How Arming Ukraine Exposed Cracks in the U.S. Defense Supply Chain | WSJ

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
  • The inability of U.S. defense contractors to quickly replenish weaponry such as missiles and munitions for Ukraine has raised questions about the capability of America’s defense industry and led Pentagon officials to argue that industry consolidation has gone too far.
    Illustration: Adele Morgan
    0:00 The U.S. defense sector is facing supply chain issues
    1:34 Why can’t the U.S arm Ukrainians faster?
    4:15 How American supply chains weren’t prepared for the Ukraine War
    6:50 Can a merger of two large contractors aid in the production of Javelins?
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  • @wsj
    @wsj  Год назад +8

    The Wagner Group has become the face of the Russian assault in Ukraine.
    Our documentary, Shadow Men: Inside Russia’s Secret War Company reveals how the Russian private military company hides the flow of riches and resources that ultimately connect to the Kremlin: ruclips.net/video/EMXnJMCoFYI/видео.html

  • @stevenobrien3722
    @stevenobrien3722 Год назад +1145

    It’s actually really scary stuff when you realize that we went from over 50 primary contractors down to only five. It’s very similar to what happened in the baby formula industry when there was really only one supplier left and we ran out of baby formula nationwide. Very risky stuff.

    • @OlafRooster
      @OlafRooster Год назад +16

      But wasnt that exactly what you voted for

    • @buddhasdisciple4935
      @buddhasdisciple4935 Год назад +7

      If you had a cow, its milk could feed your baby too ! No need to depend on ANY industrial supplier or any baby formula !!

    • @yfelwulf
      @yfelwulf Год назад

      50% of Javlin and Stingers have failed to work fact is THE US Army admits trained US troops get around 19% hits not kills hits making Javlin near useless the M777 Artillery has been slammed by Ukraine as poor quality and breaks down daily in fact Ukraine claims ALL RUSSIAN MADE WEAPONS ARE SUPERIOR TO US MADE. The problem with Israelistan 🇺🇲 is weapons are produced to mskr money the 60% functionality allowed means weapons as long as they work 60% of the time its ACCEPTABLE the B35 Kamakhazi barely makes 54% line ready full of faults the F22 Craptor is even worse. Israelistan has not produced a working weapon in over 2 decades Zumwalt destroyers 23 billion absolutely useless. Patriot last seen attacking its own launch site. Iron Dome thrown away as completely useless and on it goes.

    • @volvo24091
      @volvo24091 Год назад +12

      It is called the end of empire.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf Год назад +41

      Monopolies are bad for everyone, including the monopolies. Its not about increasing wealth, its about consolidating power.

  • @nickgardner1408
    @nickgardner1408 Год назад +375

    To be fair, it made sense at the time. If it wasn't for the Russians invading Ukraine, all of those Javelins would be collecting dust in an armory somewhere and you'd have politicians crying about wasteful defense spending. You really can't win the supply game 100% of the time.

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Год назад +33

      So we have a war where we are not being attacked. We are learning our shortcomings and we need to work to fix that. We are increasing production on a variety of arms to supply Ukraine and replenish our stock of arms. This doesn't seem like a catastrophe. Also, How much of a stock does China have?

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Год назад

      @@nickgardner1408 How many years do you think that will be for Russia to win, they are busy using their bodies to absorb Ukrainian bullets and they don't have an infinite supply of people.

    • @GuntherRommel
      @GuntherRommel Год назад +33

      @@jd190d Exactly. This is *exactly* what the USA needed, in terms of home defense preparedness. It's exposing all of the weaknesses in the system that have developed since the end of WW2.

    • @rhysioeren3203
      @rhysioeren3203 Год назад +13

      Glad the war is serving its purpose then to put all those bad boys in action, and also to give a few very fortunate people the opportunity to put on some extra cash by manufacturing more of them. Everything is going great.

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Год назад +14

      @@rhysioeren3203 It truly is wonderful. It's like a soft warm blanket of happytime.

  • @codedlogic
    @codedlogic Год назад +1007

    Corporate Tool: "Consolidation has left our industry inflexible and lacking innovation."
    Reporter: What can be done?
    Corporate Tool: "We need to consolidate more."

    • @shuki1
      @shuki1 Год назад +18

      OMG, so true.

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Год назад +13

      Corporate Tool: "Consolidation has left our industry inflexible and lacking innovation." TRUE! TRUE! TRUE!

    • @shuki1
      @shuki1 Год назад

      @@navamsinna8492 Ukraine was/is a backwards and corrupt almost third world country then and now. A lot of infrastructure has been destroyed and will need years and tons of money to rebuild. The Ukraine does not control Europe....

    • @anelnunez126
      @anelnunez126 Год назад

      Ha.ha..

    • @Beyonder1987
      @Beyonder1987 Год назад +6

      Its not innovation. Clearly US weapons tech has made a difference for Ukraine against a lot bigger army. It’s industry conciliation the reason the problem exists now

  • @MrBelmont79
    @MrBelmont79 Год назад +373

    Not just in the defense industry. Apple, google, and meta control basically the internet in the USA. General Foods, Nestle and Kimberly and Clark control our food isles in the supermarkets. Oil is basically controlled by 4 major companies….and so on. Whenever a new company comes with something new or cheaper, it’s swallowed by a bigger company to eliminate it as a competitor. Truly sad times for our economic future and well being ✋🏻

    • @vitaminc2161
      @vitaminc2161 Год назад +11

      competition is needed when there is market and high demand situation which except in this case it is war. nobody wants war.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Год назад +1

      Substitutes: eat more oats for example. But harder to do with specialized hardware.

    • @cliff311976
      @cliff311976 Год назад

      ​@@vitaminc2161 that's why Americunt warmongers create illegal wars

    • @leperabbot3343
      @leperabbot3343 Год назад +8

      just capitalism working as intended

    • @bakenumber4
      @bakenumber4 Год назад

      Is it true America's meat packing industry is completely owned and operated by the Chinese? And no

  • @Ironpancakemoose
    @Ironpancakemoose Год назад +649

    Every protracted war that has occurred after a long time of peace has shown massive supply issues. Like munition consumption during the Russo Japanese war, Artillery consumption during WW1. Its impossibly to have a cutting edge military, and retain the manufacturing capability to rapidly supply the army incase of a massive war.

    • @psilobom
      @psilobom Год назад +54

      In fact, the US Military Industrial Complex, was paid for and funded by our European Allies who were desperate to outpace the Germans. They agreed to pay nearly all the costs for US manufacturers to either switch their factories to making munitions, or to outright build them from scratch, as long as they could promise to deliver guns or shells.
      Anyone working in the US automotive industry can also tell you, our nations industrial plants still have plans in effect to switch into army and tank production. It's unlikely we'll get to that point unless a full scale war breaks out between NATO and Russia.

    • @ardenb2912
      @ardenb2912 Год назад +10

      Russia have yet to use it's modern weapons and doesn't look like they need too, the US and NATO are just too weak. Russia is not using their military or new weapons, they are using PMC Wagner with weapons from the 1960s-1970s ..

    • @marielle5893
      @marielle5893 Год назад

      @ Mooseman Don't forget the nukes. If Putin has nothing to lose. He will use them at his age. This is called EGO and PRIDE.
      And there are enough morons that will help him. There are also bodyguards that will give there lives for 'leaders'. I would never do that.
      And everyday people are losing there life on the battlefield. Alive today. Dead tomorrow.
      I predict the big boom.
      If he is out of weapons... he will use them. 100% sure. Next stage beyond threatening to use them. A new point in history.
      Disaster or succes. The only way for a big EGO
      WW4 is the one we fight with throwing stones again.

    • @modenasolone
      @modenasolone Год назад +18

      The fact is the United States hasn't had a long time of peace. Our military industries have been cranking out weaponry non-stop for over 50 years for the various misadventures we have around the world big and small

    • @Macbrother
      @Macbrother Год назад +84

      @@ardenb2912 Mighty Russia cannot conquer a single oblast in Ukraine. Sit down.

  • @TenzikTens
    @TenzikTens Год назад +176

    Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars. -Gen. Pershing

  • @Hydrazine1000
    @Hydrazine1000 Год назад +105

    OOOPS! The first 3 launches in the intro are actually NLAWs, not Javelins! Javelins have a big black foam piece at the rear. Saab's NLAW has a similar shaped piece _at the front_ of the launcher.

    • @onerimeuse
      @onerimeuse Год назад +5

      Mmmmm semantics. Excellent attention to detail, fellow youtube commentsection mosh pit participant. Props

    • @SvPVids
      @SvPVids Год назад +9

      They were also showing artillery munitions while talking about Javelin production, the author hasnt a clue about arms but is talking about them.

    • @yfelwulf
      @yfelwulf Год назад

      50% of Javlin and Stingers have failed to work fact is THE US Army admits trained US troops get around 19% hits not kills hits making Javlin near useless the M777 Artillery has been slammed by Ukraine as poor quality and breaks down daily in fact Ukraine claims ALL RUSSIAN MADE WEAPONS ARE SUPERIOR TO US MADE. The problem with Israelistan 🇺🇲 is weapons are produced to mskr money the 60% functionality allowed means weapons as long as they work 60% of the time its ACCEPTABLE the B35 Kamakhazi barely makes 54% line ready full of faults the F22 Craptor is even worse. Israelistan has not produced a working weapon in over 2 decades Zumwalt destroyers 23 billion absolutely useless. Patriot last seen attacking its own launch site. Iron Dome thrown away as completely useless and on it goes.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Год назад

      @@yfelwulf Sorry, color me sceptical. If you can be so kind, please provide a few non-biased _credible_ sources to your claims.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Год назад

      @@SvPVids That would make some sense, if they talk about US supply chain limitations more generally, where munition production overall has difficulties scaling up.

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 Год назад +51

    I hate to oversimplify this, but Eisenhower did warn us to keep a close eye on all the effects the continually-evolving military-industrial complex could have on the efficiency of a war effort.

    • @marchofstetter8313
      @marchofstetter8313 Год назад

      And shortly after that they wacked JFK for not wanting Vietnam

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz Год назад

      You mean the same speech where he said that the existence of which is necessary for any war effort and maintaining peace?

    • @crystalaquatica6402
      @crystalaquatica6402 Год назад

      It wasn't about the efficiency of a war effort, dude. It's much bigger than that

  • @walex5462
    @walex5462 Год назад +221

    I find it interesting that they always quote defense budgets of nations, but rarely take into account the difference of costs per nation. Example US vs China where costs of inputs (materials, wages, etc) are very different. I would like to see this done with these factors taken into account to give a true analysis.

    • @definitelynosebreather
      @definitelynosebreather Год назад +11

      Good point.

    • @richardchristie1293
      @richardchristie1293 Год назад +32

      Might I suggest Perun. In a few of his videos he's covered SIPRI & Purchasing power parity. Here's one he did focusing on China;
      ruclips.net/video/mH5TlcMo_m4/видео.html

    • @htleong4790
      @htleong4790 Год назад +7

      if details are shown, probably details will also show the huge amount of skimming off by . ...

    • @watershed8685
      @watershed8685 Год назад +4

      Not to mention that actually some parts of Chinese and Russian military expenditure are classified or disguised

    • @EricLing64
      @EricLing64 Год назад +1

      @@watershed8685 Russian expenditures were stolen, wouldn't be surprised if much of China's are as well. Some of the US too I wouldn't doubt, but I think the accountants for those big weapons manufacturers would quite possibly assassinate anyone who tries to steal from their contracts. Well perhaps not real assassination but career killer and such.

  • @VitoDepho
    @VitoDepho Год назад +35

    It can be argued the US would've used far fewer Javelins in the first place. Ukraine has burned through a lot of Javelins because their infantry have had to use it extensively against tanks and IFVs because they were initially dominated in the field. A massive war machine like the US fighting Russia or China (let's assume it's "only" a conventional war for this scenario) would've used its air force, carrier aircraft if they're within range, attack helicopters, ground-attack missiles, then its rocket artillery, field artillery, tanks, IFVs, and so on even before its infantry got to use their Javelins against any remaining enemy armor.

    • @kimberleemodel7182
      @kimberleemodel7182 Год назад +6

      They did mention projections and simulations on a conflict in the taiwan straight, so sure there would be a greater diversity of weapons systems to draw from, but the more sophisticated air and naval systems are likely the ones to run out first.

    • @Wick9876
      @Wick9876 Год назад +1

      @@kimberleemodel7182 Although how they can run out of munitions in a week when they probably can't get them near Taiwan by then has me puzzled. Also *strait for the nautical kind. .

    • @taras4412
      @taras4412 Год назад +4

      Jawelin here is just used as an example of a modern weapon that can't be produced fast enough, to expose supply chain issues. Same problems are applied to other weapon systems USA produces.

  • @dccprime1
    @dccprime1 Год назад +116

    Ok, this was a good video overall, but I gotta be a stickler about it. They keep talking about Javs but they put up images and videos of both Javelin missile launchers and NLAW launchers. They are VERY MUCH not the same, even as they are rather similar.

    • @conorsheridan2998
      @conorsheridan2998 Год назад +8

      Haha thank you!!!! It was bugging me all vid lol

    • @sballantine8127
      @sballantine8127 Год назад

      The point of the article was the typewritten copy, not the pictures.

    • @citizen3000
      @citizen3000 Год назад

      Nobody cares. You can scuttle back to Reddit and touch yourself while thinking about weapons there.

    • @Kenneth_James
      @Kenneth_James Год назад +4

      These WSJ videos on military matters are generally under researched and full of assumptions

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Год назад +3

      THEY ARE REPORTERS!

  • @devabratadixit303
    @devabratadixit303 Год назад +128

    Mass production is key to victory in any war, with probability of minor conflicts increasing in near future small arms production will be a key part of settling issues.

    • @PHOBOS1708
      @PHOBOS1708 Год назад +5

      information is key to victory in any war. if you win a war, before there is a war, this is the real victory!

    • @walex5462
      @walex5462 Год назад +3

      The problem in cases like this is production is based on orders (demand) in states where defense is private. Countries like china and russia can increase production more quickly because the industries are state owned

    • @richardkroll2269
      @richardkroll2269 Год назад

      Great. Right now we are planning to issue new infantry weapons firing the 6.8 cartridge. So how will we interface with NATO having forced the 5.56 on them. One foot on the dock and one foot in the canoe.

    • @chrisd9700
      @chrisd9700 Год назад +1

      @@walex5462 You've forgotten about the Defense Production Act that allows the US Govt to nationalize production during times of emergency. It was just used as recently as 2020 to compel manufacturers to ramp up production of ventilators and masks during the pandemic

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Год назад

      @@chrisd9700 The problem is that 277 sig fury (6.8) cartridge is a completely novel design. I think ammo producers will have to overhaul their production lines to make it. Plus no one else in NATO uses it. We'll probably be sticking with the m4 for a good while longer.

  • @3.2Carrera
    @3.2Carrera Год назад +173

    Anyone who's been in business the last 20 years sees exactly why we're having supply chain issues. While DoD requirements differ obviously unregulated consumer manufacturing has almost completely gone overseas in the past 25 years. We've seen US manufacturing in past conflicts make incredible changes turning things 180 degrees like switching car production to tanks and typewriter factories to rifles for example. There's a small fraction of production capability that we once had for low tech weaponry, let alone anything high tech. I also thought it unwise that US govt in previous administrators went after firearm manufacturers- the same ones that produced the arsenal that won WWI and WWII. When we need them, it's of the upmost importance, but as we've seen when we don't they can be discarded quite easily.

    • @spicychad55
      @spicychad55 Год назад +15

      Firearms are just a minor tool, they've never really won wars. Cannons,bombs, nukes, missiles, jet, helicopter and intelligence collection are more efficient at damaging the enemies.

    • @rgddydshevchenko2448
      @rgddydshevchenko2448 Год назад +12

      ​@@spicychad55 Gee, I wonder what that intelligence, artillery, and those vehicles are meant to support...

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq Год назад

      Yup... And who did we give all that manufacturing power too? China... Our biggest threat. So in the event of a war the USA has basically no way of ramping up production rapidly, meanwhile China will be able to do what the USA did in WW2 on a 100x bigger scale.
      In other words, the boomers that sold our factories overseas so they could make slightly more profit at the expense of their countrymen are traitors and should be treated as such.

    • @3.2Carrera
      @3.2Carrera Год назад +1

      @@spicychad55 Point taken but that was just one example on small arms.

    • @N17C1
      @N17C1 Год назад +6

      The US actually has quite a good ammunition (including artillery) manufacturing capability. It can scale up reasonably well and has fairly modern manufacturing methods. What the US (and every other country) struggle with are the high tech weapons and other systems that rely on the global supply chain for components.

  • @midnightflare9879
    @midnightflare9879 Год назад +10

    I say it's a good thing. Being able to test and refine your supply chain in peacetime is still better than spotting the cracks after declaring a wartime economy.

  • @judejohnson6336
    @judejohnson6336 Год назад +13

    In my opinion it’s a good thing that we’re seeing this stuff now. Imagine if we got into a sudden conflict and our industry was this unprepared.

    • @rosevitelli5814
      @rosevitelli5814 Год назад

      There is conflict coming fast because we are telling China hit them now how stupid is the media

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider Год назад

      It's a repeat of Lend-Lease preparing the US for WWII

  • @user-wr4yl7tx3w
    @user-wr4yl7tx3w Год назад +40

    Are those regulators who approved the merger now working for the companies with nice salaries?

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Год назад +3

      YES! AND CHINA TOO.

    • @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw
      @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw Год назад

      but its not easy, lots of legal guidelines and governmental oversight .... they will earn that wage

  • @maineusaMax
    @maineusaMax Год назад +33

    Would it have been "fiscally responsible," to produce at this scale before the war? We barely have workers for most businesses, nevermind supply chains. Stopping good people from coming here to get an education, and WORK is a national security issue. I never hear the WSJ worrying about that.

    • @chrisd9700
      @chrisd9700 Год назад +8

      Thats one of the big downsides of the anti-immigration movement, it severely impacts the long term economic growth and production of the US economy

    • @Filmfist
      @Filmfist Год назад

      Wsj is owned by rupert Murdoch so not a surprise

    • @kimberleemodel7182
      @kimberleemodel7182 Год назад +1

      A hundred years ago, the US had factories which could switch from consumer goods to militry goods in a matter of months. That isn't the case before. In part because there aren't that many domestic factories and in part because military goods are far more complex than they were 100yrs ago.

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 Год назад

      @@chrisd9700 and without automation who's gonna work in mcdonalds

    • @flyingrat492
      @flyingrat492 Год назад

      @@kimberleemodel7182 and a hundred years ago there was unregulated immigration to the US. Not to sound to Machiavellian but frankly immigrants have always done hard and underpaid jobs in the history of the US and the idea they’re stealing anything is just plain stupid, i don’t think any American to annoyed missing out on the opportunity to clean hotels or do yard work for under minimum wage

  • @N17C1
    @N17C1 Год назад +8

    So, all us military logisticians knew 'just in time' logistics had no redundancy or robustness. First major war and it comes tumbling down. To give the US and Europe credit, they were not expecting to fight or support a prolonged conventional war. But it shows that local industry is critical to any country's national security.

  • @messagesystem333
    @messagesystem333 Год назад +9

    Just in time delivery is a problem in all sectors.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Год назад +17

    I've thought the same thing about the consolidation of America's defense contractors. Though not a "military expert", I am an accountant with considerable supply chain experience. And "just in time" supply chain manufacturing is not necessarily a good thing for defense contractors like it is in the auto industry.

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Год назад

      Given the recent new car shortages I'm not sure if it's good for the auto industry either.

    • @jossland1628
      @jossland1628 Год назад

      @@TheMsdos25 It isn't. Ironically, the originator of the 'just in time' paradigm changed back into stockpiling parts during Covid, and did much better than their competitors.

  • @showcaseSampa
    @showcaseSampa Год назад +9

    That consolidation started around when Bush Senior was in Office.
    I remember that. They were commiserating the fact consolidation was the tall order, and a lot of M&A deals took place then.
    Martin Marietta became Lockheed Martin or something like that.
    By the time Reagan was in office, 9 out of 10 well paying Engineering jobs came from Defense. No security clearance, no job. I was then a Green Card Holder, and going through College. The glossy hiring book for companies doing DoD contracting work might've been 200 pages thick.
    Come to think of, all of the money made then wouldn't be worth . I remember interviewing for a job for a manufacturer of shrapnel projectiles in Concord MA, and the shop foreman was describing what the product did. I put some effort in keeping a straight face, but something might've surface the foreman could read on me.
    I am at peace not getting those well paying jobs. | sleep like a baby.

  • @thomasg6400
    @thomasg6400 Год назад +5

    We definitely don’t spend enough on DoD contracts😅

  • @phoreal22
    @phoreal22 Год назад +14

    One day it's too much defence industry now it's not enough

    • @mayanksingh0044
      @mayanksingh0044 Год назад +3

      u have to understand that war is won by military industrial complex asks the russians, they are struggling to find the components and key semicounductors and many more. in war time u can convert civil industry to make war stuff but for that u need the industrial scale and it would be still inferior to defence industrial complex. Russians have heavy artilerry sitting in russian not at border both logistics and maintaninace is absolute key. USA is still very storng in these departments when it comes to protect usa or its nato allies but same cant be said when for other countries

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 Год назад +60

    One thing WSJ fails to take into account is that the U.S didn’t need to produce a lot of equipment that Ukraine needs, because conventional conflicts in the Middle East were over quickly.
    So troops didn’t really need things like Javelins or Artillery, because they wouldn’t be useful against the types of enemies they were fighting. Combined with American logistics and maintenance being relatively good, few troops were losing equipment.

    • @theprinceofpie
      @theprinceofpie Год назад

      Yes, the US has had air supremacy in every war since the 1950's. It's not really surprising that the US isn't prepared for a long term WW2 style war when an airstrike can do the same thing far safer.

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Год назад +12

      And also a war between the US against a nuclear power would make these conventional weapons a moot point. This news video seems like an ad to increase our military budget again.

    • @far_centrist
      @far_centrist Год назад

      ​@@npc2480 i think you are on to something! Let's see who funded states media for the past few years... Oh sh-

    • @shulovic
      @shulovic Год назад +3

      @@npc2480 problem is that US in proxy war vs nuclear power (russia) and cant provide enough conventional weapons

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Год назад +2

      @@shulovic well who asked the US to get into a proxy war with Russia? The problem the US has is its own doing.

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Год назад +3

    I honestly learned about Javelin ATGM from Call of Duty 4 during the mission "The Bog", ah yesss great times and top 3 best Call of Duty

  • @bambisquad7896
    @bambisquad7896 Год назад +8

    I mean we arent relying on javelins to take out tanks, just the ability to if necessary. Every next war will entirely rely on air superiority and SEAD missions

  • @greatmartini1
    @greatmartini1 Год назад +20

    The fewer manufacturers equals higher prices. When you have no other choices you pay what ever price they give you.

    • @firasajoury7813
      @firasajoury7813 Год назад +1

      Capitalism at its finest

    • @Ningen18
      @Ningen18 Год назад +2

      @@firasajoury7813 It's actually Corporatism at its finest

    • @supermega10453
      @supermega10453 Год назад

      @@Ningen18 Semantics at its finest.

    • @thearbiter9308
      @thearbiter9308 3 месяца назад

      @@supermega10453 not semantics, corporatism.

  • @harrymu148
    @harrymu148 Год назад +5

    I thought the point of a defense department was to maintain a force that can take on any adversary?

  • @37061044
    @37061044 Год назад +5

    Quality reporting

  • @vinces.5523
    @vinces.5523 Год назад

    This is eye opening!

  • @thoma5peter5en
    @thoma5peter5en Год назад

    Great insight 👍
    * why the "Analysing in background" banner at little over half way through the video?

  • @mmurfur
    @mmurfur Год назад +36

    wsj frames this as a lagging supply chain story, rather than a story about ramping up supply chains for the protracted proxy wars with china to come

    • @mikemcd
      @mikemcd Год назад +1

      Hail president Kamala!

    • @modenasolone
      @modenasolone Год назад

      It's comming

    • @fuckedupbody4194
      @fuckedupbody4194 Год назад

      Even then, what not mentioned is chinas or russias ability to draw upon N. Korea vast stockpiles. Given how the nation is starved, it wouldn't be too far fetched or too far from reality to trade food for arms. China has vast warehouses of old Soviet era weapon systems and their munitions. They might be old but if it can still kill you then its still effective.
      Another thing thats not mentioned is Chinas ability to massively ramp up military production. There are factories all across the country that can produce items quickly and cheaply, which if you're fighting a drawn out war is a major plus.

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k Год назад +1

      if US can't even mass produce weapon like javelin, then how US can mass produce missile, cruise missile, and ship againts china?

    • @fuckedupbody4194
      @fuckedupbody4194 Год назад

      @@user-gc1hg9sp9k Its due to the destructive capability of each weapon system. If each cruise missile, anti-ship missile, torpedo can sink a ship then the US is already winning as the US has a greater stockpile of said munitions than there are ships crewed by the USN and PLAN combined but the same can be said for China's anti ship weapon systems. However and this is a big however, the US can't even field half of its commissioned ships as of now. Usually half of them are doing refits, dry docks, training or repairs which puts them out of action. Yes they can go all hands on deck and get the ships back out to sea but while they are waiting, they can be hit by ICBMs, antiship missiles, torpedoes, etc.

  • @organizedchaos4559
    @organizedchaos4559 Год назад +4

    I think the main problem is consolidation and monopolies

  • @firecrow7973
    @firecrow7973 Год назад +1

    I like how the javelina and the warthog are both tank destroyers

  • @lagoonlane
    @lagoonlane Год назад

    Excellent stuff.

  • @stevenobrien3722
    @stevenobrien3722 Год назад +14

    This is really all very good news. It’s so much better to get this fixed now then during wartime for us.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Год назад

      Its not good news because we've already totally emptied our stocks of Javelins and Stingers which Taiwan needed yesterday. Their orders are backlogged to the late 2020s when we might be in a war by 2027.

  • @nickmail7604
    @nickmail7604 Год назад +3

    The more complex a weapon system is the harder it is to raise production because to build new and complex production lines and then train up new operators takes both time and money

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz Год назад +1

      It’s not even that. It’s the fact that proprietary tech and manufacturing practices are closely guarded. There’s little provisions for other industries that are theoretically capable of manufacturing those subsystems to be contracted out.

  • @coalescententity6651
    @coalescententity6651 Год назад

    Well that's moderately terrifying.

  • @GlennSchmelzle
    @GlennSchmelzle Год назад

    Informative, though an editing mistake appears at 4:39: 'Analyzing in background'

  • @user-qh9vv8mp6n
    @user-qh9vv8mp6n Год назад +3

    Anyone surprised by WSJ showing NLAW launches while talking about the Javelin?

  • @rosemariebredahl9519
    @rosemariebredahl9519 Год назад +4

    Perhaps defense contracts should always include building redundant machinery, tools, and other equipment for production lines AND warehousing components, hardware, and all materials necessary for the type of quick a sudden large war might require in case the U.S. suddenly needs more (?).

    • @Andrew--S
      @Andrew--S Год назад +3

      We can't stockpile talented workers who know how to make a Javelin. Only so many people can be asked to come back out of retirement. Training good workers to make complex weapons can take a while. 4:12 is one example of the work environment.
      Perhaps the military can have reserve jobs just for manufacturing. I wouldn't mind re-enlisting for that if there was no height/weight requirements.

    • @Evan-cf5xe
      @Evan-cf5xe Год назад +3

      In past wars, other industries were retooled to make weapons and ammo. We saw this recently with many small companies "retooling" to make masks and hand sanitizer to fight covid. The problem is that we have sent most of our industry to other countries and continents, because we wanted to have a "service economy", so there aren't really any factories to retool.

  • @determinedlyunmotivated4300
    @determinedlyunmotivated4300 Год назад

    Great video!

  • @mstitcher
    @mstitcher Год назад

    Good report, interesting to remember the old work place and program

  • @archillominadze3055
    @archillominadze3055 Год назад +3

    Every supplier of weapons must have their assembly lines and trainer stuff preserved until the particular weapon remains in service of an army in order to ensure steady supply when army stocks begin to shrink.

    • @GintaPPE1000
      @GintaPPE1000 Год назад

      That's all very easy to say until you see the bill for keeping specialized production lines open and skilled workers on the job. Consolidation happened in the first place because the US public didn't want to pay that price through MIC subsidies.

  • @MarkM001
    @MarkM001 Год назад +3

    There is a lot to consider here. I understand Warren's position but a heightened base of specific manufacture increases security risk. But a heightened base of manufacture also increases opportunity for innovation. These are opposed. I wonder if in designing advanced weaponry the ability to quickly increase production is considered at all and if making manufacture scalable shouldn't be part of the criteria. Maybe it's that simple.

    • @Andrew-is3ld
      @Andrew-is3ld Год назад +1

      Monopolies are on the rise in every major sector today. I'm thankful for Warren's voice, but she's been pointing out the dangers this trend clearly for years now, how do we get other politicians to care?

    • @MarkM001
      @MarkM001 Год назад

      @@Andrew-is3ld So has Klobuchar. The questions I have just concerns the defense industry. I don't know if it should be treated separately from other industries but doing so would not be without precedent. For me, your point about other industries is certainly valid though. I have not idea, except to vote in other politicians; of how to get politicians to face thorny unsexy issues that can't be captured in a highly charged sound bite.

  • @dindrockstar
    @dindrockstar Год назад +1

    What are you analysing in the background at 4:37?

  • @swayzakjoe7347
    @swayzakjoe7347 Год назад +1

    I like how they totally evaded the word "MONOPOLY"

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 Год назад +2

    Better now than later when they are directly involved in a war.

  • @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw
    @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw Год назад

    the large explosive warhead and accurate targeting system is what makes this very potent .... hand fired

  • @Muzeishen
    @Muzeishen Год назад

    That subliminal flash at 4:38 says “Analyzing in background.”

  • @dotsmassacre
    @dotsmassacre Год назад +3

    Suppliers not only have a citizen's duty to resist radical exaggerations of the need to arm both the government and potentially other governments but a moral duty to act as a brake on drastic expansions of various components of military industrial production as it relates to unjustifiable expansion of the military capacity of the state in spite of real-world conditions. The state should not be underwritten by the strength of military industrial production and to account the industry should not become accomplice to radical schemes by various governments or entities within them from time to time to attempt to stimulate affairs or even the economy with military industrial production. That would be irascible and fundamentally irresponsible.

  • @az5129
    @az5129 Год назад

    I'd rather learn this now than latter. Good time to address it now.

  • @brigbeets5317
    @brigbeets5317 Год назад +1

    Someone forgot to remove that 4:38

  • @larrydickman5936
    @larrydickman5936 Год назад +3

    Regardless of cracks in the system, you have to admit post 9/11, the forever wars are the gift that keeps on giving if you're the defence industry.

  • @jeffsiegwart
    @jeffsiegwart Год назад +4

    Get on it Congress! Solve this!

  • @Tubueller
    @Tubueller Год назад

    4:38 so do you guys Screen record the video an upload it besides actually rendering and exporting to save time?

  • @TofuBoi_
    @TofuBoi_ Год назад

    It's good that we are aware of this issue. Now let's get to fix it!

  • @michaelyun2407
    @michaelyun2407 Год назад +10

    Another issue the video did not bring up is that unlike regular business that can sell good to any counties or business as long as it is allowed, we don't want that to happen for milliary supply company. I mean jut think if Russia or China or Iran is able to buy the f35 or some high tech weapons from US military company. It will be very bad.
    I think that's one of the reason why military contact is very expensive not only to cover for R&D but also have an exclusive Claus that you can't sell to certainly companies or counties but to keep your company a float and keep making these military equipment we will pay you more.

  • @davidbias2509
    @davidbias2509 Год назад +3

    Break up the monopolies.

  • @michaelcampbell7494
    @michaelcampbell7494 Год назад +1

    Oligopolist markets compete on everything except price. Scary when the military has to rely on a handfull of suppliers.

  • @illusivec
    @illusivec Год назад

    If you're also wondering what that was at 4:38, it says "Analyzing in background". Wonder what that is.

  • @N17C1
    @N17C1 Год назад +3

    It would be interesting if the US govt banned further mergers or purchases of smaller companies. Instead, larger companies could invest up to 49% in smaller companies. This would either see more investment in smaller manufacturers (and thereby support innovation) or the larger companies would spend the money on R&D to try and compete with the innovation of smaller companies.

  • @ahgoon69er
    @ahgoon69er Год назад +7

    Alternate title for this video: how we can feed more money to the war machine

  • @Ornitorincoalbino
    @Ornitorincoalbino Год назад

    What's the "analyzing in background" flashing on screen at 4:38 ?

  • @ChrisJohnson-vi3ed
    @ChrisJohnson-vi3ed Год назад

    Well, at least we're learning from it now instead of later. Let's see if anyone does something about it.

  • @kwatt-engineer796
    @kwatt-engineer796 Год назад +12

    This is what is sometimes called "a cheap lesson". The benefit to the US is that we aren't in a direct hot war with a near peer adversary. We now have some time to fix the problem.

    • @markhylis9561
      @markhylis9561 Год назад

      I agree

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Год назад

      And other countries to lean on to lighten the load in the meantime. As a vet, I'm fascinated & appreciative of how many nations have come together in an emergency, it's really something unique and incredible to see. So much for thinking the west couldn't pull it off as a group mission, we've done very well considering there was no plan in place for such an event.

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Год назад

      A war with a near peer will be nuclear which will make these conventional weapons meaningless.

  • @ewoksalot
    @ewoksalot Год назад +18

    What the video doesn't mention or cover is that it's likely every country around the world is facing similar issues. The United States was not unique in its C-19 supply issue struggles, nor are we the only country facing economic woes currently. The only question is how quickly we can adapt and overcome. Given the potential financial incentives... I'd say we'll be alright ;)

    • @andrewm8703
      @andrewm8703 Год назад +4

      Many countries, but not all. China is a country in which they have the industrial base to grow at a very rapid rate. They have the facilities for raw materials, fabrication, and production. Chips would seem to be the one area that they may struggle, but this could change.
      It is good that these issues are coming to light. The way that we had been doing business has to change. Key industries must not be allowed to be outsourced.

    • @robo__cop8154
      @robo__cop8154 Год назад

      except russia they make 3 million sheels a year now paimping to 5 million ..western nations combined do not reach 5 million so no you're not doing alright . russia has been stockpiling since 8 years they haven't even run out and now their factories run 24 hours a day 7 days a week .the west cannot match that .

    • @andrewm8703
      @andrewm8703 Год назад

      @@navamsinna8492 lol
      How’s the weather in Russia

    • @LeadLeftLeon
      @LeadLeftLeon Год назад +1

      Won’t be in time to stop Ukraine from falling and being at the mercy of Russia though. Perhaps this will lead the US into a period of isolationism to build itself up. Instead of getting involved in wars it loses

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Год назад

      People ask....what should I invest in? Aerospace might be a good idea, lol.

  • @lyn-jhonosia8981
    @lyn-jhonosia8981 Год назад

    That was pretty alarming

  • @VVVV-yr4tp
    @VVVV-yr4tp Год назад +6

    lets hope china doesn't see this video...

  • @youcantata
    @youcantata Год назад +6

    Why not take advantage of industrial capacity of friendly countries of US like South Korea, Japan and Germany. They will be happily obliged to supply components for Javelin or other high-tech munitions. They are already producing similar weapon systems and have industrial skill and infrastructure to supply. Having extra qualified supplier will encourage more competition and more extra production capacity on demand or emergency. South Korean arms industry have good capacity, quality and price for many legacy and modern weapons.

    • @yusm
      @yusm Год назад

      Did you not listen, conventional war is a war of industrial base. US is already trying to destroy china industrial base, to keep it as a manufacturer of tchotchkes. Why would they shore up their client nations.

    • @whitemailprivilege2830
      @whitemailprivilege2830 Год назад +1

      Japan? Have you forgotten the attack on Pearl Harbor?

    • @breaknfiction21
      @breaknfiction21 Год назад +2

      @@whitemailprivilege2830 are you a time traveler from 1940s? Japan is one of America’s most important military allies.

  • @stizanley3987
    @stizanley3987 Год назад +1

    The Military Industrial Complex is 5 companies, wow.

  • @shirtdirt1874
    @shirtdirt1874 Год назад +1

    Good.

  • @arnaudmenant9897
    @arnaudmenant9897 Год назад +6

    In France we got the same pattern of consolidation and we lost many companies and supply chains. Lot of people say it is no problèm because the US can be the backup. Well the US has the same issue.

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y Год назад +4

    I’m so surprised that the Wall Street Journal telling the truth now even though it’s too late to tell to the public. 😂😂😂😂

  • @erosenbauer3435
    @erosenbauer3435 Год назад

    4:36 That blip says "Analyzing In Background"... You're welcome

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Год назад +2

    For a "healthy" free market economy, it needs competition!

  • @Flipflop437
    @Flipflop437 Год назад +5

    We need to decide whether the defense industry is for the American people, or for shareholders of the defense industry

  • @mrmelmba
    @mrmelmba Год назад +3

    Russian tanks face German tanks in combat once again. Germany is renowned for its high quality manufacturing, yet has extreme difficulty comprehending a simple concept-assuming that it is even able to learn at all-and is making the same mistake all over again.

    Superior equipment, first class training, unparalleled discipline. What could possibly go wrong? This time?

    Perhaps, one of us ought to let them know.

  • @billykuan
    @billykuan Год назад +1

    This is a problem throughout the U.S. economy. Monopolies both vertical and horizontal stifle innovation and competition but is good for profits.

  • @lazynow1
    @lazynow1 Год назад

    All the years of mergers and out sourcing has been crazy, nice to see no pay wall with is video.

  • @nesseihtgnay9419
    @nesseihtgnay9419 Год назад +4

    The javelin, the best!! MANPAT

    • @francisyockey8225
      @francisyockey8225 Год назад +2

      Not even close, it's old tech now

    • @kmilorestre5223
      @kmilorestre5223 Год назад +5

      ​@@francisyockey8225 good enough to pop soviet designs

    • @nesseihtgnay9419
      @nesseihtgnay9419 Год назад +4

      @Francis Yockey it was the first to be fire and forget technology dude. Paved the way for everyone else to follow and copy, like the chinese HJ-12, the NLAW. Before MANPAT were just shooting a rocket grenade to enemies with your aim.

  • @TomTerrific1000
    @TomTerrific1000 Год назад +6

    These guys have n.ever worked a day in DOD contracting and production. I designed the first Javelin launch motor tooling in the early 1990s, developed MK1000 bomb production, M1 Abrams gun ammo, etc. The problem isn't "competition" or pricing. They're correct in that certain types of munitions like Javelin are very expensive and equipment wasn't designed for a protracted WWII style war. On the other hand, tank munitions were high capability The overall problem is having trained personnel, using available munitions with launchers and delivered in a timely manner. It's a very complicated logistics problem. The U.S. has more than enough capability to deliver JDAM, but the delivery vehicle will be in short supply without appropriate delivery of the launch vehicle.

    • @MantisShrimp80
      @MantisShrimp80 Год назад

      I remember long time back someone who commented on a RUclips clip that she worked at a javelin plant, and that she wasn't paid all that great. Is there an underpayment problem at these facilities?

    • @MeowyBrigade
      @MeowyBrigade Год назад +1

      @@MantisShrimp80 Perceived underpaying differ person from person. I would take a youtube comment for a grain of salt

    • @MantisShrimp80
      @MantisShrimp80 Год назад

      @@MeowyBrigade His comment has " The overall problem is having trained personnel" while I cannot depend on one comment as you said for sure, while I am not experienced working in the defense industry having a shortage of skilled employees in an established company is generally a sign of management undervaluing skilled labor.

  • @yolo_burrito
    @yolo_burrito Год назад

    Just in time is an optimization for cheap and efficient by sacrificing resiliency.

  • @danielomingomingsr9203
    @danielomingomingsr9203 Год назад

    that's dangerous.

  • @phbrinsden
    @phbrinsden Год назад +9

    That’s why this is a good opportunity to really tune up the military supply chain, use up some equipment that has been stored for a while and test how well the current weapons work in a real combat situation.

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Год назад

      Much of our mothballed equipment went to NATO so that has put some pressure on demand as well.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Год назад

      We don't have any problem with testing given how much we've sent to Ukraine. The issue is our stockpiles are bare. According to the CSIS report this video references, it could take a decade to replace some systems. That's an issue given what could happen to Taiwan in 2027. The supply chain doesn't just need tuning, it needs a total overhaul.

  • @TheMotlias
    @TheMotlias Год назад +5

    "this is the javaline" they say while showing footage the the British/Swedish NLAW 😆

    • @abrakkehakka1357
      @abrakkehakka1357 Год назад

      Well… If they have issues keeping up production of the Javelin, they might as well have issues keeping up producing of video clips of the Javelin.

  • @sofukanal8687
    @sofukanal8687 Год назад

    4:38 The editors forgot this part for 1 frame or so

  • @Zaaxun
    @Zaaxun Год назад +1

    Good to expose it, now they can work on fixing it.

  • @ec6052
    @ec6052 Год назад +5

    So government turned the defense industry into a monopoly? And you can't just ramp up production? Read that between the lines.. What that means is they only want a few friends making all the money and we're not allowing any competition to cut in on that, even if the nation's safety is at stake... Gotcha... Put another contract out or offer $1 more a unit and watch how fast production ramps up.
    Edit: Guess I should have finished the video first before I watched it LOL But yeah, corporations, that's the reason for most of our problems and why they spend so much on media to convince us government is the problem. Government isn't that powerful, the multibillionaire's who pay off these slime ball politicians are what's powerful. Gas too expensive? Blame government while oil companies are making record profits! Malnourished infant due to a formula shortage? Blame government for it while a few companies that control supply make record profits off it's scarcity.. While certain area codes never knew the problem existed..

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Год назад

      What if I told you those same corporations are the most responsible this war even started in the first place?
      "But, Russians are the ones who invaded" is simply NPC tier reasoning.

    • @ec6052
      @ec6052 Год назад

      @@shonemumy I would tell you that you wasted my time and yours stating the obvious. Thanks...

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Год назад

      @@ec6052 Oh, look someone with an actual working brain. Rare thing among these comments. Cheers, man.

    • @ec6052
      @ec6052 Год назад

      @shonemumy Well that makes one of us 😂

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Год назад

      @@ec6052 Starting to think the same.

  • @ameliam7898
    @ameliam7898 Год назад +7

    But for example when Texas Instuments sold off their defense industry to Raytheon the facilities & manpower remained intact. So not sure the loss of scale translates - seems more of a supply chain/covid issue

    • @biggestcomplainer
      @biggestcomplainer Год назад +1

      Covid lol

    • @ameliam7898
      @ameliam7898 Год назад

      @@biggestcomplainer yeah should have covid response by idiot politicians

    • @dritemolawzbks8574
      @dritemolawzbks8574 Год назад

      ​@@ameliam7898 Were you referring to TI's former defense contracts for semiconductors and microelectronics? I thought it was sold to Raytheon and Qorvo.

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Год назад

      "Supply chain issue" is just another way of saying "reliant on China"

  • @retropotatoe
    @retropotatoe Год назад

    "THISSSSS" 0:02

  • @jakelilevjen9766
    @jakelilevjen9766 Год назад

    Efficient and lean manufacturing is not built for surge support. We have spent decades cutting back on “waste” that we no longer have capacity to process huge amounts of munitions.

  • @sballantine8127
    @sballantine8127 Год назад +5

    This is extremely alarming. Is anyone actually constructively DOING something about this or is everyone still standing around clutching their pearls and wringing their hands?

    • @ewoksalot
      @ewoksalot Год назад +1

      Welcome to America - everyone who can make money on it is already working to fix it. This is not only common sense, but one example is illustrated at 6:35.

    • @paulbrown4649
      @paulbrown4649 Год назад +1

      The cold war idea of stockpiling weapons and munitions is 30 years in the past.

    • @sballantine8127
      @sballantine8127 Год назад

      @@ewoksalot Doesn't sound to me like they're putting the pedal to the metal to get it done anytime in the near future. Projected delivery dates for ammo, as an example have been talked about in numerous other videos are being mentioned in double-digit months and even not until some time in 2024, depending on the kind of ammo being talked about. This in inexcusable and unacceptable.

    • @maatagentsmith5800
      @maatagentsmith5800 Год назад

      I agree, we should be ramping up the day Ukraine was invaded

  • @TheThegtrain
    @TheThegtrain Год назад

    At time code 4:38 you have an error message in the video: "Analyzing In Background" that runs across the screen. It's for a brief second. Now we know you use Adobe Premiere lol.

  • @BlueRice
    @BlueRice Год назад

    war is costly. cant keep up with demand is even greater costly.

  • @alexcarlson7691
    @alexcarlson7691 Год назад +4

    I used to think WSJ was a pretty unbiased news source, but more and more it feels like they are shilling for various corporations. The US spends an ever increasing amount on our military each year, but this paints the picture that the military industrial complex needs even more money to keep us ‘safe’.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Год назад

      They never said they needed to spend more money, just that the current supply chain is not sufficient. If you don't want to increase spending you could just conserve weapons more effectively, but that would require policy changes.

  • @nesseihtgnay9419
    @nesseihtgnay9419 Год назад +6

    People are thinking that, oh, the US can't keep up with the demand of ammunition and military vehicles anymore. People don't know that the US is not at war, it's economy was not set to full-scale war productions, and it's not even in 25% of war productions. It's peace time, people, except the russia-ukraine war. It's not like ww2 where the US is in a full-scale war. That's when America came out from sleeping and built and produced the most military weapons and vehicles in history.

    • @andrewrogers3067
      @andrewrogers3067 Год назад +3

      Yeah it went from a small time military to arguably the strongest in WW2.
      People are hilariously ignorant to how strong the US economy is sometimes.

    • @glichjthebicycle384
      @glichjthebicycle384 Год назад +3

      Yeah people overreact. US economy just wasnt calibrated for a war like the one in Ukraine. If the US really wanted to they could pump out ammunition at a pace that drowned Ukraine in ammo lol.

    • @Commievn
      @Commievn Год назад +1

      ​@@glichjthebicycle384
      With what? The U.S is now too divided to even agreed on one policy that last more than 1 election.

  • @stanoh1000
    @stanoh1000 Год назад

    Some excergerations don't even make sense. The javelins were mostly inoperable, with dead batteries et Al.

  • @Seat_and_Yeet
    @Seat_and_Yeet Год назад

    Anybody else catch the “analyzing in background” flash at 4:38