NHL/5 Players Who LOST Captaincy and WHY

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  • @cameronstackhouse7173
    @cameronstackhouse7173 4 года назад +73

    Love your the videos keep it up

  • @turdferguson5723
    @turdferguson5723 4 года назад +31

    Brown lost the captaincy and his falling productive was in large part due to issues with Daryl Sutter. Sutter had him playing on 3rd and 4th line.

  • @bobbyshizz2138
    @bobbyshizz2138 3 года назад +15

    Dustin Brown has 299 NHL goals. If he had a great set of hands, he'd have 500 and be a lock for the HOF. The guy was always in the right place to score (especially in his prime) and, frustratingly, often failed to find the back of the net. That said, as a Kings fan since the early 70's, I love and respect what Brown has done and meant to the organization.

    • @unbiasbruinsfan7330
      @unbiasbruinsfan7330 3 года назад +3

      brown should go down as one of the best grinders in the modern day era. while he wasnt a gamechanger in the regular season, he knew how to win in the playoffs with his physical play and pounding in front of the net, i dont know why im talking about him like his careers over, guess it just feels like it

    • @obey2dmax
      @obey2dmax 2 года назад +3

      Much love and respect to Brownie now that he's retiring at the end of this season.

    • @TheFloyd87
      @TheFloyd87 7 месяцев назад

      Dustin Brown was in the right place in game 3 against the Vancouver Canucks in 2012 when he nailed that one timer and it found the back of the net.

  • @BMHLonRDC
    @BMHLonRDC 4 года назад +171

    Being a captain isn’t about points

    • @AlyssaHope
      @AlyssaHope  4 года назад +20

      It is anymore to some teams 🤷‍♀️

    • @TheHeston83
      @TheHeston83 4 года назад +10

      it should be about leading to team throughh rough seasons till your are able to hold the cup

    • @Joe-ic3oe
      @Joe-ic3oe 4 года назад

      Alyssa Hope nahhhh

    • @Joe-ic3oe
      @Joe-ic3oe 4 года назад

      Mike Schwab I cant believe I even clicked on this video...I shoulda known not to listen to this bitch🤣

    • @arjunbirring778
      @arjunbirring778 4 года назад

      Alyssa Hope maybe to draw more attention to the player/team

  • @BlairthePreacher
    @BlairthePreacher 4 года назад +47

    The Kings did not make the conference final in 2011. The Sharks did. Also, the Sharks lost in the conference final in 2004, not the quarterfinals.

    • @xsvech37
      @xsvech37 3 года назад

      Blair Salzen oops 🤷‍♂️

    • @vasquez850
      @vasquez850 3 года назад +2

      Yup I was just thinking that. I was like naw we got our asses handed by the sharks in 6 games in the first round haha

  • @1-upking119
    @1-upking119 2 года назад +6

    Vincent Lecavalier (former captain of the Tampa Bay Lightning), was stripped of the captaincy after frequently clashing with John Tortorella (his coach at the time).

  • @nataku3160
    @nataku3160 4 года назад +60

    captain has no direct relation to points and goals production, its about being a leader on and off the ice.

    • @noahkalllianiotis7305
      @noahkalllianiotis7305 4 года назад +1

      Joe Kar look at Chara

    • @blaketaylor9850
      @blaketaylor9850 3 года назад

      Speaking moistly!

    • @wilhelmvg9978
      @wilhelmvg9978 3 года назад

      It does have a direct relation to points, I’m sorry but you’re wrong. If you’re a forward who’s completely inept at playing hockey, you can’t wear the C. Even if you’re a great leader. Part of that is leading *by example*. How tf can you be inspiring if you aren’t performing??? Show me ONE current captain who sucks at their position but is a good captain. You can’t. They all perform highly. If they don’t, they’re a bad captain.

    • @CorrionReap
      @CorrionReap 2 года назад +1

      @@wilhelmvg9978 if you think points are the only thing that makes you good at hockey you are sorely mistaken.......

    • @m-agirouard3329
      @m-agirouard3329 2 года назад

      @@wilhelmvg9978 you dont get it

  • @adamc1ark811
    @adamc1ark811 3 года назад +3

    there was a kid in my team who lost captaincy. It was the coaches son and he thought he was better than everyone else when the whole season he had only scored once. We lost a game 5-1 one time so he decided it would be a good idea to smash his stick against the ice so hard that it snapped, pushed one of the parents, and shouted profanity at the rest of us. Needless to say, he lost captaincy and was moved down to the second line

  • @ponyboy9765
    @ponyboy9765 4 года назад +39

    It’s hard being a sharks fan 😭

    • @beasty6353
      @beasty6353 3 года назад

      Yep it sucks🥺

    • @yvngtay4970
      @yvngtay4970 3 года назад

      Well I’m in sj and a sharks fan buttt I don’t follow hockey so it’s easy for me😂

  • @ian4109
    @ian4109 4 года назад +20

    1:53 The King's didn't make it to the Conference Finals in 09-10

  • @DickLongFlop14
    @DickLongFlop14 4 года назад +18

    After watching this whole video, I still have no idea why any of these players were stripped of the captaincy.

    • @elGringo69
      @elGringo69 4 года назад +17

      Brown: underperforming, ice time being taken away. Cant have a C riding the bench.
      Marleau: The sharks took the C and the A's because the team was underperforming.
      Modano: He just gave up trying at the end of his career and Morrow was just hitting his prime.
      Hull: Keenan said Hull was "taking nights off". Hull started talking shit about Keenan to the media. Keenan took the C
      Thornton: Exact same reason as Marleau just like 4 years later. Sharks took the C and A's
      She put in very little effort in this video, she would have had her C taken away as well.

    • @unbiasbruinsfan7330
      @unbiasbruinsfan7330 3 года назад +1

      @@elGringo69 thanks my guy

  • @Austopsy
    @Austopsy 3 года назад +2

    Mike Modano did retire in Dallas. He just did not play a final full season with us. We signed him for one day just so he could rightfully retire with us.

  • @PlasmicPenny
    @PlasmicPenny 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video! Also- your outdo music sounds incredibly familiar but I can’t pinpoint it- what is it from?

  • @prodbyjdot
    @prodbyjdot 4 года назад +2

    Love your videos. Do 5 best defenseman captains

  • @westonbadke5434
    @westonbadke5434 3 года назад +3

    Could have added Roberto Luongo as Canucks Captain upon Naslund Retirement. Then passing the C on to Sedin!

  • @isabelas.5536
    @isabelas.5536 4 года назад +3

    Nice videos all your videos are aweome

  • @shaylagorkoff1885
    @shaylagorkoff1885 4 года назад

    Also I love your videos! These are the best hockey videos on RUclips

  • @musicman76enator
    @musicman76enator 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video!! Great analysis too, I like how you go in depth about why the captaincy for these players got taken away. Keep up the good work. 🙂

  • @shaylagorkoff1885
    @shaylagorkoff1885 4 года назад +3

    My dad is a fan of the Montreal Canadiens and he says that their captains don't lose captaincy, they get traded

  • @gerardvinet8448
    @gerardvinet8448 3 года назад +4

    The agony of a great sport , thanx !!When it comes down to motivation of a team , that's evident .

  • @paolabelan8211
    @paolabelan8211 2 года назад +1

    Alyssa I never comment, but I have to tell you I just love your videos!!!!! It shows dedication and research (so much) and not baseless opinions. Just love your content. Cheers from Chile 🇨🇱.

  • @TheFloyd87
    @TheFloyd87 3 года назад +5

    I bought a sharks jersey with Thornton's name on the back in the winter of 2008 and I told the store owner I wanted the C on my jersey instead of the A. Thornton was the captain of the sharks yet. I had the C on my jersey before Thornton had the C on his jersey. Now Thornton isn't captain anymore and I still have the C on my jersey.

  • @liammac5540
    @liammac5540 3 года назад +9

    There are a number of discrepancies and misinformation contained in this video.

  • @TrevGee75T
    @TrevGee75T 4 года назад +32

    Why do people think players wear the c because they're a good player?

    • @bdog4280
      @bdog4280 4 года назад +3

      All Captains are good players , a lot have been great players .

    • @emilelocas5496
      @emilelocas5496 4 года назад +2

      Bdog not true

    • @ignitefifahd8017
      @ignitefifahd8017 4 года назад +13

      It’s more about being a leader. For example, this year in Vancouver Bo Horvat got the C due to his leadership ability despite Elias Pettersson being the team’s best player

    • @landonleavitt7836
      @landonleavitt7836 4 года назад +1

      Stupidity is why some think wearing the c means your good

    • @phillipleblanc7823
      @phillipleblanc7823 4 года назад +1

      they're not their

  • @nathancrain1445
    @nathancrain1445 4 года назад +4

    Keep up the good work love your content!!

  • @runwithkings20
    @runwithkings20 3 года назад +1

    It's crazy, Brownie won two cups as a Captain. But got better after losing the C on his jersey

  • @chazmxo
    @chazmxo 4 года назад

    Videos are amazing keep it up thx for keeping me entertained

  • @LeoMajor1
    @LeoMajor1 4 года назад +1

    Top Hockey content makers.
    Alyssa Hope, The Hockey Guy, Adam Couser, Graviteh and OhNyquist

    • @Redditaurus
      @Redditaurus 4 года назад

      Id replace ohnyquist with rob talks hockey

    • @Redditaurus
      @Redditaurus 3 года назад

      @Mike Schwab ohnyquist*

    • @ignitefifahd8017
      @ignitefifahd8017 3 года назад

      Damn no love for my boy Neil from Post2Post

    • @sayswho3606
      @sayswho3606 3 года назад

      top shelf hockey

  • @StonedSpagooter
    @StonedSpagooter 4 года назад +7

    LA winning a cup in 20 games is not appreciated as much as it should be an average of 4-1 a series for a team that truly was not the best every year they made it is something to be proud of AND THEN winning the cup coming in dead last in the conference? Jeeeebbusss

    • @petec9201
      @petec9201 4 года назад +3

      Probably the most dominant Stanley Cup of the decade.

    • @Redditaurus
      @Redditaurus 4 года назад +2

      they were up 3-0 on presidents trophy winning, vancouver, before losing game 4, then won gm5. They then swept the #2 seed in st louis, who set a post-expansion era record with 155 goals against (excluding the '95 and '13 lockouts) before upsetting the coyotes in the same fashion as the canucks. Up 3-0, lose one, then close it in 5. Although...phoenix didnt deserve 3rd place as they were 6th in points in the western conference, even fewer than their first-round opponent (chicago). They only clinched 3rd spot on behest of winning their division.
      Looking at the finals, now, its a cinderella story even more epic then the 2010 eastern conference finals - when philly, 7th, defeated montreal, 8th, in five games. the flyers pulled off a reverse-sweep vs boston, whilst the canadiens overcame a 1-3 deficit over washington, then took defending cup champions, pittsburgh, to 7, and won - as the devils, who ranked 6th in east, upset 2 teams, including the second best squad that season in the rangers on their way to making the cup final. in a truly legendary ending, the series lasted 6 games.. the one boring part is that l.a, again, took a 3-0 advantage. as such, new jersey was no match for the kings, whom i believe finished 10-1 on the road and, i believe, their only road loss came in g5 of the scf.
      if im right on something, that makes them the only club in nhl history to start 3-0 in *every* round

    • @Redditaurus
      @Redditaurus 4 года назад

      edit: 3-0 in a 3 round format

    • @Redditaurus
      @Redditaurus 3 года назад

      @Mike Schwab they weren't last, they were 8th

  • @APWoodworking
    @APWoodworking 3 года назад

    Amazing video & love your voice

  • @sigep145
    @sigep145 3 года назад +1

    Comparing Brett Hull to Kessel is sacrilege. One is one of the greatest goal scorers in history and one of 5 players to ever score 50 goals in the first 50 games of the season and the other looks like an alcoholic stepdad.

  • @5ch3nk
    @5ch3nk 3 года назад +1

    Buffalo fan here just to say - Eichel deserves to be on this list

  • @robertfeinberg748
    @robertfeinberg748 Год назад

    Alyssa, you are wonderful, and you should be named Captain. BTW, I was a Captain in the Army Reserve.

  • @D-Fens_1632
    @D-Fens_1632 4 года назад +5

    25 years later the hatred for Mike Keenan in St. Louis is remarkable. Don't even mention his name if you're in town and hanging out with hockey fans.

  • @JadenJDH
    @JadenJDH Год назад +1

    1:03 brown and Avery lol

  • @dillon6320
    @dillon6320 3 года назад +1

    Pacioretty is another captain that was stripped. By being traded to Vegas because he would cry after every loss and say he doesnt know how to be a captain when he's not producing. He showed exactly how not to be a captain. Love him just not captain material.

  • @andyc9979
    @andyc9979 3 года назад +1

    Keenan sounds like a great guy

  • @CarbageMan
    @CarbageMan 2 года назад

    Seems like the chronology was off on Brown. The LA Kings lost in the conference finals between Stanley Cup wins. They lost in the first round before the first championship. They missed the playoffs after the second.

  • @shashie2158
    @shashie2158 3 года назад +1

    Modano should've never been captain. They just thought it was the thing to do. He was an amazing player, no doubt, but he lacked the grit to be a truly effective captain. Morrow was a much better choice. As far as captaincy goes, MiniMo > MightyMo any day of the week. Jamie was a great choice as well.

  • @psychodadjesse
    @psychodadjesse 4 года назад

    Amazing video Alyssa keep up the great work

  • @alexspagnuolo598
    @alexspagnuolo598 Год назад

    The kings didn't make the conference finals any time before they won the Cup in 2012 since 1993.

  • @chuckiesears1628
    @chuckiesears1628 4 года назад +2

    I like your videos

  • @SpicyIrish
    @SpicyIrish 4 года назад +2

    I think a major one that comes to mind was Mike Keenan stripping Trevor Linden of his C in Vancouver.

    • @ignitefifahd8017
      @ignitefifahd8017 3 года назад +1

      Sean Curry That still pisses me off, Fuck Messier

    • @SpicyIrish
      @SpicyIrish 3 года назад +1

      @@ignitefifahd8017 I think it still pisses us all off to this day!

    • @westonbadke5434
      @westonbadke5434 3 года назад

      He was traded to Montreal.

    • @ignitefifahd8017
      @ignitefifahd8017 3 года назад

      Weston Badke Not until halfway through the season, and he was traded to the islanders, not Montreal

  • @broadstreet21
    @broadstreet21 2 года назад

    I agree Brown deserves respect. He was the leader for the Cup winning Kings. But Kopitar seemed like a more logical fit for captain, being the franchise player.

    • @indianajones5037
      @indianajones5037 2 года назад

      Brown leads like a captain kopitar is an incredible player not an incredible leader

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 2 года назад

      @@indianajones5037 Being a great player doesn't make you a great leader, I agree. But I thought Kopitar was also the latter. Him or Drew Doughty.

    • @indianajones5037
      @indianajones5037 2 года назад

      @@broadstreet21 I just always felt Brown earned that C and should Captain the team until he leaves or retires. He’s the only Cup champion captain. Kings really messed up. Especially leaking it to the media prior. Brown turned la into a franchise that players wanted to come to. He set the standard so high

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 2 года назад

      @@indianajones5037 Well okay, there's no question he was a great leader and failing to keep up his scoring takes nothing away from that.

  • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
    @PRYVTgomerPYLE 3 года назад +1

    I think the Sharks management dropped the ball. Pat should have stayed the captain, period. Maybe they would have won a cup? Who knows...

  • @ryanthemepark
    @ryanthemepark 2 года назад

    Kings lost in the first round in 2010 and 2011 before winning the Cup in 2012. They lost in the Conference Finals in 2013 before winning the Cup again in 2014.

  • @raran44
    @raran44 Год назад

    Modano should have been captain of the Stars the whole time he was with the Franchise (MIN and DAL). Hatcher and Morrow can piss off.

  • @jacobsmith6437
    @jacobsmith6437 3 года назад

    I met Brendan morrow and mike madonno in the same day once, mikes a great guy and morrow is quiet and seemed pissed anyone cane up to him

  • @broadstreet21
    @broadstreet21 2 года назад +1

    Far as Marleau, it's simple as this, the Sharks always underperformed in the playoffs. They neededa new leader.

  • @generalbullmoose
    @generalbullmoose 4 года назад

    How about Brian Leetch in New York? Theoren Fleury in Calgary?

    • @MrNWA4Life
      @MrNWA4Life Год назад

      Theo didn't want to be captain.

  • @lisapecora
    @lisapecora 3 года назад +8

    I love ur vids just pls get a better microphone

  • @Austrocious
    @Austrocious Год назад

    From a Stars fans perspective, Modano was a great player, but never really a good captain. Morrow played harder than anyone else, and he was vocal and well-loved by the team and fans. We do have a history of big physical captains though, hatcher, morrow, benn.

  • @hsl3255
    @hsl3255 4 года назад +1

    dont worry my left ear is informed

  • @leeviahvenjarvi372
    @leeviahvenjarvi372 4 года назад +7

    I always remember Brown as kings captain but not kimopitar lol

    • @NFoot10
      @NFoot10 4 года назад +2

      At the time the Kings needed a change,and Brown himself needed a change,but to this day he's the true captain.

    • @OTBK..
      @OTBK.. 4 года назад +2

      Kimopitar??

    • @leeviahvenjarvi372
      @leeviahvenjarvi372 4 года назад

      @@OTBK.. kopitar I just cant type

    • @razorare6557
      @razorare6557 2 года назад

      SUOMI!

    • @MrNWA4Life
      @MrNWA4Life Год назад

      @@leeviahvenjarvi372
      Or spell. ...

  • @burritobrosvideos8060
    @burritobrosvideos8060 2 года назад

    You showed zetterberg but he was never stripped of his captaincy. Whats the deal?

  • @robertfeinberg748
    @robertfeinberg748 Год назад

    Marleau also had an iron man streak.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 3 года назад

    As a Canucks fan, Trevor Linden having his C stripped for Messier while we slept as the Canucks were in Japan was classless. We all know how that turned out.
    In regards to these players, it's weird...Marleau is a great leader in mentoring young kids in the league, he's legendary for that. However for traditional captaincy, not really.

    • @eastbro
      @eastbro 3 года назад

      You can thank Mike Keenan that.
      Keenan also screwed Grant Ledyard by telling the players he quit the team when Ledyard himself asked Keenan for time away to be with his wife going through cancer treatment back in Texas.

    • @ChrisBrown-pz2gu
      @ChrisBrown-pz2gu 2 года назад

      That's a classless move by Canucks management.

  • @tysonhockey1967
    @tysonhockey1967 3 года назад +1

    Yes

  • @flyersrobbedagain6770
    @flyersrobbedagain6770 2 года назад

    Can also add eric lindros

  • @steezereid
    @steezereid 4 года назад +3

    Brett Hull is one of the best players of all time. Phil Kessel isn’t even on the same planet. Other than that - solid video!

    • @AlyssaHope
      @AlyssaHope  4 года назад +1

      I just meant playing style, not production based.
      But thank you!

    • @steezereid
      @steezereid 4 года назад

      Alyssa Hope that makes a lot more sense then 😊

  • @zackyc1841
    @zackyc1841 2 года назад

    *Vladimir Tarasenko 👍 this video*

  • @ChrisHayworth100
    @ChrisHayworth100 2 года назад

    Hey RUclips have blocked your membership, find out what they are playing at.

  • @JuanCarlosArchAngel
    @JuanCarlosArchAngel 4 года назад +2

    Go kings go🏒👑

  • @greatgasby7090
    @greatgasby7090 3 года назад

    You forgot Derek McKenzie losing his C to Alexander Barkov

  • @chuckiesears1628
    @chuckiesears1628 4 года назад +2

    Hi

  • @MrJayp15401
    @MrJayp15401 3 года назад

    All i can say as a MN native is thank god Koivu is gone and that Parise didnt get the "C." Parise should be on her "diva" list.

  • @joeshittheragman6252
    @joeshittheragman6252 4 года назад +4

    Its unreal that the sharks have no cups

    • @larsjoehnk8457
      @larsjoehnk8457 4 года назад

      JoeShit TheRagMan Tell me about it...it puzzles me as a Sharks fan. Just don’t have enough heart or will to want to win the cup.

  • @MaxwellsAxiom
    @MaxwellsAxiom 3 года назад +1

    Brown will go down as the 1st American captain to win a cup but also the most forgettable captain to EVER win a cup.

  • @pinkjay1015
    @pinkjay1015 3 года назад

    Hey hey didn’t talk about Crosby what’s up with that

  • @ThEAiRsOfTMaSsAcRe
    @ThEAiRsOfTMaSsAcRe 3 года назад +2

    Brown lost his captaincy shortly after the majority of his team including himself locked and barricaded their coach out of the dressing room during a losing streak and cleaned up and left the building so they wouldn't have to deal with the upset coach

  • @BlakeGunHunter
    @BlakeGunHunter 4 года назад +7

    Seems like every video Alyssa makes is just wrong.

  • @generalbullmoose
    @generalbullmoose 4 года назад +1

    Modano is the best American player ever. Not captain material, though.

  • @itzdudegaming9698
    @itzdudegaming9698 4 года назад +2

    15th

  • @westalkshockey231
    @westalkshockey231 4 года назад

    Love it

  • @jamendailey7372
    @jamendailey7372 4 года назад

    Joe

  • @rileykazama3145
    @rileykazama3145 4 года назад +1

    Boom

  • @seanomalley8849
    @seanomalley8849 4 года назад

    I just want my Rangers to name a captain

    • @Aebexz
      @Aebexz 4 года назад

      Who do you think will get it?

    • @ZaneZephyr
      @ZaneZephyr 3 года назад

      Zibanejad should absolutely get it

  • @nolanhurd7202
    @nolanhurd7202 4 года назад

    I bet he will let’s go pens 🐧🐧🐧

  • @marymccrorie6065
    @marymccrorie6065 4 года назад

    968th

  • @diemonfan5276
    @diemonfan5276 4 года назад +1

    1st

  • @judeau9151
    @judeau9151 3 года назад

    imo you make your franchise look like a JOKE if you give a free agent signing the C

  • @AMT1345
    @AMT1345 4 года назад +1

    LETS GO PENGUINS

  • @SverigeiSverige
    @SverigeiSverige 3 года назад +1

    Get rid of the music!

  • @deegee5600
    @deegee5600 4 года назад

    Moral of the story if you play for the sharks you’ll probably get the C or an A sometime soon.

  • @waynedavis6760
    @waynedavis6760 3 года назад +1

    Doug Wilson is a joke.

  • @trxv.
    @trxv. 4 года назад

    why is Logan Couture a captain?

  • @zalapski9399
    @zalapski9399 3 года назад

    Being a captain means you’re the highest paid player on a team.

  • @simonmarshall19
    @simonmarshall19 12 дней назад

    The LA Kings are the reason are so boring when they won the Cup . Yawn

  • @sure2fckitupguy
    @sure2fckitupguy 3 года назад

    wrong! Kings did not make the... oh , hell forget about it woman, smh.

  • @randomhockeyyoutuber
    @randomhockeyyoutuber 4 года назад +2

    Alyssa hope won’t pin this comment let’s go pens

  • @nickg6242
    @nickg6242 4 года назад +1

    I wouldn’t say you’re stupid, however, you should do get factual information to describe through your videos rather than biased information.

  • @conorwreckoner
    @conorwreckoner 3 года назад

    Fucking learn to pronounce the names correctly

  • @kevincrawford5187
    @kevincrawford5187 4 года назад +2

    1st