Everyone is complaining about his Greek pronunciation. I just feel a bit let down that, with a name like Hans-Friedrich Mueller, and straight-up Beethoven hair, he doesn't have a thick German accent.
@@StavsT his pronunciation doesn't have anything to do with Greek. I admire his excitement and knowledge however he can't even pronounce the words correctly let alone have an ancient Greek pronunciation
@@gamergamer1296 Please stop with the pity. Pity makes you speakers of modern Greek sound petty. Professor Mueller was trying to teach, as he clearly stated, "restored Ancient Greek." You noticed the beta sounded like a b, not a v, as in modern Greek. Also, the g is always pronounced as a hard g, never soft, as it is sometimes in modern Greek (like Giannis or gyro). Prof. Mueller apologized for his American accent more than once. To mock him is to mock Ancient Greek. The man is trying to celebrate your ancestors. Is it hard for you to focus on the importance of what he is trying to accomplish. Making fun of his accent says much about your level of intelligence.
Manuel Pippos , Γεια σου φίλε, έμαθα τα ελληνικά για 4 χρόνια στο σχόλιο στη Ολλανδία. Και μου αρέσουν τα αρχεία ελληνικά και διαβάζω την Οδύσσεια λίγο
@@dev4424 Hi there friend! Probably very late to answer but I would like to suggest a way of learning modern greek. At first, you might want to get a good grasp of the alphabet and get used to the pronunciation of some combinations of letters. Surprisingly you will not have an extreme difficulty in doing so. Then, despite the context you should read aloud some small greek articles and attempt to write them afterwards in order to exercise your speaking and writing skills. After a week or so, you should grab some basic grammar, such as personal pronouns and fundamental verbs or nouns to boost your vocabulary
This is the most encouraging video I've ever seen. This is how all subjects should be taught. This guy feels like the type to sincerely say "good job" when you make a mistake, because that's how you learn.
Great lesson! I absolutely adore the works of Homer - one of the best writers of all time. Your lesson motivates me to study Ancient Greek (here and there when I can find a free moment).... Thank you very much.
Good for you Matthew 👍 I am also here because I would like to be able to read Homer, Thucydides and ancient poets in classical Greek. I realise that it will take me a long time to achieve this because I only started two weeks ago and I'm no spring chicken but I'm going to get there! People like you are inspirational.
At 30:21, in the verb προϊάπτω, diairesis (or διαλυτικά, as we call in in Greek) is been used. This is used for the spelling, in order to distinguish between "oi" and "i", which in turn proves that without diairesis, the diphthong "οι" is spelled as ι and not as ο-ι. Unless Erasmus knew better than the Greeks, how to speak their language.
it's well understood that no one actually spoke Greek in the way Erasmus thought; nevertheless, it is now the standard across the world for how students learn to pronounce ancient Greek
@@soundsoftheheart3164 Just learn modern Greek if you want to learn Greek that people still use in day to day life. There are some enthusiasts that can speak some ancient Greek (I think usually Koine, maybe some Attic), but the idea behind learning it is mostly that you can read old texts, like the New Testament for example. The further back in time you go, the less able anyone would be to actually learn the full language, even if they're great at learning new languages. In Homeric Greek texts a huge chunk of the vocabulary in the texts only occurs once, so we just don't know enough to really get to a fully conversational level as far as I understand it. The people who do speak some form of ancient Greek are so few and far between that you'll probably have a hard time getting in touch with anyone to practice. I expect Latin might be *slightly* easier in that regard. Take this with a grain of salt, I'm not an expert.
What an excellent orator! Thoroughly engaging and confident in his approach. For those who truly want to learn, the accent is nether here nor there. For decades I have read and studied interlinear versions of the New Testament along with Vines Expository to elicit a fuller, richer understanding. The clarity and beauty of phrase does not need an accompanying accent to resonate with me. Bravo.
If you want to read Greek the letter " Pi " should be pronounced like " Pee " not like " Pie ", because the letter " I " in Hellenic is pronounced as one short sound ' i ' or ' ee '. The same for Ι, Φ, Χ and Ψ, the proper is Eeota, Fee, Hee, Psee and not Aïota, Faï, Haï, Psy, this is ridiculous.
we learned how to properly say the greek letters in my physics classes and i was very fortunate to have a professor in my masters who was Greek herself :)
yeah, that's sooo annoying. He's supposed to be teaching the alphabet, that should include how to read the alphabet in the language he's teaching, not English...
eric welch I’m not sure if you paid attention, but the professor clear states that he is teaching a certain type of pronunciation for Ancient Greek not modern Greek....most likely your teacher taught you modern greek
@@evelynl.4554 He also says he's bending towards American sounds because he's teaching in the US. Americans say pi like pie, and the English say it like pee. I agree, he clearly justifies the way he's saying everything, and then said learning should be a pleasure, not a torture. None of these people even watched this video, and they definitely didn't hear that last part. God, people are a drag.
I am a teacher so I give you respect for your teachings. I have been reading ancient Greek for more than 33 years now and with all due respect , i disagree with the pronunciation given in this video. That's my right. The iota should sound like eeotah in english transliteration, not the way it is presented. The 2nd letter should sound like Veetah in english transliteration not Beta. In the Hebrew language, the second letter is bet or vet depending if the little dot is inside the letter and other example. If people wants to learn ancient Greek i would recommend to look for a Greek teacher specialized in ancient Greek. When i was young, my friends in Greek schools had to learn Archaia Ellinika. it was mandatory.
I mean, I started laughing after his pronunciation of alpha. He read it in English instead of Greek which like he even said 'a' is not supposed to sound the same. I have been learning Koine for the last 4 years so this video was cringe.
I'm so glad I came across your channel today. I hope to watch and learn more. You make it fun, interesting and memorable, which makes learning language easy and enjoyable. Thanks.
I am just starting and since the pronunciation if only for me I am picking this one (bought the dvd). Using this and other books and videos give me hope
I'm Greek and I didn't even realize he was speaking Greek when he supposedly spoke in ancient Greek, all I heard were a bunch of American sounding syllables
because he uses the erasmus-restorted-ancient greek version...we greeks know the original non restort version of ancient greek...this is the difference!
Well, i guess modern Greek sounds more like Ancient Greek than Anglo-Greek, but Ancient Greek and modern Greek are not identical. Homeric Greek is from probably around 600 BC. That's over 2,000 years ago. Homeric Ancient Greek is older and Mycenaean Greek is 3,000 years old and used Minoan symbols, not the Ancient Greek Alphabet. Try reading something in Old English like Beowulf. That is only 1000 years ago or so. Admittedly modern Greek is probably a lot closer to Ancient Greek than Old English is to modern Greek. You all did not have Normans. I think he needs a haircut.
modern greek is the best way to learn a Hellenic accent way of speaking (and really the only way). However, modern greeks in my opinion do not speak like the ancient greeks. the pronunciation has changed. You can somewhat tell from the ancient greek. Also, each area had its own dialect and most likely somewhat accent, all of which is lost, except what we can get from studying the spelling in inscriptions. So, in this case we have to accept that we may never know exactly. Hellenes also went through many different stages, as you can also see the society and architecture did. the style and alphabet of alexander's day is hardly the style of the minoans. its a world of difference at every stage. which is precisely one reason why they are so fascinating. So much good stuff and so different. but you can not get a precise way of pronouncing hellene without listening to a native speaker. But I do not think it was the same. We have plenty of evidence pronunciations change in all languages over time. For instance: H was once a consonant in greek and so was digamma a V, (not B for v.). Hta took the place of long e or a in Ionic dialects, not a long iota. Y is pronounced as a v in au and eu but as a semivowel that would correspond to a u-vowel in origin, (and does in every other indo-european language), not a long i, which is how it's pronounced now. Eventually at some point H was pronounced like a long i--I am not sure when this happened, but, people speculate it was around the time of koine, but I am not sure what is in hard evidence in archaeology. Also: the accent in modern greek is all one accent. There are three in ancient greek, because it was probably a pitch accent: just like in vedic, to which ancient greek is most comparable to in languages. Without the rough breathing being pronounced an H why would you need to write it? Today it isn't pronounced. That doesn't make any sense. People don't write something they don't pronounce. Like in french. Originally the -s was pronounced. Originally louis (louie) was written and pronounced Clovis. This metamorphosis is actually an ongoing process and we have evidence for it at every time. The mycenaeans spoke and wrote a different language than classical greek and then both are different from modern. The word kalos was originally Kalvos (v-digamma) why write digamma if you dont pronounce it? Eventually you don't. But some languages keep something for along time in spelling that isn't pronounced. Originally, whent hey were first making writing this wasn't the case. They just changed the spelling. Well, it's likely it was all different at different times, evolving, changing. Study your greek dialects, sanskrit and epigraphh (inscriptions) from each area. Study your Platwnas: the heraclitean reality. Reality always changing. Only the forms (ideas) survive.
He's speaking in an anglicized version of Ancient Greek pronunciation, as he says in the video. While the ancient pronunciation is known to scholars (not in perfect detail, but relatively well), it's rarely followed that closely because it's just easier assimilate the pronunciation to your native language. And it's not like people go around conversing in Ancient Greek anyway. People study the language mostly to be able to understand the ancient texts.
So I'm curious to those of you who have who have learned ancient Greek in school, in Greece..... Do you use the accent that people normally use to speak Greek? I remember when my Pappou would speak ancient Greek to me he would just use the regular accent that we used to speak modern Greek... I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....
We know that they had a different pronunciation but: 1.since we are learning it not as a foreign language but as a previous form of ours 2.since it is still not clear how they spoke and erasmian pronunciation is full of mistakes 3.since it comes easier, after all none has to speak it, (sometimes we do it for fun though) We use the modern pronunciation
'I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....' Is it really scientific? I'm not sure it's a matter of feeling.
Been working on Greek now for about a year, and just found this guy. Not sure if I would have liked it a year ago but am really enjoying his lessons now. Love his flamboyant and dramatic presentation. It’s actually fun!
London Power, that’s real cool! I’ve been wanting to learn Pontic Greek myself, but I don’t know where I can find reliable sources to learn it. You are lucky to have family from that region to help you!
i mean if you're a teacher your grammar should be correct- it's not, firstly it's i'm, i apostrophe m, not a quote, and secondly, it's awesome with an e
To my recollection, one morning all Greek people (wherever they lived), woke up and suddenly decided to start speaking their language differently! But this doesn't make sense! The truth is not so complicated as shown in all these comments: Ancient and Modern Greek is one and only language. It was inherited from generation to generation from ancient eras till today. May be modern greek came to be a simplified form of the ancient one, but it is the same language. If someone is interested to have an idea about nearly ancient accent and pronounciation, it could be a good idea to hear greek as spoken by older people still alive, originated from Pontus (Black Sea), Cyprus, Creta, Kappadokia, etc. Nothing to do with what Erasmus stated! Anyway, many thanks for video. It was a good reason for thoughts sharing.
I was thinking the same ..how is it possible that all greek speaking enclaves all over the world is speaking in more or less form? Erasmus was speaking Dutch.. It would be very difficult for a non greek to speak it without distortion or/and oversimplification.
No, it is not the same as ancient greek. Ancient Greek is a different language. Using the same alphabet does not mean they are the same languages. English is not a Latin language because it uses the Latin alphabet.
@@Atmirilias1 English has become a latin language because a great amount of its vocabulary comes from French/Latin etymologicaly. On the other way most vocabulary of modern Greek derives directly from ancient Greek and the changes of pronunciation in MG are also ancient. Till 2nd century AD they spoke it pretty much as today
Having read some of the other comments, it's hard to believe that so many know so much more. I have never heard so much wisdom concentrated in so short a space. Perhaps that's because I need to get out more. But, on the other hand I have noted that knowledge and wisdom become much diluted when spread among the entire population.
I don't care if Prof Mueller's accent annoys the purists! In just half an hour I learned the alphabet, the sounds and how to use accents! That's more than I could get to stick inside my head with just me and my textbook. He's an *excellent* teacher!
You pronounce the letters of alphabet with english influence. "i" is ee not ai. We don't say psai but psee . Also we say "d" thelta (like the sound of the article the) for the sound of d we use the combination NT. And the letter T is called taf. Because the combination of a+u makes either f or v sound.
he went for the pronunciation of classical ages (5th century bC) which was different from the later Byzantine. But I agree with the i (ee). Also in classical Athens ει was already pronounced i or e, not ei. The rest of what he said is erasmian. What ruins it completely though, is the heavy american accent
Thank you！Learned ancient Greek 5 years ago and it is still so intriguing！（compared to Latin and ancient Hebrew，the ancient Greek is always my favorite😍😍
''restored classical pronunciation''?! Well, I would say it's more a "distortion'' of the classical pronunciation. It's really remarkable, why the western countries adopted a pronunciation was offered from a Dutchman (Erasmus) and ignored the pronunciation that the Greeks themselves used for their own language !
dejavuGR , yes indeed, he pronounce the diphtone ευ correct instead of what Erasmus did. He pronounced it with Dutch diphtone ui When I was in Greece, they were very suprised that we in Western European countries, pronounce the ευ in ancient Greek different, I explained them it is pronouncation according to Erasmus
I learned someting today in his presentatio. I learned about the diuresis, and I learned how to pronounce ui as oui in French. I have two years of Ancient Greek from the University of Michigan in Ann, Arbor Michigan, so to say I learned something new is really remarkable!
7:32 I know I'm going to be in for a great lesson when he says alpha is pronounced like the a in father and then pronounces the a in alpha like in cat or cake
This is a jewel! A gold mine! The Greek alphabet with pronunciation, spoken words, diphthongs, split diphthongs, diacritical markings! I have never heard anyone else say that language is felt by all the senses (my summary). So correct! I am trilingual (English, German and Spanish) and I experience a change in personality depending on which language I speak. You deliver your lesson, slowly, patiently and with verve. I will of course subscribe to "The Great Courses Plus" to continue my study of Ancient Greek. This is a huge contribution to learning Ancient Greek.
I think that Xi, Pi, Phi, Khi, Psi should have to be called Ksee, Pee, Phee, Khee as the Ancient Greeks didn't pronounce I as the Anglo-Saxons do... Same with Mu and Nu, in which the U seems to have been pronounced like the French U and the German Ü. However I'm French myself and I know that our pronounciation of Ancient Greek is also biaised.
I’m learning Ancient Greek and this tutorial has been a big help 👍🏻 does anyone know if this course is still available, it’s not clear on the website, thanks
I think you are an excellent teacher. You make it fun, interesting and relevant. You are getting a lot of flack from our Modern eta centric Greeks who claim to have the correct pronunciation. I would advise them to listen to Old English and try to claim the same argument via Modern English. I don't want to give the impression that the Erasmian pronunciation is a truthful rendition of the way Greek sounded in Athens 2000 years ago but it is used in universities the world over. I can listen to an Iliad recital from an Indian, German or American and still understand it because they use a common standard. The only truth in pronunciation is that it is always changing. Listen to an 1888 recording of William Gladstone and you can hear the shifts of of little more than a hundred years.
The problem is that the "modern" Greek pronunciation is far closer to the "ancient" one than the Erasmian will ever be. There certainly has been a shift in both consonants and vowels over the centuries, but these changes are fairly well documented (give or take a century or two for each). The Erasmian pronunciation was never "accurate" to any degree and even Erasmus would attest that.
My family speaks an old form of Greek closer to Ancient rather than modern and it doesn't sound at all like Erasmian. Erasmian Greek is an old Dutch pronunciation of ancient greek.
This is the pronunciation that I learned in high school, and throughout the years I found that it did not seem to flow naturally with what I was reading. It's not real. I think you should commit to the authentic ancient pronunciation or at least modern Greek pronunciation if you want to claim that you are "speaking" the language.
It is very difficult for an American to pronounce a long ē or a long ō: they must say ‘ei‘ and ‘ou‘, pronouncing ē and ō as diphthongs, unless one has learned a modern language or Latin with good pronunciation. Concerning the Erasmian pronunciation: It is not necessary to follow Erasmus to find a good ancient pronunciation, for we know from Latin many details of the pronunciation of the classical Greek: 1) Words beginning with Ἥρα are always written in Latin with ‘Hera‘ , not ‘Ira‘. E.g.: Hēraclēum, Hēraclīdēs. Greek ει could be transferred by i or e, as in ‘Alexandréa‘ or ‘Alexandría‘, i.e. it must have been in Greek between i and e. 2) Also, we know from Latin that β was always b, e.g. barbitos = βάρβιτος. 3) In classical times there was not yet the ‘spirantisation‘ of the tenues φ θ χ (ph th ch) (except θ in Doric, but that is not classical). Gellius tells us that Greek is more beautiful than Latin because it does not have the ‘ugly letter = littera foeda‘ f (“lingua Graeca est eo pulchrior quam Latina quod f litteram non habet“). 4) ει, η, ι, οι, υ, υι are in the Neogreek pronunciation all pronounced as i, what cannot be genuine. And if we study Greek in Germany, we have to translate into ancient Greek. If we used the Neogreek pronunciation we should make so many mistakes that it would be extremely impractical.
You are pronouncing all the letters with an English sound. So we are not learning Greek. One example, it's not "thaita" but "thehta". It's not ah-i-oh-uhta but "eeohtah". So, let's learn Greek, not "Anglo-Greek!
The pronunciation of ancient greek was different than the one we use now though admittedly he has an american accent, that is to be expected it's not that easy to learn how to pronounce and recognise phonemes that do not exist in your native language also, the reason why greek loan words have such weird spellings in english is because that's how the used to be pronounced take the word phoneme for example, this f sound used to be a aspirated p sound why else would greek have so many letters for the same exact vowels all this is a result thousands of years of mutating that merged all those sounds together here's a wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotacism
modern greek is the best way to learn a greek accent way of speaking. However, modern greeks in my opinion do not speak like the ancient greeks. the pronunciation has changed. You can somewhat tell from the ancient greek. Also, each area had its own dialect and most likely somewhat accent, all of which is lost, except what we can get from studying the spelling inscriptions. So, in this case we have to accept that we may never know exactly.
Diphthongs are pronounced as "two utterances." The difference in pronunciation between a monophthong and a diphthong may be subtle but it is there, as Sanskritists know. This bloke's very present day in his teaching
Excellent teaching! I am hooked! Been wanting to learn NT Greek forever, but never got down to it. Now in quarantine because of international travel, I am locked in to learn. ;) ;)
How come your pronunciation of certain letters doesn't reflect their Greek spelling? For example, you pronounce "alpha" with an "a" sound like "cat" instead of "father." And you pronounce "iota" with an "i" sound like "pie" instead of "police" or "hit." Please advise!
As far as I understand, the Finnish (or the Nordic) way to pronounce ancient Greek is rather accurate and very close to to the (restored) original. Pronouncing diphthongs and finding the difference between long and short wovels is very easy to Finns, because in our language (which is phonetically very conservative) these oppositions are important. - I have seen here some videos where teatchers of modern "vernacular" Greek pronounce ancient Greek and they do so e.g. without paying attention to spiritus lenis or spirtus asper. / Jari J. Marjanen, Helsinki, Finland
Olaf Sorry it’s a year later,but he pronounces it wrong,the guides you’ve read cannot compare to real life language and in greece we don’t say K-o-ee-n-e but k-ee-n-ee
@@koulouris7303 How you pronounce it in modern Greece is irrelevant to how it was pronounced 2000 years ago. Only 1000 years ago in English “Knight” would have been pronounced “K-nee-gh-t” where now it’s pronounced “Nite”, and “Knife” would have been “K-nee-ve”. A lot changes over time.
Ancient Greek has a completely different form of pronunciation than Modern Greek. It was basically made up by European scholars. It’s actually easier to learn for a lot of people since each letter has a unique sound while in Modern Greek some sound the same. There is a definite shift towards using Modern pronunciation today. People like this professor have been using this for decades though and it’s still the standard in academic contexts.
No sabía que la pronunciación del griego clásico era muy similar a la del inglés americano. I didn't know the classical Greek Pronunciation was very similar to current American English. Lol...
I wish people would stop complaining about this video. It may not be perfect, but then, who is? At least he is trying to teach Greek and it is free when all said and done. If you feel you can do better, then please get your own channel here on RUclips and start teaching Ancient Greek yourselves, and for free as well. However, if none of you are willing to do that, then go and have a look at Bill Mounce, I really do like his videos, that is, William D Mounce, as he is really good at teaching Ancient Greek. Hopefully, you won't complain about him!
Hello, Samuel. By becoming a member of The Great Courses Plus you will have access to the guidebook depending on the format you've bought. The digital version comes with a free downloadable PDF, the DVD option (if available - on The Great Courses site, not plus) comes with a printed guidebook and downloadable PDF.
@@TheGreatCourses Thank you for letting me know. I think it's great that you are providing resources for people to learn Ancient Greek and many other things! Keep up the good work👍🏻
Is anyone else learning this not only for linguistics reasons and also being a science enthusiast(Knowing that science is an advanced language that is a smoothie of ancient greek, latin and english)?
The pronunciation of the greek alphabet is wrong in this video. A = Alpha . B = Veta . Γ = gamma and g sounds like the word W(ay) - W(ay)amma . Δ= delta and d sounds like the word TH(e) - TH(e)-elta . Ε = epsilon . Z= zeta . H = eta Θ = theta and th sounds like the word TH(anks) - TH(anks)eta Ι = yo-ta Κ = cappa Λ = lamda. lam sounds like the word LAM(a) and da sounds like the word TH(e) -lam(a)th(e)a M = me N= ni. Ni sounds like the word ΝΙ(xon ) Ξ = xy. Χy sounds like the word (se)XY O = omikron Π = pe Ρ= ro. Ro sounds like the word RO(mance) Σ = seegma. G sounds like the word W(ay) seeW(ay)ma. Τ = is pronounced exactly as the word tough Υ = ypsilon Φ= fee X = he Ψ = psi and sounds like the word (y)PSI(lon) Ω =omega. G sounds like the word W(ay) OmeW(ay)a.
"logos" means "word," he says. But it also means "thought" and "collection," from the verb, "lego," "I collect." A collection is things combined, however loosely, one might say. A collection of a couple of notions might make an idea. Thus, "In the beginning was the thought; and the thought was with God; and the though was God." What does that mean? How does it differ from t'other?
Thank you for the video! Amazing and motivating! I like your English a lot! And great teacher! One doesn’t have to be perfect in order to teach; it’s good enough to know how to give the knowledge further! And that’s exactly the case of this teacher! I like to study with him and don’t care about the accent: no one Ancient Greek will be angry with me about American accent, if I would be able to find the existing one at the meantime 😂
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I am disheartened in learning this ancient "Greek" pronunciation, which is so different from our Greek language and the Greek Divine Liturgy. How can Greek priests, who study this ungainly pronunciation in these classes, preach to the Greek people? They will make fun of them, I am sure. There is a disconnect here - between the scholars (who have decided upon themselves to slaughter the Greek pronunciation and teach it with arrogance, as if they have the right to do so ) and the traditional Greek that has been handed down from generation to generation. This course is an intellectual exercise and no more. I wouldn't call this a language, though, because it needs to be communicated, and it is not reaching the Greek speaking people, but a small sector of scholars.
Patty Apostolides do you know of any RUclips video that teaches and explains how to learn proper Ancient Greek? I’ve been looking for a while now, if you do know of some let me know. Thank you.
He is certainly not teaching 'the Greek speaking peple'. Why would he? Homeric Greek pronunciation was entirely different from modern Greek pronunciation. It's a scientific fact, well established today.
Everyone is complaining about his Greek pronunciation. I just feel a bit let down that, with a name like Hans-Friedrich Mueller, and straight-up Beethoven hair, he doesn't have a thick German accent.
He said he came from German ancestry not that he was from Germany,
This is Erasmian Greek (ancient greek with Dutch accent)
Oh no not another one, butchering
@@StavsT his pronunciation doesn't have anything to do with Greek. I admire his excitement and knowledge however he can't even pronounce the words correctly let alone have an ancient Greek pronunciation
@@gamergamer1296 Please stop with the pity. Pity makes you speakers of modern Greek sound petty. Professor Mueller was trying to teach, as he clearly stated, "restored Ancient Greek." You noticed the beta sounded like a b, not a v, as in modern Greek. Also, the g is always pronounced as a hard g, never soft, as it is sometimes in modern Greek (like Giannis or gyro). Prof. Mueller apologized for his American accent more than once. To mock him is to mock Ancient Greek. The man is trying to celebrate your ancestors. Is it hard for you to focus on the importance of what he is trying to accomplish. Making fun of his accent says much about your level of intelligence.
Anyone who promotes, speaks and encourages the Greek Language, ancient or modern, is a friend of mine ... καλά κάνει ο καθηγητής!!
Manuel Pippos , Γεια σου φίλε, έμαθα τα ελληνικά για 4 χρόνια στο σχόλιο στη Ολλανδία.
Και μου αρέσουν τα αρχεία ελληνικά και διαβάζω την Οδύσσεια λίγο
i m from Bangladesh. apparently my mother tongue is Bengali. but i want to learn Greek. the pure greek. what sources should i look for brother.?
I am Russian, but some of my ancestors were Greek. I want to learn the language now. I am 23 and I hope it is not late.
I am a Philhellene, i consider Ancient Greek to Humanity s'best language ever
@@dev4424 Hi there friend! Probably very late to answer but I would like to suggest a way of learning modern greek. At first, you might want to get a good grasp of the alphabet and get used to the pronunciation of some combinations of letters. Surprisingly you will not have an extreme difficulty in doing so. Then, despite the context you should read aloud some small greek articles and attempt to write them afterwards in order to exercise your speaking and writing skills. After a week or so, you should grab some basic grammar, such as personal pronouns and fundamental verbs or nouns to boost your vocabulary
This is the most encouraging video I've ever seen. This is how all subjects should be taught.
This guy feels like the type to sincerely say "good job" when you make a mistake, because that's how you learn.
Great lesson! I absolutely adore the works of Homer - one of the best writers of all time. Your lesson motivates me to study Ancient Greek (here and there when I can find a free moment).... Thank you very much.
Good for you Matthew 👍
I am also here because I would like to be able to read Homer, Thucydides and ancient poets in classical Greek. I realise that it will take me a long time to achieve this because I only started two weeks ago and I'm no spring chicken but I'm going to get there! People like you are inspirational.
At 30:21, in the verb προϊάπτω, diairesis (or διαλυτικά, as we call in in Greek) is been used. This is used for the spelling, in order to distinguish between "oi" and "i", which in turn proves that without diairesis, the diphthong "οι" is spelled as ι and not as ο-ι. Unless Erasmus knew better than the Greeks, how to speak their language.
it's well understood that no one actually spoke Greek in the way Erasmus thought; nevertheless, it is now the standard across the world for how students learn to pronounce ancient Greek
Yeah, it makes no sense. Without diairesis they pronounce οι as "oi" and with diairesis they pronounce οϊ as "oi", which is the same sound.
I love the way he teaches
I absolutely adore his teaching, it makes me actually want to learn.
Hey. Is ancient Greek still spoken? Like I don't want to learn it but it's no longer spoken
@@soundsoftheheart3164 hey so this language is a dead language which means isn't still spoken
@@helenajunqueira4872 are you sure?
@@soundsoftheheart3164 Just learn modern Greek if you want to learn Greek that people still use in day to day life. There are some enthusiasts that can speak some ancient Greek (I think usually Koine, maybe some Attic), but the idea behind learning it is mostly that you can read old texts, like the New Testament for example. The further back in time you go, the less able anyone would be to actually learn the full language, even if they're great at learning new languages. In Homeric Greek texts a huge chunk of the vocabulary in the texts only occurs once, so we just don't know enough to really get to a fully conversational level as far as I understand it. The people who do speak some form of ancient Greek are so few and far between that you'll probably have a hard time getting in touch with anyone to practice. I expect Latin might be *slightly* easier in that regard. Take this with a grain of salt, I'm not an expert.
I must say, I like his teaching style; it's firm, authoritative and confident. I damn well feel that I'm bound to learn something if I stick around!
What an excellent orator! Thoroughly engaging and confident in his approach.
For those who truly want to learn, the accent is nether here nor there. For decades I have read and studied interlinear versions of the New Testament along with Vines Expository to elicit a fuller, richer understanding. The clarity and beauty of phrase does not need an accompanying accent to resonate with me.
Bravo.
This is by far the best lesson on languages I've ever experienced. Excellent job!
If you want to read Greek the letter " Pi " should be pronounced like " Pee " not like " Pie ", because the letter " I " in Hellenic is pronounced as one short sound ' i ' or ' ee '. The same for Ι, Φ, Χ and Ψ, the proper is Eeota, Fee, Hee, Psee and not Aïota, Faï, Haï, Psy, this is ridiculous.
we learned how to properly say the greek letters in my physics classes and i was very fortunate to have a professor in my masters who was Greek herself :)
yeah, that's sooo annoying. He's supposed to be teaching the alphabet, that should include how to read the alphabet in the language he's teaching, not English...
eric welch I’m not sure if you paid attention, but the professor clear states that he is teaching a certain type of pronunciation for Ancient Greek not modern Greek....most likely your teacher taught you modern greek
@@evelynl.4554 He also says he's bending towards American sounds because he's teaching in the US. Americans say pi like pie, and the English say it like pee. I agree, he clearly justifies the way he's saying everything, and then said learning should be a pleasure, not a torture. None of these people even watched this video, and they definitely didn't hear that last part. God, people are a drag.
@@evelynl.4554 iota in ancient greek is ee not ai. αι=ai like in μαθηταί ι=ee like in ίππος you didn't pay attention
I am a teacher so I give you respect for your teachings. I have been reading ancient Greek for more than 33 years now and with all due respect , i disagree with the pronunciation given in this video. That's my right. The iota should sound like eeotah in english transliteration, not the way it is presented. The 2nd letter should sound like Veetah in english transliteration not Beta. In the Hebrew language, the second letter is bet or vet depending if the little dot is inside the letter and other example. If people wants to learn ancient Greek i would recommend to look for a Greek teacher specialized in ancient Greek. When i was young, my friends in Greek schools had to learn Archaia Ellinika. it was mandatory.
I mean, I started laughing after his pronunciation of alpha. He read it in English instead of Greek which like he even said 'a' is not supposed to sound the same.
I have been learning Koine for the last 4 years so this video was cringe.
I'm so glad I came across your channel today. I hope to watch and learn more. You make it fun, interesting and memorable, which makes learning language easy and enjoyable. Thanks.
I am just starting and since the pronunciation if only for me I am picking this one (bought the dvd). Using this and other books and videos give me hope
I'm Greek and I didn't even realize he was speaking Greek when he supposedly spoke in ancient Greek, all I heard were a bunch of American sounding syllables
because he uses the erasmus-restorted-ancient greek version...we greeks know the original non restort version of ancient greek...this is the difference!
Well, i guess modern Greek sounds more like Ancient Greek than Anglo-Greek, but Ancient Greek and modern Greek are not identical. Homeric Greek is from probably around 600 BC. That's over 2,000 years ago. Homeric Ancient Greek is older and Mycenaean Greek is 3,000 years old and used Minoan symbols, not the Ancient Greek Alphabet. Try reading something in Old English like Beowulf. That is only 1000 years ago or so. Admittedly modern Greek is probably a lot closer to Ancient Greek than Old English is to modern Greek. You all did not have Normans.
I think he needs a haircut.
modern greek is the best way to learn a Hellenic accent way of speaking (and really the only way). However, modern greeks in my opinion do not speak like the ancient greeks. the pronunciation has changed. You can somewhat tell from the ancient greek. Also, each area had its own dialect and most likely somewhat accent, all of which is lost, except what we can get from studying the spelling in inscriptions. So, in this case we have to accept that we may never know exactly. Hellenes also went through many different stages, as you can also see the society and architecture did. the style and alphabet of alexander's day is hardly the style of the minoans. its a world of difference at every stage. which is precisely one reason why they are so fascinating. So much good stuff and so different. but you can not get a precise way of pronouncing hellene without listening to a native speaker. But I do not think it was the same. We have plenty of evidence pronunciations change in all languages over time. For instance: H was once a consonant in greek and so was digamma a V, (not B for v.). Hta took the place of long e or a in Ionic dialects, not a long iota. Y is pronounced as a v in au and eu but as a semivowel that would correspond to a u-vowel in origin, (and does in every other indo-european language), not a long i, which is how it's pronounced now. Eventually at some point H was pronounced like a long i--I am not sure when this happened, but, people speculate it was around the time of koine, but I am not sure what is in hard evidence in archaeology. Also: the accent in modern greek is all one accent. There are three in ancient greek, because it was probably a pitch accent: just like in vedic, to which ancient greek is most comparable to in languages. Without the rough breathing being pronounced an H why would you need to write it? Today it isn't pronounced. That doesn't make any sense. People don't write something they don't pronounce. Like in french. Originally the -s was pronounced. Originally louis (louie) was written and pronounced Clovis. This metamorphosis is actually an ongoing process and we have evidence for it at every time. The mycenaeans spoke and wrote a different language than classical greek and then both are different from modern. The word kalos was originally Kalvos (v-digamma) why write digamma if you dont pronounce it? Eventually you don't. But some languages keep something for along time in spelling that isn't pronounced. Originally, whent hey were first making writing this wasn't the case. They just changed the spelling. Well, it's likely it was all different at different times, evolving, changing. Study your greek dialects, sanskrit and epigraphh (inscriptions) from each area. Study your Platwnas: the heraclitean reality. Reality always changing. Only the forms (ideas) survive.
No one can necessarily assume that the ancient Greeks spoke with the same pronounciation and accent as modern Greeks anyway.
He's speaking in an anglicized version of Ancient Greek pronunciation, as he says in the video. While the ancient pronunciation is known to scholars (not in perfect detail, but relatively well), it's rarely followed that closely because it's just easier assimilate the pronunciation to your native language. And it's not like people go around conversing in Ancient Greek anyway. People study the language mostly to be able to understand the ancient texts.
So I'm curious to those of you who have who have learned ancient Greek in school, in Greece..... Do you use the accent that people normally use to speak Greek? I remember when my Pappou would speak ancient Greek to me he would just use the regular accent that we used to speak modern Greek... I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....
We know that they had a different pronunciation but: 1.since we are learning it not as a foreign language but as a previous form of ours
2.since it is still not clear how they spoke and erasmian pronunciation is full of mistakes
3.since it comes easier, after all none has to speak it, (sometimes we do it for fun though)
We use the modern pronunciation
'I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....' Is it really scientific? I'm not sure it's a matter of feeling.
Being native Greek is not relevant, I'm afraid.
@@michelaristegui1342 more relevant than being Dutch
@Vlad Tsepes 😂😂 ok I did too…
From India.... thanks you very much I lockdown 2020 I have been learning Greek . Russian. Japanese Urdu french Portuguese Spanish and sanskrit
Been working on Greek now for about a year, and just found this guy. Not sure if I would have liked it a year ago but am really enjoying his lessons now. Love his flamboyant and dramatic presentation. It’s actually fun!
I learn ancient Greek from grandfathers they used to live in a remote part of Anatolia the region is call it Pontus or karadeniz in Turkish
London Power, that’s real cool! I’ve been wanting to learn Pontic Greek myself, but I don’t know where I can find reliable sources to learn it. You are lucky to have family from that region to help you!
@@AmazonWarriorQueen come blacksea))
Pontic Greek is one of the dialects closest to ancient Greek so... win-win?
I"m so surprised that I already know all the letters in shape and in pronunciation, I am a physics teacher. Awesom!
If your a physics teacher you shouldn't be surprised by that at all
That's very cool, but can your physic translate homer's texts?
You are a "Nature Indicator," you said, Said, just once, once.
i mean if you're a teacher your grammar should be correct- it's not, firstly it's i'm, i apostrophe m, not a quote, and secondly, it's awesome with an e
To my recollection, one morning all Greek people (wherever they lived), woke up and suddenly decided to start speaking their language differently! But this doesn't make sense!
The truth is not so complicated as shown in all these comments: Ancient and Modern Greek is one and only language. It was inherited from generation to generation from ancient eras till today. May be modern greek came to be a simplified form of the ancient one, but it is the same language. If someone is interested to have an idea about nearly ancient accent and pronounciation, it could be a good idea to hear greek as spoken by older people still alive, originated from Pontus (Black Sea), Cyprus, Creta, Kappadokia, etc. Nothing to do with what Erasmus stated!
Anyway, many thanks for video. It was a good reason for thoughts sharing.
I was thinking the same ..how is it possible that all greek speaking enclaves all over the world is speaking in more or less form? Erasmus was speaking Dutch.. It would be very difficult for a non greek to speak it without distortion or/and oversimplification.
No, it is not the same as ancient greek. Ancient Greek is a different language. Using the same alphabet does not mean they are the same languages. English is not a Latin language because it uses the Latin alphabet.
Yeah, because those regions kept the same pronunciation for 2,000 years and didn't evolve at all 🙄
@@Atmirilias1 English has become a latin language because a great amount of its vocabulary comes from French/Latin etymologicaly.
On the other way most vocabulary of modern Greek derives directly from ancient Greek and the changes of pronunciation in MG are also ancient. Till 2nd century AD they spoke it pretty much as today
Having read some of the other comments, it's hard to believe that so many know so much more. I have never heard so much wisdom concentrated in so short a space. Perhaps that's because I need to get out more. But, on the other hand I have noted that knowledge and wisdom become much diluted when spread among the entire population.
Absolutely captivating teaching style.
It's a Yes from me!
I don't care if Prof Mueller's accent annoys the purists! In just half an hour I learned the alphabet, the sounds and how to use accents! That's more than I could get to stick inside my head with just me and my textbook. He's an *excellent* teacher!
You pronounce the letters of alphabet with english influence. "i" is ee not ai. We don't say psai but psee . Also we say "d" thelta (like the sound of the article the) for the sound of d we use the combination NT. And the letter T is called taf. Because the combination of a+u makes either f or v sound.
he went for the pronunciation of classical ages (5th century bC) which was different from the later Byzantine. But I agree with the i (ee). Also in classical Athens ει was already pronounced i or e, not ei. The rest of what he said is erasmian. What ruins it completely though, is the heavy american accent
Great teacher !! From Venezuela learning ancient Greek in 2021
Thank you！Learned ancient Greek 5 years ago and it is still so intriguing！（compared to Latin and ancient Hebrew，the ancient Greek is always my favorite😍😍
''restored classical pronunciation''?! Well, I would say it's more a "distortion'' of the classical pronunciation. It's really remarkable, why the western countries adopted a pronunciation was offered from a Dutchman (Erasmus) and ignored the pronunciation that the Greeks themselves used for their own language !
dejavuGR , yes indeed, he pronounce the diphtone ευ correct instead of what Erasmus did.
He pronounced it with Dutch diphtone ui
When I was in Greece, they were very suprised that we in Western European countries, pronounce the ευ in ancient Greek different, I explained them it is pronouncation according to Erasmus
Make a video and show us what you know instead of this saying of yours.
5:15 u forgot 'aight ima hed out'
Very good teaching, thank you sir, God bless you 🙏
I learned someting today in his presentatio. I learned about the diuresis, and I learned how to pronounce ui as oui in French. I have two years of Ancient Greek from the University of Michigan in Ann, Arbor Michigan, so to say I learned something new is really remarkable!
7:32 I know I'm going to be in for a great lesson when he says alpha is pronounced like the a in father and then pronounces the a in alpha like in cat or cake
When you’re studying engineering and you already know the Greek alphabet 😎
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It similar to i fenician berberi alphabet used by all mediterranean before Mohamed invasion
If you know the alphabet (part of it) but you don't know how to translate or speak it isn't very useful.
just because you know it doesn't mean you know how to use it :p Physics teaches the real way to use these letters :p
This man's performance is hilarious. No shade on his teaching of course.
I can't but dislike the aspiration in κ, π and τ. But I guess he's right that life is too short.
This is a jewel! A gold mine! The Greek alphabet with pronunciation, spoken words, diphthongs, split diphthongs, diacritical markings! I have never heard anyone else say that language is felt by all the senses (my summary). So correct! I am trilingual (English, German and Spanish) and I experience a change in personality depending on which language I speak. You deliver your lesson, slowly, patiently and with verve. I will of course subscribe to "The Great Courses Plus" to continue my study of Ancient Greek. This is a huge contribution to learning Ancient Greek.
I love it. Pls post the 2nd lecture for the benefit of all. You are doing a GREAT job.
Think the idea is to show you one lecture to peek your interest so you'll pay for the whole set of lectures.
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Yes he is doing a great job slaughtering the greek language
I think that Xi, Pi, Phi, Khi, Psi should have to be called Ksee, Pee, Phee, Khee as the Ancient Greeks didn't pronounce I as the Anglo-Saxons do... Same with Mu and Nu, in which the U seems to have been pronounced like the French U and the German Ü. However I'm French myself and I know that our pronounciation of Ancient Greek is also biaised.
I’m learning Ancient Greek and this tutorial has been a big help 👍🏻 does anyone know if this course is still available, it’s not clear on the website, thanks
Hi Charlie, yes, you can find it here: www.thegreatcoursesplus.com/ancient-greek-civilization
I think you are an excellent teacher. You make it fun, interesting and relevant. You are getting a lot of flack from our Modern eta centric Greeks who claim to have the correct pronunciation. I would advise them to listen to Old English and try to claim the same argument via Modern English. I don't want to give the impression that the Erasmian pronunciation is a truthful rendition of the way Greek sounded in Athens 2000 years ago but it is used in universities the world over. I can listen to an Iliad recital from an Indian, German or American and still understand it because they use a common standard. The only truth in pronunciation is that it is always changing. Listen to an 1888 recording of William Gladstone and you can hear the shifts of of little more than a hundred years.
The problem is that the "modern" Greek pronunciation is far closer to the "ancient" one than the Erasmian will ever be. There certainly has been a shift in both consonants and vowels over the centuries, but these changes are fairly well documented (give or take a century or two for each). The Erasmian pronunciation was never "accurate" to any degree and even Erasmus would attest that.
My family speaks an old form of Greek closer to Ancient rather than modern and it doesn't sound at all like Erasmian. Erasmian Greek is an old Dutch pronunciation of ancient greek.
The spelling may be correct but in the end of the day it's still a foreigner speaking it leaving a large possibility for mispronunciation.
I enjoyed n learned the Alpa n Omega❤ Great way of teaching Greek! 👍👌🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I have to know English just to understand better my own language. It is kind of sad but I am really happy at the same time for finding out this video.
This is the pronunciation that I learned in high school, and throughout the years I found that it did not seem to flow naturally with what I was reading. It's not real. I think you should commit to the authentic ancient pronunciation or at least modern Greek pronunciation if you want to claim that you are "speaking" the language.
Also it is veta,like in video ,beta is made by combining m(μ) with p(π) ,μπ.
It is very difficult for an American to pronounce a long ē or a long ō: they must say ‘ei‘ and ‘ou‘, pronouncing ē and ō as diphthongs, unless one has learned a modern language or Latin with good pronunciation.
Concerning the Erasmian pronunciation: It is not necessary to follow Erasmus to find a good ancient pronunciation, for we know from Latin many details of the pronunciation of the classical Greek:
1) Words beginning with Ἥρα are always written in Latin with ‘Hera‘ , not ‘Ira‘. E.g.: Hēraclēum, Hēraclīdēs. Greek ει could be transferred by i or e, as in ‘Alexandréa‘ or ‘Alexandría‘, i.e. it must have been in Greek between i and e.
2) Also, we know from Latin that β was always b, e.g. barbitos = βάρβιτος.
3) In classical times there was not yet the ‘spirantisation‘ of the tenues φ θ χ (ph th ch) (except θ in Doric, but that is not classical). Gellius tells us that Greek is more beautiful than Latin because it does not have the ‘ugly letter = littera foeda‘ f (“lingua Graeca est eo pulchrior quam Latina quod f litteram non habet“).
4) ει, η, ι, οι, υ, υι are in the Neogreek pronunciation all pronounced as i, what cannot be genuine. And if we study Greek in Germany, we have to translate into ancient Greek. If we used the Neogreek pronunciation we should make so many mistakes that it would be extremely impractical.
this is just little. is there a whole Playlist? links plz.
You are pronouncing all the letters with an English sound. So we are not learning Greek. One example, it's not "thaita" but "thehta". It's not ah-i-oh-uhta but "eeohtah". So, let's learn Greek, not "Anglo-Greek!
The pronunciation of ancient greek was different than the one we use now
though admittedly he has an american accent, that is to be expected
it's not that easy to learn how to pronounce and recognise phonemes that do not exist in your native language
also, the reason why greek loan words have such weird spellings in english is because that's how the used to be pronounced
take the word phoneme for example, this f sound used to be a aspirated p sound
why else would greek have so many letters for the same exact vowels
all this is a result thousands of years of mutating that merged all those sounds together
here's a wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotacism
modern greek is the best way to learn a greek accent way of speaking. However, modern greeks in my opinion do not speak like the ancient greeks. the pronunciation has changed. You can somewhat tell from the ancient greek. Also, each area had its own dialect and most likely somewhat accent, all of which is lost, except what we can get from studying the spelling inscriptions. So, in this case we have to accept that we may never know exactly.
@@quackduck4090 We don't know how ancient Greek sounded...
I'm Chinese and I used to work an live in Greece. Even I can tell he speaks American English rather than ancient Greek.
Of course he's speaking Greek. If a Greek person speaking English speaks it with a heavy Greek accent, are they not still speaking English?
Diphthongs are pronounced as "two utterances."
The difference in pronunciation between a monophthong and a diphthong may be subtle but it is there, as Sanskritists know.
This bloke's very present day in his teaching
I feel like watching Dionysus or Chiron.
PJ?
Rick riordan?
Wow! It's great lesson and excellent teaching for us!
9:15 Why is the α in γάμμα pronounced as in cat? Just 30 seconds earlier we were asked not to pronounce it that way.
That intro was amazing 👏
I love how he teaches
Excellent teaching! I am hooked! Been wanting to learn NT Greek forever, but never got down to it. Now in quarantine because of international travel, I am locked in to learn. ;) ;)
Thanks for your kind words, Anne! That's the best way to keep yourself entertained while you're quarantined. 😉 Never stop learning!
"Diacriticals" is adjectival. "Diacriticl is the nounal form. No "noun-adjective substantive," so to speak, is required.
How come your pronunciation of certain letters doesn't reflect their
Greek spelling? For example, you pronounce "alpha" with an "a" sound
like "cat" instead of "father." And you pronounce "iota" with an "i"
sound like "pie" instead of "police" or "hit." Please advise!
As far as I understand, the Finnish (or the Nordic) way to pronounce ancient Greek is rather accurate and very close to to the (restored) original. Pronouncing diphthongs and finding the difference between long and short wovels is very easy to Finns, because in our language (which is phonetically very conservative) these oppositions are important.
- I have seen here some videos where teatchers of modern "vernacular" Greek pronounce ancient Greek and they do so e.g. without paying attention to spiritus lenis or spirtus asper. / Jari J. Marjanen, Helsinki, Finland
The so called “Ancient Greek” is Pellasgian language , that people spread tru (today European territories and)
Same is for us Croatians. It is easy for us to pronounce all the letters. (Btw, I like Finnish:))
Μπράβο για την αγάπη στα αρχαία Ελληνικά όμως η προφορά του αλφαβήτου δεν είναι σωστή .Είναι όμως πολύ εύκολο να διορθωθεί .
I don't know how you manage to make ‹κοινή› sound like ‘queen A’
He pronounces it perfectly according to all ancient greek pronounciation guides I've seen.
Olaf Sorry it’s a year later,but he pronounces it wrong,the guides you’ve read cannot compare to real life language and in greece we don’t say K-o-ee-n-e but k-ee-n-ee
@@koulouris7303 How you pronounce it in modern Greece is irrelevant to how it was pronounced 2000 years ago.
Only 1000 years ago in English “Knight” would have been pronounced “K-nee-gh-t” where now it’s pronounced “Nite”, and “Knife” would have been “K-nee-ve”. A lot changes over time.
Ancient Greek has a completely different form of pronunciation than Modern Greek. It was basically made up by European scholars. It’s actually easier to learn for a lot of people since each letter has a unique sound while in Modern Greek some sound the same. There is a definite shift towards using Modern pronunciation today. People like this professor have been using this for decades though and it’s still the standard in academic contexts.
I think he has great style of the stuff
No sabía que la pronunciación del griego clásico era muy similar a la del inglés americano. I didn't know the classical Greek Pronunciation was very similar to current American English. Lol...
Very nice teaching methods😊
REALLY enjoyed this by the way.
Thanks for introducing vocabulary. It was great
I wish people would stop complaining about this video. It may not be perfect, but then, who is? At least he is trying to teach Greek and it is free when all said and done. If you feel you can do better, then please get your own channel here on RUclips and start teaching Ancient Greek yourselves, and for free as well. However, if none of you are willing to do that, then go and have a look at Bill Mounce, I really do like his videos, that is, William D Mounce, as he is really good at teaching Ancient Greek. Hopefully, you won't complain about him!
During the Roman Empire, Greek was actually the preferred language of the Roman upper classes when speaking among themselves.
Love your knowledge and pronunciation. Cheers.
I love this course.
Just as Greek texts can tell how Imperial Latin was pronounced Latin texts about Greek matters can show us how words in Attic Greek were pronounced.
Where is this guidebook he is talking about?
Hello, Samuel. By becoming a member of The Great Courses Plus you will have access to the guidebook depending on the format you've bought. The digital version comes with a free downloadable PDF, the DVD option (if available - on The Great Courses site, not plus) comes with a printed guidebook and downloadable PDF.
@@TheGreatCourses Thank you for letting me know. I think it's great that you are providing resources for people to learn Ancient Greek and many other things! Keep up the good work👍🏻
You are welcome, Samuel, and thank you for the great feedback. We appreciate it 😊.
Great ... even though his pronunciation cannot shake off the 'Anglic'
This guys lectures on The Pagan World are friggin fantastic.
@ 1:10
Honestly, the Greeks should have called it Pathos--which can mean "pain", and "suffering"
Is anyone else learning this not only for linguistics reasons and also being a science enthusiast(Knowing that science is an advanced language that is a smoothie of ancient greek, latin and english)?
And as expected, A lot of this is used by science and maths students every day like mu(micro) and delta(Change in) or lambda(wavelength)
We say "zed" for Z (in NZ). In the US they say Z which is o.k. Just something I am not used to.
Erasmus had some point.
About spme stuff he was probably correct.
The set is fine
Helpful info; glad I ran across this. Can't help but wonder if Θάλασσα is where Tallahassee's name came from (which is NOT on the coast hehe).
Will I be able to read Plato and the gospels in the original after this?
Thank you so much!
This was a really interesting lesson!!! I enjoyed it a lot!!!
That's great, we are glad to hear this!
ΣΥΓΧΑΡΗΤΗΡΙΑ !
I love this guy!
It's so hard to see a professor not even trying to reduce his accent.
Yuri Radavchuk Yeah man.
Awesome lesson 🫶
We are glad you liked it.
Great lecture where can I see lesson 2.
You have to buy it. This is an intro to the lecture series for sale with Great Courses.
The pronunciation of the greek alphabet is wrong in this video.
A = Alpha .
B = Veta .
Γ = gamma and g sounds like the word W(ay) - W(ay)amma .
Δ= delta and d sounds like the word TH(e) - TH(e)-elta .
Ε = epsilon .
Z= zeta .
H = eta
Θ = theta and th sounds like the word TH(anks) - TH(anks)eta
Ι = yo-ta
Κ = cappa
Λ = lamda. lam sounds like the word LAM(a) and da sounds like the word TH(e) -lam(a)th(e)a
M = me
N= ni. Ni sounds like the word ΝΙ(xon )
Ξ = xy. Χy sounds like the word (se)XY
O = omikron
Π = pe
Ρ= ro. Ro sounds like the word RO(mance)
Σ = seegma. G sounds like the word W(ay) seeW(ay)ma.
Τ = is pronounced exactly as the word tough
Υ = ypsilon
Φ= fee
X = he
Ψ = psi and sounds like the word (y)PSI(lon)
Ω =omega. G sounds like the word W(ay) OmeW(ay)a.
"logos" means "word," he says. But it also means "thought" and "collection," from the verb, "lego," "I collect." A collection is things combined, however loosely, one might say.
A collection of a couple of notions might make an idea.
Thus, "In the beginning was the thought; and the thought was with God; and the though was God." What does that mean? How does it differ from t'other?
Great lecture sir.
This is a fantastic lesson! I love you managed to explain some of the diacritical signs.
What study guide??? Where can I get it??
Thank you for the video! Amazing and motivating! I like your English a lot! And great teacher! One doesn’t have to be perfect in order to teach; it’s good enough to know how to give the knowledge further! And that’s exactly the case of this teacher! I like to study with him and don’t care about the accent: no one Ancient Greek will be angry with me about American accent, if I would be able to find the existing one at the meantime 😂
How can I get to see the following videos to this please?
Hi, you can find more info about this topic on our website. Click on the link in bio and simply search for the course you're looking for. Never stop learning!
@@TheGreatCoursesThanks!
this makes me wanna play Age of Mythology
These courses can do that. In this part of the office it can also kick off a few campaign missions from Zeus: Master of Olympus!
Is it possible or worth it to learn ancient greek on my own?
Can anyone tell me the spelling of his greeting? Does it mean 'welcome'? 'Hidete' or something similar. Thanks.
I love this guy
Anglophones have such a thick characteristic accent in whatever language they attempt to learn. It's remarkable.
I am disheartened in learning this ancient "Greek" pronunciation, which is so different from our Greek language and the Greek Divine Liturgy. How can Greek priests, who study this ungainly pronunciation in these classes, preach to the Greek people? They will make fun of them, I am sure. There is a disconnect here - between the scholars (who have decided upon themselves to slaughter the Greek pronunciation and teach it with arrogance, as if they have the right to do so ) and the traditional Greek that has been handed down from generation to generation. This course is an intellectual exercise and no more. I wouldn't call this a language, though, because it needs to be communicated, and it is not reaching the Greek speaking people, but a small sector of scholars.
Patty Apostolides do you know of any RUclips video that teaches and explains how to learn proper Ancient Greek? I’ve been looking for a while now, if you do know of some let me know. Thank you.
Geezy have you found one? yet??? at least this vids are good introduction though. WHy do you want to learn it?
He is certainly not teaching 'the Greek speaking peple'. Why would he? Homeric Greek pronunciation was entirely different from modern Greek pronunciation. It's a scientific fact, well established today.