SNEAKY TRICK of Billy Gibbons. It's SIMPLE (Learn in Under 5 Minutes)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @stevescontriano860
    @stevescontriano860 Год назад +11

    Thank you. I’m 64 years old and still a garage musician. I wish I could’ve met you when I was younger but I keep trying.

  • @jonvig4771
    @jonvig4771 Год назад +18

    Mark, no words. I'm a failed guitar player of 30 something years, and life didn't allow me to reach playing abilities I should have. Billy has been my #1 for 46 years now. Never once would I have ever considered thinking to have done this. Just WOW 😮.

  • @mfohr
    @mfohr 10 месяцев назад +4

    Awesome. Love Billy Gibbons, one of the true masters of blues rock.

  • @Cxyygtr
    @Cxyygtr 2 года назад +48

    After 30 years of playing guitar it's rare to find eureka moments like this! OMG I've been playing this riff for years and it never sounded right. Just played it and hurrah, instant Billy! Bravo sir. 🙌👏🙌

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Glad to help!

    • @littlegoobie
      @littlegoobie 2 года назад +1

      that was me with Whole Lotta Love using the microbend to get the dissonance instead of sliding that everyone does.

    • @TNT-km2eg
      @TNT-km2eg Год назад

      Ian Con
      30 years playing , and this is new to you !? You take the cake

    • @tannermulford2033
      @tannermulford2033 Год назад

      ​@T N T his focus shouldn't be yours, that's kinda the point of music

  • @longjohn526
    @longjohn526 Год назад +2

    This is giving me flashbacks to the day I discovered Dropped D tuning, something I grew so fond of that I installed a Scruggs Tuner on one of my Telecasters

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 2 месяца назад

      I rarely leave drop D tuning. I've built my playing technique around it the last few years.

  • @Dontchangemynameok
    @Dontchangemynameok 2 года назад +3

    Been playing for 47 years. Never seen that tuning. Can’t wait to check it out. Cheers!

    • @CaptainRon801
      @CaptainRon801 4 месяца назад

      Since you like the drop "D" tuning with classic rock, try Neil Young's "Ohio" with it and enjoy the goodness even more my friend. BTW, Mark has some great tricks on other videos, please check him out.

  • @brucejedwabny3473
    @brucejedwabny3473 Год назад +6

    I adjusted my air guitar and will be ready tonight

  • @GTRxMan
    @GTRxMan 2 года назад +67

    I've used this tuning for years. It's perfect for playing rhythm and lead on open G songs (think Rolling Stones) as it allows you to get the open G sound without affecting fingerings of scale patterns/licks.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +13

      Exactly. And it takes 5 seconds to tune it, so you don't need to grab another guitar or hold up the band while you re-tune.

    • @lilmoe4364
      @lilmoe4364 2 года назад +3

      Dropping that A to a G opens up new worlds 👍

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      @Gerald Dixon Cummings Yes, that's exactly it!!

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 2 года назад +1

      That’s what used to my head in in the 70’s when trying to work out those licks from the record! At times it was almost enough to make me give up! Thank gawd punk came along when it did or I’d have jacked the guitar in! That just gave me enough time to work out all those easy tunes, and pick up the little tricks those other guys we’re doing!

    • @davidlane180
      @davidlane180 2 года назад +1

      Agree. 'Start Me Up' (Stones) works with this 1 string tweak.

  • @flapjackson6077
    @flapjackson6077 3 месяца назад +1

    Holy moly! Clever indeed! I just saw ZZ tonight and I’m binging on Billy Gibbons’ guitar techniques. They played Waiting for the Bus/JJLC.
    The boys are as good as they’ve ever been, even in their 70s!
    Thanks for the great tip! 👍

  • @dirtywaterfab1695
    @dirtywaterfab1695 7 месяцев назад +1

    Billy Gibbons is genious. A straight ahead blues rock but the timing and tempo are so unique, the way the turn-around turns on a dime straight into the 2nd stanza.
    and this was a great lesson. it's always the little things. thanks!

  • @jolkraeremeark6949
    @jolkraeremeark6949 2 года назад +30

    I don't have enough tricks to need a bag, so this is AWESOME!

    • @Yundra344
      @Yundra344 2 года назад +1

      Helo come like friend, good luck, god be with you🤝🏻

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      LOL!! That's great. Glad to help!!

    • @tlee9484
      @tlee9484 Год назад

      I have plenty of tricks, but not for the 🎸 guitar..😢

    • @paxderm8512
      @paxderm8512 Год назад

      ​@@Yundra3444 and 6i6ĺò4ò6 õo4ey

  • @robmoen4609
    @robmoen4609 Год назад +2

    Awesome! Thank you!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

  • @sholland42
    @sholland42 2 года назад +13

    I’ve played this song so many times, but never figured this one string change out. Thanks, it’s been driving me crazy forever.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      Glad to help!

    • @austntexan
      @austntexan 2 года назад

      @@MarkZabel This is how he plays it live?

    • @fycusdpigslayer5269
      @fycusdpigslayer5269 2 года назад

      😎🎸 Yeah this is great it drove me me crazy to but that sure didn't take forever getting to crazy was a real short trip ✌️😂🎸 just keep playing

    • @JerryRiceBall
      @JerryRiceBall Год назад

      @@austntexan Billy plays it in standard tuning.

  • @johndaugherty4127
    @johndaugherty4127 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Reverend Billy G. No one like ZZ Top. Blue Jean Blues... It seems the greatest player's play some of the easiest stuff. It's more about tone and timing. Thank you so much.

  • @justinprizant1980
    @justinprizant1980 Год назад +1

    Wow. Thanks Zabel

  • @thomashughes1738
    @thomashughes1738 2 года назад +1

    I never ever ever think of different tunings! Awesome. Thank you!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure. I'm usually the same!

  • @adamvigil8320
    @adamvigil8320 2 года назад

    Billy is way ahead of most of us. Thanks.

  • @jonesy2111
    @jonesy2111 9 месяцев назад +7

    God bless Texas ⭐️and Billy Gibbons 👍💯

  • @andresbarajas5851
    @andresbarajas5851 9 месяцев назад +1

    yeah Billy is full of simple tricks....was trying to play rhythm guitar tab of TV Dinners in standard E tuning and its simple enough, but as soon as i tuned it to drop D to play the bridge, all the rhythm power chords became simple two or three string barre chords, and i could still play the solo parts on the high strings, plus i could get a low harmonic open DAD chord i couldn't with standard E.....it makes complete sense re-tuning one string unlocked all of Billy's secrets....so simple its complex, thats why he's the best, rock n roll genius.

  • @martinarthur2597
    @martinarthur2597 Год назад +1

    What a marvelous tip. This opens up so much.Thank you Mark

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

  • @shayh.3556
    @shayh.3556 4 месяца назад +1

    WOW, great lesson man! These are the tricks most of us wouldnt even think of

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  4 месяца назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @scottsevertson1803
    @scottsevertson1803 3 месяца назад

    Holy Cow !! I been playing it the hard way forever, U can never stop learning. LUV your videos.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  3 месяца назад

      Rock on!

    • @flapjackson6077
      @flapjackson6077 3 месяца назад

      😂 I always love it when I discover an easier way. And I always wonder how it escaped me for so long!

  • @CaptainCraigKWMRZ
    @CaptainCraigKWMRZ Год назад

    Been playing for 50 years and still learning 😀.

  • @steveg.3022
    @steveg.3022 2 года назад +1

    Love that song, too! Great explanation. Thanks.

  • @michaelcraig2450
    @michaelcraig2450 2 года назад +2

    40 years later, I now have the answers! Thanks Mark!

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions Год назад +3

    I've been using 'drop G' for years mate! Opens up a LOT of rhythm playing for blues and early rock!

  • @Gimmea59Paul
    @Gimmea59Paul Год назад

    Thanks for reassuring me on this one as I have never had the opportunity to ask Billy but I have be detuning that A string for a long while ñow.

  • @robertbaker3174
    @robertbaker3174 2 года назад +1

    Most excellent Mr. Mark. 65 and not going to set the world on fire but really enjoy learning these things!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Absolutely! Anything that makes life easier!

  • @buddhamus
    @buddhamus 5 месяцев назад +1

    Cool trick. I would have never figured it out on my own. Thank you.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Glad to help

  • @ST-xg3gy
    @ST-xg3gy 2 года назад +1

    Wow! That makes such a huge difference. Never even seen that done before. Cool!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      Isn't it easy and so cool? Makes everything fall into place for the key of G.

  • @stevesorrell9835
    @stevesorrell9835 Месяц назад

    That is SO cool! Thank you. I'm doin' it tonight.

  • @mikebunner3498
    @mikebunner3498 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mark,
    I must agree with you that Mr. Billy G. is a guitar master. I had the honor of seeing ZZ in concert back in the 1970's. One of the best shows I ever attended!!! They were SO darn good!!! I recall not being able to hear Frank's drums. Then I listened to the album and low & behold Frank is a killer also!!!!! This is one fine band!!!!!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  11 месяцев назад

      That's great!

  • @thistime4you
    @thistime4you 2 года назад +1

    He didn't fool anyone. He was doing it before others, plain and simple

  • @TheRealDrJoey
    @TheRealDrJoey 2 года назад +1

    In the 70s I was in a bar band that just played Chuck Berry and Stones. There were a number of Stones tunes, notably Brown Sugar among them, that I could never get to sound quite right to my ears. When I found out Keef tunes in G a lot it was like the veil lifted. For awhile I even had a 2nd guitar, tuned to G, with no 6th string.
    If you figured this out yourself, your pretty smart, dude.

  • @mikemccourt6225
    @mikemccourt6225 2 года назад +1

    I play it in “double drop” tuning but your trick works nicely too

  • @robertdiehl1281
    @robertdiehl1281 4 месяца назад +1

    After all these years…what a great tip.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 2 года назад

    He’s so signaturely creative and masterful . YOU SOUND FANTASTIC… BINGO YOU GOT IT MARK .

  • @frankdouie9679
    @frankdouie9679 2 года назад

    as always a delicious little eye opener. Thanks!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

  • @richardfeynman8843
    @richardfeynman8843 Год назад +3

    I discovered this when I decided that I wanted to learn acoustics “Rocky Mountain High” and “Poems, Prayers, and Promises” by John Denver. When I watched some videos of him playing them, it was obvious that he had done the same thing on both songs, just tuning the low E down to a D. Everything went from impossible to totally simple for both songs. Works the same on this one, too.

  • @latfat
    @latfat Год назад

    Wonderful! Really appreciate this lightbulb moment. Have loved Billy for his ability to make complicated stuff sound simple but this was a revelation. Great video!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      Thanks! He sure did have the knack for doing that - making complex things simple.

  • @Joel_Powell
    @Joel_Powell Год назад +2

    Awesome - that makes total sense! I saw Billy live this year and sat in the third row directly in front of him. I was wondering how he could take his hand off the guitar and still hear a low G ringing! I thought he was just playing strings 2-3-4 open, but now I know the trick.
    Awesome!

  • @shannonjones3714
    @shannonjones3714 2 года назад +1

    I think he did it on Tush as well. I had seen a tab with it like that. Thank you so much for sharing this with us!

  • @Bogonavt
    @Bogonavt 2 года назад

    good thing youtube recommended me your channel

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      I'm glad too!! Thanks for watching!

  • @mightyluv
    @mightyluv 2 года назад +2

    Great tip, thanks. You always hear about dropped D, but never an inside string. Looking forward to trying it out!

  • @davidrunion7
    @davidrunion7 2 года назад +2

    Does it also work for waiting on the bus? If it does could you please making instructional video on it that's very cool

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +2

      Probably does, as they often do it as a medley. Great suggestion!

  • @rturney
    @rturney 2 года назад +6

    I've struggled with the same things on this song that you described. This is great! Thanks so much Mark!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      When it dawned on me, it all fell into place. For the key of G it's great!

    • @jb-vb8un
      @jb-vb8un 2 года назад

      in Hawaii, the gang refer to it as the " slack " tuning

  • @ronnieo6867
    @ronnieo6867 Год назад +1

    That’s awesome, great job. 👏👏👏

  • @JohnKeyser
    @JohnKeyser 7 месяцев назад

    Sweet. You give us so much in a few minutes!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  7 месяцев назад

      Great to hear. Thanks!

  • @marybethhempel9101
    @marybethhempel9101 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! loving your tricks and tips... in that order! lol! Thank you Mark! 🌠🌟😄💖

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  7 месяцев назад

      Glad you like them!

  • @chimster1234
    @chimster1234 2 года назад

    My mind is officially blown wide open now. Thanks!

  • @hammer159
    @hammer159 2 года назад +1

    Cheap Sunglasses has the one string change too, high e down to d and it makes that slide chord work

  • @MirurImage
    @MirurImage 2 года назад +3

    Yup, you got it right. On the album original I believe he played the Rhythm in open G (including the high E string and a different track for lead with standard tuning.
    It’s one of my fav ZZ Top songs as well.

  • @gregjandt2841
    @gregjandt2841 Год назад

    Thank You. You come across great and teach the subtlest simplest tricks like this and I was just about to learn this for my band. Now I go it!!! Thanks, Mark!!!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mccloysong
    @mccloysong 2 года назад +2

    Great discovery. These things were harder to find out in the days of LPs and no internet. But I've learned that if a part is difficult, chances are almost guaranteed there's an easier way than I learned it.

  • @jamessator5564
    @jamessator5564 2 года назад +1

    Very cool, I’m gonna have to try this!

  • @waynecribb4922
    @waynecribb4922 2 года назад

    That really sounds much better. Good job.

  • @johnklein4558
    @johnklein4558 Год назад

    Thanks Mark.
    Never would have thought of that trick!

  • @chuckminzenberger7590
    @chuckminzenberger7590 Год назад

    great video! Billy Gibbon' stuff is always so nuanced, its complicated as heck - and I always play that opening to the solo a double stop C and B-flat bending the B-flat up . . . such on add choice but very intense

  • @caleshtcincredibles
    @caleshtcincredibles 2 года назад

    Great trick sir I'm adopting this one for sure !

  • @johnnielsen5675
    @johnnielsen5675 2 года назад

    Hats off to YOU! You make me wanto learn the guitar,.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Man, you made my day!

  • @travisbrady1477
    @travisbrady1477 2 года назад

    You do a great job teaching hats off to you

  • @jonginder5494
    @jonginder5494 2 года назад +2

    Tres Hombres I think was a huge influence on AC/DC. Ride On is based on this chord pattern, and the title “Ride On” comes from the outro lyrics of waitin for the bus. Makes me think that Ride On was born from a jam on those songs. AC/DC song Decible is basically the waiting for the bus riff. For mine Angus Young and Billy have the tastiest touch of all hard rock guitarists.

  • @stilz0
    @stilz0 2 года назад

    Sweet trick! Thanks, Mark.

  • @rcjr.7725
    @rcjr.7725 2 года назад

    Tricks of the trade thanks for adding a new tool in my toolbox love this song love me some ZZ Top

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

  • @chrispfeifer7628
    @chrispfeifer7628 2 года назад +2

    Billy used super light gauge strings also. Usually .008's . There's a rig rundown on premier guitar showing his stuff

  • @optimus3305
    @optimus3305 2 года назад

    First time I’ve seen your channel but I play an HSS sunburst strat myself and I like it already!

  • @john.john.johnny
    @john.john.johnny 2 года назад

    Great advice on this song!!

  • @terryclark7700
    @terryclark7700 2 года назад

    wow, awesome, will certainly give this a try, many thanks

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      You're welcome. Go for it, it's fun and easy. Thanks for watching!

  • @jakethomas3205
    @jakethomas3205 Год назад +3

    Great stuff Mark.I was also blown away when I heard Brothers and Sisters back in my student days in Cardiff University in Wales.The Brothers only came to the UK on two occasions and I saw them both times;the last time was 1991 with Warren.They were incredible on both occasions.It is a shame that a lot of people this side of the pond do not know much about them.I preferred Dickey's style to Duane's (just my preference) and Dickey is one of my major influences as a guitar player.keep up the good work.

  • @Mr4nd3rs0n100
    @Mr4nd3rs0n100 2 года назад

    I love your tone!!!

  • @kbradford2270
    @kbradford2270 8 месяцев назад

    Just called this video bro. I've been playing this song for years.
    But never quite could figure what was going opened up a whole another door thanks, dude?

  • @PaulWilliams-xz3mz
    @PaulWilliams-xz3mz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great tip, ...I've liked and subscribed, and hello from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks and welcome aboard! Glad to have you here!

  • @toddmcintosh83
    @toddmcintosh83 2 года назад

    Thanks! Very cool little trick!😎

  • @RobKwalheim
    @RobKwalheim 2 года назад

    I always liked a good Squire guitar. This one sounds great, looks like it plays fine and looks great too. Thanks for the tips.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      You bet. And yes, it plays amazing!

  • @markstacey2906
    @markstacey2906 2 года назад

    Good stuff Mate...Thanks for sharing can't wait to have a go....

  • @jyuke9955
    @jyuke9955 2 года назад

    I tuned the low E up to a G. Makes it easier to play for me and a fuller sound. Just found your channel and subbed. Thx.

  • @discardiac
    @discardiac Год назад

    That squier sounds great

  • @rockhoundingeasternwashing5308

    Good one. I'll try that out. Thanks!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      You bet. Thanks for watching!

  • @wcrimi
    @wcrimi Месяц назад

    Love this one

  • @Jeff_H_the_Guitarist
    @Jeff_H_the_Guitarist Год назад

    Brilliant! Thanks for this secret unlocked!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

  • @richardmalouin9085
    @richardmalouin9085 2 года назад

    Wo, what a trick you shared, thank you😊
    Merci

  • @johnskerlec9663
    @johnskerlec9663 2 года назад

    Thanks Mark. Great explanation. These are the things I would never think of, and I've been playing (learning) 50 years.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Glad to help! Rock on!!

    • @donmikler
      @donmikler 2 года назад

      Me too. The old Jesus just left my vernacular

  • @jbz_ez
    @jbz_ez Год назад +1

    Been doing this for gigs for the last 30 years. Mostly bc I’m lazy 🙂. But just about every stones song, delbert song, or black crowes song, i drop just the A string. Super convenient. And good enough is good enough for rock n roll 🤘

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  Год назад +1

      Yes, you got it. Sounds great, works great, and it only takes 2 seconds or so. People who insist on, say removing the low E-string to play Keith ... they either are going to gigs with a ton of gear or they're not gigging.
      This is a great compromise solution, and it's so simple.

  • @trioguitar
    @trioguitar 2 года назад

    A very elegant solution!

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 2 года назад +1

    That is super cool! Rock on Mark, killer lesson and in 5 minutes no less.

  • @peaceman7321
    @peaceman7321 Год назад

    Embarrassing?! YEP! I just learned about Drop G after 40 years of playing!! DUH! Perfect, man! Thanks! Loving the channel - just found it! Here's a tip since you opened my eyes to drop G (lol): try that dissonant lead lick (after the walk-down lick) here: 2nd string/11th fret; 1st string/8th fret. One whole note apart! Really throws you off balance & adds some serious BLUES vibe! Keep up the great content!

  • @breakrite9785
    @breakrite9785 2 года назад

    Awesome. You broke the code! Very helpful.

  • @fritzmuller8246
    @fritzmuller8246 2 года назад

    Mark . Never seen you before , but what a great guy you are Sir . Your humble positive teaching technique cannot be taught . You've either got it or you don't . Man you're a lucky guy , I'll pop in a lot more .

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Welcome Fritz! Glad we connected!

  • @leroylem51
    @leroylem51 Год назад +1

    great idea!

  • @ottomattix86
    @ottomattix86 2 года назад

    I dig your teaching methods.

  • @mr.fenderb.bender512
    @mr.fenderb.bender512 2 года назад

    Brilliant. Thanks Mark

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      You're welcome ... and thank you!!

  • @robsgarage4746
    @robsgarage4746 Год назад

    nice lesson. thank you for the vid!

  • @mikerodericks1634
    @mikerodericks1634 2 года назад

    Mark, you're great. I love J J L C but could never quite get it right. But now, because of your very astute solution, when I play it, it sounds perfect. Many thanks Man!!!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Thanks Mike! Glad to help.

  • @fonagel
    @fonagel 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome. Wish I had found out that earlier.... Also one of my favorites from ZZ Top....Next to the underrated Just Got Back From Baby's.....

  • @mbrownie22
    @mbrownie22 2 года назад

    Almost 100k congratulations we’ll deserved and long overdue,

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Thanks!! Almost there!

  • @jcwm01
    @jcwm01 2 года назад

    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Dan-zq5wt
    @Dan-zq5wt 2 года назад +1

    You should do a video on the solo. Deceptively simple. So interesting and with those crazy pick slides!

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +1

      Good idea! Hey, what do you know? Check it out! ruclips.net/video/KpgsEt9gOss/видео.html

  • @billhillyer334
    @billhillyer334 2 года назад

    Every day i learn not many i don't 💛

  • @camswar
    @camswar 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video, very well done.

  • @dirkgibbens377
    @dirkgibbens377 2 года назад +21

    Hey Mark! Great video as always. I had heard about tuning the a string down to G several years ago, and it completely unlocks the song. 👍
    One tip… That little lick that you play up the neck is incorrect. It’s simply eighth fret on the first string and 11th fret on the second string. Really gives that strong dissonance that stands out. Add slight vibrato on the second string only. Give it a shot.

    • @MarkZabel
      @MarkZabel  2 года назад +3

      Thanks.

    • @ronanzann4851
      @ronanzann4851 2 года назад +2

      Thank you...I was hoping someone would point that out.

    • @horsevinyl
      @horsevinyl 2 года назад

      And be sure to add the g on the 12th fret of the g- string😄, a little bit of a stretch but worth it.

    • @teleclasster
      @teleclasster Год назад

      Came here to say that. Otherwise I never thought of tuning down the A string...awesome!

    • @nxs0152
      @nxs0152 3 месяца назад

      I thought it was the 9th fret on the 1st string (C#) not the 8th fret which would be C.