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Only a moron would listen to this full interview and think he killed his sister.. it was overly obvious to me the man has a low IQ which usually will be considered low level retardation and the pigs were pushing a narrative in his head and doing their best to make him cop to it.. these Oklahoma hicks aren’t much smarter (clearly) but they were intimidating this guy and making him nervous. I hope he got the last laugh with these tyrants.. they deserve only one thing..too bad it’s illegal to give it to’em.
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Speaking as an ex criminal investigator of many years, the investigator questioning the guy really sucks at his job, had a bad attitude, and only made things worse.
I spent more than half my life in that part of the Ozarks and I know how spooky things can be there. But the investigator fellow, where is he from that he doesn't know about fox grapes? They are everywhere. In some places you find muscadines. If the grapes were red they might have been something else, fox grapes are the little ones, black when ripe.
Sounds like they got pixie-led! I wonder if the 'grapes' they were eating were atropa belladonna berries. They would have been fruiting around the time they were missing, although I don't know if they grow in that part of the world. It might explain why they were seeing strange things.
As someone who abused meth in the past (been clean 11 years now), the second I heard Eddie open his mouth in the interview I thought, "this guy is high in meth." Then hearing the comment about Linda searching out a meth house, combined with the poor decision to leave the road, the immediate onset of hallucinations, and the decision to walk somewhere so far away with no provisions seemingly on the spur of the moment, I became even more convinced that drugs were involved. Part of me even wonders if Eddie wanted Linda to die out there and it just didn't happen that way. I'd have to know more about their personal lives- whether they disliked each other, or there was financial motives, etc. Long story short, what a weird case! Great job covering it!
this sounds like a good explanation to why eddie didn't call right away the next day, maybe he was high on meth/ getting meth and didn't want to admit it to cops
It is a good thing for Eddie that Linda was found. Its also a God answered PRAYER for Linda.. that Linda was found! All I could think while listening to that recording was "Shut up & listen to his story 1ST.. then get a competent investigator to cross exami.. actually so a professional interrogation can even BEGIN"
Agreed. This is the perfect example of why you NEVER talk to the police, innocent or guilty. If you are going to, at least have an attorney present. They will try to hem you up every chance they get. Not knocking them for that, just noting how they typically operate. There is nothing wrong with telling them that you are more than willing to cooperate but will only do so with an attorney present.
Let me start by saying I been clean for 5 years and 5 months now… heavy pain pill and cocaine snorter. I tried to quit everything cold Turkey, and I was hallucinating by the second day. I was talking to people that no one else could see. This story sounds like this to me. Nobody in their right mind would head out like they did with no supplies and dip off into the woods like that when it got dark. Drugs are 100% involved.
Could also be sleep deprivation. After even 2 days without sleep you can start hallucinating some weird stuff. I would know. It cost me my drivers license on the first test.
I assume they made him do a urine test? Meth would show up there. I would even request a tox screen for other drugs as well or for tropane plant alkaloids that are known deliriants like atropine.
Congratulations, I'm really happy for you on your sobriety. I'm struggling right now and getting prepared to make the jump. I'm not addicted to street drugs but what I'm using is hurting me mentally and physically and I'm just done with it. I'm so tired. Been addicted for 4 years. I'm still a young man and I want to get this taken care of while I still have my whole life ahead of me. I just want a second chance in life and I swear on everything, I'll never allow myself to get back to this awful place. If you don't mind me asking, how did you quit? What was your system? Did you taper, get on Suboxone? When did you start feeling better like you got over the worst of it, week, two weeks?
The interrogator sounded annoyed from the beginning. He was already treating the suspect like he was guilty and was trying to piece a crime rather than conduct an investigation. He wasn't doing his job, he was going off of what the former investigator told him instead of letting the man tell his story from beginning to end without bias toward him.
You’re not wrong, but the brother’s behavior makes absolutely no sense. So his known behavior, coupled with his nonsensical words, and his inability to plead the fifth…. It’s just nonsense. Drug fueled nonsense that makes everyone else’s jobs so much harder. He’s basically the poster boy of drug addiction and mental illness either cause by or exacerbated from the same. I lost 5 years of life listening to his ramblings and I genuinely want to sue the brother for negligent infliction of emotional distress.
It sounds to me like this officer who doesn't seem very well trained in interrogation is why so many folks with mental issues end up in prison. Entrapment is a real issue. They already decided before they ever spoke to him. Which obviously didn't help the situation.
@@TheQuantumPotato I got that from him to they both barely spoke English could’ve been a cultural thing. Either way they wasted enough time, not searching for her shame on her brother for not calling the cops immediately after getting out of the woods
@@jarvisedwin5175 True but "Barb" could have just as easily called, during the 3 days they were BOTH missing, or after Eddie got back. I'd really like to hear what her interview sounded like.
You can't really blame them. He's clearly a tweaker, who left his sister starving and dehydrated in the woods and didn't bother to call authorities. And his story sounds suspicious as hell even if it's true. They would be stupid to assume that there was no foul play.
No offense to Eddie, but this interview made me imagine Patrick Starr explaining how he got lost on some adventure. Glad Linda was found, and thank you for covering this strange case
@@mattacostaguitar4048 Man Ray: Aren't you Patrick Starr? Patrick: Yep. Man Ray: And this is your ID. Patrick: Yep Man Ray: I found this ID in this wallet, and if that's the case, then this must be your wallet. Patrick: Makes sense to me. Man Ray: Then take your wallet. Patrick: It's not my wallet. Man Ray: OH YOU DIMBOB, TAKEBACK YOUR WALLET OR I'LL RIP YOUR ARMS OFF!@#@
I met a guy that was convinced his wife had a man living in his walls with a remote controlled vibrator in his wife. he would freak out and claim she moaned louder for the wall man then him and cut huge holes in the wall searching for the man and eventually died of heart failure at 35. the craziest part of this story, when I first met the guy he was a decent guy with 3 daughters, wife, home paid for, & owner of a construction company. he was a good guy. He started using meth for whatever reason and within 6 months he went crazy and nothing could bring him back. His wife lost everything trying to get him help but his mind was too far gone. meth makes people non human. they lose all ability of self-preservation yet somehow it all makes sense to them. I have no doubt meth was involved in the story.
Not everyone. Meth is an accelerant, just like all drugs. They only magnify the person you already were and fast track your destiny, whatever that may be. They don't create new parts of you, and they don't dehumanize you.
yep no doubt, it creates a totally diff person, lets the devil all the way in if you ask me. p.s. did he find the guy in the wall, i'd bet he snuck out from a diff part of the house!! nah just a joke, but your right, messing with really any kind of drug opens portals for demonic oppression, not medicinal, but the party kind taken for no need other than to feel good or numb.
More precisely it's the lack of sleep that causes the auditory hallucinations. But yeah I agree meth addiction is terrible Edit:that's why not letting a person sleep in considered torture by the Geneva Conventions
I used to be a 911 dispatcher, during which time I had the opportunity to have some fairly long conversations with many types of people. This sounds very much like a person who probably had some pre-existing mental health issues that have been heavily exacerbated by meth use. Meth seemingly has this weird property of greatly magnifying delusional tendencies. Eddie's interrogation reminds me of a fellow I talked to who called 911, speaking in a whisper, asking for animal control. He didn't want to say why, but when pressed let me know in a _very_ roundabout way that there were lions stalking him in his house. Of course nothing about my statement is scientific, just my opinion based on experience.
Man, druggies tell some wild stories. This guy that I used to live across the street from would get doped up on something, he would then see a kid walk by and hallucinate that the pine tree in his front yard had bent a branch down and grabbed a kid, pulled him up to a mouth that opened in the trunk and swallowed the kid whole. He believed in what he saw sooo badly that whenever a kid would walk or ride a bike down the sidewalk in front of his house, he would run out of his house screaming incoherently about the child eating pine tree.
Eddie Huff sounds like he's mentally disabled, to be frank. He underestimates his sister's age by 25 years, gets easily confused, doesn't think of obvious solutions, and doesn't recognize his mistakes until it's pointed out *very* clearly to him. Drugs are probably a factor too, but this guy and his sister seem to struggle with basic thinking and communication even when we *know* that they're sober. Eddie doesn't even seem to grasp *what* the Officers are accusing him of, including quite humorously in the "russian roulette with a 9mm" incident, Eddie doesn't realize that playing russian roulette with a semi-automatic pistol is guaranteed death (just like the several people who are known to have died in just that manner, funnily enough)
I mean, he does use words like "finicky" and "bizarre." Just pretty hard to understand wtf is going on at all. The interrogator is not helpful, although I get why he is struggling.
The only way you could play Russian Roulette with a semiautomatic would be if someone else packed the clip and included random blanks (starter pistol blanks, or spent shells) among the live rounds. Even so, it's a stupid way to commit suicide. Same thing as flipping a coin whether to hang youself or not.
I have worked with hundreds of people with intellectual disabilities and several of them just try to keep the conversation going no matter what. Making stuff up on the spot like this is common in this group of people.
That was exactly my first thought combined with low intelligence and lack of food and water. I also believe he probably saw a guy on a horse but he was probably older than he said and the guy on the horse couldn’t understand him or get any kind of useful information out of him. This guy is still really struggling imagine in the midst of all this how bad he would’ve been. Probably thought he was a weirdo tweaker
Yeah theres been alot of speculation about whether or not they accidentally consumed something that made them hallucinate. And that seems to be the case here. I think it would be interesting if someone with knowledge of what to eat and what not to eat, and which things might be hallucinogenic, could go to the area and find out if anything like that grows there
23:38 the cop says "when two ppl hallucinate they don't see the same thing". He's obviously never done acid, because suggestive hallucinations is EXACTLY what happens. Your friend sees/hears something, talks about it, now you're hallucinating it too.
I think the majority of RUclips users that like the missing in the woods type content really, really want to believe in paranormal explanations......this channel does not fulfill that need. I think the guy does excellent, exceptional work, bringing the facts to light like no other.
There are just too many other channels that cater to viewers who don't know how to think critically. That anyone would even consider the unsubstantiated account of someone under these circumstances is ridiculous. There's no story here. The woman had a traumatic experience, was clearly dehydrated, traumatized, and terrified. Without any evidence to corroborate her story, it was a complete hallucination. I've spent nights in the woods and so have a lot of people I know. You might here a strange noise, see a fleeting shadow, feel like you're being watched, or even hear whispers. Often when your view of the world is like an incomplete puzzle, your brain fills in the missing pieces and draws on your fears to do it.
@@rockinbobokkin7831he is tearing down the mysterious allure that made me interested in the missing phenomenon. And I appreciate that. I am gradually losing my hesitance to go camping alone like I used to many years ago.
@@rockinbobokkin7831Lore Lodge is similar, but less succinct and isn't against considering paranormal stuff, but usually tries to debunk anything "paranormal" and tries to find logical conclusions. Loves talking about the paranormal stuff tho
As a former State Trooper myself, when interviewing someone you would be better off getting his basic story first. Then go into the details. Every time the Detective asked a leading question, like if he asked the guy for water, Eddie says he did ask him for water. Why didn't you go down to the creek for water? Yeah, the next day I went for water. Every logical suggestion the detective made Eddie added to his story. A good question would have been, where were you going on this long walk? They may be in the full interview but I didn't hear it. I think he either left her out there hoping she would die, or they were off to the drug man and got lost. Either way Eddie's a liar. Don't lead your suspects. That kind of helped Eddie craft a better story than he started with. Just my two cents
Yeah, he also interrupted Eddie a lot in order to feed him the more logical responses... If you wanted to catch someone in the ultimate lie, wouldn't you (metaphorically) let them dig themselves into a deep hole and then cast them then cast a truth/logic net over them? The officer conducting the interview was completely unprofessional! There is a reason the supreme court states that "every person is innocent until proven guilty" If Eddies actually had been guilty of murdering Linda (like the officers clearly believed), but Eddie had gotten a fairly competent lawyer, the case probably would have been easily dismissed due to the officer's unprofessionalism.
It just felt like the detective this whole time just wanted to pin it on him didn't even know if a crime had happened yet but he wanted Eddie to go down for it😂
When dealing with a witness/suspect, it's important to never underestimate how stupid people can be. It may seem suspicious (and should be considered) but also it's just being stupid.
The same goes for that cop doing the interrogation, I almost thought I was listening to a comedy sketch at times, that's how incompetent of a cop he sounded like lol
Perhaps they were just rounding down? I know people I graduated from high school with, who now claim to be 10 years younger than me... and they will forget we went to school together and say something like "I can't believe I hit my forties!" All I can think of is... you must have bounced and hit them twice!
No offense to anyone involved, but if you’ve ever wondered what it’s like trying to drag a coherent story out someone who is both low IQ and a heavy Methamphetamine abuser, it’s just like this.
The sheriff needed to just let Eddie talk. He was doing fine, there was no need to drag anything out of him. The sheriff was the worst interrogator ever.
@@PumpkinPatchVintage 100%! The cops need to do some serious soul searching because they did nothing but make the situation worse. I don't blame them for being suspicious, but they were ineffective as interrogators.
My word that sheriff is infuriating! One can easily tell Buddy is "challenged", so just let him tell you what he needs to in his terms. THEN you can pick it apart all you want. That guy thought he was going toe to toe with Hannibal Lecter 🤦🏽♀️
Somewhere, in some parallel universe, a young 18 or 19 year old "cowboy" has called the police, telling them about a very strange encounter with a weird dude, who walked out of the forest, saying he and his sister are lost and he needed directions.....
This has got to be one of the funniest detective interviews I ever heard. I was dying laughing because you do meet people deep out there who are this level of slow/drugged/some sort of weird and you feel like the sheriff when they're trying to tell you an insane story
My favorite quote from the detective was about how “even the little retarded kids know to dial 911!” I laughed loud enough to wake my wife up from the living room! 😂🤣 Even now, sitting here with 2 black eyes, I’m still laughing!
Yeah, typical know-it-all, power drunk cop. Sure, Eddie isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but that “detective” is worse because he thinks he’s the smartest fucking guy in the world. At least Eddie recognizes his limitations.
😂😂😂😂😅 I was hoping I'd find another comment like this. I was laughing until tears came out😂 You can visualize detectives head nearly explode off his shoulders 😂
Synopsis: Linda had brown shoelaces, but the salad I ate only had 2 cherry tomatoes. Anyways, the roof was painted red in 1973, but I got angry with myself and my neighbors friends cat came over looking for a lost Lego piece.
The way I see it is this: they either walked to school, or carried their lunch. On the other hand, they might have just had their pants pressed. At any rate, the flapjacks on top of the telephone poles know the real story.
Occam's razor and all, I think they were tripping balls before they set foot out the door. They seem to have hallucinated the entire road and everything that followed. Eddie probably wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree to begin with, and drug abuse seems to have impaired what few neurons he does have.
Guys, don't fall for this trolling. Psychedelic drugs don't "destroy brain cells," they help you live a happier life and are extremely safe, far safer than alcohol, that's for sure. They're like weed. As mentioned above in this thread, the guy sounds like he's on meth, which is indeed a really destructive drug that you should avoid. And there's a ton of meth in Arkansas. It's known to cause "delusions," and of course he would lie to the police about it.
I suspect it's low intelligence mixed with drug use. My late uncle (bless him) never did drugs but he wasn't the smartest guy and sometimes getting a straight story out of him was like listening to this guy, especially if he was agitated. I think they were out walking, doing drugs, hallucinated a "shortcut", and got lost. He didn't want to tell the police they'd been doing drugs, which is why the cops were suspicious. They could tell there was a lie there, but I think they thought he was lying about the wrong thing-- they suspected murder, I suspect meth.
@@angeladonoghue9010 No I just deleted my comments lol... I assumed too quickly that he had killed the sister, without watching the last part where we find out she's actually alive.
Meth users commonly discuss something called 'shadow people'. I'm inclined to believe there's a simple explanation for this, and that's it. As others have suggested you have two very unintelligent folks doing a LOT of meth over a long period of time and they simply were seeing shadow people. Heck, even if they weren't doing meth and were simply up for a very long time. This is a common side affect of that.
Well if you understand why god wants you to fast then you’ll understand why she seen these things. Fasting brings you closer to god, bc your body is dying with food, or water so your closer to that dimension, or frequency. Makes perfect sense if you think about it. I just added this comment that’s above and i believe meth users do the same thing, they don’t eat or drink fluids
Well, the Bible doesn't call it sorcery for nothing. All you brainiacs acting like the supernatural doesn't exist. The djinn exist. Stories like the one you're listening to are common throughout history and present day long before drugs existed. Only God and the name of Jesus will save you
The fact that people tried to pass this off as something paranormal pretty much sums up why I don't take the 'Missing 411' thing seriously. Everything seems mysterious if you don't look into it critically.
As a lifelong prolific criminal I wholeheartedly agree. Cops are terrible at their jobs. Rather than release me and let me go free, they always arrest me and take me to the cells!! 😭😂
@@pillbugm8914because the most prolific criminals have the riches to buy their way out of trouble. They set the system up that way from it's inception.
Just goes to show that by judging this fellow by his crazy story and his past criminal records, it would be easy to assume he is responsible for his sister being missing. Had she not turned up, he very likely would have been persecuted at the least and probably even prosecuted. Very strange case indeed.
And, with this crazy interview being recorded, I do not know if the Guy (Eddie) would have had many defenses during the trial. Story sounds so fishy and unbelievable.
@@PoeLemic I'm angry at him for leaving the main road. He thought he knew better, but man, what a smooth brained conkwocket. Then he didn't call the cops to report his sister missing when he got back! What kind of person just goes to bed like that? Eddie is not a good person.
I was able to follow his story and I’m amazed at how calm and sincere Eddie was, the cop was just too emotional. This interview was like a movie script and I did laugh at parts. They talk to him like he’s normal person with logic, but he obviously lacks critical thinking and that’s why the cops get so triggered. They can’t grasp that Eddie is thinking on a different plane of existence.
That they got emotional over the chance they could have saved a life makes perfect sense to me. My job pretty much always ended up finding a dead body. Knowing that, I can definitely understand the frustration. Sometimes hours, even minutes, matter.
We gotta remember this interview was like 2.5 hours and the host of the show edited it to make it somewhat coherent. I imagine he went around in circles and made other stuff up. Guess we'd have to listen to the whole thing
I’ll be frank. I listened to the full version then came here to make my first comment. I was able to follow it bc I have Asperger’s and some how can follow his thoughts. Eddie is not methed out necessarily, he’s on the spectrum and he was completely coherent and his story never changed. He was honest to a fault and was completely oblivious to the officers’ irritation and impatience. A trait usually of one on the spectrum. Just my observations.
OK I know he was sounding inconstant and there was an active missing person at the time but the cops that were taking the statement from the brother were really inpatient and unprofessional, they were acting like it's an interrogation not a statement
I mean they were obviously being untruthful at multiple points in the conversation and their thought process and logic was stupid enough to have gotten them both killed. If I heard a person telling me they did stupid thing after stupid thing, I'd be pretty astounded and mad at them too.
@shirmeymckamey9386 I absolutely understand that but there are stages to get to the point of the interrogation but the officer just jumped the steps and started interrogating him from the start
All I can think of is Milky Creek Road, Milky Creek Road. 🤪🤪🤪 And that interrogation had me in hysterics. It sounds like it’s straight out of a sitcom 😂
The law enforcement dude "taking the statement" infuriated me with his infatuation with saying " Millllkeee Creeeek road" !!! That was an interogation and a poorly conducted one at that.
That's because he was trying to make sense of a story that made no goddamn sense. There's alot of missing context in the recording of the interview too. Before it was even played he said that it's been heavily edited and pieced together in a way to make it somewhat easier to follow, and that the original interview is much more confusing. These detectives aren't dealing with a normal sober individual with a fully functioning brain here either. This is a meth smoker with a history of drug abuse, who is also almost certainly on a spectrum of mental retardation. If you have never dealt with a person like that, then I'm here to tell you that trying to get a coherent story out of them is incredibly difficult, and you often end up with something exactly like this interview.
Fr I was like stfu let him try to correlate his story dammit. He's obviously trying to recollect and think but him being interrupted makes him more confused.
I understand that it was hard to follow what Eddie was saying given the bizarre situation but the guy doing the questioning was interrupting AND lecturing him so much that I would have gotten confused, too. Personally, this sounds like a combination of drug use, poor decision making, and fear of the repercussions from police for both.
Agree. Being "on milky creek road" might include being on the sidepath of the road or not, but the interviewer can't seem to understand this. Either you are on the road, or you ain't, he thinks. Well, if you are on the sidepath of the road, you might still conceive of yourself as being on that road.
The one thing missing in this video, that would have really put it over the top, is a follow up interview with the policeman who conducted the interview, who insisted Eddie had killed his sister. I would have liked to hear his reaction to the fact that despite how convoluted it was, Eddie’s story to him was essentially true. As the cop stated, “Never in 20 years had he heard such made up lies and ridiculous story”, I would like to hear his reaction about Eddy being truthful and if that will change his perception of people in the future, in the case where if someone’s a bit weird, that shouldn’t imply guilt. Thanks again, great job!
Exactly, the officer should be demoted or at least reprimanded , retrained if not fired, he needs a week off without pay. Whatever it takes to changes his attitude
Never take a police “interview” without a lawyer. They lied to that man and screamed in his face that he was lying to them. They found her. Her story was similar. They LIED.
I thought the same thing. *laughs* They were adults, they could be married or divorced and just not changed their names back if they were "single" at the time.
Given the sort of people they seem to be, I think the presenter's guess is the much more likely option. Plus they're all staying together....like, I know you want to be sympathetic and polite to this bunch of meth heads who got lost in the woods, but come on...
As someone who has had visual hallucinations as a result of a serious medical emergency (no it wasn't drugs or the psych ward or anything like that) that landed me in the hospital for 2 1/2 months, they can seem so real and very scary. Real enough to the point you are driving medical staff crazy insisting there is a man or a spider or you are at a gas station or whatever. My husband had to tell me where I was and what was going on. I can't imagine being out in the woods hallucinating and having no one to tell you that it isn't real.
Me too....smoke was coming off water in evening bro I just sat down and watched and tripped my balls off call me Dylan Mulvaney it was amazing@@planexshifter
“After about 12-15 hours, ain’t no such thing as a finicky eater no more.” Dude, people don’t eat for that long every single day. It’s not some starvation scenario. This cop must be as big as a steer.
Their logic was really bizarre at times. "I didn't hallucinate during my training, so it couldn't have happened to you." There are so many variables there even ignoring that the cop suspects him, probably correctly, of using drugs.
@TheLithp I get dizzy after working without food for about 4 hours. 😂 Went about 8 hours without food during a concert and for extremely dizzy and threw up. I would probably, at least, think I was seeing things if I was walking for hours and didn't eat. I wanted to strangle the cop dude hearing this, especially the food thing. 😂 Not to mention that the "grapes" they ate could have been a hallucinogen or could have made them sick, which can cause hallucinations especially with the lack of food.
I love that you revisit these old cases. Most channels cover a case like this one time, talk about how spooky it is, and never go back to talk about it ever again. You on the other hand, point out that there's really nothing mysterious going on and that it's just a couple of tweakers out in the woods. There's no evidence at all that they are even related. Awesome, awesome video
Yeah. This channel cleared up so much. Where things are genuinely mysterious, ok, they are mysterious. The world is big, not everything we can explain. But, a bunch of meth addicts with apparent mental deficiencies wandering in the woods hallucinating??? or.....mysterious shadowy 'watcher' beings who may or may not be humans, that follow people in the woods closely but don't speak or otherwise communicate? One of these explanations happens (sadly) probably tens of thousands of times (if we count methheads in cities and suburbs) each year. The other...there's no proof it's ever happened at all.
This isnt the only incident of people being lost and seeing weird people in the forest while lost . But this story is the weirdest one I've ever heard about. The other case was a very clean living outdoors women that was lost for almost 2 weeks. She claimed she seen people almost every night.
This dudes either a straight up idiot, drug abuser, or struggling with some form of mental handicap (possibly all three). I don’t trust anything he says.
Maybe she did. She could have been seeing angels, or even demons. Another possibility that I haven't seen here is that people often grow Marijuana in the woods on land that they don't own, and will kill anyone who stumbles across it. This might explain a lot of the missing people.
Honestly, too many people won't allow the possibility of something else out there besides us humans because of fear. I feel this to be extremely detrimental towards our collective growth. I have seen some "odd" things that cannot be easily explained
@-Soulja-seeing shadow people is an extremely common occurrence when sleep deprived malnourished and high on stimulants I have myself encountered them on several occasions. It's such a common occurrence stimulant users will often ask each other if they have seen the shadow people yet to gauge how high they are.
as an arkansan, a few things: 1. many “highways” out in rural areas are just residential areas, but extremely spaced out. They’re technically highways and connected to highways but have nature, some houses, and farms in between. There are also so many creeks it’s ridiculous. So the mill creek road may have been what they called their street, even if it was officially labeled something different. In rural areas gps only helps so much, and we’ve got streets literallt named after the person who owns the house etc. Those aren’t really official or paved, it’s just property with dirt roads. 2. Having been out in these rural areas before, It is extremely easy to get lost. But I will say if there was a creek involved, it’s not uncommon to see people drive by or swimming, and sometimes the people who swim in the creek don’t speak english, so they may have not known english or didn’t want to mess with a rural white guy, just in case. I know as ive seen a lot of people out by the creek who didn’t speak english before and they don’t really talk to you if they don’t know what ur saying. It’s also common etiquette to leave people well alone, but especially people who live out there, bc not all of these creeks are public lol. It can be on a national park, someone’s property, and you can’t really tell. So you just stay quiet and keep away from others. 3. Drugs are a really bad issue out in rural areas. It’s not as bad with the older folks, but from ages 30-50 ive noticed a lot of users and addicts who all live together or live in a house from their grandparent bc it’s all they have/can afford. The way he tells his story and swears they were hallucinating, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were both on something when they started. I know a loooott of addicts will just walk and talk to get that energy out. If you don’t have a car or can’t drive bc you’re high, you just walk cuz there ain’t nothing else to do around there. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they were really hallucinating bc they were on something. I mean at 50 years old, a hike like that is pretty difficult. So if they were on something like a stimulant that may be why they walked for so long and didn’t want to stop. this is just my two cents, as someone who’s been out to these areas and interacted with people like this.
I will also say, it sounds like he maybe has some untreated adhd or similar issues bc i have adhd and I also tell stories kind of discombobulated and strange like that when I get nervous. He does clarify but he doesn’t know how to express himself properly, so he comes off as unreliable when he may just be nervous and not know how to say what he means.
@@internetspookiesArkansas is Rough outside of Little Rock and Fayetteville, I was in fort smith/van buren and the people just stared me down some weren’t friendly im not white btw there were some decent white folks it’s a mix sadly
Ok but he admitted there was no water to be swimming in, no truck and no ppl and that he was seeing things. What he didn’t admit is that they were on METH. And that explains this entire “mysterious” case.
After listening to Eddy’s rambling this is what I think happened: Eddy and Linda set off walking down that road for so long because they were out of meth and decided to walk to “this guy’s” house that Linda knows in Woolem to get some more meth. Why else would 2 people their age walk many miles down that road. At some point 1 of them decides there is a short cut through woods so they walk right in and get lost. The reason he stops himself from answering a couple of their questions and why his story is all over the place is because he doesn’t want to tell them they were on a meth run and got lost. At some point in the woods they get into an argument, possibly over which direction to go. Linda decided she knew which way to go, tells him she going that way, he says he thinks it’s the wrong way and he wants to just go home, she tells him fine she will go her way to the meth house and he can go home adding that “I bet I’ll beat you home” they then split up and the rest is history. 🤔🤷🏼♀️ This explanation explains all the many strange things these individuals did and said. Cheers
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I really wish the cops had done a drug test, but I guess they didnt have a reason to until *after* linda was found, and by then theres maybe no legal reason to get a drug test done. You would think the cops would have done some kind of blood or urine test to at least see if there was any traces of shrooms or some kind of woodland fungus or berry poison. I suspect that the cops were so immediately convinced of Eddies guilt that they never even considered that the hallucinations were real, and thus never considered that meth was the answer. I think that interrogator was kind of an idiot lol. A very self assured man who is convinced his instincts are always right and that he knows how people behave and believes hes very good at reading people
Just watched a show today.. guy in s.c. went to cash a 10k lottery ticket.. got lost. His cell pings got him looking like a rabbit getting chased for 4 hours. He ended up dying of exposure after crossing a six lane highway at rush hour, never even got to cash that 10k. Sad af
You saved me having to write it. This is exactly what happened. Try driving a taxi for a while in a town where there are people like this - it will be crystal clear to you.
I'm so glad you decided to do a deep dive into this case. As someone whose very interested in the Missing 411 Case series by David Paulides, this is a case that has always interested me. Unfortunately, other than the interview Linda gives after she is found, no other information is ever given about what happened to her or her brother. Your channel has been a reliable source for providing much needed context to these cases that have clearly been sensationalized. Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
This case should not be included, or even considered, when discussing or researching Missing 411. This case is not really all that strange. This is about two very low intelligence individuals, also meth users, who went out into the woods of the Ozarks smoking meth. I live here in the Missouri Ozarks. And the wilderness out here is very deep, dark, and dense. Even a very experienced woodsman can easily get lost out here. Now you take 2 people, who are low IQ, possibly even on a spectrum of mental retardation, who go off into the woods on a meth bender to "explore". It's not very much of a surprise that you end up with something like this happening. And if you have never tried to get a story that makes sense out of a meth addicted low IQ individual, then I'm here to tell you, this is usually what you end up with. A crazy story that makes no sense. There's just too many other factors here with this case that should keep it from being included with the other cases.
Thuis is the exact problem I have with missing 411. I'm open minded to all sorts of possibilities but paulides purposefully leaves out important info that makes it very clear there's a reasonable explanation for what happened. It's even more troubling that he is retired law enforcement. Either his critical thinking skills are really that bad or he purposefully tries to mislead people. Either one is scary when you know this guy has had who knows how many locked up.
@@mattjack3983 Honestly, this is what you find with a lot of the Missing 411 cases: a purposeful lack of scrutiny to make things seem more mysterious than they are to sell the idea there is some boogeyman out there. I like spooky stories as much as anyone else but we should really be honest about this. Most often the boogeyman is mental illness and misadventure.
The officer conducting the interview seems very aggressive considering he has no information. The fact that a retired officer, frankly, accused this man of murder without any facts or information other than his encounter is alarming to me. It's clear these people directly involved are off mentally a slight bit. I'm halfway through making this comment and it would seem to me they went on a walk while high on acid or shrooms or something and became lost and disoriented. The officer is not helping in any way. He even is trying to talk him into a confession. Very frightening. I hope these cops were fired to be honest.
@@gypsybill Wow, good insight. Yes, especially with him modifying the charges which made him look (oh) "Manslaughter", but when it started out as being SECOND DEGREE MURDER. So, yeah, that interview sure wasn't going in the right direction for our Buddy Eddie.
Hey, check it out. I hate cops. To a degree that would make all of you, liberal and conservative, uncomfortable. Think Mr Blonde from Reservoir Dogs. But Eddie is absolutely causing the cops to be harsh. The whole scenario is fairly odd and probably frankly overwhelming for a hick cop. The whole thing seems like it has layers. The top layers are just as they appear (hayseed meth head, good ol' boy sheriff) but something is up as you go deeper...
Well this case has turned from unbelievably mysterious to unbelievably funny....imagine listening to his story and then listening to the story of his sister few days later😅.... Although these investigators aren't much different from the guy who was lost
I agree! My only “complaint” is that there aren’t MORE videos! Seriously though, I know these types of videos take a lot of work to put together so I just wait patiently for new uploads. Great channel! 😊
Those cops were horrible. Cop: You're not under arrest, we just want to take your statement. Eddie: Well, ok, it's like this Cop: YOU DID IT!!! YOU KILLED HER!!! YOU KNOW YOU KILLED HER!!! JUST CONFESS NOW AND TELL US WHERE YOU BURIED THE BODY!!!
This is how most confessions are extracted. Cops will never tell you that you're suspected of a crime until after you've signed documents saying you admit to a crime.
It doesn’t have to be this way - but unfortunately most American Law Enforcement Offices prefer using the Reid method of interrogation! It has a high rate of false confessions - but apparently they don’t really care! There are other, far more reliable methods of interrogation, that doesn’t generate high rates of false confessions - but they lack the "aggression" that Reid offers, so maybe that’s why they’re not as popular in the US, as they are in Europe….
My question was “then why read him his Miranda rights” if not under arrest? That cop just aggravated the s**t out of me and I had to quit listening. He needs to go to school and learn his manners and how to communicate with others. He seemed to have some kind of distorted self perception as being “THE TOP DOG” or something. I don’t know but he verbally abused that man if you ask me
@@kaywaits4616 Yeah, that's because you're probably a normal person who doesn't feel LEO should be allowed to neither verbally abuse, or otherwise use unsound methods of interrogation - no matter how much they personally believe someone is guilty! However, the fact is, that most American LEO learn that they are "top-dogs", who can "read body language", use their "top-dogs senses" and "gut feelings", and similar invalid unscientific BS, to determine if someone is guilty. They also learn a certain method of interrogation called the Reid model. It's known for having a very high rate of false confessions compared to models based on establishing rapport, and using respectfulness while building trust and relation. But the models of interrogation that has been proven to create the most reliable results, all require that the LEO put that "top-dog" mentality away. Of course, that means they lack the aggressiveness that makes LEO have this gut feeling of being a bad ass tough on criminals cop who get shit done!! Just one more reason why USA is in dire need for huge reforms to law enforcement, the "justice" system, and the penal system. But in a nation who's been feeding on a long and nearly constant stream of cop-aganda and who's been told that an "eye for an eye" is the only way to justice, it isn't easy to make the systemic reforms the country needs so badly....
Sheesh, I don't know how anyone can interview a suspect who doesn't know if it's morning, noon or night unless he looks at a clock. It would be funny if it wasn't so obvious that Eddie was just so far out to sea. Probably went out to find a weed crop or a lab, got lost and thought they had to come up with a story. I mean...
People complain about the cops, but indulging people like Eddie only encourages more of such behaviour. There's enough of a problem with meth already. They don't think of how frustrating it must be for the officer to try get a coherent story that might be usable in court from someone whose brain is totally fried on drugs.
I used to live in the Ozarks of Arkansas, everyone knows not to go wandering in the woods because there are tons of weed crops and meth labs. There are snare traps set up by these growers and "chemists" for people who like to venture in their territory. I think you're right about the brother and sister looking for that stuff
Could you do a video on Tom Messick? The elderly hunter who disappeared within a few hundred feet from the other members of his hunting party (friends and family members) and was never seen again. That's a mystery that I can never seem to get out of my head. They reported they heard a strange sound, and then Tom never came back. What happened? It's like he disappeared into thin air.
Despite passing it off as hallucinating, his timeline and details of events seemed fairly consistent, even if the actions within his trip to the woods and external details (sister's spelling and age) didn't make sense.
I don’t agree. He was clearly making it up as he went. He couldn’t decide if the creek had water and people swimming or if it was dry, if it was day 2 night or day, he couldn’t get anything right as far as a timeline.
52:33 "...Long time ago." I knew he was going to say it again!!! I called it, and the pause was just long enough to make it hilarious. I laughed LOUDLY for several seconds.
Lol it’s funny that you mention that. Last hunting season my brother in law got lost in fog while trying to fetch water. Lost radio contact and everything. He somehow managed to make a loop back to deer camp. Everything went smoothly after that. But I remember hearing this narrators voice describing our potentially bad situation while we drove home lol.
The cops had clearly made up their minds that he was guilty way before they went into that interrogation, a brilliant example of why you should always shut up and ask for a lawer before talking to them
Ever retrieved the body of someone who could have been saved if someone called hours sooner? Minutes sooner? Ever had to explain to someone "I'm sorry, but when we made it to your uncle/father/son, it was too late." It's not fun. The frustration the Sheriff had here was valid.
@@EksaStelmereA lot of people who claim to work for law enforcement disagree. If you're in a law position, you shouldn't get needlessly frustrated with an innocent person. If you can't manage your emotions, you shouldn't be serving.
Shows me how hostile detectives who are already convinced of someone’s guilt, can use an interrogation to coerce a suspect who is disabled or lower IQ. Think about how many innocent individuals are in prison for life because they didn’t have the capacity to counter a seasoned detectives questions. Eddie would definitely be another one if his sister was never found. Sure Eddie might have mental health issues, and/or on going addiction exacerbating everything. Also getting lost, especially for that long, is taxing on your facilities. Doesn’t mean someone’s a killer. The detectives should have taken that into account before rushing to such a potentially severe judgment.
You bring up a good point that, whether Eddie was a drug addict or has mental disabilities or both or neither, he did not receive medical care after being lost in the woods for 3 days without food or water. So its actually conceivable that he truly was that dog tired, i.e., clinically exhausted and recovering from almost dying without ANY medical attention that he likely very much needed. (unless i missed a part where he went to a hospital after)
1). The way the police treated Eddie validates why Eddie didn’t want to call police. He has a prior record and realizes that if his sister isn’t found they’d pin it on him. 2). Families are all different. Sounds like Eddie, Linda, Barbara did drugs and lived a rough life. Some siblings from multiple parents have dysfunctional relationships that get pretty strange. Drugs, Poison Berries, even incest are possibilities here. They are in the middle of nowhere.
@@bigwezzGod there always has to be a virtue signaling freak. He didn’t say he would do the same thing in the situation he was trying to compassionate this man.
Women often change their names when they get married. My two sisters and I have three different last names and including my brother who has the family last name (now 4 last names). All have same parents.
The police being sure he killed her helped make this seem more incoherent than it was. Had he been able to just lay it out without interruptions basically they got lost then hallucinated then got separated. He didnt call because after he got back and got mad at his other sister she said she would call then he went to sleep.
Ableist. And there was at least one. Her name was Gracie and she was so neglected that she never even acquired language. The curve gets wider behind closed doors.
That Investigator was the absolute worst interviewer I've ever heard and among the least professional. I was a prosecutor for 10 years and have been in criminal defense for the last 7. This guy has no business being a police officer, much less an investigator. He has no clue how to deal with people. He came into the interview with a theory of the case that this suspect had murdered his sister, and he wouldn't accept any other possibility. Everything he said to the suspect was suggestive of his pre-conceived notions and just unhinged. Successful, experienced law enforcement officers are prepared to go wherever the evidence leads them. The investigator must've just thought if he kept screaming, interrupting, and generally berating the suspect on irrelevant details of the case then he'd just get a confession. It's sad that he got so far into his career without being corrected by superiors or prosecutors (or defense lawyers and trial judges) he worked with. There's no way this was an isolated incident either. He's been doing this (or likely much, much worse) his entire career. He knew the man he was interviewing had a poor educational background, as well as mental health disabilities and potentially substance abuse issues; and the investigator aimed to exploit all those things to get a confession exactly conforming to his pre-conceived notions, irrespective of any actual evidence. He wouldn't even let the man get a word in because he wasn't interested in actually getting a statement. Therefore, it would've been a crappy interview even if he had browbeat this obviously disabled or impaired man into confessing. There's a huge problem with people who have mental, emotional, or intellectual disabilities falsely confessing to crimes they didn't commit, especially when interrogations are myopically suggestive or overly belligerent to the point of bullying (such as here). Certainly police can and should occasionally be confrontational during an interview, but it was beyond useless here. And worse still, as is so often the case when police have tunnel vision toward one particular suspect, theory, or outcome, they wasted crucially valuable time searching for the sister. Thankfully, she.was found okay. But they didn't even classify the search effort as a "Search and Rescue," they listed it as a "Search and Recovery" because they believed that she was dead. Granted, the brother's story (at least what we could hear of it over the shouting of Arkansas' most inept policeman, was certainly suspicious, but there was absolutely no corroborating physical evidence or witnesses indicating foul play at that point. This could've turned out much, much worse and resulted in a miscarriage of justice.
I love that you go back and find more information on these. I’m halfway through and I’m starting to think it was not at all what it seems at the beginning. The brothers interview was very eye opening
Seems like the "grapes" he was talking about might have been muscadines - kind of just like a wild, tart grape. They're pretty common around here. And where he didn't understand why there would be actual grapes in Arkansas - on the western side of the state in and around Altus, they have several vineyards and wineries - seems like some of them are owned and operated by Mennonites. But yeah, at least from my perspective - having fallen into the world of meth addiction for a couple of years and becoming very familiar and well versed with the mannerisms, subtleties and intricacies of meth heads and how they act, think, rationalize and operate - this dude really seems like a clear and textbook meth head. There are several things that make me think that - his convoluted story, how he speaks and constructs sentences and ideas, etc. - but the thing that kind of screams it to me is how he just went to sleep when he got home. I remember that being a common theme with myself and everyone else around - we'd get geetered out, stay up for at least a week on the short end and upwards of two weeks on the high end (21 days for me my first time) and eventually, you just start falling asleep like instantly, right in the middle of whatever you're doing - right in the middle of a conversation, driving, eating, etc. I guess there could be other explanations but the fact that his sister is lost in the woods and he supposedly cares about her but goes to sleep instead of calling the cops seems to hint at coming down and crashing off meth. And that could also explain pretty much everything else too. Maybe something kind of like meth induced folie a deux or just general meth psychosis. Still kind of a weird, unsettling story though.
Yes bc the detectives already had their narrative of what happened and they would have put this guy in prison for life if they didn’t end up finding Linda alive ! It just goes to show that there are detectives out there putting innocent people in prison bc they don’t give a dang about truth they want a name for themselves and to close a case but this case is disgusting how the detectives are talking to him and they know he isn’t bright enough to ask for an attorney and end the thugs questioning him!! So sad!!
I see you've never had to explain to someone that their dad/aunt/cousin is dead because they didn't get on the phone hours, or even minutes sooner. Retrieving bodies knowing there was a reasonable chance to save someone is cause for frustration.
Extremely frustrating interview. "No hold on a minute..when did you separate?" "That's what I said, we went together." Basically chasing this story around meeting different NPCs for nearly 3 hours
I live in Central Arkansas. I can tell you that in North Arkansas, there are people in the Ozark foothills that are isolative and would indeed likely ignore people they perceive as outsiders. That could possibly explain the encounters described here. Also, it's very believable that law enforcement here WOULD charge someone with manslaughter for simply owning the weapon used in a suicide. This allows them to appear authorative and efficient in the eyes of the public, or so they reason.
Drugs and some form of learning difficulty will explain all of this, no need to consider anything paranormal. I would suggest the reason Eddie sounds confused is because Eddie is confused. He is also extremely lucky that his sister was found alive.
Thank you for this great video. I’ve heard the first part of the story many times, on different Paranormal channels. It’s been treated as an actual paranormal encounter. This is the first time I’ve heard about this bizarre family, drug use, Eddie’s crazy story, etc. I appreciate all your extra research.
the classic "sensationalism vs fact". many times the temptation to sensationalise stories bury the actual truth. I appreciate this channel going to the lengths of digging into the real facts and giving us a more factual presentation.
People come up with fantastic stories that are hard to believe. I think most times they're delirious. This was a weird one for sure. Thank you for your presentations. They're level headed and factual. Much better than other channels in my opinion. Often times the biggest boogeyman man is in our heads. The real creatures and true stories are frightening enough without speculation and embellishments. Thank you for all your thorough work!
Whether that was a legitimately paranormal expreience or they were just on drugs, and notwithstanding the incredible lack of professionalism and productive interviewing by the cops, that was one hummdinger of a weird tale hes telling. Thank you.
@@balzaak4803 He doesn’t seem to care that she is in the middle of the woods without food or water which can result in death in as little as 3 days. He couldn’t even be bothered to call for help when he got home and realized she was still lost. He’s a lot more than confused.
Eddie might have been able to tell a coherent story if the cops hadn’t interrupted every sentence. The cops were clearly hostile and it’s no wonder Eddie was confused. Granted, it’s a very strange case no matter what.
I get what the officer was trying to do but he seems like he already believes that this was a murder case and is trying forcibly to get a confession. He also seems like he has a personal vendetta against this Eddie guy.
Eddie seems to have a mental disorder and people tend to look down on them and treat them very badly. Seems like the cop already had it made up in his head Eddie did something to his sister.
Jesus, do you guys just randomly comment and not read other people's comments? There's always answers there. This is NOT the first interview of Eddie - he's already told his story at least once before we saw this edited version, so when they insist he changed the story, he probably did, but we didn't see it. Get it? Not giving the cops a free pass, but this guy would get annoying after hours and hours of dealing with him
This is completely nutters! One wonders whether these people were even related, and if so, then how? Or perhaps I don't want to know. It's certainly easy to understand the frustration of the police. Eddie was clearly being cagey when questioned, and one gets the sense that there's a lot he's choosing not to say. In any case, I think you've covered this strange story incredibly well. Cheers!
Listening to the lawman treat eddie so poorly and trying to gaslight him was really tough to listen to. The man clearly isn’t well and recently went through quite the ordeal.
Listening to this interview got me to thinking of a family that would frequent the ER where I worked as a nurse. There were 3 siblings, one sister and two brothers. When talking with any one of them, you would leave them more confused than ever, just like the guy in this interview. The three siblings had different fathers but the same mother. You could say that their cornbread wasn't quite done in the middle, if you get my meaning. The brothers would come in with serious injuries because they would be fighting over who was to sleep with their mother and I don't mean actual sleeping. I'm sure that there was some inbreeding in the family of the guy that was being interviewed. There are some real doozies out there.
I'm currently sitting with 3 stitches, had an x-ray, a tetanus shot and have extensive bruising, yet I'm 101% happier I was on the patient side of A&E than your side of it! Holy moly, there are some scary Mary's out there😂
And it turned out his story was 100% true (from eddies hallucinating perspective anyways) they both ate toxic berries thinking they were edible and started hallucinating and got lost and separated. They found her 5 days later alive and she fully corroborated what her brother told police including the shared hallucinations
AMEN! Your version of events is BY FAR the most plausible. Powderheads wandering around in the woods- that obese doing 5 miles? No way! No food? No water? No logic? Won't ask for help? BEG FOR HELP? Seeing the same shadow people? Didn't even report her missing? There is no damn way they weren't completely tweakin' out of their minds. They are druggy idiots! No other explanation!
They should play this interview for police detectives as an example of why you should not make the same assumptions when interviewing a mentally slow person as you would if interviewing a person of average or above avg intellect.
I am doubting that Eddie is a "mentally slow person." Eddie is as consistent in his ramblings as the detectives are in their conviction that Eddie killed his sister and left her body in the woods.
@@user-mv9tt4st9k Whatever consistency does exist is a there because Eddy is trying to tell the truth. However, I don't think he would score even an average level of intellect on any diagnostic. This is not meant as an insult, it certainly is not his fault that he wasn't born a genius.
There are so many idiots like this, I was surprised to hear the cop say in all his years he never heard a story like this. I have witnessed multiple idiots doing these kinds of shenanigans. They probably knew full well that these berries would give them a type of high in small doses. If poisoned by berries, he would have felt nauseous and anxious and had diarrhea, which would have increased dehydration and would have sped up the time frame of being disorientated in the woods, and later a rebound effect of immobility and relaxation while still in a state of agitation, explaining the delay of being coherent enough to have empathy for his sister. She probably eat the berries as well, considering her story but had less effect due to her being a female with more body fat. Cops need more education. People make decisions on the fly, all the time. They don’t always use rational logic and think things through especially when bored.
A mentally slow person who is also a meth addict. You conveniently left that part out, but it's an incredibly important part as to why this situation happened, and why this interview is the way it is.
Eddie sounds pretty bad but the real terrifying thing is that the law enforcement officials sound even worse. Eddie actually corrects the guy at times!
It’s the Reid method of interrogation - mostly used in the US! It’s pure shit! But brilliant if you want false confessions, or rather, don’t care about if the confessions are false, as long as you get one!
@@ryman1933meh….i simply don’t think this cop was competent or intelligent enough to do anything other than act aggressively. Kind of common back then…and the cop sounds just as moronic as Ed.
@@freeman7079 not really, the guy is telling a unbelievable story and acted incredibly suspiciously, making himself the prime suspect of a possible murder. The cop was putting constant pressure on him to try and crack him. The guy even had a previous conviction involving murder. Not much else for the cop to suspect really.
Due to the fact the people that were involved in this story are safe and sound I have to say listening to Eddie was absolutely hysterical!😂😂😅 I needed a good laugh. Thanks so much for never letting me down!❤
There are some great colloquialisms in that same vein. Another of my favorites: someone very angry may have "a ring-tailed fit." I have no idea where that came from, but I use that one as often as possible. (I actually read that in either Time or Newsweek magazine in describing Monica Lewinsky's reaction to being blocked outside the White House while Bill Clinton was "in a meeting" with Eleanor Mondale. It sounds like a country expression, but who knows where the writer of that article heard it.)
@@josi4251 Another Southern expression you may enjoy, when speaking of someone unusually exuberant or just extra jolly about something: "Happier than a sissy with a bag of dicks." There is a lady podcaster that uses this term a lot and I love when she says it with her accent. LOL.
I read this comment right when "... dog ass tired..." came up in the conversation. Of course that was before the interviewing officer finally lost it with Eddie's tweaker ramblings and complete inability to explain his total lack of responsibility... Which was before the second officer used an outdated reference to children that would probably get my comment flagged. 😂😂😂😂
Dang listening to Eddie talk gave me a pain in my brain...jeezy peezy how can someone be so confusing!! Great video!! This is the first time I have heard this story told in such detail. Usually the storyteller sticks to the eerie part of it but don't tell the whole story. Weird is not a good enough word for this one!
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Only a moron would listen to this full interview and think he killed his sister.. it was overly obvious to me the man has a low IQ which usually will be considered low level retardation and the pigs were pushing a narrative in his head and doing their best to make him cop to it.. these Oklahoma hicks aren’t much smarter (clearly) but they were intimidating this guy and making him nervous. I hope he got the last laugh with these tyrants.. they deserve only one thing..too bad it’s illegal to give it to’em.
they didnt drug test them? surely they ran a drug test at the hospital
@@TheKingsJarlI THINK THAT YOU ARE ENTIRELY RIGHT ABOUT THIS SITUATION AND IT IS A DAMN SHAME THAT THEY CAN LEGALLY DO THAT AND GET AWAY WITH IT, BECAUSE IF ANYONE DOES NOT KNOW THIS... THE US SUPREME COURT HAS ALREADY RULED THAT THE POLICE CAN LIE, TRICK AND MISLEAD YOU INTO TELLING ON YOURSELF... THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER TALK TO THE PIGS WITHOUT A LAWYER PRESENT AND REMEMBER TO ASK FOR A LAWYER, EVEN IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD ONE THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU A COURT APPOINTED ONE AND ONCE YOU ASK THEM FOR ONE THEN THEY HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY STOP TALKING TO YOU, PERIOD! LOOK IT UP,WEST LAW BOOKS
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Sounds like a case of shadow people.
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the phrase milky creek road is now burned into my mind wtf
@mehrimazedehI read that in the creepy Mrballen voice😂
Speaking as an ex criminal investigator of many years, the investigator questioning the guy really sucks at his job, had a bad attitude, and only made things worse.
I don't have your past experties yet i thought similarly.
I spent more than half my life in that part of the Ozarks and I know how spooky things can be there. But the investigator fellow, where is he from that he doesn't know about fox grapes? They are everywhere. In some places you find muscadines. If the grapes were red they might have been something else, fox grapes are the little ones, black when ripe.
He sounds like Barney Fife. I kept waiting on Sheriff Andy to walk in and take over the situation. 😂
@@SomeoneSomewhere1984 More like Boss Hogg or Rosco P. Coltrane, to me. Maybe 2 or 3 more brain cells than his suspect, if that.
@@audreymuzingo933 I forgot about them. I think you’re right. 😂
This interrogation is hysterical. The cop is just besides himself and the brother sounds so earnest and calm rofl.
At first I was really annoyed with the tone the cop was taking with him, but the more I listened the more I understood. 😂
It sounds like a sitcom lol
It sounds like a Reno 911 skit lmao
Like trying to explain to Patrick Star you found his wallet.
@@donnylurch4207 Dead on, rofl
Sounds like they got pixie-led! I wonder if the 'grapes' they were eating were atropa belladonna berries. They would have been fruiting around the time they were missing, although I don't know if they grow in that part of the world. It might explain why they were seeing strange things.
Fancy seeing the goat here
Black nightshade grows in Arkansas. It has dark berries that could be confused for grapes. They certainly sound like they were tripping.
As someone who abused meth in the past (been clean 11 years now), the second I heard Eddie open his mouth in the interview I thought, "this guy is high in meth." Then hearing the comment about Linda searching out a meth house, combined with the poor decision to leave the road, the immediate onset of hallucinations, and the decision to walk somewhere so far away with no provisions seemingly on the spur of the moment, I became even more convinced that drugs were involved. Part of me even wonders if Eddie wanted Linda to die out there and it just didn't happen that way. I'd have to know more about their personal lives- whether they disliked each other, or there was financial motives, etc.
Long story short, what a weird case! Great job covering it!
this sounds like a good explanation to why eddie didn't call right away the next day, maybe he was high on meth/ getting meth and didn't want to admit it to cops
Great job, going c!ean.
Yeah, I thought that same thing. The choices they make were not based on reason and logic. That was reeking of tweaker sh*t.
I haven’t used it but I’ve witnessed everything you’ve mentioned. I agree this was a meth induced psychosis episode for both of them.
Meth and a lot of mushrooms.
This. I, too, know much about the drug.
Good thing for Eddie that Linda was found. All I could think while listening to that recording was, "Shut up and get a lawyer."
It is a good thing for Eddie that Linda was found. Its also a God answered PRAYER for Linda.. that Linda was found!
All I could think while listening to that recording was "Shut up & listen to his story 1ST.. then get a competent investigator to cross exami.. actually so a professional interrogation can even BEGIN"
they are onto him too tough and it deffo affected the interview
Agreed. This is the perfect example of why you NEVER talk to the police, innocent or guilty. If you are going to, at least have an attorney present. They will try to hem you up every chance they get. Not knocking them for that, just noting how they typically operate. There is nothing wrong with telling them that you are more than willing to cooperate but will only do so with an attorney present.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. This guy 100% would of gotten life in prison if she died or was never found.
Arkansas cops were gonna pin every unsolved crime in the County on that poor guy
Let me start by saying I been clean for 5 years and 5 months now… heavy pain pill and cocaine snorter. I tried to quit everything cold Turkey, and I was hallucinating by the second day. I was talking to people that no one else could see. This story sounds like this to me. Nobody in their right mind would head out like they did with no supplies and dip off into the woods like that when it got dark. Drugs are 100% involved.
Good theory. This could hold more weight, or even work in tandem with, the berry theory!
Ps. Congratulations on getting clean!
Could also be sleep deprivation. After even 2 days without sleep you can start hallucinating some weird stuff. I would know. It cost me my drivers license on the first test.
Yup. One word explains everything…meth.
I assume they made him do a urine test? Meth would show up there. I would even request a tox screen for other drugs as well or for tropane plant alkaloids that are known deliriants like atropine.
Congratulations, I'm really happy for you on your sobriety. I'm struggling right now and getting prepared to make the jump. I'm not addicted to street drugs but what I'm using is hurting me mentally and physically and I'm just done with it. I'm so tired. Been addicted for 4 years. I'm still a young man and I want to get this taken care of while I still have my whole life ahead of me. I just want a second chance in life and I swear on everything, I'll never allow myself to get back to this awful place. If you don't mind me asking, how did you quit? What was your system? Did you taper, get on Suboxone? When did you start feeling better like you got over the worst of it, week, two weeks?
The interrogator sounded annoyed from the beginning. He was already treating the suspect like he was guilty and was trying to piece a crime rather than conduct an investigation. He wasn't doing his job, he was going off of what the former investigator told him instead of letting the man tell his story from beginning to end without bias toward him.
You’re not wrong, but the brother’s behavior makes absolutely no sense. So his known behavior, coupled with his nonsensical words, and his inability to plead the fifth…. It’s just nonsense. Drug fueled nonsense that makes everyone else’s jobs so much harder. He’s basically the poster boy of drug addiction and mental illness either cause by or exacerbated from the same.
I lost 5 years of life listening to his ramblings and I genuinely want to sue the brother for negligent infliction of emotional distress.
@@adamb.c.1553the cop was the problem in that interrogation. The brother had his issues but the cop made the whole thing useless.
Cops are in the business of putting us in cages. He wants to get a confession and if it's a false confession.... even better.
It sounds to me like this officer who doesn't seem very well trained in interrogation is why so many folks with mental issues end up in prison. Entrapment is a real issue. They already decided before they ever spoke to him. Which obviously didn't help the situation.
I feel the same way Eddie is slow ..and maybe he's on meth too...they need to start looking for her wtf is wrong w these cops
I’m not even trying to be funny, the officer sounds like he has some mental issues himself. He speaks and thinks in the same way as Eddie.
@@TheQuantumPotato I got that from him to they both barely spoke English could’ve been a cultural thing. Either way they wasted enough time, not searching for her shame on her brother for not calling the cops immediately after getting out of the woods
@@jarvisedwin5175 True but "Barb" could have just as easily called, during the 3 days they were BOTH missing, or after Eddie got back. I'd really like to hear what her interview sounded like.
You can't really blame them. He's clearly a tweaker, who left his sister starving and dehydrated in the woods and didn't bother to call authorities. And his story sounds suspicious as hell even if it's true. They would be stupid to assume that there was no foul play.
No offense to Eddie, but this interview made me imagine Patrick Starr explaining how he got lost on some adventure. Glad Linda was found, and thank you for covering this strange case
It’s not my wallet
No!! This is Patrick!
@@mattacostaguitar4048 Man Ray: Aren't you Patrick Starr?
Patrick: Yep.
Man Ray: And this is your ID.
Patrick: Yep
Man Ray: I found this ID in this wallet, and if that's the case, then this must be your wallet.
Patrick: Makes sense to me.
Man Ray: Then take your wallet.
Patrick: It's not my wallet.
Man Ray: OH YOU DIMBOB, TAKEBACK YOUR WALLET OR I'LL RIP YOUR ARMS OFF!@#@
"Yes.yes.yes.yes" said in response with no hesitation and no greater understanding of the situation he's in. I thought of Patrick at that part lmao.
Patrick Star being interviewed by Junior from Reno 911
I met a guy that was convinced his wife had a man living in his walls with a remote controlled vibrator in his wife. he would freak out and claim she moaned louder for the wall man then him and cut huge holes in the wall searching for the man and eventually died of heart failure at 35.
the craziest part of this story, when I first met the guy he was a decent guy with 3 daughters, wife, home paid for, & owner of a construction company. he was a good guy. He started using meth for whatever reason and within 6 months he went crazy and nothing could bring him back. His wife lost everything trying to get him help but his mind was too far gone.
meth makes people non human. they lose all ability of self-preservation yet somehow it all makes sense to them. I have no doubt meth was involved in the story.
That is really sad
Not everyone. Meth is an accelerant, just like all drugs. They only magnify the person you already were and fast track your destiny, whatever that may be. They don't create new parts of you, and they don't dehumanize you.
yep no doubt, it creates a totally diff person, lets the devil all the way in if you ask me. p.s. did he find the guy in the wall, i'd bet he snuck out from a diff part of the house!! nah just a joke, but your right, messing with really any kind of drug opens portals for demonic oppression, not medicinal, but the party kind taken for no need other than to feel good or numb.
So he was just schizophrenic
More precisely it's the lack of sleep that causes the auditory hallucinations. But yeah I agree meth addiction is terrible
Edit:that's why not letting a person sleep in considered torture by the Geneva Conventions
I used to be a 911 dispatcher, during which time I had the opportunity to have some fairly long conversations with many types of people. This sounds very much like a person who probably had some pre-existing mental health issues that have been heavily exacerbated by meth use. Meth seemingly has this weird property of greatly magnifying delusional tendencies. Eddie's interrogation reminds me of a fellow I talked to who called 911, speaking in a whisper, asking for animal control. He didn't want to say why, but when pressed let me know in a _very_ roundabout way that there were lions stalking him in his house. Of course nothing about my statement is scientific, just my opinion based on experience.
Man, druggies tell some wild stories. This guy that I used to live across the street from would get doped up on something, he would then see a kid walk by and hallucinate that the pine tree in his front yard had bent a branch down and grabbed a kid, pulled him up to a mouth that opened in the trunk and swallowed the kid whole. He believed in what he saw sooo badly that whenever a kid would walk or ride a bike down the sidewalk in front of his house, he would run out of his house screaming incoherently about the child eating pine tree.
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Please stop. No fkn drug will cause shared hallucinations. They were also drug tested.
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I would guess that you’re probably right.
Eddie Huff sounds like he's mentally disabled, to be frank. He underestimates his sister's age by 25 years, gets easily confused, doesn't think of obvious solutions, and doesn't recognize his mistakes until it's pointed out *very* clearly to him. Drugs are probably a factor too, but this guy and his sister seem to struggle with basic thinking and communication even when we *know* that they're sober. Eddie doesn't even seem to grasp *what* the Officers are accusing him of, including quite humorously in the "russian roulette with a 9mm" incident, Eddie doesn't realize that playing russian roulette with a semi-automatic pistol is guaranteed death (just like the several people who are known to have died in just that manner, funnily enough)
Meth does that to the brain.. holes in the head.
"''doesn't seem to grasp' what a nice choice of words, I'll repeat this excessively" -
Myself, 43 minutes ago -_-
I mean, he does use words like "finicky" and "bizarre." Just pretty hard to understand wtf is going on at all. The interrogator is not helpful, although I get why he is struggling.
The only way you could play Russian Roulette with a semiautomatic would be if someone else packed the clip and included random blanks (starter pistol blanks, or spent shells) among the live rounds. Even so, it's a stupid way to commit suicide. Same thing as flipping a coin whether to hang youself or not.
I have worked with hundreds of people with intellectual disabilities and several of them just try to keep the conversation going no matter what. Making stuff up on the spot like this is common in this group of people.
I wonder if the "grapes" he ate were actually pokeweed berries that caused him to hallucinate.
That was exactly my first thought combined with low intelligence and lack of food and water. I also believe he probably saw a guy on a horse but he was probably older than he said and the guy on the horse couldn’t understand him or get any kind of useful information out of him. This guy is still really struggling imagine in the midst of all this how bad he would’ve been. Probably thought he was a weirdo tweaker
Yeah these people are clearly inbred and ate some poison berries
hahaha probably. Most indigenous grapes I've seen were fruitless "Miners Lettice" unless near an old homestead.
It actually sounds like he IS a weirdo tweaker and the cop sounds like he knows it...@@erockstoenescu6171
Yeah theres been alot of speculation about whether or not they accidentally consumed something that made them hallucinate. And that seems to be the case here.
I think it would be interesting if someone with knowledge of what to eat and what not to eat, and which things might be hallucinogenic, could go to the area and find out if anything like that grows there
A new Missing Enigma video is always a treat. Hearing that intro tune is a nice little dopamine hit.
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Mood!!
Wow what a *PERFECT way to describe it: a nice little dopamine hit👌👏🏽👍💯 *EXACTLY!!! 🌞💊🥳✌
Ahh that Arkansas meth will rot your mind and your teeth !
Agree 😂
23:38 the cop says "when two ppl hallucinate they don't see the same thing".
He's obviously never done acid, because suggestive hallucinations is EXACTLY what happens. Your friend sees/hears something, talks about it, now you're hallucinating it too.
This channel is criminally undersubbed. Excellent work as always, sir!
I think the majority of RUclips users that like the missing in the woods type content really, really want to believe in paranormal explanations......this channel does not fulfill that need. I think the guy does excellent, exceptional work, bringing the facts to light like no other.
Commenting on all his videos helps, thankfully
There are just too many other channels that cater to viewers who don't know how to think critically. That anyone would even consider the unsubstantiated account of someone under these circumstances is ridiculous. There's no story here. The woman had a traumatic experience, was clearly dehydrated, traumatized, and terrified. Without any evidence to corroborate her story, it was a complete hallucination.
I've spent nights in the woods and so have a lot of people I know. You might here a strange noise, see a fleeting shadow, feel like you're being watched, or even hear whispers. Often when your view of the world is like an incomplete puzzle, your brain fills in the missing pieces and draws on your fears to do it.
@@rockinbobokkin7831he is tearing down the mysterious allure that made me interested in the missing phenomenon. And I appreciate that. I am gradually losing my hesitance to go camping alone like I used to many years ago.
@@rockinbobokkin7831Lore Lodge is similar, but less succinct and isn't against considering paranormal stuff, but usually tries to debunk anything "paranormal" and tries to find logical conclusions. Loves talking about the paranormal stuff tho
As a former State Trooper myself, when interviewing someone you would be better off getting his basic story first. Then go into the details. Every time the Detective asked a leading question, like if he asked the guy for water, Eddie says he did ask him for water. Why didn't you go down to the creek for water? Yeah, the next day I went for water. Every logical suggestion the detective made Eddie added to his story. A good question would have been, where were you going on this long walk? They may be in the full interview but I didn't hear it. I think he either left her out there hoping she would die, or they were off to the drug man and got lost. Either way Eddie's a liar. Don't lead your suspects. That kind of helped Eddie craft a better story than he started with. Just my two cents
Yeah, he also interrupted Eddie a lot in order to feed him the more logical responses... If you wanted to catch someone in the ultimate lie, wouldn't you (metaphorically) let them dig themselves into a deep hole and then cast them then cast a truth/logic net over them? The officer conducting the interview was completely unprofessional! There is a reason the supreme court states that "every person is innocent until proven guilty" If Eddies actually had been guilty of murdering Linda (like the officers clearly believed), but Eddie had gotten a fairly competent lawyer, the case probably would have been easily dismissed due to the officer's unprofessionalism.
Oh boy! I can't imagine what the unedited version is like. My hats off to the professionals who have to deal with people of all kinds.🤓👏🏾😝
Eddie's an addict they are all liars, especially to themselves.
It just felt like the detective this whole time just wanted to pin it on him didn't even know if a crime had happened yet but he wanted Eddie to go down for it😂
YEAH, there was a point where he said "When I left" not "When she left", which would have matched his story. That part made my ears perk up.
When dealing with a witness/suspect, it's important to never underestimate how stupid people can be. It may seem suspicious (and should be considered) but also it's just being stupid.
Exactly this. The cop totally approached this the wrong way
Never attribute to malice what you can just as easily attribute to stupidity.
That he's a moron that ate 'little red grapes' he found in the woods might explain the hallucinating...
The same goes for that cop doing the interrogation, I almost thought I was listening to a comedy sketch at times, that's how incompetent of a cop he sounded like lol
Working in healthcare I have run into people like this.
" You're confusing the hell out of me!"
I felt that in my soul.
I'm screaming laughing can't breathe right now when you said "claimed she was almost 30 years old. In reality Linda Ortega was in her 50s" 😂😂😂😂😂
He's not real bright. Obviously !!!
Perhaps they were just rounding down? I know people I graduated from high school with, who now claim to be 10 years younger than me... and they will forget we went to school together and say something like "I can't believe I hit my forties!" All I can think of is... you must have bounced and hit them twice!
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No offense to anyone involved, but if you’ve ever wondered what it’s like trying to drag a coherent story out someone who is both low IQ and a heavy Methamphetamine abuser, it’s just like this.
The cop or the suspect 😂😂😂
The sheriff needed to just let Eddie talk. He was doing fine, there was no need to drag anything out of him. The sheriff was the worst interrogator ever.
@@SnarkNSass LOL! Both!
@@PumpkinPatchVintage Thank You!!!!
@@PumpkinPatchVintage 100%! The cops need to do some serious soul searching because they did nothing but make the situation worse. I don't blame them for being suspicious, but they were ineffective as interrogators.
Omg, I almost spit out my water when he read Bill Beach's email. "Hey, just letting you know there's a family full of crazies..." 😂😂😂
I'm sure that's what our local cops think of us ... ;-)
And it's in Comic Sans
"I know it might be unchristan of me to say, but these people are wack"
@@drewthedweeeb It is.
@@louiseanderson1505 Absolutely Louise, just like the 11th commandment says: "Thou shalt sugar coat the truth"
When the Rooster crows on Milky Creek Road, run for your life ‘cause Eddie & Linda are most likely out hiking and hallucinating!
OMG😂😂😂😂😂
halluc'na'n
ON MILY CREEK ROOOAD!
Bahahaha
LMAO stop
Naw they still looking for the meth house.....the horse and rooster are the drug dealers
My word that sheriff is infuriating! One can easily tell Buddy is "challenged", so just let him tell you what he needs to in his terms. THEN you can pick it apart all you want. That guy thought he was going toe to toe with Hannibal Lecter 🤦🏽♀️
Who's Buddy
@@Sandi-zh2wx The guy being interviewed by the Sheriff.
Somewhere, in some parallel universe, a young 18 or 19 year old "cowboy" has called the police, telling them about a very strange encounter with a weird dude, who walked out of the forest, saying he and his sister are lost and he needed directions.....
After eating weird tiny red berrries.
On milky creek road.
In a parallel universe, I bet asking for directions is illegal.
@@onesunnyday5699grapes!
@@derbdep it's probably creek milk road
This has got to be one of the funniest detective interviews I ever heard. I was dying laughing because you do meet people deep out there who are this level of slow/drugged/some sort of weird and you feel like the sheriff when they're trying to tell you an insane story
My favorite quote from the detective was about how “even the little retarded kids know to dial 911!” I laughed loud enough to wake my wife up from the living room! 😂🤣 Even now, sitting here with 2 black eyes, I’m still laughing!
I think the sherriff has a lower iq than the guy hes interviewing
Yeah, typical know-it-all, power drunk cop. Sure, Eddie isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but that “detective” is worse because he thinks he’s the smartest fucking guy in the world. At least Eddie recognizes his limitations.
@darthdesec true, he makes an impression like the smart guy in stupidtown.
😂😂😂😂😅 I was hoping I'd find another comment like this. I was laughing until tears came out😂
You can visualize detectives head nearly explode off his shoulders 😂
Synopsis:
Linda had brown shoelaces,
but the salad I ate only had 2 cherry tomatoes.
Anyways, the roof was painted red in 1973,
but I got angry with myself and my neighbors friends cat
came over looking for a lost Lego piece.
I bet the missing Lego was a white slant .
I like your synopsis!
Reminds me of a meme, the one with the bearded child, saying nonsense about mushrooms & ducks.
Thanks for making this clear for me. I was getting lost. 😆
The way I see it is this: they either walked to school, or carried their lunch. On the other hand, they might have just had their pants pressed. At any rate, the flapjacks on top of the telephone poles know the real story.
Occam's razor and all, I think they were tripping balls before they set foot out the door. They seem to have hallucinated the entire road and everything that followed. Eddie probably wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree to begin with, and drug abuse seems to have impaired what few neurons he does have.
Guys, don't fall for this trolling. Psychedelic drugs don't "destroy brain cells," they help you live a happier life and are extremely safe, far safer than alcohol, that's for sure. They're like weed.
As mentioned above in this thread, the guy sounds like he's on meth, which is indeed a really destructive drug that you should avoid. And there's a ton of meth in Arkansas. It's known to cause "delusions," and of course he would lie to the police about it.
I agree 👍
Yeah, I’d go with that, too.
Exactly. Me and my girl are watching this and I said to her, they were on drugs from the beginning.
Pretty much what I was thinking too. Always Occam it with stories like these and they stop being a mystery. People like mysteries.
Eddie may simply be an unintelligent person. Badgering him only adds to his confusion.
I suspect it's low intelligence mixed with drug use. My late uncle (bless him) never did drugs but he wasn't the smartest guy and sometimes getting a straight story out of him was like listening to this guy, especially if he was agitated. I think they were out walking, doing drugs, hallucinated a "shortcut", and got lost. He didn't want to tell the police they'd been doing drugs, which is why the cops were suspicious. They could tell there was a lie there, but I think they thought he was lying about the wrong thing-- they suspected murder, I suspect meth.
Definitely methed out to the extreme.
@@HiNRGboy who, the friend he was accused of killing? Because the sister lived. But, yes, he may have killed the friend.
@@angeladonoghue9010 No I just deleted my comments lol... I assumed too quickly that he had killed the sister, without watching the last part where we find out she's actually alive.
The cop should have immediately ended the conversation with this person...
Meth users commonly discuss something called 'shadow people'. I'm inclined to believe there's a simple explanation for this, and that's it. As others have suggested you have two very unintelligent folks doing a LOT of meth over a long period of time and they simply were seeing shadow people. Heck, even if they weren't doing meth and were simply up for a very long time. This is a common side affect of that.
Many people who aren’t tired and are not on meth have all so seen shadow people
Well if you understand why god wants you to fast then you’ll understand why she seen these things. Fasting brings you closer to god, bc your body is dying with food, or water so your closer to that dimension, or frequency. Makes perfect sense if you think about it.
I just added this comment that’s above and i believe meth users do the same thing, they don’t eat or drink fluids
Yes, I’ve heard the psychologist Gerry Marzinski talk about this
Well, the Bible doesn't call it sorcery for nothing. All you brainiacs acting like the supernatural doesn't exist. The djinn exist. Stories like the one you're listening to are common throughout history and present day long before drugs existed. Only God and the name of Jesus will save you
The fact that people tried to pass this off as something paranormal pretty much sums up why I don't take the 'Missing 411' thing seriously. Everything seems mysterious if you don't look into it critically.
The amount of people who are genuinely surprised a cop would be terrible at his job is astounding
As a lifelong prolific criminal I wholeheartedly agree. Cops are terrible at their jobs. Rather than release me and let me go free, they always arrest me and take me to the cells!! 😭😂
@@kayeb222you don’t have to eat the whole boot when your licking it bru
You mean ever cop ever?
@@kayeb222except police have continually failed to catch real prolific criminals.
@@pillbugm8914because the most prolific criminals have the riches to buy their way out of trouble. They set the system up that way from it's inception.
Just goes to show that by judging this fellow by his crazy story and his past criminal records, it would be easy to assume he is responsible for his sister being missing. Had she not turned up, he very likely would have been persecuted at the least and probably even prosecuted. Very strange case indeed.
gotsda blame someone to take the credit 🤌
And, with this crazy interview being recorded, I do not know if the Guy (Eddie) would have had many defenses during the trial. Story sounds so fishy and unbelievable.
@@PoeLemic I'm angry at him for leaving the main road. He thought he knew better, but man, what a smooth brained conkwocket. Then he didn't call the cops to report his sister missing when he got back! What kind of person just goes to bed like that? Eddie is not a good person.
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@@PoeLemicif Epstein’s death is believable anything is.
I was able to follow his story and I’m amazed at how calm and sincere Eddie was, the cop was just too emotional. This interview was like a movie script and I did laugh at parts. They talk to him like he’s normal person with logic, but he obviously lacks critical thinking and that’s why the cops get so triggered. They can’t grasp that Eddie is thinking on a different plane of existence.
That they got emotional over the chance they could have saved a life makes perfect sense to me. My job pretty much always ended up finding a dead body. Knowing that, I can definitely understand the frustration. Sometimes hours, even minutes, matter.
Don't forget you were able to follow it because this is edited down. The full version is filled with incoherent nonsense from Eddie.
You’ve absolutely never spoke to a methed out person before
We gotta remember this interview was like 2.5 hours and the host of the show edited it to make it somewhat coherent. I imagine he went around in circles and made other stuff up. Guess we'd have to listen to the whole thing
I’ll be frank. I listened to the full version then came here to make my first comment. I was able to follow it bc I have Asperger’s and some how can follow his thoughts. Eddie is not methed out necessarily, he’s on the spectrum and he was completely coherent and his story never changed. He was honest to a fault and was completely oblivious to the officers’ irritation and impatience. A trait usually of one on the spectrum. Just my observations.
OK I know he was sounding inconstant and there was an active missing person at the time but the cops that were taking the statement from the brother were really inpatient and unprofessional, they were acting like it's an interrogation not a statement
Of course it was a interrogation. They suspected him of murdering his (sister?)
I think it was probably obvious to them that drugs were involved too.
I mean they were obviously being untruthful at multiple points in the conversation and their thought process and logic was stupid enough to have gotten them both killed. If I heard a person telling me they did stupid thing after stupid thing, I'd be pretty astounded and mad at them too.
@shirmeymckamey9386 I absolutely understand that but there are stages to get to the point of the interrogation but the officer just jumped the steps and started interrogating him from the start
I agree.. They aren't questioning him, they were interrogating him...
All I can think of is Milky Creek Road, Milky Creek Road. 🤪🤪🤪
And that interrogation had me in hysterics. It sounds like it’s straight out of a sitcom 😂
The law enforcement dude "taking the statement" infuriated me with his infatuation with saying " Millllkeee Creeeek road" !!! That was an interogation and a poorly conducted one at that.
Yeah, dude should've absolutely had a lawyer present, but he was so far gone he didn't realize he needed one.
lol yeah but what can you expect with small town hillbilly cops haha
That's because he was trying to make sense of a story that made no goddamn sense. There's alot of missing context in the recording of the interview too. Before it was even played he said that it's been heavily edited and pieced together in a way to make it somewhat easier to follow, and that the original interview is much more confusing. These detectives aren't dealing with a normal sober individual with a fully functioning brain here either. This is a meth smoker with a history of drug abuse, who is also almost certainly on a spectrum of mental retardation. If you have never dealt with a person like that, then I'm here to tell you that trying to get a coherent story out of them is incredibly difficult, and you often end up with something exactly like this interview.
Fr I was like stfu let him try to correlate his story dammit. He's obviously trying to recollect and think but him being interrupted makes him more confused.
@@firstnamelastnamethirdname If you're telling the truth, it's hard to get de-railed...
I understand that it was hard to follow what Eddie was saying given the bizarre situation but the guy doing the questioning was interrupting AND lecturing him so much that I would have gotten confused, too. Personally, this sounds like a combination of drug use, poor decision making, and fear of the repercussions from police for both.
I agree, if this was an actual murder, the cops immature unprofessionalism could have cost him the case.
Agree. Being "on milky creek road" might include being on the sidepath of the road or not, but the interviewer can't seem to understand this. Either you are on the road, or you ain't, he thinks. Well, if you are on the sidepath of the road, you might still conceive of yourself as being on that road.
The one thing missing in this video, that would have really put it over the top, is a follow up interview with the policeman who conducted the interview, who insisted Eddie had killed his sister. I would have liked to hear his reaction to the fact that despite how convoluted it was, Eddie’s story to him was essentially true. As the cop stated, “Never in 20 years had he heard such made up lies and ridiculous story”, I would like to hear his reaction about Eddy being truthful and if that will change his perception of people in the future, in the case where if someone’s a bit weird, that shouldn’t imply guilt.
Thanks again, great job!
Exactly, the officer should be demoted or at least reprimanded , retrained if not fired, he needs a week off without pay. Whatever it takes to changes his attitude
The interview was really funny..i havent laughed that hard in a long time..dude sounded like he was makeing it up as he went along..thanks..
Never take a police “interview” without a lawyer. They lied to that man and screamed in his face that he was lying to them. They found her. Her story was similar. They LIED.
It's not illegal to lie during a questioning. It IS illegal to use any kind of physical coercion.
Lying and screaming is not illegal, but what about abandoning family in the woods?
I'd rather take ny chances with the cops
@@gravypatron Abandoning a person in the woods isn't a crime either.
@@ksb2112 and the fact that the police will lie is why you never talk to the police without a lawyer.
“All three siblings must have different fathers as none of them share a last name” Or, both the sisters got married and took different last names? 😅
There's no info on if they were married or not. And no mention of any other people in the house they were all staying in.
I thought the same thing. *laughs* They were adults, they could be married or divorced and just not changed their names back if they were "single" at the time.
I was thinking the same. 😂
Father not in their life.
Given the sort of people they seem to be, I think the presenter's guess is the much more likely option. Plus they're all staying together....like, I know you want to be sympathetic and polite to this bunch of meth heads who got lost in the woods, but come on...
As someone who has had visual hallucinations as a result of a serious medical emergency (no it wasn't drugs or the psych ward or anything like that) that landed me in the hospital for 2 1/2 months, they can seem so real and very scary. Real enough to the point you are driving medical staff crazy insisting there is a man or a spider or you are at a gas station or whatever. My husband had to tell me where I was and what was going on. I can't imagine being out in the woods hallucinating and having no one to tell you that it isn't real.
Yup, dumb ass cops aren't the right people to make medical judgements about what can or can't happen in the mind of other people!!!
I have gone to the woods to hallucinate.
Many times, I have walked through the woods while/after consuming large quantities of psilocybin mushrooms.
@@planexshifterfun times for me too
Me too....smoke was coming off water in evening bro I just sat down and watched and tripped my balls off call me Dylan Mulvaney it was amazing@@planexshifter
What was the medical emergency
“RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH A NINE MILLIMETER?!?!” 😂😂 this shit has me dyyying it’s like a reno 911 skit
They do make a 9mm revolver - you do realize that right?
@@WoodsPrecisionArmsyet everyone knows what is meant by that. Everyone isn’t some dumbass who needs to be ‘well akshully’d.
Fuk ya I was busting up just listening to this guy man shit was hilarious
Another great one liner was:
“They should put you on TV!!”
@@kevinsayes you have to explain that one to me
“After about 12-15 hours, ain’t no such thing as a finicky eater no more.” Dude, people don’t eat for that long every single day. It’s not some starvation scenario. This cop must be as big as a steer.
Lol. So true.
3 weeks without food, 3 days without water, 3 minutes without oxygen.. 💀
Their logic was really bizarre at times. "I didn't hallucinate during my training, so it couldn't have happened to you." There are so many variables there even ignoring that the cop suspects him, probably correctly, of using drugs.
@TheLithp I get dizzy after working without food for about 4 hours. 😂 Went about 8 hours without food during a concert and for extremely dizzy and threw up. I would probably, at least, think I was seeing things if I was walking for hours and didn't eat.
I wanted to strangle the cop dude hearing this, especially the food thing. 😂
Not to mention that the "grapes" they ate could have been a hallucinogen or could have made them sick, which can cause hallucinations especially with the lack of food.
@@littlearies3862 do you have diabetes or something?
I love that you revisit these old cases. Most channels cover a case like this one time, talk about how spooky it is, and never go back to talk about it ever again. You on the other hand, point out that there's really nothing mysterious going on and that it's just a couple of tweakers out in the woods. There's no evidence at all that they are even related. Awesome, awesome video
Occam's Tweaker should be up there with paradoxical undressing.
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@@etaoinshrdlu927 LOL
I know, this is a case Missing 411 would make all mysterious and leave out all the important details like the fucking METH, haha.
Yeah. This channel cleared up so much. Where things are genuinely mysterious, ok, they are mysterious. The world is big, not everything we can explain. But, a bunch of meth addicts with apparent mental deficiencies wandering in the woods hallucinating??? or.....mysterious shadowy 'watcher' beings who may or may not be humans, that follow people in the woods closely but don't speak or otherwise communicate? One of these explanations happens (sadly) probably tens of thousands of times (if we count methheads in cities and suburbs) each year. The other...there's no proof it's ever happened at all.
This isnt the only incident of people being lost and seeing weird people in the forest while lost . But this story is the weirdest one I've ever heard about. The other case was a very clean living outdoors women that was lost for almost 2 weeks. She claimed she seen people almost every night.
This dudes either a straight up idiot, drug abuser, or struggling with some form of mental handicap (possibly all three). I don’t trust anything he says.
Maybe she did. She could have been seeing angels, or even demons.
Another possibility that I haven't seen here is that people often grow Marijuana in the woods on land that they don't own, and will kill anyone who stumbles across it. This might explain a lot of the missing people.
Honestly, too many people won't allow the possibility of something else out there besides us humans because of fear. I feel this to be extremely detrimental towards our collective growth. I have seen some "odd" things that cannot be easily explained
@-Soulja- methheads say shit like this all the time
@-Soulja-seeing shadow people is an extremely common occurrence when sleep deprived malnourished and high on stimulants I have myself encountered them on several occasions. It's such a common occurrence stimulant users will often ask each other if they have seen the shadow people yet to gauge how high they are.
Here from the Lore Lodge channel...just had to check you they said you do good work.
as an arkansan, a few things:
1. many “highways” out in rural areas are just residential areas, but extremely spaced out. They’re technically highways and connected to highways but have nature, some houses, and farms in between. There are also so many creeks it’s ridiculous. So the mill creek road may have been what they called their street, even if it was officially labeled something different. In rural areas gps only helps so much, and we’ve got streets literallt named after the person who owns the house etc. Those aren’t really official or paved, it’s just property with dirt roads.
2. Having been out in these rural areas before, It is extremely easy to get lost. But I will say if there was a creek involved, it’s not uncommon to see people drive by or swimming, and sometimes the people who swim in the creek don’t speak english, so they may have not known english or didn’t want to mess with a rural white guy, just in case. I know as ive seen a lot of people out by the creek who didn’t speak english before and they don’t really talk to you if they don’t know what ur saying. It’s also common etiquette to leave people well alone, but especially people who live out there, bc not all of these creeks are public lol. It can be on a national park, someone’s property, and you can’t really tell. So you just stay quiet and keep away from others.
3. Drugs are a really bad issue out in rural areas. It’s not as bad with the older folks, but from ages 30-50 ive noticed a lot of users and addicts who all live together or live in a house from their grandparent bc it’s all they have/can afford. The way he tells his story and swears they were hallucinating, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were both on something when they started. I know a loooott of addicts will just walk and talk to get that energy out. If you don’t have a car or can’t drive bc you’re high, you just walk cuz there ain’t nothing else to do around there. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they were really hallucinating bc they were on something. I mean at 50 years old, a hike like that is pretty difficult. So if they were on something like a stimulant that may be why they walked for so long and didn’t want to stop.
this is just my two cents, as someone who’s been out to these areas and interacted with people like this.
I will also say, it sounds like he maybe has some untreated adhd or similar issues bc i have adhd and I also tell stories kind of discombobulated and strange like that when I get nervous. He does clarify but he doesn’t know how to express himself properly, so he comes off as unreliable when he may just be nervous and not know how to say what he means.
@@internetspookiesArkansas is Rough outside of Little Rock and Fayetteville, I was in fort smith/van buren and the people just stared me down some weren’t friendly im not white btw there were some decent white folks it’s a mix sadly
I fully believe these people were on meth, which can make a person hallucinate.
As someone who has done a lot of walking and talking while geetered, I feel you
Ok but he admitted there was no water to be swimming in, no truck and no ppl and that he was seeing things. What he didn’t admit is that they were on METH. And that explains this entire “mysterious” case.
After listening to Eddy’s rambling this is what I think happened:
Eddy and Linda set off walking down that road for so long because they were out of meth and decided to walk to “this guy’s” house that Linda knows in Woolem to get some more meth. Why else would 2 people their age walk many miles down that road. At some point 1 of them decides there is a short cut through woods so they walk right in and get lost. The reason he stops himself from answering a couple of their questions and why his story is all over the place is because he doesn’t want to tell them they were on a meth run and got lost. At some point in the woods they get into an argument, possibly over which direction to go. Linda decided she knew which way to go, tells him she going that way, he says he thinks it’s the wrong way and he wants to just go home, she tells him fine she will go her way to the meth house and he can go home adding that “I bet I’ll beat you home” they then split up and the rest is history. 🤔🤷🏼♀️
This explanation explains all the many strange things these individuals did and said.
Cheers
Well done. I agree.
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I really wish the cops had done a drug test, but I guess they didnt have a reason to until *after* linda was found, and by then theres maybe no legal reason to get a drug test done.
You would think the cops would have done some kind of blood or urine test to at least see if there was any traces of shrooms or some kind of woodland fungus or berry poison.
I suspect that the cops were so immediately convinced of Eddies guilt that they never even considered that the hallucinations were real, and thus never considered that meth was the answer. I think that interrogator was kind of an idiot lol. A very self assured man who is convinced his instincts are always right and that he knows how people behave and believes hes very good at reading people
You comprehend Meth Speak well... could you explain to the questioning officer... 🤦♀️
Just watched a show today.. guy in s.c. went to cash a 10k lottery ticket.. got lost. His cell pings got him looking like a rabbit getting chased for 4 hours. He ended up dying of exposure after crossing a six lane highway at rush hour, never even got to cash that 10k. Sad af
You saved me having to write it. This is exactly what happened. Try driving a taxi for a while in a town where there are people like this - it will be crystal clear to you.
I'm so glad you decided to do a deep dive into this case. As someone whose very interested in the Missing 411 Case series by David Paulides, this is a case that has always interested me. Unfortunately, other than the interview Linda gives after she is found, no other information is ever given about what happened to her or her brother. Your channel has been a reliable source for providing much needed context to these cases that have clearly been sensationalized. Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
This case should not be included, or even considered, when discussing or researching Missing 411.
This case is not really all that strange. This is about two very low intelligence individuals, also meth users, who went out into the woods of the Ozarks smoking meth.
I live here in the Missouri Ozarks. And the wilderness out here is very deep, dark, and dense. Even a very experienced woodsman can easily get lost out here.
Now you take 2 people, who are low IQ, possibly even on a spectrum of mental retardation, who go off into the woods on a meth bender to "explore". It's not very much of a surprise that you end up with something like this happening.
And if you have never tried to get a story that makes sense out of a meth addicted low IQ individual, then I'm here to tell you, this is usually what you end up with. A crazy story that makes no sense.
There's just too many other factors here with this case that should keep it from being included with the other cases.
Hell of a username :)
Thuis is the exact problem I have with missing 411. I'm open minded to all sorts of possibilities but paulides purposefully leaves out important info that makes it very clear there's a reasonable explanation for what happened. It's even more troubling that he is retired law enforcement. Either his critical thinking skills are really that bad or he purposefully tries to mislead people. Either one is scary when you know this guy has had who knows how many locked up.
@@cabooseabs6864 Paulides is trying to make money, plain and simple
@@mattjack3983 Honestly, this is what you find with a lot of the Missing 411 cases: a purposeful lack of scrutiny to make things seem more mysterious than they are to sell the idea there is some boogeyman out there. I like spooky stories as much as anyone else but we should really be honest about this. Most often the boogeyman is mental illness and misadventure.
Love your channel! I like that you actually try to go to the scenes where the people disappeared. Keep up the good work and your attention to detail.
The pained screeching of the creaky chair is my internal screaming at how painful this interview is xDD
The officer conducting the interview seems very aggressive considering he has no information. The fact that a retired officer, frankly, accused this man of murder without any facts or information other than his encounter is alarming to me. It's clear these people directly involved are off mentally a slight bit. I'm halfway through making this comment and it would seem to me they went on a walk while high on acid or shrooms or something and became lost and disoriented. The officer is not helping in any way. He even is trying to talk him into a confession. Very frightening. I hope these cops were fired to be honest.
Don't count on it.
I highly doubt it, they were probably commended for doing such a great job. It’s sad but true.
They had the report of the previous arrest for murder on their desk before Eddie sat down. It poisoned the well and then he dug it deeper.
@@gypsybill Wow, good insight. Yes, especially with him modifying the charges which made him look (oh) "Manslaughter", but when it started out as being SECOND DEGREE MURDER.
So, yeah, that interview sure wasn't going in the right direction for our Buddy Eddie.
Hey, check it out. I hate cops. To a degree that would make all of you, liberal and conservative, uncomfortable. Think Mr Blonde from Reservoir Dogs. But Eddie is absolutely causing the cops to be harsh. The whole scenario is fairly odd and probably frankly overwhelming for a hick cop. The whole thing seems like it has layers. The top layers are just as they appear (hayseed meth head, good ol' boy sheriff) but something is up as you go deeper...
Well this case has turned from unbelievably mysterious to unbelievably funny....imagine listening to his story and then listening to the story of his sister few days later😅....
Although these investigators aren't much different from the guy who was lost
Southern accents
It was whole lot more mysterious before I heard this interview.
"Russian roulette with a nine millimeter!?!?!" I lost it at that point 😂
😂👌🏻
Gotta wait to watch but commenting so this criminally underrated channel gets the attention it deserves
I agree! My only “complaint” is that there aren’t MORE videos! Seriously though, I know these types of videos take a lot of work to put together so I just wait patiently for new uploads. Great channel! 😊
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@@robinmoore7202 I too, wish he made more vids! Love this channel.
"Why didn't she eat the grapes?
... wait what grapes!?"
That killed me 😂
hahah
Those cops were horrible.
Cop: You're not under arrest, we just want to take your statement.
Eddie: Well, ok, it's like this
Cop: YOU DID IT!!! YOU KILLED HER!!! YOU KNOW YOU KILLED HER!!! JUST CONFESS NOW AND TELL US WHERE YOU BURIED THE BODY!!!
This is how most confessions are extracted. Cops will never tell you that you're suspected of a crime until after you've signed documents saying you admit to a crime.
this is what you did, right?
It doesn’t have to be this way - but unfortunately most American Law Enforcement Offices prefer using the Reid method of interrogation!
It has a high rate of false confessions - but apparently they don’t really care!
There are other, far more reliable methods of interrogation, that doesn’t generate high rates of false confessions - but they lack the "aggression" that Reid offers, so maybe that’s why they’re not as popular in the US, as they are in Europe….
My question was “then why read him his Miranda rights” if not under arrest? That cop just aggravated the s**t out of me and I had to quit listening. He needs to go to school and learn his manners and how to communicate with others. He seemed to have some kind of distorted self perception as being “THE TOP DOG” or something. I don’t know but he verbally abused that man if you ask me
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Yeah, that's because you're probably a normal person who doesn't feel LEO should be allowed to neither verbally abuse, or otherwise use unsound methods of interrogation - no matter how much they personally believe someone is guilty!
However, the fact is, that most American LEO learn that they are "top-dogs", who can "read body language", use their "top-dogs senses" and "gut feelings", and similar invalid unscientific BS, to determine if someone is guilty.
They also learn a certain method of interrogation called the Reid model.
It's known for having a very high rate of false confessions compared to models based on establishing rapport, and using respectfulness while building trust and relation.
But the models of interrogation that has been proven to create the most reliable results, all require that the LEO put that "top-dog" mentality away.
Of course, that means they lack the aggressiveness that makes LEO have this gut feeling of being a bad ass tough on criminals cop who get shit done!!
Just one more reason why USA is in dire need for huge reforms to law enforcement, the "justice" system, and the penal system.
But in a nation who's been feeding on a long and nearly constant stream of cop-aganda and who's been told that an "eye for an eye" is the only way to justice, it isn't easy to make the systemic reforms the country needs so badly....
greatest audio example of concussed thinking i've come across great job for sharing this with us
Sheesh, I don't know how anyone can interview a suspect who doesn't know if it's morning, noon or night unless he looks at a clock. It would be funny if it wasn't so obvious that Eddie was just so far out to sea. Probably went out to find a weed crop or a lab, got lost and thought they had to come up with a story. I mean...
People complain about the cops, but indulging people like Eddie only encourages more of such behaviour. There's enough of a problem with meth already. They don't think of how frustrating it must be for the officer to try get a coherent story that might be usable in court from someone whose brain is totally fried on drugs.
I used to live in the Ozarks of Arkansas, everyone knows not to go wandering in the woods because there are tons of weed crops and meth labs. There are snare traps set up by these growers and "chemists" for people who like to venture in their territory. I think you're right about the brother and sister looking for that stuff
Could you do a video on Tom Messick? The elderly hunter who disappeared within a few hundred feet from the other members of his hunting party (friends and family members) and was never seen again. That's a mystery that I can never seem to get out of my head. They reported they heard a strange sound, and then Tom never came back. What happened? It's like he disappeared into thin air.
The sound of a trap snapping closed! Same I think of it often. He was sitting on a rock and his family said they’d be back soon. So interesting!
He was most likely taken from above. But yeah that's a crazy story also. That was in the missing 411 movie.
Despite passing it off as hallucinating, his timeline and details of events seemed fairly consistent, even if the actions within his trip to the woods and external details (sister's spelling and age) didn't make sense.
I don’t agree. He was clearly making it up as he went. He couldn’t decide if the creek had water and people swimming or if it was dry, if it was day 2 night or day, he couldn’t get anything right as far as a timeline.
@@TezzyRs
are you autistic or something?
I agree, he's consistent. Those detectives were ugly, horrible, looking to accuse rather than locate the sister. Jerks.
52:33 "...Long time ago." I knew he was going to say it again!!! I called it, and the pause was just long enough to make it hilarious. I laughed LOUDLY for several seconds.
another protip : if you ever get lost, picture being featured on this channel, it should give you the motivation to save yourself!
But PLEASE don't tell the officer you were on Milky Creek Road!! 😂
Lol it’s funny that you mention that. Last hunting season my brother in law got lost in fog while trying to fetch water. Lost radio contact and everything. He somehow managed to make a loop back to deer camp. Everything went smoothly after that.
But I remember hearing this narrators voice describing our potentially bad situation while we drove home lol.
Someone needs to profit from another individuals horrible experience. Might as well be the narrator!
@@bluejeanhiker6131 that's funny. He would have been stoked to be the only one to make some money from your story. Maybe next time.
The cops had clearly made up their minds that he was guilty way before they went into that interrogation, a brilliant example of why you should always shut up and ask for a lawer before talking to them
I said the same thig above. These cops were douchebags and I would have said nothing after about a minute in.
@zoomer9686 would not matter and does not matter. Innocent until proven guilty
Ever retrieved the body of someone who could have been saved if someone called hours sooner? Minutes sooner? Ever had to explain to someone "I'm sorry, but when we made it to your uncle/father/son, it was too late." It's not fun. The frustration the Sheriff had here was valid.
@zoomer9686clearly you've never dealt with the police, your naive ass might wake up someday.
@@EksaStelmereA lot of people who claim to work for law enforcement disagree.
If you're in a law position, you shouldn't get needlessly frustrated with an innocent person. If you can't manage your emotions, you shouldn't be serving.
Shows me how hostile detectives who are already convinced of someone’s guilt, can use an interrogation to coerce a suspect who is disabled or lower IQ. Think about how many innocent individuals are in prison for life because they didn’t have the capacity to counter a seasoned detectives questions. Eddie would definitely be another one if his sister was never found. Sure Eddie might have mental health issues, and/or on going addiction exacerbating everything. Also getting lost, especially for that long, is taxing on your facilities. Doesn’t mean someone’s a killer. The detectives should have taken that into account before rushing to such a potentially severe judgment.
Yes, blame the police that have to deal with these burn outs. Don't blame the drug users themselves, whether low iq or not lol
Wtf
You bring up a good point that, whether Eddie was a drug addict or has mental disabilities or both or neither, he did not receive medical care after being lost in the woods for 3 days without food or water. So its actually conceivable that he truly was that dog tired, i.e., clinically exhausted and recovering from almost dying without ANY medical attention that he likely very much needed. (unless i missed a part where he went to a hospital after)
Agreed. They really bungled up with Eddie.
I am new to your channel. I am really enjoying your stories. The illustrations are really good and they helped drive the story for me. Thank you.
1). The way the police treated Eddie validates why Eddie didn’t want to call police. He has a prior record and realizes that if his sister isn’t found they’d pin it on him.
2). Families are all different. Sounds like Eddie, Linda, Barbara did drugs and lived a rough life. Some siblings from multiple parents have dysfunctional relationships that get pretty strange. Drugs, Poison Berries, even incest are possibilities here. They are in the middle of nowhere.
So if you had a prior, and your loved one was missing, you'd not call for help?
Wtf is wrong with you?? Bless those who have to be around you!
@@bigwezzGod there always has to be a virtue signaling freak.
He didn’t say he would do the same thing in the situation he was trying to compassionate this man.
@@bigwezz”He realizes … “ not “I would if I were him” ffs.
@@mordie31 there's always one complete melt who agrees with an idiot 😅
He was trying to rationalise a piece of shit's actions/lack of. 🤏🧠
Women often change their names when they get married. My two sisters and I have three different last names and including my brother who has the family last name (now 4 last names). All have same parents.
The police being sure he killed her helped make this seem more incoherent than it was. Had he been able to just lay it out without interruptions basically they got lost then hallucinated then got separated. He didnt call because after he got back and got mad at his other sister she said she would call then he went to sleep.
I know it’s not a laughing matter but that line “there ain’t a soul in America, not even little r*tarded children…” absolutely killed me
Ableist. And there was at least one. Her name was Gracie and she was so neglected that she never even acquired language. The curve gets wider behind closed doors.
What even was the context???
Literally died laughing
Laughed harder than I should have when that dropped.
43:38 for anyone curious
That Investigator was the absolute worst interviewer I've ever heard and among the least professional. I was a prosecutor for 10 years and have been in criminal defense for the last 7. This guy has no business being a police officer, much less an investigator. He has no clue how to deal with people. He came into the interview with a theory of the case that this suspect had murdered his sister, and he wouldn't accept any other possibility. Everything he said to the suspect was suggestive of his pre-conceived notions and just unhinged.
Successful, experienced law enforcement officers are prepared to go wherever the evidence leads them. The investigator must've just thought if he kept screaming, interrupting, and generally berating the suspect on irrelevant details of the case then he'd just get a confession. It's sad that he got so far into his career without being corrected by superiors or prosecutors (or defense lawyers and trial judges) he worked with. There's no way this was an isolated incident either. He's been doing this (or likely much, much worse) his entire career.
He knew the man he was interviewing had a poor educational background, as well as mental health disabilities and potentially substance abuse issues; and the investigator aimed to exploit all those things to get a confession exactly conforming to his pre-conceived notions, irrespective of any actual evidence. He wouldn't even let the man get a word in because he wasn't interested in actually getting a statement. Therefore, it would've been a crappy interview even if he had browbeat this obviously disabled or impaired man into confessing.
There's a huge problem with people who have mental, emotional, or intellectual disabilities falsely confessing to crimes they didn't commit, especially when interrogations are myopically suggestive or overly belligerent to the point of bullying (such as here). Certainly police can and should occasionally be confrontational during an interview, but it was beyond useless here. And worse still, as is so often the case when police have tunnel vision toward one particular suspect, theory, or outcome, they wasted crucially valuable time searching for the sister. Thankfully, she.was found okay. But they didn't even classify the search effort as a "Search and Rescue," they listed it as a "Search and Recovery" because they believed that she was dead. Granted, the brother's story (at least what we could hear of it over the shouting of Arkansas' most inept policeman, was certainly suspicious, but there was absolutely no corroborating physical evidence or witnesses indicating foul play at that point. This could've turned out much, much worse and resulted in a miscarriage of justice.
The"WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL THE POLICE"and the door slam did it for me.
Door slam tickled me too.
I love that you go back and find more information on these. I’m halfway through and I’m starting to think it was not at all what it seems at the beginning. The brothers interview was very eye opening
Seems like the "grapes" he was talking about might have been muscadines - kind of just like a wild, tart grape. They're pretty common around here. And where he didn't understand why there would be actual grapes in Arkansas - on the western side of the state in and around Altus, they have several vineyards and wineries - seems like some of them are owned and operated by Mennonites. But yeah, at least from my perspective - having fallen into the world of meth addiction for a couple of years and becoming very familiar and well versed with the mannerisms, subtleties and intricacies of meth heads and how they act, think, rationalize and operate - this dude really seems like a clear and textbook meth head. There are several things that make me think that - his convoluted story, how he speaks and constructs sentences and ideas, etc. - but the thing that kind of screams it to me is how he just went to sleep when he got home. I remember that being a common theme with myself and everyone else around - we'd get geetered out, stay up for at least a week on the short end and upwards of two weeks on the high end (21 days for me my first time) and eventually, you just start falling asleep like instantly, right in the middle of whatever you're doing - right in the middle of a conversation, driving, eating, etc. I guess there could be other explanations but the fact that his sister is lost in the woods and he supposedly cares about her but goes to sleep instead of calling the cops seems to hint at coming down and crashing off meth. And that could also explain pretty much everything else too. Maybe something kind of like meth induced folie a deux or just general meth psychosis. Still kind of a weird, unsettling story though.
Really great channel glad Shrouded Hand recommended it.
Yes bc the detectives already had their narrative of what happened and they would have put this guy in prison for life if they didn’t end up finding Linda alive ! It just goes to show that there are detectives out there putting innocent people in prison bc they don’t give a dang about truth they want a name for themselves and to close a case but this case is disgusting how the detectives are talking to him and they know he isn’t bright enough to ask for an attorney and end the thugs questioning him!! So sad!!
I see you've never had to explain to someone that their dad/aunt/cousin is dead because they didn't get on the phone hours, or even minutes sooner. Retrieving bodies knowing there was a reasonable chance to save someone is cause for frustration.
Most people in prison aren't guilty of the crimes they were convicted of...
@@mikehunt8375 Most? Do you have any statistics to back this up?
"my sources is that I made it the fuck up"... Senator Armstrong @@ericnowak9497
The "twenty year marine" had me laughing so hard, I had an asthma attack. Thank ya, boys.
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Same
Extremely frustrating interview. "No hold on a minute..when did you separate?"
"That's what I said, we went together." Basically chasing this story around meeting different NPCs for nearly 3 hours
I live in Central Arkansas. I can tell you that in North Arkansas, there are people in the Ozark foothills that are isolative and would indeed likely ignore people they perceive as outsiders. That could possibly explain the encounters described here. Also, it's very believable that law enforcement here WOULD charge someone with manslaughter for simply owning the weapon used in a suicide. This allows them to appear authorative and efficient in the eyes of the public, or so they reason.
Drugs and some form of learning difficulty will explain all of this, no need to consider anything paranormal. I would suggest the reason Eddie sounds confused is because Eddie is confused. He is also extremely lucky that his sister was found alive.
Thank you for this great video. I’ve heard the first part of the story many times, on different Paranormal channels. It’s been treated as an actual paranormal encounter. This is the first time I’ve heard about this bizarre family, drug use, Eddie’s crazy story, etc. I appreciate all your extra research.
Yes. Put's it in a different doesn't it?
the classic "sensationalism vs fact". many times the temptation to sensationalise stories bury the actual truth. I appreciate this channel going to the lengths of digging into the real facts and giving us a more factual presentation.
Same!! Not once did anyone mention the family history and drug use..
COP: "Were they on foot?"
Eddie: "YEAH! THEY WERE SWIMMING!"
Smh, this sums up the entire interview
People come up with fantastic stories that are hard to believe. I think most times they're delirious. This was a weird one for sure. Thank you for your presentations. They're level headed and factual. Much better than other channels in my opinion. Often times the biggest boogeyman man is in our heads. The real creatures and true stories are frightening enough without speculation and embellishments. Thank you for all your thorough work!
Whether that was a legitimately paranormal expreience or they were just on drugs, and notwithstanding the incredible lack of professionalism and productive interviewing by the cops, that was one hummdinger of a weird tale hes telling. Thank you.
I'm not surprised he didn't go to police. Just look how miserably they treated him.
Zactly!!
His sister was still missing at that time with no water or food. He wasn’t providing any honest, useful information. By luck she survived.
omg right?? Of course he didn’t call to report her disappearance.
@@GG-NYSthe cops are being hostile because they assume he killed her and he didn't, and he is confused by them
@@balzaak4803 He doesn’t seem to care that she is in the middle of the woods without food or water which can result in death in as little as 3 days. He couldn’t even be bothered to call for help when he got home and realized she was still lost. He’s a lot more than confused.
Eddie might have been able to tell a coherent story if the cops hadn’t interrupted every sentence. The cops were clearly hostile and it’s no wonder Eddie was confused. Granted, it’s a very strange case no matter what.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
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I get what the officer was trying to do but he seems like he already believes that this was a murder case and is trying forcibly to get a confession. He also seems like he has a personal vendetta against this Eddie guy.
Eddie seems to have a mental disorder and people tend to look down on them and treat them very badly. Seems like the cop already had it made up in his head Eddie did something to his sister.
Jesus, do you guys just randomly comment and not read other people's comments? There's always answers there. This is NOT the first interview of Eddie - he's already told his story at least once before we saw this edited version, so when they insist he changed the story, he probably did, but we didn't see it. Get it? Not giving the cops a free pass, but this guy would get annoying after hours and hours of dealing with him
This is completely nutters! One wonders whether these people were even related, and if so, then how? Or perhaps I don't want to know. It's certainly easy to understand the frustration of the police. Eddie was clearly being cagey when questioned, and one gets the sense that there's a lot he's choosing not to say. In any case, I think you've covered this strange story incredibly well. Cheers!
Listening to the lawman treat eddie so poorly and trying to gaslight him was really tough to listen to. The man clearly isn’t well and recently went through quite the ordeal.
Eddie was high af on meth. I'm sure that cop was about to lose his shit
@@Sandi-zh2wxexactly
@@Sandi-zh2wxNo, he wasn't. You're d_mb as dirt. You're actually on these idee0t cops side when even other cops are laughing at them 🙄
"Are you hallucinating?"
"Not yet"
Listening to this interview got me to thinking of a family that would frequent the ER where I worked as a nurse. There were 3 siblings, one sister and two brothers. When talking with any one of them, you would leave them more confused than ever, just like the guy in this interview. The three siblings had different fathers but the same mother. You could say that their cornbread wasn't quite done in the middle, if you get my meaning. The brothers would come in with serious injuries because they would be fighting over who was to sleep with their mother and I don't mean actual sleeping. I'm sure that there was some inbreeding in the family of the guy that was being interviewed. There are some real doozies out there.
I'm currently sitting with 3 stitches, had an x-ray, a tetanus shot and have extensive bruising, yet I'm 101% happier I was on the patient side of A&E than your side of it! Holy moly, there are some scary Mary's out there😂
My thoughts as well. Eddie sounded like he was a quart low. Maybe two.
Bingo
@@dtaylor10chuckufarle
Well, Eddie certainly should consider changing his name to Earl: because he seems to be a quart of Earl low!
Reckon?
@@ahashdahnagila6884lol Being from the deep south, I have seen a few "Earls" myself, and I would agree that he fits that description. 😅
And it turned out his story was 100% true (from eddies hallucinating perspective anyways) they both ate toxic berries thinking they were edible and started hallucinating and got lost and separated. They found her 5 days later alive and she fully corroborated what her brother told police including the shared hallucinations
I’m from Arkansas. Everyone here thinks they were on meth and then she ate the wrong stuff in the woods. 🤷🏻♀️
AMEN!
Your version of events is BY FAR the most plausible. Powderheads wandering around in the woods- that obese doing 5 miles? No way! No food? No water? No logic?
Won't ask for help? BEG FOR HELP? Seeing the same shadow people?
Didn't even report her missing?
There is no damn way they weren't completely tweakin' out of their minds.
They are druggy idiots!
No other explanation!
Do you know them? Living in the same state is a stretch to be brave enough to call a stranger a meth user on the internet. Tf?
They are probably correct
given the fact that missing hunters/hikers and meth often go together I'm inclined to wonder about every missing person in the wilderness case.
@ashelton did you listen to the entire interview?
The dude is on something. If you don't realize he is acting abnormally, I feel sorry for you.
They should play this interview for police detectives as an example of why you should not make the same assumptions when interviewing a mentally slow person as you would if interviewing a person of average or above avg intellect.
I am doubting that Eddie is a "mentally slow person." Eddie is as consistent in his ramblings as the detectives are in their conviction that Eddie killed his sister and left her body in the woods.
@@user-mv9tt4st9k Whatever consistency does exist is a there because Eddy is trying to tell the truth. However, I don't think he would score even an average level of intellect on any diagnostic. This is not meant as an insult, it certainly is not his fault that he wasn't born a genius.
There are so many idiots like this, I was surprised to hear the cop say in all his years he never heard a story like this. I have witnessed multiple idiots doing these kinds of shenanigans. They probably knew full well that these berries would give them a type of high in small doses. If poisoned by berries, he would have felt nauseous and anxious and had diarrhea, which would have increased dehydration and would have sped up the time frame of being disorientated in the woods, and later a rebound effect of immobility and relaxation while still in a state of agitation, explaining the delay of being coherent enough to have empathy for his sister. She probably eat the berries as well, considering her story but had less effect due to her being a female with more body fat. Cops need more education. People make decisions on the fly, all the time. They don’t always use rational logic and think things through especially when bored.
A mentally slow person who is also a meth addict. You conveniently left that part out, but it's an incredibly important part as to why this situation happened, and why this interview is the way it is.
Eddie sounds pretty bad but the real terrifying thing is that the law enforcement officials sound even worse. Eddie actually corrects the guy at times!
They do it on purpose, to see if you change your story.
It’s the Reid method of interrogation - mostly used in the US!
It’s pure shit!
But brilliant if you want false confessions, or rather, don’t care about if the confessions are false, as long as you get one!
@@ryman1933meh….i simply don’t think this cop was competent or intelligent enough to do anything other than act aggressively. Kind of common back then…and the cop sounds just as moronic as Ed.
@@freeman7079 not really, the guy is telling a unbelievable story and acted incredibly suspiciously, making himself the prime suspect of a possible murder. The cop was putting constant pressure on him to try and crack him. The guy even had a previous conviction involving murder. Not much else for the cop to suspect really.
@@freeman7079 besides they had to ask the same question 50 times just to get an answer out of the guy, I'd be frustrated too.
" Russian roulette with a 9mm!?!!? " 😂😂😂 I'm sorry but that was hilarious. They're so mean to Eddie, he seems a little slow
Due to the fact the people that were involved in this story are safe and sound I have to say listening to Eddie was absolutely hysterical!😂😂😅 I needed a good laugh. Thanks so much for never letting me down!❤
Can’t wait to work “dog ass tired” into a conversation. Great story. You should do a follow -up: “where are they now?”
I'm adding "dog ass tired" to my lexicon next to "buttf**k depressing"
every dog has its day
There are some great colloquialisms in that same vein. Another of my favorites: someone very angry may have "a ring-tailed fit." I have no idea where that came from, but I use that one as often as possible. (I actually read that in either Time or Newsweek magazine in describing Monica Lewinsky's reaction to being blocked outside the White House while Bill Clinton was "in a meeting" with Eleanor Mondale. It sounds like a country expression, but who knows where the writer of that article heard it.)
@@josi4251 Another Southern expression you may enjoy, when speaking of someone unusually exuberant or just extra jolly about something: "Happier than a sissy with a bag of dicks." There is a lady podcaster that uses this term a lot and I love when she says it with her accent. LOL.
I read this comment right when "... dog ass tired..." came up in the conversation. Of course that was before the interviewing officer finally lost it with Eddie's tweaker ramblings and complete inability to explain his total lack of responsibility... Which was before the second officer used an outdated reference to children that would probably get my comment flagged. 😂😂😂😂
Dang listening to Eddie talk gave me a pain in my brain...jeezy peezy how can someone be so confusing!! Great video!! This is the first time I have heard this story told in such detail. Usually the storyteller sticks to the eerie part of it but don't tell the whole story. Weird is not a good enough word for this one!
This is low intelligence all the way around !!!! So funny. This sheriff is hysterical !!!
WHY IN THE WORLD
Eddie is no genius. But he's got a lot of experience evading responsibility, too.
I loved how when they asked about his job he said he was tryin to get his SSI checks. REAL WINNER THIS ONE!
Its called Meth dude