Do NBA Players REALLY Get Away With Carrying The Ball?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Are NBA Players REALLY Carrying The Basketball?
A lot of people aren't clear on the rules in basketball, mainly because they're going on what they were taught growing up, but very few people take the time to learn things like what is actually a carry according to the rule book.
Because of this, there's a lot of plays where people think NBA players are carrying the ball when they're not, but at the same time there ARE a lot of instances where NBA players do carry the ball.
In this video you'll learn how to tell the difference, so when you see NBA stars dribble a basketball you'll know if it's legal or not.
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From the official NBA rules-
Rule No. 10, Section II, d: A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and (1) carry it from one point to another or (2) bring it to a pause and then continue to dribble again.
Not a single part of you hand, not the tip of your pinky may go below the equator in order to manipulate the natural bounce of the ball under the current rules. In conclusion, I see every NBA player doing this.
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Where are you getting it can't go "below the equator " of the ball? The rule states only, "no part of the hand can go under the ball" however the rules do not define what under the ball means. This leads to interpretation. Under the ball could be below the equator of the ball, but it could also mean below the lower 20-30% of the ball, or really anything. The vague terminology pretty much makes the ruling solely based on the officiating standards of the time. And to be fair, players have been putting their hand on the side of the ball ,like Lebron is in the thumbnail, without it being called a carry since the 1960's.
This was extremely useful. When I see players carrying and traveling today I am always being told that they are just so much better at it and that players back in the day were simply unskilled and therefore couldn't do it.
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KD, Harden, Westbrook, Lebron, Siakam...those are the ones I see carrying the ball fully while bringing the ball up. I cant stand it
All you have to do is watch basketball in the 1970s to see how we changed the way we call carries.
The reason you never saw a AI crossover then was, simply it was a carry!
The factor that makes it most difficult for the refs to call it is the league telling the refs not to.
Hahaha! You get it! It’s ENTERTAINMENT, that other people are making BILLIONS from. People who can only imagine having that athleticism, height or combo of both, pay for tickets, jerseys, shoes, cable/streaming services etc to watch grown men play a GAME! And those players make MILLIONS! So someone has to be making a LOT more to pay them that….. so it’s funny when people complain, like they coulda made it to the league. If ONLY they were allowed to “carry” in grade school! It’s a different game in the pros! It’s not “rigged” but it’s not the same
They haven't called carrying sine the late 80's early 90's. It's a shame too
It'll look like the 60s again...
@@BHanif1996 Yes but rules are rules. Why not just let them run without dribbling? It would look a lot cooler.
@@chuckHart70 it wouldn't look cooler. Anyway as long as the hand is not underneath the ball its fine. Also if they do a little carry coming up the court with no defender on them it shouldn't matter
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It probably killed the center position because bigs can now dribble in open court.
If your hand is on the lower hemisphere of the ball it is by definition a carry. It does not have to be directly underneath.
No, majority of your hand. You can be halfsies 🌗
Refs at any level still won’t call if it’s a little over
@@Sharp_3yE In Old school basketball the wasn't allowed on the side at all
No excuses for refs, that’s their job. They need to call all the carries. NBA is teaching kids the wrong way and refs are letting them get away.
Have you ever noticed the NBA doesn't utilize "slow motion replay"
They been carrying ball at least since seventies I played in the military and this guy was really good from Memphis he was always carry we complain
he tell us look at NBA games I'm not carrying I don't have a problem refs not calling iit .I'm sure NBA not loosing any viewers from the lack of calls of carrying the ball and stop asking others to teach your kids on fundamental things
@@harryrichardson1760no dumb@ they haven't
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Dumb you sound like a crack baby
Isaiah Thomas would carry a lot when does his half spin move on the Celtics
yeah, he was impressive in his prime but got away with a fair amount of pretty bad carries
No he travels
But his back would be to the goal, so there isn’t a clear advantage
I don't mind the carrying. But let's stop saying that players today are more skilled. They're allowed to get away with more stuff.
And are more skilled. It's both.
Sure there were very skilled players in the past, but as a whole.. the average NBA player is more skilled.
@ryansack5198 Again, guys travel and carry ALOT more than in the past. That's where that skill is coming from. I'd say players have better jumpshots from long range. But I also feel players in the past had much better post moves.
Slap the ball from the top with a flat hand is dribbling and anything else is traveling.
Kyrie is really good at riding that line. Such finesse and detail to his dribbling form. I think the only time I’ve seen him get popped for carrying is when his defender initiated contact and threw Kyrie off balance.
yeah, he gets real close but is usually too close to blow the whistle
I wouldn’t call it finesse, it’s a Carrie. NBA is teaching our kids the wrong way to dribble. NBA I mean Refs, players, TV commentators that glorify such a a “great plays” when in reality are Carries or travels.
Actually you just can't handle nuance. Most people can't. The average person sees crimson and scarlet as simply red. So I don't expect you to watch feet and pay close attention to hand placement within a few inches of difference.
@@daniel2en2 Kyrie is legit though. Very great at towing the line
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Problem is people tends praise these kinds of moves, and blindly accept that it’s not a carry.
Dribbling is so damn lax now. The one that always trips me up is when the hand is "behind" the ball or a pocket dribble. I just play pick up and dont wanna be the salty guy calling "carry" though lol
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The ONLY thing the NBA is doing better now , is 3 PT'ers and athleticism . Thats it. The rest of the game has worsened , due to the almighty $ .
if the ball is pausing at all, or your hand is on the lower portion of the ball, its a carry. just another way nba makes the game easier for modern players
That's what I was taught playing basketball in the late 70s. If there was a pause, you got called on it.
Now, it looks like the ball is not falling when it reaches its max height. That demands an explanation of physics...palming, carrying, whatever.
It should be falling...not hesitating.
Video Suggestion: Make a video on how to keep the ball from hitting your foot, knee, leg, butt etc.
I’ve hit on those things in previous videos, but not in a single one. I’ll definitely consider this!
Iverson : I carried my crossover all the way into the hall of fame
Most selfish player ever. There is NO TEAM in I-verson !
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i call carry during pick ups we all grown men and should know how the game is played .....even kids need it called on them so they wont pick up bad habits only way u going to teach them is if u call travel and carry on them double dribble ex ....
its funny how pros dont even know how to dribble right
True...3 steps in between dribble is still a travel.
They used to call the Studder step back in the day, before Jordan came into the league
The NBA since David Stern became Commissioner has changed many rules to benefit their "Star Players". But in REAL Basketball rules that are NOT bias many things today are indeed violations. None of these "moves" would fly in the 1950's-1980s/early 90's. All of them would be called
That first Allen iverson type cross over is definitely a carry but they let that slide, the nba dose not called shit by the book, moving screens,travels usually on a dunk, the worst trend now is the forearm shove
It's not just the NBA. College players are carrying the ball a lot as well. I think John Wooden even said something like "Everyone carries the ball nowadays".
Great point about kids learning the casual carry bringing the ball up the court
It's really tough to say when you can't see it properly 🤷♀️... I myself get away with it quite a few times (especially in pick up... Nobody ever calls if you carry the ball behind your back or something)
And letting a few very slight carries slide actually makes the game more entertaining (AND 1 took this to an extreme level 😆)
It aint tough they just dont call it anymore. Carry all Day and it sucks
@@yougod7253yea I lost all respect for nba players
Carrying is like holding on the offensive linemen in the NFL the ref can call it Everytime if they want but they don't
Facts
My problem is that already the defense is at a disadvantage with the foul calls on most of the even incidental contact on guards. Between this and the push off that many offensive players get away with defense is not really an aspect of the game. The way I understood it growing up in the 70s/80s is that if the ball at the top of the dribble moves laterally in any direction along the same plane without going down then it seemed to be called a carry…because you weren’t ‘dribbling’ but ‘carrying’ the ball along a path.
Shart answer: "Yes, every possession"
Luca. Though he is one of my faves, he carries like Mariah
Just because you're not guarded doesn't mean it's not a carry. People wouldn't be ok with a two-handed dribble or blatant travel casually walking up the court.
Just watched Luka highlight against Clippers thought it was carrying so I started googling carrying in NBA came upon your video, his hand wasn't technically under the ball so I guess it's good I guess it's evolution of the game
Yes, to answer your video title
This guy doin great job appriciate that
The problem is the nba is a seperate league from all other basketball under FIBA basketball around the world, the NBA can do what they want to their product to make it more of a spectacle to the detriment of the sport imo
I tried to explain this to some ppl. Also told them to watch some games. Refs call carrying on somebody damn near every game lol... But it's hard to see the difference in those small differences of action. It's not as obvious as it would've been 30 years ago bc players are too good at tight roping the rules
My opinion. Aquarius when your hand is under the ball gripping it. Your hand should be on top of the ball and make a score. You can grip the ball underhand twisted and start dribbling that's not basketball that's an illusion. But I understand the NBA wants to game to work faster and give people excited. Actually is carrying the ball because if you gripped up under it turn it around then start dribbling again that's caring about those millimeters a second is caring about without dribbling but everybody has their own rules.
Ummm nice try but NBA players carry the ball constantly. I can’t stand watching pro basketball. It’s carry carry carry, traveling, moving pics...the whole game long. The game is unwatchable.
Melo is the use to be the “carry god” with that hesitation crossover 😂😂😂
If the league's top players from carrying the ball and start back dribbling the ball the way Oscar Robertson Elgin Baylor did I guarantee you they wouldn't be so great
Obviously the carry is called differently now versus like 1980. I call it the “democratized dribble” now since the officiating allows every 6’9 dude to be a threat on the drive. I remember the last time they tried to crack down on it on the beginning of the ‘01 season.
Good explainer.
Could you do a video on left/or non dominant hand dribbling?
Just subscribed and didn't see a video on it. Thanks!
YOU ALSO have to understand the way the game if OFFICIATED.
The players carry the most when it is 1 guy with NO DEFENSE within close enough to begin a closely Guarding Count (which they got rid of partially BUT the distance of the Defender DOES MATTER).
A BASIC CONCEPT of the Rules is Advantage/Disadvantage... if you watch Soccer a lot you probably understand this concept already. Basically, if no one gains an Advantage or no one is Disadvantaged by something that happens on the Court there is NO CALL to make.
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So this guy dribbling by himself is not using a carry to keep the ball away from the Defense. He is gaining No Advantage. But if the Defender is close enough to apply Defensive Pressure and he Carries the Ball the Dribble HAS AN ADVANTAGE is you do not call it. And the Defender has been put at a DISADVANTAGE to get a Steal or force a turnover.
Another place you might see this come into play is Block/Charge Situations. When there is a NO CALL odds are the players bumped but neither was knocked off Balance. The Offense did not lose the Ball. The Dribbler did not get around the Defender and the Defender did not keep the Dribbler from getting around him. And typically it has occurred far enough from the basket that it has not affected the game in anyway.
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But contact on the shot... even the lightest contact... someone has likely got an Advantage or has been Disadvantaged by that contact because it has likely affected the chance to Score.
Advantage/Disadvantage is just 1 of the Basic Concepts of the Rules. So it doesn't necessarily Apply to everything that happens on the Court.
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Luka Doncic coming up the court slowly, looking for setups, imo, carries on every dribble. The hand is not entirely under the ball but it it is also not on top of it. behind, with a tendency to be slightly below the equator. But I agree, I don't think it gives any advantage or even really changes anything
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No part of your hand can be below the equator of the ball.
When A I would crossover, it would kill me they let him carry over every time
You excuse the refs not calling carrying in basketball anymore because "the refs can't see every single thing every single time". at 4:19. The refs don't need to call the close ones. Just the blatant ones EVERY TIME across all games. NBA and College and High School. That will stop it. Enforce the rules. Simple.
C'mon man, this violation is rampant and ruining the game IMO. Its way way way way way to easy to roast a defender off the dribble when you can put your hand underneath the ball anytime you want without impunity. I just watched FDU vs SFU in 2nd round of the NCAA men's tourney. #2
Demetre Roberts, for FDU is an amazing player. SUPER quick, handles, but he carries worse than any player all game long. It made me not want them to win the cinderella dream. Get that GARBAGE OUT OF BASKETBALL!! Not shouting, just emphasis. It ruins the authenticity of the game. Period. Makes defending a really quick player nigh impossible, which will always give those who abuse this blatant NO-CALL a reason to be better than the rest. Breaking the rules, aka cheating, detracts from the game. The trend of REF's allowing it has to stop. Unless they want to change the rules and announce it across the board.
How do we coach our kids? Don't carry? Carry and be unstoppable. The game has devolved.
It's not fair to the game to let him get away with carrying like this, and we applaud him.
LeCarry Get Away Carrying call from a game winning shot in 2006 Wizard playoffs G5 , so i guess the answer is yes
If anything they should allowing carrying to a certain extent. Almost something like letting a team do it only in their half of the court or something along those lines
That wiggle you put into your crossover at 0:04 looks deadly
I hate when people call carry because of a dribble combo I do. I dribble dribble, I put my right leg out, when I am still dribbling, and do a step back. They call this a travel and carry....
You held the boll like some swimmer holds a drowning head
NBA players carry ALL THE TIME. James Harden is one of the worst offenders. Carrying is one of the reasons why todays NBA's game is considered by many to be 1. A different game than NBA basketball pre-2000. 2. Inferior to NBA basketball pre-2000.
One has to go back to the origins of basketball and or at least played or watched pros back in the fifties and sixties . the standards then were very very strict as to palming and carrying . a player could not dribble the ball from the side under any circumstances , let alone come up underneath the ball , rotate your hand to the top and drive it into the floor . Almost every player today would be called for carrying forty years ago . in those days only a few skilled players were considered great ball handlers . today everyone is a good ball handlers because of the rules not being called by the ref or the league.
Your interpretation of palming and carrying is based on what is " allowed "not what the original rules stated . i suggest you find some videos of players in the sixties. you will quickly see the difference from todays lax rules .
Yep
Depends on the situation
They carry way too much.
I played basketball all my life and it's not hard to see dribbling violations. Especially when there's a hundred of them a game and they're blatant! Most of the bigs can't dribble and if they called all the violations they couldn't play because they would turn it over every single time. Start calling the violations or change the rules. Or even better bring back some 6 ft two guys that can actually handle the ball
Heres the case i my country: you will get penalised for the hint of carrying the ball
If it doesn't matter while dribbling up the court with no pressure, it should be no different then just walking up with it in both hands not dribbling at all! While we are at it.....if no one is guarding you why even dribble just carry the ball until a defender gets close....seams reasonable. Hell might as well just carry it around until a defender is within arms length.
KD carry the ball a lot with his crossover but they rarely called carrying anymore.🤣
Of course they carry/Palm the ball 90 percent of time. Your making up misinformation about the dribbling. They Palm the ball at least 90 percent of the time …. And they travel about 70 percent of the time. I don’t know what game your playing but the fact is they allow it now and they allow traveling also. The NBA and College game has become unwatchable at best.
I Guess No?
I think it depends on the situation
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I just found out my whole game is carrying the ball 😂😳
Same!
🤣🤣right, but these are too much, like keep the game flowing, talking about “how you are gripping the ball”
Loll yall was born in 2000s
We should talk about LeBron and harden travels 🤣 ig: camzo_667
already have on here, have another video coming soon
They usually aren't travels. Harden anyway. Lebron... ehh
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Ja Morant is the worst of the worst
Luka is a close 2nd. In my other comment I mentioned a D1 player for FDU, # 2 Demetre Roberts.
Wow you play like proffesor
Kinda, slightly different style though 😃
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It's in the rules book. You can't have any part of your hand under the ball and you can't pause the ball and carry to another point. Tim Hardaway had a very good cross over but he didn't carry like Allen Iverson.
That’s cuz AI was doing street ball moves and that was illegal in da nba lol y’all wasn’t use to seeing insane shit like that that’s why y’all think it’s a carry 😂
You're carrying every time. You're hand is always coming under the ball.
Basketball is fucking goofy and annoying now.
Everything you're doing is a carry.
Carry look at elbow point down
0:07 that is not a carry
Nope, but it is right on the line, and some of the "pocket dribbles" and some of the pullback dribbles he demonstrates in the video go even lower in terms of hand position on the ball.
From the perspective of the player, it's especially hard to tell. When you're reaching over the top of the ball, it's hard to see and hard to evaluate if your hand is dropping below the ball on the front side because you can't see from that side. I feel like if the creator took a close look at the video, he'd probably also say, "Yeah one or two of those may have been a little too low."
The main thing is there's no reason to call it in a game unless it specifically gives a player an unfair advantage.
If I see a player "break ankles" on a play, but he carried a little, if the carry isn't really what caused the juke to be effective, it's a silly call. If the entire effectiveness of the dribble attack is based on the carry, yes, absolutely call that.
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you would be good in football😂
allen iverson carreied his way into the hall of fame
They ALL carry the ball constantly!!!!
today's players carry like crazy they have garbage handles just another reason why the nba is so soft these days
Pocket dribble is a leagal form of the carry
It's alot of carrying Period dude stop w this crap The refs just don't call it unless they Really blatant
yes - NBA Players REALLY Get Away With Carrying The Ball
The NBA just lets him get away with it because it’s not as exciting without it’s not hard.
Lebron and curry do that alot walking up the court and get no calls
Pretty much every nba player I see nowadays carries.
Giannis does this a lot too.
Back in the days lots of these dribbling and moves were not legal. Very boring to watch. Now everyone Carrie's a lot and the refs let's it go because it's much more fun to watch..
N b a. Sucks. Don’t watch anymore. You sound like a politician. It’s a carry. It’s traveling. Call it let them play defense. Believe me the game will be better
All of that s*** is carrying
Kevin Durant carries the ball nearly all of the time. I don't understand how he gets away with it. Take that carry away from him and he is just an average player at best.
Kyrie irving and KD
I think they changed the rule because of AI, maybe not officially, but they allow it now.
Second one: Westbrook does that a lot
KD is the king of carry......
More refs on the floor might help with this
Same
"A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and (1) carry it from one point to another or (2) bring it to a pause and then continue to dribble again."
Why not just change the rule? As I see it nearly every crossover is a carry. Just change the rule to express the actual intent of the rule. You can see the Tim Hardaway vs AI differences and know AI carries based on a clearly out of date rule
Durant Carries when he jukes
😢 BS basketball for the last 15 years. The carrying and traveling is so obvious now. It's athletic, but not legitimate basketball. Oh well, rules be damned, right?!
YES. ITS CALLED PALMING THE BALL. You are CHEATING if you do it.
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