Real Owner's Review: Long-Term Driving Impressions of the 2023 Nissan Frontier
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024
- In this video, I'm taking you along for a ride in my new 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X to talk you through some of the improvements they've made over the old trucks and why it's a great entry into the mid-size truck category today!
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The engine alone makes this the best mid size truck.
Agreed!
I have just bought a 2023 Frontier Pro4x same color as yours with cloth, Fender Stereo and step rails. I too, have had a 2nd generation Frontiers and Xterra. They all were reliable for me. One amazing thing is I never needed an an alignment on any frontier or xterra, even after 225K miles. Frontier is I believe the only one sticking with a 6 cyl, without a turbo. Scotty Kilmer loves this truck.
I'm over 10K miles now and have been through the Wyoming BDR, WI national forests, and the UP of Michigan and it's done great through all that and been super comfy the whole time. Still loving it. Congrats on your truck!
What did you pay OTD
@@timsmith8391 if you’re talking to me, mine had everything except the leather/sunroof (including step rails, premium audio, etc.) and I paid right around $46k.
Honda Ridgeline also had a V-6.
@@CoinHound, so does the jeep gladiator. Both of those are kind of niche vehicles though
I drive a 2020 Tacoma TRD PRO. If I was buying a truck today it would be the Nissan hands down. I'll never buy new Tacoma again. Everything that made a Tacoma a Tacoma is gone.
That's sad but I've heard it a few times from folks with those trucks. The Nissan isn't perfect, but I think it's a great option.
My two Fourth gen were terrible. Thought the first was a lemon so we traded it after a couple years. Second was infinitely worse. Entire fuel system went at 1500 miles as went south from there.
@@QCJSiteB the toyota or the nissan?
I was wondering the same thing, its not so much that the other companies have improved so much, but more like toyota has started to lose the plot on the newer vehicles?
The new 2024 Tacoma look really good with the new engine.
These frontiers are the last real honest truck, and that’s why I love mine.
Totally agree with you. They're changing, but this is one time where Nissan being a bit behind the times has helped them, :D.
Have had mine for five months and like everything about it. The 10th four wheel drive truck I have had over the years and it is my favorite.
Congrats!
I've had Nissan trucks for years and never been disappointed. My 2023 Pro X is very good. I only wish they still offered a manual shift in any trim level. All the truck makers have forgotten the men who like a manual shift.
Agreed on that.
I own a 22 pro-x and absolutely love it.
Awesome, congrats on the truck!
The double planed windows along with some added insulation helps keep the cabin noise down it is a a very solid built midsize truck upgrading to nismo light weight heavy duty wheels & Bilstein designed upgraded adjustable nismo shocks with the resivoirs available at the dealership really increases already very good drive quality definitely worth it especially on a pro 4 x
Great points. People knock the 3rd gen for being similar to the 2nd gen, but the improvements they made, made a big difference and I actually like that they're similar because then the powertrain and motor are more proven, versus being completely new.
Just bought my third new Nissan truck since 2014, all Frontiers, a few days ago. Bought the loaded PRO-4X in Cardinal Red and I LOVE IT!!!
This is the hottest, toughest, meanest looking Frontier I've ever seen. It literally turns heads everywhere I go.
Can't wait to test the off-road capabilities once the engine is properly broken in.
Love it and I really wanted that color too, but couldn't find any near me. The Boulder Grey is growing on me though and overall, I'm still loving the truck. Congrats on yours!
I just got a standard 2024 frontier in that same color and I love it dude
Nice truck. But since my kids are grown, I would opt for the loaded SV king cab with a 6 foot bed instead of the shorty 5 foot.
Thanks! And get it, 😀. Great trucks.
Drove my 2022 on a 5000+ mile road trip, pulling a lightweight travel trailer (under 2500 lbs). My fuel mileage dropped drastically to about 12.5 MPG using the Tow Mode. Used a weight distribution hitch. The back of the truck is really bouncy without the weight distribution bars. The bars acted like a dampener and took out a lot of the bounciness. Making the ride smoother and the truck easier to handle. It handled mountain passes like a dream. No problem pulling the trailer up, or controlling the speed going down. My average RPM in Tow Mode was around 2200 to 2500 RPM. There was one time I was bucking a head winded, and the RPMs increased to 3500 to 4500 RPMs. Still handled it like a champ. In Tow Mode, the acceleration was beautiful, I had no problems getting up to speed pulling the trailer. In a few months, I'll take down to southern Utah and Northern Arizona. Looking forward to that trip.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. I've towed a Subaru Legacy on a 15 foot trailer but I only towed it about an hour away for a friend. The truck did great with it and tow mode did make a huge difference.
Looks like towmode is a gas eater i expect the tranny to not get near 3k rpm unless ur rig is way over 3500lb
@@juliosdiy3206 I was also bucking a headwind when the RPMs were that high.
One thing to add about the heated steering wheel and heated seats... If it is below 32 F the truck will automatically turn on the the heated functions when remote starting! low this in cold weather!
Can’t wait to try mine out this winter!
You may want to check the real actual MPG after filling up your gas tank.
My 22 Frontier always registers 2.5 MPG more then it should. I always reset my trip odometer and when fill up gas I check the MPG.
Display shows 23 mpg, reality is 20mpg.
Yeah, I’ll definitely check that out. Getting ready to go on a 4500 mile trip over two weeks with a lot of highway and off-roading so it’ll be interesting to see what I average.
Yep, it is high but I have done the math on some long mileage travels and gotten a high of 23.85 mpg doing the math! My 2nd gen would have just tucked it's tail and ran from those #'s! The absolute best thing is the range to empty is very accurate though. I was running a gap between exits coming through TN and had a stretch that was 26 miles to next exit with fuel. Low fuel light was on and once I dropped from low to dashes it last gave 47 miles to empty. I then drove around 7 miles to gas station and fueled. pump shut off at 19.1 gallons. The tank is a 21.1 empty displacement so that left 2 gallons to empty. So an avg of 20 mpg that checks out. I was able to get 405 miles out of that tank with 105 range to empty once. It depends on terrain, driving speed and load on chassis. I have put 16k miles on my 2023 Pro-4X since March so a lot of re-fueling and mileage data. All I can say is it is much improved over the old unit!
@@razor4432 yeah, it’s definitely way better than the second gens. I actually did some testing on my way to Wyoming and I was showing about 19.25 in Iowa through some hilly sections. Later in the trip, I was seeing about 21ish average so while the gauge may be a mile or two per gallon optimistic, it’s not terrible and way better than the old trucks for sure!
yup at least 2MPG for me. on my cross county trip it said it averaged over 23, but never hit 22. at any point. it may get 23, but hard to keep foot out of it when speed limit is 70/75/80.
I knew I was buying a poor MPG vehicle, so not too disappointed with mpg.
Truth, mine is the same.
I just bought a 2024 pro4x red alert, leather and sun roof. I love it ! 🙂
That's the color I originally wanted! Congrats!
@@AllThingsOverlandingMan I love my pro4x and it's very fast and sounds great 🙂
@@clintperry799 Love mine too! They’re great trucks.
Nissan trucks have always been great
Agree!
I've owned five. '98, '99, 2001, 2015, and now my '23 Pro4X. Damn good trucks.
Love to hear it!
Better pricing than tacomas.
They're so great yet you had 5. Must be junk to have so many in a short period.
@@CB.5 The fact I have had five had no impact on reliability. I like keeping a new truck. Have a blessed day.
I've owned 2 Pro-4X and Nissan beats Toyota with a double-wall box, better seating position, and lower price!
2023 with 4500 on the meter I love it. Just a good old truck with just the right amount of tech. I like the heavy feel of the steering wheel my other car is elect steering I can't feel the road.
Agreed. Congrats on your truck!
Don't forget you used to be able to get both the 4.0 litre and the 2.5 litre engine with manual transmission. Miss that!
Yeah, good point. I've never driven the 2.5 ever. Pretty much everything I see is a 4.0.
Been driving an ‘08 Xterra for 10 years. This will be by next vehicle.
Nice! X's are great. I miss mine a bit, but I do love the new truck.
Me too. I had an 06' Xterra for 6 years. now have the 23' pro4x. love it.
I own a 2022 pro 4x, drive 1000 km every week for work and get 10.9/100km. Very comfortable, lots of power and turns heads. First Canadian winter with it so excited for that. Good job by Nissan.
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
I have an 07 FJ with 230k miles. It’s still going strong but I need a small pickup because it’ll be easier with my job on the road, I’ve been looking at the frontier because it’s the only new modern truck that takes the simple approach and I actually like that
Me too. I think it's a good one.
I have a 2023 Pro 4X. I agree with all points. I did have a 2019 Tacoma and this Frontier is so much better. More power, more safety features, more comfort, quieter, and better MPG. I drove from Douglas, WY to Amarillo, Tx in about 12 hours pulling a small camper. I've driven it over the extremely rough terrain of Monument Valley. Yes it rode like a truck but was still comfy. I used the 360 camera in Valley of the Gods so I could see where the road went as I got to the top of the rise where the hood blocks your view. Did great in the high elevation of YNP. I'm totally pleased with this truck. Thanks for the review. Now I'll go watch your other reviews on it.
Nice! Sounds like you've put it through it's paces! I took mine to the WY BDR last July and it was great. Had a ton of fun and it performed flawlessly and got about 19-20 average MPG.
Came from 2017 Tacoma TRD pro to 2023 Frontier Pro4x. Massive improvement, only thing I miss is the electric rear window that was in the Tacoma. Which is not a big deal at all. Love the Frontier and have had no issues. Frontier is more comfortable. Yes it is a truck, and that is what I want. 18500 so far. Taken on both road trips and city driving.
Nice! Yeah, a lot of people do talk about no power rear window which would be awesome, but Nissan definitely skimps on stuff like that typically.
Just got my 2023 frontier pro4x last Saturday.
Congrats!
Make another video what you went through when it hit 200k
Haha, will do. I have a 2008 Frontier with 218k miles on it so this is my second frontier.
I used to have a 19 crew cab long bed SV. I'm currently looking at a 24 pro 4X.
They made a lot of nice upgrades to the D41!
I got the Pro 4X fully loaded nice midsize truck
Congrats!
Thanks, brother. Here's hoping you find the one you're looking for, the one that makes your heart beat a little faster every time you climb behind that wheel. This is my third Frontier, and while I've shopped around comparing Tacomas, Colorados, Canyons, and even Gladiators as potential replacements when I'm ready to buy again, I always wind up buying a Nissan.
Call me crazy, but I don't think there is a better midsized truck on the market, at any price.
Good luck and keep posting those videos, bro.
Appreciate it and I find it tough to beat the Frontier for the price when looking at competitors for sure.
I would really like to see a long term or high mileage review of this newer Frontier but still haven't seen anyone who has driven it over 100K.
That would be a lot of miles in just a couple of years, but I bet there are some people who have done it. I've got 15K on mine now (probably about 3-4K offroad) and no problems.
@AllThingsOverlanding mainly concerned about the DI only engine over long term. That engine is in the 2020 model so you'd think someone would be close and could do a review.
@@dalephillips8250 true
I bought my 2019 Frontier SV brand new four years ago, and have babied it all this time. Now, I've got a funny noise coming from the rear axle. Might be the differential. I'm really bummed out.
Have it checked because the good thing is that parts for 2nd gens are plentiful so hopefully it won't cost much to get it good as new.
Thanks for your review. It's nice to have a real owner's review. The information was is very helpful
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
You should do a video about the real actual MPG on your frontier truck.
So, I have about 2500 miles on the truck total right now and I’ve done the math on gallons in versus miles and it is working out to about 19 or 20 miles per gallon so far. But, as I put more miles on it I will definitely be checking it and confirming how close that is because I’ve heard a lot of folks say that they’re Mpg reflected in the truck is not accurate.
I'm looking to purchase the 2024, so thanks for the input. Appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful! 15K on mine and still loving it.
Nissan may not be class leading in all respects. But for me, Nissan seats are class leading. Overall, the 2024 Frontier does everything very well, and is a truck for those who know and appreciate real trucks. This truck can haul/tow day in and day out, without issues. On long trips, driver fatigue is far less than that from other brands. A turbo 4cyl may be good as a grocery getter, but not for daily tow/haul. The only negative for me is the lack of a brake controller: hope Nissan includes this for 2025 onwards.
Well said!
Do they have a plug for the brake controller tho? If they do have a recpitcale under dash, you can add one yourself very easily
Nissan Frontier is my favorite
Nice, great underrated trucks.
Will they ever get an automatic rear window? One of my big hold-ups. The truck comes with everything else.
Ha, I don't know. Doubt it I guess. It would be way nicer, but I just don't use mine as a result. Not a deal breaker by any means for me, but it would be nice to open it up with a switch.
I love my 23 Frontier S model King Cab.😍
Nice truck!
19mpg I see that has not change . Theses are great trucks
Nope, pretty similar to the later 2nd gens.
2007 frontier with 300,000 miles. 2015 frontier with 140,000 miles. No major issues on either. Next truck will be a Frontier again
I've got a 2nd gen with 218K that still runs fine and then this new truck and I have confidence it'll last for 10+ years with no major problems.
I had a 76 Dodge M880, Chevy Colorado Diesel, 98 Nissan, 99 Chev S10 - Off all the trucks the 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4X is in a class of its own. It does not feel like of my current trucks which just sit now, the 18 Colorado Diesel, 99 Chev S10 LS.
Nissan's 2023 Frontier rides too smooth - it is closer in feel to a car or SUV - the ride is soft. It is so comfortable for this old broken down paratrooper with a spinal fusion. Now don't get me wrong, I love my Colarado Z71 off road, but it rides like a truck. The S10 is small and that is nice for quick trips around town or hauling stuff that will never touch my Nissan.
Love to hear this! I really do love mine and think they're way underrated.
You live in a beautiful part of the country there! Nice review!
Thanks!
Thinking about trading my 2022 Jeep Wrangler 2dr for the Nissan ProX. Having a kid so I need a 4 door. Thank you for the video. Gonna test drive one today
Enjoy it! They are really great trucks and for the money they’re extremely reliable too.
Thoughts about rear seats. Sone criticizing the rear seatbacks for being vertical without an angle.
It’s a good question. I’ve had my kids in them for 3-4 hour drives and no complaints from them. They are smaller because it’s a midsize truck but I kind of feel like people just look for things to complain about about. If you’re going to be hauling around five adults all the time and your main goal is comfort than a midsize truck probably isn’t the best option.
Good video. I've been originally looking at the Ford Maverick but after doing research I'm finding too many complaints and issues with it. Now I'm looking at the Toyota Tacoma and Nissan Frontier
Yeah, I had a Maverick on order, but after a year of waiting (and reading stories of folks in Facebook groups blowing motors and having electrical issues) I decided to cancel that order. I've been loving my new Frontier. Good luck with whatever you end up with!
I got mine in November 2022. My first Nissan Truck I got the LWB 4x4 SV. So far just added a Leer 100XR topper to camp in. The only complaint so far has to due with the cruise control. When you go up a grade on interstate it will violently shift down and kick in at 5000 rpm just to get back up to speed. I think that is excessive.
Agreed.
I really want a LWB but it's too poorly equipped for the price. They don't even give you LED headlights for over $40k, it's downright insulting. I heard in another owner review that there's a software update in the works to deal with the aggressive cruise control, but I can't find any info to verify that.
@@dlg5485 I need to get mine in for service soon. I might inquire about the Cruise Control Problem. I really like my truck. I use it for truck camping when I go out on photography trips.
@@dlg5485 I’ve heard the same about the update. And I went pro-4x because it didn’t make financial sense to me to go down to an SV for that exact reason.
@@AllThingsOverlanding Yeah, I'm probably going to factory order a Pro4x so I don't have to buy all the useless accessories they typically load them up with. At least I can save some money that way. Still would rather have a long bed tho.
Hey jmb-cm7mr,
You're correct, my friend, I misspoke.
I meant to say Toyota began phasing out the V6's in the Tacoma a couple years ago with the 2023 model the last year of production. My bad for trying to jam all my thoughts into that little box.😄
Good catch, brother.
Thumbs up.
4:55 yeah the pilots are super quiet until 5,000 rpm when V-tec kicks in. Unless it’s a 23 and it doesn’t have Vtec.
We love ours.
I only have 2 complaints with my 2024 Pro-4x. Interior lighting just sucks something horrible. I added some white led lighting on the flooring to help with this. Also, no underhood light either. Installed a led under the hood as well. I do wish it was a couple inches higher from the manufacturer since it's technically an offroad vehicle. The standard models should be this height.
Interior lighting on most videos is pretty terrible, but you're right that it's bad in this truck. I don't think I've owned a car in the last 25 years that I didn't upgrade the interior lights with LED replacements in, :D. The underhood light would be nice but again, most vehicles don't come with that. Easy upgrade though as you mentioned! Then I'd love if Nissan would put a little more emphasis on the offroad capability of the truck instead of making it an options package with a locker basically. But, there are some easy inexpensive mods to solve that, so I've always thought, versus spending $10K more on a Tacoma with a bit more ground clearance, for about $1500 I can do a small lift and 33" tires and be pretty close for a fraction of the price.
I have a 2021 Ram Tradesman 4x4 with the 3.6 Pentastar. I get around 21 mpg. Full size. MPG should be better for these smaller trucks.
Sure, we all want better gas mileage, but I'll take 18-20 from an NA V6 that's reliable and torquey.
they have always been about the same.. I mean look at Ford F150 with the 2.7 gets 24MPG.. thats not shabby but.. I dont need a full size truck either....
I currently own a 2015 Frontier Crew Cab (4.0 V6), with 75k. Its a great little truck, to include i have had zero problems with it, with exception of changing out my battery.
The only issue I DON'T LIKE with the 2015 truck is it has absolutely NO turning ratio! Better off in the Flintstone car...next truck will be a Toyota Tundra Platinum.
Yeah, I hear that a lot. I just drive around it and it hasn't caused me any issues, but it's definitely different than a lot of other vehicles. Tundra's are sweet!
Nissan needs a Warrior Edition with the V6TT. Nissan already has the motor readily available. A 400hp trophy truck for nissan enthusiasts.
That would be sweet. I will say that they've had some issues with blown turbos and oil leaks on those 3.0 TT motors (I had a Q50 before this truck, but mine was a 3.7 for that exact reason). I love the power output but FI just seems to cause more problems and create some issues with longevity unfortunately, :(.
Awesome insight of your experience with the new Frontier Fletch.
Thanks man!
Very Nice video , switched to Nissan 11 years ago, drive a Pathy 2010 looking at the Nissan Frontier.
Nice and thanks! The new Frontiers are really nice.
My Frontier pro 4x rules! Im leasing it and want to buy it but unfortunately the residual value is way too high.
They're great trucks. Glad you like yours! Maybe you can just get another new one, but buy that one instead of leasing it?
Great review! Heavily considering trading my tacoma in for either this or the Ridgeline. Can’t stand the uncomfortable seating position in the taco, not to mention the sluggish engine and transmission
I mean, honestly, depending on your needs for offroading and whether you go "wheeling" a lot, the Frontier is still pretty trucky. I love mine and it fits my needs well, but my wife has a Pilot and a lot of folks that complain about the standard "issues" with the Frontier (short turning radius, heavy steering, truck type feeling overall, transmission downshifting too much in cruise control) would probably love the Ridgeline. Again, I couldn't get to the places I want to go in a Ridgeline (maybe?) but if you aren't going too wild, I also love Hondas and think they're great vehicles. But I do just love the Frontier too, :D.
Without lifting the Ridgeline probably correct. Unfortunately it sits almost passenger car low at 7.6" thats like a typical non off road SUV or slightly tall car. Even the Crosstrek and Forester as a for instance got 8.6" I believe..ive seen a few lifts that would accomplish what you want(maybe even more on a few builds) the AWD would get you where youre going the clearance..well pretty pathetic.. even their supposed off road model only adds A/T type tires but I dont believe and clearance. Im currently looking at the 2022 Pro4X and the Ridgeline for next vehicle.
@@AllThingsOverlanding
First year truck comment: I purchased a 2022 Ford Maverick with the Ecoboost engine. 23,000 in - so far so good. Great gas mileage, getting 28mpg city/ 30-33mpg highway. First Ford/truck purchase for me after owning Hondas for 23 years. Wish now I ordered the AWD/4K tow package because I underestimated what I would be doing with the truck and now find myself towing a converted cargo trailer for camping/boondocking at least once a month. Guess I'll wait a few more years, but the Nissan Frontier is definitely on my list for next time. Curious about the long time reliability for my Ford. Time will tell, I suppose.
I was super close to getting a Maverick but after waiting over a year I gave up and cancelled my order. Then I bought this. You probably have perfect timing because by the time you’re in the market, there will be a lot more data on the new frontiers and used options.
@@AllThingsOverlanding A lot of people ordered and then changed their minds with the Maverick because of the wait times. I gave up on the idea of the hybrid after the salesman told me I'd have "a considerably longer wait time" than if I ordered the EB. Ordered Nov. 3. 2021, and received on April 7, 2022. I know Nissan puts out GREAT trucks; it's the cars & SUVs that have questionable reputations. My daughter's friend bought a new (2018) a year or two after graduating from college, and 20K miles in, both the engine and transmission went out and not through any fault of hers.
I tend to steer away from the CVT vehicles because of those issues, but I've had a Sentra SE-R Spec V, 350z, Xterra, 2 Frontiers, and then a handfull of Infinitis as well and they've all be bullet proof so I've dodged any bullets there so far, but definitely think your assessment is accurate. @@JBLynch
@@AllThingsOverlanding MY SIL had a Nissan Sentra that he loved and was a great car until a drunk rear-ended it. He initially purchased another Sentra after his college graduation, but then traded up for a Honda Insight. Great car, but some material quality issues. They found themselves expanding the family and traded up for a Subaru Outback and also a VW Atlas. I'd bet my money on the Subaru over the Atlas, but again time will tell.
was between a 2023.5 sv and the maverick and went with the frontier because i got a MUCH better deal… so i appreciate this comment reaffirming my decision :)
bought a 22 SV king cab. drove it about 10K. the worst thing is that overly heavy steering, like way way too heavy, still would have as much road feel if half the resistance were there, ridiculously heavy.
Also tall and bigness of it really make seeing what right in front of you difficult.The quiet and ride remind me of a 73 Ford LTD, super smooth and quiet. Did an east to west coast trip and its the best "on the road" car I ever had
I've heard that about the steering from others. Not sure if I'm just used to Nissan trucks, but I don't really notice it. Sure, my wife's Pilot feels way lighter and "artificial" but it's not problematic to switch between the two, but again, lots of people either like or hate the steering so it's a factor for sure.
Definitely agree on the hood of the truck. Big change offroading and I find myself using the front camera all the time on trails because I just can't see where the obstacles are over the hood.
What are you a woman or a child? Heavy steering doesn't bother anyone except men with low T.
The steering is trash under duress, if you are low speed or on the freeway it’s negligible, but they may as well have saved weight by taking the power steering out. Trans and power delivery are nice though, 0-40 feels awesome, under duress driving, not the vehicle for me.
@@Saixjacket yeah, I get where you’re coming from. For me, it’s a truck that I must stay on the highway going to a place to camp or just driving around town. The only time it’s even mildly inconvenient regarding the steering is parking at the local grocery store. But otherwise I just wanted reliability and good value for the money so it works well for what I do.
I had that same issue with my 22 sb crew cab lwb. I put a front leveling kit on and it’s noticeably lighter
Thanks for this! Have you noticed any rattles or other noises from the interior panels since posting this video?
Nope, nothing yet. Everything has been good. Biggest issue is the cruise control drastically overcompensating to keep you at the target speed, but the dealers have a flash for it now that resolves the issue.
@@AllThingsOverlanding Sweet! Really appreciate the quick reply. This helps me a lot... I've got a 2024 PRO-4X in Baja Storm on reserve. Not my first color choice but I'm warming up to it.
Awesome review and video! Will be getting my '23 Frontier Pro4x also in Boulder Gray soon, can't wait. Thanks for sharing!
No problem! Glad it was helpful and congrats on your truck!
I roughly get 19.6mpg on my 23 frontier as well. Mixed driving
Pretty much where I'm at. Thanks for sharing!
I test drove one today. The back seat area may be smal for us. I know it isn’t a full-size but I don’t think two car seats and a mother in law would be comfy back there . :-(. The v6 and 9 speed auto is way better than our Tacomas v6 and 6sp auto we had. I want one tho ;-/
Yeah, it is right so it depends a bit on how much you’ll be having a full vehicle!
Nissan Frontier are nice trucks. I own one. But if you need room for your family, you should get a Nissan Titan. I’m going to get a Titan, because my Frontier is too small for my family.
@@danielmedrano4694 Yep, if you need more space, full size would be better for sure!
I agree, I have a 23 pro-4x and it’s tight with my sons car seat , still rear facing and my wife is crammed in the front. Only flaw I have found about it, but all the midsize trucks are the same
What about braking? And slalom type cornering? Cornering on long radius corners at high speed? Tell us about the body roll, please. Thank you sir!
Braking is adequate. Not a race car by any means, but feels very normal for a truck of this size. I'm coming from a lifted, Titan swapped second gen Frontier with no sway bars to this, so for a truck, it handles really well. Very little body roll. For a truck, it's super composed.
Very nice truck, almost bought one, but went with the 2024 Titan. I wanted the extra room and the last year of a real V-8 truck before everything goes turbo or electric.
Those Titans are super nice. I really didn't need the extra space or capability and didn't want to spend the extra cash, but I still love them, :D.
I test drove one and my biggest complaints are:
-turning radius sucks.
-hard steering.
-no telescoping steering wheel.
-no ventilated seats
Yeah, I’ve heard people talk about those issues. They’re pretty minor issues for me personally and I feel like the overall reliability of the Nissan trucks is what drove my decision.
agreed. steering sucks, to heavy, radius omg don't get in any tight parking spots, your not going to make it,
I love the feel of the hard steering . Gotta have man arms I guess
Great video. Are the seats narrow. How’s the sitting position. I’m 6 ft 1 250lbs just try ing to get input from other drivers
Thanks! I’m about 6’2” and about 230 so pretty close to you. As some people have said the seats do feel a little narrow. I haven’t had any problems with it, but I definitely do sort of feel like I’m sitting on the bolsters a little bit. It’s not uncomfortable, but I get what people are saying.
Taller guy here. Non telescoping steering wheel has been a complaint due to knees hitting dash. Do you experience that?
I’m 6’2” and I my knees aren’t anywhere near the dash and I’m super comfortable in the truck. The power adjustable seats give you a ton of adjustability.
Great Review, I'm looking forward to stepping in.
What's your best 60-65mpg is it good at a lighter cruise over a 70 + mph cruise?
Mpg is important to my purchase.
The best gas mileage I’ve gotten was before I did a tire swap and added so much weight to the rear and I drove for a few days straight out to Wyoming. I found it about 65 mph on the stock tires even with a rooftop tent and a drawer system, and afair amount of weight in the back got me about 19 to 20 miles per gallon.
Thanks
I love mine, but will have to up grade to something bigger. The back is to small for kids and car seats, also NO AIR VENTS IN REAR.
Sounds like a full size would be a good fit!
Let us know if you loose your cruise control if you install bigger tires. I have heard that will happen.
Drove 8 hours away to camp this weekend and cruise worked fine.
1x(1/4/24)…done thank you excellent
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I like the new frontier the only problem with that truck is the back seat is to small and it needs a little more torque.
Yeah, works for my kids, but they aren't in there all the time, :D.
I have a 2006 Frontier XE model 4 cylinder. I had the valve gasket changed, a/c overhauled, shocks, struts, tires, new stabilizer bar installed, and the transmission linkage fixed. It's still better than buying a new truck. The new trucks are great looking, the features and stuff, but I'm not gonna use or need those in my daily use. The price is out of control! If the electronic system goes, those trucks are dead.
Yeah, prices are definitely rising. After having a couple of other Nissans that were great, but as I started to mod them more and more, I ran into issues of cost and reliability (due to the mods, not because of anything intrinsic in the trucks), I just decided to buy a new one and keep the build more mild to get better gas mileage and some piece of mind around it's longevity and reliability since I'm the only owner. Generally speaking though, I'd recommend buying a 3-5 year old truck for most people to save a bunch of money and to still get something relatively new with lower miles.
Any paint issues? One guy said they forgot to paint one door jamb and the underside of the hood along with the fender line under the hood.
No issues on mine. Obviously, if something like that happened, you'd be covered under warranty I'm sure, but I haven't heard of that or had any issues myself.
I have seen a couple of videos on RUclips where the computer could not quite figure out the traction off road. What is your experience so far? I have a 2010 Xterra Offroad and I love it. I was thinking about buying the third gen frontier, but when I watched the videos on the traction off road it wants me to hold back on getting the 3rd gen. Your opinion would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
So, I've had mine through the Wyoming BDR, Wisconsin trails, Michigan trails, deep snow and more and to me (I've had a 2008 Frontier and 2005 Xterra also) it's basically the same. It does really well offroad. There have been times when the traction control gets too aggressive and has stopped progress in snow, for example, but I just switch it off in those occasions and it does great. Just depends on whether you want wheel spin or not, :D. Overall though, it does great.
Im 6’0 tall. About 230 lbs. would this be too small of a truck for me? Because I really like the reviews on this truck I know that Tacoma seemed a little bit too small for me
I’m about 6 foot two and 230 and I fit just fine in the truck. If you can, go test, drive one and set it and mess with the seat and make sure that you’re comfortable but I personally think it’s perfect.
@@AllThingsOverlanding no problem thank you
Do you have any problems with your aeb pedestrian braking system my warning light flashes on mine when nothing is in the way
I haven't had that happen to me. The backup sensors are pretty sensitive. I camp a lot so even if it's a blade of grass or a small bush, it freaks out and I have to hit the "P" button to disable it, haha.
Thank you for the very good review. You went into great detail about everything that interests me in this truck. Unfortunately based on popularity, the Frontier's resale value goes down quickly compared to the Tacoma. So many more people are buying the Tacoma making the Frontier harder to sell and go down quickly in value. But I still like how it looks and I think it would be a very practical truck if I decide to get one.
The great thing about that for you and I is that if you're willing to wait for a used Frontier, you'll get a much better deal than you will on a used Tacoma, :D.
@@AllThingsOverlanding True! Good point but I want a new one. I remember when I was looking at the Tacoma and I mentioned the Frontier to the salesperson he told me to not get the Nissan Frontier because they go down drastically in resale value right when you drive it off the lot as compared to the Tacoma!! But that is expected from a salesperson, right? lol. And I would want to get the new one I like better in spite of its resale value without even thinking about that which should be many years from now.
@@hoseman10 makes sense. It also kind of depends on your plans for the vehicle. For example, resale value means nothing if you don’t plan to sell or trade the vehicle at all or at least not for a long time. For instance, I bought my truck new with the intention of driving it for 10-12 years and basically driving it until the wheels fall off. That way I know the entire history of the vehicle and I get the longevity and reliability of a new vehicle. The frontiers are also pretty reasonably priced so you can save a few thousand dollars off the cost of a similar new Tacoma right up front, which I liked.
@@AllThingsOverlanding Yes, I think these new Tacoma's are overpriced and I've always kept my vehicles 10 years minimum.
i know there are no AC vents and frontier doesn’t offer ventilated seats YET, hopefully for 2025. how is it driving in the summer heat? and rear window is automatic right?
It's not bad at all. I drove it through WY in July and it was HOT when we weren't at elevation. The AC does great, so I didn't have any problems even without ventilated seats. Honestly, I've only ever had ventilated seats on an Infiniti I had before and they were nice, but I don't know that I'd pay a ton extra for them on the truck.
For the rear window, I'm not in the truck right now but I believe only the driver's side front window is automatic and there rest are manual (powered, but no auto up or down function). Hope that helps!
Love my 2022 Frontier ProX. My only complaints are i should have waited for Pro4X and the steering is heavy and tiresome on long highway trips.
I've heard people talk about the steering. I'm used to it, but I've had 3 Nissan trucks over the last 5 or 6 years and I think they're all similar.
Nice video, I’ll check out the other two you mention in this video. I’m trying to decide what truck to purchase, Tacoma or Frontier.
They're both good options, but I've been a Nissan guy for about 20 years now and they've all been great to me.
I drove both today i am a Toyota lover but i was not impressed with the Tacoma at all, so i am leaning heavily towards the Frontier.
Toyota stopped putting a V6 in their Tacoma a couple years ago. The 4 cylinder they currently offer in the SR5 and TRD models 😮is turbo charged and still only puts out 278 hp. Honestly, I thought it felt a little under-powered, a little weak, especially for a 4WD.
The Frontier PRO-4X by comparison is powered by a much improved 3.8L V6, a more powerful yet efficient design that churns out 310 hp. When you step on the gas, you can't help but feel it.
@@briantaylor4564 They still have a V6 in the 2023 Tacoma because i drove one but yes it is under powered.
No comparison, brother.
All 2024 Tacoma's come with a turbocharged 4 cyl engine, pumping out 278 hp, but the same old boring body style.
On the other side of that coin is the totally redesigned and vastly improved new Frontier with a 3.8L V6, a more powerful engine and power train with 310 hp, and the meanest, nastiest, most bad-assed body design ever.
A total no-brainer, dude.
Question, because it’s a direct injection system, have you checked for carbon build up inside the intake manifold?
I haven't yet with only 16K miles on it, but I need to do some research on exactly what kind of maintenance I should be doing due to the direct injection. I was planning to follow the users manual and just stick to that.
@@AllThingsOverlanding keep me posted on this one, it’s probably the only thing that keeps me from trading in my Taco for a 2024 Frontier 4x
Fletch, have you ever used a lift or leveling kit on any of your trucks? I like the new Frontier, but I think the pro-4x could be 1.5 - 2 inches higher. I've been comparing it with other newer mid-size trucks and I've noticed that many brands come lifted right from the factory. I think it would support a more aggressive posture. Thanks.
Totally agree with you. I actually put a 2ish" lift on the truck shortly after I bought it (All Dogs Offroad RC Killa kit). It definitely helps it look more aggressive and it also helped me fit new 33" Kenda Klever RT tires which I just got installed yesterday, :D. If you're on Instagram, look up All Things Overlanding on there and I dropped some pictures of it the other day!
@@AllThingsOverlanding Thanks I am on it and I will check it out
do the nissans still use those cheap plastics that fade, and metal parts that rust and break in less than 10 years? speaking from experience, two xterras. two major repairs that left me stranded in the first xterra, and had to replace the drive shaft in the second, both with less than 90000.
I mean, I haven't had any issues. I've had an 05 Xterra that I drive until 150K miles and it had 0 issues aside from just wearable parts that needed replaced or upgraded. I have an 08 Frontier with 218K miles that still runs fine. Then this truck is brand new, so time will tell. I will say they finally did a good job of updating the interior (and exterior) of the truck after 15ish years.
Great video. Did you get those ditch lights from Rough Country ? Thank you.
Thanks! The ditch light brackets are actually these: amzn.to/47pHUOr
Thank you. @@AllThingsOverlanding
I've been a Toyota CAR guy for 7 years. However my next buy will be a truck, either a Frontier or Taco
Both great options!
I bought a brand new tacoma (2019) at the time. I traded in a 2001 tacoma for it. The 2019 taco was the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. I had problem with it from the very beginning. Crappy gearing, piss poor mpg, retarded transmission, pathetic throttle response, etc…
Driving it on the highway was embarrassing. It would only get into overdrive if I was going downhill or had the wind at my back. Not to mention I went through 3 fuel pumps before i got to 10k miles. Traded it in for a 23 pro4x and couldn’t be happier. No issues so far and I’m 5k miles in.
I’ll never buy another tacoma again.
Would you tow 5,000 lbs from Indiana to Springfield, MO and back? Have you towed 5,000 lbs with this truck? Thank you for the detailed video.
Yeah, I would. I’m not sure of the exact weight but I towed a pretty large metal car trailer with a Subaru legacy on it and it did fine. Toe mode made a big difference too and it handled it great.
Thank you. @@AllThingsOverlanding
Great truck. Door handle position inside killed it for me.
I'm less bothered by the door handles and have a harder time finding the start/stop button behind the steering wheel, but you get used to it.
Has anyone else noticed that if the truck is even slightly cold when you start driving it will have an unusual power loss that suddenly corrects itself without you changing the position of the pedal? I think there is something wrong with mine but it's all in the ecu. I'm talking very light throttle people, not abusing it when it's cold. I've driven a lot of vehicles and I know what feels normal with a cold motor and this is absolutely not normal. I also hate this transmission (probably programming) but it is very easy to confuse it and it slips the converter way too much. What's the point of having power if it can't even get to the wheels. Gear changes are pathetically slow and of course it shifts into way too high of a gear when driving around town. Also let's not forget that when manually shifting the gear changes are even worse and sometimes the truck won't even allow you to shift manually! Sorry but this is my first new vehicle and I was expecting something a lot better put together. I've had beaters my whole life and most were better to drive than this thing.
I haven't really had mine during super cold weather yet, so I'll have to check it out this winter. Yeah, the transmission is pretty annoying. As long as it doesn't fall apart, I"m happy, but all of the sudden downshifts and random redlining can't be great on it, haha.
U bought a nissan bro lol but try changing the fluid or take It in
@@AllThingsOverlanding Today my husband and i drove a 2024 Nissan Frontier King Cab SV. We really liked the shifting of the transmission we did not feel as though it was searching for gears it was actually very smooth. But we also drove a 2023 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab we are Toyota lovers and have been for years but this Tacoma transmission was terrible it was constantly looking for gears, the seats were uncomfortable the steering wheel was to low for me and i could not raise the steering wheel anymore the Frontier has a better tilt on the steering wheel,and the seats were way more comfortable in the Frontier, the passengers seat is not adjustable on the Tacoma and it felt like i was sitting on the floor but the Frontier naturally sits higher and is just more comfortable.
More horse power in the Frontier than the Tacoma and you can tell.
We are really leaning towards the 2024 Frontier King Cab SV because we don't need the extra room on the double cab.
I like the frontier for its simplicity and comfort and the smoothness of the transmission. How quiet the cabin is while driving. The Tacoma had much more road noise.
Things i don't like about it The backup camera is of lousy quality compared to the Tacoma and steering is really tight.
I have this exact issue. 2023 pro4x, 330 miles on it now. It's about 30 to 50 degrees out here right now and in the mornings it gets no power at all. Let of accelerator and give it some back and forth and still nothing, then all of a sudden it "snaps" back into normal operation which is still a mess finding the right gear to be in. I love this truck but whatever technology they have in the transmission to find the proper gear is screwed up.
I'm taking it to the dealership to get the throttle position sensors changed, trans fluid changed, and see if they still need to put in a transmission update from a year or to ago that were on other frontiers.
Maybe those are a good place to start let me know if you find a fix I will update when I get it back from service
@@kylehartley3822 mine’s a lease so I haven’t cared as much but now that it’s getting cold I may have them look at it
Will this truck last me 15-20 years easily with no major mechanical issues especially in the first 8-10 years? Just normal upkeep?
I mean, it's hard to say, but I have an 08 with 218K also that still runs. Is it perfect? No, but it's also been offroad and modded quite a bit. I'm pretty confident that this truck will easily last me 10 years plus even with quite a bit of offroad use. Most of my Nissans have had 150-200K and only required normal maintenance.
@@AllThingsOverlanding thanks for the info. Seems Nissan prices are a little better too. I’ve seen a few sitting at a local dealer near me ( Savannah) that appear to have been there quite a while
@@AVoltigeur Yep, they're less expensive than a comparable Toyota by quite a bit and they overproduced them due to high demand early last year so people are getting great deals on them right now. I, unfortunately, paid full MSRP early last year because the market was nuts and their weren't as many then. But, I still love it and it was easily $8-10K less than a similar Tacoma with the old 3.5 liter and 6 speed auto, so I'm happy.
@@AllThingsOverlanding I like a gas saver for sure but a V6 V8 would probably be h next choice. My Camry gets like 37-38 mpg so I’m spoiled right now. Hopefully prices come down more next spring. That’s when I’ll probably be buying.
How is the turn radius? I had an older model frontier and the turn radius was awful when parking.
Lots of people complain about the turning radius. I personally don't have any problems with it because I'm used to it. It's easy to drive around.
Still large!
ty for the review, so 23 Tacoma or Frontier? if u had to choose
I chose the Frontier, 😀
Does the Pro-4x has leaf springs in the back or are there coil springs all around with the bilsteins?
Good question. Leaf springs and a solid axle in the back. All Frontiers are set up like that. Biggest difference with the Pro-4X is the e-locker in the rear axle versus no locker in the lower trims.
Great review, how tall are you?
I’m about 6’2”
I had thought of getting one. Wish they had dealership lifts you could install. Will 35 inch tires work on this?
35’s are pretty tough to fit on these trucks. If you did a Titan swap (basically swap in full size Titan suspension components) then you might be able to fit 35’s with some cutting. 33’s seem to be the best upgrade for them and that’s what I’m going to do on mine.
@@AllThingsOverlanding I was gonna do 33 on mine but I’ve read that anything over 32 will rub. Is this true?
@@Jerlemi2 It’s really close. If you really want to avoid rubbing don’t add any wheel spacers. You may also have to remove your mud flaps. I have 1” wheel spacers and had to remove mudflaps, cut the bottom few inches off of my fender liners, and cut a small amount of metal to fit them.
@@AllThingsOverlanding thanks for responding. I’ll probably just stick with 32’s
Are the seats/seating position comfortable?
I think so, yes. They have the new seats in them that are extremely comfortable and after over 11K miles, I love these seats. Much better than the last gen of the truck (which weren't terrible, but these are way better).
can this take the next size tires without a lift? whats the ground clearance stock?
The Pro-4X's come with basically just shy of 32's and I think the stock trucks come with 31's. They have about 9.5" of ground clearance. I'm running 285/70R17's and did the All Dogs RC Killa lift (about 1.5-2") and I have 1" wheel spacers and because of the offset, I had to trim the plastics and cut a small amount of metal up front. But if you're stock offset, I've heard of people fitting that tire size with no lift.
Highly thinking about trading/selling my 13' civic Si and putting 5k down with it to secure me one of these beasts. I just hope all the tech holds up, i'm torn between the 22' and the 21'.. also wish they'd remedy the boatlike turn radius.
If you don't care about some of the new tech stuff and upgraded design, then you can probably find a 21 for signficantly cheaper. If it's close though, the upgrades in the new truck are worth it in my opinion. Good luck!
I had seen some videos about a upgraded 2024 Nissan Frontier- was curious if you had any info on this? Love the channel
Appreciate it! I don’t have any insider info unfortunately. But they did make some minor changes from 2022 to 2023 so it’s possible!
@@AllThingsOverlanding i really hope they decide to take the pro 4x models a little further to compete with the others in the midsize offroady area.
@@shankmcstabface agreed!
@shankmcstabface I'd like to see 6ft ProX4
The '24 is going to lose two gears in the transmission.
I'm reading information online that they plan on increasing the torque in 2024 with the use of a turbo on the 3.8 V6., have you heard anything about that?
I unfortunately don’t have any insider info so I’m waiting to learn more too!
I drove a 2024 today no Turbo engines that i am aware of.
I'm still waiting for Toyota to release the price of the next gen Tacoma, but this truck is in the top 3 on my list. I'm also considering getting a Colorado Trail Boss, but I would rather have a naturally aspirated engine. Don't trust the turbocharged engines.
Me too. The Tacoma of course will be nice, but I'm loving the Frontier even after 10K miles now.
I'm here cause a Colorado is nothing but headaches.
I hate to say it, but I've had a few Chevy's and, personally, we've had tons of big problems with them. After a few domestics, I gave Nissan a try and now I've probably had 10-15 of their cars and they've all been really great with almost exclusively just maintenance items (cats, starter, etc.).@@teabaggervance8
@@teabaggervance8 on paper the new Colorado seems like a great truck, but on FB group people have nothing but problems with them.