I think the best solution will be a mixture. If you want EV, or live in a city, buy an EV. If you prefer, or need ICE, then you should be able to buy one. Just banning ICE in cities would cut air pollution massively. Thanks for watching. 👍
The wars will still go on with or without oil. The war is about the control of people who have the oil because it's a valuable resource. The US will soon be fighting lithium wars when the oil wars end. Blame the US and NATO not the oil. BTW, the vast majority of the countries in the world do not have to fight wars for their oil. They just go out and pay for it because oil producers want the money too.
truth is I care little about the environment. I am passionate about being an EV owner because I do not wake up to find some mystery fluid on the floor of my garage that I need to loose the vehicle for a few days while my mechanic prepares to tell me it will cost $600 to repair. No gas stations and no repairs. Other politics I care little bout. thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Great video, here in Ireland our government still pushing 2030 but practically no infrastructure for EVs outside major cities, crazy, I live in the sticks with 3 kids and 3 diesel cars plus my work diesel van ,can't see any other viable way at moment!
Thanks Stephen. It seems the infrastructure everywhere is way behind the aspirations if the EV rollout.. I think the best solution will be a mixture. If you want EV, or live in a city, buy an EV. If you prefer, or need ICE, then you should be able to buy one. Just banning ICE in cities would cut air pollution massively. Thanks for watching. 👍
Great video, but you make an argument from the standpoint of car ownership and its various forms. Which makes sense of course. One thing you thus didn't mention was option 3, just...don't get a car? Fewer cars on the road. Save money, hassle, give the greedy government less money every month. Hire if you really need one. Or get the bus. Many of us work from home and just need decent broadband. Of course, I'm not referring to the likes of the commenter below who lives rurally and needs a van for employment. We dont need half of them, and I mean half. I wish people could wake up to the advantages to them, personally. Save money and hit back against this corrupt government who only sees you as a cash cow to be milked.
Some rebuts from a person who owns 2 EVs (both Tesla): 1. The government should not be subsidizing EVs. I'm getting the $7500 rebate for my Tesla this year. The government is taking money from poor people (taxes) and giving it to rich people like me. Stop that. 2. I don't really care if EVs just move pollution to China. In fact, make more of that and ship it to China. 3. Charger issues. I have a Tesla. What charger issues? 4. To tax EVs for road use, they are going to have to have cars report mileage to the government. HA. Good luck with that. The hackers are going to be selling USB dongles to defeat this like hotcakes. Finally, don't like EVs? Don't buy one.
No doubt, but as the debate moves forward guess there's opportunity for update videos. Hopefully debate will take place and discussions will include alternatives. I believe an ideal solution would be a mixture of EV's, ICE, Hybrid depending on choice and situation, rather than a blanket ban on one side or the other of this binary debate. Thanks for watching..
I bought a Tesla, not to save the World, but have a reliable car for short drives around town and an occasional road trip! It does a great job doing that with almost no maintenance. The purchase experience was great as well. I'm set up at level 2 charging at home and charge on off peak hours at night. Is that OK??
I'm glad its working well for you. There's undoubtedly folks for who an EV is the optimal choice. Others not so much, I just think there should be choice for all going forward according to needs/wants.. Thanks for watching. 👍
I bought a Tesla and it broke down at midnight after only 8 months and 5k miles. No ICE has ever left me stranded on the side of the road. Took 3 weeks of Tesla struggling to fix it. They had to drop the entire rear subframe and HV battery. Horrible. Sold it as soon as I got it back and bought a V8. By the way, Tesla’s takes all the same maintenance as an ICE except for annual oil changes, which are cheap and easy now. Can do it all from top of engine.
Brilliant video. Your points about the government and their decision to go with EVs is like a runaway train, madness. Interesting how hydrogen is getting a bit more airtime in parliament now. I'm sticking to ICE!
@@CarTrouble Absolutely. I leased a brand new BMW 330e in 2016 for 3 yrs (self employed, tax efficient option). Year 1 tax / BIK totaled £600, by year 3 is was over £1200... they will always find a way to tax us, it will be taxes on renewables before too long!!
Hello “Car Trouble”, As an EV owner, I have to say that this video is probably one of the better and faired videos I have seen on this topic. Honestly, I cannot say why it seem impossible to have a grown-up debate about this topic. What I would like to point out is that there some inconstancies in your arguments plus some convenient gaps of neglecting to tell the whole story and not just what supports your point of view: Yes, electric cars will cause more CO2 emission to produce compared to an ICE car. Depending on the energy mix of the country it will take north of 20-40k miles to break even. The point is that an average car, including EV’s, will run much further than that over their lifetime hence creating a positive climate impact. Considering that the UK grid gets cleaner every year, that impact will increase over time. The use of copper is a side effect of the energy transition and not because of EV’s. The simple fact is that energy is getting produced further away (offshore wind farms) to where it is used (cities and towns). This energy transition is needed if we want to have any chance of combating climate change. Cobalt mining: Yes older battery generations used cobalt. The new battery technology being used now in EV’s used no more cobalt. The same cannot be said for ICE cars. Cobalt is, and will be used in the future for the refining of petrol. So this point is an own goal for ICE cars. Price of EV’s: Yes, they are more expensive to buy, however the lifetime cost of ownership is usually cheaper due to lower running- and maintenance cost. And surely you can’t argue that the price of a new EV is a disadvantage while arguing while second hand prices have fallen recently. Maybe the solution should be to recommend buying a second-hand EV? Maybe it would also be helpful to mention that pretty much every major chain of dealerships are now using industry standard tests to work out the remaining capacity of a battery. So little chance now to buy a second-hand EV that will have a battery failure a couple of years down the line. There now many reports out for first-generation Tesla’s with 500k+ milage still running on the first battery. One last work regarding the charging infrastructure: Yes, it would be helpful to have more ultra-rapid chargers on trunk roads. I very much relate to your story of being delayed for a long time for a 10-minute unplanned charging stop. The good news is that capacity of the charging network is increasing massively. There are multiple examples of charging hubs with 20/30 or 50+ ultra-rapid charges coming online or already being online. Just a couple of thought from my side. Thanks for reading the full comment. Cheers,
Thanks for taking the time to comment and for the polite and reasoned argument. You make some interesting points and I welcome all debate from both sides. The more we all talk, the better informed both sides will be. If only we could convince the 'grown up's of that so they can work on some suitable policies for all.
Fantastic video as always! I strongly believe a petrol hybrid will be the best of both worlds in the short future and exploration of hydrogen and synthetic fuels long term. Keep up the great content 🎉
The tax and gas fees needs to be made over and over again. It would be best for EVers if they remain a small percentage of cars, that way the govt ignores them and keep taking road tax from ICE cars. Subsidizes and no road tax is the best situation for them
Interesting ELon uses aluminium for wireing not a copper, what do you have next? ICE are to most env. friendly to build? There is no pulution and cobalt used for diesel refinement? what else?
If they put some effort in, I really think they could make it cheaper to produce on a mass scale. But they won't unless the right people will make money from it..
@@CarTrouble precisely that, they can make more money with battery push than with hydrogen push as they wouldn't need new car, just a conversion of existing, ditto with sythentic fuels. Conspiracy man, conspiracy!
@@CarTrouble oil companies could make a fortune by shifting to hydrogen, they can even make it from oil until they get a magical solution to make it more efficiently from water. They also have practically unlimited amounts of money to throw at solving the problem. They aren't though are they, any basic cost analysis shows it won't make sense to use 5x the electricity to make H2 than it would take to power a car battery the same distance. There may be specific places where H2 make sense, aviation maybe, but it won't be cars.
Geoff Buys Cars and The MacMaster have just done a video collaboration that plainly show that electric cars are not completely viable, it was an interesting watch, especially The MacMasters perspective.
Ha, yes I suppose I did. But I meant they're unaffordable for most people new, and the second hand market won't facilitate everyone switching over for a long time, and also wanted to highlight the huge depreciation hits folks will take for that to happen. Its all interesting debate..Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
Banning petrol-cars is even more foolish than hating electric-cars based on politics, even though they're much quicker, much quieter, much simpler, easier to maintain, and less expensive to fuel. And banning them is as pointless as banning flip phones or film camera or VHS tapes.
Good point, well made. There are still people who like to use those items, even if the market demand moved on. Banning things is all a bit North Korea.
The one thing I like about my PHEV is that the costs of propulsion are consistent as electricity prices for home service generally only change once a year. On top of that, if there are ever supply chain issues making gasoline unavailable for any lenght of time in my area then I can still get groceries, get to and from work, and just have no stress about what to do. My plan is to have solar on the house so that even if things get really bad, one of the vehicles can be powered by electricity so I can still be mobile. On top of that, electric prpulsion is about 1/4 the price of fuel propulsion in my area, so over its lifetime it basically costs the same or a little less than an equivalent ICE vehicle. Seems like a win win to me.
I suggest you do some research how hydrogen can be produced and transported, and how much energy is wasted in its production process. Then do some more research about the life cycle and the cost of hydrogen engine types. You'll quickly realize that Hydrogen is not the way.
Good point. I'm not a staunch advocate of hydrogen but I'd like to explore the possibilities of alternatives. If they put more research in can they bring down the cost and waste from hydrogen production? If not, what other alternatives could be viable if they put the right scientists and finance behind them. I'm not set on a particular solution, its the lack of debate that is troubling me.. Thanks for watching. 🙂
The EU target was always 2035 and still is... Boris listened to his greener than green wife and made a huge mistake ( made a huge mistake when he married her anyway ).
The obsession with domestic EVs is a bit of a sideshow. Domestic cars account for about 12% of UK CO2 emissions. If EVs offer a 50% lifetime saving, they can only solve 6% of the problem. Plus, of course, the saving is at the tail end of their life. In the short term they will increase CO2. There are most important issues we need to address.
hi, nice video, i like the opened minded ness i think ultimately nothing is perfect every types have pros and cons Fossil fuels are a finite source EVs do have their issues, I totally agree on the battery fires being Xtreme hazard. in some way i find the industry has rushed to EVs before we have fully developed a safe battery, like solid state batteries seems a safer alternative yet we only see prototypes for last 2 decades, it's coming, it's coming, but clearly it isn't. otherwise it would already be in EVs as is. i believe EVs are more efficient over ICE, and In the case people do manage to charge using hydro power or nuclear or alternative sustainable energy like solar..that combination will make the potential of EVs to have the least emissions over life time of use. hydrogen on the other end has pros and cons. but overall if anyone is against EVs well you can't be for hydrogen, as hydrogen will require also energy to be extracted which will ultimately no difference if the energy comes from a polluting source, it will only further be less efficient from all the energy losses and transportation. now EVs in their current stages aren't at their max technological advanced staged yet. batteries are too big and heavy and it will take some mor years before companies manage to bring the energy density up and weight down. so there is a big potential in EVs becoming drastically more efficient than they currently are . as for ICE, they been around for a while now, hybrids, plugin hybrids are as good as it will get in squeezing as much efficiency out of ICE and minimizing the emissions. i think ICE shouldn't be banned. embracing the improvement of technology in all the various types of different technologies while improving every one them should be the aspiration. ultimately if we want to save the planet, got to optimize your lifestyle and reduce resources. either move close to work or find a job near your home..walk or bicycle instead. use vehicle the least possible. if i could develop a type of vehicle, I'd want to have a plug-in biodiesel hybrid. use and charge using solar or hydro(like niagara falls) . then if you really need, you could use biodiesel to extend your range, and if you want to mod it into used vegetable oils) that would a nice vehicle..in theory most plug-in hybrids are gasoline but if there would be plug-in hybrid diesel, this could be even more efficient and biodiesel being 99% less emissions than diesel, coming by reducing otherwise waste. great combo
You are correct. Electric cars won't save us. What may save us in urban areas is a public transit system that is efficient and effective, accessible and reliable, and that runs on renewable energy. What will kill us, however, is the continued use of internal combustion engines for our transportation.
But do you think ICE cars are anywhere near as destructive as the pollution caused by industry, air travel and shipping. Seems like only a small percentage..
@@CarTrouble Research conducted by the International Council on Clean Transportation across the world’s four largest auto markets finds that only battery and fuel cell electric vehicles have the “potential” to meet Paris Agreement goals. The transport sector is second to only electricity and heat for global emissions. Road transport accounts for 15% of total CO2 emissions. Aviation is under 3%.
They also get very aggressive if you criticise EVs. I had to filter out some really vile playground comments. Silly really. And they're supposed to be intelligent progressives..
The number one consideration in buying a car is not the purchase price, the operational expenses, the lifetime cost of ownership, the nascent home and public charging vs the established fuel delivery system, the reliability, roominess of the car, the practicality or the tech, no. And the only way you are ever going to know why to buy an EV is to get in one, put it in Plaid mode and drop the hammer, preferably while next to some multi million Euro "Super car".
I loved horses but eventually succumbed to quite inferior ICEV. Missed feeding the horses and all the horseshit that was great on the garden. Now transitioned from ICEV to EVs. No problems. To heck with the emmissions, EVs are simply a much, much nicer vehicle in which to travel about.
You should try a Tesla car before having an opinion about EV. My reason for buying a Tesla car was ZERO todo with saving the planet but for being a much more comfortable and better experience, its way more advanced to any high end (2x price) that I have driven.
I had a Tesla for a month on loan from work. It was quick, very quick, and I lked that. Bbut I wasn't so impressed with the seats (personal preference) , and I found the charging a bit of a ballache for long journeys, but my most vivid memory of it was when it decided to do an emergency stop on the motorway. Twice. Thanks for watching. 🙂
We need to go nuclear. All the other shit is just noise. I can tell you as fact (as I'm a home builder) all homes would need 3 phase electrics (like a commercial business) in order to get a reasonable speed of home charge. Most people won't settle for 7kwh charging at home especially when car batteries double in size. They'll be 24 hours plus to charge without 3 phase. Nobody seems to of thought about that.
I agree about the three phase, but everyone driving around with a mini nuclear reactor is a frightening thought. There are some really idiots around. We still need labels on bleach bottles that say do not drink!. Thanks for watching 👍
@@CarTrouble I think Dale's point might be we need Nuclear power stations. I don't wanna see anything nuclear going down the road or installed in a home. The big issue is no one wants the nuclear waste. Onkalo in finland solved that issue and here in the states, Yucca was to be our depository. Even the local residents wanted the Yucca mountain facility. It was tree huggers a thousand miles away that squashed that plan. What governments will never understand is you cannot legislate new technology into being. It must come organically. Let the market decide, as far as climate change, I fly for a living and I'm not seeing it. If rising sea level was such a serious threat, then why does Obama and his HUSBAND own sea level property???? It's all bullshit. I would on the other hand welcome 3phase at home, no more VFD's to run my milling machine and lathe!
In a nuclear power station, water is the fuel and uranium( Galen Winsor) is the catalyst to extract hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen from it as our lungs and fish gills do from the water vapour we breathe.
Glad someone is calling out that this isn't binary debate. Well said.
I think the best solution will be a mixture. If you want EV, or live in a city, buy an EV. If you prefer, or need ICE, then you should be able to buy one. Just banning ICE in cities would cut air pollution massively. Thanks for watching. 👍
Can you imagine all the emissions from all these wars.
exactly!
Wars, shipping, factories.... changing to electric cars isn't going to scratch the surface... Thanks for watching. 👍
The wars will still go on with or without oil. The war is about the control of people who have the oil because it's a valuable resource.
The US will soon be fighting lithium wars when the oil wars end. Blame the US and NATO not the oil.
BTW, the vast majority of the countries in the world do not have to fight wars for their oil. They just go out and pay for it because oil producers want the money too.
A market for EVs, chuck them in the trenches? Sorry, war is profit making scam.
And where do you think comes the money for all those wars? From pv panel selling or oil selling. Have an educates guess.
No need for oil, no money for war.
Good point, although I think they'll always find something to have wars about. Powerful people make money from war..
truth is I care little about the environment. I am passionate about being an EV owner because I do not wake up to find some mystery fluid on the floor of my garage that I need to loose the vehicle for a few days while my mechanic prepares to tell me it will cost $600 to repair. No gas stations and no repairs. Other politics I care little bout. thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
What EV did you choose?
Great video, here in Ireland our government still pushing 2030 but practically no infrastructure for EVs outside major cities, crazy, I live in the sticks with 3 kids and 3 diesel cars plus my work diesel van ,can't see any other viable way at moment!
Thanks Stephen. It seems the infrastructure everywhere is way behind the aspirations if the EV rollout.. I think the best solution will be a mixture. If you want EV, or live in a city, buy an EV. If you prefer, or need ICE, then you should be able to buy one. Just banning ICE in cities would cut air pollution massively. Thanks for watching. 👍
Great video, but you make an argument from the standpoint of car ownership and its various forms. Which makes sense of course. One thing you thus didn't mention was option 3, just...don't get a car? Fewer cars on the road. Save money, hassle, give the greedy government less money every month. Hire if you really need one. Or get the bus. Many of us work from home and just need decent broadband. Of course, I'm not referring to the likes of the commenter below who lives rurally and needs a van for employment.
We dont need half of them, and I mean half. I wish people could wake up to the advantages to them, personally. Save money and hit back against this corrupt government who only sees you as a cash cow to be milked.
Some rebuts from a person who owns 2 EVs (both Tesla):
1. The government should not be subsidizing EVs. I'm getting the $7500 rebate for my Tesla this year. The government is taking money from poor people (taxes) and giving it to rich people like me. Stop that.
2. I don't really care if EVs just move pollution to China. In fact, make more of that and ship it to China.
3. Charger issues. I have a Tesla. What charger issues?
4. To tax EVs for road use, they are going to have to have cars report mileage to the government. HA. Good luck with that. The hackers are going to be selling USB dongles to defeat this like hotcakes.
Finally, don't like EVs? Don't buy one.
I enjoyed this comment, thanks 👍. Finally someone with a different take on it all- and a sense of humour. Thanks for watching 😂
This video will age like milk.
No doubt, but as the debate moves forward guess there's opportunity for update videos. Hopefully debate will take place and discussions will include alternatives. I believe an ideal solution would be a mixture of EV's, ICE, Hybrid depending on choice and situation, rather than a blanket ban on one side or the other of this binary debate. Thanks for watching..
I bought a Tesla, not to save the World, but have a reliable car for short drives around town and an occasional road trip! It does a great job doing that with almost no maintenance. The purchase experience was great as well. I'm set up at level 2 charging at home and charge on off peak hours at night. Is that OK??
I'm glad its working well for you. There's undoubtedly folks for who an EV is the optimal choice. Others not so much, I just think there should be choice for all going forward according to needs/wants.. Thanks for watching. 👍
I bought a Tesla and it broke down at midnight after only 8 months and 5k miles. No ICE has ever left me stranded on the side of the road. Took 3 weeks of Tesla struggling to fix it. They had to drop the entire rear subframe and HV battery. Horrible. Sold it as soon as I got it back and bought a V8. By the way, Tesla’s takes all the same maintenance as an ICE except for annual oil changes, which are cheap and easy now. Can do it all from top of engine.
I you want something reliable, you shouldn't have bought a Tesla, don't keep it after the warranty is over.
Brilliant video. Your points about the government and their decision to go with EVs is like a runaway train, madness. Interesting how hydrogen is getting a bit more airtime in parliament now.
I'm sticking to ICE!
I agree, they'll still want their money, they don't care what fuel its from..
@@CarTrouble Absolutely. I leased a brand new BMW 330e in 2016 for 3 yrs (self employed, tax efficient option). Year 1 tax / BIK totaled £600, by year 3 is was over £1200... they will always find a way to tax us, it will be taxes on renewables before too long!!
Hello “Car Trouble”,
As an EV owner, I have to say that this video is probably one of the better and faired videos I have seen on this topic. Honestly, I cannot say why it seem impossible to have a grown-up debate about this topic.
What I would like to point out is that there some inconstancies in your arguments plus some convenient gaps of neglecting to tell the whole story and not just what supports your point of view:
Yes, electric cars will cause more CO2 emission to produce compared to an ICE car. Depending on the energy mix of the country it will take north of 20-40k miles to break even. The point is that an average car, including EV’s, will run much further than that over their lifetime hence creating a positive climate impact. Considering that the UK grid gets cleaner every year, that impact will increase over time.
The use of copper is a side effect of the energy transition and not because of EV’s. The simple fact is that energy is getting produced further away (offshore wind farms) to where it is used (cities and towns). This energy transition is needed if we want to have any chance of combating climate change.
Cobalt mining: Yes older battery generations used cobalt. The new battery technology being used now in EV’s used no more cobalt. The same cannot be said for ICE cars. Cobalt is, and will be used in the future for the refining of petrol. So this point is an own goal for ICE cars.
Price of EV’s: Yes, they are more expensive to buy, however the lifetime cost of ownership is usually cheaper due to lower running- and maintenance cost. And surely you can’t argue that the price of a new EV is a disadvantage while arguing while second hand prices have fallen recently. Maybe the solution should be to recommend buying a second-hand EV? Maybe it would also be helpful to mention that pretty much every major chain of dealerships are now using industry standard tests to work out the remaining capacity of a battery. So little chance now to buy a second-hand EV that will have a battery failure a couple of years down the line. There now many reports out for first-generation Tesla’s with 500k+ milage still running on the first battery.
One last work regarding the charging infrastructure: Yes, it would be helpful to have more ultra-rapid chargers on trunk roads. I very much relate to your story of being delayed for a long time for a 10-minute unplanned charging stop. The good news is that capacity of the charging network is increasing massively. There are multiple examples of charging hubs with 20/30 or 50+ ultra-rapid charges coming online or already being online.
Just a couple of thought from my side.
Thanks for reading the full comment.
Cheers,
Thanks for taking the time to comment and for the polite and reasoned argument. You make some interesting points and I welcome all debate from both sides. The more we all talk, the better informed both sides will be. If only we could convince the 'grown up's of that so they can work on some suitable policies for all.
Yes indeed. 👍@@CarTrouble
Fantastic video as always! I strongly believe a petrol hybrid will be the best of both worlds in the short future and exploration of hydrogen and synthetic fuels long term.
Keep up the great content 🎉
Thanks a million - and merry Christmas!
Very good and true ime sticking with my q5 and boxster 👍
Nice 👍 Thanks for watching...
The tax and gas fees needs to be made over and over again. It would be best for EVers if they remain a small percentage of cars, that way the govt ignores them and keep taking road tax from ICE cars.
Subsidizes and no road tax is the best situation for them
Some very valid points here ♥️
Thanks for watching - much appreciated. 😀👍
Interesting ELon uses aluminium for wireing not a copper, what do you have next? ICE are to most env. friendly to build? There is no pulution and cobalt used for diesel refinement? what else?
Oh yeaah fires .. OK :)
I wasn't talking about copper for the wiring in the cars, but for the charging infrastructure..
I’ve done 14,500 kms on my e-bikes in the last 4.5 years and about 4,500 kms in total in my WRX - has saved me heaps $$$
Awesome video, very valid imput into the debate. Bravo 😊
Thank you, I hope the debate opens up, its worrying that it seems to be a done deal.. Thanks for watching. 🙂
Hydrogen, that’s all I’m saying, hydrogen.
If they put some effort in, I really think they could make it cheaper to produce on a mass scale. But they won't unless the right people will make money from it..
@@CarTrouble precisely that, they can make more money with battery push than with hydrogen push as they wouldn't need new car, just a conversion of existing, ditto with sythentic fuels. Conspiracy man, conspiracy!
@@CarTrouble oil companies could make a fortune by shifting to hydrogen, they can even make it from oil until they get a magical solution to make it more efficiently from water. They also have practically unlimited amounts of money to throw at solving the problem.
They aren't though are they, any basic cost analysis shows it won't make sense to use 5x the electricity to make H2 than it would take to power a car battery the same distance. There may be specific places where H2 make sense, aviation maybe, but it won't be cars.
lol
hydrogen needs to be extracted which takes energy as well, EV will always be the winner in terms of efficiency vs hydrogen by far . like very far
Geoff Buys Cars and The MacMaster have just done a video collaboration that plainly show that electric cars are not completely viable, it was an interesting watch, especially The MacMasters perspective.
I'll take a look at that. Thanks for watching. 👍
eletctris cars are saving ME from gas prices now. : )
How much do you estimate your saving every month?
First you say EVs are unaffordable and then that second hand prices are plummeting. 😂 Problem solved.
Ha, yes I suppose I did. But I meant they're unaffordable for most people new, and the second hand market won't facilitate everyone switching over for a long time, and also wanted to highlight the huge depreciation hits folks will take for that to happen. Its all interesting debate..Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
Banning petrol-cars is even more foolish than hating electric-cars based on politics, even though they're much quicker, much quieter, much simpler, easier to maintain, and less expensive to fuel. And banning them is as pointless as banning flip phones or film camera or VHS tapes.
Good point, well made. There are still people who like to use those items, even if the market demand moved on. Banning things is all a bit North Korea.
California: The place that requires you to switch to an electric car, then it cuts off the electricity.
When did that happen exactly?
@@climatechange6513
Every summer when we have rolling blackouts because they’ve decommissioned the nuclear power plants.
Ebikes will save the world, for the cities at least, they're really great and efficient, barely use my car anymore, for my daily needs.
You are living like an animal.
😂😂
I am inclined to agree. For those in cities, with short journey needs it makes perfect sense... as an option, not the forced on all.
Superb video! Well researched and joyfully presented
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.. 👍
The one thing I like about my PHEV is that the costs of propulsion are consistent as electricity prices for home service generally only change once a year.
On top of that, if there are ever supply chain issues making gasoline unavailable for any lenght of time in my area then I can still get groceries, get to and from work, and just have no stress about what to do.
My plan is to have solar on the house so that even if things get really bad, one of the vehicles can be powered by electricity so I can still be mobile.
On top of that, electric prpulsion is about 1/4 the price of fuel propulsion in my area, so over its lifetime it basically costs the same or a little less than an equivalent ICE vehicle.
Seems like a win win to me.
It does make sense to hedge your bets with multiple fuel options.
I suggest you do some research how hydrogen can be produced and transported, and how much energy is wasted in its production process. Then do some more research about the life cycle and the cost of hydrogen engine types. You'll quickly realize that Hydrogen is not the way.
Good point. I'm not a staunch advocate of hydrogen but I'd like to explore the possibilities of alternatives. If they put more research in can they bring down the cost and waste from hydrogen production? If not, what other alternatives could be viable if they put the right scientists and finance behind them. I'm not set on a particular solution, its the lack of debate that is troubling me.. Thanks for watching. 🙂
same as a 200 000 pound bentley worth nothing now .hydrogen way to go nice to see you again sir
What happened to the first two?
The EU target was always 2035 and still is... Boris listened to his greener than green wife and made a huge mistake ( made a huge mistake when he married her anyway ).
The obsession with domestic EVs is a bit of a sideshow. Domestic cars account for about 12% of UK CO2 emissions. If EVs offer a 50% lifetime saving, they can only solve 6% of the problem. Plus, of course, the saving is at the tail end of their life. In the short term they will increase CO2. There are most important issues we need to address.
Good point.
hi, nice video, i like the opened minded ness
i think ultimately nothing is perfect
every types have pros and cons
Fossil fuels are a finite source
EVs do have their issues, I totally agree on the battery fires being Xtreme hazard.
in some way i find the industry has rushed to EVs before we have fully developed a safe battery, like solid state batteries seems a safer alternative yet we only see prototypes for last 2 decades, it's coming, it's coming, but clearly it isn't. otherwise it would already be in EVs as is.
i believe EVs are more efficient over ICE, and In the case people do manage to charge using hydro power or nuclear or alternative sustainable energy like solar..that combination will make the potential of EVs to have the least emissions over life time of use.
hydrogen on the other end has pros and cons. but overall if anyone is against EVs well you can't be for hydrogen, as hydrogen will require also energy to be extracted which will ultimately no difference if the energy comes from a polluting source, it will only further be less efficient from all the energy losses and transportation.
now EVs in their current stages aren't at their max technological advanced staged yet. batteries are too big and heavy and it will take some mor years before companies manage to bring the energy density up and weight down. so there is a big potential in EVs becoming drastically more efficient than they currently are .
as for ICE, they been around for a while now, hybrids, plugin hybrids are as good as it will get in squeezing as much efficiency out of ICE and minimizing the emissions.
i think ICE shouldn't be banned.
embracing the improvement of technology in all the various types of different technologies while improving every one them should be the aspiration.
ultimately if we want to save the planet, got to optimize your lifestyle and reduce resources.
either move close to work or find a job near your home..walk or bicycle instead. use vehicle the least possible.
if i could develop a type of vehicle, I'd want to have a plug-in biodiesel hybrid. use and charge using solar or hydro(like niagara falls) . then if you really need, you could use biodiesel to extend your range, and if you want to mod it into used vegetable oils)
that would a nice vehicle..in theory most plug-in hybrids are gasoline but if there would be plug-in hybrid diesel, this could be even more efficient and biodiesel being 99% less emissions than diesel, coming by reducing otherwise waste. great combo
You make some really good points. Thanks for watching. 👍
You are correct. Electric cars won't save us. What may save us in urban areas is a public transit system that is efficient and effective, accessible and reliable, and that runs on renewable energy. What will kill us, however, is the continued use of internal combustion engines for our transportation.
But do you think ICE cars are anywhere near as destructive as the pollution caused by industry, air travel and shipping. Seems like only a small percentage..
@@CarTrouble Research conducted by the International Council on Clean Transportation across the world’s four largest auto markets finds that only battery and fuel cell electric vehicles have the “potential” to meet Paris Agreement goals.
The transport sector is second to only electricity and heat for global emissions.
Road transport accounts for 15% of total CO2 emissions. Aviation is under 3%.
@@CarTrouble Ocean shipping is also under 3%
EV evangelists won’t listen to anybody, but a very good exposition nevertheless.
They also get very aggressive if you criticise EVs. I had to filter out some really vile playground comments. Silly really. And they're supposed to be intelligent progressives..
The number one consideration in buying a car is not the purchase price, the operational expenses, the lifetime cost of ownership, the nascent home and public charging vs the established fuel delivery system, the reliability, roominess of the car, the practicality or the tech, no. And the only way you are ever going to know why to buy an EV is to get in one, put it in Plaid mode and drop the hammer, preferably while next to some multi million Euro "Super car".
I loved horses but eventually succumbed to quite inferior ICEV. Missed feeding the horses and all the horseshit that was great on the garden.
Now transitioned from ICEV to EVs. No problems. To heck with the emmissions, EVs are simply a much, much nicer vehicle in which to travel about.
I'd argue not all of them are nice to travel about in. Porsche Taycan is quite nice, NIssan Leaf not so much.. Thanks for watching,..
Synthetic carbon capture fuel is the future
Interesting, I'll try and read up on that.. Thanks for watching..
You should try a Tesla car before having an opinion about EV.
My reason for buying a Tesla car was ZERO todo with saving the planet but for being a much more comfortable and better experience, its way more advanced to any high end (2x price) that I have driven.
I had a Tesla for a month on loan from work. It was quick, very quick, and I lked that. Bbut I wasn't so impressed with the seats (personal preference) , and I found the charging a bit of a ballache for long journeys, but my most vivid memory of it was when it decided to do an emergency stop on the motorway. Twice.
Thanks for watching. 🙂
Thankyou for a great common sense video
Thanks for watching it!
We need to go nuclear. All the other shit is just noise. I can tell you as fact (as I'm a home builder) all homes would need 3 phase electrics (like a commercial business) in order to get a reasonable speed of home charge. Most people won't settle for 7kwh charging at home especially when car batteries double in size. They'll be 24 hours plus to charge without 3 phase. Nobody seems to of thought about that.
I agree about the three phase, but everyone driving around with a mini nuclear reactor is a frightening thought. There are some really idiots around. We still need labels on bleach bottles that say do not drink!. Thanks for watching 👍
@@CarTrouble ha ha. Like a French submarine
@@CarTrouble I think Dale's point might be we need Nuclear power stations. I don't wanna see anything nuclear going down the road or installed in a home. The big issue is no one wants the nuclear waste. Onkalo in finland solved that issue and here in the states, Yucca was to be our depository. Even the local residents wanted the Yucca mountain facility. It was tree huggers a thousand miles away that squashed that plan. What governments will never understand is you cannot legislate new technology into being. It must come organically. Let the market decide, as far as climate change, I fly for a living and I'm not seeing it. If rising sea level was such a serious threat, then why does Obama and his HUSBAND own sea level property???? It's all bullshit. I would on the other hand welcome 3phase at home, no more VFD's to run my milling machine and lathe!
In a nuclear power station, water is the fuel and uranium( Galen Winsor) is the catalyst to extract hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen from it as our lungs and fish gills do from the water vapour we breathe.