Caesar from the Planet of the Apes reboot trilogy is such a well written male character with flaws that don’t diminish his character.. but strengthens his arc from a viewer’s pov.
Definitely! I think he’s such a great representation of a well written character with depth! Hopefully in the future we will get more characters like him 🤞
Reacher is one of the few guys / male / characters / shows that really can be named as Strong Male Character , not just because of his muscles ( the guy is a tank ) , but also his personality , his braveness and his courage
I definitely agree! It’s a show that I really need to watch most of my family has watched it and say it’s amazing. A perfect example of a well written character thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ! ☺️
Rocky Balboa is by far my favorite strong male character. He never loses the physically imposing masculine "archetype" for male leads of that period, while also being mature enough to admit his mistakes and grow as a person because of them. He's never written in such a way that he needs to rescue his wife, but instead relies on her for his inner strength and motivation. He is secure enough in his own sense of masculinity to regard her as his true partner in every sense of the word... acknowledging more than once that he couldn't have achieved what he has without her.
It’s a cycle At the beginning of Hollywood the character were normal everyday people Then during golden age they became larger than life Then Hollywood collapsed and 70s they focused on gritty life of normal people Then 80s was return of big strong characters And that cycle continued… Also the male character often reflect the period we are living so in times of unrest like 70s you are more likely to see character study movies rather than big budget movies
@@ShubhamSingh-v6y I think superhero movies died down during 2020 period so probably 2030 and beyond we might see a return Ofc there are some exceptions we have seen that with Spider-Man and Deadpool
I thought Top Gun: Maverick was a really nice, refreshing movie because it felt like that classic 'dude film', but both Mav and Rooster weren't too far in either direction of being written for just men or just women.
Honestly I want to see more male characters like Tommy Shelby or Wick who always seem to know what to do and don’t flinch in the face of hardship. But I wouldn’t really worry about lack of male characters like this, when the big mouse and other companies see that people have no interest in characters with the depth of a wet cardboard, and they are bleeding money from these kinds of projects, they hopefully will wise up and change their tune
Definitely! Tommy Shelby is one of my favourite characters of recent the depth he had to his character you couldn’t help but feel and understand him no matter how outrageous his actions could be the fact that he is also played by such an incredible actor really shows how a good written character can become so powerful when being played by someone who is so talented I think homelander is another example of this! I agree hopefully we can get some more characters like this in the future, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
@@AbbieRee exactly. I don’t necessarily even want strong male characters, just ones that make sense and are not one note and always butt of the joke. Pardon the rant, but how do you take Thor Odinson a literal God and bring him down so much and bungle his character so bad and so comically(no pun intended) that another Thor in a game franchise becomes ten times better than a mcu Thor who has been in the movies for more than a decade, despite the fact that GoW Thor was in the games like a couple of hours at most. Honestly, at this point I just want writers who want to mix ideology in their writing, learn from masters of this shit and layer that ideology deeper and more subtly.
I'm a woman, and I LOVE the badass masculine men. James Bond is too suave for me, I love the Wolverine and Sabretooth types. The feral characters that'll cagefight and win every time through sheer muscle power, oooooo, I love those.
I think this is why I love Tarantinos characters because he doesn't write them as being stereotypically male or female. He's able to write a hyper masculine man such as Cliff Booth in once upon a time in Hollywood. In the same movie you have a man whos more in touch with his feelings like Rick Dalton who's a far more anxious character than his best friend. On the opposite side you have Jennifer Jason Leigh who is the only woman in the hateful eight but in the context of the film she's a psychopath in a room full of psychopaths.
i think what we are getting is men writing male characters the way they think females would want/write them. New viewer and i`m digging the content ! Keep up the great work !
Stallone's characters always connect with me if we are talking specifically about "strong male characters" but I think that's because he's allowed to break down and feel at points. That was the first grown strong man I ever saw CRY. But not even cry, I mean full on WEEP. I also like Captain Jack Sparrow for how he plays with sort of being an androgynous character. 🎉
Aragon and Sam from the Lord of the Rings are two of my favorites. They're both amazing examples of strong, well written characters, with Aragon being a tough hardened ranger who can let down his guard and show vulnerability, and Sam being almost the opposite, someone who may not necessarily be seen as the most "masculine" character but shows strength and pure determination when his moment comes.
Exactly! When I think of the lord of the rings they are definitely two of the characters that stand out the most for me! The lord of the rings had so many wonderfully written characters and storylines. Great choice thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Thank you so much for the support! Definitely agree I love Peter Parker! Such an wonderfully written character thank you for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Keep doing what you're doing, Abbie! I am enjoying your perspectives and commentary. My favorite "strong male character" growing up was Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen) from Lord of the Rings. The epitome of the adventure hero who goes on an epic quest to defeat evil, lead a kingdom, and marry the beauty.
Thank you so much for the support, I’m so glad your enjoying the content! Oh definitely great choice I loved his character he really was so well written along with a lot of them from the lord of the rings ! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic I really appreciate it ☺️
I would suggest a large part of the issues with modern cinema and television (heck modern entertainment in general) is that the writers are portraying the characters as immature masculine and feminine, they act and behave like adults who have aged but not grown, and even then they are not what would be the ideal versions of the boy and girl archetypes, what would be called in the Jungian psychology as the incomplete versions.
Great take, that would make a lot of sense! The fact that you say “they act and behave like adults who have aged and not grown” says a lot about some characters in recent media! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic!
I think my favorite male character is the one my girlfriend is developing for her animated show. I am helping her write it and he truly does strike the perfect balance between the male and female gaze thing. He is strong and capable and flawed and gets upset and apologizes and works on himself. If we get to release multiple episodes like we have discussed I truly hope men like me can have a great character to look up to that has realistic flaws and can change but still be everything we enjoy about men at the same time.
I enjoyed your perspective on this topic to answer your question "favorite strong male character?" For me it would have to be "Sanjuro" if this name is not familiar check out a film called "Yojimbo" obviously this a foreign film and isn't actually a Hollywood strong male character and you are looking for someone in Hollywood I would have to say (Marlon Brando)Vito Corleone/(Sean Connery) James Bond
Oh I haven’t seen that film yet! Sounds really interesting! Yes definitely James Bond is so iconic perfect examples thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic I really appreciate it ☺️
Although he’s in the thumbnail and in a few clips through the video, a great example of the “strong male character” who hasn’t been brought up in these comments is, in my opinion, Indiana Jones. Although most of Harrison Ford’s performances have been able to capture that balance of the “traditional hero” attributes we expect with a trademark sense of vulnerability and relatability at times, I feel like Dr. Jones has been his most successful performance in this regard.
My favorite SMCs are Captain Picard from Star Trek: TNG, Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid, and Maximus from Gladiator. They all, in some shape or form, embody a lot of masculine virtues and ideals to which I aspire. Most of all, they maintain very positive and productive thinking patterns even in the most trying of times, and they place principles above their passions.
@@AbbieReeCheers! I'm a big fan of Stoic philosophy but not the vernacular form (as in someone unemotional like Judge Dredd although Dredd is a guilty pleasure of mine), but more like someone who just thinks very positively and productively (like Mr. Miyagi, and similar to a Zen Buddhist). They might not cry very often yet not because they repress their negative thoughts and emotions, but because they think very positively. They're very mature characters, so to speak, and mentors in their own right. I really like these types of characters a lot but I'm missing them a lot in recent media. Some quotes I really like: >> Never put passion before principle. Even if you win, you lose. -- Mr. Miyagi >> It's okay to lose to opponent. Must not lose to fear. -- Mr. Miyagi >> It's possible to make no mistakes and still lose. That's is not a weakness. That's life. -- Picard >> If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for who we really are. -- Picard >> Whatever comes out of these gates, we have a better chance of survival if we work together. -- Maximus >> What we do in life echoes for eternity. -- Maximus (but quoting Marcus Aurelius from Stoicism) I dig this a lot. 😅 There are so few characters like this I find today, male or female.
I would say Michael Corleone. For me, Michael is like a classical tragic figure. While he is incredibly intelligent and calculating, it is his desire for revenge that ultimately destroys him and his family
Perfect example! The depth of his character makes him unique as if you never truly know what he’s thinking. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
I think Marty Mcfly is a great example of a "strong male character" cause sure he isnt built like a mountain, but no matter what he always gets back up and gets the job done
Has to be Lee Everett from the telltale walking dead video game adaptation I going to navigate away spoiler territory but The way he acts and conduct himself and the converses with other characters and the way he grows with story is just amazing One of my favorite video game protagonist of all time if you haven’t . I really recommend playing the first episode it’s free too
This might seem weird but Wikus from District 9 is the first that comes to mind. He's wimpy, scrawny and commits some atrocities to the aliens. He's overall flawed and lacks a spine but he learns to adapt to his situation and is honest about his sins. The film did a good job making me believe that he could accomplish what he later does in the film. He's not stereotypically manly like the villains but he didn't need to be.
Nice video! Jack was written by ultra macho James Cameron.Cameron is so secure in his manliness he have no problem, in fact loves writing strong female characters. Ripley in Aliens was a wonderful protagonist.
not sure it counts but my favorite strong male character is RDJ as Sherock Holmes, though he's also great as Iron Man, i also just think strong doesn't have to mean muscular or overconfident for either gender
In general, it's usually a male antagonist at every level to the female and male protagonist. So when there's bad writing, the assymetry goes one way when noticed
Not my favourite male character but favourite Gosling's character has to be from the movie "Lars and the Real Girl". Honestly, not many people talk about this character.
I haven’t seen him in that ( I was sure I had seen all his films!! ) I will have to check it out ryan gosling is such a powerhouse anything he tends to be in is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
I miss cool villains. I’ve always loved Darth Vader, & Anakin in the prequels. Probably my favorite male character from a movie. Villains in modern movies just don’t feel as threatening as older ones like him. I also appreciate that with context you can see the natural progression of him turning throughout the series. I want more strong men, but I also want more men with interesting & well written arcs & development. Ken is a funny example for that lol.
I love a good villain! Darth Vader is so iconic a good villain is so entertaining to watch one of my favourite’s from recent media is homelander as he is just so interesting to watch you can’t help but love to hate him. It would be so great to see some different types of male characters in the future I wanted to stick Ken in here somewhere 😂 Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts !
elijah mikaelson's character arc in The Originals was one of the best ive ever seen, how his essence changed throughout the seasons. thomas shelby and joe from blade runner, these characters have such depth that many of us can connect to them, i mean certain aspects of their character like thomas shelby's thinking ,that he has "extra" time after they all survived in the war, this thinking makes him fearless but not immune to other emotions , i think thats beautiful. idk if you've read the six of crows, the character of kaz brekker is somewhat similar to thomas, wont spoil it for you, but the will of this man, ambition, these things inspires me to do more. and Batman, any potrayal , comics and movies both, batman is just something that we all wanna achieve in life in some sense, in some part of our life. its not just about being masculine, having muscles, its about the mindset
Yes definitely I used to have an The originals fan account 😆 and I edited Elijah a lot he is an incredible example he really grew into the character and storyline like you said I loved his dynamic with klaus! Tommy Shelby will always be one of my favourite characters from recent media the amount of depth his character had was amazing to watch no matter what he did you couldn’t help but not hate him. I haven’t read that but I will have to check it out! Sounds really interesting. Great example of Batman he’s another well thought out character. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts
@@AbbieRee if you plan on reading six of crows ,its a duology, but there are 3 books before it in the same universe, so i'd suggest to look up the summary of the 1st 3 books of the grishaverse, and yes klaus, i didn't mention him cause his redemption took the center stage, his arc is good too, and the actors *chef's kiss, legacies was a bit letdown after tvd and the originals
@@younglingslayer4520 okay will have to check that out! I didn’t watch legacies but i think it’s very hard to keep a show going that has changed so much from the core of what tvd and to we’re!
ah! I love Dean he’s such a great example he had so much depth and progression as a character from the pilot to the final. Perfect example! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Men like male heroes they want to be, women like male heroes they want to be with. The lack of strong masculine male heroes is part of why so many new movies are not getting an audience anymore. Most men and women want to see strong masculine heroes.
Great to see you back. Saul from better call Saul was a modern male character I really enjoyed. But yeah I don't see many manly men in modern media. I hope all is well on your end. Best wishes always 🤍.
Hey! So glad to be back, oh yes such an interesting and entertaining character! I loved the whole breaking bad and spin offs the series are full with incredibly well written characters. Hope you have a great day thank you for sharing your thoughts ☀️
@@AbbieRee I still can't believe your channel has not blown up yet. You're so smart and a genuine beautiful person inside and out. I look forward to seeing whatever you do next . Your fan - Luciana 🤍
Welcome back! This was a nice surprise to see in my YT recommends. I think the most important strong male character, apart from physical virtue, is a great degree of stoic self-control. Bond exemplifies that balance well, especially Daniel Craig's performances, so I'll pick him as a favorite. Within this spectrum would also be someone like Mr. Rogers, who - while not a fictional character - had a screen presentation of healthy masculinity that isn't an action hero. A strong man, to me, isn't a violent one, but one who is capable of using violence in defense when called to. It's also a father who knows that a child can learn more from scratching a knee than from someone telling them to stop running before they hurt themselves. He is close enough to protect against real danger, but equips those around him to learn to protect themselves. These are my favorite archetypes of male characters. Cheers for now!
Interesting and well thought out video, Abbie, the reason why I like your channel and subscribed. Answering today's topic, well, there are many interesting characters that I like, but right now I would say Joel Miller from The Last of Us (the game, not the TV show!) Joel in the game is such an interesting character because he has the perfect balance between being a strong survivor, a hardened killer and a sensible human being at the same time. He is tough when he has to be but very gentle with the people he trusts and love. His interactions with Sarah, Tess and Ellie are the most obvious cases, but also his relationship with his little brother Tommy was one I felt quite genuine and moving as a kid brother myself.... Also, the way he interacts with Bill after finding Bill's dead partner was very low key but surprisingly gentle from Joel's point of view. Joel is a character that has suffered the same deconstructive treatment of most male characters in recent times, but only eleven years ago, when The Last of Us came out, he was a great character that had the perfect balance between strong masculinity and gentleness, the main reason why he is such a popular character for both male and female fans. And Joel is not the only good character that came out during the first decade of the 2000. We have other characters like Daniel Craig's version of Bond, or Eddard Stark in Game of Thrones, or Damon Salvatore in The Vampire Diaries, or Maximus in The Gladiator, all of these characters that, in my opinion, had a good balance between strength and sensibility, because prior to that, many of these characters could lack sensibility and compassion, and today, almost all of them lack strength and conviction, but back at the beginning of the 2000s, novelists, movie makers and video game designers had achieved the perfect balance. We should look back to those characters and learn from them....
Thank you so much for the support, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Wow where do I start you made some excellent points and observations! Like you said in comparison to a lot of characters in the 2000s or prior there’s seems to be something off with the recent portrayal of male characters. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
Jackie Chan….has persistently been a great ‘strong’ male character for nearly 40years and he’s so deserving of some assessment. But he’s often ignored by people looking into this type of thing, because… well y’know
Difficult to pick a single one. Lord of the Rings is chalk full of fantastic male role models. But Aragorn is an all time favorite of mine from LotR. Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke is another big one for me.
@@Shikatsuyatsuke so many great suggestions! Lord of the rings is absolutely packed full of incredibly well written characters each one is so powerful and has there own set of strengths and weaknesses! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
Great video as always Abbie! I’m actually having a hard time picking a favourite strong male character. I feel a lot of movies I’ve watched recently have been about men going through a struggle or trying to discover themselves in their world, whether in a Tarkovsky film by devoting themselves to religion in search of truth in the darkness or in a Bergman film devoting themselves to women for love and comfort against the worries of death and time, then seeing their folly, only falling apart with them knowing all the while they cannot worship their way out of being who they truly are by following another deity or giving themselves over entirely to another. In that sense Chiron in Moonlight always felt that way, of not knowing and going through the pain and coming out the other side the exact representation of what he thought a strong man was from his childhood and became the very essence and embodiment of that in every way from physically to emotionally; only for the ending (SPOILERS) to say the truth of how he felt all along to the man he loves about when they were young and mean it, not hiding but standing by his words and actions. I feel it is the small things we miss, especially nowadays in films where they are so big that such trifles and woes like that where one goes through are overshadowed by the need to save the world and conquer or kill another, compared to the need to do right by others in all the small ways of life. Leading to the need for the embodiment of a strong man and to see it clearly and become a carbon copy of it or to follow the wrong path of a relationship to define who we are through the tropes and stereotypes, only to see that we become the opposite and sacrifice everything to be what we think is what a strong man is instead of seeing who we are inside, then to speak it without regret and love. So, Geralt of Rivia is my favourite male character. Thanks for taking the time to upload, looking forward to the next video!
Thank you so much for the support! I really appreciate it. Wow where do I start you covered so many topics with great examples and explanations, like you said I think the small things are being overlooked in recent films/shows and characters can be more predictable have less depth to them than they once had. Let’s hope in the future we will get some more interesting and well developed characters 🤞 I loved Gerald he definitely is one of the most interesting characters from recent media Henry Cavil did such an excellent job of portraying him, I’m interested in seeing what Liam Hemsworth will do ☺️ Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts
The fact that i watched a clip from The Expendables and the Fast and Furious franchise and thought both characters that Jason Statham played were the same character is proof that he really does play himself in movies 😂
You need more female audience for your channel, but that doesn't mean you don't need MEN 🤣🤣🤣 My favorite (unironically) strong male characters. Daredevil (Netflix version only) is a good one. Hobbie from across the Spiderverse is an interesting one because he exudes confidence, but he understands his role as a supporter of the youth (e.g., I support my drummer) and ultimately lets other people shine.
I like my men a little on the darker side. Rust Cohle, Jim 'Gard' Gardener, Heathcliff, Winston Smith, Thomas Shelby, perhaps even Professor Snape. To name a few. The more traditional masculine characters have never appealed to me. Why? Probably because I'm too narcissistic for my own good and need to relate to them somehow. They tend to be simple, stoic, and very sure of themselves, traits which I have never possessed. Nor have I ever known men like this. A modern example is Jack Reacher. I've watched some of the show and read a few of the novels. I understand the appeal to an extent, as in it's pure entertainment. Pop corn fiction. But these characters are too far removed from reality for my personal tastes. The percentage of men in Western society who are like Jack Reacher must be astronomically low. Love the casual vibes of your content by the way.
Definitely! Like you said these characters feel more human and are much more entertaining as there are so many levels to them. Some excellent examples. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it! I’m glad you enjoy the content ☺️
While I find him to be morally reprehensible, I think the written character of Lester Nygaard in Season 1 of Fargo to be really interesting to watch - he's a character that really covets the idea of traditional masculinity, but even as he gradually believes himself to have achieved it (albeit through psychopathic means), whenever actually confronted he quickly loses the facade.
@@AbbieRee I think Season one of Fargo in particular is an example of an extremely effective use of ensemble. The show handles cynical humor and delicate stakes really well, and presents this terrific tone of a snowballing butterfly effect to the extreme. It's very fun, admittedly at points a little indulgent, but ultimately a great little chunk of TV.
Tom hanks in cast away. His just a delivery guy for fedex but he manages to survive on an island for 4 years. Deals with deep isolation. Builds a raft. Only to get home and find everything is lost including himself and yet he carries on. That is strength. Andy defrain is another one that comes to mind from the shawshank redemption.
hy im a dude, we watched Barbie to make fun of it. And also the way it was done and the way that it corrupts the weird toxic gender propaganda helps it
I think the culture will shift before the decade is over because Hollywood can't keep hiring leftist activist instead of talented creators if they want to make money. Disney lost a lot of money with Dial of Destiny and even MCU movies/shows are losing money. I don't need my male characters to be perfect or tough in every situation, but I don't like the trend of making them all look like punchlines. It was hard to watch Indiana Jones in Dial being told what piece of s@it he was for over 2 hours and Ford at 80 was just too damn old anyway. My favorite male characters would be Chief Brody from Jaws 1 and 2, Indy from the original trilogy, Doc Brown from Back to the Future, Dirty Harry and John McClane from Die Hard.
Wowww an excellent point of view rn Hollywood in taking into consideration both roles and women are being supported a little bit more and men not so much hehehe
Maybe I am to optomistic but I don't think we are lacking in strong male characters more so that Strong Female character lead movies feel the need to not have any strong male characters along with them which is something strong male lead character movies in recent years don't seem to suffer from. Mad Max Furry, Black Panther, Logan, and many many others have decent strong male leads with strong supporting female character. Yet with female lead movies its harder to say, while there are still plenty of great movies staring strong female leads with strong male supporting characters such as Alita, Wonder Woman, Blue Eye Samurai, and Arcane. There are also a lot of movies that seem to need to demonize or embarrass male characters in one way or another such as She Hulk, Captian Marvel, Black Widow and many others. Thats where I think the "Decline" is coming from, not from a lack of strong male characters but active hostility to that type of characters and Hostility gathers more attention in discussion. On my channel the better performing videos are the ones where I complain about something instead of complimenting, I assume this is because conflict is more interesting. As to your final question though I would say my favorite Male character is Stannis Baratheon, a cold hard unflinching man who will stay to his values no matter what even if its objectively the wrong thing to do. Though if I need to pick someone more recent then I will go with honestly Puss in boots in the Last wish. Loved the character when I was younger and that movie just lit a fire under me.
Great points! I agree in most films the female and male characters are equal and together not overshadowing one another and have their own roles and storylines that make them independent and strong! I mainly see this un balanced portrayal in some films but not many like you said more in the marvel movies. I will definitely have to check out some of your videos, Puss in the boots will always be iconic thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this topic its great hearing other’s opinions ☺️
I need to challenge your position on this, there were tons of silly male characters in rom coms where women are the lead in the 80s and 90s. Also the public has had a massive outcry for relatable characters both male and female, then you also have to keep in mind that leading actors dont push ticket sales anymore Franchises do. Fast Five has a ton of side female leads but the whole show is bad but it still makes money and many actions films from the past were scene this way. Also , Cavil is a massive hypocrite he talks about the witcher moving from the books while at the same time acting in Man of Steel a movie where Superman fans made clear the cynical take on Superman has nothing to do with the books. Please becareful and do not fall down this rabbit hole of anti- "insert political opinion here" be aware of non-critical people
Interesting to hear you've been listening to Critical Drinker too - despite his persona of a drunken Scotsman, he has some of the most observant videos on RUclips. There's also a few female RUclipsrs who examine these kinds of cultural trends in media, including NerdWorld, Vex Electronica and Baggage Claim, the latter of whom recently posted a great little video on the current state of masculinity in our culture today that you might find interesting: ruclips.net/video/000EIZ7k-qk/видео.html Myself, I like a mix of masculine characters, and ideally, they should be somewhere in the middle between the extremes - a man who is confident, masculine and decisive, but also thoughtful and not afraid of softer feelings. The character of Aragorn from Lord of the Rings is a perfect example of 'non-toxic masculinity' - the alpha male as father, husband, brother, son, provider and protector. Here's a great video on why he's ideal for the role: ruclips.net/video/GruFzUsKddI/видео.html
Wow thank you so much for the suggestions i love finding new RUclipsrs to watch! It is such an interesting topic that needs to be explored more! Like you said the lord of the rings had so many great examples of strong and well written characters. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
we lost a lot male character. and the new ones hmm lets just say are forgetteble or if you are remember them are on the older side like keanu reeves as john wick. they dont have catchphrases or are funny but not waititi funny like the thor movies . i mean dirty harry, die hard or indiana jones. i hope for the best in the future but lets be real it doesnt look good.
Definitely! They didn’t have to “entertain” they were just themselves not over dramatic but deep it made the little things they did more impactful and interesting. Great examples ! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
Arnold's Conan the Barbarian is my most liked man in film. There are other manlymen in films like Jason and the Argonauts and Clash of the Titans, but none stand out in my mind like Conan. I would like for my future sons to see him. Myself, I saw Indiana Jones as a child and it influenced me, but I don't want my children to see it.
Favorite male character could be literally almost any movie with Alain Delon or Charles Bronson. Both were actors that relied almost entirely on physical presence and acted like guy like Clint Eastwood talked too much. Ryan Gosling in Drive is just Nicolas Winding Refn doing a hipster version of those guys, specifically Delon in Le Samourai, and selling Gosling before revealing him as a monster. The thing with male characters is not that they were more realistic back when. Nothing is realistic about Sylvester Stallone or Harrison Ford. The difference was that it was understood those movies were not going to bring in female film watchers. They were written as male power fantasies. The new Daniel Craig Bond films are an example of this failure. He's technically more realistic in that he fails in every movie and women even turn him down. No man is going to see James Bond for that. Making him look like a British Essex club bouncer is also equally miscalculated. Hollywood is running on the idea that women have more disposable income but that doesnt mean that you abandon half the human population in search of an audience.
My favourite is Bond , James Bond . But the problem is that the new 007 isn't gonna order vodka martini shaken not stirred , instead it's gonna be a milkshake with rainbow colours and a slice of woke pronouns. 😢
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Caesar from the Planet of the Apes reboot trilogy is such a well written male character with flaws that don’t diminish his character.. but strengthens his arc from a viewer’s pov.
I have to admit I haven’t seen the reboot. Sounds great! What were your thoughts on it? Thank you for your comment ☺️
Caesar's arc goes hard. Extremely well rounded character in all movies.
Aragorn Son of Arathorn from LOTR my favorite male character. And it is especially sad that there will be fewer and fewer such characters
Definitely! I think he’s such a great representation of a well written character with depth! Hopefully in the future we will get more characters like him 🤞
agreed
Reacher is one of the few guys / male / characters / shows that really can be named as Strong Male Character , not just because of his muscles ( the guy is a tank ) , but also his personality , his braveness and his courage
I definitely agree! It’s a show that I really need to watch most of my family has watched it and say it’s amazing. A perfect example of a well written character thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ! ☺️
Rocky Balboa is by far my favorite strong male character. He never loses the physically imposing masculine "archetype" for male leads of that period, while also being mature enough to admit his mistakes and grow as a person because of them. He's never written in such a way that he needs to rescue his wife, but instead relies on her for his inner strength and motivation. He is secure enough in his own sense of masculinity to regard her as his true partner in every sense of the word... acknowledging more than once that he couldn't have achieved what he has without her.
It’s a cycle
At the beginning of Hollywood the character were normal everyday people
Then during golden age they became larger than life
Then Hollywood collapsed and 70s they focused on gritty life of normal people
Then 80s was return of big strong characters
And that cycle continued…
Also the male character often reflect the period we are living so in times of unrest like 70s you are more likely to see character study movies rather than big budget movies
Btw if it's really a cycle. Can you tell me when we are again gonna see the era of larger than life hero movies again.
@@ShubhamSingh-v6y I think superhero movies died down during 2020 period so probably 2030 and beyond we might see a return
Ofc there are some exceptions we have seen that with Spider-Man and Deadpool
@@HoussamNekkaa btw I wasn't talking about superheroes. I was actually talking about traditional larger than life macho mens .....
I thought Top Gun: Maverick was a really nice, refreshing movie because it felt like that classic 'dude film', but both Mav and Rooster weren't too far in either direction of being written for just men or just women.
Honestly I want to see more male characters like Tommy Shelby or Wick who always seem to know what to do and don’t flinch in the face of hardship. But I wouldn’t really worry about lack of male characters like this, when the big mouse and other companies see that people have no interest in characters with the depth of a wet cardboard, and they are bleeding money from these kinds of projects, they hopefully will wise up and change their tune
Definitely! Tommy Shelby is one of my favourite characters of recent the depth he had to his character you couldn’t help but feel and understand him no matter how outrageous his actions could be the fact that he is also played by such an incredible actor really shows how a good written character can become so powerful when being played by someone who is so talented I think homelander is another example of this! I agree hopefully we can get some more characters like this in the future, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
@@AbbieRee exactly. I don’t necessarily even want strong male characters, just ones that make sense and are not one note and always butt of the joke. Pardon the rant, but how do you take Thor Odinson a literal God and bring him down so much and bungle his character so bad and so comically(no pun intended) that another Thor in a game franchise becomes ten times better than a mcu Thor who has been in the movies for more than a decade, despite the fact that GoW Thor was in the games like a couple of hours at most. Honestly, at this point I just want writers who want to mix ideology in their writing, learn from masters of this shit and layer that ideology deeper and more subtly.
I'm a woman, and I LOVE the badass masculine men. James Bond is too suave for me, I love the Wolverine and Sabretooth types. The feral characters that'll cagefight and win every time through sheer muscle power, oooooo, I love those.
In general, it seems that mainstream media doesn't know how to write compelling characters anymore, men, women and everything inbetween.
I think this is why I love Tarantinos characters because he doesn't write them as being stereotypically male or female. He's able to write a hyper masculine man such as Cliff Booth in once upon a time in Hollywood. In the same movie you have a man whos more in touch with his feelings like Rick Dalton who's a far more anxious character than his best friend. On the opposite side you have Jennifer Jason Leigh who is the only woman in the hateful eight but in the context of the film she's a psychopath in a room full of psychopaths.
i think what we are getting is men writing male characters the way they think females would want/write them. New viewer and i`m digging the content ! Keep up the great work !
Oh interesting take! Thank you so much I’m glad your enjoying the videos thank you again for the support 🫶
Stallone's characters always connect with me if we are talking specifically about "strong male characters" but I think that's because he's allowed to break down and feel at points. That was the first grown strong man I ever saw CRY. But not even cry, I mean full on WEEP.
I also like Captain Jack Sparrow for how he plays with sort of being an androgynous character. 🎉
John McClane. He's so flawed and he bleeds. So many action heroes never seem to ever get hurt.
Great example! Definitely agree!
Interesting perspectives, my choice has to be Uncle Iroh from Avatar. And great to here from you again 👍🏽
Thank you! I will have to watch avatar! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic !
Aragon and Sam from the Lord of the Rings are two of my favorites. They're both amazing examples of strong, well written characters, with Aragon being a tough hardened ranger who can let down his guard and show vulnerability, and Sam being almost the opposite, someone who may not necessarily be seen as the most "masculine" character but shows strength and pure determination when his moment comes.
Exactly! When I think of the lord of the rings they are definitely two of the characters that stand out the most for me! The lord of the rings had so many wonderfully written characters and storylines. Great choice thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Peter Parker is my favorite and I'm so glad you're back 💓
Thank you so much for the support! Definitely agree I love Peter Parker! Such an wonderfully written character thank you for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Keep doing what you're doing, Abbie! I am enjoying your perspectives and commentary.
My favorite "strong male character" growing up was Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen) from Lord of the Rings. The epitome of the adventure hero who goes on an epic quest to defeat evil, lead a kingdom, and marry the beauty.
Thank you so much for the support, I’m so glad your enjoying the content! Oh definitely great choice I loved his character he really was so well written along with a lot of them from the lord of the rings ! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic I really appreciate it ☺️
So happy you're back. Video's very good. Looking forward to watching more content from you
so glad to be back! thank you so much for the support!
I would suggest a large part of the issues with modern cinema and television (heck modern entertainment in general) is that the writers are portraying the characters as immature masculine and feminine, they act and behave like adults who have aged but not grown, and even then they are not what would be the ideal versions of the boy and girl archetypes, what would be called in the Jungian psychology as the incomplete versions.
Great take, that would make a lot of sense! The fact that you say “they act and behave like adults who have aged and not grown” says a lot about some characters in recent media! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the topic!
I think my favorite male character is the one my girlfriend is developing for her animated show. I am helping her write it and he truly does strike the perfect balance between the male and female gaze thing. He is strong and capable and flawed and gets upset and apologizes and works on himself. If we get to release multiple episodes like we have discussed I truly hope men like me can have a great character to look up to that has realistic flaws and can change but still be everything we enjoy about men at the same time.
My favorite male character in fiction is Captain Malcolm Reynolds.
Oh wow just googled him I’ve never seen the film/series seems like an interesting character!
I enjoyed your perspective on this topic to answer your question "favorite strong male character?" For me it would have to be "Sanjuro" if this name is not familiar check out a film called "Yojimbo" obviously this a foreign film and isn't actually a Hollywood strong male character and you are looking for someone in Hollywood I would have to say (Marlon Brando)Vito Corleone/(Sean Connery) James Bond
Oh I haven’t seen that film yet! Sounds really interesting! Yes definitely James Bond is so iconic perfect examples thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic I really appreciate it ☺️
Although he’s in the thumbnail and in a few clips through the video, a great example of the “strong male character” who hasn’t been brought up in these comments is, in my opinion, Indiana Jones. Although most of Harrison Ford’s performances have been able to capture that balance of the “traditional hero” attributes we expect with a trademark sense of vulnerability and relatability at times, I feel like Dr. Jones has been his most successful performance in this regard.
No, the Indy films are trash.
My favorite SMCs are Captain Picard from Star Trek: TNG, Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid, and Maximus from Gladiator. They all, in some shape or form, embody a lot of masculine virtues and ideals to which I aspire. Most of all, they maintain very positive and productive thinking patterns even in the most trying of times, and they place principles above their passions.
some great examples! thank you for sharing !
@@AbbieReeCheers! I'm a big fan of Stoic philosophy but not the vernacular form (as in someone unemotional like Judge Dredd although Dredd is a guilty pleasure of mine), but more like someone who just thinks very positively and productively (like Mr. Miyagi, and similar to a Zen Buddhist).
They might not cry very often yet not because they repress their negative thoughts and emotions, but because they think very positively. They're very mature characters, so to speak, and mentors in their own right. I really like these types of characters a lot but I'm missing them a lot in recent media.
Some quotes I really like:
>> Never put passion before principle. Even if you win, you lose. -- Mr. Miyagi
>> It's okay to lose to opponent. Must not lose to fear. -- Mr. Miyagi
>> It's possible to make no mistakes and still lose. That's is not a weakness. That's life. -- Picard
>> If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for who we really are. -- Picard
>> Whatever comes out of these gates, we have a better chance of survival if we work together. -- Maximus
>> What we do in life echoes for eternity. -- Maximus (but quoting Marcus Aurelius from Stoicism)
I dig this a lot. 😅 There are so few characters like this I find today, male or female.
I would say Michael Corleone. For me, Michael is like a classical tragic figure. While he is incredibly intelligent and calculating, it is his desire for revenge that ultimately destroys him and his family
Perfect example! The depth of his character makes him unique as if you never truly know what he’s thinking. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
I don't usually like goody two shoes but Steve Rogers makes me respect that quality.
I think Marty Mcfly is a great example of a "strong male character" cause sure he isnt built like a mountain, but no matter what he always gets back up and gets the job done
good to see you back Abbie!
Hey!! I’m so glad to be back if you have any video recommendations I would love to hear them ☀️
@@AbbieRee just posted some :)
@@Fionalah thank you so much!!
Has to be Lee Everett from the telltale walking dead video game adaptation I going to navigate away spoiler territory but The way he acts and conduct himself and the converses with other characters and the way he grows with story is just amazing One of my favorite video game protagonist of all time if you haven’t . I really recommend playing the first episode it’s free too
This might seem weird but Wikus from District 9 is the first that comes to mind.
He's wimpy, scrawny and commits some atrocities to the aliens. He's overall flawed and lacks a spine but he learns to adapt to his situation and is honest about his sins. The film did a good job making me believe that he could accomplish what he later does in the film. He's not stereotypically manly like the villains but he didn't need to be.
Nice video! Jack was written by ultra macho James Cameron.Cameron is so secure in his manliness he have no problem, in fact loves writing strong female characters. Ripley in Aliens was a wonderful protagonist.
The show Bonanza (Little Joe?), and Michael Landon in general. Also David Banner, or the Incredible Hulk series had a deep male character.
not sure it counts but my favorite strong male character is RDJ as Sherock Holmes, though he's also great as Iron Man, i also just think strong doesn't have to mean muscular or overconfident for either gender
I loved Blade growing up and I’m afraid of what Disney will do to him with the new movie
Blade is iconic! Hopefully they will do him well 🤞
In general, it's usually a male antagonist at every level to the female and male protagonist. So when there's bad writing, the assymetry goes one way when noticed
Interesting point! It’s crazy how much good writing can effect a story thank you for being this up !
Not my favourite male character but favourite Gosling's character has to be from the movie "Lars and the Real Girl". Honestly, not many people talk about this character.
I haven’t seen him in that ( I was sure I had seen all his films!! ) I will have to check it out ryan gosling is such a powerhouse anything he tends to be in is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
@@AbbieRee I really feel like this is my favorite Gosling performance and also Gosling's most underrated performance. He plays the character so well.
@@sodhiyam will definitely have to check it out!!
I miss cool villains. I’ve always loved Darth Vader, & Anakin in the prequels. Probably my favorite male character from a movie. Villains in modern movies just don’t feel as threatening as older ones like him. I also appreciate that with context you can see the natural progression of him turning throughout the series. I want more strong men, but I also want more men with interesting & well written arcs & development. Ken is a funny example for that lol.
I love a good villain! Darth Vader is so iconic a good villain is so entertaining to watch one of my favourite’s from recent media is homelander as he is just so interesting to watch you can’t help but love to hate him.
It would be so great to see some different types of male characters in the future I wanted to stick Ken in here somewhere 😂 Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts !
elijah mikaelson's character arc in The Originals was one of the best ive ever seen, how his essence changed throughout the seasons. thomas shelby and joe from blade runner, these characters have such depth that many of us can connect to them, i mean certain aspects of their character like thomas shelby's thinking ,that he has "extra" time after they all survived in the war, this thinking makes him fearless but not immune to other emotions , i think thats beautiful.
idk if you've read the six of crows, the character of kaz brekker is somewhat similar to thomas, wont spoil it for you, but the will of this man, ambition, these things inspires me to do more.
and Batman, any potrayal , comics and movies both, batman is just something that we all wanna achieve in life in some sense, in some part of our life. its not just about being masculine, having muscles, its about the mindset
Yes definitely I used to have an The originals fan account 😆 and I edited Elijah a lot he is an incredible example he really grew into the character and storyline like you said I loved his dynamic with klaus! Tommy Shelby will always be one of my favourite characters from recent media the amount of depth his character had was amazing to watch no matter what he did you couldn’t help but not hate him.
I haven’t read that but I will have to check it out! Sounds really interesting. Great example of Batman he’s another well thought out character. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts
@@AbbieRee if you plan on reading six of crows ,its a duology, but there are 3 books before it in the same universe, so i'd suggest to look up the summary of the 1st 3 books of the grishaverse,
and yes klaus, i didn't mention him cause his redemption took the center stage, his arc is good too, and the actors *chef's kiss, legacies was a bit letdown after tvd and the originals
@@younglingslayer4520 okay will have to check that out!
I didn’t watch legacies but i think it’s very hard to keep a show going that has changed so much from the core of what tvd and to we’re!
@@AbbieRee yeah it changed too much,,
well thanks for taking up this topic though,
For me the SMC has to be dean Winchester from supernatural just the overall writing and character he is a lot of people can resonate with
ah! I love Dean he’s such a great example he had so much depth and progression as a character from the pilot to the final. Perfect example! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
I was going to mention Drive. I’m glad you did.
Silvester Stallone
Keanu Reeves
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Henry Cavill
Jason Statham
Some incredible actors !
Men like male heroes they want to be, women like male heroes they want to be with. The lack of strong masculine male heroes is part of why so many new movies are not getting an audience anymore. Most men and women want to see strong masculine heroes.
Great to see you back. Saul from better call Saul was a modern male character I really enjoyed. But yeah I don't see many manly men in modern media. I hope all is well on your end. Best wishes always 🤍.
Hey! So glad to be back, oh yes such an interesting and entertaining character! I loved the whole breaking bad and spin offs the series are full with incredibly well written characters. Hope you have a great day thank you for sharing your thoughts ☀️
@@AbbieRee I still can't believe your channel has not blown up yet. You're so smart and a genuine beautiful person inside and out. I look forward to seeing whatever you do next . Your fan - Luciana 🤍
@@Luciana_McC_99 bless you! Thank you so much for the support luciana !!
Welcome back! This was a nice surprise to see in my YT recommends. I think the most important strong male character, apart from physical virtue, is a great degree of stoic self-control. Bond exemplifies that balance well, especially Daniel Craig's performances, so I'll pick him as a favorite. Within this spectrum would also be someone like Mr. Rogers, who - while not a fictional character - had a screen presentation of healthy masculinity that isn't an action hero.
A strong man, to me, isn't a violent one, but one who is capable of using violence in defense when called to. It's also a father who knows that a child can learn more from scratching a knee than from someone telling them to stop running before they hurt themselves. He is close enough to protect against real danger, but equips those around him to learn to protect themselves. These are my favorite archetypes of male characters.
Cheers for now!
It’s nice to be back! Definitely great points made! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it ☺️
Interesting and well thought out video, Abbie, the reason why I like your channel and subscribed.
Answering today's topic, well, there are many interesting characters that I like, but right now I would say Joel Miller from The Last of Us (the game, not the TV show!) Joel in the game is such an interesting character because he has the perfect balance between being a strong survivor, a hardened killer and a sensible human being at the same time. He is tough when he has to be but very gentle with the people he trusts and love. His interactions with Sarah, Tess and Ellie are the most obvious cases, but also his relationship with his little brother Tommy was one I felt quite genuine and moving as a kid brother myself.... Also, the way he interacts with Bill after finding Bill's dead partner was very low key but surprisingly gentle from Joel's point of view.
Joel is a character that has suffered the same deconstructive treatment of most male characters in recent times, but only eleven years ago, when The Last of Us came out, he was a great character that had the perfect balance between strong masculinity and gentleness, the main reason why he is such a popular character for both male and female fans.
And Joel is not the only good character that came out during the first decade of the 2000. We have other characters like Daniel Craig's version of Bond, or Eddard Stark in Game of Thrones, or Damon Salvatore in The Vampire Diaries, or Maximus in The Gladiator, all of these characters that, in my opinion, had a good balance between strength and sensibility, because prior to that, many of these characters could lack sensibility and compassion, and today, almost all of them lack strength and conviction, but back at the beginning of the 2000s, novelists, movie makers and video game designers had achieved the perfect balance. We should look back to those characters and learn from them....
Thank you so much for the support, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Wow where do I start you made some excellent points and observations! Like you said in comparison to a lot of characters in the 2000s or prior there’s seems to be something off with the recent portrayal of male characters. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
Indiana Jones
Batman
John Wick
James Bond, although I have no interest in his franchise anymore
Superman
Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke
Jackie Chan….has persistently been a great ‘strong’ male character for nearly 40years and he’s so deserving of some assessment. But he’s often ignored by people looking into this type of thing, because… well y’know
Idk I think one of the most developed male characters is Travis Bickle but my favorite character is probably Captain Willard in Apocalypse now
Definitely an interesting character! Who left you thinking about him long after finishing the movie! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
thanks for not spoiling my films (im ryan gosling btw)
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Yo it's been a while! I like your videos
Ah I know !! I’m so glad to be back thank you so much 🥰
Nothing wrong with the male gaze, or the female gaze (Jack was a great character in Titanic), it's the intersectional gaze that's the problem.
hello everyone! hope your having a wonderful 2024 😝 who's your favourite male character?
Difficult to pick a single one. Lord of the Rings is chalk full of fantastic male role models. But Aragorn is an all time favorite of mine from LotR. Ashitaka from Princess Mononoke is another big one for me.
@@Shikatsuyatsuke so many great suggestions! Lord of the rings is absolutely packed full of incredibly well written characters each one is so powerful and has there own set of strengths and weaknesses! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
Great video as always Abbie!
I’m actually having a hard time picking a favourite strong male character. I feel a lot of movies I’ve watched recently have been about men going through a struggle or trying to discover themselves in their world, whether in a Tarkovsky film by devoting themselves to religion in search of truth in the darkness or in a Bergman film devoting themselves to women for love and comfort against the worries of death and time, then seeing their folly, only falling apart with them knowing all the while they cannot worship their way out of being who they truly are by following another deity or giving themselves over entirely to another.
In that sense Chiron in Moonlight always felt that way, of not knowing and going through the pain and coming out the other side the exact representation of what he thought a strong man was from his childhood and became the very essence and embodiment of that in every way from physically to emotionally; only for the ending (SPOILERS) to say the truth of how he felt all along to the man he loves about when they were young and mean it, not hiding but standing by his words and actions.
I feel it is the small things we miss, especially nowadays in films where they are so big that such trifles and woes like that where one goes through are overshadowed by the need to save the world and conquer or kill another, compared to the need to do right by others in all the small ways of life.
Leading to the need for the embodiment of a strong man and to see it clearly and become a carbon copy of it or to follow the wrong path of a relationship to define who we are through the tropes and stereotypes, only to see that we become the opposite and sacrifice everything to be what we think is what a strong man is instead of seeing who we are inside, then to speak it without regret and love.
So, Geralt of Rivia is my favourite male character.
Thanks for taking the time to upload, looking forward to the next video!
Thank you so much for the support! I really appreciate it. Wow where do I start you covered so many topics with great examples and explanations, like you said I think the small things are being overlooked in recent films/shows and characters can be more predictable have less depth to them than they once had. Let’s hope in the future we will get some more interesting and well developed characters 🤞
I loved Gerald he definitely is one of the most interesting characters from recent media Henry Cavil did such an excellent job of portraying him, I’m interested in seeing what Liam Hemsworth will do ☺️ Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts
The fact that i watched a clip from The Expendables and the Fast and Furious franchise and thought both characters that Jason Statham played were the same character is proof that he really does play himself in movies 😂
I know 😂 ahh, the confusion I have sometimes figuring out if I’ve already seen the film or not! thank you for understanding 😆
Love the editing!
Wow thank you so much I really appreciate it! It means a lot 🥰
My favorites are probably Miles Morales, Peter Parker and Steve Rogers. Hmm, all from CBM
Some great choices! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
You need more female audience for your channel, but that doesn't mean you don't need MEN 🤣🤣🤣
My favorite (unironically) strong male characters. Daredevil (Netflix version only) is a good one. Hobbie from across the Spiderverse is an interesting one because he exudes confidence, but he understands his role as a supporter of the youth (e.g., I support my drummer) and ultimately lets other people shine.
Ah 😂 daredevil is so cool the spider verse is stunning great examples! Thank you so much for the support and sharing your thoughts !
I like my men a little on the darker side. Rust Cohle, Jim 'Gard' Gardener, Heathcliff, Winston Smith, Thomas Shelby, perhaps even Professor Snape. To name a few.
The more traditional masculine characters have never appealed to me. Why? Probably because I'm too narcissistic for my own good and need to relate to them somehow.
They tend to be simple, stoic, and very sure of themselves, traits which I have never possessed. Nor have I ever known men like this.
A modern example is Jack Reacher. I've watched some of the show and read a few of the novels.
I understand the appeal to an extent, as in it's pure entertainment. Pop corn fiction. But these characters are too far removed from reality for my personal tastes.
The percentage of men in Western society who are like Jack Reacher must be astronomically low.
Love the casual vibes of your content by the way.
Definitely! Like you said these characters feel more human and are much more entertaining as there are so many levels to them.
Some excellent examples. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts I really appreciate it! I’m glad you enjoy the content ☺️
Sean Connery !!!!!!
sir James Bond himself!!!
You are really good at this
I’m not sure that’s true 😆 but I’m always learning
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Great choice! I need to watch avatar it’s one on my list to watch !!
While I find him to be morally reprehensible, I think the written character of Lester Nygaard in Season 1 of Fargo to be really interesting to watch - he's a character that really covets the idea of traditional masculinity, but even as he gradually believes himself to have achieved it (albeit through psychopathic means), whenever actually confronted he quickly loses the facade.
Ooh interesting choice! I definitely have to check out the show, what’s your thoughts on it? Thank you for sharing yourI really appreciate it ☺️
@@AbbieRee I think Season one of Fargo in particular is an example of an extremely effective use of ensemble. The show handles cynical humor and delicate stakes really well, and presents this terrific tone of a snowballing butterfly effect to the extreme. It's very fun, admittedly at points a little indulgent, but ultimately a great little chunk of TV.
Tom hanks in cast away. His just a delivery guy for fedex but he manages to survive on an island for 4 years. Deals with deep isolation. Builds a raft. Only to get home and find everything is lost including himself and yet he carries on. That is strength. Andy defrain is another one that comes to mind from the shawshank redemption.
Great example! There is so much depth to his character thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic ☺️
hy im a dude, we watched Barbie to make fun of it. And also the way it was done and the way that it corrupts the weird toxic gender propaganda helps it
I think the culture will shift before the decade is over because Hollywood can't keep hiring leftist activist instead of talented creators if they want to make money. Disney lost a lot of money with Dial of Destiny and even MCU movies/shows are losing money. I don't need my male characters to be perfect or tough in every situation, but I don't like the trend of making them all look like punchlines. It was hard to watch Indiana Jones in Dial being told what piece of s@it he was for over 2 hours and Ford at 80 was just too damn old anyway. My favorite male characters would be Chief Brody from Jaws 1 and 2, Indy from the original trilogy, Doc Brown from Back to the Future, Dirty Harry and John McClane from Die Hard.
Wowww an excellent point of view rn Hollywood in taking into consideration both roles and women are being supported a little bit more and men not so much hehehe
Maybe I am to optomistic but I don't think we are lacking in strong male characters more so that Strong Female character lead movies feel the need to not have any strong male characters along with them which is something strong male lead character movies in recent years don't seem to suffer from.
Mad Max Furry, Black Panther, Logan, and many many others have decent strong male leads with strong supporting female character.
Yet with female lead movies its harder to say, while there are still plenty of great movies staring strong female leads with strong male supporting characters such as Alita, Wonder Woman, Blue Eye Samurai, and Arcane. There are also a lot of movies that seem to need to demonize or embarrass male characters in one way or another such as She Hulk, Captian Marvel, Black Widow and many others.
Thats where I think the "Decline" is coming from, not from a lack of strong male characters but active hostility to that type of characters and Hostility gathers more attention in discussion. On my channel the better performing videos are the ones where I complain about something instead of complimenting, I assume this is because conflict is more interesting.
As to your final question though I would say my favorite Male character is Stannis Baratheon, a cold hard unflinching man who will stay to his values no matter what even if its objectively the wrong thing to do. Though if I need to pick someone more recent then I will go with honestly Puss in boots in the Last wish. Loved the character when I was younger and that movie just lit a fire under me.
Great points! I agree in most films the female and male characters are equal and together not overshadowing one another and have their own roles and storylines that make them independent and strong! I mainly see this un balanced portrayal in some films but not many like you said more in the marvel movies.
I will definitely have to check out some of your videos, Puss in the boots will always be iconic thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this topic its great hearing other’s opinions ☺️
Sold me on the mention of the Drinker. Keep up the great content!
Ah thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed!
0:16 don’t worry they still exist
I just make them but nobody acknowledges
You need to make a movie !!
@@AbbieRee I’m too broke and unskilled to do that unfortunately but I have tons of ideas and concepts on my page and channel
@@AbbieRee I’m too broke and unskilled to do that unfortunately
can your next video be about all the batman movie?
I can definitely work on that! Great idea thank you ☺️
@@AbbieRee No problem big fan of your videos. I sometimes rewatch your videos once in awhile
@@derrickalexander8151 oh wow thank you so much! that means a lot! thank you for the support ☺
I’d say Aragorn is one of the greatest examples of a male hero.
Definitely!
I'll say it that character hasn't flown by that character is still popular and still in dyer want
Also john wick and kingsman
Oh yes !! Great characters John wick is incredibly written and played by the nicest man on earth 😂
@@AbbieRee oh yes indeed, the way he sings a lullaby and sends the bad bad bad people to sleep is very nice of him
you should watch Reacher.
My mum always tells me that 😂 definitely should one I will add to my list!
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Batman. DEFINITELY
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I need to challenge your position on this, there were tons of silly male characters in rom coms where women are the lead in the 80s and 90s. Also the public has had a massive outcry for relatable characters both male and female, then you also have to keep in mind that leading actors dont push ticket sales anymore Franchises do. Fast Five has a ton of side female leads but the whole show is bad but it still makes money and many actions films from the past were scene this way. Also , Cavil is a massive hypocrite he talks about the witcher moving from the books while at the same time acting in Man of Steel a movie where Superman fans made clear the cynical take on Superman has nothing to do with the books. Please becareful and do not fall down this rabbit hole of anti- "insert political opinion here" be aware of non-critical people
I liked Blade Runner but the message was basically "die for the sexbot revolution hero who doesn't matter"
Ooh interesting thought I can see what you mean! It does give that vibe, Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Interesting to hear you've been listening to Critical Drinker too - despite his persona of a drunken Scotsman, he has some of the most observant videos on RUclips. There's also a few female RUclipsrs who examine these kinds of cultural trends in media, including NerdWorld, Vex Electronica and Baggage Claim, the latter of whom recently posted a great little video on the current state of masculinity in our culture today that you might find interesting: ruclips.net/video/000EIZ7k-qk/видео.html
Myself, I like a mix of masculine characters, and ideally, they should be somewhere in the middle between the extremes - a man who is confident, masculine and decisive, but also thoughtful and not afraid of softer feelings. The character of Aragorn from Lord of the Rings is a perfect example of 'non-toxic masculinity' - the alpha male as father, husband, brother, son, provider and protector. Here's a great video on why he's ideal for the role: ruclips.net/video/GruFzUsKddI/видео.html
Wow thank you so much for the suggestions i love finding new RUclipsrs to watch! It is such an interesting topic that needs to be explored more! Like you said the lord of the rings had so many great examples of strong and well written characters. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the topic ☺️
we lost a lot male character. and the new ones hmm lets just say are forgetteble or if you are remember them are on the older side like keanu reeves as john wick. they dont have catchphrases or are funny but not waititi funny like the thor movies . i mean dirty harry, die hard or indiana jones. i hope for the best in the future but lets be real it doesnt look good.
Definitely! They didn’t have to “entertain” they were just themselves not over dramatic but deep it made the little things they did more impactful and interesting. Great examples ! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ☺️
Arnold's Conan the Barbarian is my most liked man in film. There are other manlymen in films like Jason and the Argonauts and Clash of the Titans, but none stand out in my mind like Conan. I would like for my future sons to see him.
Myself, I saw Indiana Jones as a child and it influenced me, but I don't want my children to see it.
do you have letterboxd?
No ☺️
@@AbbieRee :( needs changing
Favorite male character could be literally almost any movie with Alain Delon or Charles Bronson. Both were actors that relied almost entirely on physical presence and acted like guy like Clint Eastwood talked too much. Ryan Gosling in Drive is just Nicolas Winding Refn doing a hipster version of those guys, specifically Delon in Le Samourai, and selling Gosling before revealing him as a monster.
The thing with male characters is not that they were more realistic back when. Nothing is realistic about Sylvester Stallone or Harrison Ford. The difference was that it was understood those movies were not going to bring in female film watchers. They were written as male power fantasies. The new Daniel Craig Bond films are an example of this failure. He's technically more realistic in that he fails in every movie and women even turn him down. No man is going to see James Bond for that. Making him look like a British Essex club bouncer is also equally miscalculated. Hollywood is running on the idea that women have more disposable income but that doesnt mean that you abandon half the human population in search of an audience.
My favourite is Bond , James Bond . But the problem is that the new 007 isn't gonna order vodka martini shaken not stirred , instead it's gonna be a milkshake with rainbow colours and a slice of woke pronouns. 😢
actually witcher books are about ciri.
I have to admit I haven’t read the books. That’s such an interesting point thank you for bringing it up ☺️