2022 Honda CRF 450 RL First Ride And Impressions (Is It Worth 10Gs ? )
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Just picked me up a new Honda 450 RL This is my first ride on little baby red
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I rode my mt09 for 4 years before buying my 450l. Now Year 3 with my 19 & I love it through & through. I pre ordered it not knowing how massive it would be in person as a small 5’7 man, it scared me till I hit the trails. The bike does ALL THE WORK. No regrets.
Its tough on us short people lol
@@BornAGoon yes
How often do you change your oil
@@BornAGoon it sure is so lol
You still liking the bike buddy? I’m debating about getting one
Just like you, BAG, I watched MANY reviews of this bike on RUclips, but I must say that I enjoyed your the most. You covered everything in a very direct, no BS, concise way. What a great video. Thanks.
Thank you for watching I appreciate the kind words
...I second that! Very informative, thank you.
Great review. Got a 19L and I love it. Vortex, Pro Circuit T6, upgraded wheels, Seat Concepts XL, fatter wider bar. Just did 1500km in Northern Cambodia on/off/red roads/trails and it did an awesome job.
Thank you dang Cambodia
As for the oil changes, I put an aftermarket skid plate (I wanted a linkage guard anyways) with an access hole for the oil drain and use a Works Connection EZ oil drain. Its like 1.2 quarts of oil and 10 minutes and not even 1 drop of oil spilled.
yep have the same
Do you change the oil every 600 miles?
@@BornAGoon Yeah pretty much spot on every 600 miles. I'm not putting tons of highway miles on it commuting or anything, and its super quick, cheap, and easy to do it the way I do.
just use liters as measurement system, quarts ? like why?
My CRF450RL story so far:
I come from a dirt bike background so that is my bias with a dual-purpose bike.
Bought my 2021 CRF450RL used with 614 miles on it, and I believe the original owner rode it street-only because it was blemish-free and shiny like new.
I'd already known of all the popular mods for the bike since I'd been following the bike since it's 2019 debut, so my initial mods once getting it home were:
*Folding mirror.
*Bona-fide knobby tires.
*One-tooth-larger rear sprocket with a new DID 520 ERVT chain.
*Suspension springs suited for my weight.
*OEM Honda throttle cables from a 2021 CRF450R.
The reason for the different throttle cables is these are much shorter in length, use a more direct routing to the throttle body, and therefor can be adjusted to the bare minimum throttle grip free play without the free play going to less than zero as the stock cables and cable routing will do when turning the bars full lock.
Much more precise throttle control without excess throttle grip free play.
I rode the bike with these mods for about a month both commuting to work and riding trails and dirt roads. I loved the stability at speed over rough ground, the firm yet compliant suspension, and the strong power and torque.
I feel the gearing, even with one tooth added to the rear sprocket, is still a little tall to be ideal on trails, but it's close enough for now and I may go with an additional tooth this spring (today is Christmas Day, 2023 - Merry Christmas!).
I certainly did notice the ON/OFF snatchy throttle response and lean stalling/flameouts that most reviews complain about, yet it did not seem like a big enough deal to want to order a Vortex ECU.
Not at first, anyway.
However, hearing and reading all the glowing Vortex ECU reviews and the thought of having a better-behaved bike and getting rid of the baking heat radiated from the cat in the stock muffler persuaded me to order a Vortex ECU and FMF Megabomb header and Q4 muffler.
I also simply wanted to see for myself if all the great reviews on these mods were justified.
So glad I did because the bike now runs as you would hope it to off the showroom floor:
Normal throttle response, no snatchy ON/OFF, and no more stalls and flameouts that seem to come out of nowhere. Just a great-running and well-behaved CRF450RL.
All-in-all, I am very impressed with this bike and the way it performs, and I am glad I bought it.
P.S.:
I'm kicking the idea around of the Stealthy 7 ounce flywheel weight.
I don't have a desire for one while I'm actually riding the bike, but I hear glowing reviews about it on a CRF450RL.
I'm wondering if I were to install one, would it be a similar situation as with the Vortex ECU where once I try it, I'll love it and think I should have done it sooner.
Anybody have experience with this flywheel weight on theirs that has any input?
Thank you for the review! I just bought a 2022 CRF450RL. I have a full FMF 450x exhaust system with a Q4 slip on, vortex ECU remapped to FMF exhaust with a switch, zeta full protection hand guards, they stopped all the hyway buzzing! I just received a Seat Consepts XL Low seat! It's amazing! It took over twelve weeks to get so order one now!!!!! I tried breaking in the stock seat by hitting it with a five pound sledge hammer every night! LoL 🤣
Very nice! I built my own seat and posted it on this channel Are you still running the stock tires
Excellent review video. I looked at one of those at the dealership last weekend here in Dallas and you're right, it does look good, really good. But man, the price is up there! I was thinking about upgrading my DR650 with one of those 450RL's, but I don't know with that high price.
It is so hard to get a deal on a bike right now
Well organized and practical review. I'm not a good enough offroad rider to need a bike like this, but want one anyway. Looking forward to seeing how the maintenance is.
I own a R1250GSHPTE , just purchased a CFR450RX, it’s hard work, but I love it.
Big adventure bikes are for fire roads and mold off road use. A dual sport most of a dirt bike is built for off road more than eating highway miles. You have to pick the right tool for the job.
I’m looking for something like the KTM 300 xc-w 2 stroke and throw a kit to make it street legal to legally hit connectors and not have it bog down and die on slower technical single track.
Getting one in July 2023, hopefully will at least get a Vortex ignition and FMF exhaust front to back. The Only reason this is my top bike pick? Is firstly “It’s a Honda”, and second? The maintenance for oil changes is 1000klm.
This bike gets a lot of hate, but I love mine. 2021 RL fully kitted out. Vortex with handlebar map switch. FMF Powercore 4 with Megabomb header. Seat Concepts Standard seat. IMS 3 gallon tank. Protaper CR High Contours bars with 1 piece Mojo Moto bar clamp. She's a tough monster to tame on the trails, but she really shines on the open road. Subscribed for the 450 content! Ride safe Honda bro!👊🏻
Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching Did you remove the thermostat too or put and wind protection on it
@@BornAGoon No sir, I'm keeping the thermostat, as I ride year round, and no wind protection for me except my helmet.
Over 1 million miles on motorcycles now....just got rid of my gs1250 for this exact model. VERY different to ride...but has opened up my "dirt world". Seen the pavement, seen the forest service roads....now time to hit the BDRs.
Man this must feel so small compared to the GS
It is interesting that you said this bike would heavier than the 200 to 300 dual sports, the specs, for what ever reason, shows it is lighter than the crf 300L that part I dont understand, But I will take it. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, I am looking for a dual sport, for the dirt roads and trails, I already have an adventure bike, that is perfect for me, but I want a street legal dirt bike I can take to camp or ride to camp occasionally. Thanks for sharing.
Dale
Thanks for watching You would love the 450RL
2023 CRF 450 RL I love it and the perfect bike for Arizona riding,,,,
Great review! The only 2 things that have kept me from one are the maintenance schedule and the price. There is no "perfect" bike out there though and I think these are about as close as you can get to a do it all motorcycle. I'll pick one up used when the price drops a bit.
The maintenece isnt that bad on it even if you follow the book
Fit an oil cooler(more oil capacity) and follow John T Young... then it's not an issue!
I paid too much for mine and don't ride it often enough but it is a dream bike for me having lived with a KLR650 and a DRZ400SM. I'm surprised how well the dirt tires do on the road but then again I'm not pushing it
Nice review
A shame it doesn’t come with tower & bigger fuel tank & bigger oil tanks as well.
I hope they fixed the stalling problem People want all these things so you don’t want to do oil changes every few days.
Honda fix these problems ( like you did to the 300 ) they will sell out over night. Thanks again from a Australian point of view stay safe Cheers
yes it would be nice with a bigger tank I dont think most people are changing the oil every 600 miles Seems like most people I talk to stretch it to 1500 Thanks for watching
Great vid. I own the same bike. I love it. The maintenance isn’t bad. Every bike needs maintenance and care so it don’t bother me. This bike has a ton of power. Best of luck and be safe 👍.
Good video. I agree with you. I own the 2021 CRF450RL and I put all the mods on it. I think it stinks that you spend 11K on a new bike and it needs another 3k to get it up to speed. I drove the bike for 2 seasons and I have a blast on it. I think it's fun on the street but not great. I think it is fun off road but not great. I come from riding motocross on a 2003 CRF450R. I have decided to sell my RL and I just purchased a new 2022 CRF450RX which I have only ridden once but I LOVE IT. It is better suited to my type of riding. I thought I would use the RL to ride from my house to the trails but the trails are 30 minutes from my house and I worried that I would have a mechanical issue and be stuck getting the bike home. Since then I purchased an enclosed trailer so I have a way to transport my bikes. My wife got a 2020 CRF250F so we have a blast trail riding. Ride ON!
Good review. I was at a dealer and saw a new base model Africa Twin and wow, I sure liked it in person and if I sold my 450l and Vstrom I could get it but now that the bike is what I want it to be I'm pretty sure I'd miss it and I just don't see me parting with it
I like the Africa Twin too If I sell my Tiger one day that is what I would buy I saw your channel before I bought my 450RL does your 450 still run good with that power-up kit you put on it?
@@BornAGoon Ya its been running great. My brother in law and I have both gotten weighed down by some construction projects so riding has been cut back for both of us for a bit but its running great and hasn't given him a single issue since once we got it buttoned up correctly
You are just spitting facts man, amazing work done!
Appreciate that thanks for watching
Funny how this video is polar opposite of other ones. Its all personal preference at the end of the day
Very nice review!
I'm a new sub after watching your video on the new Kove Rally and I was impressed with your balanced view of the bike.
Now to watch more of your channel....
I love mine. I am going to bling it out. First on the list is throttle tamer, pipe and vortec. BOOYAH. many miles in the Mountains for sure.
Let me know what mods you put on Thanks for watching
I am exactly the 1000th Subscriber... YAY !
Congrats to that. Now may that sweet youtube money come
Congrats lol Thanks for pushing me over the edge I appreciate the support
Nice video, I went from the Honda XR650L to the 2020 KTM ENDURO 690R & for my uses it's a exceptional motorcycle, maybe less dirt bike worthy than the 450 but I'm not moto dirt bike riding, wish Honda would've updated the 650L but I'm totally happy with my KTM
How is that 690 on the road? I sometimes wish I would have got that one instead
@@BornAGoon it's excellent, top speed is 112mph which makes cruising at 80 mph effortless, I did put on rally footpegs, seat concepts low seat & handlebar & rear fender bag & ram mount phone holder & just love this motorcycle, comes with 2 rider modes, abs, traction control, quick shifter & hydraulic clutch, abs & traction control can be switched off but not front abs, definitely worth the money, 74hp & no big maintenance at all, I researched the market and nothing but Husqvarna comes close, the power is amazing, I raced a newer GT Mustang & had him beat up to 100mph, he gave me thumbs up lol
@@BornAGoon wings exhaust also, if you can test drive one do it, the Honda XR650L weighs the same amount the WP explore suspension is awesome, doesn't have as much travel as the Honda but doesn't need it, the diameter is wider & fully adjustable, definitely get what you pay for
Honda doesn't believe in upgrading their dual sport bikes. The XR650L is a dinosaur on
I too have a Tiger XCx and agree its a handful on tight trails. I also have a WR250R and love it but wish for more power / torque. Considering this or the KTM 690 to add to the garage.
I still have my Tiger so I may or may not keep it. I went with this over the 690/701 because there was no dealer mark up and the dealer had plenty of them Cant find any 701s out here
I've been off the dirt a few years, went to fix my '03 CR250R and its basically in need of a new motor. I've got a couple Harleys, one I tour the country on regularly (2017 SGS) and one (a 2012 Wide Glide) that I don't ride too much since I bought the SGS. I'm thinking of trading or selling the Wide Glide and then picking one of these up. I've also considered the 300L and maybe an XR650, but I liked the pep of my CR250 and think I would eventually want the power of the 450 over those two smaller bikes. I'll mostly be riding dirt and trails.
You will like the 450 if you can do the upgrades If you will ride it on the street get the 450RL if you will tow the bike or live in an area where nobody cares get the 450RX
@@BornAGoon Got the 450RL two days ago. Only been able to ride on the street the day I got it, and that was break in miles. After about 130 street miles, that seat has told me it has to go. Already had a Seat Concepts Comfort Low ordered, but it is backordered, so I got a little wait for it. Will hit some trails on it tomorrow. I should decide then if I'm going to order the Vortex, but even still looks like a 12 week backorder on them. If I get the Vortex, I'll get either a Yoshimura or FMF exhaust. Kind of leaning FMF, since I hear it is quieter. Then again the Harley I traded for it, had aftermarket exhaust that was a bit louder than stock too. ;)
I own this bike and I do my maintenance every 1500 miles
Its a Honda right? They just keep going
I’m fixing to get my bachelors in EE and I’ve got my eyes on one of these later on down the road. I will say that the factory issues with flame out and the idle fuel cut off thing have got me a little hesitant. They say that this bike needs a vortex ecu and an aftermarket exhaust in order to be a great bike but that extra couple grand might be too much depending on my circumstances when the time to buy comes. I had a wr250r a few years back and I honestly wouldn’t mind going that rout again. We’ll see.
I put the AiM ECU on it with the stock pipe and it is perfect ruclips.net/video/pnsF1bx00Z4/видео.html The bike is perfect if you add that
Great video bro. I'm trying to decide between the 450 or the xr400r. It will be a 50 50 bike. I will be riding it to work which is only a 30 minute ride..thank you for the video.
I would get the 450rl way more up to date and more possibilities
Excellent review 👏 👌 👍. I have been eying this bike for a while now. I would be coming from a crf250l.
If you like Hondas you will be happy with it
Coming from street bikes, this bike was a learning experience. It definitely needed an ecu and throttle tamer. I’m still intimidated by it. What keeps me from trading it in is the ability to ride off road. I don’t think I want to give that up. There’s range anxiety with this bike. I do find myself riding where I technically shouldn’t be.
Thats what I want the ability to get off the beaten path. I love my Harley but the roads have gotten so bad and just plain dangerous with the amount of unlicensed illegal drivers I'm done I just want to hit the trail.
Just got mine.. Downsized from the Africa Twin. Agree with your findings.. Great bike! Very versatile.. Lots of sand here. The 450L has remained vertical so far. The AT would have been down 2 or 3 times by now. Lifting that hog in sand is very difficult for my fat ol’ 58 yr body. That’s with emphasis on the word “very”. This 450L doesn’t feel like much more than a mountain bike, or much more than an ol cr500. Power is impressive w/ a yosh & vortex. Liking mine in trail mode. Not much stalling, but that issue remains, yet not as bad as was stock. That’s it’s only issue imo. Not a big prob, just make sure you give some gas when feeding clutch..
I feel the same Way better than my Tiger 800 Thanks for watching
@@BornAGoon - Great videos, thanks!
Did you put a different ECU on yet?
@@mediocreman2 -- Not sure if the question was for me (probably not), but I might as well mention that I went to the AIM Taipan ecu. Intent was hoping to fix the flameouts, as mine is pretty bad about them. Used Taco Mike's maps. No question the thing rips arse.. Still flaming out, but improved over the vortex. I found that the idle must be at least the 1800r's as spec'd. Went a click over 1800. Also added some low end fueling, added less but still added a bit of fuel to the mid range. Pretty dam good..👍🏽 She's starting to grow on me now. Actually an excellent bike. Handling, suspension, great wide range pulling power.. I'm not sure, but I think the traction control helped me get up a pretty long hairy hill, because I easily tractored past my previous turning around point. Had it in Mellow mode with TC on 4. Didnt get squirly like it used to. The TC is subtle, but thinking it works pretty good. Good luck!
best review of this bike, thx! (watched many)
Thank you very much for the kind words
Do you think this bike would have a problem moving a 280 pound person around cause I've been wanting to buy one lately.
I bought mine used. 100 miles on it. Worth the much reduced price. (Got it in 2019 before the crazy prices)
Do you like it and have you done any mods
I absolutely love it. My mods list is pretty extensive but I'll try to keep it simple.
Handguards, bash guard, Yoshi rs4, PCV, 53T rear sprocket, Tubliss, some other protection and considering the Vortex. I'm used to the power cutting and I just feather the clutch a lot. I'll try to post a vid of my single track days soon.
Lol i had a '16 Tiger 800xcx, i recognize that trail of u crashing too i think...{without tattling, the glider area?} I rode in SD from 2012-2020. I think the 450RL is the perfect bike for around there. I ended up with a Klx250 and plated crf450x that I trucked to the desert. Miss the desert riding after moving back to northern WI, almost bought a new 450RL but its the wrong bike for here with woods single track.
Yes the rocky terrain is brutal on the Tiger I got myself in some tough spots at Coral Canyon lol
I keep thinking about getting a dual sport as my first bike. But at 6'2" 260lbs it's hard finding one to carry my weight and that wouldnt look small or be able to carry me properly at 70 down the highway. Only realistic option I see is the ktm 690 smc r.
6'5", 240. This bike is perfect for me. Got lowered footpegs, tall seatconcepts seat and some handlebar risers
not available where i live, but i would buy thing thing 110%, im thinking to import one from RedMoto factory.
Dude... you need more subscribers...
Thank you I am trying
you will get your subscribers now with the 450rl . i have one and love it.Looking for some good content . im in !
agree
Everyone always tells me it's too heavy for single track and then I see 300+ lbs dual sports with less power come by and nobody bats an eye.
Coming from the tiger its way lighter I think I like a little more weight on my bikes lol
Well I'm not an adventure rider. As much as I thought I would be. I live in Texas and there's not much adventure riding near me. Plenty of single track and MX ranches though so that's what I do. I'm considering getting rid of the 450l for a more single track oriented bike.
I am in the market for the 450rf but see mixed opinions on how it flames out? on slow technical single track do you find this to be a issue I am moving over from 26 years old XR650L . I don't want to make a $10000 mistake buying. I'm on the east coast a 80% of my riding is tight single track and super technical trails.
Cool. Sold my adv bikes for a crf300l and love it
How do you like adjusting to a smaller bike
@@BornAGoon I’ve had all sizes and styles. Occasionally I miss the power but I don’t miss the weight at all. I love the lightweight flickability. I was going to buy the 450L when they first came out but preferred a street engine as I commute more than trail ride. So a modified race engine wouldn’t work for me unfortunately.
I sat on that bike and it almost bottomed out. No way I could own it. I'm only 180lbs.
Too bad it is not imported in europe. We just have the underpowered CR 300 street legal. Would be perfect to replace my 400DR which is not imported anymore either…
Around the world on that ? Have you seen the service intervals ? 😬 It’s a detuned MX bike .
I wouldnt choose it for an around the world adventure but some people have
Solid review, man. Enjoyed your perspective about it. I wonder how you would rate it against a XR650R?
Thanks for watching. IMO this thing has way more potential than an XR 650 but its also twice the cost
‘R’ 😉. I have the same question. I haven’t ridden the 450rl yet but my 650R is getting long in the tooth and kick starting after falling down takes a lot out of me.
XR650R ? I own both, no comparison. I have held the throttle wide open at 100mph in the Mojave Desert on the 650 and it’s begging for more ! ! You have to be in excellent shape to hold on for long stretches…
I got the 2019 crf450x and i love it's a awesome bike
Yes I kinda wish I got that one
Question on the crf450rl do you notice some engine noise it's like a rattling noise and if so is it a cause for concern
Every single video I’ve watched everyone complained about flame oats and issues having to buy a ECU? This is first one who praised the bike. Did you find those issues at all?
I dont have flame out issues but the throttle is jerky If you get the G2 throttle tamer and ride a gear higher its doable You just have to change the way you ride
@@BornAGoon ok cool. Looking to sell my old Ktm 350 excf so trying to find a good replacement bike 🙂
This bike seems like good choice but the upgrades needed doesn’t :(
I think the bikes is likely for someone like myself who has a wr250r spent $7,000 to get it out the door and then another $2,000 to make it race worthy. then you go out on a group ride and one of the guys has one of these crf450ls and you become frustrated because for basically the same price you try a bike that does everything your custom wr250r does better out-of-the-box lol. probably something like that.
very true
Are you having any throttle response issues?... motor dying at lower RPM? Is this model detuned... with a more relaxed maintenance schedule like the 300 Rally? thanks for sharing, gracias (just caught the footnotes - issues, thanks again)
Yes I do have throttle issues The model is detunned
I put a g2 throttle controller on my honda 450rl will test it as soon as it gets warm
Winter sucks
nice review thank you
Thanks for watching!
Excellent information - was hard decided on 650l or this one .. I like them both but nimble is nice 60lbs less - reminds me of the CR 125's I used to ride - compared to an XR 500... ty for the review
Thanks for watching
What about the KTM 350 EXC-F or the HUSQVARNA counter part to the KTM. thats what im lookin into. Thoughts?
Very nice choice on those
I have an xr400 I dual sport, and the comment the highway must be Honda universal. 65mph it's happy enough, it'll do 75+ but not so happy
the XR is a great bike
This is a pretty good review
thank you
Great video👍 I was thinking about picking one of these up, but have concerns about the flameout issue everyone talks about with this bike. Did they fix that issue with the 2022 model? Thanks
Thats what i want to know also
I have not had any flame out issues just the jerky throttle
There is a ecu you can buy that helps a lot, a new exhaust also.
No shit. I just got mine about 5 days ago and it is incredible how shitty it runs. Its absolutely terrible. San diago stage 1 power house kit with full yoshi eshaust and the vortex is part of it with the thermostat delete is all ordered. But on back order. But anyways i am riding mine still while waiting but it is rather unpleasant because of how shitty it runs
That much money for a bike and you have to pay out that much money to make it run right?? My xr400 and xr650L fill my needs just fine
How may HP does this beauty has?
I had the 2019 crf450x and i traded it in on that bike just so i could ride on the street as well because I recently got my motorcycle endorsement the x was pretty much the same bike also ? can you use the vortex ecu with the stock exhaust
You can use the Vortex with the stock pipe I will be doing so when mine comes in and do a review
I miss ur videos. Hope ur doin well.
I usually post once a month now new video soon thanks for checking on me
As someone who rides a crf250l and a Tiger 800xcx myself I've been looking heavily at this bike but the elephant in the room for me is that maintenance wise and price wise it's almost no different from the KTM/husky and those bikes have it beat on paper for as i'm sure youre aware. I'm a honda guy over KTM any day but this bike in particular doesn't seem to have the usual advantages that hondas have over the orange bike at least in the specs. How did you make your decision?
I wanted the 690/701 too but there are none available out here and this one had no dealer markup so I said WTH. I was put off at first by the maintenece schedule but I know 2 people that have this bike with close to 10k miles on them and they are changing the oil every 3500 miles and valve checking at 7500 I cant recommend someone do that but my friends have had zero issues Its a Honda right? Even if you change the oil every 600 miles its a small job and I think it takes a little over a quart so its not too expensive
@@BornAGoon that's kinda what i felt. even though they quote pretty strict interval for a honda i don't think honda knows how to built a motor that can't run long on scheduled maintenance. maybe not recommended but hondas just have a track record of being able to take abuse. i don't want to spoil any future vids but are you thinking you might sell the tiger?
@@jf7393 I was thinking to sell the Tiger but its so hard to let go of that bike because of the experiences I had on it. I was thinking of keeping it and doing an off road build for the chanel Take a grinder to it and remove about 50 pounts of weight, fuel map it and see what monster I can build.
The vibrations on the team orange are way higher also, been there.
@@BornAGoon yep just over 1 quart. easy peasy. These things will last ! no comparison
to KTM
Where do you find the horse power to these CFR's? I bought my first CFR 450L in 2018. I added a new pipe which lightened it up a bit. then I bought the CFR450X turned it into a street legal machine. It's way faster on the low end but on the top end my L blew the X away. I got 37 miles a gallon on the X, then I added a new pipe. more power but it dropped my mileage to 27 miles a gallon. I was thinking about buying an R and making it street legal. there are so many CFR's it's confusing. the thing is on the X you lose the ignition and the ability to lock your forks, to get that great power on the low you lose the high end and some great features the L or RL has. my thing is riding wheelies. I do love my X but the problem I found about buying these bikes you always lose something to gain somewhere else. the CFR's are all kickass bikes. whatever I get I have to make it street legal because I don't have a pickup or a trailer to haul it. after all my research I just might keep my X. I would be totally pleased with it if it had a fork locking ignition. have fun and ride on !
I put the athena GET ecu in is Graves block plate and a pipe on the 450RL runs like a champ and never stalls
I like Honda but I'd like to see it ride circles around a KTM exc-f that skinny seat would get painful after 30 minutes of cruising
this is an off road trail bike not a true dual sport.
Any problems with the infamous "flame out" or stalling issue? I am very interested in the 2022 450RL, but concerned about stalling issues. I read they updated the ECU that is supposed to address this but that it's still not properly solved. Some people say there is no problem but most say it's a problem. So I'm a little confused here.
No not really any flame out If you watch this video here it will solve most of the problems without an ECU or pipe ruclips.net/video/Z-aPWWJK0_Y/видео.html
Currently own a lightly modded 2020 drz 400s model. Upgraded knobby tires, pro taper bars, removed spark arrestor (no 3x3 mod but noticable performance). Coming from a dirtbike background, I found myself at the limits of the suspension and weight of the drz. Though the engine performance was adequate. Wondering about ditching the DRZ for the 450L. Think it's worth the $5k+ (CAN) to upgrade ?
It depends on how you look at it It is a way better motorcycle IMO to the DRZ but you have to add the ECU for $800 to this bike its almost unrideable without it. The throttle chop on this is unreal Stalls everywhere
i ride with a guy who has the drz400. i own a crf450L. we swap back and forth at times. they're very different bikes - you're not "upgrading" by going from one to the other, just "sidegrading". it's a different ride, it has different strengths, it's up to what you want out of your bike. try to find one to test ride before taking that plunge, and make sure your test ride includes off road. that's where the differences will REALLY show up.
EPA has to be a pain in the ass in everything
Hey man. Does your bike engine ever flame out or stall? I was watching a buddy ride this bike on the road and the engine kept shutting off? I’m debating if I want to buy one of these or a KTM. I’m a new rider so I’m not really sure what is better
No I am not having any flame out issues what is a problem is the ecu you have to buy the vortex and it will take you 4 months if you can wait that long buy the honda if not buy the ktm I will be doing a vid in a fee days so check back on the channel
@@BornAGoon Could you please explain why I would need to buy Vortex ecu? Is there a problem with the factory ecu or is the vortex ecu just for better performance?
coming off a bigger bike you might stick with it but every dual sport/dirtbike rider has sold theirs in less than a year but that was the crf 450L, I dont know what differences there are in the RL, but for off road i have heard this bike leaves a lot to be desired, let us know after you have had it a while, thanks for the vid!
Thanks for watching Its a funky bike lol
The RL is the same bike they just added the R to the name to say "yeah its still a race bike" since the maintenance is more often.
I would rather have a better suspension and a better ECU . I'll give up some h.p .
My DRZ400 whips it. Hands down.
😂
could you put street tire on those rims ?
yes
everyone's selling them to get a 300L. might be better to stick a plate on a 450X too from what people are sayin
The 450x would be better if you could plate it
I have a 2021 Honda CRF 450 R Worksedition getting ready to sell it or trade it in for this bike in the video
good lucj with the purchance and let me know how you like it
Nice video! Ive been looking at one of these.
Im in Vegas too, we should do a ride together sometime. Hit me up if you're game!
We should meet up I am new here and only hit a few places So far Nelson is my favorite
@@BornAGoon Im new here as well, Im yet to ride nelsons. Im on the north side with a 350 at the moment. I ride kyle canyon mostly. Im game as long as it's not early in the morning then I can make it. Lol
Honda need to sell it in Australia
I wonder if it has enough fuel range for Austrailia lol
Service interval?
When you get away from a 2 stroke you have a second class bike.
long live the 2 smokers
Buy Suzuki drz 400 b happy 😁 it's just cheaper & easy er 1k$ for a ECU🤣 NO THANKS
for the $10k price i would settle for NOTHING less than a CFR450R with lights. This neutered bastard should sell for far less than an R model.
lol " neutered bastard " I'm using that
@@BornAGoon when i first heard this was going to be announced i was sick with anticipation. Ive owned a cfr450r and OMG that thing is a beast. I test road the RL and was sick with disappointment. Its not awful but its not a $10k dual sport by any stretch.
14k out the door with a couple goodies it needs