WHAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE ABOUT GOING VEGAN? - Doctor Reacts
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- Veganism has exploded in popularity, especially among younger people. But is avoiding all animal foods really better for your health and for the environment? 🥦🐄 Regenerative agriculture requires animals for restoring and rehabilitating the soil, and keto & carnivore diets are highly effective for improving health. So what’s the truth? Find out from Dr. Westman.
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As a farmer of many decades I can say unequivocally that growing plant foods causes much more environmental damage than growing animals. Even growing forage crops for animals that are not raised on natural pastures is not as reliant on chemical inputs as are vegetable crops.
You ain't a scientist.
Who's eating more plants 100 billion land animals + 1.5 trillion fish in aquaculture or 8 billion humans ?
How does the Amazon produce soil without spotted cows with udders that hit the ground ?
@@julienfroidevaux1143 no, I am a farmer with more hands on experience than any of the scientists who have been on my fields.
@@Gail-ux2ly Sure you've been on a plane and know better than pilots how to fly a plane .
@@Gail-ux2ly How much herbicide and pesticides on coconut or watermelon?
The biggest myth about veganism is the belief that the incomplete proteins of plants (grains, legumes, vegetables)can be combined (i.e. beans and rice)to equal the complete amino acid pattern found only in animal products.
"Eating ass" 😂😂😂 I had to rewind to make sure i heard that right
me too lmao
Hearing Dr. Westman read "Eating Ass: What happens when you eat someone's butt." out loud, just made me like him so much more than I already did. 😂 My favorite RUclips doc is not a stick in the mud!
If you want to help the environment shutdown all junk food manufacturers
good idea!
100%!!!!
Yep it’s that simple
Imagine all the waste that is produced by packaging. If someone is a carnivore or a vegan, they are definetly both contributing to less waste. I think humans in general buy unnecessary things with packaging. That's why I'm more of a minimalist carnivore. One bag of candy with individually wrapped candies. It's like ok ruin your health and the environment simotaniously lol
Dr. Paul Mason from Australia mentioned in one of his videos that Belgium law rules that if parents place their kids in a vegan diet they can go to jail for up to 2 years. Does anybody know about this? Why are other countries not doing the same?
family custody law. government will not weight in family issues basically
Expensive supplements made of chemicals and labelled as natural and vegan/vegetarian friendly often contain harmful fillers, toxins, and carcinogens. My decades of experience with the plant-based diet and taking supplements initially made me feel good but resulted in gaining fat weight, losing muscular strength, developing hypertension, NAFLD, arthritis, prediabetes, and mental health issues such as unexplained frequent irritability, aggression and suicidal ideation, as well as full-blown T2 diabetes, and had to rely heavily on medication to address these health issues. And still, I did not feel any better, and the biomarkers worsened.
Long story short, ditching plant sugars, plant oils, and plant materials in my diet and replacing them with Animal Source Food helped me reverse all my conditions.
Thank you, Dr. Westman and other doctors, for promoting a ketogenic carnivore diet for optimal metabolic health.
Here in Reality the average Vegan does statistically better than the average animal eater and Vegans have the lowest risk/rates of diabetes and even peer reviewed clinical proof that proper Vegan eating habits can actually help reverse diabetes but hey this guy typed a RUclips comment so just ignore all that reality...
Plus make sure you ignore that here in Reality the vast amount of supplements contain animal ingredients (aka are not Vegan by default) so it certainly isn't the small percentage of Vegans using the vast majority of supplements it's animal eaters keeping the billion dollar supplement industry in business and using the vast amount of supplements but don't let that basic common sense reality come into play either...
Oh and don't forget to ignore that there is objectively no such thing as a physiological human carnivore too...
I mean if you're going to play pretend this much you might as well growl like a lion and go all in at this point... ;-)
*I had very high blood sugar I only managed to improve my health when I found a WONDERFUL treatment, if you want to know about it, I left the video in the comment reply*
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So what.
I tried vegan but could not feel satiated. I still love fruit and vegetables. It’s been difficult for me to forgo starchy foods but I have to for glucose control.
I ate a vegan diet very consistently for 5 years, and found that it did not seem to affect me one way or the other. I took b12 and other supplements, which I had done for many years before that, and drank unsweetened soy milk because of the higher protein. In 2021-2022 I started reading about the attacks on farmers, blaming them for ‘climate change’, and decided to start eating animal foods to support farming. I can’t say I’m either more or less healthy now, but I’m happy with my decision to eat animals, although it’s mainly salmon and other fish, eggs, bacon, a little pork, chicken and hardly any red meat - I was never a big meat eater anyway. I still drink soy milk as I think the estrogenic effects are probably good for me as an older female. Now trying to focus on lowering carbs as much as possible.
I'm still a vegan but I noticed the same thing.
My body doesn't seem to care if I get my proteins plant or animal based.
My body does care if I eat processed junk.
The main problem I have with my diet is people assuming I'm a left-wing radical, I don't have any problems with my health.
Fruit and veg has the highest food waste at 45%. Plus fibre is largely undigested and passes straight through into the toilet. Instead of transporting thousands of plant products from all around the world you only need one super food: local grass fed meat products.
Too true. My simple eating now means no more throwing away rotting veg.
Excellent reminder of an often forgotten fact.
Since I became carnivore, my poops no longer stink. My wife thanks me !
It would be interesting to see this system feeding 8 billion people a year.
80-90 billion plant eating animals need a lot of land (some of it rainforest) to grow their food.
One psychologist said most of her patients are vegetarians or vegans!
All the old people I know who are in their seventies and eighties, eat a whole food diet, lots of meat and animal fat, fresh fruits and vegetables, and fish , they were old enough to know better in 1979 that eating high carb low fat was bullshit! My Grandfather was a farmer, he laughed at the recommended dietary advice, wheat and grains are what we give to cows and pigs to make them Fat!
True!!! Also what did they replace fat with? Sugar!!!
Yep..! UR Grandfather - a Very Wise Man...! 🙂👍 -70SomethingGuy
My father's family lived in southeastern Wisconsin and sold milk from dairy cows. The dairy cows only ate corn or grain in the winter when they needed the extra calories to stay alive. Barns were not heated and they were cold. Not quite as cold as outside but close. Also fresh alfalfa is not available in Wisconsin in the winter. I think that the cattle also were given some dried alfalfa in the winter, but I admit that may be wrong about that.
The dead ones who ate that way you'll never know.
Thank you Dr Westman for speaking on this subject. I know for certain that the more vegetables I eat, the worse I feel. Also it makes me hungrier.
I've never met a vegan who didn't swear that they will outlive non vegans every time... What I find telling about that is I have been working With elderly people for decades and you rarely see Vegans past mid 70s... Very very few... I'm wondering maybe they don't survive things like falls/ hip fractures very well due to osteoporosis.? I don't know but if being vegan made you super human one would think you'd see a lot more of them in the older age groups..but you don't.
To be fair, veganism is a relatively recent phenomenon so maybe the next few decades will provide more evidence-if they live long enough.
Dr Ellsworth Wareham 98
Dr McDougal 76
Caldwell Esselsyn 90
Neal Bernard 70
Dean Ornish 70
And there are more.
Appreciate your experience. Makes sense.
@@Joy80JJ5 out of billions.
@@Joy80JJ Dr Ellsworth ate fish. Are any of the others strict vegan? For how long? How could you possibly know? Humans aren't herbivores. We don't possess a multi chambered stomach or an enlarged cecum to ferment plant material and utilise cellulose. If you are going to live solely on plant material having either one of those organs is absolutely essential as is the ability to digest and utilise cellulose. Omnivore doesn't mean you can choose either meat OR plants. Any mammal that cannot digest cellulose must eat other animals to be healthy. This is a biological fact that humans are not exempt from.
Hi Eric, really looking forward to your chat with Peter. My ration (I'm AG TRAINED) in Peters' language is largely carnivore with minimal carb intake which has my GP quite perplexed, but he is learning from me. Onward ever upward. Best regards and many thanks for your work. AJ
Whenever I eat lots of veggies my arthritis INFLAMES!
Last night I ate rice for the first time in 15 months. My reflux came back with a vengeance today and I completely forgot about it for 15 months. Well that's the end of my experiments with a ton of carbs 😁
Too many veges and grains are horrible for IBS sufferers. I eat no grains and some veges/fruit and that has made a huge difference.
@@thewordrules Go completely carnivore for a while and your IBS will be completely gone.
@@ManchoManchev I quit carbs in late June and have not had a single recurrence of "bloody" acid reflux since then. It's like a miracle.
@@Miraak1868 absolutely
Veganism is a self-correcting problem, honestly. I used to worry about my vegan friends, but I've found they will all just eventually end up becoming sick after a few years and won't have any choice but to eventually give it up. The difficulty is that when those health problems occur, will they be self-reflective enough to figure it out? I hope so.
Too true. Logical.
I have a vegetarian friend who's so sick. She's aged way beyond her age. She looks so frail. She's one year older than me but looks probably 15 years older. I don't think she'll ever eat meat.😢
I have always said that the greatest argument against the theory of veganism is simply the practice of veganism.
@@michaelcohen2760 body not needs many things what is, told ( sold in view form ). i am not against meat. take care
Even if they dont. Its their choice to ruin their health. Sad, im in the same position as you.
Before watching the video my answer: that it has anything to do with health 😅
I ate vegan for five years after I retired. All the arguments about animal welfare, the environment, etc. were interesting, but I got into it because eating rice and beans was affordable for me -- after paying my rent, there wasn't much of my Social Security check left over for everything else. I think there are no doubt people who do well with eating that way, but I think it was not beneficial to my metabolic health. Now that I've found a more reasonably priced place to live, I am eating low carb to see what I can do to be healthy.
The last time I tried a vegan diet my methane production went the roof! Namaste 😅
The biggest lie is that no animal death or cruelty is necessary for the production of the vegan diet. There is often just as much if not more animal suffering necessary for the production of 'plant-based products'. Pesticides poison, harvesters eviscerate. Even when the animal in question is beneficial and even necessary for the vegan food, there is unfathomable amounts of death and suffering. Take almonds, for example, a vegan staple around the world (think of all the almond milk and almond flour used for vegan foods); in just a few short months between 2018 and 2019, over 50 billion bees died in the US as a result of commercial beekeeping practices when used to pollinate the almond crops. 50 Billion, with a B. That's more death than all other animals raised for slaughter combined, including fish! It was more than 7 times the entire human population.
The second biggest lie is that it's healthier, or even healthy, period. It is impossible to stay healthy on a solely vegan diet long-term for adults, and it's even worse for the young or old. You require a cocktail of pills and supplements just to fill in the nutritional void, and kids and toddlers unfortunate enough to be born to parents willing to force this onto them develop far worse issues and diseases when compared to kids who don't eschew animal products. There is also no evidence of weight-loss benefits when compared to animal-based diets of similar type (i.e. any diet compared to the Standard American Diet results in short-term weight loss, there is nothing unique about vegan diets in terms of weight-loss benefits).
And the third biggest lie is the exaggerated environmental impact of animal farming and the complete denial of environmental impact of plant farming. Huge percentages of land are not and will never be suitable for sustainable farming of crops for humans, but are perfectly able to sustain grasses for animals to graze upon. They both feed into the same system, it would be ecological suicide to demand the cessation of one and the complete reliance on the other. You can't have plants without animals, you can't have animals without plants. Few things are worse for the environment than industrial monoculture-crop farming, which is where the vast majority of vegans get their diet from. And that's with the tiny percentage of voluntary vegans today, they want to forcibly push this diet onto every human on the planet...just think how much environmental devastation would be necessary to provide it.
-from an ex-vegan
(1) I am on a vegan diet: I eat vegans. They're weaker; they're slower; they're easier to catch. Technically, it is impossible to be a true vegan. Organically grown plants require either manure (which comes from animals) or organic fertilizer (which is made from ground up shrimp shells). So, if your plants aren't vegan, neither are you. (2) I could listen to Dr. Zoe Harcombe all day. She's brilliant. I learn something new every time I listen to her. (3) Is vegan healthy? You could eat a plate of French fries and potato chips, wash it down with a sugary carbonated beverage, and have Oreos for dessert. Is that vegan? Yes. Is it healthy? Most would say "No". (4) If vegans have to supplement, then by definition their diet is insufficient.
hahahahha "I eat vegams. They're weaker; they're slower; they're easier to catch."
m8, that comment could break the internet!! :)
"If your plants aren't vegan, then neither are you." Oh, man. I like that.
@@darkpatches lol thx
@@georgetosounidis5545 lol thx
@@Wings_nut I am so tempted to make a little terririum with little terrarium picket signs that say, "Meat Is Murder!" and "Got Vegan!" being held by little terrarium plants which are surrounding a Venus Flytrap.
In my experience, I'm yet to find a vegan who understands ANYTHING about agriculture. Its a symptom of urbanisation ( total separation from food production) and Disnification (all animal are cute, talk to you ... except for all the animals killed by monoculture cropping)
Your comment reveals you have extremely limited experience and knowledge on these subjects then... ;-)
I think small farms are fine, but that isn't where most meat and dairy comes from in my country. Having some chickens is totally fine. Having so many chickens (18 to 20 a square meter) that you can't clean the floor and they all stand in their own poo until they get harvested is just awful. The problem imho isn't eating meat. It's the way mass production works.
We are high on the ranking of exporting the most meat and dairy btw so please take that into account.
@RaceLever no, you can't discount my experience. I'm a farmer who has tried to explain to folks who steadfastly don't want to know. The majority of vegan are idealistic young urban women with absolutely no idea of the environmental cost of THEIR diet, don't know the difference between 'agricultural land' and 'arable land'. They are cynically misinformed by folks who should know better but it doesn't fit their agenda.
I was keto following you and Casey for 3 years. Then moved in with my vegan kids to help with a new baby. She's 6 now... and guess what... my kids and me (at 69) are incorporating a lot more protein. I've always enjoyed you Dr. Westman. I followed Dr. McDougall (The Starch Solution) for 6 years. I really am enjoying MEAT again! *smile*
You can incorporate more protein without harming animals to devoir them so I'm not sure why you're smiling about eating harming more animals... ;-)
@@RaceLever Well…the Creator of the Universe killed animals to clothe the naked Adam and Eve after they sinned in the garden. He’s okay with the killing of animals for food….I will take my queue from Him on what’s okay to eat since He kind of like…made EVERYTHING.
@@WilliamFluery ... Weird how you seem to understand that according to the bible things like humans killing each other and humans devouring animals was the result of sin entering yet still can't figure out where you're dropping the ball there...
Even if I let you presuppose the Bible this won't go the way you think and there is much in the Bible that will oppose the narrative you attempt here...
There is already nothing you can cherry pick in the Bible that can change the fact that what I stated about the Bible is factual and already opposes your claims about it... ;-)
@@WilliamFluery. He must be very proud of his industrial animal agriculture system. Antibiotics and misery for the win!🥇
how did you do on the starch? did you ever check your glucose? really curious.
Thank you, Dr. Westman!
I just keep shaking my head at the Vegan push. Us Keto supporters need way more proof to switch tacks. Thx Doctor Westman for your ‘balanced’ approach. More balanced and healthy than Veganism, in my perspective.
Veganism is the balance...
You're so off balance that you don't even seem to understand that you animal eaters don't own ketosis...
Vegans can go into ketosis if they choose and can even do Vegan Keto Diets... Although since ketosis is clearly your body's "emergency back up system" and not its primary preferred mode of operation (so there are known prices to pay for it) so I'm not sure why anyone "relatively healthy" would do it either way especially long term, but either way you animal eaters don't own ketosis... So you seperate Veganism From Keto in a false way since it does not have to be a one or the other thing , it can be both... ;-)
Both are rigid and flawed, while I find keto way more convincing most people I know never stay on them due to all the restrictions.
The statistic that keeps me up at night is that we will be out of topsoil in 60 years (from the Smithsonian) at the current rate of loss, primarily the result of monocrop agriculture and its runoff. This seems more imminent than the worst predictions of climate change. The proponents of plant only nutrition better double down on alternative methods of farming if we want to feed the world's population with plants. I just don't see it.
We should rather double down on cattle who graze and regenerate the soil.
Let’s, the three of us, buy some cattle and DO IT!!! Where should we buy land? 😀
@@hugoanderkivi I agree. I just don't see it happening in the light of how powerful the propaganda is. It makes me very sad.
The destroyed soil cannot hold water and crops require huge amounts of water that dries up rivers. Modern plants have a fraction of the nutrients compared to 1920s because of damaged soil. Agriculture destroys lush natural Forrest to grow crops which gradually turn the land into deserts.
@@WilliamFluery Haha, why not.
Vegans would be shocked how a cow's digestive system works! And since humans can't do what cows do so we eat meat instead!
Yes, I eat a plant based diet. I just let the animals eat the plants for me and turn it into usable food for me first.
Carnists would be shocked to see how a lion gets it's steak and since humans can't do what lions do to get it we should eat plants instead...
It's funny how this is the level of argumentation you are using yet you think it's Vegans that can't grasp how a cows digestive system works or other realities when you can't even grasp a human isn't a cow anymore than a human is a lion...
Animal Eaters might be shocked to find out that here in Reality humans are actually Apes and it's quite clear that Apes thrive on Vegan foods... They can get by and other things in a pinch at a price but it's still quite clear that Apes thrive on Vegan foods... ;-)
@@RaceLever I guess you didn't watch/listen to the whole thing. Humans are not like apes. Our gut is totally different.
@@ronaldlenz5745 ... I guess you don't realize that here in Reality humans are objectively %100 scientifically classified as an A P E species... Nothing here changes that objective fact... So you're way off... ;-)
@@RaceLever 89 non human primate species are active predators. What difference does our classification as 'apes' have in the argument for veganism? We diverged from our last common ancestor with chimpanzees (our closest relative) at least 5 million years ago. We lost our ability to digest cellulose. We have no specialised organ for that purpose. If you are going to live solely on plant foods (and no mammal actually does when you do a little research) you need a multi chambered stomach or an enlarged cecum.
When I tried vegan / vegetarian diet I didn’t have the energy to even walk across the room and had chronic diarrhea
When for whatever reason I don't get a meat meal I feel like crap the next day.
You would be astonished at the incredible amount of food that supermarkets throw out daily, just because it's near out of date.
Let them be vegan or vegetarian! Otherwise, animal product prices will skyrocket!
Excellent thank you 🙏🏻🌷✨🙏🏻
I was raised on a Wisconsin farm (1947-65). We ate beef (and milk/cheese), pork (and bacon and sausage), ducks, geese, chicken (and eggs), game (deer/rabbit), freshwater fish, all sorts of fresh/canned/frozen vegetables and fruits. No boxed, bagged, bottled (except beer!), crap from the grocery store. I just turned 77, and haven't lived on a farm since 1965, but basically eat the same. I take zero pills. My Trigs are 29, HDL 109, LDL 100. I walk 4 miles per day. Doc says I should take a statin. I questioned his sanity. He shut up.
Love It!!!
I highly doubt that what you say is true because it sounds like you ate meat in a form of gluttony. Meat has carcinogen in it which causes cancer so if you ate as much meat as it seems you did you would not be doing well at this point.
@@Rescue127 It's true. What I am describing is omnivore lifestyle with a lot of variety. We didn't eat all of those meats every day, but had animal protein three times a day.
@@ronaldlenz5745 I disagree and don't believe it. Sending misinformation is unacceptable.
@@Rescue127 Believe it. I eat like my northern europe ancestors.
The Vegetarian Myth addresses this; Dr Berry interviewed the author
Yes, her name is Lierre Kieth. Great book.
She’s a fake, not even a vegan in the book
I never even thought about if everyone was healthy and didn't produce all the medical waste 🤯
But Big Pharma would go bankrupt.
I've been vegan for years and there are many lies about veganism, one is that you can be healthy following a vegan diet. Second, vegan diets are not affordable, they are really expensive
Both are based on the same thing. Ultra processed food.
I'm a vegan for 7 years now and I'm still shocked that people eat and actually promote things like vegan cheese. (not the nut based ones but the heavy processed ones).
I eat whole food and my food is fine. Maybe a little boring for most people as is normal with any whole food diet but it is healthy and cheap. The same cannot be said about the beyond burgers and all the other processed stuff. That should be in the junk food department, not in the "promote this as a healthy option" department.
Ha! This is why I hate the term ‘Vegan’
As an ancestral whole food plant eater, I can say with confidence it’s the cheapest food you can buy…even organic. Legumes cheap veges cheap fruit in season or frozen cheap grains cheap even nuts are cheap compared to adding all the ultra processed shit and expensive meat. My health has improved remarkably since leaving LC Keto. Keto is a death sentence. Not just for the animal, but for the human eating the animal.
@@davedewsnap288 and how many animals do you kill with your diet? Meat is very satiating so I would argue that carnivores actually spend less then most vegan/vegetarians.
@@denisecohn2974 that’s a bit premature. You’ll need to add your health insurance, unless you’re lucky enough to get free medical care for stent work, triple by-pass and the heart transplant you’re heading for. Me? I adhere to 100 yrs of science for ancestral plant based regimens.
The Lion - a Carnivore. Lives for 14 yrs maximum. The Wolf. Carnivore. Lives for 16 yrs maximum. The Cheetah. Carnivore. Lives 8-10 yrs. All the Carnivores in the wild in their natural habitats, are extremely short lived. YOU on your modern fat marbled meat diet (with it’s reduced protein) haven’t got a chance of health in the long term. Zilch. Enjoy.
@@denisecohn2974 that is wishful thinking my friend. The animals you eat eat the legumes and grains we eat directly but it takes far more then a pound of plant based protein to make a pound of animal protein.
Animals give us nutrition with high values of essential fats and aminos, much vitamins and elements. They thrive from grassland and agricultural waste. I dont think this could be replaced by using less land.
The Vegan propaganda is also exposed in The Great Plant Based Con & talks about the need for regenerative agriculture among other topics.
Yep..! -70SomethingGuy
Swore I misheard you when you said "eating ass " lol
I appreciate your commentary and sharing your knowledge.
Anyone believing this vegan propaganda should consider a book called, "The Vegetarian Myth".
Must find that. Thx.
By Lierre Kieth. An excellent, articulate book
@@cassieoz1702 Yes! just read it.
Ah yes written by a person who claimed to be vegan yet ate copious amounts of dairy .
Most of her sources include Wikipedia and blogs .
You need to watch debunking her book videos.
It's rather embarassing for her .
I recently transition to OMAD with mostly meat. No carbs and vegetables as much as possible. I noticed that I don't get sore muscles after exercise now. Ankle pain at the start of my run were gone too. No need to warmup too.
Yes, vegetable crops use less land if counting only a limited number of measures - i.e. protein per hectare, for instance, but they need GOOD land. My food is grown on land that would never support a vegetable crop without extreme measures. High carbon cost, high cash cost, high environmental cost and, in most cases, unsustainable. Meanwhile, my food is not destroying the soil and is adding to the net carbon sequestered by the living soil ecosystem they feed from and add back to. The vegans like to say their crops use less land. They show how much land is used by all farming and indicate that it could be supplying vegans when 70% of the land they call farmland "wasted" on livestock couldn't grow a vegan consumable crop...ever, without destroying that land and its ecosystem/environment in the process.
Veganism's greatest benefit: Confidence to the nth degree
Yep...! Old Saying, "IGNORANCE Is BLISS..." -70SomethingGuy
Read The Great Plant-Based Con by by Jayne Buxton. it's not as simple as the vegan prophets would have us all believe.
It's not as complex as the animal eaters would have you believe either, you simply aren't a lion or some other creature that actually needs to harm and devour animals in order to live...
No need to fill the world you and everyone you love lives in with more needless suffering and death in it for everyone and everything...
You shouldn't need to rely on any profet Vegan or Animal Eater in order to understand such simple truth which is also already long proven and objectively verifiable anyway... ;-)
Older people breaking their bones and have to spend time in bed....they are in danger not to recuperate very well, losing too much muscle mass etc.
F...a...aaaa...k veganism. Anti nature.
See Allan Savory, Joel Salatin, Gabe Brown, Allen Williams, Alejandro carillo, Geoff Lawton, etc. These all have dramatically improved soil health by working WITH nature, with natures natural patterns. Their farms/ ranches are beautiful examples of biodiversity and healthy ecosystems AND more productive than industrially farmed lands.
How about we eat meat based diets and grow strong brains to innovate our way through co2
So you believe that climate-scam?
It all comes back to animals again :).
Co2 is not a problem, it is just an excuse to further their commie agenda.
It doesn't matter to me which school of dieting one follows. But, why is it that those who live in the Blue Zones generally have very good health span s and live to a great age? They consume little or no meat and possess excellent health.
The idea that shipping vegetables and fruits all over the world requires less energy than animals that are grown locally is ridiculous. Chemical fertilizer made from materials that create greenhouse gases require more energy than raising animals locally most of the year in many places and at low and relatively high elevation. Healthy soil is made from manure, not chemical fertilizers.
i not against meat but, 1. many vegans not eat / live naturally, but it can be done, as garden for own home or, in village or city district, or in some cases both. 2. there is enough energy in world, a lack of anything, not exists with no interference ( food can grow faster and bigger, can plant much more trees, etc ). 3. other transportation exists. 4. i would not rule out, weaken technology is used in world, so full cap-ability can not be achieved, this days. take care
One of the biggest looming problems we may face as humans is the increasing extent of “tribal thinking / divisions” and “my gang v your gang” bigotry…all hugely exacerbated by social media and the “smart” (?) phone.
i know, right? carnivores are such hateful, immoral subhuman creatures. sick!
CO2 is not a problem at all. In fact, we need more of it for better plant growth.
Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas, which greatly overwhelms that of CO2.
you say that with the same certainty (and even less evidence) than those who say CO2 is the issue.
@@jplmedleyruclips.net/user/shortsXnZzT_gTvy4?si=KrU-2oZAvYazFsp1
To sum it up, plants have blood on their hands !
Ate whoke foid plant based low oil no salt .everythibg got worse. Became diabetic. My atheroschlorisis got worse i was told it would improve a great big lie. Also gained weight. Doing atkins now
You really need to consider spell check.
@@jayjenkins4384😂😂😂
I liked the idea You mentioned about testing gases under a dome
Glad to hear you’re doing an interview with Peter Ballersteadt. He’s a wealth of information on ruminant agriculture.
Maybe follow up with Frank Mitloehner. He as well is a huge wealth of knowledge on methane and GHG.
How can vegans be so dumb about the ape relationship. Chimps, gorillas, orangutans and bonobos all are hind gut digesters. We don’t have a big belly for fermentation. That’s plain to see. Closest relation in digestion is man’s best friend…. The Dog. We evolved together.
My dogs have been on a raw diet. I cook my meats rare. We do well.
We don’t eat vegans like wings_nut below. Me and my dog don’t find them tasty… dietarily they’re kinda like industrial raised chicken or pork. Tasteless white meat. 🧐😂🤦🏼
The biggest myth I think is thinking you can simply transition (assuming we are talking about going completely raw vegan) is if you have spent any number of years eating a conventional diet, you will then need to fast with water only for long enough and properly with experienced guidance, to let the body cleanse and heal itself to a point where you are able to regain your health, vitality and efficiency enough to be able to consume the diet we were meant to absolutely thrive on.
How does the Amazon produce soil without spotted cows with udders that hit the ground ?
It's kind of like power sources and carbon. We can go back to wind power and solar, but they are hugely inefficient at producing electricity. We're spending tons of money and basically showing no progress at all because of the enormous amount of power we use. Going to veganism would be the same thing. The real progress is being made in fusion power plants. We're not there, but at our progress rate we will be before global warming is serious and even fission power plants are much more efficient than they used to be at producing smaller amounts of waste. Currently about 4 percent of the world is vegan and it's hardly changing at all. It's a solution that isn't going to happen and even if it did, it would hardly make a difference.
If cows didn’t eat so much plant material it would cut down on the flatulence. Although their gas is most likely the least of our worries. Thank you doctor for being a pioneer because the mainstream hasn’t yet caught on
In nature we eat meat and some seasonal fruits.
Simple.
Hunters gatherers eat tubers...guess it's what was eventually hybridized into potatoes but idk just know they're starchy. In places where sugar cane grows naturally, folks eat it. We are naturally drawn to sweets & salts.
@@mariad1151Hard life of a hunter gatherer. Luckily we live now. No plants for 8 months, thank goodness.
@@mariad1151 We ate tubers, roots, seed...etc right before death due to starvation. Hybridized is not natural. I only eat meat and some seasonal fruits. Wild sugar cane has very very small amount of sugar. Salt makes me vomit. Sweets I agree, but very little sweets in nature, like honey and some seasonal fruits that are mostly sour.
@@desmomotodesmomoto2033 hunters gatherers eat tubers routinely. Stephan Guyinet who lived w the Hadza for a while & ate as they are said it's a very difficult, unpalatable diet & meat was often.... compromised shall we say.
@@AnneMB955hard life agreed. I like plants ...& Everything else 😉
Doc, could you please discuss how some vegans are able to do such incredible feats if their diet is so bad?
In particular, Scott Jurek. 20yr vegan ultra runner who ran the equivalent of 84 marathons in 46 days!!!
He doesn't look in the slightest unhealthy! MT.
I’m a omnivore my self with 80% natural animal products and agree, however I have meet several elderly vegans (80’s & 90+) in optimal health condition, physical and cognitive. Pretty sure extreme diets not for everyone, but indeed for some. I think vegan vs carnivore diets are a global movement to divide more society than already is. Greetings
I have another question about the assumptions that this carbon-emission approach to global and individual health. I simply don't accept that the level of carbon dioxide controls the climate. I don't think that the case has been made. Climate change is a political rather than a scientific issue.
Go "animal - based".... a great book by Dr Stephen Hussey " Understanding the Hesrt...." very comprehensive & the audio version is compelling..
The biggest and most prevalent one is that they actually went "vegan" in the first place.
There is no healthy plants only diet for us.
We are all omnivores.
Everyone uses animal products.
As a former 17year-long vegetarian I can say - no, you can't get enough protein on a vegetarian diet. And I doubt on vegan food as well.
You can definitely survive without an animal food for the years. But to claim to be healthy it's not true. 😉
Even in transition phase I tried to eat more protein via nuts and seeds but it did not feel well. I tried hard...
Dr. Westman, you said ``greenhouse gas emissions' ', then you said ``which are CO2 and methane' '. You forgot to mention the major greenhouse gas by far, which covers 70 percent of Earth's surface (in liquid phase, so far). This ghg evaporates from oceans and Hudson Bay Grant landmass in Canada and Northern USA, as a gas. It rises and condenses into fog, rain, and cloud. It rises further and freezes into snow clouds, always accompanied by ghg in gas phase. Messing around with ruminants and power stations cannot stop water from evaporating. Water has raised Earth's temperature by most of 33 Kelvin degrees; CO2 helped along with, I don't know, half degree or one degree, to bring it up by 33 Kelvin. Earth average temperature is thought to be 288 Kelvin.
The climate has been changing for billions of years, all on its own.
@@Miraak1868vegans think climate is stopped.
Just cause we need cows and grazing animals doesn't mean we have to eat them.
Dr Westman, OK, we don't have vegetarian innards, but surely we haven't got carnivore teeth either? Thank-you for this ground-breaking discussion. I look forward to further developments.
Any mammal that cannot digest cellulose must eat other animals. This is a biological fact that humans are not exempt from. 89 species on non human apes eat other animals. Even sloths dine out on baby birds if they happen across them. I've seen many videos of horses gobbling up chicken chicks like marshmallows. Our labels for animals means nothing to them. No animal is vegan. All will take advantage of a meat meal if the opportunity presents itself and some 'herbivores' do actively kill other animals.
If we had fangs, talking would be hard…which would be a downer, and we invented knives and spears, so there was no evolutionary reason to keep our fangs (notice all the apes have them, even the vegetarian ones). Moreover, our molars are actually slightly bladed, looking like the top of a fist with your pointer finger slightly raised. They are not like a traditional vegetarian molar which is rounded, more like the top of a tight fist. We are looking at 4million years of evolution down stream of our ape ancestry which is a long time, we have had agriculture for 10,000 years, which is just yesterday. If you think we gathered more than hunted, go bush and see how simple it is to “gather your food”.
Take a look at your canine teeth next to your incisors and premolars….
@@dguy7436 Try eating pounds of raw steak with those two feeble little teeth, or even biting through animal hides as eg tigers have to do. Imo in sofar as we are designed / fit for anything, we are omnivores.
Do you know Buddhist monks are vegan ? I wonder how’s their quality of life span ? Anyone knows ?
They die at a similar rate to the cultures they come from. An old guy in Scotland just hit 100 and swears by eating porridge for breakfast, kippers for diner, and whisky for tea.
Hope there will be a trial on carnivore vs vegan to settle this diet once and for all
If there was the judge would be vegan.
It's already been settled it's just that the wannabe lions/pretend apex predators are terrified they will weaken or die if they accept the reality they don't need to harm animals to devour them and/or won't adult up and put the importance of life above taste pleasure which is especially weak since they can have plenty of taste pleasure without doing such things anyway so they keep denying, crying, distracting and making excuses as the doctor in this video often does here... ;-)
@@RaceLever When will people realise that the truth about science is far more important than scientific consensus created and developed by people, industries and health organisations with vested interests? True science is not based on manipulated data from biased surveys with almost infinite variables involved.
The importance of life is blatantly ignored by fat fearers when the life is of the smaller variety. Bees for instance are rapidly declining in population in part because of their use in the pollination of almond trees to provide unnutritious milk for the wilfully blinkered.
"Almond trees are grown with dozens of pesticides, many of which are extremely toxic to both imported European honey bees and native North American bees."
@@dennisward43 ... That's alot of strawmaning you're using, it's adorable that you think you're in a position to teach me anything on such matters though when what I'm talking about is far from just consensus as if statistical outcome data relies merely on opinion...
I'm including quality, common sense and proper discernment etc too.. if I was using only popular opinion than I would eat animals like the most of the worlds doctors, scientists, researchers, etc do ignoring the overwhelming data,proper evidence, common sense ,etc, instead of overcoming their addictions, fears, and bad habits...
Nice cheap well poisoning attempt though but you'll need to do much better since you are on the wrong side of this one and clearly haven't thought it through well enough... ;-)
@@RaceLever Any mammal that cannot digest cellulose must eat other animals. This is a biological fact that humans are not exempt from.
Vegetables give me the worst gas!
Do u know chris wark who highly promotes juicing and vegan diet for cancer..hes a big guru now on utube and written books etc..a huge following.he had cancer when he was 26 but had surgery and now hes 46...
This young man clearly has an ideology agenda. Those supplements should be taken into consideration along with plant protein manufacturing emissions. I once heard someone say the last mile of a mono crop field is a 'bloody mile" and the same famer said he often has to stop his combine to pull out fawn carcasses.
I think Dr you need to do a lot of research before you come on and spout your opinion.because all the research I have done has pointed to eating plant-based food only as a win-win for not just the animals but for the environment and our health. I find that most doctors are so into pharmaceutical sales because they get a percentage of money whenever they give the patient the prescription that they want people to eat meat because they want to make money off of people coming in for appointments because they don't feel good from eating meat but you will continue to tell them it's something else so they won't know what the truth really is. I think a doctor should be transparent about everything and not worry about their Greed for money.
If that's your opinion you have not done your research as far as agricultural practices are concerned. Go and talk to local producers. They'll be quite honest about the level of death arable crops deliberately cause. You'll be horrified. Animals are shot, or poisoned, taking up to 12 days to die from the poison they ingested that was deliberately put out to target them. And any animal who thinks to prey on the poisoned one in its weakened state, well, they get poisoned too. In contrast we just put a home grown heifer in the freezer. I could live on nothing but beef for 18 months and hers would be the only life that was taken. The body count on any vegetarian or vegan plate is much, much higher despite the lack of meat.
I sure bet that the food industry is going to focus on my health instead of their profit margin this time....
What about eating deer and similar game? You wouldn't get hormones and antibiotics. Plus, deer is a natural ruminant.
To get medical information, I listen to Dr. Westman and Dr. Berry. To get atmospheric physics information, I listen to Dr. Richard Lindzen and Dr. Will Happer.
Perennial grassland is a massive carbon sequestration engine. If methane from animals were a legitimate concern, then all sewage systems would utilize anaerobic fermentation. Human poop is a massive source of methane. But, anaerobic fermentation of sewage or even compost is on the table anywhere in the world. PG&E has a pilot plant in N. CA that does this in order to generate gas for combustion to provide power. Such systems are perfectly possible, but instead we have hysteria about cow farts and burps. It's a swindle on it's face. And, promotes the use of petrochemicals to manufacture fertilizer instead of the use of manure.
The notion that the Amish, who practice integrated traditional agriculture, are somehow contributing to climate change is just ignorant and preposterous on it's face. Corporate monoculture agriculture is a problem. Grass fed ruminants are absolutely NOT a problem.
Anyone who has ever actually tried to grow crops knows from experience that manure is absolutely critical to soil building, plant feeding, proper root building, and the mitigation of soil erosion, not to mention the mitigation of water contamination from the use of petrochemicals.
It really comes down to a person what diet is good for them. For most people a balanced diet of both meat and vegies is good.
I have done keto diet and its great for rapid weight loss. But i would not do it for long term. Ive heard some people getting heart attacks and so on.
But i would definately not go full vegan either since there are other issues with that.
My friends GF has been a vegan for more then 10 years now. And couple of years ago she lost the use of her left leg.
Doctors dont know whats wrong with her. They say its like she has MS but she dont according to all tests.
So that leads me and my friend and some other people to believe that it has something to do with the vegan diet.
She did tell me that she takes vitamin supplements so if thats true that should not be the issue.
My friend was allso a vegan but he stopped being one because of that.
This is still just hypothetical and there is no evidence since the doctors can't come up with a diagnosis.
Im not sure how her condition is at the moment since i dont see them that often now days.
But i hope she will try a ''normal'' diet and see if it helps.
so the Hava app gave my red wine a satiety score of 11! Wrong! I'd say it was a 90🍷 Gave my dinner a 60, which is high ,but I disagree. It's was so good I had seconds lol. Anyone using the app?
The facial expression in the thumbnail is unworthy of a doctor.
There is a video on RUclips how long do food influencers of last 150 years live ,the best science there is ,just check the results 😊
I don't know where this relationship of chimps/human, people are not anywhere close to them
You are right about that. I think that chimps are more civilized.
What is the biggest myth about "keto" diets that don't put people in ketosis. Please let us know!
A wonderful & insightful book I recommend reading is A Bold Return to Giving a Damn by Will Harris!!
People who take part in the worse sin in humanity: the slaughterhouses, and who eat animals animals have no chance to ascend to the higher dimensions. We all are a beef or a chicken, etc in some other dimensions, therefore eating animals is eating ourselves. Vege & fruits love like in a dream, they are here to be eaten, they are our primary energy.
I see you are ignoring the billions of animals, some cute, fluffy ones too, deliberately shot and poisoned annually to establish, grow, protect and harvest plant crops. That is where the animal abuse lies with poisons taking up to 12 days to kill their intended targets and animals shot from a distance so rarely receiving a humane kill shot. There may be no meat on your plate but there is far more death there than on the plate of any meat eater. Your ignorance of agricultural practices is concerning, but not surprising when you've joined the cult.
MISLEADING INFO!!! WFPB, "whole food plant based" is NOT vegan. Totally different. WFPB eaters agree that veganism and vegetarian is not the best or healthiest. Oreos are vegan afterall. So don't slam the WFPB community or put them in the same category as Vegans until you know all the facts about it and read the thousands of studies about it . There is a huge difference. So sad that people misslead others with their lack of information and confusion about vegan and WFPB. (Plant based means just that) Less about the meat and Its more about omitting processed foods, junk foods, added chemicals etc. And can you honestly say, that eating those are healthy? Stop misleading people about the health benefits of eating cruciferous vegetables!!!!! Because they can also eat those on their keto diets. And why do you all think meat is the only source of protein, UGH!!!!
So sad and such misleading information here, and from a doctor who obviously has never had a class on nutrition. (SMH)
Weird how the OREO site denies that claim and even say there is risk of cross contact with dairy...
U know people's, a vegetarian diet gets more food & all the veggies, all da fruits, the fishes 🐟, yum & none of that is fattening, yeah ! don't be lazy we need exercise its helps move things , & coffee ☕️🍯🍶seriously people's, 💝🚴♀️
Dr. WESTMAN, you are being too "nice" about this vegan/ vegetarian thing! Supplements are NEVER going to be as good as the natural source of nourishment God made! There are so many good and /or optimal downstream effects on the body and environment to eating meat it would be exhausting to list.
Meat generally is SO much better than a pill/supplement!
Veganism is an ethical position, not a diet. Even if eating corpses were amazing for your health, the way we obtain such products to supply an insane demand is problematic. Some people in this world fry dogs alive in festivals because they believe the meat tastes better that way. That's how you remove the ethics out of food completely.
What about the ethics of establishing, growing, protecting, and harvesting industrial mono crops? Much more destructive to the environment and kills far more animals than the meat industry could even begin to imagine, using torturous methods too.
Most crops are used to produce food for farmed animals. We currently are feeding billions of animals with soy, corn, wheat etc.. if you consider mono crops to be a problem, you should still be vegan.
@@alissoncassiocosta You're making things up.
Most crops are grown for human consumption. The waste is given to livestock.
An example would be soybeans.
It is rare that soybeans are fed directly to livestock these days because it was found the soy oil interferes with digestion.
It is first processed to remove the soy oil for human consumption and the waste is given to livestock as soy meal.
Corn is similar with ethanol, starch, flour...
Wheat is similar with beer, bread, pasta, sauces...
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
Guess you enjoyed the festival you mentioned and feel guilty or something.
The biggest myth I know of is Vegans are healthy.
Sure if by myth you mean the fact that here in Reality the average Vegan does statistically better than the average animal eater health wise...
You should follow your comment with the biggest truth you know is that 2+2 = 5 so that way you can at least be consistent in your misuse of words and their meanings... ;-)
It is the height of infantile arrogance to imagine that what an individual eats is going to "save the planet". The planet is fine, with or without you.
"1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."-1 Timothy 5:1-5
I would like to know if vegan diet healthy? Is it more healthier than any other diet?
Better than the standard American diet.
It's a nutrition deficiency diet.
Thank you, my thoughts exactly, I worry about a friend who is vegan, not the healthiest look 😥, tried to get her to at least eat an egg, refused .
@@leemanwrongfor some … for me it does the same thing as eating SAD ..inflammation
Fruits & veg seem to be assigned the highest satiety scores by Hava. That's traditional knowledge to long term dieters: eat more lettuce, less pepperoni. W says opposite.
Wait so "Eating Ass" is different from the Vegan video? 😅
I used to watch ASAP science. I didn't realize they were a vegan propaganda channel. That's disappointing