MSE Split My Suture in 3 Days!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Had MSE installed 10 days ago along with a corticotomy to weaken the suture, all performed by Dr. Newaz. After taking 4 days off to recover from the install, I turned 6-7 times per day for 3 days and my suture split at around turn 21.
This is a big win. I’m pumped. Huge improvement in nasal breathing and sense of oral volume already.
In the video I said MSE is screwed into mid palatal suture. I mean to say it is screwed into the maxilla on either side of the suture.
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I believe my palate is splitting at this very moment, and MAN is it intense. Just waiting for the bliss to hit, but man, this last half hour has been insane.
Naturally or with mse. And how much was yours?
How is it going now?
I’m literally crying I can’t afford mse I’ve had 8 teeth extracted I have sleep apnea and tmj and reccesed upper and lowe jaw. I would kill 100 people to be this dude
Have you tried using Carecredit?
those pilot holes in the palate sound like they'd likely make mse 100% or close to it effective at splitting the suture.
I really think you went overboard with the expansion, in this video your maxilla already looked fine, why keep expanding until your upper and lower teeth doesn't fit together
This is impressive. Good job. Personally I’ll stick to my thumb pulling and mewing method but Jesus if that’s not good result
Also I’m really excited to see this. The fact you got it to spilt open in only 3 days really tells me that it’s even more possible to get changes as an adult.
Does this have risks as breaking your maxilla ?
Hey AS thanks for popping in. Yeah, crazy results.
I couldn't believe how much force it took to actually split the suture, even after the corticotomy, so I don't think I would have ever been able to achieve that kind of opening without the appliance...
although some people say they do, and I believe them. Perhaps they are more dedicated with their Mewing than I am.
As for risks...IMO it is always risky to put your body through the kind of stress posed by MSE. That first week was really tough. Like, I kind of understated how tough it was. I took great measures to manage the stress of it all...I'll do a separate video on that at some point.
Barring a full-body freakout (which DID happen with me in the first several days after install and aggressive turning), I can't think of any side effects.
Hope you stop by my vids more often. ✌🏼
Have you accomplished better symmetry and forward growth by doing thumb pulling?
what the fuck is thumb pulling?
Yeah what’s thumb pulling!
@@cvspvr its the forbidden method my guy. works better than mewing. when you find out dont share the knowledge.
That mid-palatal suture split is simply ecstatic. I managed to split it with just hard mewing (assumption - but I experienced the same things you did), I'll be making a video in a couple weeks.
Hahah I love you loosening up and swearing a little LOL
Oh that would be interesting to hear about, Raymond. That would be cool if I could split my suture through mewing!
What’s your age? I’m 21 and hoping that this is still possible
@@LayMeInTheRiver 23
@Raymond Johnson, I split my midpalatal suture as well via mewing with added force. I developed a tiny gap and this gap was quite fluid. It could sometimes be almost closed in the morning (after obviously not being able to put any pressure against the roof of the mouth during night). The midpalatal suture seemed to be active for about 6-8 months, after which it went back to being almost closed permanently even though I kept doing the same thing. During this 6-8 month period I saw significant widening of my upper palate, but also some minor forwards expansion. The gap never got larger than about 2 mm, but overall I believe I expanded the width of my upper arch with at least about 5-7 mm.
After this I saw continued change, but not really any more widening. in total I noticed changes for about 1,5 years. I started about 2 years ago at the age of 30. Among other things my breathing and my sleep have improved significantly. I now sleep with a closed mouth breathing through my nose without any issues at all.
Your maxilla width is expanding but what about the mandible? Don't you might again create unwanted disproportions between the two?
Dude420 the mandible and maxilla follow each other. If he takes his time with the expansion the mandible will follow and adjust according
@@astroskyofficial Nah fam
@@astroskyofficial They follow each other forward (anteriorly) but do they follow each other laterally?
@@saurianscapes2805 Leaving answer in hopes of answer
Excellent observation Dude420. You are correct in where there is a possibility that a disproportion can be created if the orthodontist is not carefully observing the case with the patient to avoid this unwanted effect.
Usually, if your teeth situated on the mandibular arch are pointing lingually (inwards) then they can use braces to upright them to match the new maxillary arch formation created by MSE.
honestly something about your face looks unbalanced. like your dental arches are expanding but the rest of the face isnt following in same proportion
Asura when it comes to mewing, some ppl tend to forget to naturally use the upper lip muscle & cheek bone area & they only focus on their jaw so in his case it makes his face longer & in mike mew’s theory a shorter face is attractive
aj aj, can you expand on what you mean?
xxpowwowbluexx look up mike mew importance of the lip fold muscle
xxpowwowbluexx ruclips.net/video/V03Oabno1a8/видео.html
actually this one is what i mean
xxpowwowbluexx what’s more attractive a square face or a rectangle face?
Thank you very much for sharing your journey!
Where can i get these appliances, I live in the UK, 18, Please reply
i need to know for Germany 😭
hw ds same but I can’t find anything here
Dgdgrg Kzkzk tell me once u find one🥺 i've heard there is one in munich and i have seen a website of another one in Mannheim but idk😭
Ask for MARPE. MSE is just a type of MARPE. ask for a 4 screw MARPE.
Dr Moschik In München Deutschland
Congrats bro, excited to see what’s to come!
6 times a day turning sounds a bit too much, I wouldn't try that....
Thank you for sharing the first hand experience of pressure build up and release. At 50 years I've tried ALF, but that only moved teeth, fixing the foundation via MSA = proper fix.
I would share the video with more people if cursing were edited out.
I wanted to do this treatment but now it sounds too scary. Screws in your palate, splitting bones :s
it's a split or cope world boyo
İt's over for cowardcels
@@ocoro174 love that way of putting it
@@ocoro174 true
I thought John Mew said to turn at a semi-rapid rate of 1mm a day. Are you turning yours more because you’re an adult?
bella.m31, not per day. PER WEEK! I’m pretty sure that’s what he said.
Great Videos, I have severe sleep apnea, had tonsils & uvala removed last month, this month scheduled for septoplasty & turbinate reduction, my dentist said if I lower my apneas after the septoplasty turbinate then this may be the next surgery, whats your thoughts on curing sleep apnea or atleast this being the final surgery, seems like it may be minimal expansion, hey if it gave me a more distinct & forward projecting chin i would appreciate that
Did your TADS tilt while expanding before the suture split?
Does anyone know if he expanded his maxillary enough to restore the 2 extracted premolars due to orthodontics?
can someone tell me the diffrence between MARPE and MSE?
does anybody know an orthodontist in Germany who does mse?
Dr Moschik in München
How do you even convince an orthodontist to do this and how expensive is it
Alex lol,
How do you convince an ortho to do braces, just ask them. If they offer.
@@Bhiladpy-up9uy If they offer MSE, can I be sure they will accept? I had braces, but I want to get MSE even though I have fine occlusion, mostly for cosmetic reasons and a little bit of functional (sometimes I have trouble breathing when I'm mewing). I'm 16, I'm not sure if age matters too. I'm currently trying to save up for it and I hope i can get it within the next 2 months.
@@keplar7243this is 3 years late, but did u end up getting mse? if you did, how was it?
Have you seen a cranial osteopath during your expansion process? I'm wearing the DNA appliance, which I believe places significantly less pressure on the midline maxillary suture, and when I was evaluated by an osteopath he felt I was at risk for a cranial prolapse, which is irreversible and can lead to a number of severe and permanent side effects like .. autoimmune conditions, anxiety/ depression, etc.).
Cranial prolapse? Come on. Rubbish.
@@zahnmann1 the clinician who used that term was MD, Phd trained in Europe and the US (and a trained cranial osteopath).
zara m not impressed. Cranial prolapse is basically a brain herniation. These are usually caused by a MVA, not a dental appliance.
Autoimmune diseases are a medical lie🤣 anxiety is caused by what you eat and not bone movement
That sounds amazing.
So you have a gap tooth now I’m confused, this is good? Does it go away?
You probably don't understand what is he saying,
He is expanding the palate (maxilla known as upper jaw) by using this devices,
Later Braces will fix the gaps betwen teeth
Sapphire Fan, braces will fix the gap, or the lips will naturally exert a light but constant force to slowly close that gap?
@@xxpowwowbluexx braces only
@@sapphirefan1488 isnt braces will pull the teeth tho?
@@erostube3759 doesnt matter when jaws are developed etc
Your mouth has a tongue pocket. Put it there when you're relaxing and focusing. Amen.
Yawning while curling the tongue upwards helps to alleviate muscle tension you may experience in your throat.
Hi Ronald, I've been following you for a couple of years now.. Curious, why did you have an MSE Installation now ? I know you had the AGGA Appliance then braces? Didn't that fix all your problems? Why are you still doing more palate expansion.. I want to know if the AGGA appliance works and is good enough for most people.. I might have to do it one day to expand and widen my arches.
AGGA is okay for moderate amounts of forward expansion, which does increase oral volume, helps move the mandible forward, and can eliminate TMD.
But MSE has way more balls that AGGA in terms of its ability to create bonafide skeletal expansion.
It all depends on what you are going for. Everyone has different goals. AGGA may be good enough for yours.
For detailed explanation of why I am doing MSE please visit my blog www.ronaldead.com and read all the MSE posts.
Basically: fix crossbite, increase nasal airway volume, increase oral volume.
Jaw Hacks, Ronald, what do you think about the Farrell Bent-Wire System Expander (BWS) and Myobrace System?
@@JawHacks do you have any plans to affect the zygos as well?
@@JawHacksRon, did the ahole orthodontist pull two of your premolars or all four? Wondering, since two of mine were pulled from my maxilla. I suffer everyday after they pulled my premolars and damaged my jaw. My mandible is okay. No teeth pulled from the mandible, luckily. But my maxilla needs forward expansion and sideways of course. Is jaw surgery best, what kind? Have you heard of Dr. Eric Solyom? Is he a great surgeon?
Hi. How much did this cost?
In 3days?? Mine it's 3rd day but I don't this much gape 🧐
Are u from India??
My orthodontist says me my palate is normal but i feel it very narrow. How do I proceed? i am 23 years old. Mewing Only?
I feel that they do not know the importance of a wide palate for a better aesthetic.
hum get the mse either way. Who cares if ur palate is normal? Normal is still bad, given that nowadays normal is 30 something mm
@@joaocarvalho1347 how much should it be?
@@marciavoe7150 For an ideal smile? 42 mm, but our ancestors reached the 50 mm.
@@joaocarvalho1347 So what is the plan... To reach what our ancestors had or to reach the ideal.
What’s the significance/benefit of the split? Does it make your upper jaw expand?
The two halves of the maxilla come apart so they can be moved apart from each other, then bone fills in between, widening the maxilla
JLC : Thanks friend, this guy seems to be obsessed with expansion.
@@louisronan5903 you would too if knew it could take away your insomnia, depression and anxiety due to poor air flow.
@@christianjohnson2562 How’s that?
@@FreerunnerCamilo opens up your nasal cavity allowing for much better nose breathing
How old were u in this video?? If I may ask
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@@digolaverdadmclaverdad7572 He said 29
Can i get mse at the age of 18 my teeth are too crooked to do mewing
I had bad orthodontics and after extractions I have Sever headaches near my third eye blind and facial pain :( I am going to try Alf Appliance
I heard that thumb pressing on the inner sides of the palate can temporarily open the sutures
@@BawsMode Astro Sky is a major contributing member to this community and I appreciate and respect what he does.
I actually opened my palate slightly with my thumbs, made my voice deeper and results are permanent because my eyes got an upward tilt.
@@cyberblock7619 You're joking right? Do hard mewing or try tongue chewing.
@@John-mv1sp hi John John, please come pull my mouth apart, it too small sir
@@cyberblock7619 I can't unless you live in Cali, but even then you can do that yourself. Good luck.
So if I have the spilt and spaces I’m all good??
is it possible to split the suture with fixed retainers?
@@cedrickgamboa5280 hey mate im in the same thing as you . How has been in those 2 years? Would like to hear your opinion
No
How is this over the top people get braces I don’t see the difference
I am very confused, other than expanding you pallete why would people do this if it makes your teeth ugly (Gap between front teeth)?? Someone reply please
after a certain period of time, the teeth come back together if i'm not mistaken. Either that or there are appliances that group the teeth together.
@@denwoowned2560 You have to get braces/invisalign to fix the teeth
This is some inspirational shit
I have permanent retainers can I still split my suture?
No
you wont need retainers anymore after you got more space for your teeth. expand your dental arch and they will stay straight
@@asura8495 what if you had a gap in your front teeth to begin with? I got braces before to close my diastema
@@wisesum357 if you create space between to teeth you will have a diastema. sucks, but it sucks less than having a narrow pallate imo 😁
@@asura8495 exactly
Did u do this because you don’t have wisdom teeth and the sinking back?
Does it grow back?
How does it feel ??
Mse cost
We're you pre molar extracted. Are u part of a horrible oetho treatment. Please share more videos..you are our hope thanks.
Yeah he is
I am too unfortunately
@@rowda6968 We all are:((.
Inshallah, our surgeries in the future will go well
@@spiscold50 inshallah it goes well.
are you Muslim?
@@Miss.R02 Converting soon
Are u from New York
no, Boston area.
Now all you need are cheekbone implants and hunter eyes
I like this kid
3:50
Are there any appliances I can buy online to assist in my at home mewing
ADA approved chewing gum. NM
Mse useful for adults after 22 y
yes
Is the togue tie being addressed?
kglor920 he had it cut a long time ago, if you have a tie it MUST go
@@fuzuzafitness8354 why?
How do you know you have a tongue tie?
Godsend
thank you
Yglu
Dude why do you though all this just too look better, smh
And he still looks pretty bad even after all this work. Seems like a waste.
@Kalsifer not for his health bro common. Have some common sense the sniffles when you go to be shouldnt be a probldm
Brush your teeth before bed more often please
Sorry that I don't use toothpaste that includes industrial cleaning agents and other toxic whiteners. I prefer a healthy mouth to one that meets the bullshit "pearly white" standard.
@@JawHacks how do you clean then
@@inbisibleful With finger nails
And use some interdental brushes!!
@@squamespeach7258 I use steel wool, it really scraps dirt off
What is the cost of all of this ??!
Around 8k in total with the braces. 2,000-5,000 for MSE appliance then 1000-3000 for braces.
@@rowda6968 is that how much Dr zubad newaz charges?
@@devlogsOG i think so cause thats what the RUclipsr said. I'm getting MSE soon, my doc said 16k cause he's going all-in w crozart too not just MSE. It's quite expensive but it's worth it for my health.
Did u get ur pre molar finally?