Am I THE ONLY ONE Who Cares About PRETTY BORDERS? - Save Game Review
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- In this video titled Am I THE ONLY ONE Who Cares About PRETTY BORDERS? - Save Game Review I literally review the EU4 or Europa Universalis 4 Save Games that you have posted in the Discord. Let's take a look at what our next three save games have to offer. This time we have a Mamluks to Egypt campaign, a Byzantium to Roman Empire campaign and a Burgundy to Lotharingia campaign.
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Yes
Absolutely!
These are incredible tbh how do ppl submit thier saved games? I’d love to get in on this
Yes, please!
keep em comming
Hey thanks for the review of my Lotharingia game!
I actually kind of lucked into being the Emperor in this game if I remember correctly, Protestant came out on top of the League War entirely without my intervention and I swapped Protestant when I realized I would be like the only available candidate for Emperorship since I was allied to the one or two electors at the time.
As far as the bordergore: I expanded into Sweden and was intending to feed that into Denmark but war with the Ottomans got in the way, and I only expanded into the Ottomans because they were the leader of the Revolution so war 1 was releasing Greece and war 2 was taking everything and 100%ing them for the achievement.
Great game!
Only one question is still got no answer. Where was GB capital?!?
This is my favourite series, wouldn’t mind getting like 12-15 videos like this a month
This is definitely becoming my favourite series. A to Z and Releasables are both great, but can sometimes can feel a bit repetitive. And country guides are obviously going to provide the most info on just that one country, but these give lots of general gameplay information, especially when he points out good and bad decisions. I'm definitely up for one a week or more, I'm sure there's a lot of saves sent in. Maybe even do some ones that would rank =
A MONTH?
@@MyUsersDark basically every 2nd to 3rd video
@@tplzrxy5682 Oh my bad, I didn't realize how posts that often lol
yeah, I get that then
That egyptian colonist being in south east asia is such an EU4 mood.
Mamlukian Australia moment
Very Drew-pilled of them
Kinda cool sering a Roman Empire with a strong Persia in the Border, just like the old days...
Damn i really hoped he'd review my pre-1700 world conquest as byzantium
I’m sure it’s on the list, but there have been a lot of byz games lately
One thing I will say about that Naval Professionalism reform in the Mams-Egypt game, you can use that to complete a mission rather than completing Maritime or Naval Ideas, and doing it that way gives you +2 Naval Tradition every time you recruit an Admiral. Probably why they didn't have the Modernized Furusiyya.
Only mentioning this cos I'm about done with my Mams-Egypt-Rum game, and thinking of sending it in for your criticism!
yup, that is exactly why I picked it, switched to something else later when everything else was filled in
Uh, not linked but I wanted to know: since the 1.36 I've seen only 2 time the burgundy inheritance over 4 games, has it been lowered in chances of triggering or just bad luck?
Bad luck, it’s almost guaranteed to happen (Burgundy will always have either no heir or a low claim heir since their heir’s claim strength decreases over time until the Succession is resolved) but a lot of times Burgundy will rival both France and Austria so it goes to a random country like Oldenburg or Brittany and they break free as soon as they can.
You really undervalue forts, as they reduce micro for chasing down armies, the help with rebels and most importantly they help your army tradition.
I agree with him. You mostly only need forts on your borders and important choke points. Once you convert areas to your religion, you don't really need to worry about rebels there ever again. You can keep an army stack in a region to deal with ones that spawn from events. Army tradition is never usually a problem if you're fighting lots of wars, and the money saved from the forts is better reinvested into the economy or spent on more army.
And for my Eransharh game there are a lot of missions involving building forts and ramparts, and the button to province requirements doesn't seem to work right so I was just spamming them out to maybe hit it.
You don't need to chase down armies, just siege harder than they do. Each province is worht 0 warscore already anyway with so many provinces. And they really don't help with army tradition that much. At max +1 if you have 1 max lvl fort per 100 dev. At that size you're stuck on 100 army tradition anyway as each fort siege gives +1 tradition.
Am I the only person that cares about honouring a call to arms rewarded with land on peace deal? ...
I think you should try to make this a weekly series, I really like them
its actually more beneficial to trade company basically all states that have a center of trade in them. and then core other states. you get so much goods produced bonus
u should do one of these but like only meme and funny nations (like natives and weird countries)
First!!! But seriously, thank you for doing more of these!!!! :)
It's been a little while since I've played EU4, so maybe it's a new thing, but how did his generals have 7 fire pips?
Egypt has an idea that gives max fire pips increase, it's a new modifier (different from normal fire pip, it increases the cap). They started adding it a couple updates ago, Britain gets the same thing but for admirals iirc
@@nonicknamefound7854 True that's cool. I like that choice, though it seems weird that some random Egyptian general would have more pips than Napoleon lol
The Burgundy to Lotharingia campaign kind of reminds me of my own campaign that went in the same direction. So mine was harder cause i didnt flip to protestant and they were very powerful, the league war was so dificult and i wasnt the emperor, it was still Austria...i couldnt even do the burgundian conquest achievement becouse i formed lotharingia too early and in the moment france and austria were my subjects after i revoked i was not eligible :(
The only good part with that campaign is that it teached me how to handle HRE and that i managed to get voltairs nightmare by releasing tones of nations out of lithuania, poland, aragon, castille, ottomans, brandenburg and than adding them to the empire.
I ended up with the whole of Europe under my control but it was very late in the late 1700,s that i couldnt realy continue much.
Burgundy is definetly fun.
Forts are great. Free army tradition. I never delete them
Yeah, if you are making +100 ducats monthly it doesn’t really matter.
do you thinking make a up-to-date beginners guide or the old ones still works? love your vids!
Aw I submitted my save to your discord I thought I was gonna be the one this time
Why would you recommend him to build workshops in provinces which only give 0.02 extra ducats every month? the return on investement is so bad. It would take more than 400 years in game for those to pay off
That’s not border gore
This is very interesting for me to see I actively work in my economy while I play and do my expansion so I’m always the richest country in the world by 1615. So it’s very interesting to see that not all players do that and can just ignore their economy.
In all of my playthroughs every province needs to be covered by at least one level two forts. For Military tradition and anti devestation and I hate having rebels or enemies roaming around somewhere in my back. If someone breaches my first line I like to know that there is another line and another one and another one.
It gives me happyness, it gives me peace... so no... I won't do no - fort - runs. It stresses me out.
we gotta talk about how in the rome run spain and castille existed simultanously
how do i submit save games
No, I base half of my playthrough around nice borders. I'll even feed other countries so the map doesn't look like shit.
I'm really liking these types of videos. Thanks man 👍
i rather take less provinces to have better borders xD i dont even accept border gore between my wars xD
In the party for Egypt, I would take trade ideas instead of quantity.
what is the track in 17:05?
This may be a stupid question but how do you get decisions with the gold backgrounds?
I think you are talking about the decisions that comes with estate priviliges, you can find them on the bottom of list while granting priviliges to estates.
Oh thank you, i see it now.
For the Mamluks guy, I understand the TC strategy. TC gives % good produced to all the states NOT in the TC in that node. And the % is proportional to the trade power of the TC provinces.
So in this case by TCing the Thrace state, he gives extra goods produced to all of his provinces in Constantinople trade node.
A lot of people (like me) build a lot of forts in order to cover all the zones of control so that rebels won't fuck up the provinces when they spawn. It's just a quality of life thing, not really a min-maxing choice.
Hey, I finished a fun game with a focus on pretty borders as a colonial Christian japan going for stardust crusader made in japan and kirishitan japan in one run. Ended up getting better than Pietr Han too for raiding so many Spanish fleets. How would I submit it?
Could you do a video on combat/army building? Also maybe one in what and when to dev provinces, if/when to concentrate dev? Thanks RH!
Could be cool to see an economy guide, like how to set up trade nodes, when to move your trade capital, where to build marketplaces, which buildings to build where and when, etc. (Obv it will be a bit situational but just a general thing)
SAVE GAME REVIEW!
Love those savegame reviews to see how other people are playing the game.
Btw Hawk: Vindobona = Vienna 😉
British Britain 🤣
29:12 the map just does that sometimes idk why
Would you except save games from mods if we include the mod list?
Can anyone explain why you would route Syrian trade to alexandria instead of constantinople. Surely you are losing trade by sending it there first because you have more of the Syrian trade node than the alexandrian?
Short answer: trade steering
longer answer: for some reason merchants... create trade value? and it's based on how much trade value there is already... if you have 2 merchants steering to the same node, then they just push stuff there and add a bit... if you have them in a row, then the 1st adds a bit and sends it to the 2nd, and the 2nd can then build up on the 'base' trade and the added trade from the 1st merchant before sending it forward... it's why assuming you have enough control long chains are ridiculously more effective than funneling everything to the same node via the shortest route possible
@@nonicknamefound7854 oh weird. Didn't know that thanks
@@jamieward3574 I think you're still probably right even with the trade steering bonus due to how much value Alexandria will leak. Like at best you get a 5ish% multiplier on the Syrian value from the extra merchant steering but you're definitely losing more than that to leakage at this point.
The Egypt Game looks like a what if Antony and Cleopatra won Actium.
Is it uncommon to play all the way until 1780-1800?
for me yes.
best fun i have in game is up to late 1600.
then i usually call it an end and start a new game.
i usually reach my goals for the campaign around that time.
longest i played was with aragon forming roman empire.
and it was up to late 1700's because i waited to diplo annex personal unions to form rome
based redhawk
Hell no, nice color and pretty borders is everything.
I think that much fort is necessary at late game bc you cant buy anything with that much ducats so you spend it on local defensiveness xd
I did not look at the he forts but all I can say for sure is
Forts are excellent in keeping rebels and incursions controllable.
Less sieged down provinces = less war exhaustion, more money, more manpower recovery. Enemy visible while you siege down their provinces.
Forts were basically essential in my One Faith.
The worst things were stuff like the Portuguese marching into the South of Tunis, circumventing my forts in Northern Marocco and Alexandria
BRITISH BRITAIN
How do you submit a safegame?
I do too
Yes, more like this please:)
I hesitate to comment because I don't like "piling on" - but I don't understand why the Egypt player moved his trade capital to Constantinople. Keep it in Alexandria! - one of the most powerful nodes (as in, Power) in the game. The Delta state has three Trade centers; and Cairo is Cloth/Farmland for easy devving. What am I missing? Plus, if the player wants to control an end node (after all, a lot of leakage in Alexandria), go for Genoa rather than Venice. I think Red Hawk needs do a super-basic Trade tutorial, if he hasn't done one already. For example: Don't make Thrace a Trade company when you don't control the Venice end-node, that kind of thing. Watch where the arrows flow, etc.
Because Alexandria gets trade stolen by Italians and Constantinople no matter what you do, powerful and rich node, but the flow is terrible
Main problem is what's downstream from Alexandria. It feeds directly into Constantinople, Venice, and Genoa- all very high dev, pretty high trade power as well, so each of those is going to have a lot of countries all pulling trade value out of your main node.
By moving to collect in Constantinople, you can send trade from Persia, Hormuz, and further east into Aleppo and then directly to Constantinople without exposing it to leakage into the Italian end nodes. Constantinople _only_ feeds into Ragusa, which is a node you can pretty easily just fully conquer, preventing any trade power from downstream provinces affecting your collection and leaking value that way. This is why some people call Thrace a "pseudo-end-node"- only one downstream node that's relatively easy to control and prevent trade from leaving.
This also moves your trade more downstream, meaning you can collect the value from not only Thrace but also pull in Crimea and its feeders if you've got extra merchants.
Additionally, the trade centers being so concentrated in the Delta state does make _it_ especially good to trade company if you end up moving your capital to Constantinople. Having trade power in a TC gives a pretty good goods produced modifier on all all non-TC land in the same node, so you just unstate the Delta and keep everything else stated and you end up making a good bit more money from that node overall. That TC state would then additionally help with steering to constantinople and fighting the Italian trade power.
Zanzibar, Hormuz, and Beijing are other examples of nodes with only a single downstream node that can be made into pretty good pseudo-end nodes.
It literally just makes more money. The trade power in a node says almost nothing about how much money it actually makes you, it's only relevant when determining what percentage of the trade value in the node you have control over, or how much of the trade value flowing into/through that node you can either direct where you want, or cash in for ducats.
Whether he was collecting in Alexandria or pushing the money to Constantinople, the same ~30% of the trade value is going to flow out of it into Venice and genoa. Constantinople as a trade node, can collect money from everything Alexandria can, plus the Constantinople node itself, plus Crimea and everything that flows into it, it's just a wealthier node full stop. Everything that you said is good about Alexandria applies all the same to Constantinople. All the centers of trade, all the devving of good resources, all of it applies just as well to Constantinople, because the trade value that comes from those things flows into it.
He had 74% control over Constantinople, and 70% over Alexandria. Pushing the trade value you control from Alexandria into Constantinople and collecting there instead makes you more money, a lot more money, it's that simple.
Also, a primary goal of trade is always to get your main collecting node as close to 100% control as possible, in other words, turning it into an end node. Conquering Italy to get a true end node takes a long time. The amount of extra cash you'll make in the meantime getting a pseudo end node and collecting in Constantinople by conquering the Balkans while you take your time conquering Italy will be massive, especially since it is way, way easier to conquer those areas than it is to push into northern Italy.
Thank you!
I never understood complaints about border gore. I've seen historic borders and sometimes countries own cities in the center of other countries. So I've never put any thought into nice borders nor does it bother me. It wouldn't bother me even if it wasn't historical.
You're lucky. Border Gore bothers me so much lol. I've taken 1 province out of a state I didn't need just to get smooth borders.
The HRE is watching
When your playing a paradox map game for hours straight, the little things that make borders look like shit really gets to you
I don't mind it in EU4, in CK2 or 3 it's inevitable, and I'm too focused on building things to notice or care in Victoria 3, but the abominations the AI comes up with in Hearts of Iron...
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