Story 1- The son & DIL are upset because they think OP is spending THEIR inheritance. OP should update his will ASAP because greedy son/DIL are already spending HIS money in their heads
And I think he should go through the professional means to fire his son. I don’t think there would be a problem since it sounds like OP has proof that he doesn’t work.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nat was her only friend after driving the rest of Kelly’s friends away. While I’m glad OP booted the friends calling him an AH after the update, I think he should’ve done that sooner. That way he wouldn’t have this guilt and feel like he should provide Kelly with six months of free rent.
Kelly chose her toxic friend over OP, but he's meant to take her back because she's now learned that what a bad choice? Boohoo. If she was living off OP for the time they were together, he was the only reason she stayed afloat in the first place.....The update is ridiculous. DON'T PAY HER RENT FFS.
Thy have the right (in some places) to have input BUT that just means an interview in chambers, the reasons matter more than the opinion to be frank. A teen might say they want dad because he lets them do more of what they want but the judge may see the school records that show they don’t have good grades or attendance while with dad and rule for mom despite kid saying dad etc.
Not in every state and if the kids are getting dinner just not what they want it's not neglect they are being feed 3 meals a day at mom and step dads. Have you even thought about what would happen if ops dad got full custody the mon would be on child support making that situation in her home worse. Even though op is not the asshole calling CPS in this situation is like using a nuke to kill a fire ant nest
Leave Kelly to the streets. She broke up with you and only came crawling back when everything went to crap. Op told her about the problem, Op told her about how he feels, Op even gave her an ultimatum. She still didn't care and accused Op of being controlling and abusive. It took losing everything to figure out Op was right. Here's something: there are girls out there who'd listen to you the first time, without having their life fall apart to think "Maybe my boyfriend had a point". Go date them instead.
I believe there are enablers involved in this situation. You need a forensic accountant. He's been RIPPING YOU OFF. Sell the business & blow all your money & future Inheritances. You owe your other kids so much!!!
Now it's your turn to ignore them like they ignored you. Get TF out of that house, asap. After school job right away. Start saving & hiding your money. Find your papers & documents. Avoid babysitting. Use intentional incompetence.
If she's barely making any money, the order amount would be negligible. The parent with majority custody always spends more than the parent paying child support.
@@shezza66the custody is already 50/50 so there is no child support. I also bet that if OPs dad has full custody of OP and sister, he would not request ex to pay child support.
The last story - the mother is absolutely horrible! Imagine shaming your kids because they are hungry! Imagine trying to force those same kids to steal from the dad to bring the food home for your other kids! If you can't afford kids, then don't have them! CPS needs to be involved!
@@lorilancaster5917 don't be silly, she'll be hiding Nat within the week, in that new appartment that OP was dumb enough to pay for. OP is a moron and should let the oxygen thief that is Kelly drown in her own tears.
Probably won't matter if the parents can show CPS that they are feeding the children a meal in the evening and before school (and lunch on the weekends) snacks are not a requirement.
Story 2: NTA, so sorry you got saddled with such AH parents. Oh and don't worry, once this new child isn't the cute accessory your mom and dad want, they are going to ignore it just the same as you. Just be sure not to let your parents parentify you, and when you see them neglecting your siblings, do what everyone should have done for you and call CPS..
And at this point, I’m wondering if the extended family wrote off OPs parents for having a child young or they’re pissed off at their negligence and they hid from the extended family so no one can call them out?
If I were OP I'd try to contact grandparents and let them know the scene. They might say "too bad", or they might either let you move in or otherwise provide some support till OPs 18. Why in the hell would these two idiots spend money on IVF?? I'm sure the clinics don't care (more $$ for them) but they've already got 2 kids.
Kelly deserved Nat, OP needs to block the mutual "friends" and live his best life. Edit: wait, no, OP is a doormat and is happy to enable parasites. 🙄 Nvr mind
Story 5: NTA, but does the judge know about this behavior? Seriously? sounds like the only reason your mom and stepdad are fighting to keep you for the child-support payments. Your father only has a responsibility to you, not your mother's other children. You (and your father) are 100% in the right... Your mother, step-father, and the judge are the only AHs in this story.
The judge knows that OPs mom has difficulty affording food but they, the judge, doesn’t care. I also don’t see the judge caring that the mom and stepdad and pushing OP and his sister to steal from their dad.
Story 1: YTA.. to yourself.. And a really stupid business owner for bringing this leech into your business at all.... From your description he has embezzled literally millions from you. You don't just need to kick him out, you need to hire a forensic accountant, and file charges against him and his wife.
And anyone else nepo hired. OP was an AH for treating his business as a charity for his son and DILs family and friends. OP was also an AH for prioritizing his son to where the rest of the family made themselves scarce during family events.
@@lorilancaster5917 What is your definition of 'nepo hired' because while it it true in this case, not every person hired, while they are family, falls into this category by default
@@robertx8020Highly likely, and given the way the business is being run, highly likely that even if they started off good, they now only exist to pick up paychecks.
@@robertx8020Yeah, it’s not wrong to want to pass your business to your children. If I had a business and dedicated child, I’d give them a lot of opportunities to know the company, the employees, to teach respect and skills to keep things running smooth. It’s not wrong to give your children a better, easier life. It’s wrong to give them everything in a silver platter and then expect them to grow for themselves.
@@Victoria-jr9qw I fully agree with you But some ppl wouid not agree and would call anything 'neppotisme' If the leader is competent then I don't care if he is the 'child of the owner'
"What parent put their pride above their children's comfort?" - Oh sweet summer child. It shouldn't be that way, but a lot of parents do. Some do realize what they have done wrong, some don't want to see it even after their adult children talk to them about it.
Approx 11:40 So, the mutual friends heard about OP & Kellys' conversation, just a few minutes after it happened & chastised OP for not taking Kelly back, again. So.......who told the friends about the outcome of that conversation????
A Few Minutes After We Parted- So she's already spreading it around and you didn't take that as an immediate sign?? 🙃 OP can I borrow 10 grand? Gullible people don't learn and giving me 10k will help you understand 👌🏿 better
@@heathermcdougall8023 I don't disagree. Not sure what the timelines or cost of going back to court would be. It might be a futile effort. For sure the mom is awful and in an ideal world her bad behavior would be rebuked by the courts.
The the reactions of the so-called mutual friends shows that there is nothing a woman in a relationship can due to a man that the friends will not blame the man for.NTA! But man, he’s still paying her rent. What an idiot.!
S1 Boi, the audacity of that son and dil. That nonsense is bad enough coming from a parent when you're grown, but from a grown child? Oh heeeelllll no.
The son & DIL are upset because they think OP is spending THEIR inheritance. OP should update his will ASAP because greedy son/DIL are already spending HIS money in their heads
OP already let this steamroll out of control. He'll have to bring in some lawyers or other "takeover" professionals to wedge sonny-boy out of the business. He'd probably bankrupt the business within 3 years since he sees it as his own personal piggy bank. And ffs redo his will and leave sonny $5.
Last Story : reason why mum won’t let kids be with dad is because of Child Support. If both of them move in with dad he won’t have to pay her child support anymore.
Or even worse she'd be obliged to pay him! If he's paying child support it's clear to me she and her husband are using it to supplement the family budget meaning that basically the father is buying food for his children's step siblings and half siblings.
He’s one of these ridiculous humans whose head is up his proverbial ass. He’s also foolish and naive. What a terrible combination. He has 1 child that hasn’t been employed in 15 years, drives impaired, causes family drama etc. etc. and this idiot thinks that life long loser kid is a good choice to hand his business over to. When it all goes south, he’s online asking internet strangers what he should do. Yikes!
Last story - what's the betting that mother keeps it 50/50 so that she doesn't have to pay child support? I would bet that if the father asked for full custody and legally renounced any claim to it those girls would be out of there before another day had passed. Imagine the audacity of saying to bring home food. I'm only surprised she didn't tell them they weren't getting dinner because they'd "already eaten" but I don't want to put any ideas into her head!
I had my first son at 19, and I've tried to be the best mom I could.. We're very close now and see each other weekly,talk everyday.. I have two younger kids, that are the bestest friends,and it's awesome to look at! My son was alone for 7yrs, because I couldn't get pregnant easily . Now we're a happy family, me&kids&my husband. The worse part I've heard is, are all the kids your husband's? Well yes they are,if we've been together for 24yrs, and our oldest is 21.. do the math people.. 😂 well, soon all of our kids are moving out, the frist one did a few weeks ago,and it feels a bit empty even . I miss my oldest son! But know he needs to grow up and be an adult...
@@335chr Like I said mate any money forced by a father to pay is less "sponsored money" government has to give hence the push to get dads to pay at any cost even if the kids are not theirs
There are some very stupid people who think that any child connected to their child through marriage should be automatically embraced and treated the exact same by their ex-spouse/in-laws. Don’t get me wrong, every child deserves kindness, but no way in Hell would I go out of my way to treat my ex’s child the same as my own (hypothetical, I am childless). This is what happens when people live beyond their means, blended families made up of more children than they could afford solo and it’s pathetic 😒😒😒
Story 3: Maaaan Op is such a doormat… why in gods name is he helping this toxic woman… Like, despite alll the other crap she did, she also KNEW Op didn’t like her…yet invited her to Op’s bday… Naw screw her and Op is WAYYYY wrong for helping her.
Story 4: NTA, statically girls do better in single gender schools, whereas boys do better in coed schools, so realistically speaking she’s probably going to receive a better education where she is than where her brother is, besides she made her choice, and I feel like she’d change her mind quickly being the poor girl surrounded by rich girls, I knew a girl who went to a private school for rich kids paid for by the military through her stepdad, she had basically no friends because the other girls simply couldn’t relate to her and she was ostracised and mildly bullied for it
So everyone commenting on story 4 can't tell the difference between better and recognizable? The son is going to that school because his preferred universities pay attention to that type of education. The daughter wants to go just because. This sound like a valid reason to me. The comment about her morals was weird though.
Yeah that was do strangelike just because foreign countries recognize this curriculum doesn't mean it's better. Just different. As in it might include different classes that he would need to pass to get into those universities.
S4: So wait - OP is worried about his daughter "losing her morals" if she were to attend this "elite" school, but not worried about his son losing his?
last one, mother cannot even think logically that if they eat at their dads, her other kids can have more food from her and her husband who is responsible for his own kids, instead she wants to cause trouble
Nat & Kelly story reminds me of Luke 15:11-32, the Parable of the Lost Son, one of the few stories I remember from the Bible. People are allowed to be given a second chance when they make dumb life mistakes which they are truly remorseful for. That said, OP is also allowed to ignore that and mov3 on with his life.
That part wasn’t missed. What makes OP the AH is that she’s asked to go to the school and his excuses are nonsense. He doesn’t want his daughter to go to a coed school full of children of diplomats yet has no problem sending the son? He also wants his son to look good to international universities but not his daughter?
@@jacearmor5274Except she now actually got ahold of the course material, found it far more interesting, and wants to go now *because of that.* This isn’t petty ‘oh your school has better cafeteria food’ jealousy, this is her realizing she can get a BETTER EDUCATION at that school than her current. And what’s OP’s excuse? “WuLL, iTs NoT aCtUaLLy BeTTeR iTs JuSt My SoN’s GoNnA gO fUrThEr In LiFe BeCaUsE oF iT!” that’s misogyny.
Last story: NTA and OP should talk to a counselor or someone at school and ask for the food situation to be reported to CPS. Report that the younger kids are being deprived of school and that the mom and stepdad are not only encouraging OP and his sister to steal food from their dad, but berating them for NOT stealing food. I feel sorry for the stepsiblings who are going hungry but it is NOT OP's responsibility to feed them.
1: NTA, the last comment was reaching. 2: NTA 3: NTA, perhaps one of the mutual friends should date Kelly 4: overall, NTA. I love how the commenters are saying op is sexist because he listened to his daughter in the first place instead of ignoring what she wanted initially. Also they ignored a lot of the stuff op said, impressive really. 5: NTA
15 years not finding a job, BUUULLLSSHHIIDDDD but you can find a job easily if you arent picky or lazy, he is just lazy and not really looking, seriously then giving him the buisness, thats like giving a failure a futher chance to fail. ADHD is NO excuse I have it bad and held down several successful jobs before a accident left me with chronic long term agonising pain.
Your daughter didn't want to change schools. Now she does. Change her school. Good chance she will regret it if making friends was her inotial issue. I changed schools because I wanted a better school. I got the education I wanted BUT I changed as a person massively, I knew no one in an extremely large school and became withdrawn and reserved when I was extremely extroverted and social beforehand. If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't have changed schools. I don't regret it, I just would've chosen differently with more information available to me. She may be the complete opposite and thrive unfortunately some lessons (positive or negative) you have to learn the hard way.
@@lorilancaster5917do right by her how? Originally she had no interest.. Cause she opened a science book, a year book. Girl bye. This has more to do with who attends the school than the actual school. Schools like that are also super cliquish. More so for girls than guys She already said she wouldn't fit in, so why go through that? I would send her and make her stay bc after 3 months she will be begging to transfer.
Tell me you don't know what entitled means by its literal ddeefinition without telling me. How is OP entitled for not taking back Nat who RUINED his birthday by inviting the ONE person he explicitely told her NOT to invite? 3 dumbasses dropped. GOOD for you OP
hmmmm.... I think OP may be the ah for the golden child syndrome .. why would he put up with his daughter not coming over for two years, in favor of this pos... and finally when it affects him now he wants to go nuclear... it's pathetic. Maybe some karma
Story 2: OP get out of that house soon; ill bet fertility treatments dont take, and they are going ti try to make their perfect fsmily by lovebombing you
@@lorilancaster5917 that's what makes me think, if fertility treatment doesn't work, they are going to swing back to OP and try to force love and pretend their entire life didn't happen "we did so much for you, the least you can do is give us the chance to show you we have changed"
Nat story: YTA, op doesn't realize that his ex was in an abusive relationship with Nat! If Nat were a man and in a relationship with op's ex EVERYONE would run to ex's defense!! It wouldn't kill op to at least lend her some money and help his ex get back on her feet!! However, cutting off Nat should be a condition to op helping out, but still if the ex were running from an abusive ex-husband people would be dogpiling on op for not helping her out!!
Nat is abusive, that's true but the ex chose her over op until it started to cost her, that's on her, op doesn't owe her any help to get out of this situation. It wouldn't kill op to give money but why should he lose money that he worked for, for a situation his ex chose
So op took pictures of the engagement ring he would have proposed to kelly and kept her presents... What a narcissist...he felt good seeing her suffering... Yeah she shouldn't have picked her toxic friend but a tad seems to be experienced
He kept presents he got from her, and gave her presents he gave her over the years. That's how it works. If you give someone a present you transfer ownership.
And the engagement ring was to show what she missed out because she sided with her toxic friend, even though she slandered him. It was to show she definitely made the wrong choice.
S4. NTA. I like how people like to add crap in to stories. The girl said that she didn't want to go to that school. Then she changes her mind. So what happens if she goes to that school and changes her mind again.
Son running dad's business story: Your son is stealing from the company. Have an audit of the company books. He is stealing big time.
Glad I am not the only one who had this thought.
Story 1- The son & DIL are upset because they think OP is spending THEIR inheritance. OP should update his will ASAP because greedy son/DIL are already spending HIS money in their heads
And I think he should go through the professional means to fire his son. I don’t think there would be a problem since it sounds like OP has proof that he doesn’t work.
Story #3: Tell your friends to take Kelly in! After reading the update, you were crazy to help her. Where is her family and friends?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nat was her only friend after driving the rest of Kelly’s friends away. While I’m glad OP booted the friends calling him an AH after the update, I think he should’ve done that sooner. That way he wouldn’t have this guilt and feel like he should provide Kelly with six months of free rent.
At this point it's not even simp it's just pathetic loser
Kelly chose her toxic friend over OP, but he's meant to take her back because she's now learned that what a bad choice?
Boohoo. If she was living off OP for the time they were together, he was the only reason she stayed afloat in the first place.....The update is ridiculous. DON'T PAY HER RENT FFS.
The father from the last story needs to report the judge. Children at that age have a right to choose which parent to stay with.
Especially considering the food limitations at the moms. If you can’t afford to adequately feed the kids you have, don’t have more kids.
depends on the state
It depends on where it is, local laws and expectations, etc.
Thy have the right (in some places) to have input BUT that just means an interview in chambers, the reasons matter more than the opinion to be frank. A teen might say they want dad because he lets them do more of what they want but the judge may see the school records that show they don’t have good grades or attendance while with dad and rule for mom despite kid saying dad etc.
Not in every state and if the kids are getting dinner just not what they want it's not neglect they are being feed 3 meals a day at mom and step dads. Have you even thought about what would happen if ops dad got full custody the mon would be on child support making that situation in her home worse. Even though op is not the asshole calling CPS in this situation is like using a nuke to kill a fire ant nest
Leave Kelly to the streets. She broke up with you and only came crawling back when everything went to crap. Op told her about the problem, Op told her about how he feels, Op even gave her an ultimatum. She still didn't care and accused Op of being controlling and abusive. It took losing everything to figure out Op was right.
Here's something: there are girls out there who'd listen to you the first time, without having their life fall apart to think "Maybe my boyfriend had a point". Go date them instead.
I believe there are enablers involved in this situation. You need a forensic accountant. He's been RIPPING YOU OFF. Sell the business & blow all your money & future Inheritances. You owe your other kids so much!!!
Now it's your turn to ignore them like they ignored you. Get TF out of that house, asap. After school job right away. Start saving & hiding your money. Find your papers & documents. Avoid babysitting. Use intentional incompetence.
You have EVERY RIGHT to take your father's invitation. If you eat at Dads they will have more food at home
Last Story: I would have asked her why do they keep having kids if they can't feed them?
Give up custody, and there will be more food for the other kids. The mother and her husband are ridiculously entitled.
She won’t as she won’t receive child support and will now have to pay it
If she's barely making any money, the order amount would be negligible. The parent with majority custody always spends more than the parent paying child support.
@@EnDB Yeah but she is probably spending the OPs and sisters money on the other kids not the kids the money is intended for
@@shezza66the custody is already 50/50 so there is no child support. I also bet that if OPs dad has full custody of OP and sister, he would not request ex to pay child support.
Her situation is no longer your responsibility, she is your ex.
The last story - the mother is absolutely horrible! Imagine shaming your kids because they are hungry! Imagine trying to force those same kids to steal from the dad to bring the food home for your other kids! If you can't afford kids, then don't have them! CPS needs to be involved!
Story 3: NTA, you broke up with her you do not owe her anything.....
And now she likely has it in the back of her head that if she avoids Nat for six months, OP will take her back even though he told her it won’t happen
He gave her an ultimatum and she chose her "friend" over him. She broke up with him not the other way around so she can't even claim it was his fault.
@@lorilancaster5917 don't be silly, she'll be hiding Nat within the week, in that new appartment that OP was dumb enough to pay for. OP is a moron and should let the oxygen thief that is Kelly drown in her own tears.
The last story makes me feel ill. Time for the OP to take records of their lack of food and turn it over to CPS.
Probably won't matter if the parents can show CPS that they are feeding the children a meal in the evening and before school (and lunch on the weekends) snacks are not a requirement.
Story 2: NTA, so sorry you got saddled with such AH parents. Oh and don't worry, once this new child isn't the cute accessory your mom and dad want, they are going to ignore it just the same as you. Just be sure not to let your parents parentify you, and when you see them neglecting your siblings, do what everyone should have done for you and call CPS..
And at this point, I’m wondering if the extended family wrote off OPs parents for having a child young or they’re pissed off at their negligence and they hid from the extended family so no one can call them out?
If I were OP I'd try to contact grandparents and let them know the scene. They might say "too bad", or they might either let you move in or otherwise provide some support till OPs 18. Why in the hell would these two idiots spend money on IVF?? I'm sure the clinics don't care (more $$ for them) but they've already got 2 kids.
Kelly deserved Nat, OP needs to block the mutual "friends" and live his best life.
Edit: wait, no, OP is a doormat and is happy to enable parasites. 🙄 Nvr mind
Yup, I'm betting Kelly will be hiding Nat in that new appartment with her within the week.
Story 5: NTA, but does the judge know about this behavior? Seriously? sounds like the only reason your mom and stepdad are fighting to keep you for the child-support payments.
Your father only has a responsibility to you, not your mother's other children. You (and your father) are 100% in the right... Your mother, step-father, and the judge are the only AHs in this story.
The judge knows that OPs mom has difficulty affording food but they, the judge, doesn’t care. I also don’t see the judge caring that the mom and stepdad and pushing OP and his sister to steal from their dad.
Story 1: YTA.. to yourself.. And a really stupid business owner for bringing this leech into your business at all.... From your description he has embezzled literally millions from you. You don't just need to kick him out, you need to hire a forensic accountant, and file charges against him and his wife.
And anyone else nepo hired. OP was an AH for treating his business as a charity for his son and DILs family and friends. OP was also an AH for prioritizing his son to where the rest of the family made themselves scarce during family events.
@@lorilancaster5917 What is your definition of 'nepo hired' because while it it true in this case, not every person hired, while they are family, falls into this category by default
@@robertx8020Highly likely, and given the way the business is being run, highly likely that even if they started off good, they now only exist to pick up paychecks.
@@robertx8020Yeah, it’s not wrong to want to pass your business to your children. If I had a business and dedicated child, I’d give them a lot of opportunities to know the company, the employees, to teach respect and skills to keep things running smooth. It’s not wrong to give your children a better, easier life. It’s wrong to give them everything in a silver platter and then expect them to grow for themselves.
@@Victoria-jr9qw I fully agree with you
But some ppl wouid not agree and would call anything 'neppotisme'
If the leader is competent then I don't care if he is the 'child of the owner'
"What parent put their pride above their children's comfort?" - Oh sweet summer child. It shouldn't be that way, but a lot of parents do. Some do realize what they have done wrong, some don't want to see it even after their adult children talk to them about it.
Approx 11:40
So, the mutual friends heard about OP & Kellys' conversation, just a few minutes after it happened & chastised OP for not taking Kelly back, again.
So.......who told the friends about the outcome of that conversation????
A Few Minutes After We Parted- So she's already spreading it around and you didn't take that as an immediate sign?? 🙃 OP can I borrow 10 grand? Gullible people don't learn and giving me 10k will help you understand 👌🏿 better
Nta. Demand dad gets a different judge. That judge is screwed up. They usually do takenin account kids opinions after age 12 or 13
Depends on the state and what limitations are spelled out. However, if the judge *does* have leeway and simply isn't applying it, then he's an AH.
@@user-wr3vt8uq4s Dad needs to get the judge to hear how the mother and stepfather are putting pressure on them to steal food for thier other kids.
@@heathermcdougall8023 I don't disagree. Not sure what the timelines or cost of going back to court would be. It might be a futile effort. For sure the mom is awful and in an ideal world her bad behavior would be rebuked by the courts.
Story 2: NTA. You owe them nothing after their years of abuse and neglect.
S1. Looks like you have created a monster.
Story 5: OP and dad need to harass the hell out of the system over this.
The the reactions of the so-called mutual friends shows that there is nothing a woman in a relationship can due to a man that the friends will not blame the man for.NTA! But man, he’s still paying her rent. What an idiot.!
What a vile parent. Your son wont lose morals but she will. Yikes!!!
S1 Boi, the audacity of that son and dil. That nonsense is bad enough coming from a parent when you're grown, but from a grown child? Oh heeeelllll no.
The son & DIL are upset because they think OP is spending THEIR inheritance. OP should update his will ASAP because greedy son/DIL are already spending HIS money in their heads
OP already let this steamroll out of control. He'll have to bring in some lawyers or other "takeover" professionals to wedge sonny-boy out of the business. He'd probably bankrupt the business within 3 years since he sees it as his own personal piggy bank. And ffs redo his will and leave sonny $5.
Story 4: I don't even understand most of this. Some of these commebters are dumb AF though.
No one is owed anything positive for neglect. OP's parents are trash.
Exactly and I do hope OP contacts a school counselor and or CPS because things are going to get worse before they get better.
Last Story : reason why mum won’t let kids be with dad is because of Child Support. If both of them move in with dad he won’t have to pay her child support anymore.
Or even worse she'd be obliged to pay him! If he's paying child support it's clear to me she and her husband are using it to supplement the family budget meaning that basically the father is buying food for his children's step siblings and half siblings.
Story #1: Man!! You just gave your son a blank check!! You are a idiot!!
He’s one of these ridiculous humans whose head is up his proverbial ass. He’s also foolish and naive. What a terrible combination. He has 1 child that hasn’t been employed in 15 years, drives impaired, causes family drama etc. etc. and this idiot thinks that life long loser kid is a good choice to hand his business over to. When it all goes south, he’s online asking internet strangers what he should do. Yikes!
Agree Op is the root of this mess
Last story - what's the betting that mother keeps it 50/50 so that she doesn't have to pay child support? I would bet that if the father asked for full custody and legally renounced any claim to it those girls would be out of there before another day had passed. Imagine the audacity of saying to bring home food. I'm only surprised she didn't tell them they weren't getting dinner because they'd "already eaten" but I don't want to put any ideas into her head!
I had my first son at 19, and I've tried to be the best mom I could.. We're very close now and see each other weekly,talk everyday.. I have two younger kids, that are the bestest friends,and it's awesome to look at! My son was alone for 7yrs, because I couldn't get pregnant easily . Now we're a happy family, me&kids&my husband. The worse part I've heard is, are all the kids your husband's? Well yes they are,if we've been together for 24yrs, and our oldest is 21.. do the math people.. 😂 well, soon all of our kids are moving out, the frist one did a few weeks ago,and it feels a bit empty even . I miss my oldest son! But know he needs to grow up and be an adult...
Last story why would Op's dad pay for kids that are not his
Because otherwise the child support comes from a government / state sponsored fund, hence courts will always try to make fathers pay for it
@@bamban_garcia5562 this isn't about child support this is about Ops mom wanting their dad to buy food for the other kids
@@335chr Like I said mate any money forced by a father to pay is less "sponsored money" government has to give hence the push to get dads to pay at any cost even if the kids are not theirs
@@bamban_garcia5562there is no push from the courts in this situation for dad to feed kids that aren’t his, only his deadbeat ex and her baby daddy.
There are some very stupid people who think that any child connected to their child through marriage should be automatically embraced and treated the exact same by their ex-spouse/in-laws. Don’t get me wrong, every child deserves kindness, but no way in Hell would I go out of my way to treat my ex’s child the same as my own (hypothetical, I am childless). This is what happens when people live beyond their means, blended families made up of more children than they could afford solo and it’s pathetic 😒😒😒
Nta . Sounds like you saved your 50yr business
Story 3: Maaaan Op is such a doormat… why in gods name is he helping this toxic woman…
Like, despite alll the other crap she did, she also KNEW Op didn’t like her…yet invited her to Op’s bday…
Naw screw her and Op is WAYYYY wrong for helping her.
A mom is a bad parent
Courts nope she's good because she woman
Story 4: NTA, statically girls do better in single gender schools, whereas boys do better in coed schools, so realistically speaking she’s probably going to receive a better education where she is than where her brother is, besides she made her choice, and I feel like she’d change her mind quickly being the poor girl surrounded by rich girls, I knew a girl who went to a private school for rich kids paid for by the military through her stepdad, she had basically no friends because the other girls simply couldn’t relate to her and she was ostracised and mildly bullied for it
Last story: NTA. If he's that angry, he can direct it squarely at himself and fix his situation.
3 minutes! That's a new record for me!
So everyone commenting on story 4 can't tell the difference between better and recognizable? The son is going to that school because his preferred universities pay attention to that type of education. The daughter wants to go just because. This sound like a valid reason to me. The comment about her morals was weird though.
Well, the son won't come home pregnant-- I'm guessing that's mom's opinion. Not that that's a good enough excuse.
Yeah that was do strangelike just because foreign countries recognize this curriculum doesn't mean it's better. Just different. As in it might include different classes that he would need to pass to get into those universities.
S4: So wait - OP is worried about his daughter "losing her morals" if she were to attend this "elite" school, but not worried about his son losing his?
last one, mother cannot even think logically that if they eat at their dads, her other kids can have more food from her and her husband who is responsible for his own kids, instead she wants to cause trouble
Nat story. Oh no the consequences NTA
Nat & Kelly story reminds me of Luke 15:11-32, the Parable of the Lost Son, one of the few stories I remember from the Bible.
People are allowed to be given a second chance when they make dumb life mistakes which they are truly remorseful for. That said, OP is also allowed to ignore that and mov3 on with his life.
The guy in the engagement story….what a doormat
S4: NTA. The comments seem to have forgotten the part where OP's daughter chose not to go to OP's son's school
That part wasn’t missed. What makes OP the AH is that she’s asked to go to the school and his excuses are nonsense. He doesn’t want his daughter to go to a coed school full of children of diplomats yet has no problem sending the son? He also wants his son to look good to international universities but not his daughter?
@@lorilancaster5917 He sent his son and was going to send his daughter if she wanted to go. She said no.
@@jacearmor5274 but she is now saying yes and OP hasn’t used the it’s too late excuse.
@@jacearmor5274Except she now actually got ahold of the course material, found it far more interesting, and wants to go now *because of that.*
This isn’t petty ‘oh your school has better cafeteria food’ jealousy, this is her realizing she can get a BETTER EDUCATION at that school than her current.
And what’s OP’s excuse? “WuLL, iTs NoT aCtUaLLy BeTTeR iTs JuSt My SoN’s GoNnA gO fUrThEr In LiFe BeCaUsE oF iT!” that’s misogyny.
Kids grow and mature. Seems she is now thinking more about her future and studies which shows maturity.
Last story: NTA and OP should talk to a counselor or someone at school and ask for the food situation to be reported to CPS. Report that the younger kids are being deprived of school and that the mom and stepdad are not only encouraging OP and his sister to steal food from their dad, but berating them for NOT stealing food. I feel sorry for the stepsiblings who are going hungry but it is NOT OP's responsibility to feed them.
Nta. Nat has a crush on you. Nat should never have been at your birthday. Dump Kelly.
You send a stem kid to a stem school, u send a worldly student to a worldly school, you send a religious student to a religious school.
You are a fool for supporting kelly one tiny iota.
1: NTA, the last comment was reaching.
2: NTA
3: NTA, perhaps one of the mutual friends should date Kelly
4: overall, NTA. I love how the commenters are saying op is sexist because he listened to his daughter in the first place instead of ignoring what she wanted initially. Also they ignored a lot of the stuff op said, impressive really.
5: NTA
15 years not finding a job, BUUULLLSSHHIIDDDD but you can find a job easily if you arent picky or lazy, he is just lazy and not really looking, seriously then giving him the buisness, thats like giving a failure a futher chance to fail. ADHD is NO excuse I have it bad and held down several successful jobs before a accident left me with chronic long term agonising pain.
Op should charge Kelly with everything op paid for the whole relationship
Your daughter didn't want to change schools. Now she does. Change her school. Good chance she will regret it if making friends was her inotial issue. I changed schools because I wanted a better school. I got the education I wanted BUT I changed as a person massively, I knew no one in an extremely large school and became withdrawn and reserved when I was extremely extroverted and social beforehand. If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't have changed schools. I don't regret it, I just would've chosen differently with more information available to me. She may be the complete opposite and thrive unfortunately some lessons (positive or negative) you have to learn the hard way.
And OP said that he can afford to send her and his excuses are total bs. I hope he gets his head out of his bum and does right by her.
@@lorilancaster5917do right by her how? Originally she had no interest.. Cause she opened a science book, a year book. Girl bye. This has more to do with who attends the school than the actual school. Schools like that are also super cliquish. More so for girls than guys
She already said she wouldn't fit in, so why go through that? I would send her and make her stay bc after 3 months she will be begging to transfer.
@@reneeboone9730 do right by her by enrolling her in the same school as son and let her have the same opportunities
Let Kelly friends take her in. You dogged a giant red flag.
Story 1: NTA, but op should’ve BEEN cut the cord years ago
Story 1 Op isn’t complaining about his son spending his money Op is complaining about Op son spending Op money
Edit Op created a monster
Tell me you don't know what entitled means by its literal ddeefinition without telling me.
How is OP entitled for not taking back Nat who RUINED his birthday by inviting the ONE person he explicitely told her NOT to invite?
3 dumbasses dropped. GOOD for you OP
Story 1: NTA and the other kids are just pathetic
Nta. Fire him. He only got the job bc of nepotism. H3 is ungrateful
1s str: projecting
hmmmm.... I think OP may be the ah for the golden child syndrome .. why would he put up with his daughter not coming over for two years, in favor of this pos... and finally when it affects him now he wants to go nuclear... it's pathetic. Maybe some karma
Story 2: OP get out of that house soon; ill bet fertility treatments dont take, and they are going ti try to make their perfect fsmily by lovebombing you
Or blame the stress of trying to conceive on OP since she won’t play ball
@@lorilancaster5917 either way OP needs to get out soon; in either scenario OP is a prop their parents will use
@@jsanto210 especially since they are holding their bare minimum legal requirements as parents over her head.
@@lorilancaster5917 that's what makes me think, if fertility treatment doesn't work, they are going to swing back to OP and try to force love and pretend their entire life didn't happen "we did so much for you, the least you can do is give us the chance to show you we have changed"
12:58 what an idiot.
Story #4: YTA!! Tell us your son is the golden child without telling us your son is the golden child.
Nat story: YTA, op doesn't realize that his ex was in an abusive relationship with Nat! If Nat were a man and in a relationship with op's ex EVERYONE would run to ex's defense!! It wouldn't kill op to at least lend her some money and help his ex get back on her feet!! However, cutting off Nat should be a condition to op helping out, but still if the ex were running from an abusive ex-husband people would be dogpiling on op for not helping her out!!
Nat is abusive, that's true but the ex chose her over op until it started to cost her, that's on her, op doesn't owe her any help to get out of this situation. It wouldn't kill op to give money but why should he lose money that he worked for, for a situation his ex chose
So op took pictures of the engagement ring he would have proposed to kelly and kept her presents... What a narcissist...he felt good seeing her suffering...
Yeah she shouldn't have picked her toxic friend but a tad seems to be experienced
He kept presents he got from her, and gave her presents he gave her over the years. That's how it works. If you give someone a present you transfer ownership.
And the engagement ring was to show what she missed out because she sided with her toxic friend, even though she slandered him. It was to show she definitely made the wrong choice.
S4. NTA. I like how people like to add crap in to stories. The girl said that she didn't want to go to that school. Then she changes her mind. So what happens if she goes to that school and changes her mind again.