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There's actually something really interesting implied by Betty Boop's line of Jessica being the lucky one in her and Roger's relationship. Valiant, the other humans in the film, and even the male viewers, see Jessica as a sex symbol, a hot icon. Hence Valiant's line of "SHE'S married to Roger Rabbit?" As in, she's too good for him. But from the toon perspective, Jessica is the nobody because she's not funny. Fascinatingly different perspectives.
They did give her some funny bits in the comic. They gave her a nemesis, completely unknown to her. The character keeps trying to destroy Jessica out of jealousy, and Jessica keeps sailing through the traps, unaware she's even in danger!
Rogers inability to squeeze out of the cuffs until it was funny shows the utility of his power, and how physics operates differently for toons. Excellent point you made.
@@williammeyer2584 It's really showcased in how she responds when Eddie asks what she sees in Roger. "He makes me laugh." So simple, yet for a toon, that's everything.
Rodger and Jessica’s relationship actually kinda works when you really look at it. Jessica is an obvious sex symbol that most men would want, but Rodger loves her more than just her figure. The “make me laugh” line makes sense because he truly just wants to make her laugh. She admires his innocents and passion. Betty Boop says that Jessica is the lucky one because from the toons side Rodger is technically a famous actor.
Fun fact: The three ingredients listed to make The Dip (turpentine, acetone, and benzine) are all paint thinners, which is used to erase mistakes in drawn animation.
27:59 Apparently there was a version of the script where Doom's true Toon identity is revealed (he turns out to be the hunter who shot Bambi's mother) but that got binned. Also there were plans for a prequel set during World War 2 where Roger would join a "Toon Platoon" (who, in keeping with the "toons are a minority" thing, wouldn't be given the same respect as non-toon soldiers), fight Fifth Columnists, rescue his future wife Jessica from being forced to make pro-Nazi cartoons and at the end discover that he's Bugs Bunny's illegitimate son. Pity this never got made, it could've been fantastic.
One of the other comments is saying Doom might be a toon called the "Pistol Packing Possum" in the final version. You can see his poster at 23:50 as Maroon gets shot. The outfit and gun are similar to Doom's and the Possum is the only other toon with red eyes. In fact the Possum's gun is pointing right at Maroon. Combine that with the fact that possums have a squeaky voice, and it matches Doom pretty perfectly. Never heard about the prequel script, where did you hear about it?
Fun fact: Bob Hoskin’s son, who was six at the time, didn’t speak to him for two weeks because he was mad at his dad, thinking he actually worked with Bugs Bunny and didn’t bring him to meet him. So cute.
@@RantRadio edited for facts. Bob Hoskins said in an interview his son didn’t speak to him for two weeks because he thought he got to work with cartoon characters and didn’t let him meet them. Still really cute, especially from a kid.
@@winterlynn9012 honestly i think that's for the best cause as much as I love Eddie Murphy I think Hoskins brought a genuine and real emotion to the role and I'm not saying he can't do emotion but there was just a real sympathy and vulnerability to Hoskins that I don't think Murphy could duplicate
@@DarkKnightofAnime well said. Hoskins OWNED this role and while it is great to think of Charlie Fleischer running around in a rabbit costume, to think Hoskins acted so well by himself and at an X on a wall or something at times it's even better.
Fun fact: The script directed him not to blink. When he read that notation he exclaimed "He's a toon isn't he?!" guessing the movie's twist from that note alone.
@@SquishyProductions He read that he shouldn't blink, and came to the immedate conclusion that a cartoon character passing as human would naturally wear fake eyes. I don't know whether to love the guy a little more... or be slightly afraid of him.
I think one of the most underrated moments is when Eddie says to Betty, "Yeah. You still got it." He's smiling as he says it. It's the first time we see him truly smile in the whole movie. It shows that even though he may hate toons in general he still has affection for Betty. It's another great bit of character beat that adds to Eddie.
And yet the smile has a bit force into it. His current toon bias is there cause of what happened to his brother, but he’s pushing it aside for Betty’s sake.
It might be because he grew up watching her cartoons since she is an older cartoon character within the movie. So he might have a soft spot for her cause of his childhood.
@@さくら-l8t It could be. It's possible since she's an older cartoon that Eddie watched her with his brother and father. That sort of nostalgia could be another reason why he has a soft spot for Betty.
22:04 The reason Judge Doom and the Weasels don't react to the "Shave and a Haircut" trick is because it wouldn't be funny for them to do it. It's why Roger can't get out of the cuffs until it's funny. For Roger, him bursting through the walls and outing himself only for a punchline is so ridiculous that it's torture for him not to do it. For the Judge and Weasels, it's not funny and so they don't feel the urge to act.
According to Wikipedia, this movie is a big part of the reason that the Disney Renaissance came to be. If so, then you can say that it DID jumpstart a new evolution in film.
It also began a whole new love and appreciation for animation since the 1940s when it was the Golden Age of Animation. In the late 80s and 90s, not only was Disney the biggest with their animation studios, but other companies brought in a new wave of animated movies and TV shows, many of which are still talked about today.
@@TGwA1993 I insisted on watching The Little Mermaid every day for a year. I was really little, about 3 years old, I think. XD I used to know the entire movie by heart.
Fun Fact: While Mickey has a few more seconds of screen time in the falling scene, he and Bugs still have the exact same amount of screen time because they both show up at the end of the film, and Bugs gets just a few more seconds than Mickey does. They actually do it subtly by using Bugs' height to their advantage.
Another fun fact: Earlier when Eddie enters the bathroom only to find out there's no floor underneath him. If you look on the wall where it says, "For a good time, call Allyson Wonderland...", in the VHS release, below that phrase is listed a phone number. Apparently it was real and would ring up the phone line at then Walt Disney CEO Michael Eisner's office. The animators had a little fun with that, I'll bet. It was changed for the DVD release and later to be the phrase you now see.
Jessica Rabbit's line "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" is not odd for being iconic. If anything, that line sums up Jessica's character perfectly. On top great pun with her being a literally *drawn* toon, but as a mysterious bombshell woman, she can be easily mistaken to be a conniving sleaze or a floozy by how she's approached or her design alone. When in reality, she's actually a very wholesome and honest person who adores her husband despite her character role and physical appearance saying otherwise. So even though she isn't bad, she's *drawn* to seem that way to others.
That somehow reminded me of Miranda Lawson in ME2, she was made to be cold, b-word-y, sexualised and "perfect" her whole life, but deep inside she has phychological traumas, a will to protect her sister...and wardrobe full of very tight-to-skin outfits which are somehow useful not only in a battlefield (thanks to kinetic barriers) but even on different planets and a vacuum (And she doesn't even wear a helmet)
It also ties in with the allegory to racism the video mentions. People have preconceived notions of her based solely on how she looks instead of getting to know what’s inside.
@@asherikamichaela8425 I was only 6 when I first saw it and had been to a few funerals by then and also idiotically grabbed a glowing red hot stove element twice a few years earlier (which I remember still being fresh in my mind at the time) so I had a pretty good grasp (pun intended) of what was happening which made me feel sick to the stomach and want to cry. Still loved the film though.
I heard it was originally supposed to be a toon gophers instead of a toon shoe. The gopher was also supposed to be able to talk and have some pretty horrific final words and scream as it was dipped.
"I have to find my darling husband....I'm so worried about him" "Seriously!?......What do you see in that guy?!?!......" "he makes me laugh." - One of the greatest, most perfectly delivered lines in film history. That one line sums up how well the people who made this movie understand what makes cartoons so great.
Why Roger Rabbit isn't a well known character: Throughout the late 80s and early 90s, Disney made a push to turn Roger Rabbit into their next big character, with him prominently appearing in theatrical shorts, television specials, comics and he had a notable presence in the Disney parks. *However, this ended as Disney ran into issues with Steven Spielberg and Amblin Entertainment, who co-owned the the film's characters and had to approve any new production that featured them. Additionally, the emerging Disney Renaissance meant that the company had a slew of new and popular characters that they could promote instead.*
So when is the Live Action Remake of this video? You know Disney would do such a thing. Roger becomes an children's entertainer by wearing a bunny costume all the time.
Fun fact: the scene with Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse: Disney was the one who said that Bugs should deliver the punchline about the spare tire because they think it makes more sense.
The way Mickey just says, "Aw, poor fella. Ha-Ha!" with that iconic Mickey laugh made me half to pause the video just to laugh. It's like that entire South Park episode where Mickey beats up the Jonas Brothers and laughs the whole time, condensed into 1 line.
My theory for why Doom and the weasels didn't react to "Shave and a Haircut": The weasels were probably covering their ears to block it out. As for Judge Doom, it's possible he spent years training himself to resist the behaviors of toons to appear more human, thus subjecting himself to the song over and over until he was able to build up enough willpower to fight off his natural tune urges.
My theory is that, well, Doom WASN'T able to resist the Shave and a Haircut trick. It's just that he didn't _respond_ to it, he just set it up. Ergo, he couldn't resist using it to flush out Roger.
@@GrahamChapman for one, Comedy trumps all for toons. Judge Doom finishing it (or even the Hyenas finishing it) wouldn't be funny. THe gag that's getting set up is Roger crashing through the wall. Also: yes, one can interprete the fact that Doom starts mouthing along with the tune (despite his voice at that sound level probably not penetrating the wall) as him not being above it after all.
@@undertakernumberone1 Correction: Weasels, not Hyenas... And yes, basically this. Doom wasn't able to resist setting up the gag, and he even started mumbling "shave and a haircut" just before Roger reached his breaking point, but finishing the gag himself just wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective -- and since Toons are all about narrative rules, (primarily comedic ones, but Doom ticks off a lot of dramatic ones as well,) he simply didn't feel the compulsion to finish the gag... You actually _could_ argue that it would've been hilarious if one of the Weasels had finished the gag, but since Roger was present, and the gag revolved around flushing him out, it once again wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective to diffuse the situation with one of the Weasels breaking out "TWO BITS!"
It might have worked better if we were shown the weasels possibly mouthing the two bits and visibly struggling with it. I always figured Doom could resist it because he was doing the call, not the response and thus wasn't required to be the one to finish it.
YES and a line at the beginning where Roger's boss accuses him of not seeing Jessica correctly "he thinks she's Martha Stewart" really says something because near the end when she said she'd bake him a carrot cake when they got home it made me wonder if Roger was the one who saw her for who she was/the way she wanted to be seen, as a loving caring wife 🥰
Actually The scene of Eddie pouring out his whiskey was less of a message and more of a million themes and ideas all at once moment. It's him facing his past. Finally letting go of his bitterness. Getting rid of the crutch he's been using for years, rejecting what he's become and recapturing who he was. Basically. IT's every kind of Facing his demons moment possible.
The Jessica "lookalike" is Lena the Hyena, "the world's ugliest woman", from the comic strip Li'l Abner. It was a running gag that she was so ugly, her face was always covered up by an editorial note explaining that the note was there to protect the readers. Eventually, there was a contest for readers to submit their own designs for Lena, which was won by the phenomenal artist, Basil Wolverton.
As cool as this would be, Lena Hyena (without the "the") from Roger Rabbit is just a seperate character. That being said, due to the identical names and similar characteristics, it would stand to reason that the Roger Rabbit character was inspired by the Lil' Abner character.
The reason Mickey shows up a few seconds earlier, as far as I can tell, is likely because there's a shot earlier in the film that shows Bugs walking down the street by himself, so Mickey showing up earlier in the skydiving scene is likely to balance that out.
@@zbr76 you sure about that? I’m looking at the shot from the beginning and that’s very clearly a gray and white rabbit with white gloves, obviously Bugs, and not the prototype, which was pure white with no gloves.
@@zbr76 It looks identical to the Bugs design used for every other scene in the movie, but if it makes you happy to imagine that it's not Bugs then more power to ya.
Someone on RUclips actually timed Mickey's and Bugs' screentime and even accounting for the brief shot of Bugs walking down the street, Mickey still has about 1 sec. extra of screen time.
There’s a big clue earlier in the movie, when Eddie kicks over some Dip and the judge hurriedly backs off. If he were human he wouldn’t have to worry about Dip, in fact he even wears rubber gloves when he uses it to erase that shoe.
I mean, I personally wouldn't want a potentially toxic chemical paintkiller mix on my skin either, So I'd say it's easy to see why the gloves easily slip past.
@@undertakernumberone1 makes sense because all the stuff that dip is made from those are the ingredients for paint thinner which may not be as dangerous to humans as it would be to what it is essentially a drawn image but it's still toxic for humans
It's a clue but it's cleverly concealed by the POISON and TOXIC labels on the barrels; so until you learn he's a toon later on, you think he's just being cautious about a poisonous chemical. Really nice touch and attention to detail but hard to notice outside of hindsight.
It still astounds me that they replaced the original actor for Judge Doom, Tim Curry, because he was TOO SCARY! If Christopher Lloyd gave me nightmares, I don't want to know what Tim Curry brought to the role!
But at the same time, too bad though, because several years later, Tim would go onto to work alongside Jessica Rabbit's singing voice Amy Irving in which their characters have a short but super sweet friends-to-lovers progression. Wouldn't THAT have made things interesting. 😆💖
@@leovk5779 Beauty and the Beast: The Tale of the Crimson Flower (1998). An English dub (or, more specifically, English re-write) of a Russian-animated short film from 1952. They played the titular characters in it. You can watch it here on RUclips in fact! 😊
We will never get a movie like Who Framed Roger Rabbit ever again. This still remains one of the most likable stories and is very impressive with its visual effects even over 30 years later!!
And it’s astounding work! Bob Hoskins & the other actors do a terrific job acting with basically invisible characters that were added later; they never wink to the camera with acting beside cartoons
I think the visual effects are in some ways the thing that impresses me the most after all this time because the immersion between live action and animation not only holds up incredibly well but I feel it's something that this film mastered and very few have managed to replicate if at all
Never say never, whatever you do! Never say never, my friend! Edit: just to be clear, I was mostly being silly by quoting some lines from a song by An American Tail.
@@DarkKnightofAnime while we haven't gotten something like roger rabbit, i feel SYFY's HAPPY! Series could be a spiritual darker version of roger rabbit just replace "toon" for "imaginary friend"
One of the things I really like about Jessica Rabbit is that she really does genuinely love Roger. She's not a "snake" when it would have been so easy to make her one. She knows her husband is innocent and is willing to do whatever it takes to prove it, even if it means ruining her own reputation
@@GrieverSSBUYup, the book is VERY different, and MUCH DARKER, if you can believe it. The Toons’ plight as an allegory for racial segregation isn’t just implied, it’s stated outright. Also, the Toons have a lot of complicated laws of physics that deal with how they move, and even how they live and die, IIRC. Honestly, it’s kinda hit-or-miss.
It's actually kind of heartwarming to see Doug step out of his "I can only talk about it if I can shit on it" comfort bubble and actually be willing to talk about films he genuinely enjoys, and even geeking about how much he enjoys it. This was a great episode, and it's nice to see you trying to evolve. 🖖🏾😎💯
He did this about 10 years ago with his Hook review which begins with something along the lines of "Can I make fun of one of my favorite movies? I don't know but I'm sure gonna try!"
@@fjgarcia3 But that's my point. He didn't really make fun of Roger Rabbit. Overall, this was one of his least cynical reviews yet, and I thought it was still hilarious and one of his best, lately. And yes, that's even keeping Malcolm's portrayal in mind. That bit was more about how the character of Roger went practically nowhere, after the film, rather than shitting on the film itself. He really did seem like a character who would have made more frequent appearances, even if just guest starring in Looney Tunes and Disney shorts. THAT would have been cool, but also probably a total legal hassle, and probably why we haven't really seen much of him, now that I think of it... 😅🤷🏾♂️🖖🏾
We are never gonna get anything like this ever again for one reason only: Richard Williams, if you ever saw any setpiece of the Thief and the Cobbler, he had an attention to detail that no other animator had. He was a perfecionist.
Williams attention to detail was to his own detriment though, you can’t exactly keep people finding your project when you keep missing deadlines as much as he was
Not gonna lie, when Judge Doom's real identity as a toon is revealed, I was legit frightened by him. That high pitched voice and the crazy eyes, that is nightmare fuel right there! And what I love about this at the same time is that Eddie is also frightened when he realizes who Doom really is(before Doom talks to him about killing his brother). You see the fear in his facial expression that summarizes the words "My god, that's the guy who killed my brother, and now he is coming for me!"
TBH, even as a kid, Doom’s cartoon eyes weren’t nearly as scary as the image of him being flattened by a steamroller. His frantic screaming, desperate flailing and especially the fact that he looks like a normal, flesh and blood human terrified the hell out of me. It may have been an act, but for all intent and purposes, Doom was *terrified*. And the vision of a human screaming in terror as they’re slowly crushed by a steamroller has traumatized me my whole life.
FUN FACT: Judge Doom was actually the Pistol Packin' Possum. If you watch closely in the shot where Doom shoots Maroon in the back at 23:49, you can see a poster of the Pistol Packin' Possum wearing clothes similar to Doom's while holding a gun that is IDENTICAL to the one Doom shoots with. Plus, the gun in the poster is also pointing right at Maroon. The Pistol Packin' Possum is the ONLY toon through the whole movie to have red eyes, possums have a very high pitched squeal(that would explain Doom's high pitched voice), and all the posters after the Pistol Packin' Possum's were posters of Roger Rabbit movies. Geez, no wonder Doom chose to frame the toon that took the glory away from him. As for Doom's gadgets...look where they were! Toon gadgets all around!
Eddie: "Holy Smokes, you're a TOON!" Doug: "Surprise?!" Eddie: "Not really. Those lame brain DOORDASH and MeUndies ideas could only be cooked up by a TOON."
I feel like if Doug wasn’t paying for studio space, props, wardrobe and a full cast on 1.25M subs, he could afford to cut one ad. Just my two cents, don’t hate me.
I agree i first watched it when I was 8 and I thought it was amazing, went back and watched it after watching this and realised that it holds up better than some modern stuff
@@noggersoswreview601 The Modern stuff doesn't hold up because Hollywood is trying to force an Agenda of Racial and Gender Diversity and Equality down our throats while trying to destroy Racial and Gender Diversity and Equality
@@DuxyVargol whenever a show or movie stops the plot to have a scene of romance or just sex I usually roll my eyes even if the characters involved are straight. Its even worse when they're gay, when that happens Im like get back to the story damn it!
I was 8 when this came out and loved it, but naturally that part scared me quite a bit. I had a book with pictures from the movie and for some reason they put a great big shot of Doom with the red eyes right in the part where the book naturally opened because of the staples. My older sister saved the day by neatly folding some wrapping paper and taping it over the scary pic :)
What's neat about Doom is that if you look back its revealed he was a toon actor for MANY toon villains in stuff including supposedly the Hunter in Bambi. He originally was type cast because of his ability to shape shift. However, from what is learned in comics he WASN'T a bad guy. Just played bad guys. What caused him to quite literally turn evil was a head injury he acquired while on the set of a shoot. Though it was believed he got better the truth was the injury was deeper and it caused him to lose his mind actually thinking he was the villains he played. That is where the created Judge Doom persona came from. His real name was Baron Von Rotten and like Jessica he also closely resembled a human. It is also revealed he was a trailblazer for trying to get toon equal rights in a Toon Actors Guild. He was known as the "Toon With a Thousand Faces" as well. Just a little trivia I found interesting.
I think I saw a poster that had an evil looking rodent type cartoon like the weasels, and had a mafioso type style and was holding a pistol that had a ridiculously long berall just like the one that tried to kill Eddie. We see the poster in the office of the guy running the studios, right in the back is where it was, that might have been another character "Doom" played. But I always thought that he really was that rodent toon who wanted more rolls so he kept chopping off his body to fit other rolls, and kept chopping and chopping until nothing of who he was is even left, just toon parts stitched together around a mind with so much hate, jealousy, and distaste for all those big shot toons. Atleast that's how I saw it trying to figure out who he was when I watched it as a kid growing up.
@@CharizardMaster69 The character actor Lon Chaney who was called "The Man of A Thousand Faces". Coincidently, a character he played in one of his earlier pre-1920s roles was a villain that looked so much like Judge Doom...Only difference was the long hair and top hat instead of a bald head and fedora.
The cocaine habit and his stint in rehab prevented Mickey from starring in Spacejam as the referee. Either that or Disney went back on their gentleman's agreement that allowed them to use the Warner Brothers cartoon characters in this movie.
There is a Disney+ Series called "Prop Culture" where we see but also reveal how some prop effects work in some movies. Episode 7 was all about Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Recommend it.
@@metazoxan2 Pretty soon with the death of Blu-Rays and Cable Channels that will become the only way (or one of the very few ways) to enjoy and support contemporary content legally from movies to series people might enjoy. Now there are many understandable reasons not to subscribe to any (or limited number of) streaming service(s), wait to subscribe, or cancel if you have. But after taking into account certain factors and making a choice if there are a couple of series, content, or other only offered in a certain streaming service than that's going to be the only way till other legal supportive measures are open. I'm might type about a certain series or episodes at times figuring maybe not now but some people might pay for the access maybe 5 years or more down the line. If so then what I can recommend or found interesting which in turn they might also find interesting to check out when that road opens to them. Also based on a recent twitter post from Creator Dana Terrace who wrote: "Seriously the BEST BEST BEST way to support the show" (this case The Owl House) "is watching it on D+." This has me believe that if you become a fan of a certain show and want to support the team making it then watching such shows on the corresponding Streaming Service has become far more vital now vs how it was in the past.
When I was younger and first saw this film, I was legit shook when he got flattened, but then *sat up* while still flattened. Yeah, the shoe was scarring, and his toon reveal was wild, but flattened cartoon sitting up was freaking unnerving!
This movie should legit be classified as a thriller due to so many unnerving scenes. My folks sold me on this film as it being a funny film based solely on the picture on a video tape case.
The scene when Roger said ' Sometimes in life it's the only weapon we have' is so powerful because it shows Roger isn't just a cartoon that's a job he's more aware than that. I wish there were more scenes of him showing this side.
"That's it, Doom. Give me another excuse to pump you full of lead! So you thought you could get away with it, didn't you? Ha! We toons may act idiotic, but we're not stupid. We demand justice. Why, the real meaning of the word probably hits you like a ton of bricks." And then he gets hit with a literal ton of bricks.
@@Kiku91 But Lt. Santino says that only dip can kill a toon and the only toons we see in the film who laugh to death are evil toons who only laugh at the expense of others. I think it foreshadowed that laughter triumphed over evil (Judge Doom was thwarted by toon props that set his demise in motion)
@@doctorspindash2.086 Look up the "Roger Rabbit Effect" on TV Tropes and Idioms. In Japan, although I've seen it once a long time ago on the Cartoon Network, watch the "Twilight of the Cockroaches". First Japanese attempt at live-action/animation fusion dancing.
Approval of God: Gary Wolf, author of the book the movie is *kind of based on,* loved the movie, in fact he liked it so much that *he wrote a sequel to the original book more or less retconning the first and making the books closer to the movie.*
Ah yes, I heard about that. They retconned it so the book (titled Who Censored Roger Rabbit) was a dream I think Jessica had. That's how good the movie is.
@@wariodude128 so Jessica dreamt that she was a selfish bitch who was essentially raped by her husband and said husband died horribly after committing a terrible crime? What the hell is going on in this woman’s subconscious to dream up that shit?
Fun Fact: Judge Doom's real name is Baron Von Rotten. He was an actor who played villains in movies, until an accident caused him to believe that he was a villain.
For as relatively small and simple as it is, I think I like him the best as The Woodsman, second only to Doc Brown. I mean, sure, he's great here-- but EVERYTHING'S great here, and the best parts with him are when he doesn't even look or sound like himself.
@@devinpaul9026 i got to check that out. But he's also got Clue, Sin City 2, Wit, One Flew over the Cuckos Nest, Addams Family . and he was Def one of the best Star Trek Villains
@@crakatoot5480 Over The Garden Wall, it's called-- he's a woodsman. I'll say no more on that other than no matter what you think of the whole thing, you have to watch HIS whole story-- it's probably one of the best things-- or even THE best thing-- in the entire miniseries. And that's saying something in MY opinion.
In later years, I've found it fascinating that there's a definite detective angle in Roger Rabbit, but it's a meta one: Eddie isn't a very good detective, but if you're a viewer with a keen eye on you you'll notice that there are a lot of really subtle implications in the movie that Judge Doom is actually a character seen on a poster in Maroon's office (23:33) named Pistol Packin' Possum.
I always thought the whole "humans only" thing was for the human's safety. Cartoon characters can be crazy and are effectively immortal (until the development of dip). The "magic satchel" alone is terrifying when you think about it. What are the limits of what can be pulled out? In fact, Why aren't the toons the ones running everything?
Yeah, that is why the allegory doesn't work 100%. Fear of skin color is inherently crazy because a different skin tone doesn't provide extra power or abilities but Toons are basically unstoppable. It is pretty understandable why a human would fear them.
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 And stereotypes are low resolution collections of data that prove to be true more often than people who say "those are stereotypes" would be comfortable with. Look up the studies done on stereotype accuracy and be amazed. But to OP's point: it's the same reason the race analogy doesn't work with the X-Men. Like, if you have a whole variant of humans who can level city blocks after puberty with their laser eyes or magma breath or literally iron bodies, non-mutant humans have every rational right to be afraid of those people. Especially since people, being people, are going to have both good and bad people in any group and a bad mutant is basically a super-powered spree killer or terrorist on steroids. There would absolutely be prejudice against mutants, and it would be absolutely justified.
Not gonna lie, the scene where Judge Doom is revealed to be a toon, while yes I was a kid who was terrified of this scene, I can officially say now, as an adult, I find it extremely badass. I miss you 80's PG rating...
Back then I didn't mind the eyes of doom but now I'm bothered but it's still an amazing movie with no exception compared to some of the things people are making now
I mean 80's PG rating still exists, just look at Rango. The problem is nobody really pushes the boundaries of PG, nobody really goes this far from even though they totally can
11:25 THANK YOU for highlighting that scene! I just re-watched this movie last night & was wowed by the seamless camera work + non verbal storytelling 👏🏾😭🎬
Something cool I learned years later was that the Dip is supposed to be representing the solution used to wipe animation cels clean so that they could be recycled for new shows.
To Cherrie and Chaos, you are both correct. The concoction is literally a mix of nonpolar solvents, specifically turpentine and acetone and benzine. I work in a plastics manufacturing factory, one part of which prints graphics for Heluva Good and Cool Whip onto the blank cups. Generally, each machine has a number of ink wells. Each ink-well feeds ink onto a plate, which places the image onto a thing called a 'blanket' which acts like the soft part of a stamp, and then the machine "stamps" the image from the blanket onto the blank stock. When cleaning the ink off of machine parts, the metal plates which contain the image(s) making the graphic, the stamp-like "blankets" that press the image onto the plastic cups, or nearly anything else that gets paint on it, our singular solvent is acetone. This includes cleaning the plastic "sleeves" that are put onto the plates after they are taken off the machine (since without the sleeves the edges of the plates can slice you if you are a klutz like me). ---- The ink used is not that different from the paint you would use to paint your house or do an arts-and-crafts project with. The biggest problem to raw acetone is that it's really frickin' flammable. So in a hot enclosed office, you would likely want something less-flammable as well. Like turpentine.
Honestly i think the reason Jessica's line of "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Is so remembered because it's an inpactful line. Jessica uses it to describe herself that she isn't a bad person because of her appearance as that was something she was basically born into having. It could've been another clever and subtle comparison to the racism of the time and the oversexualition and fetishism of black women as a whole.
Yeah that line makes all the r34 of her seem a bit... Rude to the point of the character but at the same time I don't really blame people to an extent it's... Odd in my mind for some reason.
@@metageek7878 well the line is even better here, in a way, by essentially saying that despite how you make me look that's not my personality and it shouldn't be treated as such
In the late 80s and early 90s, Roger had a very prominent presence in the Disney theme parks, practically being treated as the sixth member of the Fab Five in stage shows like "Mickey's Nutcracker."
I honestly thought it was a really cool detail that even though he hated Toons, Eddy still had respect for Betty Boop, possibly due to the fact that he watched her cartoons a lot before his brother died.
I grew up watching this movie, but that shoe death scene was breaking my heart each time, especially since it was so friendly towards Doom, like a little puppy. I will never get over this lil boy's death. RIP lil shoe
Yeah, I always feel sorry for that shoe, even if it was a brief scene. I love Doug, but I don't know how he can laugh at a scene where an innocent shoe who did absolutely nothing is suddenly brutally killed and crying out in pain. I know it's just a cartoon, but we still feel something from that scene and it's very unpleasant to say the least.
One of the things I love about this film is that for toons what dictates how great/desirable you are is comedic effect, not physical appeeal. Boop says Jessica is lucky for marrying Roger, because Roger is supremely funny.
I was introduced to Nostalgia Critic by a friend who showed me his reviews of some truly horrible movies, which, let's face it, is pretty much what all review channels are about, so it's fascinating to see him - or anyone, for that matter - talk positively about something he genuinely loves. We need more of this on the internet - it might not be as funny, but it's really heartening and uplifting.
I love this movie! The scariest part was when Judge Doom reveals himself to be a toon! Those red eyes and that high pitched voice really frightened me! But I am glad that Eddie got to confront his brother's killer because defeating Judge Doom gave him the closure he needed to get back his sense of humor and move on with his life.
The one thing I find stupid now after all these years is how Eddie didn’t realize that possibly the toon who killed Marvin acme was also the one who killed his brother, he was killed the same way his brother was and usually when there are 2 victims killed the same it’s usually the same person
Couple things could factor into that. 1. It was a traumatic moment in his life so it’s not a memory he wants to think about. Just looking at a picture of his brother was enough to make him chug a bottle of liquor until he passed out so I can imagine he would try and block out the actual memory as best he can. 2. He doesn’t involve himself with toons anymore and especially not at that point. All he did was take some pictures so to him it’s not really his problem.
tbf though, dropping something heavy on someone's head is like, cartoon cliché 101, it's why Eddie doesn't even question it - although I'm sure being boozed up didn't help that either come to think of it but still
I forget where I heard it, but there's a theory out there that explains another reason Jessica is so smitten with Roger and why Betty Boop and other toons all consider her lucky to have him--namely, toons are valued in both human society *and* toon society (and possibly only even EXIST in general) based around their ability to make people laugh. Roger is a literal up-and-coming film star of the silver screen who also embodies this core principle of toon-dom (who's still humble enough to recognize and praise true toon genius, like Goofy), but his entire design is centered around making people laugh. Jessica's design is not. She doesn't make people laugh. She makes them swoon, or awed, or horny, or what have you, but at the end of the day she doesn't bring the kind of belly laughs that toons value or place their personal worth on. She's not a bad person underneath it all, but she's "drawn that way", which theoretically limits her ability to get ahead in toon society, especially when contrasted with literally every other toon we see in the film, anthropomorphized or otherwise. While humans find her absolutely breathtaking and can't conceive how someone like her is with someone like Roger Rabbit, for toons, it's exactly the opposite--it blows their mind that a girl like HER, who basically occupies the lowest standing in toon society, somehow managed to land HIM. It's almost a 'Pretty Woman' scenario--which, coincidentally, is *also* owned by Disney and would be released just two years later.
@@motor4X4kombat Though there is no official record kept by the Guinness Book of World Records, there have been instances of people going over an hour without blinking. But yes, that is a good counterargument. There's probably some mention in the B.T.S.
@@motor4X4kombat It's a fun fact that I've heard about the film over time. It was one of the many things they did to make Judge Doom more menacing. Even with the sunglasses he wears, you can still see his eyes. Here's what Christopher Lloyd said about it: "I just felt a toon doesn’t have to blink their eyes to remoisten their eyeballs. They’re not human, so I just felt Judge Doom should never blink. It makes him even more ominous, more scary, if he’s just looking like that. It wasn’t really difficult, I’d just keep my eyes open as long as I could, try to time it out with the next take and all that. It was cool. I just like to find little things that make him even more evil, and that was that." Link to the section of the Wikipedia page where I sourced this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Doom#Casting
It specifically had to be Bugs to give Eddie the tire as well, as Disney said Mickey would “never do something that mean.” If social media existed back than, it would be a big debate, like would Batman go down or not today.
@@stevenhedge2850 I agree. We’ve seen Bugs pull stunts like that on Elmer, Sam and Daffy time and time again so it wasn’t out fo character for him. He is a stinker.
I did think Mickey was somewhat out of character to even indirectly be part of that prank. Makes one wonder if the good and wholesome Mickey known from cartoons and (especially) comics is just a part he's playing, whereas the real Mickey is more gray.
I saw this movie for the first time when it came out on DVD back in 03-04ish. My parents brought it home and I knew nothing about this movie but I loved the hell out of it. I remember watching it at least four or five times within that week over and over again. The fact that I enjoyed it years later proves that this movie truly stands the test of time and should continue to be passed down to each generation
He’s clearly a good actor. He always deserved an Oscar bait role. I bet he would knock it out of the park. I guess the closest he ever got was cuckoos nest.
It was hilarious when Hoskins (eddie valliant) recounted a story about his kid being pissed off about working with great stars like roger rabbit and not bringing any of them to dinner to meet the kid.
I can honestly say that the Judge Doom reveal never terrified me as a kid. Don’t get me wrong I can empathize with Doug here. He looks like this genuinely traumatIzed him and now he’s gotten to the point where he can poke fun at it. I was almost 2 years old when this was released, and didn’t see this until I was between the ages of 8-10 years old. And the only thing that went through my mind was “ what kind of toon is he supposed to be?” I personally think that I have The Simpsons to thank for my lack of trauma. I’m in no way invalidating anyone who grew up during The Simpsons golden era and was still terrified of this moment. But The Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror specials genuinely scared me yet ended on hilarious and silly notes. As if I was being subliminally told not to take this so seriously. So I wasn’t able to take Doom seriously enough to be terrified because I knew he would be defeated in the end. But again I can definitely see how this scene is the ultimate nightmare fuel. Especially in a pre Simpson era.
One of the great unsung heroes of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is Richard Williams. Richard and his team were the animators responsible for animated the toon characters in the film. Richard's infamous perfectionism and insistence on animated on the ones (meaning one frame of animation for every standard frame of life-action film, for 24 frames of animation every second, whereas most animation, whether feature film, short film, or animated television series, animate on twos (one animated frame for every 2 traditional frames of film, for a frame rate of 12 per second), threes (one animated frame for 3 frames of film, meaning 8 frames per second), or even on fours (one animated frame per four frames of film, rendering a very low, choppy 6 frames of animation per second); was crucial to make the toons believable in a live-action setting.
@@OGPUEE What ? Like: - Warner Bros. - MGM - Fleischer Studios - Paramount Pictures/Famous Studios - Universal/Walter Lantz - Felix the Cat Creations Inc. - Western Publishing ( Little Lulu Only ) - DC Comics ( Fleischer Superman Only ) - Jay Ward Productions - Harvey Comics - Columbia Pictures - Hanna-Barbera Cartoons ( With The Exceptions of Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuffs, Cow and Chicken, I Am Weasel, Moxy and What A Cartoon Show. ) - UPA - Terrytoons - Embassy Pictures ( Tubby the Tuba Only ) - Nickelodeon ( SpongeBob SquarePants Only ) - Don Bluth - HIT Entertainment ( Pingu Only ) - Studio MDHR ( Cuphead Only ) - DreamWorks ( Toonsylvania Only ) - Funnybone Interactive ( Stay Tooned ! Only ) - DIC ( Wacky World of Tex Avery and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Only ) - Van Beuren Studios - 20th Century Fox Animation ( FernGully Only ) - DePatie-Freleng - United Artists - Hal Seeger Productions - TheMeatly ( Bendy and the Ink Machine Only ) - Republic Pictures - New Line Cinema ( The Swan Princess Only ) And Various Others ?!
One of the most underrated funny moments is when Eddie walks outside of RK Maroon's office after taking the case, and we see a bunch of cartoon cows reading scripts, saying "MOOOOOOOO"... 🤣
Agreed! And if we could not get more of Roger, Charles Fleischer should have at least had a more prolific voice acting career because he was perfect. He captured all of Roger's goofy toony essence while humanizing him at the same time.
My brother and I were so traumatized when the shoe got dipped that our parents had to turn the movie off. We didn't watch the whole thing until years later :'D
I actually instead of being horrified, got misty eyed when I saw "The Scene". It wasn't so much scary for me as a kid as it was sad. Because even as a child I responded more to the confrontation of the source of Eddie's sadness and trauma. The death of his brother ruined his life, it stole the joy from him. In a lot of ways Doom killed more than just a person on that day. And something about it still brings tears to my eyes even to this day.
28:11 Good god I've never imagined that Christopher Lloyd would be this.... *TERRIFYING* Imagine him being casted on a Horror Movie as a Psychopath and makes that face.....
This movie is a masterpiece. We talked about it and referenced it all the time back when it came out. It's still iconic. I think it's made much more of a lasting impression than people realize.
"When I reviewed Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I LOOKED JUST. LIKE. THHIIIISS!" (Pretty sure someone already made that joke, but screw it I'm doing it again because it makes me laugh 😏).
Here's the weird thing as a kid I was able to watch that whole movie without any problems it was only as I got towards my adult life that I watched it again and found Doom absolutely terrifying I guess I'm not the only one it's one of the most terrifying and unsettling things and even just thinking about it still sends a chill up my spine
Fun fact, Judge Doom also never really blinks or shows breathing in the still shots, he is always just standing there, menacingly. Also in one of the early versions of the script, Judge Doom was the hunter that killed bambi's mom, so Roger having an Uncle "thumper" seems on point.
Kathleen is a producer. She's good at connecting people and making business arrangements to ensure that films get funding and the resources they need to be made. She shouldn't have any creative control, she shouldn't get to make the final call on writers. She got insanely lucky earlier on in her career and got to come up alongside some of the greatest creatives of her time, but when she's the one in charge... you're in serious trouble.
I love how Brits can successfully pull of American accents, to the point where many of us often aren't aware they're British, but you rarely, IF EVER, see Americans successfully pulling off British accents.
“Oh look piggies” Hi tweety” “This little piggy went to market, this little piggy stayed home, this little piggy had roast beef” “Aahhhh” “Uh oh ran out of piggies” One of my favorite parts of the movie it always makes me laugh besides the opening. I also love roger in the movie and how patty cake is the equivalent of cheating
@@Kanikug I actually like the "pity" thing more, cause it sounds like Tweety was thinking about saving him, but then decided "nah, I deal with enough. This guy can fall, who's gonna care?"
I love Gargoyles it was different from everything else at the time it was dark it was cool it made me interested in Scotland actually of its culture and its language and clothing that in medieval times were like back then
THIS MOVIE IS A M A Z I N G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree
Can you review The Little Vampire?
Totally Agree!
Hey can you review diary of a wimpy kid (2010)
Very much agree with you there.
There's actually something really interesting implied by Betty Boop's line of Jessica being the lucky one in her and Roger's relationship. Valiant, the other humans in the film, and even the male viewers, see Jessica as a sex symbol, a hot icon. Hence Valiant's line of "SHE'S married to Roger Rabbit?" As in, she's too good for him. But from the toon perspective, Jessica is the nobody because she's not funny. Fascinatingly different perspectives.
They did give her some funny bits in the comic. They gave her a nemesis, completely unknown to her. The character keeps trying to destroy Jessica out of jealousy, and Jessica keeps sailing through the traps, unaware she's even in danger!
Rogers inability to squeeze out of the cuffs until it was funny shows the utility of his power, and how physics operates differently for toons. Excellent point you made.
Oh its that he’s funny, I thought it was something else?
@@williammeyer2584 - I think we all kinda thought that.
@@williammeyer2584 It's really showcased in how she responds when Eddie asks what she sees in Roger. "He makes me laugh." So simple, yet for a toon, that's everything.
Rodger and Jessica’s relationship actually kinda works when you really look at it. Jessica is an obvious sex symbol that most men would want, but Rodger loves her more than just her figure. The “make me laugh” line makes sense because he truly just wants to make her laugh. She admires his innocents and passion. Betty Boop says that Jessica is the lucky one because from the toons side Rodger is technically a famous actor.
*in my Beavis and Butt-Head voice*
"You said ROD..."
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Yeah man, they’re cute af together.
Nostalgia Critic actually talks about this in his Top 11 Strangest Yet Best Couples list!
Women who can have their pick of any man also frequently go for a funny guy over all else in real life, too.
As a female, I can say one of the biggest things we find attractive is the ability to make us laugh.
Fun fact:
The three ingredients listed to make The Dip (turpentine, acetone, and benzine) are all paint thinners, which is used to erase mistakes in drawn animation.
That actually adds so much knowing that.
I've seen many say you can tell Doom was a Toon because he was wearing gloves when many don't understand the stuff in the dip is also toxic to humans.
@@charliemartin-k7m right? You're looking at minor chemical burns, blisters, and skin so dry, cracked cement looks moisturized.
Cool!😃
Thanks for the info
No wonder I was reminded of Epic Mickey.
27:59 Apparently there was a version of the script where Doom's true Toon identity is revealed (he turns out to be the hunter who shot Bambi's mother) but that got binned.
Also there were plans for a prequel set during World War 2 where Roger would join a "Toon Platoon" (who, in keeping with the "toons are a minority" thing, wouldn't be given the same respect as non-toon soldiers), fight Fifth Columnists, rescue his future wife Jessica from being forced to make pro-Nazi cartoons and at the end discover that he's Bugs Bunny's illegitimate son. Pity this never got made, it could've been fantastic.
One of the other comments is saying Doom might be a toon called the "Pistol Packing Possum" in the final version. You can see his poster at 23:50 as Maroon gets shot.
The outfit and gun are similar to Doom's and the Possum is the only other toon with red eyes. In fact the Possum's gun is pointing right at Maroon. Combine that with the fact that possums have a squeaky voice, and it matches Doom pretty perfectly.
Never heard about the prequel script, where did you hear about it?
@@ismellmandude6401 It's on the film's Wikipedia page
Speilberg was tired of making Nazi movies by that point
Fun fact: Bob Hoskin’s son, who was six at the time, didn’t speak to him for two weeks because he was mad at his dad, thinking he actually worked with Bugs Bunny and didn’t bring him to meet him. So cute.
😂 😂 😂 Omds.. Is that Really true??
I'm crying tears of joy over here lol
@@RantRadio edited for facts. Bob Hoskins said in an interview his son didn’t speak to him for two weeks because he thought he got to work with cartoon characters and didn’t let him meet them.
Still really cute, especially from a kid.
Another fun fact Eddie Murphy said on " Inside the actors studio " that he turned down the role of Eddie Valient which he later regretted.
@@winterlynn9012 honestly i think that's for the best cause as much as I love Eddie Murphy I think Hoskins brought a genuine and real emotion to the role and I'm not saying he can't do emotion but there was just a real sympathy and vulnerability to Hoskins that I don't think Murphy could duplicate
@@DarkKnightofAnime well said. Hoskins OWNED this role and while it is great to think of Charlie Fleischer running around in a rabbit costume, to think Hoskins acted so well by himself and at an X on a wall or something at times it's even better.
Also, Lloyd doesn't blink in the whole movie. Apparently he thought that would make him more unsettling. It worked.
And given that his eyes are fake, it works even better!
To be fair, how often do cartoons blink on this movie?
Fun fact: The script directed him not to blink. When he read that notation he exclaimed "He's a toon isn't he?!" guessing the movie's twist from that note alone.
@@SquishyProductions He read that he shouldn't blink, and came to the immedate conclusion that a cartoon character passing as human would naturally wear fake eyes.
I don't know whether to love the guy a little more... or be slightly afraid of him.
@@SquishyProductions XD nice.
I think one of the most underrated moments is when Eddie says to Betty, "Yeah. You still got it." He's smiling as he says it. It's the first time we see him truly smile in the whole movie. It shows that even though he may hate toons in general he still has affection for Betty. It's another great bit of character beat that adds to Eddie.
And yet the smile has a bit force into it. His current toon bias is there cause of what happened to his brother, but he’s pushing it aside for Betty’s sake.
@@StrickenRecord That's a good point. It showed that for her he's willing to do that. This movie is so much fun to talk about.
It might be because he grew up watching her cartoons since she is an older cartoon character within the movie. So he might have a soft spot for her cause of his childhood.
@@さくら-l8t It could be. It's possible since she's an older cartoon that Eddie watched her with his brother and father. That sort of nostalgia could be another reason why he has a soft spot for Betty.
@Nathan Jereb It's probably related to silent movies star losing their jobs when movies got sound, because they didn't sound good.
22:04 The reason Judge Doom and the Weasels don't react to the "Shave and a Haircut" trick is because it wouldn't be funny for them to do it. It's why Roger can't get out of the cuffs until it's funny. For Roger, him bursting through the walls and outing himself only for a punchline is so ridiculous that it's torture for him not to do it. For the Judge and Weasels, it's not funny and so they don't feel the urge to act.
That makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
According to Wikipedia, this movie is a big part of the reason that the Disney Renaissance came to be. If so, then you can say that it DID jumpstart a new evolution in film.
That IS true. But it stands out as a one-of-a-kind motion picture on its own (aside from its Disney roots) as well.
Sideways made a video about this film made people interested in animation again, which paved the way for Little Mermaid to exist
It also began a whole new love and appreciation for animation since the 1940s when it was the Golden Age of Animation. In the late 80s and 90s, not only was Disney the biggest with their animation studios, but other companies brought in a new wave of animated movies and TV shows, many of which are still talked about today.
Seriously?!?!??!?! WHOAAAAA!!!! That's awesome!!!!!
@@TGwA1993 I insisted on watching The Little Mermaid every day for a year. I was really little, about 3 years old, I think. XD I used to know the entire movie by heart.
Fun Fact: While Mickey has a few more seconds of screen time in the falling scene, he and Bugs still have the exact same amount of screen time because they both show up at the end of the film, and Bugs gets just a few more seconds than Mickey does. They actually do it subtly by using Bugs' height to their advantage.
Another fun fact: Earlier when Eddie enters the bathroom only to find out there's no floor underneath him. If you look on the wall where it says, "For a good time, call Allyson Wonderland...", in the VHS release, below that phrase is listed a phone number. Apparently it was real and would ring up the phone line at then Walt Disney CEO Michael Eisner's office. The animators had a little fun with that, I'll bet. It was changed for the DVD release and later to be the phrase you now see.
@@minty_Joe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mickey the king of Disney, and Bugs Bunny the king of Warner Brothers.
And Shrek being the king of Dreamworks.
Imagine if Oswald was still Disney's mascot. If he made in the scene with bugs this would match with the Daffy and Donald scene.
Bugs is also seen walking into somewhere during another part. Mickey isn't
Jessica Rabbit's line
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" is not odd for being iconic.
If anything, that line sums up Jessica's character perfectly.
On top great pun with her being a literally *drawn* toon, but as a mysterious bombshell woman, she can be easily mistaken to be a conniving sleaze or a floozy by how she's approached or her design alone. When in reality, she's actually a very wholesome and honest person who adores her husband despite her character role and physical appearance saying otherwise. So even though she isn't bad, she's *drawn* to seem that way to others.
That somehow reminded me of Miranda Lawson in ME2, she was made to be cold, b-word-y, sexualised and "perfect" her whole life, but deep inside she has phychological traumas, a will to protect her sister...and wardrobe full of very tight-to-skin outfits which are somehow useful not only in a battlefield (thanks to kinetic barriers) but even on different planets and a vacuum (And she doesn't even wear a helmet)
It also ties in with the allegory to racism the video mentions. People have preconceived notions of her based solely on how she looks instead of getting to know what’s inside.
You are right about the “bad” part, since in early drafts,Jessica was INDEED the killer.
Also, it’s in the original book too
Jessica: Why thank you.
The shoe scene is heartbreaking, it's like watching someone drown a puppy.
Nah its pretty funny
Agreed. That was a pretty disturbing scene, possibly because by the time I saw it, I was an adult and well aware of what was happening. 😕
@@asherikamichaela8425 I was only 6 when I first saw it and had been to a few funerals by then and also idiotically grabbed a glowing red hot stove element twice a few years earlier (which I remember still being fresh in my mind at the time) so I had a pretty good grasp (pun intended) of what was happening which made me feel sick to the stomach and want to cry. Still loved the film though.
@@Norhmitch8 It only 4/10 funny
I heard it was originally supposed to be a toon gophers instead of a toon shoe. The gopher was also supposed to be able to talk and have some pretty horrific final words and scream as it was dipped.
"I have to find my darling husband....I'm so worried about him" "Seriously!?......What do you see in that guy?!?!......" "he makes me laugh." - One of the greatest, most perfectly delivered lines in film history. That one line sums up how well the people who made this movie understand what makes cartoons so great.
And a lot of relationships in general ;)
Why Roger Rabbit isn't a well known character:
Throughout the late 80s and early 90s, Disney made a push to turn Roger Rabbit into their next big character, with him prominently appearing in theatrical shorts, television specials, comics and he had a notable presence in the Disney parks. *However, this ended as Disney ran into issues with Steven Spielberg and Amblin Entertainment, who co-owned the the film's characters and had to approve any new production that featured them. Additionally, the emerging Disney Renaissance meant that the company had a slew of new and popular characters that they could promote instead.*
Ok you clearly copy and pasted that but A for effort!
So when is the Live Action Remake of this video?
You know Disney would do such a thing. Roger becomes an children's entertainer by wearing a bunny costume all the time.
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For future generations to know.
A for effort
@@averymerrick Your right
Fun fact: the scene with Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse: Disney was the one who said that Bugs should deliver the punchline about the spare tire because they think it makes more sense.
And... It does. You gotta give Disney credit.
The way Mickey just says, "Aw, poor fella. Ha-Ha!" with that iconic Mickey laugh made me half to pause the video just to laugh. It's like that entire South Park episode where Mickey beats up the Jonas Brothers and laughs the whole time, condensed into 1 line.
Wait, did they actually think Mickey Mouse would've gave him the spare tire? I mean, I expected Bugs to troll him like that, but not Mickey.
@@aaendi6661 I think it's moreso they thought Disney would've wanted to secure the punchline of a joke.
I just wonder was the line when Mickey point to Bugs Bunny and say "Bugs does" maybe a meta joke
My theory for why Doom and the weasels didn't react to "Shave and a Haircut": The weasels were probably covering their ears to block it out. As for Judge Doom, it's possible he spent years training himself to resist the behaviors of toons to appear more human, thus subjecting himself to the song over and over until he was able to build up enough willpower to fight off his natural tune urges.
I agree with the weasels bit, but for Doom, I think it's because he's the one starting it or he's finishing it mentally in his head.
My theory is that, well, Doom WASN'T able to resist the Shave and a Haircut trick. It's just that he didn't _respond_ to it, he just set it up. Ergo, he couldn't resist using it to flush out Roger.
@@GrahamChapman for one, Comedy trumps all for toons. Judge Doom finishing it (or even the Hyenas finishing it) wouldn't be funny. THe gag that's getting set up is Roger crashing through the wall.
Also: yes, one can interprete the fact that Doom starts mouthing along with the tune (despite his voice at that sound level probably not penetrating the wall) as him not being above it after all.
@@undertakernumberone1 Correction: Weasels, not Hyenas... And yes, basically this. Doom wasn't able to resist setting up the gag, and he even started mumbling "shave and a haircut" just before Roger reached his breaking point, but finishing the gag himself just wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective -- and since Toons are all about narrative rules, (primarily comedic ones, but Doom ticks off a lot of dramatic ones as well,) he simply didn't feel the compulsion to finish the gag... You actually _could_ argue that it would've been hilarious if one of the Weasels had finished the gag, but since Roger was present, and the gag revolved around flushing him out, it once again wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective to diffuse the situation with one of the Weasels breaking out "TWO BITS!"
It might have worked better if we were shown the weasels possibly mouthing the two bits and visibly struggling with it. I always figured Doom could resist it because he was doing the call, not the response and thus wasn't required to be the one to finish it.
This movie is just so brilliant. I love how Jessica is portrayed as beautiful and smart. She also loves her husband, who loves her dearly in return.
It would have been so easy to easy to made her a bimbo, but making her a femme fatale was the better choice
YES and a line at the beginning where Roger's boss accuses him of not seeing Jessica correctly "he thinks she's Martha Stewart" really says something because near the end when she said she'd bake him a carrot cake when they got home it made me wonder if Roger was the one who saw her for who she was/the way she wanted to be seen, as a loving caring wife 🥰
Actually The scene of Eddie pouring out his whiskey was less of a message and more of a million themes and ideas all at once moment. It's him facing his past. Finally letting go of his bitterness. Getting rid of the crutch he's been using for years, rejecting what he's become and recapturing who he was. Basically. IT's every kind of Facing his demons moment possible.
I'm sure he recognizes the meaning behind it, he was just being a hyperbolic smartass.
A classic scene.
I like that he is finally letting go of his past and embracing the future.
The Jessica "lookalike" is Lena the Hyena, "the world's ugliest woman", from the comic strip Li'l Abner. It was a running gag that she was so ugly, her face was always covered up by an editorial note explaining that the note was there to protect the readers. Eventually, there was a contest for readers to submit their own designs for Lena, which was won by the phenomenal artist, Basil Wolverton.
Oh, I didn't know she was from anything. Cool. :-)
As cool as this would be, Lena Hyena (without the "the") from Roger Rabbit is just a seperate character. That being said, due to the identical names and similar characteristics, it would stand to reason that the Roger Rabbit character was inspired by the Lil' Abner character.
@@JoeContext That's interesting. Got a source for that?
Just looked up Mr Wolverton, and yeah that does look like something a guy who worked on MAD Magazine would make.
@@b3rz3rk3r9 that guy did those magazines? Man, cartoons are more incredible than I already thought.
The reason Mickey shows up a few seconds earlier, as far as I can tell, is likely because there's a shot earlier in the film that shows Bugs walking down the street by himself, so Mickey showing up earlier in the skydiving scene is likely to balance that out.
A fair assumption, however the rabbit seen when Eddie is walking through the studio lot is actually Happy Rabbit, Bugs' prototype.
@@zbr76 you sure about that? I’m looking at the shot from the beginning and that’s very clearly a gray and white rabbit with white gloves, obviously Bugs, and not the prototype, which was pure white with no gloves.
@@charliemacsart Perhaps the WFRR animators updated it to look like Bugs, but it definitely has more in common with the prototype's leaner design.
@@zbr76 It looks identical to the Bugs design used for every other scene in the movie, but if it makes you happy to imagine that it's not Bugs then more power to ya.
Someone on RUclips actually timed Mickey's and Bugs' screentime and even accounting for the brief shot of Bugs walking down the street, Mickey still has about 1 sec. extra of screen time.
There’s a big clue earlier in the movie, when Eddie kicks over some Dip and the judge hurriedly backs off. If he were human he wouldn’t have to worry about Dip, in fact he even wears rubber gloves when he uses it to erase that shoe.
I mean, I personally wouldn't want a potentially toxic chemical paintkiller mix on my skin either, So I'd say it's easy to see why the gloves easily slip past.
@@undertakernumberone1 makes sense because all the stuff that dip is made from those are the ingredients for paint thinner which may not be as dangerous to humans as it would be to what it is essentially a drawn image but it's still toxic for humans
Even if he WAS human, he'd still do that.
It's a clue but it's cleverly concealed by the POISON and TOXIC labels on the barrels; so until you learn he's a toon later on, you think he's just being cautious about a poisonous chemical. Really nice touch and attention to detail but hard to notice outside of hindsight.
@@aircraftcarrierwo-class yet later Eddie walks on it with no issue
It still astounds me that they replaced the original actor for Judge Doom, Tim Curry, because he was TOO SCARY! If Christopher Lloyd gave me nightmares, I don't want to know what Tim Curry brought to the role!
But at the same time, too bad though, because several years later, Tim would go onto to work alongside Jessica Rabbit's singing voice Amy Irving in which their characters have a short but super sweet friends-to-lovers progression. Wouldn't THAT have made things interesting. 😆💖
They thought he was too scary when Christopher Lloyd created one of the biggest nightmare fuel scenes ever.
@@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose What work is that?
edit: nevermind, I found it, you were speaking of Ferngully: the last rainforest right?
@@leovk5779 Beauty and the Beast: The Tale of the Crimson Flower (1998). An English dub (or, more specifically, English re-write) of a Russian-animated short film from 1952. They played the titular characters in it. You can watch it here on RUclips in fact! 😊
I wonder how it would've compared to his portrayal of Pennywise in the first IT adaptation.
We will never get a movie like Who Framed Roger Rabbit ever again. This still remains one of the most likable stories and is very impressive with its visual effects even over 30 years later!!
And it’s astounding work! Bob Hoskins & the other actors do a terrific job acting with basically invisible characters that were added later; they never wink to the camera with acting beside cartoons
I think the visual effects are in some ways the thing that impresses me the most after all this time because the immersion between live action and animation not only holds up incredibly well but I feel it's something that this film mastered and very few have managed to replicate if at all
Never say never, whatever you do!
Never say never, my friend!
Edit: just to be clear, I was mostly being silly by quoting some lines from a song by An American Tail.
Hollyweird would never give us a classic such as Roger Rabbit.
@@DarkKnightofAnime while we haven't gotten something like roger rabbit, i feel SYFY's HAPPY! Series could be a spiritual darker version of roger rabbit
just replace "toon" for "imaginary friend"
One of the things I really like about Jessica Rabbit is that she really does genuinely love Roger. She's not a "snake" when it would have been so easy to make her one. She knows her husband is innocent and is willing to do whatever it takes to prove it, even if it means ruining her own reputation
in the book, she's the opposite
@@holdingpattern245 wait, book?
@@GrieverSSBUYup, the book is VERY different, and MUCH DARKER, if you can believe it. The Toons’ plight as an allegory for racial segregation isn’t just implied, it’s stated outright. Also, the Toons have a lot of complicated laws of physics that deal with how they move, and even how they live and die, IIRC. Honestly, it’s kinda hit-or-miss.
@@joeycoe85 The author said himself he liked the movie more than the book
And in early drafts where she was the main villain
It's actually kind of heartwarming to see Doug step out of his "I can only talk about it if I can shit on it" comfort bubble and actually be willing to talk about films he genuinely enjoys, and even geeking about how much he enjoys it.
This was a great episode, and it's nice to see you trying to evolve.
🖖🏾😎💯
He did this about 10 years ago with his Hook review which begins with something along the lines of "Can I make fun of one of my favorite movies? I don't know but I'm sure gonna try!"
Did I say 10 years? I just checked and it was released in June of 2010, holy sh*t!
It's also satisfying when he gives widely hated movies that he likes a fair assessment, like Spiderman 3 and the 2007 Halloween remake.
@@fjgarcia3
But that's my point. He didn't really make fun of Roger Rabbit. Overall, this was one of his least cynical reviews yet, and I thought it was still hilarious and one of his best, lately.
And yes, that's even keeping Malcolm's portrayal in mind. That bit was more about how the character of Roger went practically nowhere, after the film, rather than shitting on the film itself. He really did seem like a character who would have made more frequent appearances, even if just guest starring in Looney Tunes and Disney shorts. THAT would have been cool, but also probably a total legal hassle, and probably why we haven't really seen much of him, now that I think of it... 😅🤷🏾♂️🖖🏾
@@casesoutherland4175
I concur. 🖖🏾🧐💯
If Judge Doom was played by Tim Curry
“REMEMBER ME, EDDIE?! WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I SAID...WA HA! WA HA! WA HA!”
LOL!!!
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Someone PLEASE animate this!!! ^^^^^ 😃😃😃😃
What if he pinned Hoskins to the wall and said "What have we here? A little... BOY?!?"
"So, your brother's flat? Well, how 'bout that?"
We are never gonna get anything like this ever again for one reason only: Richard Williams, if you ever saw any setpiece of the Thief and the Cobbler, he had an attention to detail that no other animator had. He was a perfecionist.
It was pretty good watched it few months ago.
NC should review the Recobbled Cut
Can't forget about Robert Zemeckis & Steven Spielberg.
Williams attention to detail was to his own detriment though, you can’t exactly keep people finding your project when you keep missing deadlines as much as he was
Not gonna lie, when Judge Doom's real identity as a toon is revealed, I was legit frightened by him. That high pitched voice and the crazy eyes, that is nightmare fuel right there! And what I love about this at the same time is that Eddie is also frightened when he realizes who Doom really is(before Doom talks to him about killing his brother). You see the fear in his facial expression that summarizes the words "My god, that's the guy who killed my brother, and now he is coming for me!"
TBH, even as a kid, Doom’s cartoon eyes weren’t nearly as scary as the image of him being flattened by a steamroller.
His frantic screaming, desperate flailing and especially the fact that he looks like a normal, flesh and blood human terrified the hell out of me. It may have been an act, but for all intent and purposes, Doom was *terrified*. And the vision of a human screaming in terror as they’re slowly crushed by a steamroller has traumatized me my whole life.
i mean honestly, it was him being flattened and coming back up was the scary part for me. the eye scene is just plain BADASS, espeically with his line
And the phenomenal special effects just added to how batshit scary the steamroller scene is. It actually looks like he's getting flattened.
He still would have been turned into a pancake if Steven John Assanti sat on him instead of being rolled over by a steamroller.
You’re a woos.
Yeah I agree, the flattening was really intense when I was I kid.
Hot take: Bob Hoskins should have won an Oscar simply for being able to say the phrase "I always knew I'd get it in Toontown" with a straight face...
Agreed
No kidding. May he rest in peace. I cry every time I think about it.
Not only did he say it with a straight face, he made you feel like he honestly believed that.
As well as "OOGA-BOOGA!"
@@tristanhartup4936 How'd he do THAT without busting out laughing?😂
Fun fact: this was actually Mae Questel’s final performance as Betty Boop before her death
Oh wow
Interesting fact, but I'd say it's far from fun.
@@Craxin01 Yes, you get an upvote for that.
Uhhh fun....?
Yeah... she didn't always "have it" cuz it never left her to begin with
FUN FACT: Judge Doom was actually the Pistol Packin' Possum.
If you watch closely in the shot where Doom shoots Maroon in the back at 23:49, you can see a poster of the Pistol Packin' Possum wearing clothes similar to Doom's while holding a gun that is IDENTICAL to the one Doom shoots with. Plus, the gun in the poster is also pointing right at Maroon.
The Pistol Packin' Possum is the ONLY toon through the whole movie to have red eyes, possums have a very high pitched squeal(that would explain Doom's high pitched voice), and all the posters after the Pistol Packin' Possum's were posters of Roger Rabbit movies. Geez, no wonder Doom chose to frame the toon that took the glory away from him.
As for Doom's gadgets...look where they were! Toon gadgets all around!
Not to mention that Pistol Packin' Possum NEVER appeared in every scene in the entire movie!
Dude, you're good at this. Always wondered who is he.
Wow what a twist
That's right people, Judge Doom was the Pistol Packin' Possum the whole time.
Wasn't doom confirmed to be the murderer of Bambi's mom?
Eddie: "Holy Smokes, you're a TOON!"
Doug: "Surprise?!"
Eddie: "Not really. Those lame brain DOORDASH and MeUndies ideas could only be cooked up by a TOON."
REMEMBER ME EDDIE! When I KILLED YOUR BROTHER! I Talked JuST Like THIIISSS.
Chills.
Doug: "Not just any toooon!"
Lol when are we gonna have a Animanicas Live Action film. imo that would be amazing
I feel like if Doug wasn’t paying for studio space, props, wardrobe and a full cast on 1.25M subs, he could afford to cut one ad. Just my two cents, don’t hate me.
@@lewiskazinsky7334 ok
This was a brilliant movie and a brilliant technical achievement.
DAMN RIGHT
I agree i first watched it when I was 8 and I thought it was amazing, went back and watched it after watching this and realised that it holds up better than some modern stuff
@@noggersoswreview601 The Modern stuff doesn't hold up because Hollywood is trying to force an Agenda of Racial and Gender Diversity and Equality down our throats while trying to destroy Racial and Gender Diversity and Equality
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 No, it's not because of that.
@@DuxyVargol whenever a show or movie stops the plot to have a scene of romance or just sex I usually roll my eyes even if the characters involved are straight. Its even worse when they're gay, when that happens Im like get back to the story damn it!
"She looks like an hourglass if the Sahara Desert filled it up".
Okay, that's the classiest definition of thicc I've ever heard. :D
"When I killed your brother I talked just like this."
I dont need to see him That line alone is scary for me.
I was 8 when this came out and loved it, but naturally that part scared me quite a bit. I had a book with pictures from the movie and for some reason they put a great big shot of Doom with the red eyes right in the part where the book naturally opened because of the staples. My older sister saved the day by neatly folding some wrapping paper and taping it over the scary pic :)
What's neat about Doom is that if you look back its revealed he was a toon actor for MANY toon villains in stuff including supposedly the Hunter in Bambi. He originally was type cast because of his ability to shape shift. However, from what is learned in comics he WASN'T a bad guy. Just played bad guys. What caused him to quite literally turn evil was a head injury he acquired while on the set of a shoot. Though it was believed he got better the truth was the injury was deeper and it caused him to lose his mind actually thinking he was the villains he played. That is where the created Judge Doom persona came from.
His real name was Baron Von Rotten and like Jessica he also closely resembled a human. It is also revealed he was a trailblazer for trying to get toon equal rights in a Toon Actors Guild. He was known as the "Toon With a Thousand Faces" as well. Just a little trivia I found interesting.
huh… Wonder what the real life equivalent would be…
I think I saw a poster that had an evil looking rodent type cartoon like the weasels, and had a mafioso type style and was holding a pistol that had a ridiculously long berall just like the one that tried to kill Eddie. We see the poster in the office of the guy running the studios, right in the back is where it was, that might have been another character "Doom" played. But I always thought that he really was that rodent toon who wanted more rolls so he kept chopping off his body to fit other rolls, and kept chopping and chopping until nothing of who he was is even left, just toon parts stitched together around a mind with so much hate, jealousy, and distaste for all those big shot toons. Atleast that's how I saw it trying to figure out who he was when I watched it as a kid growing up.
Holy cow thank you for that info
@@CharizardMaster69 The character actor Lon Chaney who was called "The Man of A Thousand Faces".
Coincidently, a character he played in one of his earlier pre-1920s roles was a villain that looked so much like Judge Doom...Only difference was the long hair and top hat instead of a bald head and fedora.
Where did you read about this???
Fun fact: This is the only time Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny we're on screen together this is of course before Mickey's Drug rehab for blow!
The cocaine habit and his stint in rehab prevented Mickey from starring in Spacejam as the referee.
Either that or Disney went back on their gentleman's agreement that allowed them to use the Warner Brothers cartoon characters in this movie.
Mickey Mouse is now the pimp that rules the world, while Bugs Bunny is in a rundown retirement home.
@@nonnayerbusiness7704 Mickey Mouse chose not to be the ref because he was disappointed they were playing basketball instead of hockey.
There is a Disney+ Series called "Prop Culture" where we see but also reveal how some prop effects work in some movies. Episode 7 was all about Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Recommend it.
yeah but ... that would require getting Disney+
@@metazoxan2 Pretty soon with the death of Blu-Rays and Cable Channels that will become the only way (or one of the very few ways) to enjoy and support contemporary content legally from movies to series people might enjoy. Now there are many understandable reasons not to subscribe to any (or limited number of) streaming service(s), wait to subscribe, or cancel if you have. But after taking into account certain factors and making a choice if there are a couple of series, content, or other only offered in a certain streaming service than that's going to be the only way till other legal supportive measures are open. I'm might type about a certain series or episodes at times figuring maybe not now but some people might pay for the access maybe 5 years or more down the line. If so then what I can recommend or found interesting which in turn they might also find interesting to check out when that road opens to them. Also based on a recent twitter post from Creator Dana Terrace who wrote: "Seriously the BEST BEST BEST way to support the show" (this case The Owl House) "is watching it on D+." This has me believe that if you become a fan of a certain show and want to support the team making it then watching such shows on the corresponding Streaming Service has become far more vital now vs how it was in the past.
Yes! I love that show! :)
I won’t be surprised of Roger gets a comeback because of Disney+. I’m convinced they are redoing Gargoyles soon.
When I was younger and first saw this film, I was legit shook when he got flattened, but then *sat up* while still flattened. Yeah, the shoe was scarring, and his toon reveal was wild, but flattened cartoon sitting up was freaking unnerving!
This movie should legit be classified as a thriller due to so many unnerving scenes. My folks sold me on this film as it being a funny film based solely on the picture on a video tape case.
The scene when Roger said ' Sometimes in life it's the only weapon we have' is so powerful because it shows Roger isn't just a cartoon that's a job he's more aware than that. I wish there were more scenes of him showing this side.
I honestly thought that line was foreshadowing that toons could die of laughter, but good point.
"That's it, Doom. Give me another excuse to pump you full of lead! So you thought you could get away with it, didn't you? Ha! We toons may act idiotic, but we're not stupid. We demand justice. Why, the real meaning of the word probably hits you like a ton of bricks." And then he gets hit with a literal ton of bricks.
@@Kiku91 But Lt. Santino says that only dip can kill a toon and the only toons we see in the film who laugh to death are evil toons who only laugh at the expense of others.
I think it foreshadowed that laughter triumphed over evil (Judge Doom was thwarted by toon props that set his demise in motion)
This film is legendary for a million different reasons
In deed
The production,the cast,the story, Looney Toones and Disney on the same screen,Christopher Lloyd...
Damn straight
this movie deserves to be analyzed and studied for decades because there will be no film like it for a long time possibly forever
@@doctorspindash2.086 Look up the "Roger Rabbit Effect" on TV Tropes and Idioms. In Japan, although I've seen it once a long time ago on the Cartoon Network, watch the "Twilight of the Cockroaches". First Japanese attempt at live-action/animation fusion dancing.
Approval of God: Gary Wolf, author of the book the movie is *kind of based on,* loved the movie, in fact he liked it so much that *he wrote a sequel to the original book more or less retconning the first and making the books closer to the movie.*
Ah yes, I heard about that. They retconned it so the book (titled Who Censored Roger Rabbit) was a dream I think Jessica had. That's how good the movie is.
The movie has basically nothing to do with the book though.
@@wariodude128 so Jessica dreamt that she was a selfish bitch who was essentially raped by her husband and said husband died horribly after committing a terrible crime? What the hell is going on in this woman’s subconscious to dream up that shit?
@@mrcritical6751 Don't ask me, ask Gary Wolf.
Which is beyond awesome
If you think about it, Roger is a good cartoon model. Energetic, funny and always trying his best. No wonder every cartoon lady falls for him.
Fun Fact: Judge Doom's real name is Baron Von Rotten. He was an actor who played villains in movies, until an accident caused him to believe that he was a villain.
Interesting.
He was also the hunter that killed Bambi’s mom.
@@calebray1834 Damn that's BRUTAL.
@@CommanderBohn no wonder he is evil incarnated he shot the first disney parent
@@jakoblent4694 DESPICABLE.
Christopher Lloyd was so fucking terrifying to me in this movie as a kid that I didn't believe that he was also Doc Brown.
He's also _The Hacker!_
@@mitchfletcher2386 I've no idea what that is.
And then he played that creepy bum in Dennis the Menace and left me scarred.
And Rev. Jim on Taxi. ("What does Yield mean?" 'Slow down' "What .... does ... yield ... mean?"
@@mitchfletcher2386 I remember Cyberchase.
Christopher Lloyd is, unquestionably, one of the most under-appreciated actors in history
He also played Rasputin from Anastasia.
@@orangeslash1667 he sure did
For as relatively small and simple as it is, I think I like him the best as The Woodsman, second only to Doc Brown. I mean, sure, he's great here-- but EVERYTHING'S great here, and the best parts with him are when he doesn't even look or sound like himself.
@@devinpaul9026 i got to check that out. But he's also got Clue, Sin City 2, Wit, One Flew over the Cuckos Nest, Addams Family . and he was Def one of the best Star Trek Villains
@@crakatoot5480 Over The Garden Wall, it's called-- he's a woodsman. I'll say no more on that other than no matter what you think of the whole thing, you have to watch HIS whole story-- it's probably one of the best things-- or even THE best thing-- in the entire miniseries. And that's saying something in MY opinion.
In later years, I've found it fascinating that there's a definite detective angle in Roger Rabbit, but it's a meta one: Eddie isn't a very good detective, but if you're a viewer with a keen eye on you you'll notice that there are a lot of really subtle implications in the movie that Judge Doom is actually a character seen on a poster in Maroon's office (23:33) named Pistol Packin' Possum.
I always thought the whole "humans only" thing was for the human's safety. Cartoon characters can be crazy and are effectively immortal (until the development of dip). The "magic satchel" alone is terrifying when you think about it. What are the limits of what can be pulled out? In fact, Why aren't the toons the ones running everything?
Yeah, that is why the allegory doesn't work 100%. Fear of skin color is inherently crazy because a different skin tone doesn't provide extra power or abilities but Toons are basically unstoppable. It is pretty understandable why a human would fear them.
@@FlynnRider4 Jumping higher, running faster, better at math? Sounds like super powers to me.
@@johnhein2539 Those are stereotypes, not actual facts about the races.
@@johnhein2539 those are stereotypes
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 And stereotypes are low resolution collections of data that prove to be true more often than people who say "those are stereotypes" would be comfortable with. Look up the studies done on stereotype accuracy and be amazed.
But to OP's point: it's the same reason the race analogy doesn't work with the X-Men. Like, if you have a whole variant of humans who can level city blocks after puberty with their laser eyes or magma breath or literally iron bodies, non-mutant humans have every rational right to be afraid of those people. Especially since people, being people, are going to have both good and bad people in any group and a bad mutant is basically a super-powered spree killer or terrorist on steroids.
There would absolutely be prejudice against mutants, and it would be absolutely justified.
Me: "Are you telling me that you could have reviewed Roger Rabbit at any time!?"
Doug: "No, not ANY time... Only when it was NOSTALGIC"
BLBLBLBLBLBLBLBL!!!!
C'mon Crooked Clown where's yer sense of humor?
@Stephen Qualio fun fact: another scene they deleted was Mr. Acme's funeral, and Tom and Jerry were gonna make an appearance.
@@sarahsims6164 And Wiley Coyote sent a wreath.
Brilliant! 😂👏
Not gonna lie, the scene where Judge Doom is revealed to be a toon, while yes I was a kid who was terrified of this scene, I can officially say now, as an adult, I find it extremely badass. I miss you 80's PG rating...
Back then I didn't mind the eyes of doom but now I'm bothered but it's still an amazing movie with no exception compared to some of the things people are making now
I mean 80's PG rating still exists, just look at Rango. The problem is nobody really pushes the boundaries of PG, nobody really goes this far from even though they totally can
Judge Doom scared the hell out of me when I was a kid.
Same. The scene terrified me as a kid.
Dabbing in the watercolors?
11:25 THANK YOU for highlighting that scene! I just re-watched this movie last night & was wowed by the seamless camera work + non verbal storytelling 👏🏾😭🎬
Something cool I learned years later was that the Dip is supposed to be representing the solution used to wipe animation cels clean so that they could be recycled for new shows.
Indeed. It's really clever.
I thought it was just an unholy combination of dangerous paint thinners.
To Cherrie and Chaos, you are both correct.
The concoction is literally a mix of nonpolar solvents, specifically turpentine and acetone and benzine. I work in a plastics manufacturing factory, one part of which prints graphics for Heluva Good and Cool Whip onto the blank cups. Generally, each machine has a number of ink wells. Each ink-well feeds ink onto a plate, which places the image onto a thing called a 'blanket' which acts like the soft part of a stamp, and then the machine "stamps" the image from the blanket onto the blank stock.
When cleaning the ink off of machine parts, the metal plates which contain the image(s) making the graphic, the stamp-like "blankets" that press the image onto the plastic cups, or nearly anything else that gets paint on it, our singular solvent is acetone. This includes cleaning the plastic "sleeves" that are put onto the plates after they are taken off the machine (since without the sleeves the edges of the plates can slice you if you are a klutz like me).
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The ink used is not that different from the paint you would use to paint your house or do an arts-and-crafts project with. The biggest problem to raw acetone is that it's really frickin' flammable. So in a hot enclosed office, you would likely want something less-flammable as well. Like turpentine.
@@onijester56 So much knowledge!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Honestly i think the reason Jessica's line of "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Is so remembered because it's an inpactful line. Jessica uses it to describe herself that she isn't a bad person because of her appearance as that was something she was basically born into having. It could've been another clever and subtle comparison to the racism of the time and the oversexualition and fetishism of black women as a whole.
Yeah that line makes all the r34 of her seem a bit... Rude to the point of the character but at the same time I don't really blame people to an extent it's... Odd in my mind for some reason.
@@metageek7878 well the line is even better here, in a way, by essentially saying that despite how you make me look that's not my personality and it shouldn't be treated as such
That last sentence!!!! You better say that!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@sleepbaby17 It's the depressing truth.
@@sleepbaby17 Glad others see it too.
In the late 80s and early 90s, Roger had a very prominent presence in the Disney theme parks, practically being treated as the sixth member of the Fab Five in stage shows like "Mickey's Nutcracker."
Particularly at MGM Studios. He was all over the place there.
"I've loved you more than any woman has ever loved a rabbit." Has become a less comical line since the rabbit vibrator sex toy became popular.
*Finally a good movie that gets reviewed by you know who??*
@@daffyduck9323 oh yes mr duck!!
talk to the hand
He’s done good movies before. Why does everyone think he only talks about bad movies?
Do you think Terminator 2 isn't a good movie?
Your forgetting his review on The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Batman vs. TMNT
Fun fact: Doom was originally going to be the guy that killed Bambi's mom.
Well that easily would have made him the most despised Disney villain
"source"?
Isn't he supposed to be Pistol Packin' Possum from earlier in the film?
No way! :O
Now I can picture it.
Doom: “Remember me, Bambi? When I *killed* your mother?! I talked JUST! *LIKE!* *_THIIIIIIIS!!!”_*
"Don't pause this scene on VHS it'll grow up your kids too early"
Guess who did exactly that
26:07
No Seriously Doug, WHERE IS THE CENSOR BAR!
Oh it is in the next frame.
Me too. I am now 80.
I freeze-framed my dvd version but was sad to discover they’d darkened the spot so I couldn’t see a thing 😞
Our VCR sucked so much, all we could see were artifacts. I had a good imagination, though!
I had to use VHS tapes learning how to draw growing up. It wasn't easy since the tape wouldn't stay paused.
I honestly thought it was a really cool detail that even though he hated Toons, Eddy still had respect for Betty Boop, possibly due to the fact that he watched her cartoons a lot before his brother died.
I grew up watching this movie, but that shoe death scene was breaking my heart each time, especially since it was so friendly towards Doom, like a little puppy. I will never get over this lil boy's death. RIP lil shoe
Yeah, I always feel sorry for that shoe, even if it was a brief scene. I love Doug, but I don't know how he can laugh at a scene where an innocent shoe who did absolutely nothing is suddenly brutally killed and crying out in pain. I know it's just a cartoon, but we still feel something from that scene and it's very unpleasant to say the least.
*sees this in my feed*
Well, I guess I have to stop everything to watch this. 😀
I stopped everything to watch the movie for my first time.
@@PerpetualAgonizingTorment did it live up to your expectations?
@@brbosen yes, yes it did.
Yello Fellow Toon Cinematic Univer-Seer~
@@PerpetualAgonizingTorment I'm glad you enjoyed it!
One of the things I love about this film is that for toons what dictates how great/desirable you are is comedic effect, not physical appeeal. Boop says Jessica is lucky for marrying Roger, because Roger is supremely funny.
I was introduced to Nostalgia Critic by a friend who showed me his reviews of some truly horrible movies, which, let's face it, is pretty much what all review channels are about, so it's fascinating to see him - or anyone, for that matter - talk positively about something he genuinely loves. We need more of this on the internet - it might not be as funny, but it's really heartening and uplifting.
The only movie that made me feel sorry for a shoe. And I do mean the only one. Seriously; name one other movie that actually involves killing a shoe?
And they apparently made it a shoe to attempt to lessen the emotional impact. And yet it was still REALLY creepy.
Every movie that involves a dog ripping a shoe apart?
nope, but One Piece made me cry over a boat, so i get it.
“Who throws a shoe? Honestly!” - Austin Powers
Any Madea movie?
I keed I keed. I'm a keeder.
"WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I TALKED JUST....LIKE...THHHHHIIIIIIIISSSS!!!!"
That shit traumatized me as a kid and it still traumatizes me now
You are not alone.
i was not an easy to scare kid, but that part made me double take.
I remember having the film on VHS recorded from TV and when i saw that scene i recorded over the film because it scared me lol
I couldn't watch this movie again for years because of Judge Doom.
I closed my eyes in the theaters. It wasn't until several months after getting it on VHS I was able to finally watch.
I love this movie! The scariest part was when Judge Doom reveals himself to be a toon! Those red eyes and that high pitched voice really frightened me! But I am glad that Eddie got to confront his brother's killer because defeating Judge Doom gave him the closure he needed to get back his sense of humor and move on with his life.
There is a comic where a toon bring doom back to like and he can remember everything Eddie did to him.
The one thing I find stupid now after all these years is how Eddie didn’t realize that possibly the toon who killed Marvin acme was also the one who killed his brother, he was killed the same way his brother was and usually when there are 2 victims killed the same it’s usually the same person
Couple things could factor into that.
1. It was a traumatic moment in his life so it’s not a memory he wants to think about. Just looking at a picture of his brother was enough to make him chug a bottle of liquor until he passed out so I can imagine he would try and block out the actual memory as best he can.
2. He doesn’t involve himself with toons anymore and especially not at that point. All he did was take some pictures so to him it’s not really his problem.
tbf though, dropping something heavy on someone's head is like, cartoon cliché 101, it's why Eddie doesn't even question it - although I'm sure being boozed up didn't help that either come to think of it but still
Betty Boop: work's been kind of slow since everyone started liking anime...but I still got it!
"Yeah... you still got it."
@@tristanhartup4936 she sure does.
"Boop Boop Be-Doop"
Betty was the first waifu.
@@sugaxshyxtype That is the most accurate statement I have ever seen online.
When you realize Christopher Lloyd NEVER ONCE BLINKS as Doom is the true genius.
Seeing NC reviewing bad movies is nice but seeing him review films that he actually loves is straight up a treat
Sign me up for more NC reviews of good movies. There's also a higher chance I might've seen them as well.
Always admired Lloyd never blinking in his scenes
I forget where I heard it, but there's a theory out there that explains another reason Jessica is so smitten with Roger and why Betty Boop and other toons all consider her lucky to have him--namely, toons are valued in both human society *and* toon society (and possibly only even EXIST in general) based around their ability to make people laugh. Roger is a literal up-and-coming film star of the silver screen who also embodies this core principle of toon-dom (who's still humble enough to recognize and praise true toon genius, like Goofy), but his entire design is centered around making people laugh.
Jessica's design is not. She doesn't make people laugh. She makes them swoon, or awed, or horny, or what have you, but at the end of the day she doesn't bring the kind of belly laughs that toons value or place their personal worth on. She's not a bad person underneath it all, but she's "drawn that way", which theoretically limits her ability to get ahead in toon society, especially when contrasted with literally every other toon we see in the film, anthropomorphized or otherwise.
While humans find her absolutely breathtaking and can't conceive how someone like her is with someone like Roger Rabbit, for toons, it's exactly the opposite--it blows their mind that a girl like HER, who basically occupies the lowest standing in toon society, somehow managed to land HIM. It's almost a 'Pretty Woman' scenario--which, coincidentally, is *also* owned by Disney and would be released just two years later.
Here's a fact I knew that the Critic missed: Christopher Lloyd never blinks as Judge Doom.
That means his eyes were FROZEN TODAY.
Well he is always in sunglasses how can you tell?
That’s gotta sting.
@@motor4X4kombat Though there is no official record kept by the Guinness Book of World Records, there have been instances of people going over an hour without blinking. But yes, that is a good counterargument. There's probably some mention in the B.T.S.
@@motor4X4kombat It's a fun fact that I've heard about the film over time. It was one of the many things they did to make Judge Doom more menacing. Even with the sunglasses he wears, you can still see his eyes.
Here's what Christopher Lloyd said about it: "I just felt a toon doesn’t have to blink their eyes to remoisten their eyeballs. They’re not human, so I just felt Judge Doom should never blink. It makes him even more ominous, more scary, if he’s just looking like that. It wasn’t really difficult, I’d just keep my eyes open as long as I could, try to time it out with the next take and all that. It was cool. I just like to find little things that make him even more evil, and that was that."
Link to the section of the Wikipedia page where I sourced this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Doom#Casting
It specifically had to be Bugs to give Eddie the tire as well, as Disney said Mickey would “never do something that mean.”
If social media existed back than, it would be a big debate, like would Batman go down or not today.
i mean to be fair, the tire gag DOES fit bugs more than it does mickey.
@@stevenhedge2850 I agree. We’ve seen Bugs pull stunts like that on Elmer, Sam and Daffy time and time again so it wasn’t out fo character for him. He is a stinker.
I did think Mickey was somewhat out of character to even indirectly be part of that prank. Makes one wonder if the good and wholesome Mickey known from cartoons and (especially) comics is just a part he's playing, whereas the real Mickey is more gray.
@@Cenindo Comic book Mickey does have an edge to him sometimes. He's not a one-note character who's just happy and wholesome all the time.
I saw this movie for the first time when it came out on DVD back in 03-04ish. My parents brought it home and I knew nothing about this movie but I loved the hell out of it. I remember watching it at least four or five times within that week over and over again. The fact that I enjoyed it years later proves that this movie truly stands the test of time and should continue to be passed down to each generation
Christopher Lloyd just oozes so much charisma, in any role he plays!
He’s clearly a good actor. He always deserved an Oscar bait role. I bet he would knock it out of the park. I guess the closest he ever got was cuckoos nest.
He does
"I was frozen today!"
@@haire.stamper5602 My point exactly, who else could have made that line so memorable? lol
He’s even good as a funny killer old man in “Nobody”
It was hilarious when Hoskins (eddie valliant) recounted a story about his kid being pissed off about working with great stars like roger rabbit and not bringing any of them to dinner to meet the kid.
I can honestly say that the Judge Doom reveal never terrified me as a kid. Don’t get me wrong I can empathize with Doug here. He looks like this genuinely traumatIzed him and now he’s gotten to the point where he can poke fun at it. I was almost 2 years old when this was released, and didn’t see this until I was between the ages of 8-10 years old.
And the only thing that went through my mind was “ what kind of toon is he supposed to be?” I personally think that I have The Simpsons to thank for my lack of trauma. I’m in no way invalidating anyone who grew up during The Simpsons golden era and was still terrified of this moment.
But The Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror specials genuinely scared me yet ended on hilarious and silly notes. As if I was being subliminally told not to take this so seriously. So I wasn’t able to take Doom seriously enough to be terrified because I knew he would be defeated in the end.
But again I can definitely see how this scene is the ultimate nightmare fuel. Especially in a pre Simpson era.
One of the great unsung heroes of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is Richard Williams. Richard and his team were the animators responsible for animated the toon characters in the film. Richard's infamous perfectionism and insistence on animated on the ones (meaning one frame of animation for every standard frame of life-action film, for 24 frames of animation every second, whereas most animation, whether feature film, short film, or animated television series, animate on twos (one animated frame for every 2 traditional frames of film, for a frame rate of 12 per second), threes (one animated frame for 3 frames of film, meaning 8 frames per second), or even on fours (one animated frame per four frames of film, rendering a very low, choppy 6 frames of animation per second); was crucial to make the toons believable in a live-action setting.
I kind of like that he's doing reviews that discuss fun facts about the movie like his review on The Prince of Egypt.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit: Your whole childhood all in one film.
👍👍👍👍
Honestly what amazes me about this movie even to this day is how well the immersion between live action and animation holds up
@@DarkKnightofAnime Same.
Laserdisc with slow motion and pause
Nah
The fact that Warner Brothers agreed to lend their characters is still magical to me.
I kinda reminds me of Disney and Sony sharing Spider-Man.
Actually It was Spielberg who used his connections to convince non-Disney studios to grant the copyrights of their characters.
@@OGPUEE What ? Like:
- Warner Bros.
- MGM
- Fleischer Studios
- Paramount Pictures/Famous Studios
- Universal/Walter Lantz
- Felix the Cat Creations Inc.
- Western Publishing ( Little Lulu Only )
- DC Comics ( Fleischer Superman Only )
- Jay Ward Productions
- Harvey Comics
- Columbia Pictures
- Hanna-Barbera Cartoons ( With The Exceptions of Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuffs, Cow and Chicken, I Am Weasel, Moxy and What A Cartoon Show. )
- UPA
- Terrytoons
- Embassy Pictures ( Tubby the Tuba Only )
- Nickelodeon ( SpongeBob SquarePants Only )
- Don Bluth
- HIT Entertainment ( Pingu Only )
- Studio MDHR ( Cuphead Only )
- DreamWorks ( Toonsylvania Only )
- Funnybone Interactive ( Stay Tooned ! Only )
- DIC ( Wacky World of Tex Avery and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Only )
- Van Beuren Studios
- 20th Century Fox Animation ( FernGully Only )
- DePatie-Freleng
- United Artists
- Hal Seeger Productions
- TheMeatly ( Bendy and the Ink Machine Only )
- Republic Pictures
- New Line Cinema ( The Swan Princess Only )
And Various Others ?!
I'm _stunned_ you didn't nominate 'Doug' for being dipped.
Timestamp?
One of the most underrated funny moments is when Eddie walks outside of RK Maroon's office after taking the case, and we see a bunch of cartoon cows reading scripts, saying "MOOOOOOOO"... 🤣
“The Toons sing absolutely nobody’s favorite song…”
Me: 🙁
I find moments of this movie scarier than most modern horror movies
Lol this movie was pretty dark for a family movie ngl.
The first time we see the dip used and the fear on the face of that poor shoe...
lol
@@YakkoWarnerTower That's true
I still find the reveal that Judge Doom was actually a toon the entire time one of the scariest movie scenes ever.
God i wish Roger had more airtime in other things, I always found him really adorable.
Agreed! And if we could not get more of Roger, Charles Fleischer should have at least had a more prolific voice acting career because he was perfect.
He captured all of Roger's goofy toony essence while humanizing him at the same time.
My brother and I were so traumatized when the shoe got dipped that our parents had to turn the movie off. We didn't watch the whole thing until years later :'D
I don’t blame you. That was rough.
R.I.P. Clown Shoe. Your partner will be with you one day.
I actually instead of being horrified, got misty eyed when I saw "The Scene". It wasn't so much scary for me as a kid as it was sad. Because even as a child I responded more to the confrontation of the source of Eddie's sadness and trauma. The death of his brother ruined his life, it stole the joy from him. In a lot of ways Doom killed more than just a person on that day. And something about it still brings tears to my eyes even to this day.
But Doom is eternal
The Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse scene is a bigger crossover than Godzilla vs Kong
I have to agree with that. Only because we will never have that kind of crossover between two cartoon icons ever again.
That scene was OK, but the Donald Duck vs Daffy Duck scene from the Ink & Paint Club was the stuff of legend.
28:11 Good god I've never imagined that Christopher Lloyd would be this.... *TERRIFYING*
Imagine him being casted on a Horror Movie as a Psychopath and makes that face.....
I thought I would be scared,but I’m laughing at this scene so hard
This movie is a masterpiece. We talked about it and referenced it all the time back when it came out. It's still iconic. I think it's made much more of a lasting impression than people realize.
Oh god: that thumbnail. Just as terrifying as the movie.
your right
"When I reviewed Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I LOOKED JUST. LIKE. THHIIIISS!"
(Pretty sure someone already made that joke, but screw it I'm doing it again because it makes me laugh 😏).
Here's the weird thing as a kid I was able to watch that whole movie without any problems it was only as I got towards my adult life that I watched it again and found Doom absolutely terrifying I guess I'm not the only one it's one of the most terrifying and unsettling things and even just thinking about it still sends a chill up my spine
@@codynapier1001 honestly: same.
Still not as horrifying as his thumbnail for The Amazing Spider-Man review
Fun fact, Judge Doom also never really blinks or shows breathing in the still shots, he is always just standing there, menacingly. Also in one of the early versions of the script, Judge Doom was the hunter that killed bambi's mom, so Roger having an Uncle "thumper" seems on point.
Kathleen is a producer. She's good at connecting people and making business arrangements to ensure that films get funding and the resources they need to be made. She shouldn't have any creative control, she shouldn't get to make the final call on writers. She got insanely lucky earlier on in her career and got to come up alongside some of the greatest creatives of her time, but when she's the one in charge... you're in serious trouble.
Kennedy?
I still love how amazing how the actor “Eddie Valiant” is British, but plays a damn good New Yorker accent.
I love how Brits can successfully pull of American accents, to the point where many of us often aren't aware they're British, but you rarely, IF EVER, see Americans successfully pulling off British accents.
Bob Hoskins was one of the best actors of his generation. If you've never seen Brazil, do yourself a favor and fix that.
I’m not a bad girl mr valiant I’m just drawn that way
“Oh look piggies”
Hi tweety”
“This little piggy went to market, this little piggy stayed home, this little piggy had roast beef”
“Aahhhh”
“Uh oh ran out of piggies”
One of my favorite parts of the movie it always makes me laugh besides the opening. I also love roger in the movie and how patty cake is the equivalent of cheating
I know Tweety says "piggies" but for me, I hear something different. I hear "pitties" as in pity. "Oh no, ran out of pity" 🤷😏
@@Kanikug I actually like the "pity" thing more, cause it sounds like Tweety was thinking about saving him, but then decided "nah, I deal with enough. This guy can fall, who's gonna care?"
Tweety Bird just casually killing people. No big deal
@@toxicdemon1315 That scene really captured why tweety bird is the worst lol!
@Max so did I but I didn’t want to deal with auto correct lol
Just like with Gargoyles and Gummi Bears, Disney did nothing with Roger since.
I'm fine with them not doing anything with Gargoyles. I highly doubt they can capture that lightning in a bottle again.
@@tinkerer3399 Bull
@@tinkerer3399 Gargos would be a gender fluid if there were a new version now
I love Gargoyles it was different from everything else at the time it was dark it was cool it made me interested in Scotland actually of its culture and its language and clothing that in medieval times were like back then
I heard that Jordon Peele is pitching for directing a live-action Gargoyles adaptation.