DOUBLELIFT on WHY LEAGUE IS BETTER THAN DOTA (PART 2)
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He is actually explaining why league is more popular than Dota 2, not better
Thank you!!! I hate this better or worse argument they are different and it's based on what you prefer
league players always give me the “dota is dead” like bitch? i know that, i know that dota is dying better than any gaming community. i know that valve is just using dota to gain money without giving a damn to the community. that doesn’t change the fact dota is superior, people just choose an easier game like LoL. and there’s nothing wrong at all, but it is wrong for them to come and brag at me on how good their game is. when it’s all just about their good marketing
@@adamjuwahir or some people just prefer one game over the other lol doesn’t mean one is more difficult than another
@@billybob4159 clearly you haven’t tried the game lol and yet here you are
@@adamjuwahir I have
The difference is LoL is 5 people pingpong and dota is 5 man chess.
Fax
Agreed but not really sure if league is ping-pong I think it's a new version of ludo 😂
@@trainerrrssright
Common idiots always say this statement.😂
Exactly
"In dota if you position badly youre fucked" is how it should be
I feel like this statement applies to the most of competitive games. It’s not a solid argument :/
Yes and also in league if you behind on your lane you are most definitely fucked no way to comeback like you can't jungle or do anything I played league as a top and I cannot for the life of me describe how depressing it is to be ganked early and go 0/1 And just lose my entire lane completely
@@gen169 seems like bad gameplay design tbh
Blink dagger, bkb, ghost scepter, tornado, cloak, everything helps. Fk flash
@@rinreborn7364not to mention character specific stuff like blink abilities, time walk, simian stride on mk, etc etc
One of the things I love about Dota is that everyone has the insane stuff that league characters only get when they’re released broken as hell.
I have played both and to be 100% honest, Dota is most balanced throughout all the heroes. By that, I mean 98% of the characters are seen in matches. While in LoL, I mostly see meta comp like lee sin or rengar jungle, jinx adc etc
I feel like Riot is just too focus on the cosmetics side of their games instead of the gameplay.
But dota is a ded game
@@gilangsaputra6333 most people only searching for a casual game, so its understandable why game liek Dota 2, CSGO, and siege where u can only have fun when u tryhard is dying
@@gilangsaputra6333 ur mom is ded
@@gilangsaputra6333 dead for you but not for millions.. the fact that I can get role queue ranked game in under 5mins everytime proves that
@@yjas8904 millions 🤣
During 70 mins of the game, the winning probabilty is often still 50-50 in DotA 2. Even if its a one-sided, there's always somehow a chance of a comeback. Despite the vast mechanics and the crazy amount of detail DotA 2 has, the satisfaction and enjoyment hits really different.
Fact
Thats why there is no surrender button, anything can happen
@@sun.flower_breezy there is surrender button. after 30 mins u can type gg and surrender like in the lobby game
@@QWERTY-gp8fd this is exactly what ppl who dont play dota will say and this just proves the how low league players brain like
@@faisalsalik5595 bro read the f,ucking patch notes.
Jul 7, 2022
Full parties may now all chat "gg" to surrender a match after 30 minutes of game time with the same 10 second countdown and cancel UI as in pro games.
@@QWERTY-gp8fdyou didn't read all, its only applicable to 5 man party. If solo q or not 5 man party, nothings gonna happen even if everyone says gg
I've always thought what the hell are all these lol players talking about dota being laggy isn't that an Internet thing? Dota has bad servers in the US or something?
Then I realised ohhh LOL has no delay mechanic's like cast points or animation timing or turning rate... I can imagine the frustrations of a LOL player first time playing against a hero like bat rider or something and seeing their lil ol sniper turning like a freaking tank 😂😂😂
Cuz each dota hero has different turn rate and attack animation latency which makes these lol player feels laggy.
@@SomewhereFarBeyond yes but you can literaly see your hero turn when you click, so why ask yourself why it feels laggy? U CAN LITERALY SEE THE TURN RATE lol players are just stupid small minded people, lol has the quality of a mobile game no cap
@@kuriosagamisou1330said by someone who could even play league if they wanted to. Just say you have stockholm syndrome for your janky ass worthless game lol.
Not to mention how BB mechanics work🤣🤣
@@kuriosagamisou1330ur delusional and cringe for saying no cap.
we now call turn rate and animations "lag"
you don't see mechanics If you don't even realize they exist
He's saying it feels like lag, which is fair.
@@sttate you can say delay but not lag, it gets the wrong impresion to people who havent played it, delay is different than lag
Yeah its shit lol
Well he said it feels like that. Matter of preference I think.
Dota 2 bans Smurfs. That makes it superior to League by an insurmountable amount.
Wtf? Off to Dota I go!
lol bans smurfs too. Most likely, you've heard somewhere that smurfs are banned in Dota and that you've been run over by a fresh acc rengar with 30 kills in your League of Legends platinum
Smurfs who are banned by both MOBA'S is the guys, intentionally placed their rank super low with inting, and then there is 40 kills in their iron, or gold, depends, and then again a bunch of games where he doesn't try at all, not the guys who just climbing on different account. In your opinion, high elo players should play ranked only on their account, never creating a new one, because newcomers will be offended?
@@oldfaq93 we got the professional yapper over here, all that turd talk lol streamers smurf all the time and gets away with it, you just look like a clown right know 😂😂
@@oldfaq93 League bans scripters, but they don't ban smurfs at all dude. It's factually proven that smurfs are plenty in League, or at least plenty more than DotA. I am saying this as a League player btw, there is no bias.
@@MattHatter360 re-read my comment to what you replied
In dota all heroes are free from the beginning and you can play in any region.
Different region doesn't give bad ping?
@@karmaisntreal it’s really not bad up to 100 ping, I have friends in other regions . I don’t like that you have to pay to change your region.
Im in East Canada and play with my friends in JP servers i barely feel any lag. Lol
@@karmaisntrealIt does. But it depends. In Dota 2 100ping is Playable. In LOL 100ping is hell. Just make sure it is stable and you'll be fine. If it goes up for some time don't.
Im Russia server mainly, but I can play with SEA and Europe too since it's close. At Russia I'm at as low as 1 ping, at Europe I'm at 30+ Ping, at SEA I'm at 80 Ping and at US West I'm at 110+ Ping. All are playable. I'm not a fancy guy that likes to play on negative ping or 10000FPS.
If I were to ask ping wise of course Russia is better. But Europe and SEA in terms of players and feel. I play at SEA nowadays most of the time.
There are more than 10 regions, not all of them are playable but you have some alternatives from where you are from. For Example In Australia Dota is pretty much Dead so Australian Dota players switches to SEA so they can find games quicker.
@@daghetto101 bro u capping. i play lol with 300 ping and its more playable than dota with 300 ping.
Dota isnt janky at all, I think the reason why league players think its janky in terms of movement is because of the cast animation of most of the hero skills in dota which may feel like your hero is casting skills late, and of course the turn rate, league players tend to associate the slow turn rate(heroes needs to physically turn around if attacking an enemy from behind etc) of dota heroes as lag but its really not. I've played dota for 10 years now and league for 3 years, both games are great, but in terms of fun and competitiveness in ranks, dota is without a doubt superior, not saying league is bad.
"Not saying League is Bad" but yeah let's be real League is so Bad, it's just addictive because of how easy and quick the game is.
yep coz dota was more realistic in physic, i mean who the hell people who can turn around when runing and start still in 100% speed
I have less problems with the DotA/League comparison when Legaue players just say "it's the turn rate and cast points".
Like ok dude, you like faster and more responsive game. That's fine. Sometimes that's what I want in a game too.Just don't spend more time trying to make it more than that. I feel like this debate has its own turn rate and cast time tbh.
@@ProfDCoy well brother anyone how used rubicks op no castrate in dota really feels a difference rubicks can tenacly give u 3 different spells cast on ya before some heros can even turn around
@@piegumplays9059 Rubick is my most played hero bruh. I geddit.
Its all because of
Turn rate
Attack rate
Cast rate
One of the things that make dota unique from other moba
don’t forget buyback, smoke of deceit, blindspots. Meanwhile LoL has only like grass blindspot just like ML. Lmao
Also Camp stacks, creep pulling, creep blocking, terrain, fcken trees
i just cant get into dota 2 because of how sluggish piloting my character feels. i mean how am i supposed to play when my character moves like its going through thicc honey
@@zionlee1004 now play as meepo against bloodseeker and shut your little jaw
@@zionlee1004 buy some boots
Yeah that's why i always tell people "Dota 2 is not for kids"
I played Dota 1 as a 10 year old, and I didn't realized Chen was a hard hero to use
Yeah lmao Dota is brain dead bro don’t stroke your ego it’s so fucking easy haha
That is why it wont stick for new playes which makes the game die in time. Because of many content and stuff that needs to be familiarize. At least LOL will stick more to new players.
@@KrooKroo more like if people are bored with easy games, they will look for the upgrade version of it, which is rare. Reasons why League has a million player base because it caters to kids.
Thumbs up
Played League for 8 years, recently started playing Dota. I always thought that dota was strategically more complex, but league league has harder mechanics because of the lack of targeted skills.
After 100 hours in Dota I now realise that just CSing in lane in Dota is more mechanically and mentally challenging then all of League of Legends combined.
and even after 100 of hours u prolly dont even have all the mechanics down to succesfully play the lane and lasthit against an expert. thats the beauty of it..
@@lebkuchenhouse138 I'm already immortal rank. But watching TI each year, there's tons of laning mechanic I never thought about before.
100hr? I mean, 1000hr in dota is pretty newbie.
@@LongNguyen-tn6jw Iam 6500 hours game, immortal. And yeah Iam still amaze how amazing pro player mechanic are.
@@donyroza3889true sadness is having over 7k hours and still in 2k 😭😭😭😭😭 still love this game tho
@daddykratos-69 that’s the gist of it.
As a dota 2 player I whole heartedly agree. Its not that league or dota is better but that they attract different types of moba players.
As league player I don’t know where to start with Dota 2 I don’t feel dumb but I do feel overwhelmed and I know i will look dumb until I can grasp what’s actually happening in dota games I’ve been trying to get into dota 2 because it does feel different than league in a good way
@@steich3016 Yep, playing both, it's cool. Very different games.
@@steich3016 just keep playing and pick up a hero per game or a couple games. what i did is basically play every hero by alphabetical order and look up theeir builds and then slowly learn the items that way.
as for the rest of the game mechanics like runes , denies , modifiable terrain like trees , i just watched guides that teach specifically lol players about dota and i also watched BSJ for his beginner guides.
Dota = UFC
LoL = WWE
ML=WWF
STARCRAFT BROODWAR > ALL GAMES
I disagree. Dota is slow paced and chill. League is always on the edge.
I actually mained jungle in league which made the transition to dota easier as the role requires more macro play than micro.
Just 8 hours of gameplay and I'm outperforming my teammates with a long history in the game lol
Do people still play dota? 😅
Nah, I've never seen a dota player dodge an ability using only a movement input. The graphics are better in a sense but if you're the one watching it its not really better. Dota stans always boast about their Prize Pool when top league player has so much income streams that it evens out despite having modest tournament prizes. Dota fails to advertise due to how elitist the community is, The same thing happened with Wild rift.
Shadow blade, glimmer cape, force staff, pipe of insight, lotus orb
These things should be brought to counter engage
To bring shadow blade to league you would need to bring sentries and dust as well
also wraith pack 30% reduction all types of damage "so no oneshot people"
@@paquibotlouis2002 I think aeon disk works better for avoiding one shot
@@donmegalo1373 wraith pact does it* in an aoe though
To counter engage: Blink dagger if you have the the reflexes and BKB tp if the enemy team doesn't have any basher, it's actually way easier to scape alive at Dota, I almost forgot about Eul's scepter and magic sticker, as Mirana player, those items can save you from a lot of bad situations.
The “laggy” feel is due to turn rates, in league, characters scan immediately change direction, while in Dota there’s a delay, for the hero to actually turn and face the direction he’s going to travel.
That's not because of the slow mechanism of dota 2, it's because of the characteristics of the hero in dota 2.
Remember your trun rated changes when you buy specific items like boots and other items.
When I started playing Dota it felt like RNG, because i had no idea what happened when i won, and same when i lost. I think that was the thing that hooked me into playing it, the feeling of like betting idk how to explain it xD
for newbies, start playing dota2 is literally rng, completely depend on teamates and opponents
@@seelmodge7881also draft. Honestly not until somewhere between ancient and immortal do I feel people can come close to the real reason they lose
Sounds like you’re a gambling addict lmao 😂
Basically he prefers easier game and League is that game
It is not about him, it is about new players. If you have experience,you can adjust easily to Dota. If no experience at all, you will be stomped on how hard Dota is. He is stating that that is the reason why there are more league players than Dota players.
@@hermie9737 Honest, it's also because lol is becoming pretty weeb lol. And that's a popular shit. I don't except a weeb to like Lion design in dota for instance. 😂
Champion release from 2014 to 2017 have been amazing but recently 🤮
@@Wellshem I don't play the game anymore, but I know what you feel. They were more careful with how they do their skins in the past circa 2015. Skins today made a turn to whatever the audience wants.
@@Wellshem bro lion is literally egdy anime villain weebs like that shit.
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Lion is like the simplest hero in the game, he may have been referring to that. Also Lion looks like an 80s cartoon villain, not an anime villain.
Played both. And dota just feels better to play. League is easy.
Took me the same amount of time to learn both. DOTA 2’s complexity is what makes it fun, however the elitist playerbase doesn’t help.
Hell yeah. Dota is very hard itself plus new players get shit talked when they play bad. Losing motivation for weaker minded players
@@gabbytay I rather get bullied in chat while I'm new to the game than play a game and wanted to try rank but 90% of your enemies are smurf accounts because they can't rank up on their main.
I agree. As a lol player (who enjoys lol) and is looking to get into dota, it's made a tiny bit tougher by the people who say lol players are crayon-eating down syndrome patients and dota players are 700 iq world-renowned philosophers
Lol players don't even talk about dota, but dota players will often try to sneak in "..and that's why lol is a crime against humanity" in a discussion about the game
@@kalbungo788so u played LoL for a Maximum of 3 Games?
The worst thing about DotA and lol is 100% the player base
Dotes is like Guitar, it's hard to learn in the beginning so you prefer something easier like a Ukulele. over time, you learned ukulele. Finally, you just straight came back to Dotes and you felt something challenging playing Dotes and eventually, you fall in love with it
Violin vs guitar is a better comparison imo
In Dota you need 10 Braincells ID to play it meanwhile in League you just need to play and turn off your brain.
This actually a good comment if you want to double down on turning your brain off just play adc or support in lol 💯
Seems fair enough sometimes i feel mentally exjausted aftef dota mabey give lol a try qgain i usually play arena fps to relaxa my brain
Most of the items in league is all damage boost. While in dota, the more active items you got, the better.
Typical salty man.
unless you play sniper lmao
Doublelift actually make sense, i play both games
League is indeed newbie friendly but also is kinda hard to grind once you're on top because some champs can just 1 combo you with 2-4 skills and no one will be able to save you in that 1-2 sec/s
While DotA, there's no Hero that can 1 combo you in 1-2 secs (unless Kda diff is so big that kda itself can 1 combo you) plus anyone can save you if incase you got caught (so long as you are with someone and got the right skills/items) kinda easy to grind if you're on top(even at the bottom actually if you have a good mindset) because of how everyone's mind works for the same goal even if tilted
you kidding, you sure you play?.. Phantom Assassin can kill you 1 or 2 hits you're dead. SF ulit can melt you, Tiny with a blink dagger with either damage item or dagon can easily kill a support in 2 seconds, I even have unconventional build of Tusk that have divine and daedalus that can 1 hit carry or support. It depends how you dominate the game
@@abra.hui. bro u just stated his "unless"
but in the late game killing a single hero is pretty damn hard my medusa can last 2 mins literally 1v5 they even had nyx to drain my mana
it was a really fun 60 mins game all lock build
@@abra.hui.when pa is killing you, you just get ghost scepter that is cheap af. When sf is killing you with combo, you get anything that instantly moves you like force staff or you get some magic resist or you just not walk alone on possibly warded spots. You can counter ANYTHING with proper items and/or hero picks.
@@thunderlion4897bro watch abed lina even in late game he just delete their carry and no time to click Bkb 😂
Dota is like micro-managing yourself in the game because wave manipulation isn't enough to win you a game. If you play someone that multiplies like Meepo, Arc Warden, or heroes that have summons like Lone Druid and Visage, you're already controlling 2-3 of the same heroes you're controlling.
You also need to take into account the turn rate mechanic which makes kiting more or less bad in certain situations like most of the time, just standing in place while you auto is better.
You also need to keep in mind that heroes with hooks also attach to other players/creeps so if you're a Thresh main first time placing Pudge, your first instinct is to hook through your minions but you'll end up just pulling your own.
And don't even bother with Invoker. That hero has like 10 spells with different combinations of Quas, Wex, and Exort. If you mess up 1 time, your combo is already done.
Are you telling me there is NO turn rate for any hero in League??? I’ve never played it but isn’t that like… a logical mechanic to add to a game?
@@ameyakale2739 league movement is instant , which is necessary due to how fast most skillshots and abilitiy and movement overall is compared to dota.
@@ameyakale273998% skills in league are skill shots. You NEED responsitivity in order to be able to dodge the skillshot fiesta that is thrown over you.
@@user-rb6bx9sd8h ohhh then that makes sense yeah
I've been engaged with both games for eight years, and here's a simpler breakdown for each:
Dota 2:
1. I dive into Dota 2 when I'm in a serious gaming mood, as it demands my full attention.
2. Think of Dota as the Photoshop of gaming-it offers endless mechanics and outcomes.
League of Legends (LoL):
1. LoL is my go-to for a more laid-back gaming experience; even after 10 hours, I don't feel exhausted, whether I win or lose.
2. Comparatively, LoL is like Canva-simple and straightforward, with limited mechanics.
Don't misunderstand, I genuinely enjoy both games and play them daily; each has its unique appeal.
I've said it before:
Dota = Team Participation matters
League = Carry the whole team
Dota player said:"Dota is better"
Lol player couldn't deny.
a joke only dota players would understand :D
@@ghostshroud97what’s crazy is that not even a joke. It’s a fact
I mean the double elevator doesn't understand Turn rate because our heroes doesn't brake their Necks while casting a skill
he only appreciates league because its what he can understand
what you mean to say is you prefer to move slower and think slower
@@davidsantiago7808 inhaling some compium I see? Even a League pro says LOL is "dumb". LMAO.
@@scorpio5174 but thats not whats being said at all, if you really think that then perhaps you need to see a doctor.
@@davidsantiago7808 literally said "dumb down". Go and take some more copium kid. Literally can't accept it.
Played Dota for around 5000 hours before quitting and playing League afterwards. One thing I prefered is that, as a support, i feel a lot more impactful playing LoL than playing Dota, also it feels a lot better to be good at Lol champions than Dota heroes, but I also like Dota for the slightly higher freedom for creativity in offmeta picks, although both games have an absolute cancerous playerbase, despite one thinking they are better than the other, it's just pathetic.
I always felt supporting in Dota was way more impactful than in LoL, and I'm an Immortal support Dota player and a Diamond 2 support LoL player (although only play Dota now).
There is a lot more things to do as a support in Dota compared to LoL, and your spells remain impactful throughout the game regardless of your farm.
surprised you feel more impactful in league than in dota, i play both games everyday and have well over 500 hours on both, i can confidently say, in league you’re just a mage or tank that can’t take farm which is the “support” but in dota, you’re stacking camps, pulling camps, constantly roaming with TP scroll, getting bounty runes, high ground vision control, all while setting up kills for your carry. league is taking 85% of that away and just focusing on vision and setting up a kill for your laner
@@BlanksProductionsyou act like support isn’t broken in league due to roaming?
@@remusciuciu2840he still has a point
@@remusciuciu2840 by the time it takes u to roam to other lane in league (even with boots of mobility) the fight is already over , while in dota u just use a tp scroll on tower/outpost or dimensional twingate
no turn rates in league make it feel more responsive, but it is quite an interesting mechanic to balance heroes
short summary on what he said: "simple is better"
I played both. If you want a fast pace gameplay and a little bit easier, go for League. Dota on the other hand is in a different conversation. It's hard to grasp, but much-much more thrilling to play because of the mechanics. You have to actually use your brain. It has a lot of variations in items and heroes.
If you are out of position in dota buy aeon disk. Problem solved. Or buy more armor/hp items and beg supports to save you using force/glimmer and spells xd. There are plenty of outs in dota unless you are getting hard core stomped.
sadly, all of these options can be nullified by… guess what, an item called “Nullifier”, so basically if the enemy is competent enough, you’re fucked if you’re out of position in both games.
@@PhuongTran-hm4dy Nullifier is a very very situational item. You're not gonna get it just to counter those items mentioned.
@@daghetto101 yeah, I agree. I just mentioned it as an option to counter survivabilities in the late game (especially against aeon disks)
Regi Rock’s comment makes it seem impossible to counter some items which may confuse some non-dota players.
@@PhuongTran-hm4dy linken and bkb counter nullifier it ain't a problem if you get hexed then you're fucked...
Just dagger out quick in the tree 😂
The janky feeling in dota is the turn rate and cast animations, whereas in lol I believe those are instant or much quicker.
To counter engage: Blink dagger if you have the the reflexes and BKB tp if the enemy team doesn't have any basher, it's actually way easier to scape alive at Dota, I almost forgot about Eul's scepter and magic sticker, as a Mirana player, those items can save you from a lot of bad situations.
harder =/= better.
A bitter pill to swallow for Dota players cos they want to feel validated for "mah hardcore skills which impresses loads of people".
No one cares, just play what u like. Elitist mentality is ass.
But easy = dumber. Easy to swallow for LOL players because they accept it.
@@scorpio5174 if u wanted to prove me otherwise, ironically your comment just reinforces it. Nice try still. As i said, play what u like. nobody cares u play dota or league
@@cruddynever just wanted to clarify and just say facts that League is just the dumber version of the original. And I love taunting LOL players.
@@scorpio5174 still proving my point, no matter your justification is for jerking yourself off or "love triggering lol players". People don't care u play league or dota mate. That's not the bar for human achievement.
@@cruddynever bruh... at that point the debate was already settled coz I didn't really cared what people like or dislike and you replying back just feeds me. You don't realize this?
That's why dota is better than any MOBA game... Because of it's complexity and challenging strats.... Laning techniques, denying, creep agro, solo and team initiations, equip items properly in every situation.. "DOTA is a mental game", Notail said... And thats why we love DOTA
Ya I’d agree I want to learn dota the complexity is a good thing just don’t know where to start lol
@@steich3016 start by accepting defeat like grown man (not targeting you personally ofc) and it will be easy
@@steich3016 start from read a heroes and try every hero atleast once so you have a basic idea, then play like 2-3 hero to master your gameplay in that hero
That's why it's better than any MOBA game... In your opinion. Maybe people don't like all those things. Your opinion is not fact. Champion mechanics are 100% harder in League though. You'll never see a Faker vs Ryu in DoTA because DoTA isn't that type of game.
Harder game is better is so dumb. Its like would you want to waste your whole life on a game so you are stuck being a loser irl or choose to play something fun and just enjoy the game. Not saying league is much better but so cringe when people say "people who don't play a certain game is because they have too low of a iq" like bruh most people don't even have time to play video games cause they are busy irl.
It’s been a yr and this short still comes to my fyp. 😂
Why go for something cheaper when u can get the original
To all the people that didn't play dota, by "janky and laggy" he means dota has a mechanic called "turn rate", so your hero takes some time to turn around, while in league it doesn't exists and you can instantly walk back and forth.
It's better cause it's fast paced, it's not an RTS, it doesn't need to be over complicated, but it can still be a challenge cause you take time mastering the small amount of mechanics, this is a Moba not chess
@@rainesaysdie863"haha I'm so dumb so lol is better" 🤣🤣
@@iqbalaristima7700 no, not everything needs to be complicated, Dota players are so elitist and think they're so much smarter than league players because their games take a million years and have a bunch of unnecessary mechanics. And even if playing dota did mean you're smarter, that doesn't mean it's good
@@rainesaysdie863its not unecessary at all, its makes the game more interesting, more depth and everything. its like photoshop vs canva basically.
@@handofmidas9609 I guess it's preference. Dota isn't a bad game. But I don't like it because when I sit down to play a moba I'm not looking for something super in depth that's gonna take me a long time. I'm looking for something easy to learn but hard to master that doesn't take too long. Maybe that is what you're looking for which is fine. I'm probably wrong saying it's unnecessary, but I also don't think it makes it better either. Just depends what you're looking for.
You play league so you can learn some stuff and then when you are ready then you go to dota. League is just the tutorial for dota.
You are just salty 😊
DOTA is for boomers who don’t have the reaction time to play league
Just the customization aspect of Dota, I could never go to League
I picked up dota a day before thanksgiving… I have 24 hours played now
Playing Dota was like playing a chess while playing league is playing checkers
More like tic-tac-toe lol
laying chess on a high lvl is just memorizing the max amount of games played by the others so this comparison isn't really a compliment
Harder game is better is so dumb. Its like would you want to waste your whole life on a game so you are stuck being a loser irl or choose to play something fun and just enjoy the game. Not saying league is much better but so cringe when people say "people who don't play a certain game is because they have too low of a iq" like bruh most people don't even have time to play video games cause they are busy irl.
Nobody plays MOBA to play "chess", Dota is a slow-ass game with zero reaction time needed and is just boring. That's why it's a dead game.
@@misutatomasuyeah, can't get into dota cause i don't have the time to learn to play and 1 match is too long
HE'S EXPLAINING WHY "LOL" IS LIKE CONTROLLING A REMOTE-CONTROLLED CAR TOY AND DOTA 2 IS LIKE FLYING AN ACTUAL PLANE
wait til you see 7.36. It's not for the faint of heart hahahah
Oh man i like how every hero in lol is like bb just press qwe or what ever spammable
. Dota is the better game, if you got the balls.
Sounds like a skill issue to be honest
One bad game in dota and you feel likr shit and players bring out worst in you but its so damn addictive
" of to " hit me different
I really wish I learned dota 2 earlier, the mountain of information in that game you have to grasp just to play at a low level is kinda embarrassing. In league of u don’t know how to play, you just play support and pray for the 50-50
League players don’t know what turn rate and cast rates are. Then proceeds to call their game “better”. LOL.
Usually dota heroes with passive skills are the easiest to grasp but that depends if you're building them with minimum to no items with active skills such as dagon.
Lmfaooo 6 Slotted PA. Dagger to blink and dead . Sometimes dagger is all you need lol
9:57 my man stuttering I feel u bro 😢
Dota has so much more to offer, and no one is willing to take the time to learn it.
Some people are looking to games simply to have an enjoyable time. League is a more enjoyable experience on average compared to Dota. You can't and shouldn't expect people to invest the amount of time required to learn how to properly play an arguably over complex... game. This isn't grasping a complex mathmatical formula, blueprint, or metaphysical concept... it's a video game, a form of entertainment most look towards for respite from life and an ounce of fun. I'm glad a lot of people like Dota, but it's doomed to be niche in comparison to its competitors.
if i played dota when i was younger id like it more probably, i just dont have the willingness to stuff my mouth full of shit for 200 hours like i used to. im not old, but im to the point where id rather just, get bored, jump to one of the other 5 games i play, repeat. i try to play dota twice a year, get stomped in beginner matches as a diamond player, or sit in 20 min queue, then quit.
it is both the allure and demise of dota
That means people have a life and doesn't want to waste away on some video game?
Wow he is actually saying "I have small brain, that's why I play league"
And develops it
Harder game is better is so dumb. Its like would you want to waste your whole life on a game so you are stuck being a loser irl or choose to play something fun and just enjoy the game. Not saying league is much better but so cringe when people say "people who don't play a certain game is because they have too low of a iq" like bruh most people don't even have time to play video games cause they are busy irl.
@@hyui5096 lol has almost 0 active items, every hero oneshots you, every hero constantly blinks, dodges, disappears. Mages for some reason deal AP dmg to towers with their auto attack, there is no runes in the game, jungle sucks, no tutorial, no interactions with spells of other heroes
@@egor9603 Who are you even aruging to? Did you even read my message? Hard games are not a good game objectively. Both league and dota's community and the game is cancer. Most people grow up and stop playing these games because they don't have time to waste on a game that is not fun nor enjoyable without constantly sinking tens of hours per month at least to just to keep up with the meta. The point of a game is enjoyment not how hard it is. People who focuses on "this game is so hard so im so impressive" usually don't have much going for them irl. Objectively people play video games BECAUSE it is easy and fun as you don't achieve anything in it otherwise. Also, i am blocking you so don't expect a response from me because there is this saying. It is hard to win a argument against a genius but it is impossible to win a argument against a idiot and i recognize now that you are a idiot.
@@egor9603half of these are wrong
So basically whats more chinese msrket title or more accesible(simplified)
Cast rate and turn rates are the icing of the cake for a game. It makes the game more realistic 😂
play dota 2 arcade it's fun
dota still number 1
When you're out of position ur f I feel that
As a dota 1 and dota 2 player dota is my main game but when i stop playing Ang came back after 7 years it’s hard to go into dota again if you have a different main game now😢 but still play it 1 and 2 games
Basically league is casual, dota is hardcore. Im a hardcore gamer so obvious choice it is
Not necessarily. DOTA is less casual, but that doesn’t mean it’s a “hardcore” game if you don’t want to play it that way.
@@IzigurandI mean no have you seen the chat for league ranked lol. Also they are just different but still need high levels of skill to be great at.
I've played both league and dota 2, league feels like wearing shoes that don't fit your feet.
All i got out of this is turn rate = laggy
Remember bulldog watching lol wolrd champion, 1st blood in 27mins and game ends in like 8 total kills for both team.
Too many people are ego invested in the idea that one is better then the other or "harder" to play just play what you want and just like the majority of people you probably suck anyways lol
He isnt explaining why lol is better, just why it’s more popular. It’s easier and noob friendly, dota is more of an elitist game, much more complex and hard to get in to… but make no mistake, dota2 is much much better than lol, it’s way better balance and all heroes are viable not just the “20 of the patch” like in lol, where if you pick anything outside of those 20 you just lose because everyone else is playing the op champs… also check pick diversity in the world cup of either game, lol is sometimes under 50% of champs PICKED OR BANNED, while dota always have 90% of heroes picked/banned.
Plus dota is the closest moba to a RTS
League is nowhere near RTS games
You sound so unhinged by saying "DoTA is an elitist game". Acting like you're better because of the fact you play DoTA xD
At the end of the day, we're all just gamers playing the game we enjoy. No need to put yourself on a higher pedestal. If you really want to act high and mighty, start playing chess. Now that's a big brain game.
i've grinded dota for a whole ass year just to get better at it and get a hang of it, one of the hardest games i've ever played but the most satisfying one once you get a hang of it
Is he talking about the turn rate in dota
To learn the mechanics of the hardest champs compared to the hardest hero’s. Man dota mechanics r way more intense.. learn invoker or meepo.. after that go learn yasuo or anyone in league and u will understand the gap of difficulty
yasuo just spam 3rd skill and first skill then tornado and Ulti
yasuo isn't a hard champ. Irelia, qiyana, gragas combos are hard to pull off. Yasuo's hardest combo is like e q flash with the circle knock up then r. Irelia for example you can minion q auto q for short trades, you can e minion q auto e q q back q in auto for an extended trade. High apm arthritis champ, only character in the game i get stomped on when i try to play it.
"oh a game is harder, im stupid so its the worse game"
People couldn’t just prefer the easier gameplay though. I don’t think you should call them stupid. I really don’t know League though, maybe it is easier.
@@ChadKakashistrategy wise? Yes. Its easier.
Mechanically? League is insanely harder than Dota. Cuz 98% of league skills are skill shots, most of the skills can be animation cancelled and every champion nowadays has more than 3 dashes, a good lucian can make his dash 0 seconds of CD for as long as he can keep animation cancelling his autos.
A single shit hits you, and youre dead in 0,001 seconds and etc.
Also champions in league usually have a more mechanically intense kits which much more options.
People in dota loves to talk all about meepo snd shit like that, but meepo is hard becuz he turns the moba gameplay into an RTS gameplay.
@@user-rb6bx9sd8hinsanely harder??? Lol only has to worry about creeps blocking their skills but if there aren't any then its just who is the faster one to throw their skills, Dota 2 has not only have to worry about creeps blocking their skill but also creep aggro which can also basically block your path, highground visions, Skills and Items which literally force you to play with 6 buttons(heroes like snipers and Ls) up until to 15+(invoker, you need to create a combination of quas ,exort and wex and you need to remember all the combinations too), Also most items in DOTA are mostly active items.
@@fallenonegaming1290 i play both games. Mechanically league is more demanding. You wobt die in 0.003 Seconds in dota, you have TONS of counterplay to everything the game throws at you.
A game having more buttons dont make it actually harder, keyboard efficiency and smart keybinds disposition make it trivial, you wont be pressing ALL the buttons at the same time or activate 6 itens instantly midfight. You do It when its necessary.
Stop using invoker as an example for "look How hard dota is", invoker is a unique character by its own. Meepo too, Chen and beast master are much harder than Meepo in EVERY aspect anyway.
As i Said league punishes your mistakes much, much harder than Dota. One mistep and you 3000 health pool goes to zero in a Blink.
One mistakes in lane and you get Frozen and theres nothinh you can do.
You talk about Aggro in dota as If in league manipulating minion Aggro wasnt important too. In dota If you screw your Lane equilibrium you can Just go for a pull or give up the Minions and go Farm the jungle.
In league If you screw up your Lane and the enemy freezes, enjoy being 60 CS behind the whole game :)
What?! If you position bad in league you just die tf. In dota you can get an item to counter what type of engage your facing and not die
Thanks for confirming what we all thought already. Go to league noobs
hes basically saying "i have smaller brain so i play easier game"
Nop. LoL more hard
@@vincentvadaax1556💀
@@vincentvadaax1556you mean hard to win because of noob players
Harder game is better is so dumb. Its like would you want to waste your whole life on a game so you are stuck being a loser irl or choose to play something fun and just enjoy the game. Not saying league is much better but so cringe when people say "people who don't play a certain game is because they have too low of a iq" like bruh most people don't even have time to play video games cause they are busy irl.
calling people salty, then replying to every negative league comment LMAO@@vincentvadaax1556
turn rate is called lag now okay!
Pretty low barriers to entry if you ask me
At this point dota doesnt care about popularity, the debate is what game is harder and which players are better than others
At the highest level:
mechanically : LoL players, faster paced game , more abilities to aim ,and dodge .
strategically and decision making wise: dota players.
@@idirbouchdoug1567go play dota, it's harder mechanically too compared to lol
There are shit tons of different mechanisms you need to understand for you to play better
"League is better because I'm dumb"
Perfect. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Dota is better because it is more complicated. What a stupid argument.
dota complex. get out of your mother's basement please. you don't see league players foaming at the mouth trying to defend their game XD!!! really tells you something
@@whereswaldo1376 And yet - here I am - seeing a League player foaming at the mouth - hahaha.
Keep giving Tencent in China your money, kid.
@@MrFuggleGuggle you're just an elitist
@@whereswaldo1376 You actually do, you just live under a rock.
The thing he's saying about positioning only holds for certain heroes plus a lot of the supports meant to provide this fallback mechanic, not to mention a lot of tje items
In dota, everyone can buy force staff too help disengagement, and it is not 5 min cd too
Well said, man. I think dota has so much cool stuff in it, but it just feels clunky compared to LoL. I can't quite put my finger on it; it just feels off. I love both games, though
Dota 2 has a slowed down turn rate , lol
Is instant turn rate
It's not clunky... it's just 10x more complex
get spider leg in natural creep u will have 50% percentage of turn rate it feels like lol. very responsive 😂😂
the turn rates are there for a reason. Imagine playing against Sniper who can hit you from a screen away while being able to kite smoothly as an league ADC.
Play smite
a lot of things working against it, being popular
It's not for kids which is most video games are meant to be.
Dota 2 International (world championship) Prize pool is about 15 times League of legends.
So yeah it said a lot of things.
The complexity is harder than Lol, that's the biggest difference. But it's also a plus, player keep finding new way to use a hero. Support base hero for carry, tank/str hero to jungle, carry/agility hero for support.
I got 6.5k MMR, but still I learned many new moves/build from others.
That's the beauty of Dota.
Dota is the closest moba to the RTS genre
Thats how complex is it
If lol is easy compared to DOTA then become challenger in lol lmao.
Straight up copium kiddo. Even RIOT says League is the simplified version of DOTA. Even a pro League player says League is just the dumber version of it. I guess it hurts your feelings when a pro of your game admits something that you can't take LMAO.
DOTA 2 >>>> League of Legends (gameplay)
RIOT > VALVE (marketing)
@@scorpio5174 dota players never fail to get mad over league being more popular.
@@jackielin7943 LOL. Mad? Why are you LOLSERS even can't say something other that it's popular. It always just it's "popular". Can't defend anything about it's gameplay because you guys know it's just too easy compared to DOTA 2. It's REALLY popular because it caters a way different audience, just like MOBILE LEGENDS in SEA. Plus RIOT > VALVE in advertisement and marketing but the game is just donwgrade to the original. LOL was made to cater to new MOBA players. DOTA 2 was made to cater to the old DotA players.
@@scorpio5174 Lmao malding kid over here. Imagine being mad that a game is more popular than yours. League is literally rent free in dotatards heads.
@@jackielin7943 ok i got challenger in lol mobile so? Is this trash game called lol a pc game or a trash cash grab mobile game? Lmfao
Dota is way harder than league but definitely more balanced than league
And the gameplay isn't just farm-gank-farm-push-kill and support can actually do something and also the meta is really flexible wich is really nice because they don't have to pump out 5 champion each year to make the game better
More balanced u say? PA blinks then oneshots you. Balanced ? dumbfuck
Support is literally the most busted role in league lmao. Pos 5 is the shittiest dota role tho, even your pros won't use that role to climb.
@@imnormal-sl8mj "even your pros won't use that role to climb" uhh okay LMAO
@@imnormal-sl8mj most of the captains in pro dota teams if not all are pos5, how is it busted. did you say it coz you have the lowest farm priority? LOL
Remember: it is still in beta version
Im dumb so ill play league. Hahahaha
Easy
Checkers vs Chess
LOL vs DOTA
I'll take my W and leave.
So league is better bcs its easier to play ? What kind of mentality is this 🤣🤣
and thats why League player base grew and dota is dying
@@Chesteritea they just attract different players.
Dota 2 attracts Strategic and Teamworking Players meanwhile League Attracts Retards and Horny fuckers. (That's me too)
@@Chesteritea how is dota dying? Its among the top 5 most watched games on twitch. One of the biggest esports with the largest prize pool. Tell me. Its player base has been constant.
@@Chesteritea you know that unlike lol, we have the number on steamchart? It's always growing 😎
@@Chesteritea what kind of dope are you taking can i have some? 🤣
" i suck therefore it is bad'
tiny airlines is a meme build, i havent seen anyone play tiny in literally a year, atleast in the 5k bracket
Dota is just league stuck in the past
Please do some research before commenting this dogshit
More like league in hard mode. 🤣
@@gabbytay that's usually what happens when a game gets outdated, it becomes harder, like league once was, believe me it's not a flex to play dota, its just stupid in this day and age😂
@@nadeemsaif6507 i Still enjoy dota everyday. I dont know but i play in the divine immortal bracket. I enjoy on how my brain is being used to understand each game. Maybe for lower mmr players or the casual players the stress gets to them. 🤣
LoL players play dota: OMG! they can kill their own creeps?? THAT IS SO BULLSHIT! proceed to leave the game and uninstall.
Jokes aside, i believe that both games are complicated in their own way but back then i had a few friends that played dota for years but was still incredibly bad at it. They went to play league and did better then they ever did in Dota. Coincidence? No. They themselves admitted that LoL is much easier to play because there's less things to think about and it's much more straightforward where as in Dota it's so punishing even from the small detail/mistake.
"You can flash out" mans never heard of force staff?
flash is signifanctly faster and is INSTANT . it gives you a lot more room to react.
True XDD
like in league u lose a late game fight u automatically lose cus you can't buyback and ur tower dies easily like a damn paper with shitty barracks and no forti
@@PepeAlvin and dota towers hit like a wet noodle and can be dove indefinitely when you get vanguard. while in league if you dive a tower that early you die in 4 hits. towers agro could also easily be redirected by attacking an allied creep and tower doesnt focus you when you attack an enemy.
also i dota you could liteeally siege a tower out of its range of attack so it is eve more useless.
so tl dr : league towers are useful but a bit more fragile while dota towers are useless but a bit harder to kill.
Hell even the foutain can be dove for extended amount of time in dota with illusion heroes and tanky heroes.
@@idirbouchdoug1567 exactly. It's defense of the ancient u protect towers not like a pussy that still gets exp in a losing lane
Man’s discovered turn rate and calls it lag Lmoao
Everyone defend all their game, what im gonna say is facts : league has the most boring esports, 1 single team fight and then the games is over like wtf? Dats why Dota is the better game cuz its entertaining to watch the esports
League player here, also seeing the same fucking comps:
-Gnar/Aatrox/Gragas. Top
-Sejuani/Viego/Maokai. Jg
-Sylas/Akali/Azir. Mid
-Varus/Lucian/MF. Adc
-Nami/Amumu/Renata. Supp
Every single match is so boring, and not to mention this year's Yuumi 95% pick/ban rate and 100% win rate.
A lot of matches this year were decided on draft, a competitive game shouldn't be like that.
@@kenjispas783 the only fun part in league is outside the game like kda, and arcane
@@migueltlg the lore is also cool, and they're working on new projects like the MMO and Fighting Game
@@kenjispas783 yeah, i dont have hope for the league of legends to be fun. But hope the mmo will be a game changer, cuz riot is pretty good at making a f2p game