A History of "Offense" in Competitive Pokemon.

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
  • Competitive Singles has a community that likes to categorize Pokemon teams under certain Team archetypes.
    These archetypes are a bit like a Spectrum from Defensive to Offensive.
    Towards the end of the spectrum land simple "Offense" Teams. These teams aim to apply pressure to the enemy at pretty much every point of the game, not usually employing strategies such as healing or supportive utility.
    However, they aren't completely all in on offensive threats with no backbone whatsoever. They often consistent of Sturdy Pokemon that can come in a couple of times against enemy threats, but rather than be Passive and exploitable from there, they keep pressure up by Attacking, Exploding or even Pivoting out safely back to your Offensive pieces.
    Let's explore 1 example of an Offensive team from every Generation and how this style has evolved throughout the years.
    Congratulations to Trash Boat for having the winning suggestion in the Patreon video poll.
    / jimothycool
    Teams mentioned:
    Gen 1 - pokepast.es/d0ef0c8de0996914
    Gen 2 - pokepast.es/d1d6a8b2d8afafd4
    Gen 3 - pokepast.es/a1cb927e97716d78
    Gen 4 - pokepast.es/60d8bf3dbc75b5cd
    Gen 5 - pokepast.es/a9bf607dcaad2cda
    Gen 6 - pokepast.es/25764e894d8bebb1
    Gen 7 - pokepast.es/ca374d206bcb3f5d
    Gen 8 - pokepast.es/d46a7aa62e5d40a4
    Gen 9 - pokepast.es/f127834a427b2277
    0:00 Intro
    2:26 Gen 1
    4:36 Gen 2
    7:07 Gen 3
    11:00 Gen 4
    13:15 Gen 5
    16:03 Gen 6
    18:12 Gen 7
    20:53 Gen 8
    23:05 Gen 9
    #pokemon #pokemonshowdown #pokemonscarletandviolet #competitivepokemon
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Комментарии • 127

  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  24 дня назад +34

    They Might Ban Reuniclus. But Why?
    ruclips.net/video/0GV_iq97kw4/видео.html

    • @fcox7015
      @fcox7015 24 дня назад +2

      if magcargo manages to achieve victory in the horse civil war, will it's faction and their new rule, stretch the definition of horse? and if so, to what extent?
      for example, will all quadruped pokemon be granted horse-likelyness in the eyes of the law?
      like metagross...
      can metagross be considered a horse now?
      what about garchomp...
      garchomp is really fast, would he be considered a sand-horse, or a horse-shark?
      what actions will the fellowship of 600 bsp gym bros take, now that they have watched a few of your previous videos, gazing upond their primal, young, glory days, from the depts of uu?
      will metagrass, the hypie grass-psychic type paradox form of metagross, appear from the fog of war, tempting him with visions of explosions, even tho he is busted +1 attack, +2 speed, in front of a gengar, only enemy remaining pokemon of enemy team, with the purpose of premptively counteract the enemy terastalization tactics in gen 3ou?
      so many questions indeedth

  • @ShmeckleBoy
    @ShmeckleBoy 24 дня назад +276

    "In competitive Pokemon, there is a spectrum"
    And we are all on it, my friends.

    • @splitsee2526
      @splitsee2526 24 дня назад +19

      yea im quite acoustic lmao

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb 24 дня назад +8

      I do indeed have le autism

    • @calook1334
      @calook1334 24 дня назад +6

      here here

    • @shadowguardian321
      @shadowguardian321 24 дня назад +7

      I am definitely a bit agnostic

    • @Zo3yX
      @Zo3yX 24 дня назад +4

      I am a bit colorful myself :3

  • @tk24life
    @tk24life 24 дня назад +95

    I saw Jynx in the thumbnail and read it, "A History of 'Offensive' Competitive Pokemon" lol

    • @Zo3yX
      @Zo3yX 24 дня назад +4

      I did, too, at first and was wondering how many could there be lol

    • @melffyrabby1009
      @melffyrabby1009 24 дня назад +2

      SAME

    • @haeun6053
      @haeun6053 24 дня назад +1

      That had to be intentional by our old pal Jim.

  • @Asamuraidoge
    @Asamuraidoge 24 дня назад +119

    12:29 everyone always talks about "groodon" but no one ever mentions "gairo ball"

  • @MeatKisser
    @MeatKisser 24 дня назад +63

    117 subs? A massive win for offensive people

    • @kamemelia_
      @kamemelia_ 24 дня назад +1

      I must say however, that I do find it very offensive

  • @ohyeawooyea7708
    @ohyeawooyea7708 24 дня назад +68

    Your videos put me to sleep immediately. I actually have a hard time sleeping without them now and am always happy when theres new videos out

    • @its_me_jamie
      @its_me_jamie 24 дня назад +43

      Dear Jimothy Cool,
      I am writing to express my deep appreciation for your Competitive Pokémon videos. Just as Sleep Powder gently lulls a Pokémon into a peaceful slumber and Yawn gradually induces drowsiness, your insightful commentary and calming delivery have a similarly soothing effect on me. The detailed strategies and engaging content not only enhance my understanding of competitive play but also help me unwind and transition into a restful state.

    • @etymonlegomenon931
      @etymonlegomenon931 24 дня назад +5

      Go to bed earlier

    • @nintenster
      @nintenster 24 дня назад +34

      Your videos put me in the shower immediately. I actually have a hard time showering without them now and am always happy when theres a new video out.

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 24 дня назад +3

      But sleep moves are banned in gen 9 OU so Mr. Cool is breaking Smogon law

    • @mediumxanax
      @mediumxanax 23 дня назад +2

      it was a global win for the jimothy cool sleepers when he changed his outro to calming music

  • @elchingon12346
    @elchingon12346 24 дня назад +14

    Between this and Pinkacross’s videos this has really helped me learn the differences between archetypes. This for the history of offense, and Pinkacross’s for the theory of offense.

  • @Magikarpador
    @Magikarpador 24 дня назад +17

    i learned to play pokemon with two sweepers, two walls, a lead, and an anti-sweeper/disruptor. it's comfortable and makes sense to me.

    • @anupampramanik7728
      @anupampramanik7728 24 дня назад +1

      You mean balance

    • @Magikarpador
      @Magikarpador 24 дня назад +13

      @@anupampramanik7728 It's comfortable and makes balance to me

  • @etymonlegomenon931
    @etymonlegomenon931 24 дня назад +21

    I'm concerned by Jimothy Cool's deceptive behaviour. We were promised new subscribers would be converted to Horsepower at once. Yet you say we've not given Magcargo the converted subscribers at this time? Magcargo may be in danger from a treacherous tactic of Horsea's own if he doesn't receive the needed Horsepower. Could this be a duplicitous move on Jimothy's part?

    • @wellshit9489
      @wellshit9489 24 дня назад

      Jimothy cool is not to be trusted. He may act like he cares for the pokemon, or even the viewer but Jimothy cares for no one save himself.
      He is a ruthless business man, most likely in kahoots with the likes of Old Money.

  • @peachykeen3194
    @peachykeen3194 24 дня назад +10

    I'm so excited to see this Gen III team running around the ADV ladder for the next month.
    ...anyway I'm off to ladder with this Gen III team, wish me luck.

  • @the_gastrodon3797
    @the_gastrodon3797 24 дня назад +8

    I truly hope iron mugulis does not make an appearance and turn the tide of the horse civil war

  • @arthurellanna3766
    @arthurellanna3766 24 дня назад +3

    Favorite one that comes to mind recently was Tera Poison Heidrigon running sub draco to counter nacl and Kingambit

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 24 дня назад +4

    Gen 9: well just throw a dart, you’ll have to try and hit something other than offense

  • @CoralReaper707
    @CoralReaper707 24 дня назад +3

    2:26 Yeah, I definitely feel you on this one, especially since everything has maxed out bulk and no items.

  • @peteypariah6603
    @peteypariah6603 24 дня назад +2

    when 125/90/90 bulk is considered frail

  • @joefarrow1599
    @joefarrow1599 24 дня назад +14

    I unsubscribed and resubscribed. Will this count towards Magcargo's increased horsepower?

  • @r.j.tammaro8383
    @r.j.tammaro8383 24 дня назад +12

    “Quite frail” to 125/90/90 bulk I love gen 9

    • @luiseduardo8806
      @luiseduardo8806 24 дня назад +2

      Who tf has this bulk? That's a freaking wall

    • @GusZiliotto
      @GusZiliotto 24 дня назад +9

      120 attack "quite mediocre"
      110 speed "medium speed tier"

    • @genericbee1902
      @genericbee1902 24 дня назад

      @@luiseduardo8806 Kyerum

    • @hattruck8607
      @hattruck8607 24 дня назад

      Well, it's an ice type

    • @r.j.tammaro8383
      @r.j.tammaro8383 24 дня назад

      @@hattruck8607 very fair also makes it funnier that baxcalibur outclasses

  • @knucklesskinner253
    @knucklesskinner253 24 дня назад +1

    our horse power is going up like electric cars are going up in flames

  • @tajaniscott
    @tajaniscott 24 дня назад +4

    we are all on the spectrum indeed

  • @calebstanerstratsshop1834
    @calebstanerstratsshop1834 23 дня назад

    I'm getting back into pokemon via pokemmo. And I gotta say your vids have been super interesting to me. I always watched competitive pokemon videos. This is the first time I can actually apply anything in my own gameplay!

  • @a.m.9061
    @a.m.9061 24 дня назад +2

    Dude perfect timing on this one, i'm struggling a lot wt gen 5 teambuilding

  • @azeria1
    @azeria1 24 дня назад +3

    Jinx was considered on offensive teams but for a different reason same with coffagrgius

  • @et34t34fdf
    @et34t34fdf 24 дня назад +3

    Surprised by the lack of ice types, like mamoswine or especially weavile, its a typing thats all about offense.

    • @enderchau954
      @enderchau954 24 дня назад

      Ice Beam is so common on water types that it doesn't need heavily and mamo as much.(Unless you're a gen 9 kyurem or you have ice spiner.)

    • @et34t34fdf
      @et34t34fdf 24 дня назад

      @@enderchau954 STAB is really valuable though, and speaking of waters, i'm also surprised by the lack of cloyster with Shell smash, suits offensive very well.

    • @enderchau954
      @enderchau954 24 дня назад

      @et34t34fdf Shell Smash is for hyper offense even without whiteherb. You either using the one time use item or risk dying because of defense drop.

    • @et34t34fdf
      @et34t34fdf 24 дня назад

      @@enderchau954 I guess ice types are more for hyper offense rather than offense, nevermind then.

  • @pantslesswrock
    @pantslesswrock 24 дня назад +4

    For breakfast today I made a basic egg and cheese sandwich.

    • @Beast_the_smash_guy
      @Beast_the_smash_guy 24 дня назад +1

      Bread, toast, bagel? What was it on! The world needs to know

    • @pantslesswrock
      @pantslesswrock 24 дня назад

      @@Beast_the_smash_guy Ah right, I forgot about bagel sandwiches. This was two pieces of mid-shelf sourdough! Butter was also involved.

  • @jeffethegamingadvocate2821
    @jeffethegamingadvocate2821 24 дня назад +3

    12:29 personally I would hate to be hit by a guyro ball

  • @dethiamthelaw1353
    @dethiamthelaw1353 24 дня назад +28

    In competitive Pokémon there is a spectrum that team styles fall into

    • @patw2137
      @patw2137 24 дня назад +2

      Fall onto*

    • @sekaihunter9378
      @sekaihunter9378 24 дня назад +3

      ​@@patw2137 Gramar police detected! I repete, grammar police detectted!

    • @Emilia-_.
      @Emilia-_. 24 дня назад +2

      @@sekaihunter9378*repeat

    • @Emilia-_.
      @Emilia-_. 24 дня назад +2

      @@sekaihunter9378*Grammar

    • @Emilia-_.
      @Emilia-_. 24 дня назад +2

      @@sekaihunter9378*detected

  • @Neverleterlun
    @Neverleterlun 24 дня назад +1

    Enlightening video as always Mr Cool. We truly appreciate the daily videos. However I am here once again asking for your support in shining light on Raichu and other forgotten evolutions on behalf of the F.E.A. Thank you for your time and the great content.

  • @Luigiman59able
    @Luigiman59able 23 дня назад

    God I love the way he says “Encore”

  • @triviszla1536
    @triviszla1536 24 дня назад

    Great analysis - best of luck to magcargo

  • @Maxderdachs
    @Maxderdachs 24 дня назад +1

    In Gen1, I got to 1500 with three boomers (Eggy Gengar Snorlax) combined with Alkazam, Tauros and swapping out Chansey for Persian. But I guess that would count as Hyper Offensive already.

  • @sayonqlo
    @sayonqlo 24 дня назад

    Jinx Gen 2 offense is one of the most underrated team styles

  • @masterrdf418
    @masterrdf418 24 дня назад +4

    Arriving at “No views” is crazy

  • @StylishGaz
    @StylishGaz 23 дня назад

    You should cover all tiers as well as OU. It would be super interesting

  • @itsjustjude_
    @itsjustjude_ 24 дня назад

    Best way to start my mornings istg🤣🤟🏽

  • @tarkusvontortellini1877
    @tarkusvontortellini1877 24 дня назад +1

    Gen 4 Scizor forever in my heart

  • @MarcAnderMiao
    @MarcAnderMiao 24 дня назад +4

    will gen 10 give us less offense and more love?

  • @moyai5317
    @moyai5317 24 дня назад +4

    Some gen 1 teams also doesnt use chansey to be more offensive

    • @compositeur8455
      @compositeur8455 24 дня назад

      What do you use over chansey?

    • @moyai5317
      @moyai5317 24 дня назад

      @@compositeur8455 alakazam i think

  • @jessemelder1607
    @jessemelder1607 24 дня назад

    Big Jim! I’ve lately been enjoying your content and see you like running odd ball teams once in a while, one of my favorite mons was a tauros I had back in the day named Bodacious, and I was wondering if you’d like to run a set with one, maybe a CB set with fighting coverage for Tar, Bliss, Lax?

  • @oscen335
    @oscen335 24 дня назад +2

    "Offense is just a spectrum, right, bro?"

  • @cainformerlyhinja
    @cainformerlyhinja 24 дня назад +1

    for gen 1 teams, eggy is (if you're skilled enough with team building) a good replacement for chansey due to both of them posessing dual status

  • @TheAngryBare
    @TheAngryBare 24 дня назад

    Gen 1 Jinx managed to be it's own unique brand of offensive.

  • @ProjectThunderclaw
    @ProjectThunderclaw 24 дня назад

    Oh boy. At 1:51 there's footage of Dragonite taking out Clefable with Outrage. That doesn't feel right any more

  • @JamesRBroklin
    @JamesRBroklin 24 дня назад +1

    What an offensive video, folks.

  • @Owl-yc2yu
    @Owl-yc2yu 24 дня назад

    Hey Jimothy, I know Hoen Gaiden exists but I'd be interested in your opinion on what the most barebones changes to adv ou to "improve" it would be.

  • @JavierGomez-px8xh
    @JavierGomez-px8xh 24 дня назад

    Orangurus offensive madness

  • @oissu7
    @oissu7 24 дня назад

    Hello! Dropping chansey for a more offensive special attacker is definitely an option for more aggressive teams.

  • @robertb6889
    @robertb6889 24 дня назад +2

    Jynx is certainly a well known offensive Pokémon - if you remember that controversy.

  • @tstark2086
    @tstark2086 24 дня назад +16

    In competitive Pokémon, players are on the spectrum.

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 24 дня назад

    Why not psycho cut on mega medicham? Slightly less bass power but I think it has better accuracy and better critical hit ratio

  • @Blue_chess007
    @Blue_chess007 24 дня назад +3

    Uploaded 3 min ago 😅
    Hello Jim

  • @screechingtoad2683
    @screechingtoad2683 24 дня назад

    What's in-between balance and stall?

  • @nicolasromani3523
    @nicolasromani3523 24 дня назад

    I like gen 6 more than gen 7 tbh because i do not love Z moves dealing some damage through protect or the Ultra Beasts and Magearna running rampant...oh, there's also Toxapex wich unsurprisingly is a very toxic wall. However i still enjoy that meta purely because i love the Tapus.

  • @Weavileiscool
    @Weavileiscool 24 дня назад

    I have to know what’s been going on with the infamous Iron Mugulis

  • @bradyanderson1229
    @bradyanderson1229 24 дня назад

    Jimothy, where is your coverage of Generation 10?

  • @Infinnite01
    @Infinnite01 24 дня назад

    13:59 is punishment that popular on gen 5 sets of landorus-T? Don't really see it ever at all in later games as a move you'd want to use competitively.

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  24 дня назад +1

      that's to hit a boosted up Reuniclus.

  • @spanner5686
    @spanner5686 24 дня назад

    I thought this was about Offensive Pokémon in Comp

  • @emilipdh3141
    @emilipdh3141 24 дня назад

    I see no one talking about landorus-T using punishment

  • @loganrenfrow2544
    @loganrenfrow2544 22 дня назад

    Why did the Landorus run Tera Dragon?

  • @Arzikl
    @Arzikl 24 дня назад

    Uploaded 58 seconds ago 😮😮😮😮

  • @Hchris101
    @Hchris101 23 дня назад

    I like Pokémon

  • @iatedhamster
    @iatedhamster 24 дня назад

    Jlimothy cool ate my hamster

  • @matskubatsku
    @matskubatsku 24 дня назад

    Horse council civil war > One Piece 🥶🥶

  • @mrnicesimplol8436
    @mrnicesimplol8436 24 дня назад

    Only 117 Subs… Magcargo probably doesn’t appreciate all these people horsing around

  • @randomstuffiknow3306
    @randomstuffiknow3306 22 дня назад

    Do I generate horsepower by being a long term subscriber?

  • @tecul1
    @tecul1 24 дня назад +1

    max spa av toxapex goes on these teams

  • @apiratcc
    @apiratcc 24 дня назад +11

    I accept every team style EXCEPT STALL

    • @Imitationist
      @Imitationist 24 дня назад

      Fuck Tele stall

    • @KillerOfWhales
      @KillerOfWhales 24 дня назад +3

      Booooooo stall good

    • @enderchau954
      @enderchau954 24 дня назад +1

      Fun fact, you could turn 16 stall if played against properly

    • @CMSonYT
      @CMSonYT 12 дней назад

      Stall is great.

  • @Ai-jr4ou
    @Ai-jr4ou 24 дня назад

    Bully offense though…

  • @brieoconnor9824
    @brieoconnor9824 24 дня назад

    I thought 'offense' was in quotes because you were talking about blackface jynx being offensive