The Graybeard engineer retired and a few weeks later the Big Machine broke down, which was essential to the company’s revenue. The Manager couldn’t get the machine to work again so the company called in Graybeard as an independent consultant. Graybeard agrees. He walks into the factory, takes a look at the Big Machine, grabs a sledge hammer, and whacks the machine once whereupon the machine starts right up. Graybeard leaves and the company is making money again. The next day Manager receives a bill from Graybeard for $5,000. Manager is furious at the price and refuses to pay. Graybeard assures him that it’s a fair price. Manager retorts that if it’s a fair price Graybeard won’t mind itemizing the bill. Graybeard agrees that this is a fair request and complies. The new, itemized bill reads…. Hammer: $5 Knowing where to hit the machine with hammer: $4995
I understand paying high dollar for things like the IIT and even the whole unit. But why on earth is all the mounting hardware associated with it so freaking expensive? Why on earth does a G24 cost $400, bridge cost $1000, and why did a tiny little dovetail to mum adapter from mod armory cost $100?!?!?!
That's because of the time it takes for a cnc machine to make it. The stuff Wilcox and other companies make have very tight tolerances, I'm no expert nor work for Wilcox but I would estimate that their multi-axis cnc machines price them about $75 to $120 or higher per hour of machining in order for them to turn a profit. Combined with the several hours it takes to machine the parts, final assembly, and skilled laborers that produce it in the US the prices make sense.
It's mainly because not many people are going to buy them since most people don't have night vision. So a company making these things need to make the profit of 10 products in the sale of one. As you suspect, it doesn't cost nearly the amount to actually manufacture the accessories. Heck, surefire is way overpriced for what it is these days. That's why more people are encroaching on their territory. I've machined my own bridges but frankly few people have machining capabilities so if you don't want to learn it for other stuff, then it wouldn't be cost effective to make your own.
If you think about it, we are actually paying MORE than mil pays for the items, because our taxes have already funded the purchase of the first units for mil, then WE buy them commercially, which is taxed again to buy MORE sets for mil. I also can’t remember where I read this but I will try to find it, but another addition to the subject of government contracts is that once a price is agreed upon for said government contract, the company isn’t allowed to sell to the public for less than what the government pays per item, so as long as those contracts keep getting renewed for said price, the prices will remain high. Programs like Elbit’s XLS line are an amazing value because you can get some seriously high spec tubes, if you’re willing to deal with a couple blems or possibly one spec that fell out of Omni standards. Since it isn’t technically “mil spec” they are allowed to sell at a discounted price. I’m not aware of L3 doing the same, but they should if they aren’t.
Great video! question: With your NOD experience, assuming roughly the same budget range, would you recommend a high quality single tube (i.e. L3 unfilmed white w/ high FOM) or duals with lower end tubes (i.e. RNVG w/ photis green basic tubes). It seems you can get into both systems for roughly the 5k range but Im not sure which is more of a priority quantity vs quality in this type of instance. I live in and am LEO in urban/suburban south florida so that would be my main usage environment
NV is really not expensive. Compared to the $$$ people spend on guns, cars, phones, travel, education, and recreation etc, ~3k to have a superpower is not crazy.
Can you please provide some guidance? Choosing between two l3 unfilmed with the following stats. Which would you choose? Option 1 Photo Sen 1890 EBI 0.2 SNR 30.5 Center Res 72 Halo 0.85 FOM 2200 Or Option 2 Photo Sen 2250 EBI 0.55 SNR 34.5 Center Res 64 Halo 0.75 FOM 2200
Number 2 all the way. Higher photo sensitivity, higher SNR, and smaller halo. Yeah, you're getting a slightly less desirable EBI but given the other differences, totally worth it.
Apologies if you get this question a lot but perhaps it can help others as well. I’m a newcomer to NV and have decided to purchase a pvs 14 mono. Your vids have been helpful but there’s a lot of nuances while shopping around. If budget were not a constraint, what is the optimal features/specs to seek? So far I’ve gathered that I want either a gen 3 or 3+ (not sure of differences); white phosphorous; manual gain control; unfilmed with EBI of 1.0 or less?; autogated. Is any of that misguided or have I missed something important to look for? Is it important to pay attention to L3 Omni VIIi vs. photonis 4g echo vs Elbit Omni VIII vs. ATN or other variants in the product titles? Thanks in advance for any additional insights you care to offer! Thanks for the great content as well
For a typical nv company that sells to both civs and mil, what % of their business goes to each group these days? I imagine that this breakdown has changed over the years as you have said.
Digital circuits like microprocessors are much more difficult and expensive to manufacture, but they aren't as highly regulated, have many more competitors, use relatively low cost substrates and there is a huge economy of scales in making them. Billions of processors vs tens or hundreds of thousands of image intensifier tubes.
@@atacorion your smartass answer wasn’t all that smart. Child labor doesn’t make microprocessors. Those factories are giant clean room facilities. The “aren’t as highly regulated” portion of my comment alluded to the cost savings available by allowing cheaper foreign fabrication. No ITAR issues. I think high tech should be even more closely guarded than NVGs, but alas it’s not directly ear fighting so it gets overlooked.
@@jhalscott the components are built assembled into whatever digital tech it ends up being from TV's to cell phones to computers etc by child labor. Silicon is much more widely available as a semi conductor material than GaAS, thats why you can make billions of them from many entities thus driving the cost down along with a wider lower paid labor force....not so much the case with intensifier tubes. the fact that Digital tech has made such leaps in every sector of tech yet still cannot compete in the low light arena mean Analog tech will remain king for at least several more years. When Digital tech takes over the stuff available to the military will fall under ITAR and be ridiculously expensive.
@@atacorion yeah, I get the child labor in assembly, but the economy of scales, regulation, etc. that I mentioned all referred to the fabrication process, not assembly. We already know that US assembly of everything drives up costs. Try ordering US made versions of the same products. It is insane the cost difference. I'm sure a good portion of the tech has been stolen already so we'll likely see foreign competitive options for better, or worse, in the next decade.
If a person makes a want such as NV a priority then they will figure out a way to afford it. Most of them have 10 or more budget rifles with some sort of optic on all them. I had a want for NV and sold off not needed items to make it happen and bought dual tubes. Good toys cost
Latency can be improved. The problem is that digital sensors are not as sensitive as the analog intensifiers. It impacts latency because the chips need more time to gather the light. Advances in materials tech need to be made like the black silicon of SiOnyx.
The other factor is just because digital matches IIT performance, doesn't mean it will be cheaper. Sionyx is encountering that where their highest end model is getting awfully close to the price of a gen 2 unit, and yet not quite gen 2 quality in rural terrain. Personally though I would pay more for an equal digital because digital is so much more durable than IIT, less need to baby them.
Yes but if R & D costs so much they're should be high quality cheap knock offs. It's just the market keeping it at a high price which makes knock off brands want to start high also.
I own a small business, always had a drive to make money but money has never been important to me.. my love of night vision and all things firearms, defiantly drives me to make more. I’ve never been the guy to care about the latest and greatest. Always had an older phone never went out to buy new stuff but when it comes to night vision I’m a fucking addict. TNVC is an awesome company, talk about a badass job. Imagine building or marketing night vision for a living
I would say like this. It was at the very beginning, the night vision itself is demanded by the government. NV technology at that time was expensive to develop and to have an actual usable product out. And the government is willing to paying for that, which drives them to pay what the NV company says to the govt. Time flies by, in the 21st century, the society gets wealthier, and of course, more demanded on goods, the NV want their cakes to the civilians market too. They have their target buyers' backgrounds very well, they know the buyers gonna pay premium, because it's affordable, and think the way there should be. This is exactly what NV industries and so on other related manufacturers want. The technology itself is advancing, the cost of manufacturing the older stuff is getting decrease a lot every year. What we are actually using nowadays in the civilian market is already in use of the military over the past years. I think the cost of the device and the manufacturing cost itself are way lower than they should, and the NV companies are getting tons of marginal profits through the factors I mentioned. It shouldn't be selling like 5 digits for a set, at least a half of the price is absolutely targeting peoples think it's so "amazing" to necessary to be that "expensive". However, I think it won't be changing due to the government wants to rule the access to that device not to be so open that you can walk over a store and buy once, and the industries want profits too. I would say like this if you ask me this question: "Why they want to do that if there's already open to the public." I would reply that yeah, a machine gun also opens to the public too, but how many people are actually owning them, and on the government sides, it would be a nightmare, everyone got what they have now. They can't risk doing that. They think that's "dangerous". And it likely would be written on a fucking law books about what units/device we can't get as a civilian, and even if we can, we gonna pay a heck of cash on top of that. But, anyway, night vision goggles are a gateway to the next level of combat. Uh. That irony.
There are a lot of military developed products on the market and the prices have come down as technology has gotten better depending on the demand and volume produced. The list is almost endless from microwave ovens to duct tape to bug spray to synthetic rubber/synthetic oil to nylon to GPS and on and on. Costs of such products have come down over time as the technology has gotten better not only of the product itself but to produce it so its therefore cheaper to produce. Night vision visible light IR or infrared technology has been around a long time now and enough advancements or generations in it so its costs should be lower than they are considering that thermal heat IRT vision is now used more extensively and its costs are still far in excess of night vision.
Most people don't believe digital will ever catch up, being one of the few fields where analog tech will always beat digital. And in my opinion, I am inclined to agree. While analog NV is instantaneous, the delay for digital will always be there to some degree. If you've ever shot with thermals, think of it like that, but instead of just the optic having a slight delay from what you see to what actually is happening, its all of your vision. Other reason why analog thermal exists, as an expensive add on for NV.
Don't wait. Even if digital replaces analog chances are it will be far more expensive than analog before the savings from ease of manufacturing starts kicking in. Also with inflation, costs are only going to go higher.
@@valiant545 thermal clip on imagers for night vision are not analog tech, they are microbolometers and are a form of digital camera, with ultra low latency.
@@apollo9x19 Yeah pretty sure I just had a typo and wrote analog instead of digital. I'm aware that ECOTI's are digital overlays, and it works well enough in conjunction with analog tubes. I still prefer a dedicated thermal though, I can't make out any detail from ECOTI's at distance. Just a blob.
Hey I would like a knowledgeable person to supply some answers I have for NV. I saw Mr guns video where he was wrong on a lot of things. I caught some and as I was going through comments I saw yours. You know your stuff. So I have subscribed to your channel and would be will to pay you for your time to answer my questions. Obviously I know your not the “BE ALL,END ALL” expert that’s knows EVERYTHING about NV but you do know alot and thing you could help me. What’s the best way to contact you sir?
oh man, i made it to :48 seconds. You got out a whiteboard and your first big brain reason is R&D - that taxpayer money already funded 40+ years ago is the reason for expensve. Yeah, thats why TNVC charges an arm and a leg. So L3 can make their money back and not take such a big loss on intensifier tubes. Comical. I refuse to watch any more, but hopefully you cover the real reasons. "Government items are often over priced due to what the manufacturer charges the government" "This is cause the government doesn't care about your tax money - as long as everyone gets a bigger slice of it than you" "Companies gatekeep small outfits that are willing to do things closer to cost" "Preferential relationships with tube suppliers stagnate market competition"
I feel like it’d be so cool tho to have one. If it didnt cost so fuckin much. But like could you imagine biking at night with NVG’s or just to have even on a shelf? That’d be sick.
What if Silicon was used in the place of Gallium Arsenide? Man, if I was more studious I could probably go work for L3 and find out. Or at least pitch it to them..
LARPers is where the real money is at. No cost is too high when it comes to looking cool while you light up a bunch of kids in the dark with your DTNVGs and air soft block II clone
Why are they so expensive? Because they can't charge the consumer less than their government contract and the government will buy them regardless of the price 🤣 So anything sold to the government will come with government inflated 10x+ the markup. There's also almost zero competition.
down and dirty way to figure out why it's expensive is to look at the specs(weight, no latency, sensitivity, battery life, etc.) and think of a device that could even do 2 of those things to the same ability. some people get motion sick with VR at 90fps so what'll happen when you stick a 60 fps camera onto your head and try not to eat the floor. also all of the reasons you mentioned. sometimes the poors are just mad about their spending habits.
"The fact it is analog tech" This is why ^. And this is why digital night vision is the way to go. There are already good digital nightvision tech available(and no, I'm not talking about the aurora), just no portable ones that can be head mounted. Give it a few more years, less than a decadr, heck, maybe 5-6 years even, and well have good, useable night vision portable enough to be head mounted.
I dont mind Larpers or larping per say, matter of fact I support the 2A community and believe citizens should have access to the same tech and training that the mil has and uses if they can afford it.
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The Graybeard engineer retired and a few weeks later the Big Machine broke down, which was essential to the company’s revenue. The Manager couldn’t get the machine to work again so the company called in Graybeard as an independent consultant.
Graybeard agrees. He walks into the factory, takes a look at the Big Machine, grabs a sledge hammer, and whacks the machine once whereupon the machine starts right up. Graybeard leaves and the company is making money again.
The next day Manager receives a bill from Graybeard for $5,000. Manager is furious at the price and refuses to pay. Graybeard assures him that it’s a fair price. Manager retorts that if it’s a fair price Graybeard won’t mind itemizing the bill. Graybeard agrees that this is a fair request and complies.
The new, itemized bill reads….
Hammer: $5
Knowing where to hit the machine with hammer: $4995
A story as old as time itself. And with as many iterations as that implies.
Ol Greybeard should have gotten his check signed before he touched Big Machine. JMO. :D
I understand paying high dollar for things like the IIT and even the whole unit. But why on earth is all the mounting hardware associated with it so freaking expensive? Why on earth does a G24 cost $400, bridge cost $1000, and why did a tiny little dovetail to mum adapter from mod armory cost $100?!?!?!
That's because of the time it takes for a cnc machine to make it. The stuff Wilcox and other companies make have very tight tolerances, I'm no expert nor work for Wilcox but I would estimate that their multi-axis cnc machines price them about $75 to $120 or higher per hour of machining in order for them to turn a profit. Combined with the several hours it takes to machine the parts, final assembly, and skilled laborers that produce it in the US the prices make sense.
Buy some machinery and undercut them if you can do it cheaper.
It's mainly because not many people are going to buy them since most people don't have night vision. So a company making these things need to make the profit of 10 products in the sale of one. As you suspect, it doesn't cost nearly the amount to actually manufacture the accessories. Heck, surefire is way overpriced for what it is these days. That's why more people are encroaching on their territory.
I've machined my own bridges but frankly few people have machining capabilities so if you don't want to learn it for other stuff, then it wouldn't be cost effective to make your own.
Demand and supply.
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If you think about it, we are actually paying MORE than mil pays for the items, because our taxes have already funded the purchase of the first units for mil, then WE buy them commercially, which is taxed again to buy MORE sets for mil.
I also can’t remember where I read this but I will try to find it, but another addition to the subject of government contracts is that once a price is agreed upon for said government contract, the company isn’t allowed to sell to the public for less than what the government pays per item, so as long as those contracts keep getting renewed for said price, the prices will remain high.
Programs like Elbit’s XLS line are an amazing value because you can get some seriously high spec tubes, if you’re willing to deal with a couple blems or possibly one spec that fell out of Omni standards. Since it isn’t technically “mil spec” they are allowed to sell at a discounted price. I’m not aware of L3 doing the same, but they should if they aren’t.
Great video! question: With your NOD experience, assuming roughly the same budget range, would you recommend a high quality single tube (i.e. L3 unfilmed white w/ high FOM) or duals with lower end tubes (i.e. RNVG w/ photis green basic tubes). It seems you can get into both systems for roughly the 5k range but Im not sure which is more of a priority quantity vs quality in this type of instance. I live in and am LEO in urban/suburban south florida so that would be my main usage environment
Can the eye distinguish the difference between .2 ebi and .6?
NV is really not expensive. Compared to the $$$ people spend on guns, cars, phones, travel, education, and recreation etc, ~3k to have a superpower is not crazy.
Yeah and then you have graphics cards.
3k is the very very low end. 10-15k is average, 50k is high end.
@@mouthbreather280 What night vision is 50k??
@@dtp0119 GPNVG’s, mind you I’m speaking in Canadian dollars which is what I use.
Could you do a video/white board of knowledge on Cathode Poisoning/ion barrier film?
Can you please provide some guidance? Choosing between two l3 unfilmed with the following stats. Which would you choose?
Option 1
Photo Sen 1890
EBI 0.2
SNR 30.5
Center Res 72
Halo 0.85
FOM 2200
Or
Option 2
Photo Sen 2250
EBI 0.55
SNR 34.5
Center Res 64
Halo 0.75
FOM 2200
Number 2 all the way. Higher photo sensitivity, higher SNR, and smaller halo. Yeah, you're getting a slightly less desirable EBI but given the other differences, totally worth it.
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Apologies if you get this question a lot but perhaps it can help others as well. I’m a newcomer to NV and have decided to purchase a pvs 14 mono. Your vids have been helpful but there’s a lot of nuances while shopping around. If budget were not a constraint, what is the optimal features/specs to seek? So far I’ve gathered that I want either a gen 3 or 3+ (not sure of differences); white phosphorous; manual gain control; unfilmed with EBI of 1.0 or less?; autogated. Is any of that misguided or have I missed something important to look for? Is it important to pay attention to L3 Omni VIIi vs. photonis 4g echo vs Elbit Omni VIII vs. ATN or other variants in the product titles? Thanks in advance for any additional insights you care to offer! Thanks for the great content as well
For a typical nv company that sells to both civs and mil, what % of their business goes to each group these days? I imagine that this breakdown has changed over the years as you have said.
there are no typical companies and typical percentages
@@atacorion Fair enough!
@@atacorion Would you be able to give a percentage for tnvc for the year 2020?
@@maxkornbluth4055 not a chance
Digital circuits like microprocessors are much more difficult and expensive to manufacture, but they aren't as highly regulated, have many more competitors, use relatively low cost substrates and there is a huge economy of scales in making them. Billions of processors vs tens or hundreds of thousands of image intensifier tubes.
Is that why they are made in foreign countries by child labor and much easily sourced materials?
@@atacorion your smartass answer wasn’t all that smart. Child labor doesn’t make microprocessors. Those factories are giant clean room facilities. The “aren’t as highly regulated” portion of my comment alluded to the cost savings available by allowing cheaper foreign fabrication. No ITAR issues. I think high tech should be even more closely guarded than NVGs, but alas it’s not directly ear fighting so it gets overlooked.
@@jhalscott the components are built assembled into whatever digital tech it ends up being from TV's to cell phones to computers etc by child labor. Silicon is much more widely available as a semi conductor material than GaAS, thats why you can make billions of them from many entities thus driving the cost down along with a wider lower paid labor force....not so much the case with intensifier tubes.
the fact that Digital tech has made such leaps in every sector of tech yet still cannot compete in the low light arena mean Analog tech will remain king for at least several more years. When Digital tech takes over the stuff available to the military will fall under ITAR and be ridiculously expensive.
@@atacorion yeah, I get the child labor in assembly, but the economy of scales, regulation, etc. that I mentioned all referred to the fabrication process, not assembly. We already know that US assembly of everything drives up costs. Try ordering US made versions of the same products. It is insane the cost difference. I'm sure a good portion of the tech has been stolen already so we'll likely see foreign competitive options for better, or worse, in the next decade.
Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
If a person makes a want such as NV a priority then they will figure out a way to afford it. Most of them have 10 or more budget rifles with some sort of optic on all them. I had a want for NV and sold off not needed items to make it happen and bought dual tubes. Good toys cost
Sam, I’d be interested to know how long you think it will take for digital to catch or surpass analog nv?
years and years
Even the state of the art tech they just tested on helicopter wasn't good enough. Latency is the biggest issue with digital
Latency can be improved. The problem is that digital sensors are not as sensitive as the analog intensifiers. It impacts latency because the chips need more time to gather the light. Advances in materials tech need to be made like the black silicon of SiOnyx.
The other factor is just because digital matches IIT performance, doesn't mean it will be cheaper. Sionyx is encountering that where their highest end model is getting awfully close to the price of a gen 2 unit, and yet not quite gen 2 quality in rural terrain.
Personally though I would pay more for an equal digital because digital is so much more durable than IIT, less need to baby them.
@@The_John_Galt
What about the latency in human brains.
No one seems to care about that.
Thanks for the knowledge on the subject. Your stop being poor shirt would have put the icing on this cake.
Is the L3 unfilled the best Tube available to civilians for a pvs-14?
Yes but if R & D costs so much they're should be high quality cheap knock offs. It's just the market keeping it at a high price which makes knock off brands want to start high also.
never mind my kids found it for me
thanks for talking so loud to me!
Do a video on thermal scopes!
Do a video on chubby clapping
compare a pvs14 cost to a nightforce scope. Then it makes sense
Would seriously recommend a lapel mic to record speaking audio with
itll happen one of these days, but not for a few months
I own a small business, always had a drive to make money but money has never been important to me.. my love of night vision and all things firearms, defiantly drives me to make more. I’ve never been the guy to care about the latest and greatest. Always had an older phone never went out to buy new stuff but when it comes to night vision I’m a fucking addict. TNVC is an awesome company, talk about a badass job. Imagine building or marketing night vision for a living
I would say like this. It was at the very beginning, the night vision itself is demanded by the government. NV technology at that time was expensive to develop and to have an actual usable product out. And the government is willing to paying for that, which drives them to pay what the NV company says to the govt. Time flies by, in the 21st century, the society gets wealthier, and of course, more demanded on goods, the NV want their cakes to the civilians market too. They have their target buyers' backgrounds very well, they know the buyers gonna pay premium, because it's affordable, and think the way there should be. This is exactly what NV industries and so on other related manufacturers want. The technology itself is advancing, the cost of manufacturing the older stuff is getting decrease a lot every year. What we are actually using nowadays in the civilian market is already in use of the military over the past years. I think the cost of the device and the manufacturing cost itself are way lower than they should, and the NV companies are getting tons of marginal profits through the factors I mentioned. It shouldn't be selling like 5 digits for a set, at least a half of the price is absolutely targeting peoples think it's so "amazing" to necessary to be that "expensive". However, I think it won't be changing due to the government wants to rule the access to that device not to be so open that you can walk over a store and buy once, and the industries want profits too. I would say like this if you ask me this question: "Why they want to do that if there's already open to the public." I would reply that yeah, a machine gun also opens to the public too, but how many people are actually owning them, and on the government sides, it would be a nightmare, everyone got what they have now. They can't risk doing that. They think that's "dangerous". And it likely would be written on a fucking law books about what units/device we can't get as a civilian, and even if we can, we gonna pay a heck of cash on top of that. But, anyway, night vision goggles are a gateway to the next level of combat. Uh. That irony.
There are a lot of military developed products on the market and the prices have come down as technology has gotten better depending on the demand and volume produced. The list is almost endless from microwave ovens to duct tape to bug spray to synthetic rubber/synthetic oil to nylon to GPS and on and on. Costs of such products have come down over time as the technology has gotten better not only of the product itself but to produce it so its therefore cheaper to produce. Night vision visible light IR or infrared technology has been around a long time now and enough advancements or generations in it so its costs should be lower than they are considering that thermal heat IRT vision is now used more extensively and its costs are still far in excess of night vision.
How far are we away from digital? If I'm just dipping my foot in the pond should I wait for digital cuz analog is on the way out?
Most people don't believe digital will ever catch up, being one of the few fields where analog tech will always beat digital. And in my opinion, I am inclined to agree. While analog NV is instantaneous, the delay for digital will always be there to some degree. If you've ever shot with thermals, think of it like that, but instead of just the optic having a slight delay from what you see to what actually is happening, its all of your vision. Other reason why analog thermal exists, as an expensive add on for NV.
Don't wait. Even if digital replaces analog chances are it will be far more expensive than analog before the savings from ease of manufacturing starts kicking in. Also with inflation, costs are only going to go higher.
@@valiant545 thermal clip on imagers for night vision are not analog tech, they are microbolometers and are a form of digital camera, with ultra low latency.
@@apollo9x19 Yeah pretty sure I just had a typo and wrote analog instead of digital. I'm aware that ECOTI's are digital overlays, and it works well enough in conjunction with analog tubes. I still prefer a dedicated thermal though, I can't make out any detail from ECOTI's at distance. Just a blob.
Hey I would like a knowledgeable person to supply some answers I have for NV. I saw Mr guns video where he was wrong on a lot of things. I caught some and as I was going through comments I saw yours. You know your stuff. So I have subscribed to your channel and would be will to pay you for your time to answer my questions. Obviously I know your not the “BE ALL,END ALL” expert that’s knows EVERYTHING about NV but you do know alot and thing you could help me. What’s the best way to contact you sir?
because its cool.
Video over.
oh man, i made it to :48 seconds.
You got out a whiteboard and your first big brain reason is R&D - that taxpayer money already funded 40+ years ago is the reason for expensve. Yeah, thats why TNVC charges an arm and a leg. So L3 can make their money back and not take such a big loss on intensifier tubes. Comical.
I refuse to watch any more, but hopefully you cover the real reasons.
"Government items are often over priced due to what the manufacturer charges the government"
"This is cause the government doesn't care about your tax money - as long as everyone gets a bigger slice of it than you"
"Companies gatekeep small outfits that are willing to do things closer to cost"
"Preferential relationships with tube suppliers stagnate market competition"
i guess it really is silent how about some captions/subtitles?
I feel like it’d be so cool tho to have one. If it didnt cost so fuckin much. But like could you imagine biking at night with NVG’s or just to have even on a shelf? That’d be sick.
Off topic, but do you still teach classes for TNVC?
I’ve never taught classes for TNVC, I teach classes for Greenline Tactical and Warrior Poet Society
Well. Dang. My bad.
Hey Sam, I will be giving you a call this week tp place an order!!!
UAPs are observable with nvg
What if Silicon was used in the place of Gallium Arsenide? Man, if I was more studious I could probably go work for L3 and find out. Or at least pitch it to them..
I talk about that in my other videos
“I feel as though this is a trap question”.
Can you come teach a class in SoCal 🥺 I have a range for ya :)
I actually do enjoy coming out to CA, if you are interested in hosting a class get in touch with Don Edwards over at Greenline Tactical.
LARPers is where the real money is at. No cost is too high when it comes to looking cool while you light up a bunch of kids in the dark with your DTNVGs and air soft block II clone
I save my money wait for homeland security or leo with good nvgs to take 4 inches below 2 green dots
R&D is a non issue. The government/tax payers paid for it decades ago.
No one wants to listen to comments like this though, it’s the elitism that keeps the prices high.
“Big brain thinker” is going to supplant “jogger” in the vernacular
Why are they so expensive? Because they can't charge the consumer less than their government contract and the government will buy them regardless of the price 🤣
So anything sold to the government will come with government inflated 10x+ the markup.
There's also almost zero competition.
Get some.
Reverse engineering certain aspects of Alien tech discovered decades ago isn’t cheap 😉
So no real reason to pay that much good to know
Why is NV so expensive? Because it fucks....that's why.
down and dirty way to figure out why it's expensive is to look at the specs(weight, no latency, sensitivity, battery life, etc.) and think of a device that could even do 2 of those things to the same ability. some people get motion sick with VR at 90fps so what'll happen when you stick a 60 fps camera onto your head and try not to eat the floor. also all of the reasons you mentioned. sometimes the poors are just mad about their spending habits.
"The fact it is analog tech"
This is why ^.
And this is why digital night vision is the way to go. There are already good digital nightvision tech available(and no, I'm not talking about the aurora), just no portable ones that can be head mounted.
Give it a few more years, less than a decadr, heck, maybe 5-6 years even, and well have good, useable night vision portable enough to be head mounted.
I heard the same exact thing 10 years ago
@@atacorion hey, one can STILL hope. lol
Or a self proclaimed larper
I dont mind Larpers or larping per say, matter of fact I support the 2A community and believe citizens should have access to the same tech and training that the mil has and uses if they can afford it.