Stuck in Europe - The English Games That Skipped America
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i would love to see a retrospective of the history of video games in europe sometime in the future! it may not be as drama-filled as the crash of '83 but it does sound intriguing
I've had it down on my idea list for a while! Probably something that would need a lot more research though - Jon
Me too i would love some comparative between Europe and americas history and style of games
It's definitely very different. I think SEGA was much more popular until Sony arrived, at least in my country that's how it was.
Americans however, are always immensely nostalgic over Nintendo. Here, Nintendo only got really popular once the Gameboy arrived. I believe Nintendo didn't have many PAL releases on their consoles during the 2D era so SEGA took advantage of this. It's also interesting how Sony managed to build a fortress here where even the PS3 at its lowest was outselling the Xbox 360. The UK might be a little different on this though since they were in love with Halo at the time.
I'd love to know how they marketed Mario in Italy...
In the NSO footage, I noticed that Jon's profile icon is the Wise Waddle Dee from Forgotten Land. I love how that Waddle Dee is just part of his identity now after the "Waddle Dee Knows" stuff.
What do you mean Waddle Dee Knows is John? Waddle Dee Knows is a reputable leaker who knows Miyamoto cereal facts /s
"Here I am!" Please let that poor Victorian British child out of the game disc!!!
How are you doing Thomas the tank engine
Hi 👋
Wait Zelda's Adventure is Europe exclusive?? I feel like it's so often grouped with the other CD-i games that nobody has ever mentioned the fact
I guess it's because most people who know about the CDI games haven't actually played them and those who did most likely played them via emulator
There are some Master System games that were Brazil exclusives bc a company called TecToy was handling everything Sega related in the 90's here for this reason they even ported some Game Gear games to Master System themselves (I think that's the case for Sonic Blast), MS was very popular here in Brazil too, much more than NES, they also developed a regional version of wonderboy (search Mônica e o Castelo do Dragão for images) and they localized Phantasy Star to portuguese which is incredible bc even today JRPGs usually don't get translated to portuguese very often
Crazy that it nearly happened with Xenoblade. Interesting that there’s also a video’s worth of the games where vice versa is true
I have a friend who's always dismayed on the "bad" accents in Xenoblade and I have to remind them that it was localized in Europe cause NoA didn't want believe it would succeed.
@@YdenMk-II that’s what I don’t get, I get criticizing how the actual voice acting and direction can be (specifically with 2 apparently not having much in the way of… actual voice direction)
But it’s really not valid to criticize the voice acting just because “you don’t like the accent”
@@YdenMk-II Xenoblade Chronicles actually has some really good voice acting, remarkably so. Especially when you consider a lot of JRPGs aren't exactly known for stellar voice acting. The British accents are also very refreshing for a change. The voice actors in Xenoblade Chronicles are so charming and hugely expressive, it hooked me in as well as the music and world building.
Jon continues to be the sole popular advocate for Endless Ocean, and as a lifelong fan of the games (literally, EO1 came out when I was 2), I appreciate it being mentioned here.
At the time, I wasn't aware that the Nintendo DS was region-free, but once I learned that I went and got a copy of Last Window off eBay. Both it and Hotel Dusk are such intriguing stories even if they come off a bit too contrived on some plot elements lol.
The DSi-enhanced DS games and the DSi cartridges were region-locked tho
Hotel Dusk and Last Window are perfect games. Like, absolute pure perfection. If there's any game in this video you play, it one of these.
Holy shit, I totally forgot Last Window existed. I just recently restarted and finished Hotel Dusk after first playing and dropping it back in 2009 and I've been wanting another game like this and even looked up some information on Cing and their games and only saw they went bankrupt sometime after Hotel Dusk.
Guess I'm gonna go play Last Window now, I'm so excited! 🥰
I like those games so much that I'm determined to make a spiritual successor to them in the future. The characters, setting and overall pacing of the story it's just perfect.
As an European, I was shocked about how smooth and Sonic played after I discovered the world of emulation. Thanks for this video, great!
Disaster: Day of Crisis is one of my favorite games. Thanks for covering it!
I was born and raised in Mexico, where I learned the history of video games from a North American perspective. Now, I moved to Germany almost 2 years ago, and ever since I've been learning this other European narrative. It's fascinating how these two (usually) related parts of the world had such a distinct history. This is the video I needed. Thank you, Jon.
Last Window was the first game I've ever imported and it quickly became one of my favorite games of all time. Thank you for highlighting this underrated gem 🙏
It’s crazy how I didn’t know about almost all of these existing. It feels like Jon is rewriting history for me.
As someone who lives in the UK, one of my favourite video games is an adaptation of the "Wacky Races" cartoon that released on the PS2 only in europe. The controls are snappy, the gimmicks make sense, the sense of speed is great and it is such an underrated classic that it's genuinely one of the reasons that i am happy to be in the UK.
Thank you for including Terranigma. It was the first game that actually made me cry when I beat it back then. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful and touching story!
It did the same to me, I absolutely loved it and that ending properly made me emotional for the first time, I will never forget it and the music keeps coming back to me…
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland is fantastic I'll never understand why Americans hate the guy so much
The majority of Tingle's formative life was in the late N64 era and the entirety of the GameCube era, which is also the time when everyone tried really hard to be edgy and look like _real_ "grownups." Tingle was hated for being a weird comic relief character born in an era when being funny was a sin for "babies." He hasn't quite entirely recovered since.
Also something about... slave labour in Wind Waker. I'm sure it's unrelated.
Funfact: I (german guy) never liked Tingle much, but I didn't hate him either. He was just odd. But the games he was in were odd too, so whatever.
And then I played Four Swords Adventures.
Tingle is a terrible person in this game. He will steal from the player(s), for his own gain, with the future of the world in the balance, but he plain-out does not care.
Another Funfact: Omega Force originally intended to have Tingle in the Story of (the first) Hyrule Warriors. Aonuma told them that this would hurt sales in the West and they should take him out. The Team at Omega Force actually misunderstood what he meant and took Tingle out of the Game entirely, instead of just out of the "Legends" Mode.
He was reintroduced into the Game via DLC, but as part of a package because it was once again surmised he wouldn't sell on his own.
There even is a friend of mine who plain-out refuses to buy Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition because Tingle is on the Cover. That's just childish in my book. Though I have to agree that Definitive Edition, despite its moniker(and incredible wealth of content), has the worst Box Art out of the three versions.
Fun fact: The Game Boy, GBA and DS actually doesn't have region locking (Nintendo only started to have region locking on their handheld games with DSi-exclusive software), so if any Americans want to import a Europe-only game (or vice versa) for one of those systems, you can play it on the system that you already have.
Terranigma was easily my favourite game on the SNES growing up, beating out Illusion of Time which I remember being obsessed with.
I never thought about it until watching the end of this video, but it would have been pretty cool to get a Doshin stage in Smash Bros. where the land is altered by the titular giant as you play (and maybe he could even step into the fray occasionally to segment the stage).
This is probably the best game-related RUclips video I've watched all summer 😃
This guy has the voice and the charisma that is perfect for these kinds of videos.
More please, and with the same European viewpoint.
Too few videos are talking about stuff outside the USA.
Watching this is educational, something to learn here, EU or the USA does not matter as long as there is something to learn from it🙂
Almost all of these were also released in Australia. Outrun 3D, Terranigma, Project Zero MoBW, most of those Buzz games etc etc
If I'm not mistaken, Australia is included in the PAL region with Europe when it comes to videogames
@@mds_main Australia is PAL but Australia is not Europe.
@@goatbone
Of course, but given they're both PAL they got the same games (at least I think) and so the same exclusives. But I get what you mean, the title should have probably mentioned PAL instead to be more precise.
@@mds_main There are actually some game release differences between Australia and Europe, for example Warioware Twisted was not released in Europe, but it was released in Australia.
Cannot wait for the in-depth analysis and review of Tingle’s Freshly Picked Rosy Rupeeland.
A couple of notable NES games you missed were (Mr.) Gimmick and Hebereke, a.k.a. Ufouria: The Saga; an honourable mention goes to Banana Prince, but its European release was in German rather than English.
Technically, Germany got a Deutsch version of Dragon Quest Monsters on the Gameboy Color. They even got the Dragon Quest name where the US/English version was released as Dragon Warrior Monsters.
31:28 - I remember that one! My brother bought that Pokemon typing game while we were at
Fan Expo back in 2013.
The "Classic Serie" Mario game was the one I played on one of those "150 games in 1" bootleg GBA cartridges as a kid.
This is the first I'm learning about _why_ it was so different from the original game.
It's good that we are in a very good spot from a game-accessibility standpoint now. There is barely any regionlocking going on with the switch and the few pieces of it can usually be gotten around semi-easily. And more games tend to have more languages supported in the same copy of the game too.(I was genuinely surprised to see literally everything being present in Kirby Star Allies, but I sure won't complain)
some of the developers of Terranigma have been trying to run anniversary campaigns on twitter and change org to push for some form of global rerelease, sadly to not much avail, but it seems more like just a lack of effective outreach than a genuine lack of interest, so I really hope this mention leads to some groundswell.
I still remember going to Japan back in the day and being amazed at Smash Bro's Melee... It was still to release in Australia and didn't for quite a while.
There's something ironic about this video, which details all about European games which never went to the US, being sponsored by Hello Fresh, a company that only exists and delivers in the US (minus Alaska and Hawaii)
Hello Fresh also operates in the UK, I've seen loads of ads over here
Most of these games were made in Japan & saw Japanese releases as well. If you want European games, one would have to look elsewhere. Lying title.
Superb video!
Congrats on 100k subs guys! Jon you were the reason I subbed so I appreciate you introducing me to the rest of the GVG crew!
Great stuff. I love your channel. It’s criminally underrated.
Finally somebody talks about our videogame history. It's tiresome to hear about the videogame crash as this big thing when it only affected North America. In general the USA can be a bit egocentric when it comes to history.
There’s a Bomberman game on the DS called ‘Bomberman 2’ I think it’s really good and was exclusive to Europe, but I never hear anyone talk about it.
12:52 I like how you just casually provided a simple explanation for one of the most vein-poppingly, trauma-inducing frustrations of my childhood.
This and the Carnival Night Zone barrel, SEGA. You have a lot to answer for.
Gonna go...just lie down...now...
I love importing so this should definitely get a sequel or 10! Thanks Jon!
Fantastic video, Jon.
Very interesting video! Thanks, Jon!
"Disaster: day of crisis" is one of my top Wii games; it's incredible fun and varied in levels and mechanics. I think it's one of the few games that showcase how motion controls can make playing immersive.
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-Other games are
-Metroid Prime 3
-Star Wars: the Force unleashed
-Super Mario Galaxy
-Harry Potter and The Order of the Phoenix
-No more heroes
Really fun video! Always liked learning about this stuff
Vib-Ribbon is similar to Animal Crossing for the GameCube in that you can take the disc out and the game will still run, something me and my brothers were happy to do, since we had multiple GameCubes, and this meant we didn't have to share a town, take turns using the disc, or buy multiple copies of one game (* cough cough * New Horizons...). Too bad Animal Crossing doesn't also share the ability to import your own music into the game lol
Nothing is more America than banning a game about Maths and logic puzzles because it doesn't adequately train one's brain, but guns are fine and dandy.
I'd love to see Terranigma get the HD-2D treatment. As an American I didn't play the game until two summers or so ago on my SNES classic with the game modded onto it. The emulation was far from perfect, and it caused me a lot of frustrations. Despite that though it was such a charming and wonderful adventure that I'd love to revisit. I still remember a number of the music tracks because of how catchy they are.
Gotta love the fact Another Code Recollection will give those who missed how good the games were on the DS. Can't wait for it to release honestly.
sonic blast only came to brazil cause tectoy (sega’s distributor in brazil) made the port. the master system was a big success here in brazil because of tectoy, that made a great job selling it here.
tectoy also made the duke nukem 3D genesis port
I threw this on expecting Terranigma and I wasn’t disappointed. Great video, Jon!
Excellent video! I really enjoyed it. I've always wondered what it was like to be a Euro gamer, with so many missed titles surely there must be some regional exclusives too? Thank you for making it, I found it very informative. Well done.
Winter Gold for the SNES is a European exclusive and has some of the best graphics on the system. It was published by Nintendo and uses the Super FX 2 chip
Glad to hear someone in the comments point out a SNES game that ACTUALLY WAS a Europe exclusive.
Your revelation about screen crunch with sonic is such a revelation! I had that on game gear and an among those who could never beat the first boss stage. I'll be seeking out that master system version!
2:25 I'm from a part of the world where the MSX dominated more than the NES. Different perspectives are interesting
18:42 - How is that possible, that Klonoa series failed? I've never played volleyball one, but you said it's one of the best multiplayer game on PSX. The main series - platformers are also rock solid and Klonoa 2 even won a GameSpy award for best platformer of the year, yet the series keeps failing over and over at market. Heck, even the new remasters are not doing fine and I think that the game still hold up well for today standards. Maybe it's not to advanced, but it's a nice simple side-scrolling platformer with brilliant music and great story
Failed in terms of sales. There's a reason why everyone is begging everyone they can to buy the new collection. Which thankfully, is selling very well now.
You have answered yourself: "I've never played -volleyball- one, but[...]" No Buts! That's the answer right there.
@@catriamflockentanz huh? They might have lived in the US so they couldn't play the volleyball one
You should make this video unavailable in America.
Lmao
@@GVG do it
great video guys
16:06 - holy shit, I own this... talk about long forgotten games...
I'm just happy that the Americans have any way to play Another Code R: A Journey into Lost Memories in their language. My favourite Wii game and an absolute masterpiece!
This video reminded me of something. People always go on and on about how being a “collector” of physical media is the only way to preserve these games. But the Famicom Disc System was designed to be written over. So even if you secured a Disc with the the label you are looking for, there’s no guarantee it will even have the game you want.
This is the best video made on this channel so far
It's funny that you mention micro computers going strong in Europe because I listen to this gaming podcast hosted by 3 British guys and they always talk about those micro computers with such fondness and I'm just like who uses them? 😂 Crazy how different it was back then
I was kind of hoping to see the fairly good Asterix & Obelix game in here. Really fun 2D platformer that I used to play a ton with my older brother when we borrowed our uncles Super Nintendo.
Obviously you can't have all the EU exclusive games in there (and maybe this did release in the states, although I kind of doubt it), but it would have been cool to see.
Oh I enjoyed Hotel Dusk greatly. The film noir genre, rotoscope art style, and cast of peculiar characters captured my interest. So when I heard Last Window wasn't coming to the States, I asked a college friend who went on an exchange program to the UK to purchase it for me (it's cheaper than Amazon) and I reimbursed him upon his return. It's a great sequel for sure that sheds more light on Kyle himself. I was a tad disappointed that not all supporting characters have their own dark secrets similar to HD, but other fans may find it more realistic than the former's numerous coincidences. And LW's chapters being compiled into an in-game book (with bonus scenes) was a wonderful surprise.
That Speccy video sounds interesting!
I didn't actually expect that Vib-Ribbon was never released in America, considering how many Americans i've heard talk about it.
Loved playing Klonoa beach vollyball with my brother back in the day!
Another Code: R the R stands for "Rubbish" but they didn't release it overseas because they don't use the word "rubbish" there. /s
Just been clicking on this video for Terranigma and I wasn't disappointed :D
Gameboy Gallery 5 in 1 is one of my favourite Gameboy games. I still play it from time to time. It's such a shame that the cart doesn't save my top scores when I reload the cart.
Man, the Buzz games, those take me back. We had those too, dubbed into Swedish. I played them a lot as a kid, though it's been so long I don't remember specifically which ones (other than Monster Rumble, but I preferred the quiz ones).
Thanks for mentioning the Tingle series! As an unironic Tingle enjoyer, I was so let down when Rupeeland got a PAL release and not an NTSC-U release. It took me years, but I finally managed to collect them all- but for Balloon Trip of Love, I got a reproduction cart online of a slightly older version of the fan translation, which admittedly has a bug or two with some text still being in Japanese. I also bought an awesome English language reproduction jewel case for it. As for Balloon Fight- well, I don't really think it needs a fan translation, as I was able to play it with my niece with no problems whatsoever when we went on our camping trip back in May.
Rupeeland is actually quite a fun game imo, even though I suck with the price negotiation. The combat system is a lot like For the Frog Whom the Bell Tolls, so it's like the Zelda franchise came full circle a bit by making that the combat system, and it is still quite Zelda like with collecting items and dungeon crawling too. The Tingle series overall is VERY underrated and I think any Zelda fan worth their salt needs to at least give it a try!
My first console was the Master System II (with in-build Alex Kidd, which for some reason my parents pretended was a really "lucky" thing I should be thrilled about. I mean, I was, so I guess it was probably cute from their perspective...? Anyway...) The first two Sonic Games on the system hold a massive amount of nostalgia for me, so I remember being shocked in the early days of the internet to find very little info about them due to Master System's comparative lack of popularity in the states.
Fun video as always Jon, even after all these years there were some games on here I had no idea about!
Yeah that USK game rating is so big it even shoves the Super Mario 3D All-Stars logo over to the other side of the case.
British Klonoa is adorable oh my god
22:40 Jon Puyo Puyi Fever also came to the PC in Japan.
Cool idea for a video!
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, Doshin the Giant, Maken Shao Demon Sword, Inazuma Eleven series, Case Closed: One Truth Prevails, Fatal Frame 2 Wii, Another Code R, Disaster Day Of Crisis, Siren Blood Curse, Gregory Horror Show, Sailor Moon: La Luna Splende, A-Train 6, Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, The Onechanbara games on PS2, Demolition Girl, Perky Little Things & Leisure Suit Larry Switch (Uncensored versions), Metal Slug 4&5 PS2, Last Window: The Secret of Cape West, One piece Gigant Battle, Chronos Twins, New Little King's Story, Go Go Cosmo Cops, Pokemon Typing, Wipeout HD Fury, Way Of The Samurai 4, Ratchet & Clank Quest For Booty, One Piece: Unlimited Cruise 1 & 2, Deep Water, Breath of Fire 3, Tales of Eternia (PSP), Paparazzi PS2, All Star Fighters PS2 and Wii Chess are some of the games that came out in europe but not america.
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You missed the Sunsoft NES game "Mr. Gimmick". Outside of Japan it was only released in Scandinavia, however Sunsoft has recently announced that the game is coming to Switch. There was also "Ufouria: The Saga", but that one eventually got a Wii Virtual Console version.
I had that gameboy gallery game (I live in the UK) but I do remember there being music.. It had all the same games as the 'first' one too. Maybe there was an updated version or something.
I want to try out Terranigma so bad.
I mean, you can. SNES9x and bsnes are right over there.
Coming from someone who still has my original CIB copy from my childhood, just emulate. If you do play it use a missables guide.
Hey John, perhaps you are not a fan, but the Bomberman series got a bunch of games that North America never did. They are: Super Bomberman 3 (SNES), Bomberman Kart (PS2), Bomberman Hardball (known as Bomberman Battles in Japan) (PS2), Bomberman Story DS, Bomberman 2 DS (known as Custom Battler Bomberman in Japan). All of them were available in Japan, but the European versions are the only way to play them in English. Some of them are really great games (Super Bomberman 3, Bomberman Kart, Bomberman 2 DS) and some of them are Bomberman Hardball.
That one in particular is the weirdest choice out of all of these. The game has the standard multiplayer bomberman battle boards along with 3 bomberman takes on sports. The sports are tennis, golf, and baseball, hence the name "Battles" in Japan. Oddly, they changed the name to "Hardball" for Europe in reference to the baseball part of the game. This is a bizarre choice, considering that Baseball is a sport primarily played in North America and Japan. Practically no one even knows of Baseball in Europe and especially not in 2005. Why not release this in North America with that name??? I guess it has to do with the fact that Ubisoft (a French company) published it for Europe and that Hudson Soft was likely unable to secure a publisher for North America, but had already localized it for the USA and named it. Of all the Bomberman games to export from Japan in that era, I just feel like this was a terrible choice. There were so many that never left Japan and are good games, but Bomberman Hardball gets the nod.
I came to watch the video only to see if Terranigma was in it, and I was not disappointed. Good stuff, lots of interesting games on the list!
15:59 - Jeb!
That’s actually kinda cool!
Gregory Horror Show is another that Ive always wanted to play
0:37 that version genuinely sounds better
I’m so glad this list included Terranigma. It’s an absolute banger of a game. Got my copy in 2000 for a fraction of what it would cost and it’s one of my most treasured games that I’d be reluctant to sell for even two thousand times what it originally cost me.
Cool video :)
Im from Europe and i do own a few EU games never came to NA. I have a complete Terranigma snes, Disaster:Day of Crisis wii, Project Zero wiiu, Breath of Fire III psp, Tales of Eternia psp, Forbidden Siren 2 ps2, Siren:Blood Curse ps3
As a german speaker I loved this video
Vanpool did not make Chibi Robo! That was Skip, Ltd. Vanpool just co-developed Zip Lash.
Came here after the Another Code remakes were announced
Man the way you say Europe was overlooked makes me feel sad as a Brazilian because we were TRULY OVERLOOKED. Even to this day I can count on my hands how many Nintendo games have Portuguese as an option
The Portuguese option is probably for Portugal most of the time despite only having about 10 million people compared to Brazil which has over 200 million.
Oh Everblue was a budget game I bought...because I had the money i think, but I absolutly loved the relaxed athmosphere
I went on a deep dive to find a rom of that version of Mario bros. I loved the arcade game when I was a kid, but I always liked the nes version better because I felt you jumped better. I have since on a raspberry pi, android box, everdrives. Have played nearly every version of it. When you mentioned the jumping being like mario 3 and I never heard of this... I went a looking
Did you end up finding it? I'm trying to find a listing on eBay but all the other mario nes classic games keep showing up
@@Ninetaled i did find the rom.
@@madzpanda oh cool, what was the exact file name for it, maybe it could help narrow my search
@@Ninetaled Mario Bros. Classic (Europe) is the file name.
As someone who only recently bought a bunch of games as I stayed with my girlfriend in Germany, that massive USK rating just ruins some covers. xD And worst thing, it has a pegi rating on top, which is much smaller and less intrusive. Ah well.
Poor Yoshi got kicked off the German Smash Ultimate cover.
Surprised there's no mention of Bomberman 2 here! No, not *that* one, the one for DS. No idea why it was called Bomberman 2, it's nowhere *close* to the second Bomberman game.
What it was is effectively a Bomberman version of Megaman Battle Network: You're a computer version of Bomberman who jumps from network to network busting viruses. You earn EXP between each bomberman stage which you can use to equip different armour pieces you find, and each armour piece increases your starting stats and even lets you start with unique powerup abilities. It even came with the whole DS Download Play standard Bomberman mode that every DS Bomberman game seemed to have for some reason.
Nobody seems to know about it, but it's a really cool Bomberman game!
That terralina combat looks very appealing. Might just emulate it to try it out
Disaster Day of Crisis was the exact game that I thought of when I saw the title of this video.
If you want to play European Master System (and maybe mega drive, I'm not sure) games use a Brazilian console. Brazil uses PAL-M, a 60Mhz version of PAL. That means you will have the color and resolution of PAL with NTSC speed
Also, while the Mega drive and master System aren't region locked some games are and if the game was optimized for PAL will probably run at the same speed as in Europe but games like the european version of Sonic 1 will play at the same speed as in NTSC regions.