lol honestly i was just having a moment regarding my natural speech patterns (lisps) and how i feel lucky to have found a way to feel better about it while finding my identity
@VTSifuSteve Yes I thought the same thing on some Mexican friends of mine that had what we thought was A Lisp I imagine now it was probably a inherited Native trait we never know and yes I'm Mexican-American also Jaha never judge cuz they are probably the true G's...
It’s super common in a lot of North American indigenous languages, I’ve heard it in many different tribes and regions. Being indigenous has definitely helped me pronounce many different words which use similar sounds from the sides and back of the mouth 🙏🏼
Great lesson. People have told me that the "tl" was nearly impossible to say. And since it took me over 10 years just to learn to make a good, rolled Spanish "rr", I never even tried the Nahuatl "tl". Why bother I thought. Heck I even had a sort of lisp in English when I was little. Guess what I found out? I've just been making the Nahatl "tl" since I was a baby!!! Now I can have some fun saying all those Nahatl words we have adopted in English and Spanish, like coyotl, olotl, peyotl, sopilotl, guajolotl, hisotl, tecolotl, tomatl, camotl and a whole bunch more that I don't even know about yet! Now back to re-watching Diablero.
This is without a doubt the best explanation for this consonant. I have also read that you pronounce it like a snake hissing. Thank you for these lessons. Tlazocamati huel miec!
We have the l part of tl in Welsh as ll, and when you say English speakers hear it as a k sound, that's so relatable! Ll is a very common letter in Welsh placenames, as it's part of "llan" (meaning like, church/parish, so very common) and many English speakers just hear cl and make no effort to say ll, or in your case, tl :) I also use the lisp method to explain the sound as well! Since Ice Age was huge, and everyone knows Sid the Sloth, I say it's like Sid saying his s's (Llid the Llloth!)
That is how I would think to explain it. With Sid the Sloth. Is Levelland a Welsh name? I may be mistaking it for another word, it's the name of a town in Western Texas.
@@genshiyami nope, levelland is English. From Wikipedia's history section, it appears to be named after its topography (I'm guessing it's quite flat in the area!). I don't think Welsh settlers got that far inland. There are a lot of Welsh names (some actually Welsh, some named after anglicised Welsh placenames) in Pennsylvania, specifically in the historic quaker part of the philadelphia. It's on my bucket list one day to take the train from philly out towards Bryn Mawr and Narberth and see the placenames, like a big nerd on a reverse pilgrimage.
Thank you for this new learning senor, I'm from Philippines, we wanted to learn how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl and other Aztec-related terms properly due to history class.
"Tl" is also there in my native Setswana language spoken in South Africa, Botswana & parts of Namibia. So too in Sesotho & Sepedi, 2 mutually intelligible languages in Southern Africa. We just don't have it in suffix form.
@@fallinginthed33p I appreciate your response but I don't really get the part where you mention breathing out because I can pronounce/produce this sound without breathing, in fact very effortlessly. If you want a clear example of how to pronounce the "Tl" sound in Setswana, pay attention to this RUclips clip of the late Ngwao Ya Tšhona aka Phadima, a South African Born Motswana (singular for ethnic Tswana speaker) in this clip. Pay close attention to the 1st minute of this clip. Also pay attention to the" Kg" sound. You may have heard of the "Kalahari" desert, the actual native name is "Kgalagadi" meaning place of thirst, you'll get an idea of the different peculiar Sounds that distinguish Setswana from other "Bantu" languages. ruclips.net/video/91lJsHLqrWo/видео.html
@trichomebeast No its not silent. Some modern nahuatl speakers have started to drop the tl sound. But it was very much present in the classical nahuatl spoken by the Mexica in the 16th century
I got the tl sound right away (though I knew the IPA, which mightve been an advantage). It was the syllable-final glottal stop (in classical nahuatl) I found hardest.
That was really cool and helpful. It helped a lot taking it one sound at a time. As a spanish speaker, I always hear "te" or just "t" when people who just speak spanish try to pronounce the Nahuatl words.
I have been fascinated and interested in learning the culture of present day Nahuatl speakers, I still think the language is so far a favorite, I also want to learn some of the rituals and other parts for the death whistle, and I was able to get the tl sound by the end of the video, I will make sure I constantly go back to this video to help myself practice. I am excited to be learning more about this wonderful language😅
This helps so much since I’m trying to learn Nahuatl for my grandma she was raised in a village that only spoke that but she forgot a lot and I’m planning to go with her to get village sooner or later before Yk she passes but she’s gonna live for a decade or two at least I believe so I got time
Has a friend who took speech classes in mid school cz he had that slushy S. ("Slushy" is the perfect description, right on the nose.) The tl is a breeze for me now, all I have to do is imitate him, lol. Thank you for posting. :)
Thank you so much for making this video! I've been waiting for someone to create videos on the Nahuatl language for years. I'm a video editor and if you need any help with videos I would be ecstatic to help.
Thank you, this video was very helpful! Reading the comments section has been really fascinating, too, seeing the Nahuatl "tl" compared to sounds in other languages across the globe. I only speak English and French, so we don't really have a sound like this. The part I struggle with most is definitely making "atl" one syllable instead of two.
Yak’éi Tlingit áyá, yaat’áa TL-ingit chá shoogoo TL in Tlingit as your folks NahuaTL. The TL sound at the beginning of Tlingit, is the same sound as at the end of NahuaTL. Ours folks describe as a voiceless L, pronunciation of the TL I tell people put the tip of your tongue against the back of your teeth, and blow out air and it comes out the sides of your tongue making a good TLingit or if I’m saying it like you. I think so, sounds the same 🤙🏽 good stuff Gunalchéesh 🙌🏽
@@thenahuatlchannel3896 I haven’t yet got to watch more of your channel but is there a good starting resource you could recommend as somewhere to start practicing the writing? I def. Wanna listen to your channel more and pick up the language. 🙌🏽 I wonder if at all your ancestors had any kind of history of contact with my people from SE AK? We had large sea going dugouts. The Haida just south of us had the same and better but I just don’t know where to look about other people and my people having anything documented. I know the boogie man that screwed us all over destroyed as much as they could but I have hope it’s at least been documented somewhere and worth looking. Gunalchéesh káaní 🙌🏽🙅🏽✌🏽
Practice with a mirror and dont be afraid to try to experiment weird or unusual tongue movements, almost being silly, try to listen to spoken nahuatl to hear it n dont worry if u dont get it, substitute it for a t
Can you please make a video on the correct pronunciation of cuetlaxochitl? There are a number of videos floating around that I'm pretty sure are teaching people the wrong pronunciation -- for instance, confidently saying that xo is pronounced like kso.
I speak salvadoran Spanish and it is very easy to make this sound if you already speak Spanish. I don’t even know how else you would pronounce tl jajaja
Question: Do you pronounce the TL with the same sound and pronunciation when the TL is in the middle of a word? For example "Mictlan"... I'm learing a lot from you! Piyali from Europe!
Thank you! This was very helpful. But I have a problem -- I have a missing back molar, which means there's more space on that side of my tongue, so I get a kind of a rattling sound coming from that side. Am I just trying to do it wrong, or is this a problem that native Nahuatl speakers might also have if they're missing teeth?
They would prob have the same problem, but u may be able to compensate by covering with your tongue a portion of it, also remember its meant to sound like a lispy sound anyway so a slight distortion shouod be no problem, email me at 1tecuexe@gmail.com if youd want to send audio clip and i can give feedback
For whatever reason, my dogs thought that the Bluetooth speaker had a rattlesnake in it when you were doing the pronunciation. Then they thought I had a rattlesnake in my mouth when I was trying to practice 😂😂😂
One thing to keep in mind, nearly all the people who spoke Nahuatl practiced bloodletting as sacrifice. This was practiced in many ways and on many parts of the body, including the tongue. The maguey needle was used to pierce the tongue and when it passed through with no blood, they got a bigger needle. The tongues of the elite and those closest to the tlatoani would be gauged and swollen. Those learning the language from immersion would be replicating people who had a large, gauged, and probably numb tongue which was causing an impediment. If you can imagine this, then the 'TL' is more of a fat-tongue sound rather than a sharp click (ck/k).
I was trying to choose a Nahuatl name for a character I'm making, and I found one I like, but it has the dreaded tl sound. Thanks for the lesson; hopefully it can help me butcher it less. 🙂 (It was Yecapaxihuitl btw)
I stumbled onto this topic for the same reason, trying to make a mesoamerican-inspired TTRPG character. A lot of sources online will hispanicize the pronunciation of these names, so this video was really helpful to set me straight. That said, I don't think I want to force my fellow game members to pronounce Axochitl, so I am back at square one. 😅 (But now I have a newfound interest in Nahuatl.)
*flashback to all my speech therapy teachers trying to fix what I had as a natural "tl" sound* It's time to end some careers....... (retroactively)
success yet?
Yeah, same experience. What I was told was a defect when I was a pre-schooler was actually a gift. Took me over 60 years to find that out!
lol honestly i was just having a moment regarding my natural speech patterns (lisps) and how i feel lucky to have found a way to feel better about it while finding my identity
@VTSifuSteve Yes I thought the same thing on some Mexican friends of mine that had what we thought was A Lisp I imagine now it was probably a inherited Native trait we never know and yes I'm Mexican-American also Jaha never judge cuz they are probably the true G's...
Same all this time, they were telling me I'm talking wrong--- NO! 😢 Our body remembers our native language but we don't remember! 😭
Fun fact this sound also exists in Navajo, Welsh, Icelandic and Faroese
It’s super common in a lot of North American indigenous languages, I’ve heard it in many different tribes and regions. Being indigenous has definitely helped me pronounce many different words which use similar sounds from the sides and back of the mouth 🙏🏼
LLanfair also, indeed
It exists in a lot of pagan languages stop bragging
@@aria.jahelanishani.aviram i didn’t know that
...and Xhosa, South Africa
Great lesson. People have told me that the "tl" was nearly impossible to say. And since it took me over 10 years just to learn to make a good, rolled Spanish "rr", I never even tried the Nahuatl "tl". Why bother I thought. Heck I even had a sort of lisp in English when I was little. Guess what I found out? I've just been making the Nahatl "tl" since I was a baby!!! Now I can have some fun saying all those Nahatl words we have adopted in English and Spanish, like coyotl, olotl, peyotl, sopilotl, guajolotl, hisotl, tecolotl, tomatl, camotl and a whole bunch more that I don't even know about yet! Now back to re-watching Diablero.
This is without a doubt the best explanation for this consonant. I have also read that you pronounce it like a snake hissing. Thank you for these lessons. Tlazocamati huel miec!
We have the l part of tl in Welsh as ll, and when you say English speakers hear it as a k sound, that's so relatable! Ll is a very common letter in Welsh placenames, as it's part of "llan" (meaning like, church/parish, so very common) and many English speakers just hear cl and make no effort to say ll, or in your case, tl :) I also use the lisp method to explain the sound as well! Since Ice Age was huge, and everyone knows Sid the Sloth, I say it's like Sid saying his s's (Llid the Llloth!)
Llanfair PG is like, 20 minutes away from me.
That is how I would think to explain it. With Sid the Sloth.
Is Levelland a Welsh name? I may be mistaking it for another word, it's the name of a town in Western Texas.
@@genshiyami nope, levelland is English. From Wikipedia's history section, it appears to be named after its topography (I'm guessing it's quite flat in the area!). I don't think Welsh settlers got that far inland. There are a lot of Welsh names (some actually Welsh, some named after anglicised Welsh placenames) in Pennsylvania, specifically in the historic quaker part of the philadelphia. It's on my bucket list one day to take the train from philly out towards Bryn Mawr and Narberth and see the placenames, like a big nerd on a reverse pilgrimage.
Thank you. The first prononciation guide that doesn't drown out the prononciation with "interesting" background music.
Thank you for this new learning senor, I'm from Philippines, we wanted to learn how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl and other Aztec-related terms properly due to history class.
🙂You're learn Mexican/Aztec history in the Philippines?
@@genshiyami world history class
Thank you! I learned it in only 6 minutes!
"Tl" is also there in my native Setswana language spoken in South Africa, Botswana & parts of Namibia. So too in Sesotho & Sepedi, 2 mutually intelligible languages in Southern Africa.
We just don't have it in suffix form.
The ending -tl seems to have a similar position for the tip of the tongue as some clicks but it's breathed out.
@@fallinginthed33p I appreciate your response but I don't really get the part where you mention breathing out because I can pronounce/produce this sound without breathing, in fact very effortlessly.
If you want a clear example of how to pronounce the "Tl" sound in Setswana, pay attention to this RUclips clip of the late Ngwao Ya Tšhona aka Phadima, a South African Born Motswana (singular for ethnic Tswana speaker) in this clip. Pay close attention to the 1st minute of this clip.
Also pay attention to the" Kg" sound. You may have heard of the "Kalahari" desert, the actual native name is "Kgalagadi" meaning place of thirst, you'll get an idea of the different peculiar Sounds that distinguish Setswana from other "Bantu" languages.
ruclips.net/video/91lJsHLqrWo/видео.html
You are an amazing educator!!! 😍😍😍
The "tl" sound was kind of tricky at first but hearing it repeated in the videos definitely helped.
Still learning how to roll my r's though haha
The ending -tl for me sounds like t-(h), so the soft (h) still sounds like a short yet separate syllable.
Damn, that "tl" sound has some similarities to the "ll" sound in Welsh. A lot of people mistake that for making a c sound too, like you've said here
makes sense!
As a Welshman, I can confirm that this is correct!
T. L is silent in nahuatl pronounced nahua
@@trichomebeast1130 No?????
@trichomebeast No its not silent. Some modern nahuatl speakers have started to drop the tl sound. But it was very much present in the classical nahuatl spoken by the Mexica in the 16th century
We have this sound in Welsh, spelt as LL, and I got this TL sound before i started the video, and your pronunciation confirmed it for me.
@Bee Sixteen so just how the guy in the video described, it can vary from area to area and some will have the Welsh slush sound as is
You're a fantastic instructor!
Fantastic video, explaining what I wondered for many years.👍
I got the tl sound right away (though I knew the IPA, which mightve been an advantage). It was the syllable-final glottal stop (in classical nahuatl) I found hardest.
Holy crap I make that sound all the time just absent-mindedly, I had no idea I was so close. Thank you!
That was really cool and helpful. It helped a lot taking it one sound at a time. As a spanish speaker, I always hear "te" or just "t" when people who just speak spanish try to pronounce the Nahuatl words.
I have been fascinated and interested in learning the culture of present day Nahuatl speakers, I still think the language is so far a favorite, I also want to learn some of the rituals and other parts for the death whistle, and I was able to get the tl sound by the end of the video, I will make sure I constantly go back to this video to help myself practice. I am excited to be learning more about this wonderful language😅
This helps so much since I’m trying to learn Nahuatl for my grandma she was raised in a village that only spoke that but she forgot a lot and I’m planning to go with her to get village sooner or later before Yk she passes but she’s gonna live for a decade or two at least I believe so I got time
This is a fantastic video! Was able to get the sounds almost immediately as I practiced along :)
Thanks!. In my Classical Nahuatl classes the ending -tl was described as a "voiceless L"
Thank you for this tutorial and for your kindness
Has a friend who took speech classes in mid school cz he had that slushy S. ("Slushy" is the perfect description, right on the nose.) The tl is a breeze for me now, all I have to do is imitate him, lol. Thank you for posting. :)
This was VERY helpful. Thank you
Glad I found your Chanel
Thank you so much for making this video! I've been waiting for someone to create videos on the Nahuatl language for years. I'm a video editor and if you need any help with videos I would be ecstatic to help.
Thank you for this! I was clicking all over my mouth wondering which was right!
Pays off how I always quoted “Oh my gosh! Nemo’s swimming out to sea!”
perfect, got it in the first few minutes, thanks a lot
My tongue literally hurts now from me trying to contort it different ways. I gotta keep practicing.
This was fantastic and extremely helpful! I think I'm starting to get it right!
Thank you, this video was very helpful! Reading the comments section has been really fascinating, too, seeing the Nahuatl "tl" compared to sounds in other languages across the globe. I only speak English and French, so we don't really have a sound like this.
The part I struggle with most is definitely making "atl" one syllable instead of two.
you say "att" (rhymes with "pot") followed by the slushy tl sound
Thanks for your help man
Thanks so much for this!
Thank you! ❤
Great video
Gracias. Very helpful.
Man, For Honor's really got me going down a rabbit hole with this, huh.
Yak’éi Tlingit áyá, yaat’áa TL-ingit chá shoogoo TL in Tlingit as your folks NahuaTL. The TL sound at the beginning of Tlingit, is the same sound as at the end of NahuaTL. Ours folks describe as a voiceless L, pronunciation of the TL I tell people put the tip of your tongue against the back of your teeth, and blow out air and it comes out the sides of your tongue making a good TLingit or if I’m saying it like you. I think so, sounds the same 🤙🏽 good stuff Gunalchéesh 🙌🏽
I send thanks n greetings to u brother, way out where u may be!
@@thenahuatlchannel3896 I haven’t yet got to watch more of your channel but is there a good starting resource you could recommend as somewhere to start practicing the writing? I def. Wanna listen to your channel more and pick up the language. 🙌🏽 I wonder if at all your ancestors had any kind of history of contact with my people from SE AK? We had large sea going dugouts. The Haida just south of us had the same and better but I just don’t know where to look about other people and my people having anything documented. I know the boogie man that screwed us all over destroyed as much as they could but I have hope it’s at least been documented somewhere and worth looking. Gunalchéesh káaní 🙌🏽🙅🏽✌🏽
I taught myself this sound when I first heard about Nahuatl
Do you have any tips on making the "Slushy L"? For some reason I can't get it
Practice with a mirror and dont be afraid to try to experiment weird or unusual tongue movements, almost being silly, try to listen to spoken nahuatl to hear it n dont worry if u dont get it, substitute it for a t
Try the “kl” sound like cl-op or cl-ay
Flatten tongue a little more and push the air out the sides of your palate
(Linguistics student)
Thank you so much!
What does Tlitl mean?
Fire
I didn’t struggle with this sound. I wonder if it’s because Mexican Spanish is my first language and we use a lot of Nahuatl words
Can you please make a video on the correct pronunciation of cuetlaxochitl? There are a number of videos floating around that I'm pretty sure are teaching people the wrong pronunciation -- for instance, confidently saying that xo is pronounced like kso.
So... I ended up making my own. :-P
ruclips.net/video/7GKkTwvzn2k/видео.html
Where is the art in the thumbnail from?
Art i paid an artist to make :)
I speak salvadoran Spanish and it is very easy to make this sound if you already speak Spanish. I don’t even know how else you would pronounce tl jajaja
My sons last name is Cuatlatoa can you help me to pronounce it the right way
awesome! kwa-tla-TO-a ,
4:21 Dude taught us how to die as a minecraft silverfish.
Question: Do you pronounce the TL with the same sound and pronunciation when the TL is in the middle of a word? For
example "Mictlan"... I'm learing a lot from you! Piyali from Europe!
Yes but u dont notice it as much as when its at the end of a word
Me watching this so I can pronounce Magic the Gathering cards correctly
My geography teachers always pronounced it as “tul” instead of the proper affricate
Thank you! This was very helpful. But I have a problem -- I have a missing back molar, which means there's more space on that side of my tongue, so I get a kind of a rattling sound coming from that side. Am I just trying to do it wrong, or is this a problem that native Nahuatl speakers might also have if they're missing teeth?
They would prob have the same problem, but u may be able to compensate by covering with your tongue a portion of it, also remember its meant to sound like a lispy sound anyway so a slight distortion shouod be no problem, email me at 1tecuexe@gmail.com if youd want to send audio clip and i can give feedback
For whatever reason, my dogs thought that the Bluetooth speaker had a rattlesnake in it when you were doing the pronunciation. Then they thought I had a rattlesnake in my mouth when I was trying to practice 😂😂😂
How would you say home in Nahuatl is it Chantli????
Typically say my home, not just home
Nochan
@@thenahuatlchannel3896 ohhh wow google was way off lol 😅😅😅 so is chantli even a real word or does it mean something totally different???
Nice
One thing to keep in mind, nearly all the people who spoke Nahuatl practiced bloodletting as sacrifice. This was practiced in many ways and on many parts of the body, including the tongue. The maguey needle was used to pierce the tongue and when it passed through with no blood, they got a bigger needle. The tongues of the elite and those closest to the tlatoani would be gauged and swollen. Those learning the language from immersion would be replicating people who had a large, gauged, and probably numb tongue which was causing an impediment. If you can imagine this, then the 'TL' is more of a fat-tongue sound rather than a sharp click (ck/k).
Does the language have this sound in contexts where it DOESN'T follow t-?
no, tl only exists together
I was trying to choose a Nahuatl name for a character I'm making, and I found one I like, but it has the dreaded tl sound. Thanks for the lesson; hopefully it can help me butcher it less. 🙂
(It was Yecapaxihuitl btw)
You can always fall back on pronouncing it as just a T lol
I stumbled onto this topic for the same reason, trying to make a mesoamerican-inspired TTRPG character. A lot of sources online will hispanicize the pronunciation of these names, so this video was really helpful to set me straight.
That said, I don't think I want to force my fellow game members to pronounce Axochitl, so I am back at square one. 😅 (But now I have a newfound interest in Nahuatl.)
estoy feliz para el video
I pronounce it like a click. I’m also German
LETS GO! press your tongue to the roof of your mouth and blow air through it. It’s easy for me to say it.
Here is an easy way to say -tl..... Say -tuhl...just don't activate your vocal cords after the t....
Who else is here looking up how to pronounce her name after pulling her in FGO?
3:08 bro even hispanics say it like that
Some not all
It’s not “Hispanic” anyway
i can do the sound in 5 minutes
Just screwing up the language
appreciate u 4 da tutorial.
i got it w/ "nahuatl" now im working on "huizilopotchli". would appreciate sum guidance 4 dat
Wi-tsi-lo-póch-tli, just dont say hwi-tsi-lo-póch-tli