease with my shoulder decompression process recovery now. ❤️
Aaron, after reading the Ice article and personally after physical therapy sessions to address a lifting injury my mentality towards core and recovery has changed immensely. I purchased the PowerDot and it’s a game changer! I can’t wait to fully utilize it for my journey of life!
Here from IG. Always look forward to your drops. I refer my clients to your videos regularly because you do an awesome job. Thanks for you work my friend!
Thank you so much for checking out all my content!
@@SquatUniversityyou skip all the specific questions where you could help people and respond instead to something like this? You’ve got big muscles and you’re awesome. Maybe you can respond to this too.
Aaron...Thank you! I now understand how a TENS unit work and its benefits. Blessings.
I had a hip replacement done 8 months ago. They didn’t tell me that trochanteric bursitis is a complication of the surgery. I’ve always been incredibly active. Now I can barely lie on my right side. Since I used to be physical therapy aid, I already knew about the wonders of tens therapy. I use it several times daily. The relief is immediate. Better than ice, lidocaine patches and voltaren gel. I also eat an anti inflammatory diet. Sugar and dairy are super bad and cause inflammation. I exercise as well, mostly swimming.
Thank you. I needed to hear feedback on these gadgets from someone reputable and involved in the strength community.
Even if it’s placebo it’s helped relax muscles around my inflamed patellar tendon. Helped playing college ball
Hi, thanks for the amazing information of this video but i have a question: Which is the difference between low-rate TENS and EMS and which is the best option to enhance and improve recovery after workout for lifters of athletes? Because i knew that also EMS stimulate muscles like low-rate TENS
How does a device like the marcPro compare to a normatec for recovery? Love the content as always!!
I have a herniated disc in my L5-SI (lumbar/lower spine) so I have back pain, and the TENS Machine is a game changer, I would keep it on 24/7 if I could, really helps with pain
i suffer from hernia also , does this machine help you with pain and muscle spams on back?
I used one for tenniselbow, and still use it after a long session playing guitar or piano. And if a muscle feels "uncomfortable".
I twisted my knee in basketball,
and this kind of device help me a lot to strengthen again the muscles around the knee.
Used it for almost a month, and my knee is feeling better now.
@Squat University, do you have a recommendation between the Powerdot 2.0 and the Marc Pro? Also were you insinuating that the Powerdot 2.0 isn't as effective for recovery as the Marc Pro?
tq. very informative video
It's funny just saw on the other day and have been thinking about it
Also here from IG. Could you advise maybe, on what rate I should use the device when recovering from a tibia plateau fracture? I am post a 6 week full leg cast an mainly my quad needs support and my knee swelling is pretty dominant. I am on week 10 post injury, I walk without cruthes and any braces, I have a very minor limp at this stage.
great info thank you
I’m 12 day post op from tibia Nail. Iv been in the HBot chamber 6 times and using Tens. The swelling has nearly completely gone and apart from some pressure in my foot of a morning, I’m not in any pain at all. If Aaron promotes Tens I’m all in.
This sht is the best !!! My lower back is so happy I'm telling you right now!
when many r getting great results...that speaks for itsrlf ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Could using such a device like the Marc Pro promote scar tissue healing in the ankle from repeated ankle sprains in the sport of basketball?
-Scar tissue from repeated sprains and icing causing terrible ankle mobility?
Nice! 👌🏼
I'd be very interested to know the real world difference between the cheaper and quite expensive machines as the one Nick used is £1600 in the UK 😯
no reply from him, so hes not worth to subscribe to his channel
@@andrescoco519 bruh he has thousands of comments
@@andrescoco519 he gives out a heaps of free information and is pt to some of the strongest men and women in the world.
Hello Aron, can you please make a video about tailbone pain in squats a deadlift?
Thanks for your work.
Thank you ☺️ do you recommend this over massage gun or massage gun is different? Thanks again
Is the low rate TENS also called FES? Here in Brazil they give these two types on treatments. TENS is the one that doesn't contract the muscles and FES is the one that does. Just wondering so I can look for the correct equipment over here.
They must be the same. Here in EU its called EMS.
I do think the high rate tens helps with muscle tightness by fatiguing the muscle and helping it relax. If I get a bad muscle spasm in my back and I go to PT, they put the high rate tens on with heat. I feel much much better afterward. I think they key is using the right tool for the right job.
True - and to also do something active directly after to address WHY the area is spasmed in the first place. The problem i see too often with physical therapist that use high rate often is they use it with heat or ice and don't do enough exercise to promote treating the why.
How long does it take to fatigue the muscle?
I actually bought the fitrx version at Walmart and it has high and low tens. Works really good. Really gets the muscles jumping.
It’s after a major injury you start to consider other methods to overall health and fitness
How to place electrodes on impingement shoulder - supraspinatus or serratus?
My unit has IFC and NMES settings, are those any better or different than TENS? Thanks, really enjoy learning from you!
How do I know which one is high rate or low rate the products in the UK don't seem to specify that? Thank you
Should I ice my hip after full replacement surgery?
Would a tins machine help my recovery after hip replacement?
Would this be used for building muscle and if so is it more beneficial to be exercising at the same time...Thanks😊
I have the same question
What is the difference between EMS and Low Rate TENS?
Bad about only using my Tens when my inflammation & stiffness get so bad that I'm not able to move around well. Really need to utilize bit more while I'm actually recovering in the evening from a day of of activity, cardio & liftingb
Is it good for muscle knots in the body?
I have mine on now 😊
I have a client with rheumatoid arthritis. Some days she can do things, other days not so much. I’m looking to get her some EMS relief for after training and on her bad days when moving is unbearable. Would you say this is a good idea??
I've used a tens device at pt for low back but didn't know I could purchase one for home use.
How could I gauge how beneficial one would be for home use and if it's a worthwhile investment?
Another way to word my question is, what is the difference between using one at the clinic and prescribing someone to use one at home?
Aaron, is this the same thing as EMS Technology? (Electric Muscle Stimulation) BODY20 uses it to contract your muscles while you strength train with light weights. Will it actually help with strength training workouts?
Got anything for us poor folk
I saw one from agaro company is that any good?
They're available on Amazon for about 40.
AliExpress ones are cheap af and works pretty good
They’re $12 on TikTok shop
I got one 12 years old from flea market for 3€, still works great just had to buy some new pads.
Just get used one
Hi what do you think about tens for tendonitis? I have had bad bicep tendonitis which gives tennis and golfers elbow would these type of devices help with recovery?
Thanks for the information again but the descriptions on the devices I see don't say anything about low or high rate
How about a vid correcting foot supination?
Can you please talk about how to fix tricep tendinopathu
What about a NMES device? How are they different and does NMES have a place in recovery and pain relief?
i have had an impingement in my left side of my upper back. The pain keeps on moving to different parts but on the left lat only. Its been over a year but it doesn't recover. Will this helpm
High rate and low rate are you referring to frequency?
Oct 2020 I had a complete pec tear and had surgery soon after. A year later I have no pain, but am still not as strong. I am very careful to push my pec. My question is could Ems potentially help in the strengthening process?
I snapped my pectoral muscle benching too heavy. It literally sounded like a loud "pop". I was in excruciating pain for a month but I started light lifting on it weeks into the injury. Gradually working my way back to full weights and it was fully healed with original strength within 2 months. I always lift injured and with tears, I'm convinced it encourages strong healing and fast healing.
Thanks
Surgery on a bone, is tens device suitable? As I’m Thinking of all the muscles affected around the bone post surgery?
Would you recommend for mild tennis/golfers elbow?
Dr Aaron, my wife had Guilliame Barre syndrome/sickness and her muscles between the knee and the hip are virtually non existant ...she can walk but has no function of the muscles to for example stand up from a chair. You will unerstand what I try to explain. Can or would this devices help to regain her muscles strength in her upper legs? Appreciate.
tens help with joint recovery and healing?
Helps with back pain way faster!!!
I'll buy one.
And now I have.
Will use it tonight.
Some units have EMS too, how does that compare to low and/or high rate TENS?
I’d like to know too
Super thankful for your content. My question is for something like the "Bionic Gym" that is designed for extended and habitual use for conditioning and potentially supplementing weight loss, is it possible for this kind of TENS or EMS technology to cause nerve or muscle damage? Are there any reasons not to use that kind of a device? And is it realistic to expect improved muscle performance with consistent use, especially in the untrained?
What is your take on the Compex? Compex does offer low frequency twitches yet with no muscle contraction on the "Competition Recovery/Recovery Plus" setting. Is it preferable to have muscle contraction vs low frequency twitches? Thank you.
Also interested in this. I received a compex fit 1.0 today from my physiotherapist
Can this be used for elbow pain (golfers elbows)?
Power dot does also create a muscle pump
God i remember using one on my abs and DAMN dont know about you but it felt amazing!
kept using it till my dad got his hands on it and lost it :/
Which unit did you use on your abs? Did it help build muscle at all?
After my 1st session with my PT, he thinks my front delt pain might be bicep or chest tendinitis. Would I place my unit on my chest and biceps rather than my front delt? Does it matter?
How much is taken in lower back pain????
Tried tens machine on my Dad's diabetic foot drop issues. He is not feeling the tens pads it on his legs. But he can feel it on his lower back and lower buttocks. Does this mean his legs nerves are damaged/numb and we should continue putting the pads there, even if he's not feeling the tens vibrations? Thanks
His nerves are dead. just like my grand father...
Can my Compex help with patellar tendinitis? If so, how do I place the pads for that kind of pain? I've looked online for a lot of sources and even the compex RUclips channel, but still can't find any information. Thank you!
If it's really tendonitis it would only help with pain in the short term and not enough to fix the cause of it (often a load related issue). So I usually don't recommend TENS for those types of injuries.
Is that the only proper placement for tens of the quads?
Is this good for stroke patients with no movement on the Left side of the body o
Makes me feel sick just seeing it 😅
It's probably reminding me of having carpal tunnel tests and the electronic pulses making me almost pass out
Is this something you could take every time you go to the gym or only for muscle / injury recovery? Can you overstimulate the muscle with the low rate tens, if you do it 30mins every day?
Yes - I use my MarcPro after every day of training. It's basically like adding in a quick active recovery session (like a quick walk or riding a bike) but less stressful on the body.
Would the Marc be useful for this too?
Is power dot not compensated by Insurance?
Does the low rate tens help to prevent muscle atrophy during injury? E.g knee injury and sustaining VMO.
Did you ever get an answer to this ?
@@shelbymcdaniel6868 no 😢
Yes please answer for me too
TENS therapy is highly questionable. It will lighten your pockets paying for the therapy or buying a unit. That may make you a little quicker.
Ya that 37.00 I paid ..im sore from the concrete I zzz on
@@bryanfrombuffalo7685 37 dollars that coulda been spent towards getting a foam roller or any other reliable means of recovery
@@joemfahey foam roller is proven to do nothing dude lol
Can you place this on your belly to burn belly fat while your sitting down?
Do you recommend any other low rate TENS like the MarcPro?
All of the units I showed do Low-Rate as well - so any of them are good choices. The marcPro is just my favorite.
@@SquatUniversity oh nice, thank you! I thought the Powerdot didn't but that's good to know.
Does the mark help with pain as well as stimulate muscle? Does it help build muscle?
How do I tell if my unit has low rate tens? Or how do I put it into that mode?
Doc, are yiu rich? The low rate EMS unit you mentioned is hundreds of dollars to over 1 grand. I’d love a low rate EMS device for occasional home use. Do you know of any other units?
Do you a video on H-Wave?
So does the power dot do low rate?
Could TENS be recommended to recover from a disc injury or SI issues? Or to use it regularly to improve lower back health in general?
I would like to know an answer to this too.
They can help. But the TENS unit alone isn’t going to heal you.
@@fizbo2030what would you recommend for healing?
Patellar tendinitis? I really need an answer to this!!
Homeboy didn't skip leg day :)
👌👍🔥
Plz make a video on how to lift with more aggression, rage and hype before attempting a PR and also how to prime our CNS for heavy lifting hope u will address this in future videos
I work animals me 160 pounds fighting with 16 24000 pounds cows as long as I’m moving thousands of pounds of hay a day should I go about tjis?
I would like to put on 10 to 20 pounds
Anyone have fibromyalgia/chronic pain that have had relief with TENS machines??
I have fibromyalgia and it helped my back and shoulder pain
I don't even need to watch this video to tell you that TENS worked very well for me when nothing else did. So yes I recommend it.
What about H-wave?
It makes you hurt more for your body to kick up it's pain killing ability
But isn't swelling supposed to be good ? Why would one want to decrease it with TENS ?
Inflammation is good - swelling on the other hand if left to sit in a joint can be bad.
Is this the same as a firefly?
Aaron, I am a past patient and still having tendonitis in my shoulder. Would low rate TENS help with healing of this area? Thank you.
Har to say 100% without seeing the person and knowing their case more, but in my experience with shoulder pain, most of the time - opting to find the specific reasoning behind the pain and crafting an exercise program that really addresses that will be more beneficial and give more ROI than a TENS.
What about EMS? Would that be more helpful in this situation if tendonitis or small shoulder tear
Wich model? Looks way more robust then the shitty amazon models
I put a tens device on my nipples and turned it to 30
how could you grow VMO at this level!!!!?? I mean what was the exercise?
DO THEY WORK?
How much did they paid you to say all this?
Honest question, is this sponsored content?
No. I literally use the MarcPro daily and give out TENS devices to my patients daily. Use whatever one you want but they are worth it IMO
@@SquatUniversity Cool, appreciate the content 👍
I hate these paid reviews, you are better than this. Don't promote these fake products.