2 Stroke 250R's vs 4 Stroke Hybrid Quads

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • This is moto 2 from the opening round of the 2001 AMA ATV Nationals at Echeconnee MX near Macon, GA. This was shot by the H-Bomb Films crew while Wes Miller was filming for Huevos 4.

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  • @r6exrider
    @r6exrider 6 месяцев назад +10

    Nobody would have thought that just a few years later the big 4 manufacturers would all have 450s. At least at that time I would have never dreamed it. I miss those days

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, it has been crazy to watch the ebbs and flows of the ATV industry.

    • @mitchellringel2059
      @mitchellringel2059 5 месяцев назад +1

      Cannondale did it best. What a heartbreak that company was. Ughhh

    • @LTR1420
      @LTR1420 Месяц назад

      ​@@mitchellringel2059they were definitely ahead of their time, but I wouldn't day did it best. The LTR450 is easily the best production 450 ever made. You could pull a ton of HP out of them and nothing could touch them when it came to handling. That's why Walsh based his gen 2 hybrid on that chassis.

  • @ironman6527
    @ironman6527 6 месяцев назад +7

    Love the sound of 2 and 4-strokes racing together.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, this was a very cool time in the sport.

  • @LTR1420
    @LTR1420 Месяц назад +1

    This will always be my favorite era of quad racing. For the longest, it was the 2005/6-2010 era because we had never seen production quads that good. Now looking back, I prefer the short lived hybrid and 250r years. I've been out of racing for over 10 years now, but something about those machines were so cool. I guess it's also because those are the years that made me fall in love with the sport.

  • @ARdave311
    @ARdave311 6 месяцев назад +4

    So sick Wes, thanks for putting all this unseen footage out. It’s eapecialy cool to see the pros chatting it up after the ride, so much of us looked up to them like crazy growing up, make me feel like I was in the pits with them 🤙

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, I have tons of behind the scenes footage that I will post.

  • @alexhoudek13
    @alexhoudek13 6 месяцев назад +3

    This footage is awesome to see as someone who wasn't even born yet at the time! I love that the after moto talk between the racers was included

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it's cool to look back. I will be posting more.

  • @l88ch3r
    @l88ch3r 6 месяцев назад +2

    I remember some footage from this track/event in Huevos 4 I believe. Wish I could go back and check. All my DVD's got lost in a garage fire in 2016. Sucks.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, this is in Huevos 4. Sorry about the fire. I do have box set for sale on our website www.bombsquadracing.com.

    • @l88ch3r
      @l88ch3r 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks I'll check that out soon as I'm able!@@WesMiller70

  • @bbarker5766
    @bbarker5766 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've known Shane Hitt for a very long time because we grew up not far from each other. I miss seeing and hearing those 250R"s ripping around the tracks and woods!! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @wolfpackracing91
    @wolfpackracing91 6 месяцев назад +3

    The first race of 2001 was actually the first race for Doug Gust on his TC DRZ400 hybrid.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, the hybrids were just coming around.

  • @pelster818
    @pelster818 6 месяцев назад +4

    Huevos movies were sooo good. I loved huevos 4 /2 the most I think. Soundtracks in those films were the best

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +1

      2, 3 and 4 were the best

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +3

      It was always fun selecting the music.

  • @dougdecker1261
    @dougdecker1261 6 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome wes! Thank you!!!!!

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      No problem. Spread the word, the more views I get on here, the more time that I can devote to it.

  • @davidc4233
    @davidc4233 6 месяцев назад +2

    I watched the Red Bud race of Travis Spader the year he won Championship. Got a bunch of video and pictures. Nobody was touching him on that Roll Design 250R.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      Travis was ripping that year!

  • @haymaker3046
    @haymaker3046 6 месяцев назад +3

    Too bad we won’t ever live through an era like this again.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it was a special time.

  • @867diesel
    @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +3

    Yesterday I rode an ltr450 that JJ built . That bike was amazing 🤟🤟

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      That is awesome, JJ is the man!

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 my next goal is to ride a 250r built by him lol

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@867dieselThat would be awesome. The one he's riding in this clip would be fun. He hauled ass on it!

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад

      @@WesMiller70 he hauled ass on them all

  • @The.Slater.Show.85
    @The.Slater.Show.85 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is amazing stuff. Pumped to see all this upcoming footage. ❤️🇺🇸

  • @redsteam1
    @redsteam1 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love this! Thanks Wes!!!!

  • @Jimbo718Slice
    @Jimbo718Slice 6 месяцев назад +2

    so rad to finally see the raw footage🤘. helmet cam footage would be cool too

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      I have a bunch of old helmet cam footage that I will be posting. It sucks because a lot of it doesn't have audio.

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@WesMiller70 we can make the sounds our selves haha

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      @@867diesel

    • @Jimbo718Slice
      @Jimbo718Slice 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 thats unfortunate but understandable. i used to try duct taping flip cameras onto my helmet back before the gopros took over with little success.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      Wait until you see the behind the scenes of some of the shit we did. @@Jimbo718Slice

  • @DonkeyEvo
    @DonkeyEvo 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is gold!

  • @noodle3384
    @noodle3384 5 месяцев назад

    those last couple laps jones would find another gear. really make you realize how fast joel hetrick and his new machine are.

  • @patriotmusclelabs2831
    @patriotmusclelabs2831 5 месяцев назад

    I raced B class .. that track gets so rough!! Momentum was/is important there. That track will tell you in 15 mins who is in shape and who isn't. I like rough tracks because i trained alot so i always excelled in that environment.

  • @minibikemadman
    @minibikemadman 6 месяцев назад +1

    long live the 250r...i cant imagine if the puma cylinders were around and these guys rock out with 400+cc 250rs...so bad ass to hear the 4 strokes and 2 strokes. Keep em coming wes!

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks, there's more to come.

  • @blakerichnow
    @blakerichnow 6 месяцев назад +1

    crazy to see how bad the suspension setups were back then compared to what the pros have now.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      Some of those quads worked pretty damn good. That also was a really rough track. They go back there this year.

    • @blakerichnow
      @blakerichnow 5 месяцев назад +1

      I had a Houser 426 back in the day and It rode awesome but was super soft also had custom axis shocks. I think everyone rode their quads way to soft back in the day. When I raced back in 2016 on my yfz I loved having the suspension stiffer mainly for hitting bigger jumps. overall everything about modern riding is a lot different. I feel the big double some of the dudes were rolling most C class kids would hit also. I love seeing these old clips do some Huevos 8 thats my favorite of all time. the red bud and Glen Hellen were awesome clips along with dana and Jason at jasons track. the jump over the grass always sticks with me. id love to see that behind the scene.
      @@WesMiller70

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  5 месяцев назад

      There's plenty more coming.@@blakerichnow

  • @MartinezHQ
    @MartinezHQ 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you Wes 🙏.

  • @thetrx250rchannel5
    @thetrx250rchannel5 6 месяцев назад +1

    At 10:30 that is one young looking Mark Baldwin😂

  • @courtneymeyer3987
    @courtneymeyer3987 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wes,
    I never post comments.
    In late 40’s now and miss these days. I have home videos of my kids and a Huevos video is playing on the tv in background in so many of them. From Oklahoma and have pictures of when Bomb Squad came out and did a show at Little Sahara. Glad to see you posting these. I have all the Huevos videos. First 3 in VHS. Don’t even own a player anymore. Think the huevos videos will ever be released for digital purchase?

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      Great story. I have the videos available on DVD and am looking at digital options. But as of right now, they aren't available that way.

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 there are a few of the newer DVD's that i didnt get . where can we go to buy them ? also id like to just buy new ones to save my original's . can never have too many Huevos videos

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      You can get dvd's and merch at www.bombsquadracing.com. @@867diesel

    • @867diesel
      @867diesel 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 sweet , right on man

    • @shawnshannon1735
      @shawnshannon1735 6 месяцев назад +2

      Its great seeing these races again, I used to race at LACR, got to chat it up with Cory Ellis and Jeremy Schell. Great guys, they were definitely dominant in the pro class.

  • @rustyATV
    @rustyATV 6 месяцев назад

    I think I was spectating at this race.

  • @codyroberts8593
    @codyroberts8593 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey look! It's a rough motocross track. To bad those don't exist anymore.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      They're going back there this year, but I don't know what it's like anymore.

  • @SYCKNTWISTED
    @SYCKNTWISTED 6 месяцев назад +1

    More of this stuff!!!!!!

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm working on it. There is so much footage, it is pretty time consuming. But there is more coming.

  • @babyenzo.
    @babyenzo. 6 месяцев назад +1

    By chance do you have any ‘B-Sides’ footage of when you guys went to the Idaho Dunes in Huevos 7? That’s my all time favorite section from the Huevos series, would love to see some raw footage of that if you have any. Thank you!

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      I should. I am going through everything.

    • @babyenzo.
      @babyenzo. 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@WesMiller70 awesome! Bloody Cape by Deftones went so good with the footage, every time I listen to their self titled record I think of that Huevos installment. The glen helen section to Hexagram was really good also…

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, definitely. I always liked their music.@@babyenzo.

    • @babyenzo.
      @babyenzo. 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 so fitting especially for that whole era of that video, did you have to reach out to the band or their management to be able to use em in the videos?

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      We dealt with bands, labels, managers all of the time.@@babyenzo.

  • @lriley0033
    @lriley0033 6 месяцев назад

    Sick thanks for sharing

  • @GassedOutProductions
    @GassedOutProductions 6 месяцев назад +1

    Neeed morrrrrre!!!

  • @JoeyCampbell-bl5zg
    @JoeyCampbell-bl5zg 3 месяца назад +1

    I ride with Keith little and met dana creamy in Russellville Alabama

  • @F5Tornado44
    @F5Tornado44 6 месяцев назад +1

    Damn! I wish I could've been there and in my prime.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      It was a good time.

    • @F5Tornado44
      @F5Tornado44 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WesMiller70 Yeah, it looks like the Legend race was more fun (at least for the riders). That would've really been a good one to be at. Farr didn't look too happy in this one. lol

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, a TT race is a lot more easy on the body. This track was brutal and really wore some guys out. I think Tim had crashed and had a bad back if I remember correctly. He wasn't a fan of that course. lol@@F5Tornado44

  • @redsteam1
    @redsteam1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can Redbud be next? ❤❤❤ Please please please!!

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      It's not next, but I'm sure I will have some footage from there at some point.

  • @mxbeanz1206
    @mxbeanz1206 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sick 🎉

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      There is plenty more of this to come!

  • @JoeyCampbell-bl5zg
    @JoeyCampbell-bl5zg 3 месяца назад +1

    Gust nacs legend

  • @scale_nerd356
    @scale_nerd356 5 месяцев назад

    Back when gncc was still a gncc

  • @ronaldtartaglia4459
    @ronaldtartaglia4459 6 месяцев назад +1

    What did the hybrids use for motors? 400ex, motors????

    • @ARdave311
      @ARdave311 6 месяцев назад +1

      They used crf450 dirt bike motors. They where lightning fast, some quads used yz426 motors but the crf450 was by far more popular

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      YZ400F

    • @noluck20
      @noluck20 6 месяцев назад +1

      440cc was the limit back then.

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад

      @@ARdave311 this was in 2001, so the CRF wasn't out yet. The quads that Farr and Ellis were on had Yamaha YZ426F motors in them. But you are correct on the CRF's later on.

    • @jbird1173
      @jbird1173 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yz400f, then the 426. I had a 426 stroked to a 440 that had nothing but problems. Went back to the 426. I ran a 400ex frame, Tim Farr had a laeger 250r geometry frame with the 426 engine. Daryl Rath had a early walsh frame with a ktm 520, and Pintop custom axis 21 in shocks. Doug gust ran a dr 400 engine in a 250r geometry chassis. That led to the development of the ltz400.

  • @ronaldtartaglia4459
    @ronaldtartaglia4459 6 месяцев назад +1

    Longlivethefourtrax250r

    • @WesMiller70
      @WesMiller70  6 месяцев назад +1

      It was a badass quad. And by this point, they had them dialed.

    • @ronaldtartaglia4459
      @ronaldtartaglia4459 6 месяцев назад

      @WesMiller70 I have a stocker resto 88. Yes, I have since painted my clutch cover🤣
      ruclips.net/user/shortsMVkeS409mXE?si=E7BKy0ZPJaExzPaZ