-- I have no earthly reason why I believed this, but I didn't think the 10mm could match the .357. I'd say the .357 edged out, but close as that was, who cares. Comes down to your preference of generally having more ammo in the gun and faster reload with the pistol, and the better reliability with the wheel gun. Love them both; not trying to start a debate. Having that RIA 10mm myself, I have to say, I'm glad I opted for it over the .45acp, for which I already have 6 or 7. If you carry every day (these platforms only, I'd go 10mm. If it sits in your nightstand for 20 years and suddenly you pick it up and need it to shoot, the .357. The differences of effect on target really don't matter here, do they?
It's hard to beat a magnum revolver for damage. I was a wheel gun guy for many decades carrying a snubby model 60 S&W 357 mag. I went to .40, then .45acp, and finally settled with 357sig. for edc. Love me some 357sig.
I sometimes carry my S&W model 686 3” using those same 125 Grain underwood loads it’s the perfect barrel length not to big but can still get 75-80% of the Full velocity and muzzle energy
I wish I knew what powder Underwood uses I hand loaded some that got 1600 fps out of a 4" but it was over pressure. That was 800X powder Might try some 2400 and Blue Dot
Found your channel from SPN Firearms.👍 I picked up a Springfield XDm Elite Compact 10mm for a Elk hunting trip I was planning, the hunt did not happen, but now I had this 10mm. I figure the 200 gr hard-cast stuff is best left to the woods, so I started researching the various loads to use it as an EDC.👍 Not as many choices as 9mm, but 10mm is getting some love these days, options are getting better.😁 Great testing, that 357 was impressive, but the form factor of the 10mm just wins for me.
The 125 gr .357 Magnum made it 1/4 inch more penetration than the heavier 155 gr 10mm?! Wow! That surprises me. I was thinking, in the beginning, a 158 gr magnum would be a more fair comparison for the 155 10mm and expected the 10mm 155 to beat the 125 in penetration. But the 125 held it’s own and won. Great video and demonstration
It's the sectional density, weight to diameter, that matters in penetration. The 357 Mag here actually has a little higher sectional density than the 155gr 10mm.
Lots of 357 memories but now ive become a 10mm guy. 16rds on my hip gives me a sense of security. Could be a false sense but its something!! 10mm is my backcountry gun here in western Montana Eastern ID.
Nice showcase for two of my very favorite calibers, especially since I've bought and fired both of these loadings. The 10mm shot with a suprising smoothness, especially compared to their 155gr XTPS.
Growing up in the 1970's in the city of Knoxville, Tennessee... I remember hearing alot of talk about the 357. Magnum! You can see why! One guy used a 357. Magnum he said to shoot through the radiator of some gas thieves at a gas station when they started to drive off, apparently it hit the hoodlums hood latch and blew the hood open, stopping there get away attempt as they couldn't see where to drive... lol
Just crazy performance by the 357 Mag. Great video to send to anybody who questions one shot stop statistics. And with 100 ft/s less 357 Sig would be right up there, plus the capacity advantage. Any LEO driving alone and is allowed to do so, should switch to 357 Sig (or at least .40 S&W)
This video was right on time. I have some of those Underwood .357 Magnum loads in 125 158 grain. I just bought the Rossi 66 6 inch barrel. I'm gonna have fun with this hand rifle 😊
Great test, that 357 mag is vicious. I love some 357 goodness. Also a 10mm guy too. Love your vids! I’d love to see 10mm solid copper 155s, underwood and buffalo bore both load that bullet.
Thank you sir I appreciate that!! Glad u enjoy the channel!! I will have to grab some for a test. I have some 125gr solid copper hp's but from doubletap, and they're pretty nasty too. I'll be doing a test with them soon😁.
Well if someone said ok choose one 357 or 10mm I’m taking 10mm all day ..357 is nice and all and it is certainly more powerful and I’d love to have one… But,the 10mm makes much more sense you can get a nice G20 for what 600sih bucks put a light and laser on it slap on a red dot and it comes with 15 round magazines…
Another great test! I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to argue that the 357 Mag/125 gr combo is not an effective self defense choice. It's been top dog for a whole lot of years - in the revolver world. For those who rely on revolvers there isn't much in the way of a more effective round to carry. Still, there are downsides, since there are always downsides! The heavy recoil, capacity & muzzle blast take some work to deal with. Reloads... well reloads pretty much suck for revolvers, when compared to the semi-auto pistols. When compared side by side, the amount of damage between them isn't really significant and certainly wouldn't make any difference to someone who caught the round! Like the 357, the 10mm has it's downsides as well. The guns are generally larger than it's little brother, the 9mm, and it too has some recoil issues a shooter has to deal with. All of this can be overcome with training and determination. The reload issue, while not exactly common in self defense situations, is easy enough with the semi auto's compared to the revolver, and the added capacity of the average 10mm auto is another advantage, all together giving the 10mm semi auto handgun the advantage. Not that a skilled revolver guy is going to lose a fight automatically, but when confronted with multiple bad guys at the same time, might tend to run short of ammo in a worst case situation. Slim chances, true, but never zero. For these reasons, I carry a 10mm auto pistol and a reload (21 rounds total compared to 12 for a revolver with 1 reload). Short of carrying around an AR all the time (so inconvenient!) , I believe it gives me the best odds of coming out on top in most situations where I might have to fight to survive. So yeah, I think the 10mm is the true King! Cheers, jc
If you are a weight lifter and strong man like myself carrying a Ruger GP100 w 5 inch barrel is peace of cake(not bragging just fact). Reloading with speed loaders I am close to being fast as semi auto. Takes practice but once proficient its not that slow at all(second or under 2 slower vs mag reload). I 'll take power and well aimed shot from fast draw holster with no slide and safety to think about vs always carrying with one in the chamber and wondering if that mechanical safety will always work. My Ruger has trigger and hammer work done on it and follow up shots are fast. I also like my MR920 in 9mm other days as it is much lighter and follow up shots much faster. Depends on where I am and treat level. Good comment friend and stay health, strapped and legit. God bless.
After a few years of revolver shooting and reloading with Comp speed loaders, I'll agree that a revolver can be loaded pretty dam fast, a lot faster than most people think! But I switched from the S&W Model 19 I had for a couple of years to a 1911 and never looked back. Actually, I need to get out & practice a bit with the revolver, so I don't lose my touch completely! In the last 20 years or so most of my revolver shooting was either my Redhawk or Vaqureo, both in .44 mag. My poor 586 has been seriously neglected during this time. Plus dumping the 9mm and going to the 10mm has got me doing most of my practice with the 10mm. I'll drag it out this summer, it's much too cold out for my delicate heiny this time of year! That's one thing I liked about Tucson (way back in another life) was it only snowed once every 5 or 10 years and was all gone by noon! Not here in MO! Snow.... blech! Cheers, jc
it's time for people to stop this multiple armed badguys shit...it's ludicrous. you need body armor in that situation more than you need reload speed. anyway the best auto caliber is 357 sig in a platform designed for the .40 cartridge
Interesting Video, back in the early 80s I was a deputy sheriff, and my duty & EDC Was and still is sometime the 357 Magnum, with Remington 125gr SJHP, I do plan to pick-up a 10mm, the best non-watered down 10mm is IMO the Underwood and the Buffalo Bore, Thank You Sir! 👍🇺🇸 subbed.
Good video. I know the gel's expensive, but I would like to have seen a 3 shot comparison, just in case the first 357 magnum shot was a fluke. I know they're powerful, but that star pattern was massive. Thx for the video.
The lighter, higher velocity is what gave the .357 the 1/4" edge I would say. It is odd to me how many people have sworn up and down that the 10mm was not even close to the .357. Just like people will tell me that the .308 is equal to or more powerful than a .270, which used a .30-06 case. More people need to look at reloading manuals.
AZA do you have any ammo leftover from that 357SIG Corbon / 125gr test? It reached 1650+ fps would be nice to confirm the upper limits of 357 SIG in relation to this 357mag performance.
That is shocking performance from 357. I once new an old school police investigator who told me he had to do a report every time an officer shot someone. They had 357 magnum revolvers back then. They were trained to fire twice/assess before firing more into someone. But no one ever had to fire the second shot in all the shootings he went to because the first time the perp was hit, they dropped. And every single time they took a torso hit, they died. Just sharing a story.
Wow! XTP's work really well when pushed to high velocity. They're a traditional cup and core bullet and I'm surprised you didn't get core separation. Those were some hot rounds. Thanks for another great test. Underwood isn't afraid of loading to a cartridges potential.....most of the time.
Couple of freight trains!!! Not sure if I've seen 2 rounds inflict more damage on the channel.....well the .41 and .44 magnum tests probably showed the same or greater performance!
Thank you for this very interesting and informative video. Much appreciated. The 125 Gr XTP JHP .357 Magnum bullet was going faster, penetrated more, and fragmented less, than the 155 Gr XTP JHP 10mm Auto bullet. - The .357 bullet is a true .357 bullet designed for this caliber and these velocities. -- The 10mm bullet is designed for .40 S&W velocities. Good as the Hornady XTP is, it's not a true 10mm Auto bullet. Question: Does anyone make JHP bullets designed for real 10mm Auto velicities? Good things! 👍
Both cartridges are powerful. Since I handload I prefer the wheel gun because I don't have to chase the brass, I find every one from my .357. I've quit reloading for all my semi-auto handguns because I don't like to chase brass and I don't like the headspace being on the mouth of the case.
And people question why my EDC is Ruger Gp100 with 5 inch barrel with Underwood ammo you just tested!) So much for 10mm as well. Many tried to replicate 357 round loaded to original specs from 30's(full load) even 10mm won't beat it. It's even more versatile and beats 44 magnum as well in most real World scenarios. Yes I sad that. 44 magnum drops like a brick after 100 yards due to weight and for self defense in urban scenario will over penetrate. Excellent test and video my friend.
Ok for CARRY situations the .357 is better than .44 mag. But for true HUNTING situations where you are after deer 🦌 or pigs and especially BEAR 🐻 there is zero question about which is better when it comes to an 18 inch lever gun. Not even close!!!!
@@DaveL9170 By better, he doesn't mean more powerful. For a field gun, I think I'd rather have the 357 as well. It can and has killed everything up to and including Polar bears, from a handgun. I think if I do my part, it'll serve me well.
The 10mm did carry a longer wound channel than the .357 mag, of course I wouldn't want to get hit by either round. The only thing missing from the .357 mag was that it didn't have that small thermonuclear explosion halfway through the wound channel like that 10mm did. LOL
No disappointments here. Great options for personal defense. Not unacceptable for hunting but a bit more penetration would be desirable for such. Huge damage for both.
I think its generally accepted that 357 edges out 10 mil. The thing is, though, at best we can only carry 8 rounds of 357 between reloads, but with 10 mil, skys the limit 😅. Not really, but my "compact" XDM Elite holds 11+1. It leaves more room to make up for misses. Not that I'm playing favorites. I own and like both.
Good video, but not much beats a .357 mag 158gr semi wadcutter. FBI tests still rate that round at a 98% one shot stop of a threat. Hits like a sledgehammer and does massive internal damage.
I reload my 10mm with XTP 155 only because they are always available at the store. I'm very disappointed by the amount of fragmentation. Every time im able to recover one its always destroyed and I have yet to see one not fragment in a RUclips gel test.
Swde, Check out " Extream Penetrators." Those are scary & no fragmentation at all & can be reloaded if not shot into steel or some other hard stuff. Will outperform ANY H.P.
awesome comparison. L&S for me. glad i found this video. if ya get a chance, check out my review on 10mm vs 9x25 dillon. the dillon is kinda hybrid of 10mm and 357mag. better than both i think. haven't gotten to hit gel yet but i'm sure it'll be sweet. did you make the gel? considering buying clear ballistics but may go cheaper for now. thanks again. well done.
The first shot is usually the most accurate.... maybe so...and if connecting with this kind of ballistics...ONLY ONE shot is needed DRT 357 mag hydrostatic shock incapacitator!!! ☄🔥💣💥
😈🔱👿...i lov revolvers...but 357 vs 10mm is a no brainer..6 shots vs 15 and the 10mm hits almost as hard..but you need to get good ammo or the 10mm is crap
Funny people still think the 10mm is more powerful. 357 will always be more powerful idc what anyone says a 10mm is not getting close to 180 grain bullet going nearly 1600fps out of a 6 inch 357 barrel.
Look I don't know if this guy can't see or if he's just trying to make the 10 mm guys out there happy but I know for a fact that 10 mm was not pushing 4 inches there's no way, for you 10 mm boys out there you need to quit saying that the 10 mm is more powerful than the 357 it just isn't there's no way . As a matter of fact I would rather carry a 45 super or a 450 smc than a 10 mm
if you have 2 blocks.... and youre testing only 2 bullets..... use the one with barely any damage and let the damaged one take the bullet at the end.... what.....? what did this do other than let you shoot. why are you acting like its any kind of comparison when you shot into something already shot......
Well if someone said ok choose one 357 or 10mm I’m taking 10mm all day ..357 is nice and all and it is certainly more powerful and I’d love to have one… But,the 10mm makes much more sense you can get a nice G20 for what 600sih bucks put a light and laser on it slap on a red dot and it comes with 15 round magazines…
I like semi-autos, but they're still prone to issues that you just don't see them happening in a revolver, like failure to feed, failure to eject, slide bite,.............. I've been hit with brass more than once while firing a semi-auto at the range. With lots of practice, one can be as quick in reloading a revolver as one reloading a semi-auto. Moreover, a .357 mag. revolver is more versatile than a 10mm pistol. Anyway, that's my take.
@@williamwatson4625, Let me guess. You've had absolutely NO experience with a G20 or XDM-E 10 MM have you. 1000 round torture tests & no malfunctions no matter what you feed em & reload is 1 second. No revolver can even come close to that, ever.
-- I have no earthly reason why I believed this, but I didn't think the 10mm could match the .357. I'd say the .357 edged out, but close as that was, who cares. Comes down to your preference of generally having more ammo in the gun and faster reload with the pistol, and the better reliability with the wheel gun. Love them both; not trying to start a debate. Having that RIA 10mm myself, I have to say, I'm glad I opted for it over the .45acp, for which I already have 6 or 7.
If you carry every day (these platforms only, I'd go 10mm. If it sits in your nightstand for 20 years and suddenly you pick it up and need it to shoot, the .357. The differences of effect on target really don't matter here, do they?
It's hard to beat a magnum revolver for damage. I was a wheel gun guy for many decades carrying a snubby model 60 S&W 357 mag. I went to .40, then .45acp, and finally settled with 357sig. for edc. Love me some 357sig.
I sometimes carry my S&W model 686 3” using those same 125 Grain underwood loads it’s the perfect barrel length not to big but can still get 75-80% of the Full velocity and muzzle energy
@@ahmettraktroeNot on a 6-7 inch revolver.
Still carry a model 60...
I wish I knew what powder Underwood uses
I hand loaded some that got 1600 fps out of a 4" but it was over pressure.
That was 800X powder
Might try some 2400 and Blue Dot
Found your channel from SPN Firearms.👍
I picked up a Springfield XDm Elite Compact 10mm for a Elk hunting trip I was planning, the hunt did not happen, but now I had this 10mm. I figure the 200 gr hard-cast stuff is best left to the woods, so I started researching the various loads to use it as an EDC.👍 Not as many choices as 9mm, but 10mm is getting some love these days, options are getting better.😁
Great testing, that 357 was impressive, but the form factor of the 10mm just wins for me.
Nice! .357 did not disappoint. Still my fave of the two.
The 125 gr .357 Magnum made it 1/4 inch more penetration than the heavier 155 gr 10mm?! Wow! That surprises me. I was thinking, in the beginning, a 158 gr magnum would be a more fair comparison for the 155 10mm and expected the 10mm 155 to beat the 125 in penetration. But the 125 held it’s own and won. Great video and demonstration
Thank you sir, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
It's the sectional density, weight to diameter, that matters in penetration. The 357 Mag here actually has a little higher sectional density than the 155gr 10mm.
And that was from a 4" barrel. I wonder how it would have performed from a 6" barrel.
@@PhoenixBird9000 i’ve got a 6 inch S&W Highway Patrolman M28...maybe I can find out
@@PhoenixBird9000 Or from a lever action!
Lots of 357 memories but now ive become a 10mm guy. 16rds on my hip gives me a sense of security. Could be a false sense but its something!! 10mm is my backcountry gun here in western Montana Eastern ID.
Yes! Some REAL 357 Mag ammo. Very impressive!
Your videos are simple, basic, and factual with no BS. Subscribed!
Nice showcase for two of my very favorite calibers, especially since I've bought and fired both of these loadings. The 10mm shot with a suprising smoothness, especially compared to their 155gr XTPS.
Growing up in the 1970's in the city of Knoxville, Tennessee... I remember hearing alot of talk about the 357. Magnum! You can see why! One guy used a 357. Magnum he said to shoot through the radiator of some gas thieves at a gas station when they started to drive off, apparently it hit the hoodlums hood latch and blew the hood open, stopping there get away attempt as they couldn't see where to drive... lol
Just crazy performance by the 357 Mag. Great video to send to anybody who questions one shot stop statistics. And with 100 ft/s less 357 Sig would be right up there, plus the capacity advantage. Any LEO driving alone and is allowed to do so, should switch to 357 Sig (or at least .40 S&W)
This video was right on time. I have some of those Underwood .357 Magnum loads in 125 158 grain. I just bought the Rossi 66 6 inch barrel. I'm gonna have fun with this hand rifle 😊
Great test, that 357 mag is vicious. I love some 357 goodness. Also a 10mm guy too. Love your vids! I’d love to see 10mm solid copper 155s, underwood and buffalo bore both load that bullet.
Thank you sir I appreciate that!! Glad u enjoy the channel!! I will have to grab some for a test. I have some 125gr solid copper hp's but from doubletap, and they're pretty nasty too. I'll be doing a test with them soon😁.
Well if someone said ok choose one 357 or 10mm I’m taking 10mm all day ..357 is nice and all and it is certainly more powerful and I’d love to have one… But,the 10mm makes much more sense you can get a nice G20 for what 600sih bucks put a light and laser on it slap on a red dot and it comes with 15 round magazines…
Another great test! I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to argue that the 357 Mag/125 gr combo is not an effective self defense choice. It's been top dog for a whole lot of years - in the revolver world. For those who rely on revolvers there isn't much in the way of a more effective round to carry. Still, there are downsides, since there are always downsides! The heavy recoil, capacity & muzzle blast take some work to deal with. Reloads... well reloads pretty much suck for revolvers, when compared to the semi-auto pistols.
When compared side by side, the amount of damage between them isn't really significant and certainly wouldn't make any difference to someone who caught the round! Like the 357, the 10mm has it's downsides as well. The guns are generally larger than it's little brother, the 9mm, and it too has some recoil issues a shooter has to deal with. All of this can be overcome with training and determination. The reload issue, while not exactly common in self defense situations, is easy enough with the semi auto's compared to the revolver, and the added capacity of the average 10mm auto is another advantage, all together giving the 10mm semi auto handgun the advantage. Not that a skilled revolver guy is going to lose a fight automatically, but when confronted with multiple bad guys at the same time, might tend to run short of ammo in a worst case situation. Slim chances, true, but never zero. For these reasons, I carry a 10mm auto pistol and a reload (21 rounds total compared to 12 for a revolver with 1 reload). Short of carrying around an AR all the time (so inconvenient!) , I believe it gives me the best odds of coming out on top in most situations where I might have to fight to survive. So yeah, I think the 10mm is the true King!
Cheers,
jc
If you are a weight lifter and strong man like myself carrying a Ruger GP100 w 5 inch barrel is peace of cake(not bragging just fact).
Reloading with speed loaders I am close to being fast as semi auto.
Takes practice but once proficient its not that slow at all(second or under 2 slower vs mag reload).
I 'll take power and well aimed shot from fast draw holster with no slide and safety to think about vs always carrying with one in the chamber and wondering if that mechanical safety will always work.
My Ruger has trigger and hammer work done on it and follow up shots are fast.
I also like my MR920 in 9mm other days as it is much lighter and follow up shots much faster.
Depends on where I am and treat level.
Good comment friend and stay health, strapped and legit.
God bless.
After a few years of revolver shooting and reloading with Comp speed loaders, I'll agree that a revolver can be loaded pretty dam fast, a lot faster than most people think! But I switched from the S&W Model 19 I had for a couple of years to a 1911 and never looked back. Actually, I need to get out & practice a bit with the revolver, so I don't lose my touch completely! In the last 20 years or so most of my revolver shooting was either my Redhawk or Vaqureo, both in .44 mag. My poor 586 has been seriously neglected during this time. Plus dumping the 9mm and going to the 10mm has got me doing most of my practice with the 10mm. I'll drag it out this summer, it's much too cold out for my delicate heiny this time of year! That's one thing I liked about Tucson (way back in another life) was it only snowed once every 5 or 10 years and was all gone by noon! Not here in MO! Snow.... blech!
Cheers,
jc
it's time for people to stop this multiple armed badguys shit...it's ludicrous. you need body armor in that situation more than you need reload speed.
anyway the best auto caliber is 357 sig in a platform designed for the .40 cartridge
The two best rounds. 10mm and 357 Magnum. Cool.
Awesome video like always. You are great at picking apples to apples bullet weights and construction. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much I really appreciate that!! Glad u enjoyed it. Plenty on the way😁👍.
Interesting Video, back in the early 80s I was a deputy sheriff, and my duty & EDC Was and still is sometime the 357 Magnum, with Remington 125gr SJHP, I do plan to pick-up a 10mm, the best non-watered down 10mm is IMO the Underwood and the Buffalo Bore, Thank You Sir! 👍🇺🇸 subbed.
357 mag will always be better then any semiautomatic gun love my 357:mag never let me down
Looks like a nice Security Six!
Thank you sir, its definitely a sweet shooter!!
Good video. I know the gel's expensive, but I would like to have seen a 3 shot comparison, just in case the first 357 magnum shot was a fluke. I know they're powerful, but that star pattern was massive. Thx for the video.
The lighter, higher velocity is what gave the .357 the 1/4" edge I would say. It is odd to me how many people have sworn up and down that the 10mm was not even close to the .357. Just like people will tell me that the .308 is equal to or more powerful than a .270, which used a .30-06 case. More people need to look at reloading manuals.
AZA do you have any ammo leftover from that 357SIG Corbon / 125gr test? It reached 1650+ fps would be nice to confirm the upper limits of 357 SIG in relation to this 357mag performance.
Unbelievable what these 2 rounds are capable of.
That 357 sure did make a longer initial damage zone compared to the 10 mm. That densely torn white cloudy area would translate to a lot of bleeding.
6 rounds of 357 or 15 rounds 10mm? They are so close, I'll definitely take the latter
That is shocking performance from 357. I once new an old school police investigator who told me he had to do a report every time an officer shot someone. They had 357 magnum revolvers back then. They were trained to fire twice/assess before firing more into someone. But no one ever had to fire the second shot in all the shootings he went to because the first time the perp was hit, they dropped. And every single time they took a torso hit, they died. Just sharing a story.
Wow! XTP's work really well when pushed to high velocity. They're a traditional cup and core bullet and I'm surprised you didn't get core separation. Those were some hot rounds. Thanks for another great test. Underwood isn't afraid of loading to a cartridges potential.....most of the time.
Thank you buddy!! Yes, most or the time lol. I've had my share of hit or miss from them..
357 Sig and 357 Magnum.
that .357 was ridiculous...wow. you put 770fpe into someone you're talking pretty much done. The UW 200gr XTP in 10mm is also very good
I have a 357mag but the way that 10mm case flew out of frame is crazy
.357Magnum/SIG-125grain still the Gold Standard of one-shot defensive rounds. 10mm/180gr for deep woods.
I think if the 135gr 10mm went up against the 357 125gr it would be interesting. But I think 10mm may take it
How was the recoil on the 357 magnum? Great video. Thanks
Thank you sir!! Recoil wasn't bad at all, definitely stout but very manageable.
We are indeed blessed to have a choice of calibers such as the 357 Mag, 357 Sig, 10 mm, .40 and to have quality Underwood ammo to load into them!
I used that 357 load in my Henry rifle and man the up front damage was crazy.
What would happen if you conpaired the 156g 10mm to the 158g 357mag
Couple of freight trains!!! Not sure if I've seen 2 rounds inflict more damage on the channel.....well the .41 and .44 magnum tests probably showed the same or greater performance!
Dang impressive....
The 10mm 'lost' to the 357, BUT that 10mm was very lethal in and of itself!
It didn't lose , he needs to use same bullet weight in both guns
derwood 1650 fps , may be the winner
Incredible performance!
Thank you for this very interesting and informative video. Much appreciated.
The 125 Gr XTP JHP .357 Magnum bullet was going faster, penetrated more, and fragmented less, than the 155 Gr XTP JHP 10mm Auto bullet.
- The .357 bullet is a true .357 bullet designed for this caliber and these velocities.
-- The 10mm bullet is designed for .40 S&W velocities. Good as the Hornady XTP is, it's not a true 10mm Auto bullet.
Question:
Does anyone make JHP bullets designed for real 10mm Auto velicities?
Good things! 👍
Awesome Vid...Thx for posting...Luv the 10
Both will get the job done. Great video
Absolutely. Thank you sir, I appreciate ya!!
Both cartridges are powerful. Since I handload I prefer the wheel gun because I don't have to chase the brass, I find every one from my .357. I've quit reloading for all my semi-auto handguns because I don't like to chase brass and I don't like the headspace being on the mouth of the case.
BB 180 grain XTP’s in 357 are vicious too. Especially out of a lever gun.
Phil Shoemaker, the Alaskan guide, carries a .357 Magnum with 180 grain slugs for bear medicine.
Ya, but he killed an attacking griz w a semi auto 9mm. Go figure...
Its a sin I dont own a 357 mag revolver yet.
I do
Get one !
I just bought my 3rd .357 last month .
And people question why my EDC is Ruger Gp100 with 5 inch barrel with Underwood ammo you just tested!)
So much for 10mm as well.
Many tried to replicate 357 round loaded to original specs from 30's(full load) even 10mm won't beat it.
It's even more versatile and beats 44 magnum as well in most real World scenarios.
Yes I sad that.
44 magnum drops like a brick after 100 yards due to weight and for self defense in urban scenario will over penetrate.
Excellent test and video my friend.
Ok for CARRY situations the .357 is better than .44 mag. But for true HUNTING situations where you are after deer 🦌 or pigs and especially BEAR 🐻 there is zero question about which is better when it comes to an 18 inch lever gun. Not even close!!!!
Thank you sir I appreciate u checkin it out!!
@@DaveL9170 By better, he doesn't mean more powerful. For a field gun, I think I'd rather have the 357 as well. It can and has killed everything up to and including Polar bears, from a handgun. I think if I do my part, it'll serve me well.
Lmao. Its funny to see all the different opions of people. Dude said 357 is btter than 44 mag 😂
He said it's more versatile and beats .44 mag in most real world scenarios. Going to depend on the scenario honestly
@@nickadkins7765 but is not 44 mag has a bunch of bullet weights.
357 mag also has bullet weights from 68 grains all the way up to 250 if you reload.
@vlogfriendsutopia your an idiot. Standard is 125 158 or 180 hard cast.
@vlogfriendsutopia they deleted my comment lol.
Should have also tried the .357 Mag. with the 158 gr XTP as it's weight is closer to weight of the 10 mm load.
The 10mm did carry a longer wound channel than the .357 mag, of course I wouldn't want to get hit by either round. The only thing missing from the .357 mag was that it didn't have that small thermonuclear explosion halfway through the wound channel like that 10mm did. LOL
357 🧟♂️ 🧟♀️ zombie apocalypse approved
No disappointments here. Great options for personal defense. Not unacceptable for hunting but a bit more penetration would be desirable for such. Huge damage for both.
I currumba!! Thanks for the video.
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
Thanks!
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Any reason your other video same as this you were getting like 200 less fps from 357mag? What changed lol
I think its generally accepted that 357 edges out 10 mil. The thing is, though, at best we can only carry 8 rounds of 357 between reloads, but with 10 mil, skys the limit 😅. Not really, but my "compact" XDM Elite holds 11+1. It leaves more room to make up for misses.
Not that I'm playing favorites. I own and like both.
Good video, but not much beats a .357 mag 158gr semi wadcutter. FBI tests still rate that round at a 98% one shot stop of a threat. Hits like a sledgehammer and does massive internal damage.
Haven't watched yet, but I'm guessing the extra 1 inch of barrel give the 10mm a slight edge.
I reload my 10mm with XTP 155 only because they are always available at the store. I'm very disappointed by the amount of fragmentation. Every time im able to recover one its always destroyed and I have yet to see one not fragment in a RUclips gel test.
Swde, Check out " Extream Penetrators." Those are scary & no fragmentation at all & can be reloaded if not shot into steel or some other hard stuff. Will outperform ANY H.P.
Yep block is compromised just as most a vids . Ya get 1/16 of inch from a wound channel and reading can be so close or so far .
Gotta ask, should I consider this a "HOT AIR" gun test? :)
I have that rock island, it’s super reliable
Very nice!! They really are. I know a lot of ppl that don't care for them, but there tanks for sure. Love mine.
Either would be devastating to get hit with. But I'm biased for the 357mag. Great comparison 👍👍
Thank you sir!!
@@AzAirgunner. always enjoy watching 👍👍
1700 fps! Wow!
awesome comparison. L&S for me. glad i found this video. if ya get a chance, check out my review on 10mm vs 9x25 dillon. the dillon is kinda hybrid of 10mm and 357mag. better than both i think. haven't gotten to hit gel yet but i'm sure it'll be sweet. did you make the gel? considering buying clear ballistics but may go cheaper for now. thanks again. well done.
.357 mag doesn't really shine until it is shot out of a 6+ inch barrel.
10mm is the 21st century 357mag
The first shot is usually the most accurate.... maybe so...and if connecting with this kind of ballistics...ONLY ONE shot is needed DRT 357 mag hydrostatic shock incapacitator!!! ☄🔥💣💥
😈🔱👿...i lov revolvers...but 357 vs 10mm is a no brainer..6 shots vs 15 and the 10mm hits almost as hard..but you need to get good ammo or the 10mm is crap
Funny people still think the 10mm is more powerful. 357 will always be more powerful idc what anyone says a 10mm is not getting close to 180 grain bullet going nearly 1600fps out of a 6 inch 357 barrel.
Tough to call a clear winner on this test. Personal preference I'd say.
357mg win 🏆
@@ojpaige3873 As he said. Personal preference. The stretch cavity wasn't different enough to say one was better than the other! Both are NAAASSTYYYY
He needs to use equal bullet weighs to make it a real comparison@@ojpaige3873
@@ojpaige3873he needs to use equal bullet weights for a real comparison, this is a joke
You need to use equal bullet weights before you claim the 357 is the winner...
10 mm. ❤
The word of the day kids is, MAGNUM
Buddy, the 10mm, properly loaded, IS a magnum.
🤣😂🤣🤣🤣 ahhhhhh,, the fanboys can’t help themselves,
@@buddysumner4022, Yep, neither can the idiots who can't read ballistics.
If you get a Glock 40 in 10mm it puts out 800 ft pound of energy
357 magnum did almost as much damage as the 125 grain double tap 10mm did..
Look I don't know if this guy can't see or if he's just trying to make the 10 mm guys out there happy but I know for a fact that 10 mm was not pushing 4 inches there's no way, for you 10 mm boys out there you need to quit saying that the 10 mm is more powerful than the 357 it just isn't there's no way . As a matter of fact I would rather carry a 45 super or a 450 smc than a 10 mm
if you have 2 blocks.... and youre testing only 2 bullets..... use the one with barely any damage and let the damaged one take the bullet at the end.... what.....? what did this do other than let you shoot. why are you acting like its any kind of comparison when you shot into something already shot......
Well if someone said ok choose one 357 or 10mm I’m taking 10mm all day ..357 is nice and all and it is certainly more powerful and I’d love to have one… But,the 10mm makes much more sense you can get a nice G20 for what 600sih bucks put a light and laser on it slap on a red dot and it comes with 15 round magazines…
I like semi-autos, but they're still prone to issues that you just don't see them happening in a revolver, like failure to feed, failure to eject, slide bite,.............. I've been hit with brass more than once while firing a semi-auto at the range. With lots of practice, one can be as quick in reloading a revolver as one reloading a semi-auto. Moreover, a .357 mag. revolver is more versatile than a 10mm pistol. Anyway, that's my take.
@@williamwatson4625, Let me guess. You've had absolutely NO experience with a G20 or XDM-E 10 MM have you. 1000 round torture tests & no malfunctions no matter what you feed em & reload is 1 second. No revolver can even come close to that, ever.