RTX 2080 Ti Failure Analysis: Artifacting, Thermals, Black Screens, & Defects

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Researching the failure of a dozen or so RTX 2080 Tis, we narrowed the list down to the worst-artifacting Founders Edition cards.
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    Primary issues discussed in this piece include the following:
    - BSODs and crashes to desktop with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition cards
    - Artifacting with 2080 Ti Founders Edition cards
    - Firmware updates
    - Linux artifacting on RTX 2080 Tis
    - "Overheating" 2080 Tis (or the lack thereof), particularly the memory
    - 2080 Ti black screens and crashes / freezes
    - Memory and core downclocking
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  5 лет назад +66

    We are working on a recap of our 9980XE livestream! If you missed our previous 2080 Ti coverage, check out the peculiar and one-off 1350MHz lock here: ruclips.net/video/A0dRm5DqHWQ/видео.html
    Article: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3394-rtx-2080-ti-artifacting-failure-analysis-crashing-black-screens
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    • @sauravpradhan7881
      @sauravpradhan7881 5 лет назад

      rip GN

    • @ChrisInIndy06
      @ChrisInIndy06 5 лет назад

      @@sauravpradhan7881 wat¿

    • @bobhumplick4213
      @bobhumplick4213 5 лет назад

      they took all the rejects and sent them out anyway thinking they could just rma and replace them but it would help shore up numbers and get sales. they arent offering refunds they are offering replacements. companies do this all the time when they are short of product at launch. just like that movie with micheal keaton and the japanese car company

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  5 лет назад

      @@bobhumplick4213 they also offer refunds, you just need to ask for one.

    • @bobhumplick4213
      @bobhumplick4213 5 лет назад

      @@GamersNexus who exactly offers refunds? im sure the board partners do. but what about nvidia. and even if they do i bet it takes a month to get the money back. and then what gpu are they gonna buy? a 2080 or a 1080 ti. nvidia still wind either way. not really getting on the board partners case. their margins are razor thin. but nvidia im not so sure aabout

  • @MrGts92
    @MrGts92 5 лет назад +67

    Wow, just read a thread where a customer got charged by Zotac to send back his faulty card back to them. Gamer Nexus has stepped in and emailed Zotac on the customer's behalf for the ridiculousness of charging the customer for delivery....that is utterly amazing. Gamer Nexus you people are fantastic!!!

  • @EvilMonkeyAvenger
    @EvilMonkeyAvenger 5 лет назад +275

    Imagine spending 1300 on a GPU and it displays XD XD XD XD XD all across your screen...

    • @GholaTleilaxu
      @GholaTleilaxu 5 лет назад +19

      Then Nvidia trolled you good! xD

    • @RealistikDash
      @RealistikDash 5 лет назад +9

      Laughing at your financial choices

    • @BLKBRDSR71
      @BLKBRDSR71 5 лет назад +3

      XD

    • @cameronliddell9533
      @cameronliddell9533 5 лет назад +1

      i had my 1080ti do the space invader glitch lol

    • @milkevgaming
      @milkevgaming 4 года назад

      @Sean Price its pretty close to xD tho, and ppl want the meme
      ;) xD

  • @rayz9716
    @rayz9716 5 лет назад +214

    NVIDIA RTX QC: It just passes

    • @KelvinKMS
      @KelvinKMS 5 лет назад +7

      just passed the price point :P

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 5 лет назад +1

      CEO Jensen "It just works" Huang

    • @Pressed_For_Time
      @Pressed_For_Time 5 лет назад +2

      I can actually see them saying this shit as they roll right past him on the assembly line.. one by one..

  • @dickr9345
    @dickr9345 5 лет назад +721

    Why do we need GPUs anyway?
    You guys don't have phones?

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 5 лет назад +22

      👏👏👏

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 5 лет назад +67

      Why can no one say the quote right? It's "Do you guys not have phones!?"

    • @sturenorth
      @sturenorth 5 лет назад +3

      @@prich0382 ty, thought the same!

    • @michalm.3372
      @michalm.3372 5 лет назад +10

      @ Dick R My Nokia 3310 cant run snake at 160x120 @ 144Hz so i bought 2080 ti to do so.

    • @Dragondezznuts
      @Dragondezznuts 5 лет назад +3

      NO. NO. NO. THIS DID NOT GET 💯 LIKES. NO!

  • @calamityswag7673
    @calamityswag7673 5 лет назад +7

    This is a lot of really time consuming, expensive, and exhausting work you guys did. Good job.

  • @tipturkey1283
    @tipturkey1283 5 лет назад +32

    Got my GN Pint Glasses all the way in Australia, after drinking from them for a few days I can already feel my hair growing at an alarming rate

  • @CuteLittleMiku
    @CuteLittleMiku 5 лет назад +159

    Wait wtf is that WD Blue drive?

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  5 лет назад +139

      One of our viewers gave it to us! He shot it.

    • @specki5101
      @specki5101 5 лет назад +62

      @@GamersNexus MURICAAA

    • @MustangsbyMatt
      @MustangsbyMatt 5 лет назад +88

      It failed the extremely scientific 9mm test. I would not recommend using this drive for your bullet proof vest. I am currently testing 4tb WD Reds.

    • @Jason-hm1sc
      @Jason-hm1sc 5 лет назад +13

      @@MustangsbyMatt Be sure to share you bullet proof results.

    • @vrbobde
      @vrbobde 5 лет назад +10

      F

  • @TheCentaury
    @TheCentaury 4 года назад +3

    This is the most serious gaming technical channel I found so far... I've watched a lot of videos of other channels and of this specific channel and this guy goes deep into his subject. Thanks

    • @TheCentaury
      @TheCentaury 4 года назад

      @Mike Smith Your comment is stupid

  • @Kenny_Ded
    @Kenny_Ded 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you GN for doing the science and proper testing of both this and other topics. Cutting through the hype, rumor mills and internet hysteria... Keep up the great work guys.

  • @overdriveactive5486
    @overdriveactive5486 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the solid testing and troubleshooting done. I felt other channels were too quick to parrot the "too hot breaks card" line. None of them offered any proper testing or even an attempt at getting the facts. Great work as always :)

  • @Spexxos1
    @Spexxos1 5 лет назад +219

    Got my Asus 2080ti dual OC today. Played an hour... And its dead. FML

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 5 лет назад +14

      Feels bad, man. 😐

    • @victorchb1
      @victorchb1 5 лет назад +14

      playin on my msi ventus 2080 ti for 2 months now,8 Hours a day.works fine

    • @pgs9407
      @pgs9407 5 лет назад

      I feel your pain man.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 5 лет назад

      F

    • @HagueD22
      @HagueD22 5 лет назад +4

      Same boat man. Mine arrives back at asus on Monday. Then God knows how long

  • @briangardener8381
    @briangardener8381 5 лет назад +2

    As a RTX owner Little worried this is one of the channels you go well in depth and I appreciate it

  • @JesterWhoHelps
    @JesterWhoHelps 5 лет назад +12

    I went and bought a Duke RTX 2080 TI and it just fried less than a week in use.
    Artifacting and Space Invaders everywhere. Spent 1300 dollars and I got a brick.

  • @DukenukemX
    @DukenukemX 5 лет назад +12

    If I'm paying that much money for a graphics card, I would expect extensive testing so I'd have a nearly zero chance of running into a bad card.

  • @QTM1981
    @QTM1981 5 лет назад +3

    Just wanted to say thanks for covering this. Have RTX 2070 that exhibits the XD artifacts and just started the RMA process. I really appreciate the GN consumer protection coverage.

  • @daviddavidsonn3578
    @daviddavidsonn3578 5 лет назад +67

    >really expensive brick
    *looks at NVIDIA stock prices*
    oh boy, what a time to live in

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 5 лет назад +2

      I mean the Nvidia stock price was inflated in a pretty insane way due to speculators, who now all are dropping it.

    • @GeorgeNoiseless
      @GeorgeNoiseless 5 лет назад +5

      The drop in NVDA stock has more to do with disappointing earnings, the crypto bust and the overshipped unsold cards. Notice how AMD took a hit as well, though a much smaller one?
      The RTX doesn't seem to be on the investors radar much if at all.

    • @chrisvig123
      @chrisvig123 5 лет назад

      NVDA is not in a good place right now...wait for the fire sale😯

  • @somethingsinlife5600
    @somethingsinlife5600 5 лет назад +31

    The RMA 2000 Series.

  • @andrebenoit404
    @andrebenoit404 5 лет назад +7

    Negative stuff is often very vocal. If 0.5% of the buyers got a bad product you would believe it's closer to 20-25%

  • @Sleepy.Time.
    @Sleepy.Time. 5 лет назад +309

    never wise to buy the first batch of any new tech release unless you enjoy being a unpaid test dummy

    • @shamshirsound
      @shamshirsound 5 лет назад +17

      Truth

    • @aliabdallah102
      @aliabdallah102 5 лет назад +3

      S'truth

    • @Commodore4eva
      @Commodore4eva 5 лет назад +15

      What's technically multiple initial batches of the chips. Any chips in batch: 0322, 0323, 0324, 0325 are all faulty from a manufacturer level Issue this issue affected internals of the GPU chip. These chips were fine before stage II binning occurred; However, an internal indexing malfunction caused a huge discrepancy during the laser cut down and all chips were incorrectly binned so every TU102 Chip ended up with wrong product assignment It's just staged III binning for AIB partners chip shipments mitigated them from getting huge amounts of fully faulty chips outright. However, technically any TU102 Chip From those batches are faulty even if they don't fully fail, it's just they are high functioning. People in the industry know of the similar issue with TU106 chips; Within the next two weeks, Consumers will start Reporting failures of cards containing those chip since those have been shipped Late October early November.

    • @sol666
      @sol666 5 лет назад

      It's a truth u arrive at after owning and burning out many GPU but most new owners with money to burn or those who bought the marketing BS on an impulse think we are haters for telling them the truth.

    • @darkwing5458
      @darkwing5458 5 лет назад +2

      That's why I wait at least one year before I purchase gpu's and consoles.

  • @tonn333
    @tonn333 5 лет назад +19

    Nvidia is laughing at how they can sell such expensive cards. They decided to show it by creating these xD "artifacts". Some are upside-down this is to express that they are rolling in laughter.

  • @DesumetaruLiadz666
    @DesumetaruLiadz666 5 лет назад +95

    Failures, high price, RTX:ON FPS:GONE, AMD has an opportunity to strike deep and wound the already self wounded beast, but i somehow doubt they will ever release something interesting....

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +8

      It really makes me worry about the entire industry.

    • @stardustreverie9737
      @stardustreverie9737 5 лет назад +1

      Consider how many gtx 1080 ti they sold.

    • @AdrianMuslim
      @AdrianMuslim 5 лет назад +7

      And they released RX 590 lol

    • @weesenpai9056
      @weesenpai9056 5 лет назад +4

      amd strike with RX590 which is bad.

    • @saladwithsalad
      @saladwithsalad 5 лет назад +7

      @@weesenpai9056 90%+ of people have midrange cards.It isn't bad,you are just stupid.

  • @Dracossaint
    @Dracossaint 5 лет назад +104

    Supposidely a 2080 ti has caught fire today.

    • @jasongooden917
      @jasongooden917 5 лет назад +7

      LTT right?

    • @colynrobinson212
      @colynrobinson212 5 лет назад +28

      That's a fucking expensive fire starter log.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 5 лет назад

      @@jasongooden917 I caught the thumbnail yes, didn't watch it yet tho.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 5 лет назад

      @@colynrobinson212 righhtttt, now who's got the hot coco

    • @Aleww
      @Aleww 5 лет назад +4

      Surprised it came from an EVGA card.

  • @cocosloan3748
    @cocosloan3748 5 лет назад +2

    I cant stress enough how GOOD OF A JOB you did!Analyses are spot on. Thanks a lot!

  • @mataznuiz
    @mataznuiz 5 лет назад +95

    What the heck happened to the hard drive

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  5 лет назад +71

      A viewer shot it with a glock!

    • @Aleww
      @Aleww 5 лет назад +32

      He should of shot his 2080 Ti

    • @MustangsbyMatt
      @MustangsbyMatt 5 лет назад +17

      I'm testing bullet resistant properties of hard drives. :)

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +2

      What caliber?

    • @MustangsbyMatt
      @MustangsbyMatt 5 лет назад +15

      Cavey I tested 124 grain +P 9mm from a Glock 19.

  • @obscured021
    @obscured021 5 лет назад +13

    My card just failed ,Christmas prez for myself that failed on Christmas day, it was a EVGA black 2080Ti

    • @wplno1
      @wplno1 5 лет назад

      Same card, same thing Xmas present to myself. Just failed with these space invaders and now just black screen. Guess it's why it's a black edition!

  • @milohajek
    @milohajek 4 года назад +3

    Great video Steve, i find it stunning that nVidia would let such a potentially terrible problem pass QC

    • @milohajek
      @milohajek 4 года назад

      "QC" my ASrock, or ECS motherboards.....I used to do RMA for a large company, and you could pretty much tell after 3-5 years of doing RMAs which companies just slap a "QC" sticker on, and which actually do some form of quality control, even if its randomly pulling one out of every hundred off the line and testing them, to the high end "Porsche". "Lamborghini" and other company like QC where your car gets a true test before you even get it in your hands. Or perhaps like Koenigsegg or Pagani who (and i am doing a car price vs GPU price sort of comparison here, where your typical Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc have 1 out of every so many pulled off the line and spot checked and you pay $30k to $50k for their cars OR you shell out $100k to $1,000.000 or more and your car gets a true comprehensive check, heck, even a $113,780 Porsche 911 Carerra gets a few miles on the engine and drive train at the various Porsche factories, yeah i know a guy that actually does that as his day job, he insists that it becomes slightly less exciting after a few years but still to know that your car gets that kind of QC (and i am not saying that Porsche is perfect, they are not, they have silly flaws and fault codes that stem from to many electronics, but then again all those electronics are what let 20 something year old youtubers with more money than driving experience buy one of their cars and do 190+ MPH or tack it to the track and look like a rockstar, yeah, driver aids have come a long way. anyway back to my point, if you buy a Sapphire 3GB GPU for $50 or a PowerColor GTX for $65 you are not going to get that piece of mind QC check, you might get a sticker, as Steve pointed out, but it is doubtful that your card was actually checked, now if you buy a $23,824 HP nVidia Quadro GV100 or a Lenovo Tesla V100 with 32GB HBM2 for $23,710, or a Quadro GP100 with 16GB HBM2 for $6,792, or even these RTX 2080, 2080 TI, etc for $1,289, $1,379 or the $2,479 RTX 2080 Titan with a lowly 11GB of RAM then you expect, no you deserve to have a actual quality control test performed on your card before having it boxed and shipped, its the way it should be but it seems that some companies....cough, cough, nVidia, cough, are getting a lot lax, to the point of wondering how many millennials are actually working there that such a large scale, 9-10% of these cards tend to suffer from these problems, are "working" there, and by "working" there i mean they take selfies, post on twitter, facebook and basically do the bare minimum for a massive salary and it is completely unacceptable for a company as large as nVidia to let something like this fly by and then to top it off, to give their buyers and loyal followers a bunch of hoops to jump through, i would be calling my credit card company or bank and having that charge reversed and simply sending the obviously flawed product back. So there it is in my long winded glory, hope you got something out of this, and if you like my comments, research, life experience with IT, networks, parts, telecommunications and more, then let me know, join my hobby shop channel and tell me to start a "my real world experience channel" as i have been doing this I.T. and computer related stuff for over 32+ years and there are massive amounts of stories i could tell, now the question is do you want to hear them, simple things like the Best Buy Geek Squad techs telling me that the laptop i was buying (that comes with 8GB of RAM) is only up-gradable to 16GB, when i darn well know (by researching the chipset) that it can handle 32GB, guess who was right? Yup, me, granted the OS needed a update to fully recognize it, unless you like the PC properties screen saying 16GB of 32 usable everytime you look at it, but after the update, straight up 32GB RAM available. so there it is, my current channel focuses mainly on a side hobby of restoring old slot car racers, but i would like to share some of my loads of experience as you cannot learn most of this in a classroom, as Steve could probably attest to as well. I look forward to your comments, and potential subscribstions.

  • @Aggrofool
    @Aggrofool 5 лет назад +34

    F to the gentleman who got the "Worst Card"

  • @pandabuttonftw745
    @pandabuttonftw745 5 лет назад +63

    All this stuff has still really scared me off buying an RTX card. Definitely NOT buying into this gen.

    • @MustardGamings
      @MustardGamings 5 лет назад +7

      Just dont buy reference cards buy custom cards, I have the 2080ti strix and never had 1 faulty issue

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 5 лет назад +4

      To be fair, it seems to be mostly cards that eitheir use a 2080 ti fe board or the founder edition cards themselves. Also why would ya need a 20 seriers card, I'm generally curious?

    • @Aleww
      @Aleww 5 лет назад +1

      Mustard Gaming custom EVGA XC ultra caught on fire.

    • @MustardGamings
      @MustardGamings 5 лет назад +2

      @@Dracossaint well I'm a fanboy of strix by asus , and a 1080ti is going for same price as a 2080 strix for same fps so might as well just sell my 1080 and buy a strix 2080ti I dont care about ray tracing, I mainly interested in the nvlink and its potential

    • @OnlyTidus
      @OnlyTidus 5 лет назад

      @@MustardGamings yeah my zotac 2080ti has been doing great playing fo4vr right now retired my 1080ti

  • @Liam-B
    @Liam-B 5 лет назад +5

    That "XD" artifact is just hilarious.

  • @2Eld0rADo
    @2Eld0rADo 5 лет назад +1

    thanks for taking the time to do the test

  • @nUKerATsKi
    @nUKerATsKi 5 лет назад +3

    Outstanding topic and explanation my friend. Thanks for the share, channel and content.

  • @MrMercurybullet
    @MrMercurybullet 5 лет назад +6

    In my 40 years of overclocking I've only ever seen artifacting like this with core issues. Im skeptical its ram.

  • @Ash-cd3ny
    @Ash-cd3ny 5 лет назад +14

    This was Nvidias halloween treat for brand loyalty?

  • @reaktorleak89
    @reaktorleak89 5 лет назад +5

    So the big price increase made users more vocal about the issues they experienced. And nVidia had faulty drivers, making the number of issues higher on top of that. Makes perfect sense! Thanks for being so calm and meticulous.

  • @southerncomfort3543
    @southerncomfort3543 4 года назад +6

    Damn a whole year later, guess I just bought one of the XD leftovers

  • @peterpanopoulos4431
    @peterpanopoulos4431 5 лет назад +14

    Awesome channel. ✌️😎

  • @tulliobellia3104
    @tulliobellia3104 5 лет назад +38

    Best you tuber ever...

  • @CryptoData
    @CryptoData 5 лет назад +1

    Very thorough review! Well done sir

  • @guillote6679
    @guillote6679 5 лет назад +93

    RTX = Real Trash Xperience

  • @Shadowbat.o_O
    @Shadowbat.o_O 5 лет назад +26

    How the mighty have fallen. I miss 3dfx

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 5 лет назад

      Those were the days! I've had a Voodoo 3 3000 3D accelerator (AGP of course!). I remember how ecstatic I was to have my very first 3D accelerator installed. Played every game like a champ (most of which ran like slide-shows without it).

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 5 лет назад

      I don’t miss anything about not having anisotropic filtering. Straight bilinear or trilinear looks worse to me than unfiltered (nearest). Ati R300 was the shit; that’s wheb anisotropic became almost free (only applied where needed). Biggest single jump in graphics quality since ever; anisotropic existed since at least geforce 3, probably even geforce 2 and maybe even geforce 1, but it was dog slow.

    • @kozad86
      @kozad86 5 лет назад

      It lives on in nVidia - they bought it.

    • @ianh43
      @ianh43 5 лет назад +1

      Ah yes, still on top with the fastest GPUs, pushing the envelope with new features, and I don't know if you watched the video - the RMA rates are normal. But fallen, sure! Whatever.

    • @Musicreach101
      @Musicreach101 5 лет назад

      Monster 3DFX

  • @VatnOrmr
    @VatnOrmr 5 лет назад +3

    Yep... My Gigabyte 2080 Ti just died after a week of ownership, started getting artifacts, then blue screens, then freezes, until it just wouldn't work at all.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 5 лет назад +1

    Since the artifacting cards all show the same artifact pattern on cards with that particular issue, it has to be a systemic failure instead of a random one. I'm thinking something along the lines of a phase margin (stability) issue on the VRAM VRM leading to command/address decoding errors and invalid read/write commands producing the "XO" pattern.

  • @mrtoes8267
    @mrtoes8267 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome info on these cards. I have seen a friends do it a few times while doing a Premiere Pro "Video Render"

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.1 5 лет назад +15

    RMA rates are one thing, but when a large chunk of them are for Catastrophic design flaws/SIDS, that’s anything but normal.
    It may be normal rates of issues, but the severity of issues & the surrounding details easily account for the uproar/panic

  • @MrPnhartley
    @MrPnhartley 5 лет назад +3

    I’ve seen other streams where their conclusion is that the cards with Micron brand memory are failing. Do the failed(ing) cards have that in common?

    • @techbuildspcs
      @techbuildspcs 5 лет назад

      Micro. Memory sucks. GTX 1070s has issues because of it. I hate micron. My 1070 suffered from this.

  • @Diddyo007
    @Diddyo007 5 лет назад +1

    My Titan RTX arrived DOA Aug 2019 with error code 43, just got the new one back from RMA yesterday and this one works! I never thought it would happen to me and I've been buying nvidia cards since the BFG 8800 GT!

  • @chrisnorman1183
    @chrisnorman1183 5 лет назад

    "spent $1200 and got a brick" I fucking rolled off my chair laughing Steve! Thanks mate !

  • @fatarsemonkey
    @fatarsemonkey 5 лет назад +5

    They are Lara Croft Easter egg cards, you found the artifact!

  • @killacamfoo
    @killacamfoo 5 лет назад +7

    This launch is an enormous fail.

    • @ianh43
      @ianh43 5 лет назад

      2080ti is still sold out everywhere so not sure what you're basing that on

  • @MrEpic86
    @MrEpic86 5 лет назад +1

    I actually had 3 faulty rtx 2080ti cards with thermal problems with the vram. While the card itself only registered 68°c but the back plate measured 94°c when measured with a thermometer and c-clip thermometer which was pretty crazy.

  • @lewiscleveland4661
    @lewiscleveland4661 5 лет назад

    Back in the day when we had similar problems we audited board-level components and found up to 3% a specific foundry had DOA components or early fail components. Turned out the foundry stopped doing batch testing.

  • @sanietariq
    @sanietariq 5 лет назад +8

    can you please make an updated video for this, as RTX 2080 Tis and 2070 are dying at an alarming rate. I checked Amazon and Newegg reviews on RTX cards, 50% had their cards fail on them. That's a lot.

    • @mattmcclune5113
      @mattmcclune5113 5 лет назад

      I literally just got a desktop with rtx 2070, updated my drivers launched sottr and artifacting 3/7/19

    • @sanietariq
      @sanietariq 5 лет назад +1

      @@mattmcclune5113 oh no! :( sad to hear that. Through GPU-Z check which memory it has, Micron or Samsung, if you are RMAing it, insist on getting Samsung one.
      I had a Gigabyte rtx 2070, but i returned it before it would die, and got evga xc ultra one and insisted them to give me from the latest batch, they did and it has samsung memory, playing metro exodus since 3 - 4 days, it's running great.

    • @Mr16emmanuel
      @Mr16emmanuel 5 лет назад +2

      Got my zotac rtx 2080 ti, died in less than a week. Now they’re sending me an Asus one fingers crossed 🤞

    • @sanietariq
      @sanietariq 5 лет назад

      @@Mr16emmanuel when did you buy your 2080ti? this month? Sad to hear it though.
      When you receive your Asus one, quickly check which memory it has, if it's Samsung then it'll work fine, but if it's Micron, then it's a red flag. Insist on getting one from the newest batch.

    • @TheDevestatorX
      @TheDevestatorX 5 лет назад

      So RTX 2080 is safe then?

  • @morpheus9137
    @morpheus9137 5 лет назад +6

    Can now play space invaders at 8k 300fps, It Just Works !

  • @cdurkinz
    @cdurkinz 5 лет назад +1

    Good info and testing, thanks.

  • @martininsley5041
    @martininsley5041 4 года назад +2

    It's been a year since this came out, I won a 2080 ti from nvidia a month ago and just got it, aaaaand it had this issue.

  • @GreenCrusher1968
    @GreenCrusher1968 5 лет назад +30

    It has to work because, Nvidia even said: It Just Works!!! lol

    • @higashi6969
      @higashi6969 5 лет назад +3

      isnt it funny that the one year nvidia decides to make "it just works" one of their key sayings, there are failing cards all over the place from performance to hardware to software.

    • @jojj334Q
      @jojj334Q 5 лет назад

      Does Gameworks...just work?

    • @shredderorokusaki3013
      @shredderorokusaki3013 5 лет назад +1

      @@jojj334Q MY 970 just works!my 4 years old GTX 970 G1 GAMING STILL WORKS PERFECTLY FINE(BOUGHT IT NOVEMBER 2014) AND STILL PLAYING EVRYTHING MAX SETTINGS 1440P 30+ FPS SOME GAMES EVEN 60 FPS!

    • @chadbrick67
      @chadbrick67 5 лет назад

      It just catches fire

  • @smittygadgets8512
    @smittygadgets8512 5 лет назад +14

    This is ridiculous... I know not everything is perfect at launch but seriously... even had one burst into flames today. With all these issues I’m definitely not interested in this card anymore.... taking my 1080 ti off the Letgo posting..

  • @sbn025
    @sbn025 4 года назад

    very informative steve!!! Kudos! great job!

  • @bradmorri
    @bradmorri 5 лет назад +2

    @steve did you measure the PCIe slot voltage delivery? Pascal had different cards that pulled differing levels of power from the PCIe slot, some of which were over spec. (Palit/gainward from memory)
    Could these cards be trying to pull more than 75 watts and running into a limitation of the motherboard to supply the additional power over PCIe slot?

  • @fishandbike
    @fishandbike 5 лет назад +2

    BSOD with any 2080 card while flying in ARK. Very common problem!

  • @nossy232323
    @nossy232323 5 лет назад +5

    I wonder how many of those cards will die over time. I wouldn't feel comfortable having one, knowing it can stop working any time at any time in the future.

  • @jupitersailing6911
    @jupitersailing6911 5 лет назад

    Steve & GN Team, thank you for being one of the most scientific and investigative RUclips channels for PC hardware. Your devotion to this community and love for the work you do are unrivaled, and we thank you for your service.

  • @CJsGamingAndLife
    @CJsGamingAndLife Год назад

    It's interesting to come across this video as I picked one up today with this exact problem, after a good dig around I realised that the weight of the gpu and the heating and cooling cycles may have caused cracked solder joints on the memory nearest the pcie slot.
    So I then reworked the 3 memory chips, reassembled the card and supported it in the pc case and fingers crossed the issue is no longer there.

  • @TechAlivePT
    @TechAlivePT 5 лет назад +27

    Thats What you get for being a fool to even consider buying crap at premium rates.insane,600 or 700$ was expensive enough for high end cards.over the years just got tired of being exploited.im out.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 5 лет назад +2

      Ah yes, the fool that wants 60 fps at 4k (they really are a fool if they thought a single GPU could do that!), but at least they tried.... That's like saying you're a fool if you spend $400 on a 240 Hz monitor (which would be totally sick), just because its a premium product. Its not someone's fault if that company just sucks at quality (ever hear of performance cars? Known for their reliability aren't they... But when they work, they are so much more fun than a mom's mini-van!).
      I wouldn't buy RTX 2080ti, if they gave me 2x of them, I'd probably just blow them up on LN2 and switch back to something reliable like my 4x R9 Fury because the drivers don't suck. Or I might give them away, not sure.

    • @TechAlivePT
      @TechAlivePT 5 лет назад +8

      @@jakegarrett8109 Ray tracing 4k 25fps.jolly fun.

    • @zacharystevens6193
      @zacharystevens6193 5 лет назад +1

      @@TechAlivePT It cant do Raytracing at 4k so what you said doesn't make sense. Also the people that bought the 2080ti's are the same consumers that buy Titan cards.

    • @W4itgaming
      @W4itgaming 5 лет назад

      @@jakegarrett8109 are there even any 4k monitors at 240 hz?

    • @myaccount__7269
      @myaccount__7269 5 лет назад +3

      Jake Garrett what you talking about...my 1070 does bf5 4k @ rock solid 60 fps. Had to lower a few things to medium but still looks awesome and runs at 60 fps. Not worth an extra $1200 to run at ultra instead of high in most games.

  • @IcarusTECH
    @IcarusTECH 5 лет назад +3

    So should we still be avoiding 20xx cards? Reviews on tons of sites don't show anything good for any of them :(

    • @zrated3505
      @zrated3505 5 лет назад +1

      IcarusLSC avoid them like the plague right now. They’re a dumpster fire of instability.

    • @pentiummmx2294
      @pentiummmx2294 3 года назад

      nvidia's QC is really plummeting.

  • @fangzea
    @fangzea 5 лет назад +1

    Just got a 2070 and it bricked in 1 week. This issue is not over yet.

  • @Appalling68
    @Appalling68 5 лет назад +2

    Freakin EXCELLENT analysis.

  • @pam0077
    @pam0077 5 лет назад +4

    I bought a RTX 2080 ti for $1250 and all I got was this brick with a pretty, RGB heatsink on it.

  • @crazy_awesome_dad45
    @crazy_awesome_dad45 5 лет назад +3

    I have it happen to me. I just spent 2500 on my computer and cyberpower sent me a graphics card doesn't work. I just code 43

    • @ittbelitt8409
      @ittbelitt8409 4 года назад

      crazy_awesome_dad45 _ sameee It can’t detect the graphics card it has red lines on display

  • @steverox13
    @steverox13 5 лет назад

    Thank you for playing such a critical role in the community and helping out.

  • @kasperimesimaki3686
    @kasperimesimaki3686 5 лет назад +2

    Same things happen with the 2070 cards, I just bought mine and after around 10 hours of usage it black screens... after restarting the PC and booting to windows the screen goes black once I got past the loading screen. Tried re-installing drivers and whatnot in safe mode and even going as far as re-installing windows... re-seating the card, trying out another PCI-E slot and the same shit happens every time. NICE!

    • @Roshke
      @Roshke 5 лет назад

      I had mine for a month Gigabyte Windforce, first I had those artifacts and now it doesn't boot anymore...

    • @olav8679
      @olav8679 5 лет назад

      Same issue for me, 2080 ti Gigabyte OC. Did DDU, didn't help. System sometimes reboots properly after quick Safety Mode boot reboot. Driver throws error code 43 now and then. 1600$ here :(

    • @Roshke
      @Roshke 5 лет назад

      @SoulsFN Mine is at Gigabyte for a month already

  • @ChokDK-bryllupsmusik-duo
    @ChokDK-bryllupsmusik-duo 5 лет назад +6

    Q: Steve - Different ram - any pattern?
    A friend of mine bought a 2080 (not ti though) and it is already shipped with Samsung RAM.
    I guess different ram manufacturers is also the case for the ti version then.
    Did you actually check that out?
    Greetings from DK :)

    • @Addy187a1
      @Addy187a1 5 лет назад +1

      It his 2080 still working to this day?

    • @t0mn8r35
      @t0mn8r35 4 года назад

      I have a 2070 with Samsung RAM and i have artifacts.

  • @StriKe_jk
    @StriKe_jk 5 лет назад +4

    RMA Rates are skewed because the cards arent even old enough to fail.
    Only RMA rates for products that exist for 2 years are properly valid IMO.

    • @themightychinful
      @themightychinful 5 лет назад

      This. RMA rates after a few months, riiight. Give it time and we'll see how they perform. I wont be taking a risk and buying one though.

    • @morpheus9137
      @morpheus9137 5 лет назад

      NVidia had a process issue with chips a few years back, class action lawsuit and mass returns in US. Rest world got nothing, had to bin my DELL laptop as geforce chip no good. I won't even buy laptops with discreet GPU anymore.

  • @Aquineas
    @Aquineas 5 лет назад

    Well done. It's clear you folks put in a lot of time on this.

  • @Spacemonkeyover
    @Spacemonkeyover 5 лет назад

    Why did 53 people give a thumbs down? This video is providing important information that is not common

  • @Lofi-Life_
    @Lofi-Life_ 5 лет назад +4

    Oh hi guys.

  • @mindnova7850
    @mindnova7850 5 лет назад +55

    DAMN. RTX was a mistake.

    • @baronsengir187
      @baronsengir187 5 лет назад +2

      How so?

    • @Hyperus
      @Hyperus 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah how so?

    • @tomo8324
      @tomo8324 5 лет назад

      I think he mean that it should be a good graphic card with new technology and good price but it turn itself into expensive brick instead

    • @ToriRocksAmos
      @ToriRocksAmos 5 лет назад +1

      @@baronsengir187 Haven't you seen the benchmarks? Cuts your fps in half / down to a third for slightly prettier puddles in BF.

    • @baronsengir187
      @baronsengir187 5 лет назад

      @@ToriRocksAmos Yes i have seen the benchmarks and i am excited to see what the other games can produce. And what can be optimized in bf5.

  • @bdcbenjie
    @bdcbenjie 5 лет назад +1

    It just happened to me with the msi gaming x trio. Literally the same day out of the box, It got to the point where I couldn’t run a benchmark without an artifacting hard crash

  • @talon1706
    @talon1706 5 лет назад +1

    I plan to keep my Rog Strix 1080ti for quite a while. The latest gen cards are too expensive for me.
    I bought this a year and a half ago with the intention of getting into VR.
    I finally got my Rift S and the 1080ti runs it very smooth.

  • @JohnSmith-yx8kf
    @JohnSmith-yx8kf 5 лет назад +30

    Reddit jumping to conclusions? Well I never...

  • @Q_thulu
    @Q_thulu 5 лет назад +3

    I've seen a poll putting 2080ti failure at around 10%

  • @Two-StrokeLife
    @Two-StrokeLife 5 лет назад +1

    I was just wondering about the RMA failure percentage. Are they basing this on total units produced, total units sold to distributors/retailers (that may be in inventory but not necessarily in the field) or actual 100% customer units in the wild. There are easy ways to make the numbers look "in the norm".

  • @BremstonesGaming
    @BremstonesGaming 5 лет назад

    I hope these companies appreciate you doing the ground work

  • @mataznuiz
    @mataznuiz 5 лет назад +45

    No matter how many times you explain that RMA rates are normal there will always be a mob saying otherwise

    • @dickrichard99
      @dickrichard99 5 лет назад +3

      Bunch Berge That mob is the people who had to RMA Einstein.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  5 лет назад +29

      Large parts of the mob do deserve to make noise, to be fair. It'd suck to get a brick and wait a month for a replacement. Some of the customers we were speaking with have had issues getting timely replacements, particularly in non-US regions.

    • @ChrisInIndy06
      @ChrisInIndy06 5 лет назад +6

      @@GamersNexus I can't even imagine what would happen to my friends in Australia have issues with their 2080TIs from US manufacturers. That's probably months of downtime for them if that happens.

    • @shae2330
      @shae2330 5 лет назад +5

      I'd say majority of the mob don't even own an RTX but are rather pissed off about the pricing. Others will probably be outraged regardless.

    • @andrewstout5400
      @andrewstout5400 5 лет назад +7

      @@GamersNexus The Mob aren't the ones with bricks, they're failure-cheerleaders. The "Mob" Can't be the ones with bricks, if the Failure rates are so normal/low.

  • @PackardBelltoll
    @PackardBelltoll 5 лет назад +9

    2080 ti flirting with disaster. 1200 dollar brick and rtx on reduces card performance and is not a 4k rtx card. 1200 without rtx at 4k waste .

    • @solarstrike33
      @solarstrike33 5 лет назад

      The Overclocker They haven’t been at this low since Fermi...

    • @ZombieLincoln666
      @ZombieLincoln666 5 лет назад

      Flirting With Disaster is a great movie

  • @asphere8
    @asphere8 3 года назад

    My 2080Super started getting black screens yesterday. Underclocking it by 100MHz seems to have resolved the issue for now, but it's interesting that it didn't develop the issue until now.

  • @dethskullcrusher
    @dethskullcrusher 5 лет назад +1

    If you take in consideration the gunned HDD on the desk and the Nvidia 7800GT, the video is full of easter eggs!

  • @dazzlerweb
    @dazzlerweb 5 лет назад +2

    it just works.........oh wait...

  • @2000cobraguy
    @2000cobraguy 5 лет назад +17

    Sound like a rushed release.
    The mighty 1080ti is still the king.

    • @Hellbryan1
      @Hellbryan1 5 лет назад +2

      2000cobraguy Hail the legend, hail the 1080 ti

    • @Axern89
      @Axern89 5 лет назад +5

      Seriously is. Solid card for half the price. This gen is half baked.

    • @TheCgOrion
      @TheCgOrion 5 лет назад +1

      That's why I'm keeping mine and my 1080 in my other system. Great cards. No need to upgrade yet.

    • @chrisjara999
      @chrisjara999 5 лет назад +3

      1080ti actually had a higher failure rate.

    • @GucciGamerTV
      @GucciGamerTV 5 лет назад +4

      How is 1080ti the king when the 2080ti outperforms it? 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @ryvengeance6467
    @ryvengeance6467 5 лет назад +1

    RMA rates may be normal but are they normal for (seemingly) the same defect? Maybe the reason this defect has received so much coverage is because it is more common that other defects. Saying that RMA rates are the same just seems like an easy way to write it off.

  • @patrocks9
    @patrocks9 5 лет назад +1

    Yup my RTX 2070 just died... working on RMA with gigabyte. Definatley still an issue. Had artifacting that got progressively worse. Also had the gsync issue.

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 5 лет назад +6

    Gotta love the comments!
    Steve: We talked to partners in the industry and RMA rates are normal
    Comments: That's not correct. RMA rates are not normal. I have no basis for this claim, I simply hate these cards so I'm right and you're wrong.
    🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 5 лет назад +5

    I dunno, not every reference 2080ti is dying... but seems to me the RMA return rate is a mistake, the rate would be normal for an entire year.. not month. The dust over this will not settle for months. The types who buy these ultra pricey cards are rich people who often just buy stuff to have it and leave it for months till their next off day where they can be home. I know these types and I would say 80% of individually purchased Titan V's have likely spent most of their life not powered on for days/weeks. Kinda like their six figure sports cars.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 5 лет назад

      Seems to you it's a mistake based on what? Fanboyism? Hatred of the card and a desire to see it fail?
      I know it's not from talking to retailers and manufacturers, because that's what Steve did to find out that rates are normal.

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 5 лет назад

      @mjc0961
      next time you try to call someone out for being a fanboy, try to not be such a fragile fanboy about it. I own a 2080 you moron.

    • @ZombieLincoln666
      @ZombieLincoln666 5 лет назад

      Seb E The RMA rate is a ... rate. That means the period of time is divided out. The rate would (ideally) be the same for a year vs a month

  • @EvilTurkeySlices
    @EvilTurkeySlices 5 лет назад +1

    Is that an HD 7850 ghost edition in the background? I love me some HD 7000 series.

  • @HEMANTKUMAR-rg5sx
    @HEMANTKUMAR-rg5sx 5 лет назад +1

    Gamer nexus do you think that rtx is a failure as the card had been launched to a very high price ,most of them are dying and the main point i.e. ray tracing and the cards wasnt able to play 60fps at 1080p with ray tracing.I was thinking to build a pc with new rtx cards but now i am going with old gtx

  • @mlentsch
    @mlentsch 5 лет назад +2

    hahaahhaa! nvidia's SO greedy! hahaha!

    • @DragonProtector
      @DragonProtector 5 лет назад +1

      www.hardocp.com/news/2018/11/14/evga_2080_ti_xc_catches_fire_in_spectacular_fashion

  • @A_G420
    @A_G420 5 лет назад +4

    glad I didn't buy one. Rather get a Vega 64 for less performance for a card that works

    • @TheCgOrion
      @TheCgOrion 5 лет назад

      You could also snag a used 1080 ti, have great performance, and a card that works. I got mine for $515.

    • @Venom012
      @Venom012 5 лет назад

      @Untermensch I can think of a reason if your in the UK or Europe, the price differences are quite big here between Vega and 1080's in general, I managed to finally upgrade from my R9 290 to a Vega 64 for £399, 1080's go for £530 to £600 and the 1080 ti... well £640 - £860... at least here in the UK (all new prices I should mention, too many miner cards on the second hand market, rather have the warranty)

  • @azariaharnold1991
    @azariaharnold1991 5 лет назад +3

    I had a Gigabyte RTX 2080 Ti and it died after 3 days. Tons of artifacting until my computer could not start up properly past the login screen anymore. :'(

    • @OfficialBunKaaH
      @OfficialBunKaaH 5 лет назад +1

      im having this same issue, i have a trio 2080ti, does your windows loading circle stretch all over the screen before it crashes when logging in???

  • @jumpinspider6489
    @jumpinspider6489 5 лет назад

    QC is expensive - in my opinion the manufacturer let this part left to the customers.
    Probably it's less expensive to change the returned cards...
    Thanx Steve for your always great work!