ACC vs iRacing MAIN DIFFERENCE

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  • @KayagamiYT
    @KayagamiYT 10 месяцев назад +2235

    Acc: 10€
    iRacing: a Kidney

    • @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm
      @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm 7 месяцев назад +43

      Imagine when you wanna do real life racing

    • @jamietyler5288
      @jamietyler5288 6 месяцев назад

      @@NguyenNguyen-fe3gmusually if your good enough to even bother sponsors help out

    • @benjioffdsv
      @benjioffdsv 6 месяцев назад +87

      IRL: 500k/year not including crashes

    • @EKORtheFIRST
      @EKORtheFIRST 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@benjioffdsvbut the racers aren’t paying if I’m not wrong

    • @mqxogames
      @mqxogames 6 месяцев назад +46

      @@EKORtheFIRST The racers are absolutely paying in hobby racing and low level competition racing, above that maybe if youre with a team you'll not have to pay for stuff like that but even that's unlikely until you get into proper professional racing.

  • @itzshummy101
    @itzshummy101 Год назад +3102

    Thats the thing, in ACC, all you really have is the modern GT3 cars so its not an issue

    • @thechode7394
      @thechode7394 Год назад +117

      Real life telemetry rarely has much overlap between steering inputs and 100 percent brake pressure. Looks like with the new update it’s been improved upon but acc physics are still not there yet.

    • @UknowPark
      @UknowPark Год назад

      ​@@thechode7394👍

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Год назад +40

      @@thechode7394 That's because in real life 100% is usually something like 150bar. In ACC it seems to be maybe half of that. I don't think the torques even reach a 100bar equivalent, it was pretty much unusable with a 90kg-ish brake pedal.

    • @snakezula
      @snakezula Год назад +137

      @@thechode7394 They had a real GT3 driver test out ACC and he said it was very accurate, how many GT3's have you driven in the real world?

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Год назад +80

      @@snakezula they had jardier the sim racer drive the lambo gt3 and he said its also very similar in feel to acc, and the sounds were dead on.

  • @tonygeddes9558
    @tonygeddes9558 Год назад +1726

    iRacing also requires a second mortgage. . .

    • @sucharsharma5725
      @sucharsharma5725 Год назад +5

      hahaaa

    • @Jc3Films
      @Jc3Films 10 месяцев назад +24

      No it doesn’t. Also if this is the closest thing you will get to driving a real race car across the world for 15 bucks it’s worth it.

    • @jameswhiting3543
      @jameswhiting3543 10 месяцев назад +114

      @@Jc3Filmsthat gets you one track… You’re talking over 1500 for all the content and let’s remember it’s a game at the end of the day, not saying its a bad game but it’s obviously a complete rip off.

    • @stvnlp
      @stvnlp 10 месяцев назад +56

      @@jameswhiting3543Yep, having to buy an expensive subscription to get a few cars and tracks is just dumb

    • @nekaa7657
      @nekaa7657 10 месяцев назад +16

      ​@jameswhiting3543 realistically, are you really going to frequently race on EVERY SINGLE TRACK in EVERY SINGLE CAR? Are you realistically going to drive more than 3 or 4 cars on more than 6 different tracks because half of the ones used in a season are free? Realistically, are you sure you don't already spend way more than $11 a month on other subscriptions?

  • @iwillnoteatzebugs
    @iwillnoteatzebugs Год назад +1156

    Well acc is only gt3 so that s normal behaviour

    • @_antwonTT6
      @_antwonTT6 Год назад +10

      Uhhh... No.

    • @iwillnoteatzebugs
      @iwillnoteatzebugs Год назад +67

      @@_antwonTT6 uhmm yes?? Irl gt3 behave like that

    • @_antwonTT6
      @_antwonTT6 Год назад +12

      @@iwillnoteatzebugs acc isn't only gt3 is what the reply is about.

    • @baswesten796
      @baswesten796 Год назад

      ​@@_antwonTT6 yeah, so its not possible in the gt4 you dummy think for ones

    • @briarios666
      @briarios666 Год назад +5

      ​@@_antwonTT6 acc has more than just gt3 acc comp is only gt3 I believe

  • @vinny9152
    @vinny9152 Год назад +337

    ACC is a product. iRacing is a service.

    • @ryomaprime3130
      @ryomaprime3130 Год назад +14

      But I’m afraid iRacing owns both service and product

    • @ThBlueSalamander
      @ThBlueSalamander Год назад +13

      Iracing is more of a product than proud realism.

    • @ryomaprime3130
      @ryomaprime3130 Год назад +4

      @@ThBlueSalamander If iRacing is much about a product, then it makes other sim more bit of Arcadish~

    • @saulcr839
      @saulcr839 Год назад +24

      ​@@ryomaprime3130 The main point of iRacing is the racing system . In realism I think there are Sims that offer better pack of physics, ffb , etc...

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-lf7du3ci4c peepoo neva oversteer in iRacing like irl.. not realistic at all

  • @nakazonegamestreaming896
    @nakazonegamestreaming896 10 месяцев назад +41

    Well ACC is almost an exclusive GT3 Sim so it is understandable.

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 Год назад +70

    Ok you’re not going to touch on slip physics? The most game breaking part of iRscing and one of the things that makes ACC so great? The fact one reacts as a real car would and the other turns into an ice simulator

    • @MM-mx8sr
      @MM-mx8sr Год назад +3

      Not snymore.

    • @samdajellybeenie14
      @samdajellybeenie14 7 месяцев назад +13

      Slip physics? You mean the thing that makes ACC cars feel like they’re floating?

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 5 месяцев назад +7

      This hasn't been true for years. Stop repeating bullshit over and over.

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@opmike343 Not like the Devs haven't acknowledged this them selves for the last 4 years and been updating it almost every year lmao

    • @ogregod3225
      @ogregod3225 5 дней назад

      @@opmike343you ever had your car in real life oversteer? Now have you had it lose control on ice? If yes to both then after playing assetto corsa and feeling how the car slips on dry asphalt compared to say a really wet asphalt is really similar to how it feels in real life. On dryer surfaces you can feel the friction of the wheels on the ground even while it’s slipping and losing control because the tires are always fighting for grip but on ice friction is basically out the window, which is how it feels irl too. The problem with a lot of games is they just think that any time tires lose any sort if grip they become 100% frictionless for some reason and slide out in ways that you cannot expect to happen irl

  • @afdelta0120
    @afdelta0120 Год назад +240

    The acc model also allows you to tune how much brake pressure you use. Meaning 100% input isnt 100% braking.

    • @jmccoy96jm
      @jmccoy96jm 7 месяцев назад +2

      😂

    • @lukeskywalker3839
      @lukeskywalker3839 7 месяцев назад +23

      That happened at normal AC but the fact is that IRL ABS works just like that
      You can even turn corners at 100% braking without blocking depending on the braking bias you have
      I am an supercopa driver so I can confirm that the behavior of ACC cars is realistic but about cars like f4 cuz I tested an NACAM f4 car it feels almost the same way than in Iracing
      Both simulators are FIA certified
      IDK why people argue that much

    • @afdelta0120
      @afdelta0120 7 месяцев назад

      @@lukeskywalker3839 i know. Same time each car is a little different. And most cars will lock if u steer and brake. Which... im guilty of. So... I just reduce break pressure by like 6-7% and try to be cautious. Mind you, im on controller.

    • @Ifyasmell
      @Ifyasmell 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@afdelta0120”I’m on a controller” makes everything else you’re saying irrelevant.

    • @GiJoe94
      @GiJoe94 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Ifyasmellthe fact that it's an option is enough, he might be on a yoke for all I care

  • @dadhats
    @dadhats Год назад +230

    my irl track car def prefers to brake like you do in iracing. I have a pretty aggressive brake pad that actually engages the abs if I were to brake to 100% pressure

    • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
      @mohammedsalimahmed5230 11 месяцев назад +45

      ACC has GT3 cars only where you're meant to apply 100% braking in real life.
      So, GT3 cars are unrealistic in iracing.

    • @RYVENANT
      @RYVENANT 11 месяцев назад +17

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230 you can still exceed the ABS threshold in real life, which is what is portrayed in iRacing. iRacing punishes a lot more for excessive ABS use, but ACC doesn't punish enough for excessive ABS use. Neither are spot on realistic, so the assertion "GT3 cars are unrealistic in iRacing" can be applied just as equally to ACC.
      It comes down to driver preference. Daniel Morad, for example, races GT3 in real life and stated the braking in iRacing GT3 feels more like the real deal.

    • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
      @mohammedsalimahmed5230 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@RYVENANT fair enough, there's a British driver that races for McLaren (GT3) and he prefers ACC. So it's down to preference/individual experience.

    • @marijn17s
      @marijn17s 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230GT3 drivers have said before that the braking in ACC is unrealistic lol

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230
      Uh, ABS is far better than just the human foot but you NEVER want to smash down the brake pedal. You still brake normally and ABS ensures that you don't skid.

  • @6vitamin
    @6vitamin Год назад +6

    This is super important, and I struggled in places until I understood it. Obvy I watched onboards and saw the pedal work, but until I understood this from spending time in iRacing (mostly W12/W13) and watched dev blogs and read ACC documents, eracers, I struggled MIGHTILY in places like Hungaro.
    so THANK YOU for spreading the word,

  • @directed_by_fab3374
    @directed_by_fab3374 Год назад +107

    Not according with that. Acc wants you to brake at 100% but if you're playing it realistically, you will always lock up your wheels when braking in acc. And, you are more efficient in acc braking like in I racing.

    • @Diamond-ji2gv
      @Diamond-ji2gv Год назад

      ​@@T1mischief true but its too hard.

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 Год назад +23

      @@T1mischiefhe missed a lot of things. He says this is the most major difference. When for me it’s slip physics. In ACC you can lock up or blow a corner and keep racing. In iRacing you slide on ice for 10 miles before you lose any speed by slamming into a wall or spin like a top. It’s a good sim when you have grip. But one of the WORST sims when you lose it. Accept on open wheel

    • @Kretunio
      @Kretunio 8 месяцев назад +3

      Not to mention you'll cause a flatspot in ACC by locking the wheels and not hard to do with ABS off.

    • @pk7549
      @pk7549 7 месяцев назад

      You had to give it away didn't you?

    • @valfar9999
      @valfar9999 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah that's what I was thinking as well, slamming the brake pedals with the ABS at like 1-2 or 3 makes you lock up sometimes
      It's way better to just trailbrake and don't rely too much on ABS (or maybe I'm doing something wrong but it works better for me)

  • @treygates4636
    @treygates4636 Год назад +73

    So does that mean that the ABS system for ACC GT3 Cars is more realistic than in Iracing GT3 Cars?

    • @kbonics25
      @kbonics25 Год назад +30

      ACC only has GT3 and GT4 classes, so it can focus on dynamic braking physics for 2 classes of cars.
      Whereas, Iracing has multiple classes to its required to simulate their braking physics.

    • @AKK5I
      @AKK5I Год назад +16

      Yes.

    • @Daz555Daz
      @Daz555Daz Год назад +14

      The latest update for GT3 in iRacing made it far more like ACC. You can pretty much smash the brakes now in iRacing in GT3.

    • @bmwM3M5M6
      @bmwM3M5M6 Год назад +3

      @@Daz555Daz yes you can but it doesn’t make you any faster, that’s also the point of the video…What’s your opinion about this ?

    • @Daz555Daz
      @Daz555Daz Год назад +21

      @@bmwM3M5M6 if real GT3 drivers are smashing the brake and letting advanced ABS systems handle it then sim racing should reflect that. I'm glad that ACC and now iRacing are replicating this aspect of GT3 racing more accurately (assuming that's the case).

  • @deontedumas3130
    @deontedumas3130 9 месяцев назад +7

    I know this isn't a tutorial but this helps so much. I break on some corners at 100% playing Assetto and I got a good handle on the car but I lose speed, glad to know I just need to mess around with the brakes a little

    • @magicshrooms666
      @magicshrooms666 6 месяцев назад

      Load cell pedals may also help if you don't have them already

  • @gtrob8711
    @gtrob8711 Год назад +28

    Someone needs to show gt7 creator about balancing with weight transfer.

    • @BigRascal
      @BigRascal 9 месяцев назад +16

      GT7 isn’t meant to be a super realistic simulator. They have to make it somewhat accessible for “bad drivers” so it can sell. It’s Sony’s flagship racing title

    • @priyam352
      @priyam352 9 месяцев назад +4

      gt7 is meant to be more accesible the original physics model for when gt first came out was made with years of researsch and was too realistic so since then they have been toning the realism down to make it easeier for controller players and just bad drivers

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 8 месяцев назад +4

      For real. . . It's so annoying how stiff the cars are and how they don't turn under deceleration. You're supposed to get MORE steering when you free up the tyres from braking and accelerating, not understeer off the F'in track.

    • @igorlopes8638
      @igorlopes8638 7 месяцев назад

      Gt7 dont enter this world, they are for boys

    • @lukeskywalker3839
      @lukeskywalker3839 7 месяцев назад +1

      Gt7 is arcade
      GT saga realism died in GT6

  • @c0deg0ld78
    @c0deg0ld78 7 месяцев назад +13

    I personally enjoy IRacing. It’s the best simulator in my opinon and if you have a job then I have no complaints about it. It shouldn’t spark a argument between sim racers globally. I don’t understand why can’t we just all enjoy our sims and get on with life. 😂😭

  • @layerdballoonswe
    @layerdballoonswe Год назад +100

    And also a kidney for iracing 😂😂

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 Год назад +5

      @layerballoonswe so your kidneys sell for less than $1500 thats what the content costs for everything amd thats without the 20% over a certain amount of content. Ive been driving iracing for 6 years and only spent about £500 on content.

    • @jameswhiting3543
      @jameswhiting3543 10 месяцев назад +22

      @@Simlife101”only £500”😂😂

    • @Brennenm97
      @Brennenm97 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jameswhiting3543much cheaper than a real weekend of even practice. And after putting tons of hours into all the different Sims. Iracing is the most competitive especially when u get through the lower splits. It becomes amazingly competitive compared to others. League racing is the only way to play ACC or AC with that type of fun which is fine too 😊

    • @Barbatoslol
      @Barbatoslol 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@Simlife101 meanwhile ACC... 11.99$

    • @angryasfman9077
      @angryasfman9077 8 месяцев назад +1

      wont reach 100$ even if you buy all the dlc.

  • @hericmartinez
    @hericmartinez 6 месяцев назад +1

    I can't really brake 100% in ACC, I feel like when the ABS engages the car just doesn't slow down as quickly, so I end up carrying a lot of speed at turn entry, understeering and losing the apex.

  • @saku0207
    @saku0207 Месяц назад +2

    If you turn off ABS or have low settings in ACC and break 100% into a corner you won’t be fast. Another big difference is the tyre model..

  • @metalhead6604
    @metalhead6604 Месяц назад +10

    Its almost like ACC is simulating a modern gr3 😮

  • @jeremystarnes3160
    @jeremystarnes3160 7 месяцев назад +1

    Acc is also a game based on said gt3 cars with amazing abs systems

  • @quocphu2826
    @quocphu2826 7 дней назад

    Bought ACC, play it with mouse and keyboard is my new way to training endurance for pain

  • @tentons10
    @tentons10 11 месяцев назад +1

    Having gone from ACC to a Ferrari challenge, my driving style and adaptation were fine IRL. I do think that knowing about threshold braking rounds out any issues the sim doesn’t cover though.

  • @DJZander303
    @DJZander303 3 месяца назад

    This is whats definitely making me slow in iracing, with most of my hours in ACC. Im not used to the not 100% breaking. Causing me to look up,starting out, and now just overall slower now that im getting used to it.

  • @jhatgotagat300
    @jhatgotagat300 18 дней назад +1

    Wait so a sim for modern gt car has exactly what modern gt cars have?

  • @MostRandomYTChannel
    @MostRandomYTChannel 24 дня назад

    acc : 15$
    iRacing : your whole life savings

  • @KC16A6
    @KC16A6 10 месяцев назад +2

    VERY good points except that if you want to get better ar driving... you SHOULD try to brake hard without ABS now and then, and especially with different vehicle configurations

  • @georgesantana3888
    @georgesantana3888 7 дней назад

    Not to mention ACC Evo is about to come out

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 2 месяца назад

    Suellio, I tried to outbreak someone off the straight in MX5 this week Virginia North turn 1. I had to purchase some stopping power by downshiftiwoth my breaking just before lockup. It was all too much and I blew my engine lol.. I didn't know I could do that lol

  • @LIRGECACORSEGT
    @LIRGECACORSEGT 8 месяцев назад

    I lock up in abs, and im 0.5 from aliens

  • @seebarry4068
    @seebarry4068 8 месяцев назад

    Good comparison

  • @T.K.9
    @T.K.9 9 месяцев назад +1

    It makes sense cause ACC got GT3's.
    Iracing I love too but that monthly sub kinda annoyed me. Not forgetting that you have to buy the tracks and cars you want.

  • @Pabosqeaks
    @Pabosqeaks 10 месяцев назад

    Assetto should really come out with a free roam map that you can drive any car on while also having their racing sim mode, it’s a little hassle having to download all these mods, but I mean it’s still fun

  • @trailingrails9953
    @trailingrails9953 13 дней назад

    I feel like reality lies halfway between the two styles.

  • @bigriggc5828
    @bigriggc5828 4 месяца назад +1

    I love your videos and have learned and watched a lot, but when I play Assetto Corsa the wheels lock up very easily if you do 100%. Is it because I’m not doing competicione? I have had to learn trail breaking and brake pressure especially in the Tattus because it will lock up like expected.

    • @ToyotaMotorola
      @ToyotaMotorola 3 месяца назад +1

      ACC and AC are completely different games. ACC has different physics and is based almost exclusively on GT cars. AC has all types of cars, especially when modded. AC also has older cars that don't have ABS or only very light ABS. Smashing the brake can and will lock up your brakes in AC or lead to understeer if done improperly

  • @mds0802
    @mds0802 Год назад +5

    Hey Man, i really enjoy ur content, may u give us a bit of tips for the upcoming nordschleife 24 hours to get a better laptime
    Cheers

  • @codefk8711
    @codefk8711 2 месяца назад +1

    iracing is superior in most levels, but ACC has it's gems. Even RaceRoom kills it with their shifts (you feel it in the wheel)

  • @FaiLoYut
    @FaiLoYut 3 месяца назад

    @SuellioAlmeida Question then: how does braking in ACC without ABS compare to iRacing?

  • @SmolMiot
    @SmolMiot 29 дней назад

    Considering ACC focuses on GT3 racing it’s really accurate

  • @Sauron.1
    @Sauron.1 Месяц назад

    Try braking like you would do in a GT3 but do it in a BMW M2 CS in ACC. And you will find out that the braking is different depending on what car type you are driving.

  • @BWB_Cubing
    @BWB_Cubing 11 месяцев назад +1

    Assetto corsa (the normal one) feels like its more popular than acc
    How shoudl you breka in normal assetto corsa

  • @shawn4559
    @shawn4559 9 месяцев назад +1

    I mean doesnt gt3 and gt4 series have abs and traction control? If so, i mean thats the cars spec. Makes sense. With iracing you have varieties of many different racing series that doesnt use assists like abs and traction control

  • @valfar9999
    @valfar9999 7 месяцев назад +1

    You guys brake at 100% without trailbraking in ACC ? I thought you were suppose to avoid triggering the ABS as much as you can
    I mean, I honestly don't know and I'm far from being fast but I always brake way faster by doing this than slamming the brake pedal without gauging anything

  • @RickBonadiooficial
    @RickBonadiooficial 16 дней назад

    Trail brake is very real on ACC

  • @MattO109
    @MattO109 Год назад

    Even in the older AC i notice that if Im more aggressive with my breaking in GT3 cars its not the same and I always lock up my rears. Similar setups Ive chocked it up to poor ABS in the old games because once I stopped slamming down to 100% it stops

  • @TheMatziking
    @TheMatziking 7 месяцев назад

    So which one is realistic in terms of GT3? I would say its ACC from in regards of you clip.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 6 месяцев назад

    Is this a new thing with the modeling? I started on iracing back in 2010/2011 and i would hit 100% in the old Star Mazda and then trail it off effectively. No lock ups.

  • @mariuseybers4094
    @mariuseybers4094 12 дней назад

    so what is the issue? acc is focused on gt3? so what is your point??

  • @caaarlos
    @caaarlos 28 дней назад

    And what about GT4 and GT2 in ACC? there are other physics to look at

  • @tarekmoneimsaid
    @tarekmoneimsaid 3 месяца назад

    Ah, so just like New Star GP xD
    I like that game, very fun

  • @hamzterix
    @hamzterix Год назад +20

    Thank YOU!
    That's exactly what I noticed right away when ACC was released years back. Now ACC is the only sim I take seriously and spent most of my simracing hours.

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 Год назад +10

      @hamzterix but its not realistic. Irl you go into abs then come out instantly and fine tune the last bit of pressure. Your just used to playing a game not a real sim so it have game traits. Take the training wheels off and come over to IR

    • @hamzterix
      @hamzterix Год назад +7

      @brummiedeano7703 You must be a Pro. I've been a member of iRacing (ice-Racing) since 2009. I also own the original AC, ACC, rF2, Automobilista2 , RaceRoom, etc... Every sim has couple flaws, it's up to people to choose which one they wanna tolerate.

    • @connorhind8907
      @connorhind8907 11 месяцев назад +13

      ​@Simlife101 lmaoooooooooo this is funny. Telling him to take the training wheels off and come over to a real sim. How is that rain going over in Iracing? Such a realistic simulator without one major pattern of weather

    • @kurok1tenshi
      @kurok1tenshi 11 месяцев назад

      @@Simlife101 Here comes the snob elitist, ACC allows you to change the brake pressure, allowing one to brake at 100% without hitting the 100% brake pressure or, if you want, even without hitting the ABS system, the reason why iRacing won´t release another updated engine that can do way more is cause of elitists like you that can´t criticize what they buy and justify it with insults to the competition while selling a kidney to buy all the content...i bet the next insult is that ppl that don´t play it are all poor and don´t have the means.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 8 месяцев назад

      @@connorhind8907
      That's because you don't race in the rain. . . at best, you'll race if the rain is light, if it's any more than that, you're not racing unless you like crashing.

  • @bcraftr
    @bcraftr 8 дней назад

    Does asseto corsa standard work the same as acc?

  • @EverythingSim
    @EverythingSim 2 месяца назад

    Do you coach people on ACC?

  • @NiederDrifts
    @NiederDrifts 10 месяцев назад

    So is acc more realistic on braking for gt3 cars? And then iracing is more focused on it’s braking physics for downforce and cup cars with no abs?

  • @ArchOfficial
    @ArchOfficial Год назад +2

    There is no such thing as "100% braking" in a real system. so I wouldn't really look at pedal inputs too much unless you know what line pressures and wheel torques the sim is outputting.

  • @joeyvanwinkle8791
    @joeyvanwinkle8791 Месяц назад +10

    Acc is a gt3 Sim so why wouldn't they brake like gt3 abs systems?

    • @Bands247
      @Bands247 Месяц назад

      Hahahaha that’s exactly what I say. 100% brake pressure every corner is not realistic at all

  • @reptileracing
    @reptileracing 8 месяцев назад

    what is more realistic with ABS? ACC or iR braking?

  • @timothyprovost7573
    @timothyprovost7573 Год назад +2

    Biggest difference is the price.

  • @TomoShiroEU
    @TomoShiroEU Год назад +1

    Yes and No.
    With the most recent Tiremodel in ACC it is more effective to not go 100% on the Brakes.
    It's still a viable way to decellerate, but it is now slower and punishing on the Tires to go 100% on the Brakes.

    • @aquaxbat
      @aquaxbat Год назад

      How would you describe your braking now?

  • @shaunster2
    @shaunster2 4 месяца назад

    So it’s better to turn abs to 12 or change the break pressure to 50%

  • @ay1ai146
    @ay1ai146 11 месяцев назад

    What about gt7 could u do some video about gt7 :)

  • @NeoGeo822
    @NeoGeo822 10 месяцев назад

    Whag about threshold braking 🤔 I use it in ACC which isn't always optimal but its very consistent.

  • @bluetube4248
    @bluetube4248 4 месяца назад

    Makes sense honestly cause ACC literally is modern GT3 cars only

  • @jakehiggins5118
    @jakehiggins5118 5 месяцев назад

    Hopefull when AC2 comes out they'll have some sort of ranked multiplayer system that will compete with iracing. We need more competition to iracing so maybe they'll stop charging an arm and a leg

  • @hwarangitf
    @hwarangitf 20 дней назад

    what about AMS2?

  • @redleaderracing
    @redleaderracing 10 месяцев назад

    What about GT7? Because that has an ABS setting on/off

  • @TheGameboy57
    @TheGameboy57 9 месяцев назад +1

    So what you are saying is that acc, which is a gt3 simulator and only a gt3 simulator (to my knowledge), simulates modern gt3 cars the way that they are irl and is closer than iracing for modern gt3 cars, and that iracing, which is a motorsport simulator for pretty much all kinds of motorsport, is realistic but not always perfectly accurate to the specific car

  • @hoodedcreeper2465
    @hoodedcreeper2465 Год назад +2

    I always drive with tc and abs turned off anyway. Sure abs will allow you to 100% brake without lockup but its slower than just braking at the correct threshold. Abs also makes it difficult to learn what that threshold is.

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat 11 месяцев назад

      yes, i neva use ABS or TC either. i hate it

    • @daggerfighter
      @daggerfighter 10 месяцев назад +8

      Fact is, good abs is always faster if you drive it properly, electronics here is better than the best human by far + allows for unequal braking force left and right tyres which is impossible without the abs -> more grip available for braking. So it's modelled in AC the way it's supposed to be. Fun factor and learning-wise of course no aids is the best.

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat 9 месяцев назад

      @@daggerfighter it maybe 'faster', not always, + u need to know n 'always' check da performance without it, cuz if u dont, u missing mo

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@daggerfighter ahem...
      First i completely agree with what you stated but one thing i need to say
      You can have unequal brake force without ABS and thats called 2 brake pedals and I know it exists, some Hillclimb cars here in Germany have such crazy things

    • @daggerfighter
      @daggerfighter 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, talking about normal cars of course@@supmo68

  • @riccardoferrero2536
    @riccardoferrero2536 10 месяцев назад

    Well.. since gt3 cars use abs it's kinda normal to have it, on assetto corsa there are cars without it. +You can set abs 0 and you will block if you brake too hard

  • @fedorsamokhin4495
    @fedorsamokhin4495 2 месяца назад +1

    In real car, belive me I do races on karts and cars, 100% brake application initially and then slow release is also better than do 80% application. So ACC does everything just right

  • @SwigerQ86
    @SwigerQ86 4 месяца назад

    Braking is a breeze in AC

  • @mulletbubbles9909
    @mulletbubbles9909 3 месяца назад

    is you have assetto corsa go into the car folder and turn up the braking force

  • @p.a.16motorsport27
    @p.a.16motorsport27 5 месяцев назад

    Difference between Iracing and Rfactor2?

  • @benh392
    @benh392 21 день назад

    Is this comparing the same cars though? If ACC's ABS for GT3 is accurate then does that mean iRacing's is not?? I've only played ACC so I cant compare

  • @nfapeng187
    @nfapeng187 13 дней назад

    I like ACC i got it for free pretty much man!! it was like 10 bucks with all DLC's. I love it!! Never got to try the other one tho.

  • @marcopanetta5927
    @marcopanetta5927 10 месяцев назад +2

    U tellin me that acc is more similar to the reality compared to iR?

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 8 месяцев назад +1

      Money =/= realism
      that said ACC focuses on a few classes of cars which all behave very similar. They are all GT Cars while IR has literally everything
      ACC has real Data thats also not outdated and takes drivers for testing. Just look up what Misha Charoudin said in his latest Insta Post about ACC.
      Also ACC really looks into details and is way more realistic than you think i show you an example by Aris Drives a physics developer for Kunos Simulazioni:
      ruclips.net/video/PFxIZ-9Awj4/видео.htmlsi=JdjGIKMtya61vy3r
      In Iracing i always felt like I was not connected to the road and always sliding around and that cant be realistic either and also one mistake and your tyres are completely gone, which doesnt make a lot of sense.
      In ACC you can work the tyre

  • @majesticthenerd
    @majesticthenerd Год назад

    What's the BGM called?

  • @abbadon894
    @abbadon894 Год назад +5

    It makes me sick in every racing/simracing/car related comment section. It's brAking not brEaking, brAkes not brEaks. Please guys, use english properly

    • @bmwM3M5M6
      @bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

      @Abbadon Eye for detail 👍 😃

    • @MarkNOTW
      @MarkNOTW Месяц назад +1

      Oh give us a brake.

    • @abbadon894
      @abbadon894 Месяц назад

      @@MarkNOTW That was funny actually 😂

  • @jjawertyjj
    @jjawertyjj 2 месяца назад

    i racing toyota gr98. most best laps with full 100% abs pressure brakes

  • @DeidrichSmith
    @DeidrichSmith Год назад

    Well, idk if this is a good thing, even though I'm new, I recommend other new players to enable the brake assist to make you not lock up

  • @Patoshik23
    @Patoshik23 2 месяца назад

    So does it mean that I should turn off ABS in ACC if I want to grow a more realistic approach for breaking?

    • @Without3
      @Without3 Месяц назад +1

      Noooo!! Gt3 cars have abs and tracion control, it is normal to use it

  • @scrappy8494
    @scrappy8494 Год назад

    from what i know/heard from real life drivers. the braking model is better on ACC since you have to go quite deep into the ABS to find time in the braking zone

    • @MM-mx8sr
      @MM-mx8sr Год назад

      Some drivers said that you dont go that deep into abs

  • @mcda_b0556
    @mcda_b0556 11 месяцев назад +1

    Well, i don't see the problem knowing ACC is basically GT3 sim racing

  • @backmarkerbob
    @backmarkerbob 2 месяца назад

    IRacing's braking is its most accurate feature

  • @ltpdanius425
    @ltpdanius425 6 месяцев назад

    idk when I am playing acc I think I never turn on 100% brake because car will not turn it just understeere so idk how much of this is true

  • @shepherdrm8486
    @shepherdrm8486 Месяц назад

    Yeah cuz kicking it fully in abs the entire time really improves your times ..😂

  • @-Envixity-_-
    @-Envixity-_- 2 месяца назад

    Does this only apply to Cars with abs on or even with it turned off

  • @rankisdumb214
    @rankisdumb214 2 месяца назад

    Ive never played Iracing but i find not engaging the ABS in ACC is faster.....Yes you can slam on the brake but many people are using 1 or 2 ABS settings which will allow you to lock up the tires. Especially if they are cold.
    The biggest thing in ACC is "CORE" tire temperature.. You can have your PSI perfect but if the "CORE" tire temperature is too low you're losing a ton of grip and braking performance!
    When you get that CORE tire temperature perfect in ACC the cars drive amazingly! Most people dont realize their tires core temps are too cold this costing them lap times!
    Having the core temperature just right can make a full second per lap difference using identical inputs!
    Hungaring, Valencia, Barcelona, Spa, and Weather tech are prime examples!
    I used to struggle at Weather Tech on the first half of the track. Once i got my core temps right i was down in the low 1:22's. But if the core temperature isnt right its easy to drop to the 1:23.5-1:24
    Both Barcelona and Hungaring are the same way. Tire temps Right 1:43's comfortablely. Wrong 1:44's
    Valencia is another one. So much relies on corner exit. In order to do 1:30 consistently the tires must be in the window...Outside the window and its 1:31-1:31.8. that extra tire slip kills lap times.. Paul Richard 3rd sector is like that too! If you wanna get down to the 1:53's or better the core temperatures much be right.
    Even with the broken Physics model the ACC tire model is pretty good! Especially when the track is greasy or green!
    Thats another thing no one really seems to take advantage of! Starting races at green for free practice into Qualifying and working up to optimal. Green and optimal can easily be two seconds different per lap..

  • @under6977
    @under6977 10 месяцев назад

    So that leads me to ask, which one more realistic? Or they both equal in opposite direction?

    • @chogpamp123
      @chogpamp123 4 месяца назад +1

      They definately both have strengths and weaknesses, but iRacing has much more variety and better physics overall.

  • @mugzei163
    @mugzei163 10 месяцев назад

    But you also can't feel the abs system in your brake pedal like you can in real life cars so why would acc makes it better for ease of use

  • @mrbungle3310
    @mrbungle3310 6 месяцев назад

    Real life is more forgiving,but i think the iracing technique in irl open wheel cars works...max verstappen drives like that irl...look at him now

  • @thecooljohn100
    @thecooljohn100 8 месяцев назад +1

    Some dude really said: "Well, iRacing is expensive, but if you think about it it's way cheaper than if you owned a real race car and took it out for track days."💀yeah nice logic

    • @trevor4533
      @trevor4533 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, because it is 😂

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 8 месяцев назад

      @@trevor4533 yeah but that still doesnt take away the fact that Iracing takes away your kidney for some league Racing and racing some "cars" on a screen

    • @trevor4533
      @trevor4533 8 месяцев назад

      @@supmo68 Sure, if you want to race literally every single car and track, it is obviously quite expensive compared to ACC. Buy the yearly black Friday renewal deal(which by the way is live right now), cars and tracks in bundles for a discount, and get your participation credits, and it can be quite manageable for anyone with a job.

  • @chayseiico8348
    @chayseiico8348 Месяц назад

    Du kannst bei den Linien einfach auf die Rate schauen. Wenn der Steinbruch zB.: 400 Tonnen produziert brauchst du auf der Linie eine Rate von 400 dann passt das genau

  • @ysimracing
    @ysimracing Месяц назад

    So question arise. Which one is realistic?

  • @thecooljohn100
    @thecooljohn100 8 месяцев назад +1

    In response to some sad old bloke defending iRacing and the company's wallet as if they gave a shit about him or even knew who he was lmao:
    There's plenty of life service titles that have operated for close to a decade or more all the while not requiring every single player to spend hundreds of dollars on it every year for them to be able to just experience the game in totality. You can make the argument that people don't need every single track or every single car, but that's besides the point. At the end of the day the developers charge those prices because they know they have a unique product with not much competition. The playerbase is letting them get away with this. If everyone stopped buying cars/tracks and cancelled their subscriptions, they'd be forced to drop their prices immediately.
    Dude really said "well if you think about it it's way cheaper than going on actual track days".... as if that's an adequate defense of a game with one of the most aggressive monetization models in gaming💀

  • @JamesHartnell
    @JamesHartnell 9 месяцев назад +3

    However, high Downforce cars do allow very heavy initial brake application but you have to bleed off the pressure as the grip/DF reduces.

  • @PlatinumAgar
    @PlatinumAgar 10 месяцев назад +1

    I never liked how the braking in assetto works

    • @Laffsatyou
      @Laffsatyou 7 месяцев назад

      Because it's trash. Full brake, full throttle, full brake, full throttle. Boring as fuck

  • @jester3265
    @jester3265 Год назад +7

    I've never braked 100% and held it going through any corner, ACC will NOT allow you to do what you have said.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Год назад

      u can learn to trail brake

    • @jester3265
      @jester3265 Год назад +1

      @@kaizer2k2
      I've got trail breaking almost mastered, though none of my driving is consistent yet.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Год назад

      @@jester3265 consistency comes with practice, pick one car and two track and spend a lot of time just trying to get close to alien pace.
      What you said earlier is not true at all, I almost always use 100% braking application. Either you're braking to early or you're not pushing your car enough.
      Perfect example would be Monza T1, requires 100% braking after you pass the 150 board, you trail brake in carrying your speed for exit.
      Play solo or online races and forget about trying to come first or on podium. Just focus on completing the race without a crash or spin on your end. Also be mindful of your tire temps during the end of the race as they get hot and can cause the rear to step out.

    • @jester3265
      @jester3265 Год назад +1

      @@kaizer2k2
      Hiya, im really lucky as i can practice 3hrs+ a day.
      Oh I totally agree that we use 100% braking and Monza is a great example however, I meant that we don't brake 100% through or on the entry to corners on ACC as it is just not possible My mistake as I didn't explain myself properly.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Год назад +1

      @@jester3265 ahh yes that you are correct about, we do not use 100% braking into the corners.

  • @billcranston3882
    @billcranston3882 28 дней назад

    So ACC is more realistic for GT3 cars then?

  • @charliebeckey6269
    @charliebeckey6269 Год назад +22

    Daniel Morad on his channel said when he races his real life gt3 you initially trigger the abs but then back off slightly so you are just below the threshold. Apparently you don't always stay deep in the abs **his words not mine**

    • @SuellioAlmeida
      @SuellioAlmeida  Год назад +10

      I agree with it! But in some sims it will be faster for some reason

  • @fruitygranulizer540
    @fruitygranulizer540 20 дней назад

    well it works for ACC because it's exclusive to modern GT3 cars