This is probably the best truck review on RUclips..and I'm saying this because 98% of the other channels just cram features down your throat in the videos and never show you what the truck can do and how it does it. Great video bruh.
Thanks for the feedback! You nailed the goal of this channel, which is to provide more technical information that is useful for those who need to know how these systems work.
The same people complaining about not having a selectable locker are the same ones that would leave it on all the time and grenade the rear going down the road. GM uses the G80 so there’s 1 less thing to think about while driving. We have enough switches and controls in these vehicles today and that’s just one less thing to think about.
Moab is a good place to test offroad for approach, departure, and break over angles. It's generally a slow speed crawling test, where sand and mud allow for some full throttle fun. Thanks for watching!
@@EngineAdventures it’s just like the Kardashians... no matter what you do, you’ll find a little bit of Kardashian here, a little bit of Kardashian there...
This truck is great for those who don’t want something dramatic like a raptor or Trx but still saves you from getting stuck or slip. Great truck review!
Let's be honest, if you are doing any real off-roading on the regular and worried about getting through it; you aren't using any truck other than a Tacoma. Outside of that you will want a Bronco, Jeep, or 4Runner/older model Landcruiser. This is just for show and for muddin'. Not much else.
@mudcat3434 the Tacoma is a decent off-road vehicle, but there are plenty of others, including full-size trucks, that are very capable. This was one of my first videos and I've tested hundreds of vehicles since then. Check out some of my newer videos to compare the Tacomas I've tested with others.
What I meant by the same as a regular Silverado is that the traction systems are no different. It doesn't have major changes like the ZR2 over the regular 4wd Colorado. Its not a Raptor compared to an F-150 or a Power Wagon to a Ram 2500.
I just had another AT4 diesel last week and it only got around 20 mpg. However it barely had 1,000 miles on it so it probably needs more time to break in.
U westerners are funny lol u guys , 1- deflate ur tires to 8-15 psi 2-turn off traction control + stability track 3- turn off lean position airbags 4- if u r stuck use 4L + deflock BRUH
Not really. For a full size truck it's only a 140 pounds heavier than a gladiator rubicon and 500 pounds lighter than a raptor. They shaved about 400-500 lbs off by switching to aluminum doors, hood and tailgate
Visiting Galveston, TX and watching people bury their vehicles in the sand. Turn off the traction control in these type of environments as you can see it just makes things worse in sand and mud. It brakes the wheel that is spinning which causes the vehicle to stop or push that wheel entrenching it into place.
If you feather the throttle( very lite) sand will eventually pack under tire and you can drive right out. Full throttle and mega wheel spin is not how you drive out of sand.
How much leg room do you have for driving? I'm 6'3, I drive a 2017 Toyota Tacoma, I love it but I can't really stretch out my legs as much as I'd like to, I also have a manual so the clutch pedal tends to be the culprit.
@@offthewallsurfer1 I'm 6' 3" too and have 19 Silverado. You can pull back the seat as much as you can't even reach the steering wheel. Plenty of space. I had a 2009 Tacoma and hated it. I traded it with 30000 miles on it for a 2012 Silverado at that time. That Tacoma was a piece of junk. That was the best decision I made in my life, of course the divorce 🤪
Great Video. Good detail on the 4X4 system. I'm curious to know if the truck cuts power with all the traction control systems off and 4 Low engaged when you pin it in the reverse gear. The Ram 1500 (2016) definitely does. It is annoying and almost got me stuck.
Great question, I don't know the answer. We never noticed it cutting power on us, but I do know that many vehicles are equipped with a high reverse gear and they use electronics to limit the speed in reverse. Personally I'd like a lower reverse gear than first. The old crown vics could do almost 60 mph in reverse.
Guess what my 2018 gmc is at Dobbs right now because Laura Buick can’t figure out why it’s fucked up. Same with the Kia. They just sell trucks. There not sure how to work on them. My 18 van is the same fucking way. And the Kia is a 15 front and back tiers were out of alignment. I mean what the hell. Someone needs to sue the shit out of them M F
We did have a 2.7 liter 4 cylinder turbo Silverado in a work truck trim (not Trail Boss) that had the single speed transfer case. I thought all Trail Boss trucks had the 2-speed, but I might be wrong. Thanks for watching!
Pretty cool I can’t believe that thing has a two inch lift it looks close to the ground that thing must have been dragging on speed bumps stock. I dunno why Chevy would make a Silverado TRAILBOSS that would be a low rider lol.
The video is a little deceiving, the trail boss has 10.8 inches of ground clearance, while the regular versions have 8.2 inches. For reference the regular F-150 has 9.3 inches, the Raptor has 11.5 inches, the regular Ram 1500 has 8.1 inches and the Ram Rebel has up to 10.8 with the air suspension. Of course the approach, breakover, and departure angles are just as important for off-roading as the ground clearance. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Edmunds lists the ground clearance of the Chevy Silverado LTZ Z71 as 10.9 inches. I guess the taller tires make up for the 2 inch lift of the Trail Boss.
It's a tricky game, you don't want to go too much throttle and have the locker slam into place, but you're right, too little throttle and the traction control will kick in enough first to keep it from locking. We found it best to turn off traction control in any offroad situations.
Matthew Barnes even my old 2008 Z71 Silverado is like that. Traction control keeps you from getting in trouble on slick ice covered pavement. But when you know your going off road or through some pretty deep mud or snow the traction control system does nothing but get in the way.
This video does a really good job right at the end of showing how traction control can end up fighting or nullifying the g80 locker by preventing the necessary speed difference to make it lock, which in turn is why it can be better to run off trac go get the g80 to work
Yup, except it creates a hard connection with no slipping clutches that wear out. Once you get some experience driving a G80 it becomes quite controllable. I still prefer a selectable locker.
I do prefer a selectable locker, but the G80 is nice for many situations. My favorite differential design is the Power wagon with a Torsen style limited slip and selectable locker in the rear axle.
The thing is full of clutches (Diff, T-Case)...NO THANKS. I'll take my Rubicon where this thing would only dream of going. AND my Rubicon doesn't have all the stupid clutches to fail.
No clutch in the diff, just T-case. I have had my worries about these clutch based systems. Some seem to work very well, are quite reliable, and should last a long time. Others seem to slip when they are "locked" which will cause a lot of wear and reduce life.
If you hold the button down for a while on this one it turns off traction and stability control. I'm not sure it's completely off, but it does allow for a lot more freedom.
Driving in mixed terrain, maybe be a paved road with patches of snow or ice, you don't have to switch the rear locker on and off repeatedly as the G80 will engage when there is slip and disengage when traction is good. For those less mechanically inclined, it won't accidentally get left on. There are of course lots of problems with it as well. Just depends on what you want.
Doesn't engage at higher speeds. It's either locked or unlocked, there is no limited slip feature. Can't be manually engaged for precise slow speed maneuvers, like rock crawling. Can engage really hard if one wheel is one ice or other slick terrain while the other is on dry pavement, this is especially true when towing. My ideal differential is the Torsen limited slip e-locker in the Ram Power Wagon rear axle. Limited slip for everyday driving with a driver selectable locker.
This truck would have too, but we were trying to get stuck to test the traction boards. The ZR2 is awesome and I hope I'm able to get one to test soon!
Thanks for watching! This was one of my first videos. Anything in the last 2 years should be much better quality. I've gone to a standard testing area, upgraded video and mics and learned a lot along the way. I still have a ways to go, but you should check out one of my newer videos, they are much better!
That’s why needs electronica locker only GM thinks they’re the smartest one and that’s how it’s supposed to be :( this is not a off-road truck it’s a country road truck
No we did not, the goal was to get stuck to do various tests. We actually had to work at it to get stuck, the sand was damp and very cold making it a quite hard. Airing down is excellent advice though for many off-pavement situations. Thanks for watching!
Not sure you watched the whole video. The goal was to get stuck and it was actually quite difficult to do. We have to drive through the sand a bunch to loosen it up. It was cold and wet out, I'd say it took more skill to get stuck than it would have to not get stuck!
What Chevy calls pinion control, is used in any transfer case setting, 2wd, 4wd auto, 4wd high, or 4wd low. In my conversation with a GM drivetrain engineer the amount of brake pressure applied is never enough to simulate a fully locked differential. The tire without traction will always spin more than the tire with. The system applies the brakes to both the front and rear wheels if needed. I will have a video comparison up soon of the Ram vs Ford vs Chevy. Of the three, Ram has the most aggressive braking system and it works quite well.
@@EngineAdventures okay thanks! Toyota's had that year's ago, I used to make fun of them for that it's a cheap way out. Instead of having a traction device in the front diff. Now you'll wear break pads to control traction?!? Unbelievable! I have a 2014 Silverado Z71 that I've spent a lot of time in the sand dunes with, and my tires around 12 PSI. I'll tell you it Rock's in the sand! I am very impressed with the 5.3 torque and climbing abilities! Even racing in four low! It kicks ass with it's factory good year wrangle SR As!!! I'm thinking about a 6.2 trail boss in the future..
@@philllsxga.7737 I always doubted these systems from when they first came out in the 90's Land Rovers up until a couple years ago. Now I quite like the systems and they can handle more situations than most people will put their vehicles in. No additional hardware is needed to run them, which makes them very cheap to implement. Of course for those who do a significant amount of offroading, there are factory equipped vehicles like the Power Wagon, Raptor, ZR2, and Jeep Rubicon models. All these vehicles have e-lockers front and rear except the Raptor which has a rear locker and front Torsen limited slip.
@@EngineAdventures true. Most people will not off road. I do all of the time! I had a 2001 ZR2 that I sold with 252,000 miles on it, I was always off roading in it and never had any problems with the four wheel drive or the G 80! The CV joints were original when I sold it with no issues! That Truck took a beating and never left me stranded in 252,000 miles. My current Silverado has 106,000 problem free miles and I'm in the sand dunes three to six times a summer with it. The drive train works great! The truck is impressive except for the suspension.
Yeah the audio was rough on my first few videos. Honestly these 3 videos with the Trailboss were the first ones I'd ever edited and done voiceover on. I've upgraded my voiceover mic and cameras since then, and hopefully it's a big improvement from where I started.
Hey Dan, I'm not aware of how tapping the brakes would help the G80 lock. It uses inertia from the difference in wheel speed between two wheels on the same axle to engage the pawl and lock the diff, Tapping the brakes wouldn't help this. You may be thinking of the Torsen style gear driven limited slip differentials used in many applications including the Hummer H1. I could be wrong, and I will test your theory out next time I have a g80 to test. Thanks for commenting!
I was able to test this recently. Pushing the brake didn't help the G80 lock from what I could tell. The test was done in a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine. Look for our video of that truck and it's traction systems in the next month or so.
Inertia with weights and clutches are what cause the g80 to lock as stated in the video with rpm difference of 100 or so. Tapping or touching the break does nothing for the g80. That works with limited slips and open diffs.
That would certainly make it more capable off road, but from Chevy's point of view would that translate into enough more sales to cover the cost of development? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@sschevmale24 And honestly the ZR2 is a better trail rig anyway. Remember when the Jeep Wrangler was shorter and skinnier than a Honda civic? Small and light makes off-roading a lot easier in many ways. Obviously running 44" tires with a heavy truck will allow you to go places a stock TJ on 29" tires would not go.
Haha, between my vocal fry and terrible equipment I had when I first started the channel the audio wasn't great. It's much better now! Thanks for watching!
It gets the Z71 package and the lift and Duratracks. The Z71 package includes the skid plates, Racho schocks, hill descent control, low range transfer case, and G80.
@@EngineAdventures Z71 package doesn’t include the locker across the board. It’s an upgrade on certain 21 models now 🙄. Just bought a 21 TB and a 21 Z71 Tahoe. The TB was cheaper and came with the G85, the Tahoe did not. The slightest bit of degree shift in the Tahoe and its 3WD not a 4WD. Have numerous discussions with GM currently about it as it’s very misleading. Things to look out for with GM doing all these ridiculous packages now.
I've kind of tested the new tahoe with the elsd rear, it wasn't on my normal test hill so I can't compare it directly, but it didn't seem nearly as effective as the G80
@@EngineAdventures TFL did a review on it and pointed it out. They have a good video of exactly how bad it is. Very disappointed in GM for pulling that on a 70k+ “off road” vehicle.
It takes 100rpm difference between the rear wheels for the G80 to lock up. Did you guys put it in “Off Road” drive mode? I was just wondering what that mode does. I’m thinking maybe something with the traction control systems. I haven’t gotten a chance to take my AT4 Sierra with the 3.0 Duramax off-road yet.
I actually talked with Chevy engineers about this when I wrote my story on this truck. They said it's roughly 100 rpm difference, and I noticed that sometimes it would lock almost instantly and other times there would have to be a big wheel speed difference. I can't remember if we used off road mode or not, but either way the engineer told me they use pinion control (aka brake based limited slip) to transfer about 20% of power side to side. Meaning they never try for a 50/50 power split. I think you're right that off road mode lessens the computer intervention on reducing engine power.
I probably have covered this in my later videos on similar trucks (GMC AT4). However this truck has an open front differential, it does have what Chevy calls pinion control or brake based limited slip, but it's not very effective.
I haven't checked specifically for that truck, but I'd look at an Eaton truetrac to see if they have one available. I do like Torsen style differentials, especially when paired with a brake based limited slip system. For manufacturers that don't offer lockers a Torsen style should be available!
Yeah, this was one of my first videos. I certainly have some vocal fry, but the mic I had made it way worse. Check out my newer videos, they are much better!
G80 seems good but when one tire is spinning way faster than thee other just sounds kinda rough when it locks up. Do you think it would damage over time or wear out. That’s why I would prefer an electric locker that o can press manually.
The G80 has been out for a few decades and while there have been instances of people breaking them it's not common, especially when compared to the number of them out there. I'd be cautious when towing or hauling heavy in snowy or icy conditions where it could have one wheel on pavement and one wheel on ice. I've actually been in that situation a few times with an 06 Chevy 2500 with the G80 and never had an issue. If you know your truck and how its systems work you can often play to the strengths and avoid the weaknesses. My favorite differential is still a gear driven limited slip (Torsen) with a manual selectable locking feature. This design is in the rear axle of the Ram Power Wagon.
So what are you reviewing/promoting, your plastic boards? Or the truck.. did you air the tires down and turn traction control off? Just curious, personally I’d rather see those methods used before resorting to the boards.
Overall we were reviewing the truck's various traction systems. The traction boards were thrown in to demonstrate their functionality and use. It actually took some effort to get stuck in the sand. While airing down the tires would have helped, and maybe even would have gotten us unstuck a traction board will provide more flotation than airing down, unless of course you have massive tires with a contact patch greater than that of the traction board.
Nearly all vehicles cut power when traction control is enabled. With pickup trucks pushing over 1000 ft-lbs of torque traction control helps keep the vehicle under control and out of a ditch. Most vehicles have a way for the driver to shut it off when they want, which is useful for offroad situations.
This was one of my first videos, I've since made some changes and I have some things planned for the future. Check out my later videos, they are a lot better. Turns out moving my mic away from my face a few inches makes a big difference. Thanks for the feedback!
Depends on how well you know the truck and your driving experience. For off-road it's almost always best to have it off in this truck. On-road it will catch you when unpredicted slides or maneuvers happen.
Myself (f150) and two friends of mine (Dodge and Chevy) go out and play (Stuck truck) down a long cutline and the outcome is always the same Chevy with AT tires is the first one to get stuck almost every time fallowed by myself in the ford with basic all season tires and the dodge almost never gets stuck and he has AT tires its pretty confusing because the chevy seems to have the most clearance out of the 3 and my ford has least and old dodge is somewhere in the middle
I recently had a 2020 Chevy 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine, 2019 Ford F-250 with the Power Stroke, and 2019 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. Both the Ford and Chevy had factory rear differential lockers in them, so I was thinking that they would kill the Ram offroad. Turns out the Ram did just as well if not better than the other two. I should be posting videos on all three of them within the next month or so.
C-Bomb having to wait until 1000 RPM’s for your locker to engage seems to me like something will eventually break. And I’ve never heard of a situation like you just described. I’ve always just used 4 High or 4 All on ice roads with impending curves. A lot of the off-roading I do (and many others) involves crawling over rocks and high-elevation obstacles. You always want to go at a slow, meticulous pace. Having to get your RPM up to 1000 for your rear-locker to engage seems like just trouble to me. The best off-roaders in the world would agree and the best off-road vehicle’s in the world also have manual lockers
C-Bomb lockers can break with a hard, powerful, sudden stopping force. I’ve seen it. And trucks have many purposes. I live in the desert and I encounter obstacles that require me to crawl over large rocks while going up steep inclines. I like the look of the new Silverado, but again, rear locker is a deal breaker. Have a good day
There are lots of features like that which may be patented, like the step in the Chevy bumper. I do like that Chevy made their bed much wider than everyone else, and I'm surprised it took this long for someone to maximize that space.
A lot of what made it seem like it was struggling were the electronic "aids". The truck was empty and did fine, but certainly the 6.2L will be an excellent upgrade, especially for those who tow.
@@EngineAdventures Currently the only way to get the 6.2 with the factory lift is the AT4. The 5.3L 8 speed max tow is 9400 in the AT4. If you go up to the 6.2L the towing drops 100lbs to 9300. I own a trail boss and I towed my 7600lbs travel trailer over 100 miles this past week. It tows very well. The 6.2L is awesome, but it needs premium fuel. The 5.3L is plenty quick with the 8 speed.
@@terrencejones9817 That is true, for 2020 the Trail Boss will be available with the 6.2L, but for now if you want the 6.2L then you have to go with the GMC AT4. There are a lot of factors that go into the tow rating, but in my opinion the power of the 6.2L is much better for climbing grades out here in the Rocky Mountains than the 5.3, even if it has a lower rating. Not saying the 5.3 is a bad engine, it's an excellent engine that returns great fuel economy for the amount of power it has, just isn't as powerful as the 6.2L which is one of my favorite half ton engines.
I had an FX4 F150 with a the Elocker. Small lift and tires. I found the Elocker useless in 90% of offroad situations. Where I live anyplace you need a locker is in tight tree's trails. You can't turn with the rear fully locked. It bangs and jumps around or just binds. It was totally useless in the snow. The G80 allows some slip, which works better IMO.
I haven't had any issues with my E-locker causing issues turning, one wheel will just slip and my turning radius is minimally effected. I drive very tight trails all the time and have only found my E-locker to improve my trucks ability since I had it installed. I personally would rather engage my locker before an obstical instead of relying of wheel spin to engage it and chewing up the track for the guys behind me.
I have a 2010 Tacoma TRD off-road D-4D V8 diesel with a 6 inch lift and 35's, lockers front and rear and I've found that I don't need to use my lockers most of the time, just throw it in first gear and it crawls up and through anything 👍👊
The nice thing about an E-Locker is that you can easily turn it on and off. In most cases I would only turn it on just before an obstacle that would require it. For slick conditions on pavement, you're right a limited slip will be much better than a locker. Ideally you would have both, like the Ram Power Wagon that has a Torsen style limited slip and E-locker in the rear and an E-locker in the front.
@@terrencejones9817 I don't know what to tell you other than my experience is clearly quite the opposite of yours. I went from a factory Torsen LSD which chirped during tight corners in parking lots to an Eaton E-Locker and on road driving has been better since it doesn't try to lock up on tight corners at slow speeds and offroad is a world of difference. I haven't noticed any reduction to my trucks turning radius when the locker is engaged off road but I only engage it on low traction surfaces when it's actually needed so one wheel is able to slip. Selectable is the way to go imo for a multipurpose rig where you want more control over the drivetrain, as I said before it's nice to be able to engage it before climbing some steep rocks instead of relying on wheel spin to engage it then shock loading the whole drivetrain when it does engage.
Chris Cooper Im a Ford fan, but once in a while us Chevy fans and Ford have to come together, especially in times like there where somebody says they would chose a 2006 I MEAN 2019 Nissan Frontier (bc they havent redesigned it in over a decade) over any of car there is in this planet.
@@damariuseaton6678 Since 2013 (in order) I've owned a '13 Raptor, a '15 Tundra TRD Pro, A '16 Rebel (screw air suspension BTW), a '17 Power Wagon, an '18 AEV Prospector XL, a '19 Colorado ZR2 and just yesterday picked up the Trail Boss (ZR2 was just a bit undersized after 6 months). I have no brand loyalty whatsoever, and they all have good/bad qualities you trade off, but the problem I see with buying a Titan, is then you'd have to be seen in it LOL
Chris Cooper Yeah no doubt lol, I really dont see the purpose in buying a Titan. If you want reliability, go for a Tundra, you want something that MIGHT get you to 100,000 miles but will be more luxurious, go for any other truck, but the Titan only has average reliability and about average luxuries like the interior quality and stuff like that. But who am I, i dont even own a truck lmao
@@damariuseaton6678 all of my older Toyotas (86 Fj60, 08 Tacoma) had stellar reliability... my TRD PRO Tundra, not so much. Maybe I got a dud, but it had quite a few return trips to the dealer, but I agree overall.
@@wickedmainah950a small truck with a bigger v8 than most full size trucks and will spin the tires at will is a woman's truck I also have a 2nd gen ram that is actually good for off-road use but I'm definitely not taking my dakota off road considering it has a hard time in the rain lol
@@justadakota1822 even with the rt 5.9 your talking 253 hp 345 lb torque. My 5.3 355hp 383lb torque. In their day they where quick. Decent torque and good power for a midsize. But the late 90s early 2000s trucks don't really compare to the new stuff.
@@wickedmainah950 When you get a chance I have a video on my channel watch it I do agree with you numbers on a peace of paper suggests that new trucks would would out run my truck all day but that's not the case it might be because I have a single cab short wheelbase with a 5.9 and a manual transmission and a 3'92 rear end but I've ran 8.7 in the 1/8 with nothing more than some drag tires and no offense but a stock 5.3 chevy ain't doing what I did in my video sorry. It may have less power but it's also way lighter as well so there's more than just hp and torque numbers to figure out which car is faster or not
Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Independent suspension can provide more ground clearance and a smoother ride for higher speed offroading. A solid axle setup is better for articulation when rock crawling. Most forest and fire roads are easily traversed with either.
The new fords and rams are all IFS (independent suspension), and solid axle rears. No one uses solid axles up front anymore. Every new truck uses independent up front and solid axle rears.
This is probably the best truck review on RUclips..and I'm saying this because 98% of the other channels just cram features down your throat in the videos and never show you what the truck can do and how it does it. Great video bruh.
Thanks for the feedback! You nailed the goal of this channel, which is to provide more technical information that is useful for those who need to know how these systems work.
Ever seen TFL truck??
@@albertosaldana7456 I watch it all the time
@@HighlogBoy I think it's a great channel
Agreed
Would love it if the G80 locker had a manual bypass as well as an automatic.
That's not how that differential works...
Correct, but they could add that feature to it.
Keep your front wheels straight unless you're wanting it to get stuck....but I guess you did want to lol
The Darth Vader of car reviewers.
This guy must do voice-over work as a pilot on every flight I have ever been on...
Finally someone figured out my day job! Haha check out my newer videos the audio is much better.
The same people complaining about not having a selectable locker are the same ones that would leave it on all the time and grenade the rear going down the road. GM uses the G80 so there’s 1 less thing to think about while driving. We have enough switches and controls in these vehicles today and that’s just one less thing to think about.
Couldnt listen to the voice long enough to watch the video..
Beroni B vocal fri. Very annoying
Beroni B same
The Voice talking about the truck at the beginning killing the video the guy in the truck sounds better at talking and also the guy recording
Man I love these new Silverados. Hopefully I can get a RST or trail boss in a few years
You will man patience ,,, I just got mine. Took me a while but it’s possible.
It's been 3 years
You good bro?
@@brenttrent8811 I ended up getting a 2015 F150 Platinum with the 3.5 ecoboost. It has some miles on it but its an awesome truck
Nice to see a review of something in some mudd and sand. I get tired of videos from moab.
Moab is a good place to test offroad for approach, departure, and break over angles. It's generally a slow speed crawling test, where sand and mud allow for some full throttle fun. Thanks for watching!
Nice truck but to many goodies controlling the truck 👎👎👎. All I need is a gas pedal and I do the controlling.
I hope nobody takes this video serious
I think for 90% of people this’ll be fine. If you’re gonna do the rubicon trail every other weekend this probably ain’t it chief
I am so happy with my 2020 TrailBoss!
It's a great truck! Hope it treats you well!
Did that engine take a dump yet?
Wats up with the guy that's doing the over voice omg
Heroin
Welcome to “Crackly-Voice Theatre”
I've made a few adjustments since then, still a little vocal fry here and there, but nothing like it was in my first couple of videos.
@@EngineAdventures it’s just like the Kardashians... no matter what you do, you’ll find a little bit of Kardashian here, a little bit of Kardashian there...
This truck is great for those who don’t want something dramatic like a raptor or Trx but still saves you from getting stuck or slip. Great truck review!
Thanks for the support! Comments really help the channel grow!
Let's be honest, if you are doing any real off-roading on the regular and worried about getting through it; you aren't using any truck other than a Tacoma. Outside of that you will want a Bronco, Jeep, or 4Runner/older model Landcruiser. This is just for show and for muddin'. Not much else.
@@Mudcat3434 bruh really said Tacoma 😂
@mudcat3434 the Tacoma is a decent off-road vehicle, but there are plenty of others, including full-size trucks, that are very capable. This was one of my first videos and I've tested hundreds of vehicles since then. Check out some of my newer videos to compare the Tacomas I've tested with others.
@@Mudcat3434 Actually, you'll have whatever you own, and will have a winch with plenty of trees for anchors or something like a Pul-Pal.
VocalllllllFryyyyyyyyy
Welcome to the Kardashian School of Broadcasting
No offense that voice is annoying
It’s a habit people get in to. Vocal fry. He doesn’t do it when you hear him live on the video. He should stop it.
Definitely not the same as a regular Silverado. It has rancho shocks, 2 inch lift, and the dura trax tires.
What I meant by the same as a regular Silverado is that the traction systems are no different. It doesn't have major changes like the ZR2 over the regular 4wd Colorado. Its not a Raptor compared to an F-150 or a Power Wagon to a Ram 2500.
My 2020 Z71 3.0 duramax I just bought has all this except duratrac tires and it came w it
I recently tested a GMC Sierra AT4 with the 3.0 Duramax and really loved that engine!
@@EngineAdventures I purchased one this summer and love it. So smooth with the 10 spd, average 24MPG, really impressed.
I just had another AT4 diesel last week and it only got around 20 mpg. However it barely had 1,000 miles on it so it probably needs more time to break in.
U westerners are funny lol u guys ,
1- deflate ur tires to 8-15 psi
2-turn off traction control + stability track
3- turn off lean position airbags
4- if u r stuck use 4L + deflock
BRUH
All good points! Our goal here was to show the various traction systems and to get stuck to test the traction boards. Thanks for watching!
Engine Adventures oh ok then that is reasonable keep up the good work
Turn off lean position airbags? How?
DarkPhantom for the trail boss and z71 there is a dedicated button for it
RUclips Last where is this button?
Those damn Silverados have always had good 4x4 systems since the 90s
sammy duran I agree with you!!
That's that G80 system baby!! Lol I'm hype cause I work for Chevy
Niel Tveten well, amazing job because I love my 2020 TrailBoss man!
Chevy is really kind of heavy......not good
Not really. For a full size truck it's only a 140 pounds heavier than a gladiator rubicon and 500 pounds lighter than a raptor. They shaved about 400-500 lbs off by switching to aluminum doors, hood and tailgate
Chevy ZR2 Rear and Front lockers with a switch 👍🤙🇺🇸
Thank you for the review info
The Vermonter
I agree, when it comes to hard offroad driving, GM's most capable vehicle is the ZR2. Thanks for the support!
Highgate vt
put some real tires on it lol
duratracs are super good tires
is bill Belicheck narrating this?
His stoner brother is
Visiting Galveston, TX and watching people bury their vehicles in the sand. Turn off the traction control in these type of environments as you can see it just makes things worse in sand and mud. It brakes the wheel that is spinning which causes the vehicle to stop or push that wheel entrenching it into place.
If you feather the throttle( very lite) sand will eventually pack under tire and you can drive right out. Full throttle and mega wheel spin is not how you drive out of sand.
Love my trailboss but tinting my windows and off-road at night is a bad idea you can’t see over the damn hood and I’m 6’4
John Wesnefski same here bud!!! I’m also 6,4 and have a hard time seeing over the hood in my trail boss.
How much leg room do you have for driving? I'm 6'3, I drive a 2017 Toyota Tacoma, I love it but I can't really stretch out my legs as much as I'd like to, I also have a manual so the clutch pedal tends to be the culprit.
@@offthewallsurfer1 I'm 6' 3" too and have 19 Silverado. You can pull back the seat as much as you can't even reach the steering wheel. Plenty of space. I had a 2009 Tacoma and hated it. I traded it with 30000 miles on it for a 2012 Silverado at that time. That Tacoma was a piece of junk. That was the best decision I made in my life, of course the divorce 🤪
Great Video. Good detail on the 4X4 system.
I'm curious to know if the truck cuts power with all the traction control systems off and 4 Low engaged when you pin it in the reverse gear.
The Ram 1500 (2016) definitely does. It is annoying and almost got me stuck.
Great question, I don't know the answer. We never noticed it cutting power on us, but I do know that many vehicles are equipped with a high reverse gear and they use electronics to limit the speed in reverse. Personally I'd like a lower reverse gear than first. The old crown vics could do almost 60 mph in reverse.
Really nice vid just as good or maybe even better than tfl (the fast lane) truck
Thanks for watching!
Guess what my 2018 gmc is at Dobbs right now because Laura Buick can’t figure out why it’s fucked up.
Same with the Kia. They just sell trucks. There not sure how to work on them.
My 18 van is the same fucking way.
And the Kia is a 15 front and back tiers were out of alignment.
I mean what the hell. Someone needs to sue the shit out of them M F
Is this like the time in 8th grade where I purposely ran my face into the bullys fist, then claim "I meant to do that"!
This guy sounds stoned
Dude, those weren’t Haribo gummy bears
That truck has the 2 speed transfer case that you get with the higher trim level. The lower trim level does not have 2 speed
We did have a 2.7 liter 4 cylinder turbo Silverado in a work truck trim (not Trail Boss) that had the single speed transfer case. I thought all Trail Boss trucks had the 2-speed, but I might be wrong. Thanks for watching!
That's nice off road.
Pretty cool I can’t believe that thing has a two inch lift it looks close to the ground that thing must have been dragging on speed bumps stock. I dunno why Chevy would make a Silverado TRAILBOSS that would be a low rider lol.
The video is a little deceiving, the trail boss has 10.8 inches of ground clearance, while the regular versions have 8.2 inches. For reference the regular F-150 has 9.3 inches, the Raptor has 11.5 inches, the regular Ram 1500 has 8.1 inches and the Ram Rebel has up to 10.8 with the air suspension. Of course the approach, breakover, and departure angles are just as important for off-roading as the ground clearance. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Engine Adventures Subaru has a 8.5 ground clearance
Edmunds lists the ground clearance of the Chevy Silverado LTZ Z71 as 10.9 inches. I guess the taller tires make up for the 2 inch lift of the Trail Boss.
These new trucks look pussy as hell I will stick with my old school trucks
Thats the problem with the g80 the traction control does its damndest to stop it from locking
It's a tricky game, you don't want to go too much throttle and have the locker slam into place, but you're right, too little throttle and the traction control will kick in enough first to keep it from locking. We found it best to turn off traction control in any offroad situations.
Matthew Barnes even my old 2008 Z71 Silverado is like that. Traction control keeps you from getting in trouble on slick ice covered pavement. But when you know your going off road or through some pretty deep mud or snow the traction control system does nothing but get in the way.
Lets get the truck stuck intentionally and then complain about the truck being stuck...
This video does a really good job right at the end of showing how traction control can end up fighting or nullifying the g80 locker by preventing the necessary speed difference to make it lock, which in turn is why it can be better to run off trac go get the g80 to work
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great review! Im dyin waiting for my 2021 Trail Boss to be delivered! 😫
Thanks for watching! This was the first set of videos I filmed, hopefully I've improved a bit since then!
@@EngineAdventures
If this was your first set of videos, and you did an excellent job...im subbin right now. 👍👍
Thanks!!
The G80 “locker” is a glorified limited slip 😂
Yup, except it creates a hard connection with no slipping clutches that wear out. Once you get some experience driving a G80 it becomes quite controllable. I still prefer a selectable locker.
G80 is amazing. Eaton builds diffs for class 8 tractors. Can't go wrong.
The G80 is ok but in some situations it takes too long to engage.
I do prefer a selectable locker, but the G80 is nice for many situations. My favorite differential design is the Power wagon with a Torsen style limited slip and selectable locker in the rear axle.
Looking at reviews it takes a little over 5 secs to engage. Needs to take 2 secs to engage though
The thing is full of clutches (Diff, T-Case)...NO THANKS. I'll take my Rubicon where this thing would only dream of going. AND my Rubicon doesn't have all the stupid clutches to fail.
No clutch in the diff, just T-case. I have had my worries about these clutch based systems. Some seem to work very well, are quite reliable, and should last a long time. Others seem to slip when they are "locked" which will cause a lot of wear and reduce life.
Si fuera mia esa camioneta la cuidaría como mis hijos
I Fckng HATE traction control systems on new vehicles and how you can't really ever turn them "completely" off.
If you hold the button down for a while on this one it turns off traction and stability control. I'm not sure it's completely off, but it does allow for a lot more freedom.
Why is GM so hardheaded about putting an actual rear locker into their half tons?
There are a lot of benefits to the G80, but like you, I prefer a driver selectable rear locker!
@@EngineAdventures benefits? Such as?
Driving in mixed terrain, maybe be a paved road with patches of snow or ice, you don't have to switch the rear locker on and off repeatedly as the G80 will engage when there is slip and disengage when traction is good. For those less mechanically inclined, it won't accidentally get left on. There are of course lots of problems with it as well. Just depends on what you want.
@@EngineAdventures what kind of problems?
Doesn't engage at higher speeds. It's either locked or unlocked, there is no limited slip feature. Can't be manually engaged for precise slow speed maneuvers, like rock crawling. Can engage really hard if one wheel is one ice or other slick terrain while the other is on dry pavement, this is especially true when towing. My ideal differential is the Torsen limited slip e-locker in the Ram Power Wagon rear axle. Limited slip for everyday driving with a driver selectable locker.
The narrator has a great voice for golf or the American Sportsmen videos.
Haha thanks! I've improved my voice recording quality since then and will continue to do so.
I only got 12k miles on the GD thing
ZR2 would've made it through all of this.
This truck would have too, but we were trying to get stuck to test the traction boards. The ZR2 is awesome and I hope I'm able to get one to test soon!
CANT TOLERATE THE VERY LOW VOICE ITS ANNOYING ... SOUNDS LIKE A REPEATING BURP WTF
Thanks for watching! This was one of my first videos. Anything in the last 2 years should be much better quality. I've gone to a standard testing area, upgraded video and mics and learned a lot along the way. I still have a ways to go, but you should check out one of my newer videos, they are much better!
Thanks for the great and very informative video!
Thanks for watching!
That’s why needs electronica locker only GM thinks they’re the smartest one and that’s how it’s supposed to be :( this is not a off-road truck it’s a country road truck
Did you air down those tires
No we did not, the goal was to get stuck to do various tests. We actually had to work at it to get stuck, the sand was damp and very cold making it a quite hard. Airing down is excellent advice though for many off-pavement situations. Thanks for watching!
Well done guys!!
Thanks for the support!
Love it!!!!
Thanks!
Of course chevy getting stuck
GM engineers haven't realized the important ground clearance. and that's no sand. take the truck to the coast for real sand.
Do you honestly think the F-150 would do any better? CMon man.
@@tewksburydriver8624 i guess we need to point him towards the f150 and ram section where they get stuck too.....smh.
get that guy from behind the wheel my girl drives better then him
Not sure you watched the whole video. The goal was to get stuck and it was actually quite difficult to do. We have to drive through the sand a bunch to loosen it up. It was cold and wet out, I'd say it took more skill to get stuck than it would have to not get stuck!
This truck sucks 🤣
In which transfer case setting does the break grap the spinning tire??
Does it grab the front break only??
What Chevy calls pinion control, is used in any transfer case setting, 2wd, 4wd auto, 4wd high, or 4wd low. In my conversation with a GM drivetrain engineer the amount of brake pressure applied is never enough to simulate a fully locked differential. The tire without traction will always spin more than the tire with. The system applies the brakes to both the front and rear wheels if needed. I will have a video comparison up soon of the Ram vs Ford vs Chevy. Of the three, Ram has the most aggressive braking system and it works quite well.
@@EngineAdventures okay thanks! Toyota's had that year's ago, I used to make fun of them for that it's a cheap way out. Instead of having a traction device in the front diff. Now you'll wear break pads to control traction?!? Unbelievable!
I have a 2014 Silverado Z71 that I've spent a lot of time in the sand dunes with, and my tires around 12 PSI. I'll tell you it Rock's in the sand! I am very impressed with the 5.3 torque and climbing abilities! Even racing in four low! It kicks ass with it's factory good year wrangle SR As!!!
I'm thinking about a 6.2 trail boss in the future..
@@philllsxga.7737 I always doubted these systems from when they first came out in the 90's Land Rovers up until a couple years ago. Now I quite like the systems and they can handle more situations than most people will put their vehicles in. No additional hardware is needed to run them, which makes them very cheap to implement. Of course for those who do a significant amount of offroading, there are factory equipped vehicles like the Power Wagon, Raptor, ZR2, and Jeep Rubicon models. All these vehicles have e-lockers front and rear except the Raptor which has a rear locker and front Torsen limited slip.
@@EngineAdventures true. Most people will not off road. I do all of the time! I had a 2001 ZR2 that I sold with 252,000 miles on it, I was always off roading in it and never had any problems with the four wheel drive or the G 80! The CV joints were original when I sold it with no issues! That Truck took a beating and never left me stranded in 252,000 miles.
My current Silverado has 106,000 problem free miles and I'm in the sand dunes three to six times a summer with it. The drive train works great! The truck is impressive except for the suspension.
I almost couldn’t stand listening to this video.
Yeah the audio was rough on my first few videos. Honestly these 3 videos with the Trailboss were the first ones I'd ever edited and done voiceover on. I've upgraded my voiceover mic and cameras since then, and hopefully it's a big improvement from where I started.
If you lightly press the brake when you gently press the gas you will lock the G80 locker in the rear end manually
Hey Dan, I'm not aware of how tapping the brakes would help the G80 lock. It uses inertia from the difference in wheel speed between two wheels on the same axle to engage the pawl and lock the diff, Tapping the brakes wouldn't help this. You may be thinking of the Torsen style gear driven limited slip differentials used in many applications including the Hummer H1. I could be wrong, and I will test your theory out next time I have a g80 to test. Thanks for commenting!
I was able to test this recently. Pushing the brake didn't help the G80 lock from what I could tell. The test was done in a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine. Look for our video of that truck and it's traction systems in the next month or so.
@@EngineAdventures you don't tap the break you have to kind of hold it not really it's supposed to engage the locker it's in the manual of your truck
Inertia with weights and clutches are what cause the g80 to lock as stated in the video with rpm difference of 100 or so. Tapping or touching the break does nothing for the g80. That works with limited slips and open diffs.
Needs a front locking diff
That would certainly make it more capable off road, but from Chevy's point of view would that translate into enough more sales to cover the cost of development? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@EngineAdventures think so the zr2 took off lot of guys dumped Silverados for locking diffs on colorado
@@sschevmale24 And honestly the ZR2 is a better trail rig anyway. Remember when the Jeep Wrangler was shorter and skinnier than a Honda civic? Small and light makes off-roading a lot easier in many ways. Obviously running 44" tires with a heavy truck will allow you to go places a stock TJ on 29" tires would not go.
@@EngineAdventures yes sir. Wish I got the zr2 . Mpg is great
Outstanding video
Thanks for the support!
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
I have the same truck and color. Great video and explanation of the features. 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching, hopefully there was something in here to better help you understand your truck!
Thank you cool 😎 demo
Thanks for watching! I'm hoping to do a bunch more of these types of videos for other vehicles as well.
Did you swallow a frog ?
Haha, between my vocal fry and terrible equipment I had when I first started the channel the audio wasn't great. It's much better now! Thanks for watching!
Rancho shocks too - not just a lift and Duratracks
It gets the Z71 package and the lift and Duratracks. The Z71 package includes the skid plates, Racho schocks, hill descent control, low range transfer case, and G80.
@@EngineAdventures Z71 package doesn’t include the locker across the board. It’s an upgrade on certain 21 models now 🙄. Just bought a 21 TB and a 21 Z71 Tahoe. The TB was cheaper and came with the G85, the Tahoe did not. The slightest bit of degree shift in the Tahoe and its 3WD not a 4WD. Have numerous discussions with GM currently about it as it’s very misleading. Things to look out for with GM doing all these ridiculous packages now.
I've kind of tested the new tahoe with the elsd rear, it wasn't on my normal test hill so I can't compare it directly, but it didn't seem nearly as effective as the G80
@@EngineAdventures TFL did a review on it and pointed it out. They have a good video of exactly how bad it is. Very disappointed in GM for pulling that on a 70k+ “off road” vehicle.
best damn demonstration of real world capability. better than the clowns at tfl (excluding Andre and the Canadian Dad and Son)
Thanks!
Not the same as all the others.....this one is a 4x4
It takes 100rpm difference between the rear wheels for the G80 to lock up. Did you guys put it in “Off Road” drive mode? I was just wondering what that mode does. I’m thinking maybe something with the traction control systems. I haven’t gotten a chance to take my AT4 Sierra with the 3.0 Duramax off-road yet.
I actually talked with Chevy engineers about this when I wrote my story on this truck. They said it's roughly 100 rpm difference, and I noticed that sometimes it would lock almost instantly and other times there would have to be a big wheel speed difference. I can't remember if we used off road mode or not, but either way the engineer told me they use pinion control (aka brake based limited slip) to transfer about 20% of power side to side. Meaning they never try for a 50/50 power split. I think you're right that off road mode lessens the computer intervention on reducing engine power.
Nobody talks about the front diff and what lockers it has if any
I probably have covered this in my later videos on similar trucks (GMC AT4). However this truck has an open front differential, it does have what Chevy calls pinion control or brake based limited slip, but it's not very effective.
@@EngineAdventures i was thinking of sticking a Torsten diff in my 22 TBoss i was wondering if it could be done
I haven't checked specifically for that truck, but I'd look at an Eaton truetrac to see if they have one available. I do like Torsen style differentials, especially when paired with a brake based limited slip system. For manufacturers that don't offer lockers a Torsen style should be available!
Get a Toyota!!!
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Holy vocal fry….
Yeah, this was one of my first videos. I certainly have some vocal fry, but the mic I had made it way worse. Check out my newer videos, they are much better!
G80 seems good but when one tire is spinning way faster than thee other just sounds kinda rough when it locks up. Do you think it would damage over time or wear out. That’s why I would prefer an electric locker that o can press manually.
The G80 has been out for a few decades and while there have been instances of people breaking them it's not common, especially when compared to the number of them out there. I'd be cautious when towing or hauling heavy in snowy or icy conditions where it could have one wheel on pavement and one wheel on ice. I've actually been in that situation a few times with an 06 Chevy 2500 with the G80 and never had an issue. If you know your truck and how its systems work you can often play to the strengths and avoid the weaknesses. My favorite differential is still a gear driven limited slip (Torsen) with a manual selectable locking feature. This design is in the rear axle of the Ram Power Wagon.
So what are you reviewing/promoting, your plastic boards? Or the truck.. did you air the tires down and turn traction control off? Just curious, personally I’d rather see those methods used before resorting to the boards.
Overall we were reviewing the truck's various traction systems. The traction boards were thrown in to demonstrate their functionality and use. It actually took some effort to get stuck in the sand. While airing down the tires would have helped, and maybe even would have gotten us unstuck a traction board will provide more flotation than airing down, unless of course you have massive tires with a contact patch greater than that of the traction board.
Why make a 4wd that cuts horsepower wtf is that good for
Nearly all vehicles cut power when traction control is enabled. With pickup trucks pushing over 1000 ft-lbs of torque traction control helps keep the vehicle under control and out of a ditch. Most vehicles have a way for the driver to shut it off when they want, which is useful for offroad situations.
Pretty great video!
Thanks!
stuck lol
Good video, but the vocal fry on your over dub is hard to listen to.
This was one of my first videos, I've since made some changes and I have some things planned for the future. Check out my later videos, they are a lot better. Turns out moving my mic away from my face a few inches makes a big difference. Thanks for the feedback!
Wow.
Asmr?
How do you disable stabilitrak
Hold down the traction control button for like 10 seconds, it should disable stabilitrak.
When would be a good time to use the traction control.
Depends on how well you know the truck and your driving experience. For off-road it's almost always best to have it off in this truck. On-road it will catch you when unpredicted slides or maneuvers happen.
What side step rails are those???
They were a factory option on the 2019
Myself (f150) and two friends of mine (Dodge and Chevy) go out and play (Stuck truck) down a long cutline and the outcome is always the same Chevy with AT tires is the first one to get stuck almost every time fallowed by myself in the ford with basic all season tires and the dodge almost never gets stuck and he has AT tires its pretty confusing because the chevy seems to have the most clearance out of the 3 and my ford has least and old dodge is somewhere in the middle
I recently had a 2020 Chevy 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine, 2019 Ford F-250 with the Power Stroke, and 2019 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. Both the Ford and Chevy had factory rear differential lockers in them, so I was thinking that they would kill the Ram offroad. Turns out the Ram did just as well if not better than the other two. I should be posting videos on all three of them within the next month or so.
I’d rather have a manual locker
I also would prefer a manual locker, there are many people who wouldn't know how or when to use it. There are benefits to both.
Engine Adventures true. The idea of the locker engaging only at a certain RPM is a deal-breaker for me.
@@danr3545 Thanks for watching and commenting!
C-Bomb having to wait until 1000 RPM’s for your locker to engage seems to me like something will eventually break. And I’ve never heard of a situation like you just described. I’ve always just used 4 High or 4 All on ice roads with impending curves. A lot of the off-roading I do (and many others) involves crawling over rocks and high-elevation obstacles. You always want to go at a slow, meticulous pace. Having to get your RPM up to 1000 for your rear-locker to engage seems like just trouble to me. The best off-roaders in the world would agree and the best off-road vehicle’s in the world also have manual lockers
C-Bomb lockers can break with a hard, powerful, sudden stopping force. I’ve seen it. And trucks have many purposes. I live in the desert and I encounter obstacles that require me to crawl over large rocks while going up steep inclines. I like the look of the new Silverado, but again, rear locker is a deal breaker. Have a good day
Why doesn't Chevy, use the room inside the outside of the bed, kinda like what dodge was trying to do, and it's that for boards, tools, straps, etc?
There are lots of features like that which may be patented, like the step in the Chevy bumper. I do like that Chevy made their bed much wider than everyone else, and I'm surprised it took this long for someone to maximize that space.
Are you talking about the lockable storage compartments on the outside of the bed, like my 2011 Chevy Avalanche has?
@@Artseventy6 yes, storage compartments in the bed.
Dude can’t drive 😂
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Interesting, entertaining
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good vid guy
Thanks! I've still got a lot to learn and improve on, but my newer videos should be much better quality.
This is why I won't buy a Trail Boss until the 6.2L is available on the 2020's....that 5.3 is struggling big time
Drive one. The 8 speed gearing makes a world of difference vs the the old 6 speed.
Terrence Jones the 6.2L comes with a 10 speed. I own one in our Escalade and it’s pure bliss. I’ll wait for it in 2020
A lot of what made it seem like it was struggling were the electronic "aids". The truck was empty and did fine, but certainly the 6.2L will be an excellent upgrade, especially for those who tow.
@@EngineAdventures Currently the only way to get the 6.2 with the factory lift is the AT4. The 5.3L 8 speed max tow is 9400 in the AT4. If you go up to the 6.2L the towing drops 100lbs to 9300. I own a trail boss and I towed my 7600lbs travel trailer over 100 miles this past week. It tows very well. The 6.2L is awesome, but it needs premium fuel. The 5.3L is plenty quick with the 8 speed.
@@terrencejones9817 That is true, for 2020 the Trail Boss will be available with the 6.2L, but for now if you want the 6.2L then you have to go with the GMC AT4. There are a lot of factors that go into the tow rating, but in my opinion the power of the 6.2L is much better for climbing grades out here in the Rocky Mountains than the 5.3, even if it has a lower rating. Not saying the 5.3 is a bad engine, it's an excellent engine that returns great fuel economy for the amount of power it has, just isn't as powerful as the 6.2L which is one of my favorite half ton engines.
I had an FX4 F150 with a the Elocker. Small lift and tires. I found the Elocker useless in 90% of offroad situations. Where I live anyplace you need a locker is in tight tree's trails. You can't turn with the rear fully locked. It bangs and jumps around or just binds. It was totally useless in the snow. The G80 allows some slip, which works better IMO.
I haven't had any issues with my E-locker causing issues turning, one wheel will just slip and my turning radius is minimally effected.
I drive very tight trails all the time and have only found my E-locker to improve my trucks ability since I had it installed. I personally would rather engage my locker before an obstical instead of relying of wheel spin to engage it and chewing up the track for the guys behind me.
I have a 2010 Tacoma TRD off-road D-4D V8 diesel with a 6 inch lift and 35's, lockers front and rear and I've found that I don't need to use my lockers most of the time, just throw it in first gear and it crawls up and through anything 👍👊
@@Thefutur604 not my experience at all. My Ford turned like a welded rear on dry pavement, on any surface that wasn't mud or snow.
The nice thing about an E-Locker is that you can easily turn it on and off. In most cases I would only turn it on just before an obstacle that would require it. For slick conditions on pavement, you're right a limited slip will be much better than a locker. Ideally you would have both, like the Ram Power Wagon that has a Torsen style limited slip and E-locker in the rear and an E-locker in the front.
@@terrencejones9817 I don't know what to tell you other than my experience is clearly quite the opposite of yours. I went from a factory Torsen LSD which chirped during tight corners in parking lots to an Eaton E-Locker and on road driving has been better since it doesn't try to lock up on tight corners at slow speeds and offroad is a world of difference. I haven't noticed any reduction to my trucks turning radius when the locker is engaged off road but I only engage it on low traction surfaces when it's actually needed so one wheel is able to slip.
Selectable is the way to go imo for a multipurpose rig where you want more control over the drivetrain, as I said before it's nice to be able to engage it before climbing some steep rocks instead of relying on wheel spin to engage it then shock loading the whole drivetrain when it does engage.
I dont get why chevy didnt put 33" tires on the TrailBoss.
Also why do you sound like you're congested, hungover, and exhausted all at once.
If they did people like you would ask why they didnt put a 34" tire on it.
33" is a more common off road tire.
Chevy sucks I owned one 👎 you want to off road get a pro-4x
wish RUclips had the laugh emoji as an option, because this is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
Chris Cooper Im a Ford fan, but once in a while us Chevy fans and Ford have to come together, especially in times like there where somebody says they would chose a 2006 I MEAN 2019 Nissan Frontier (bc they havent redesigned it in over a decade) over any of car there is in this planet.
@@damariuseaton6678 Since 2013 (in order) I've owned a '13 Raptor, a '15 Tundra TRD Pro, A '16 Rebel (screw air suspension BTW), a '17 Power Wagon, an '18 AEV Prospector XL, a '19 Colorado ZR2 and just yesterday picked up the Trail Boss (ZR2 was just a bit undersized after 6 months). I have no brand loyalty whatsoever, and they all have good/bad qualities you trade off, but the problem I see with buying a Titan, is then you'd have to be seen in it LOL
Chris Cooper Yeah no doubt lol, I really dont see the purpose in buying a Titan. If you want reliability, go for a Tundra, you want something that MIGHT get you to 100,000 miles but will be more luxurious, go for any other truck, but the Titan only has average reliability and about average luxuries like the interior quality and stuff like that. But who am I, i dont even own a truck lmao
@@damariuseaton6678 all of my older Toyotas (86 Fj60, 08 Tacoma) had stellar reliability... my TRD PRO Tundra, not so much. Maybe I got a dud, but it had quite a few return trips to the dealer, but I agree overall.
You only got stuck because Chevy can't make a car worth a shit that's why.
Dakota is a womans truck.
@@wickedmainah950a small truck with a bigger v8 than most full size trucks and will spin the tires at will is a woman's truck I also have a 2nd gen ram that is actually good for off-road use but I'm definitely not taking my dakota off road considering it has a hard time in the rain lol
@@justadakota1822 even with the rt 5.9 your talking 253 hp 345 lb torque. My 5.3 355hp 383lb torque. In their day they where quick. Decent torque and good power for a midsize. But the late 90s early 2000s trucks don't really compare to the new stuff.
@@wickedmainah950 When you get a chance I have a video on my channel watch it I do agree with you numbers on a peace of paper suggests that new trucks would would out run my truck all day but that's not the case it might be because I have a single cab short wheelbase with a 5.9 and a manual transmission and a 3'92 rear end but I've ran 8.7 in the 1/8 with nothing more than some drag tires and no offense but a stock 5.3 chevy ain't doing what I did in my video sorry. It may have less power but it's also way lighter as well so there's more than just hp and torque numbers to figure out which car is faster or not
@@wickedmainah950 but I do agree still can't compare them new trucks have become so much better for sure
I'm a hunter u really think that them chevy can compete wit solid axel in off road like ram and Ford seen your vids chevy street crawlers
Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Independent suspension can provide more ground clearance and a smoother ride for higher speed offroading. A solid axle setup is better for articulation when rock crawling. Most forest and fire roads are easily traversed with either.
The new fords and rams are all IFS (independent suspension), and solid axle rears. No one uses solid axles up front anymore. Every new truck uses independent up front and solid axle rears.
That's true of the 1/2 ton and smaller truck market, but for 3/4 ton and up, both Ford and Ram 4wd trucks have solid front and rear axles.
@@matthewbarnes1063 don't matter is the body hits before the axles.
@@EngineAdventures Really? Thats neat, I thought they used IFS with torsion bars.
The voice is annoying .
Looks like a Tundra .
79medic
That’s a good thing, probably doubles the resale value of this truck
@@kylechrestman6955 naw tundras and all japenese trucks are but ugly