@@TheGuardiangelboyIf you force everyone else's turns like with DanceDanceDance, you cycle them out of their buffs faster. This is especially detrimental for dps who deal their damage off-turn with follow-ups, counters, etc. You also give yourself less time to build energy/SP for upcoming enemy waves.
@@TheGuardiangelboy If you use Sparkle's ULT on the carry's turn, it will technically become a 3-turn Cipher buff because the buff won't tick down after the carry's turn. It just happens to be like this for no good reason.
It's one thing for people to write about useful techniques like these, but thoroughly explaining a technique's mechanics and even showcasing them in practice makes these techniques much easier to understand. Thanks Dreamy!
I do agree that 3 turns would be the sweet spot if you are aiming for farming really high speed relic setups. I've seen some showcases that are in the multi dupe spending range with some very optimal relics, and even they tend to just aim for 3 turns on Sparkle. E.g. I've seen an E6 S1 Dawn QQ showcase that used an E2 S5 DDD Sparkle, and an E1S1 Ruan Mei with a very fast E1S5 Tutorial Max ERR Silver Wolf, and they were doing enough dmg to kill Death Meme in MoC 12 in one QQ burst. Lowering the dmg significantly to go for 4 turns just doesn't make sense, even on the surface. This is because going from 2 turns to 3 turns can sort of end up as a 50% increase in turn output in a way. But, 3 to 4 by comparison is only a 33% increase in turn value, and it's coming at the expense of each of those individual turns being a fair bit weaker. So, Dreamy is spot on about that for sure. really awesome showcase as always Dreamy. ♥
Besides the great showcase, I haven’t seen sushang in forever. It does make sense that ruan mei and sparkle tremendously with sp and # of actions in a cycle with her esp in a sustainless setup but I kind of just forgot about her. Nice to see her again.
Really great to hear your thoughts and considerations as always! And also glad to see my favourite scared to death Cloud Knight get a showcase! Keep up the great work!
One thing i realized is that Sparkle's LC can make a funny build meme, for example the one i invented "The Real Hanya Sub DMG", since Hanya can refill SP it still counts as the user the one that refill it, its very good, maybe try at least using a meme build to see if its viable or not
i love these showcases dreamy! even if i dont get my sparkle till her banner ends, im gonna spend on the last day. im now on 18 pulls. bailu had to destroy my dreams 😢
Thanks for the great video. It was truly entertaining to watch 3 actions sparkle party. Btw do you mind sharing the speed calculator you mentioned at the beginning of the video? I always find it difficult to calculate the action value while taking messenger 4 set and ddd effect into account.
Dreamy, not sure if you're into it but, can you also create a tech for the DOUBLE AV Sparkle + Bronya. I know most people have already thought about it prerelease but I haven't seen anyone create as decent as one of your guides.
@ayadreamy Notification has been turned on, and BTW, I have eagle set at 54 speed, Tingyun e6+messenger set at 160 speed+ddd, if I pull sparkle, is that 54 speed for 3 turns ?
One tech you can use to lower Sparkle's speed requirements even more is to use Vonwacq on her. But I guess the problem is that if you advance your DPSs your other non-Ruanmei supports wouldn't have their buffs up yet, unless they're also superspeed with Vonwacq.
I have a weird question, since I have E6 Hanya , can I use her to boost sparkle speed to 200? I use e2 sparkle with E2 dan , will using hanya ult on sparkle and giving hanya DDD to achieve 200spd sparkle be worth it vs using her ult on dan for the 64% atk boost, or vs using TY?
It's crazy how wanting to invest in Eidolons for your characters to do more damage could potentially screw you, all because of how the cycles work and ideally making use of each turn to prepare for the next wave
Hii Dreamy! I have one question I've been thinking, how would you play Sparkle E6 with Topaz and Ratio? I think fast Sparkle might be the best and both dps with atk boots, advance Topaz when debuff is needed and afterwards just advance Ratio, I'd like to know your opinions
@@LisaraScarlet Interesting, do you think it's worth playing around with the topaz debuff (E1) alongside ratio or just let them focus different targets?
So that means to make it work, a support with 4pc messenger+ DDD is required to be with sparkle too? Would you recommend building Hanya for the 2nd MOC team, to give more flexibility?
Using your calculator, what would the speed requirement go to if I have a full Eagle of Twilight set instead of the 2nd S5 DDD? And what if Ruan Mei was removed for Silver Wolf in order to get Wind weaknesses, would the speed tiers required still be achievable?
Hmm honestly 171 speed on 2 hacker and rainbow seems easier than going the Eagle route. I tried it and got to 159 speed which is technically enough but still requires Tingyun. DDD affects the holder too right? But man my Eagle set looks like a whale, I don’t refresh and have 100 fuel left with supply pass only. I got so lucky on some of those pieces it’s not even funny. I can totally believe that’s a top 0.01% kind of a deal.
Is someone on the team with 4pc Healing bonus? because with sparkle you start at 6 sp, but you started at 7. Also, how much speed do you need on sparkle to pull this off with only tingyun on spd set with s5 ddd?
I mean ruan mei LC is still alot of dmg. You will see it on 99% of 0 cycles, same with her E1. I had to drop her for my qq 0 cycle as she doesn't offer early as much at E0 S0 for that content
Yeah every single one of these videos just proves that I don’t understand anything about this game Lmao I unga bunga everything pretty much, but this looks really fun
How important is Ruan Mei's LC in these types of strategies? Additionally, would it still make sense to try this with Tingyun not being faster than Sparkle? Thanks!
Tingyun needs 172 SPD. -11 with Ruan Mei. Doable w/o Sparkle and Ruan Mei signature. If you don't RNG Tingyun getting hit once, she will need to do Skill-Skill-Skill to have her ULT ready as soon as you enter 2nd wave.
@@LisaraScarlet what about dps though.. as the 1st graph i saw smt like dps requie like 90.5 spd but sushang have 107.. not even include ruanmei spd buff
@@LisaraScarlet The idea is to have 4 actions, on entry you use sparkle skill and push dps ahead of Bronya and then the usual slow Bronya playstyle, both Bronya and dps will spam skill every turn after first sparkle action
I have 2 Questions 1) Do i need DDD if soarkle is 160 speed and Vomwalc because i think soo i need. 2) my current Ruan me is 180 break 134 speed 2 Watchmaker 2 thief 2 Talia i am considering to switch her for vomwalc
@@islamghandour1184 Well, the question is confusing. Can you list down what you are trying to aim for? Like amount of action within 0-cycle, etc. Also, which char uses which LCs?
When I don't like you in some case to pokke video but I also like you video and will support it. Good show case. Human has emotion so sometime we just said something or do something wrong and that's it.
Oh and the reason why I don't recommend S5 Dance3x on Sparkle is due to its anti-synergy with her pseudo 3-turn Cipher buff.
can u explain this part further?
@@TheGuardiangelboyIf you force everyone else's turns like with DanceDanceDance, you cycle them out of their buffs faster. This is especially detrimental for dps who deal their damage off-turn with follow-ups, counters, etc.
You also give yourself less time to build energy/SP for upcoming enemy waves.
@@TheGuardiangelboy If you use Sparkle's ULT on the carry's turn, it will technically become a 3-turn Cipher buff because the buff won't tick down after the carry's turn. It just happens to be like this for no good reason.
@@LisaraScarlet omg i didnt know that wth.
@@LisaraScarlet Having Sparkle's E1 helps with this though right?
It's one thing for people to write about useful techniques like these, but thoroughly explaining a technique's mechanics and even showcasing them in practice makes these techniques much easier to understand. Thanks Dreamy!
Should I use ddd s1 on Ting or cogs?
@@marslemust9654ting ddd
Spark use that 16 buff next ally action
I do agree that 3 turns would be the sweet spot if you are aiming for farming really high speed relic setups. I've seen some showcases that are in the multi dupe spending range with some very optimal relics, and even they tend to just aim for 3 turns on Sparkle.
E.g. I've seen an E6 S1 Dawn QQ showcase that used an E2 S5 DDD Sparkle, and an E1S1 Ruan Mei with a very fast E1S5 Tutorial Max ERR Silver Wolf, and they were doing enough dmg to kill Death Meme in MoC 12 in one QQ burst. Lowering the dmg significantly to go for 4 turns just doesn't make sense, even on the surface. This is because going from 2 turns to 3 turns can sort of end up as a 50% increase in turn output in a way. But, 3 to 4 by comparison is only a 33% increase in turn value, and it's coming at the expense of each of those individual turns being a fair bit weaker.
So, Dreamy is spot on about that for sure. really awesome showcase as always Dreamy. ♥
Besides the great showcase, I haven’t seen sushang in forever. It does make sense that ruan mei and sparkle tremendously with sp and # of actions in a cycle with her esp in a sustainless setup but I kind of just forgot about her. Nice to see her again.
Really great to hear your thoughts and considerations as always! And also glad to see my favourite scared to death Cloud Knight get a showcase! Keep up the great work!
Me who have 134 spd sparkle: fk it we balll
Wow! Thanks for sharing your wisdom. Your side-tracking is very educational!
One thing i realized is that Sparkle's LC can make a funny build meme, for example the one i invented "The Real Hanya Sub DMG", since Hanya can refill SP it still counts as the user the one that refill it, its very good, maybe try at least using a meme build to see if its viable or not
I love your videos ♥
They're the most informative out there
I think it would be interesting to see misha in sparkle team that would be bonkers.
He will destroy ...
Excellent video, thank you for this.
I like these kind of videos. Entertaining to watch anddd i have no sparkle😔
Surely i will get sparkle before the end of her banner...SURELY
RNGBLESS
peak glazing lmao
Good lucks 🎉
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really appreciate your hard work always
i love these showcases dreamy! even if i dont get my sparkle till her banner ends, im gonna spend on the last day. im now on 18 pulls. bailu had to destroy my dreams 😢
amazing Hanabi videos Dreamy
How did you get the last skill point? 06:09
Are you referring to Sushang's E1?
Sushang E1 grants her a skill point every time she uses her skill against a weakness broken enemy
Thanks for the great video. It was truly entertaining to watch 3 actions sparkle party.
Btw do you mind sharing the speed calculator you mentioned at the beginning of the video? I always find it difficult to calculate the action value while taking messenger 4 set and ddd effect into account.
Dreamy, not sure if you're into it but, can you also create a tech for the DOUBLE AV Sparkle + Bronya. I know most people have already thought about it prerelease but I haven't seen anyone create as decent as one of your guides.
I guess I'll make one today.
@@LisaraScarletOh yes! as a Blade enjoyer I'll look forward to it
@ayadreamy
Notification has been turned on, and BTW, I have eagle set at 54 speed, Tingyun e6+messenger set at 160 speed+ddd, if I pull sparkle, is that 54 speed for 3 turns ?
@@FunTimeGhz It's 164 SPD Sparkle with Eagle set to get 3 actions with the help of Tingyun.
@@LisaraScarlet
Thanks. I have e1s1 Bronya so is Sparkle+Bronya video still coming?
One tech you can use to lower Sparkle's speed requirements even more is to use Vonwacq on her. But I guess the problem is that if you advance your DPSs your other non-Ruanmei supports wouldn't have their buffs up yet, unless they're also superspeed with Vonwacq.
Doesn't work for 2nd wave.
I have a weird question, since I have E6 Hanya , can I use her to boost sparkle speed to 200? I use e2 sparkle with E2 dan , will using hanya ult on sparkle and giving hanya DDD to achieve 200spd sparkle be worth it vs using her ult on dan for the 64% atk boost, or vs using TY?
IMO it's not really worth. Giving the ATK% boost as well on Sparkle is just wasteful.
Sushang my beloved
It's crazy how wanting to invest in Eidolons for your characters to do more damage could potentially screw you, all because of how the cycles work and ideally making use of each turn to prepare for the next wave
I got two Sparkle in a pull so I got her at E1 for my mono Quantum team
Hii Dreamy! I have one question I've been thinking, how would you play Sparkle E6 with Topaz and Ratio? I think fast Sparkle might be the best and both dps with atk boots, advance Topaz when debuff is needed and afterwards just advance Ratio, I'd like to know your opinions
I think there's no reason to advance Topaz at all. Just keep advancing Ratio.
@@LisaraScarlet Interesting, do you think it's worth playing around with the topaz debuff (E1) alongside ratio or just let them focus different targets?
@@jc_mosh Better let them focus on 1 at a time since Proof of Debt automatically switches when the target dies anyways.
@@LisaraScarlet Thanks Dreamy! I appreciate your thoughts
So that means to make it work, a support with 4pc messenger+ DDD is required to be with sparkle too?
Would you recommend building Hanya for the 2nd MOC team, to give more flexibility?
I recommend building all Harmonies for flexibility.
Using your calculator, what would the speed requirement go to if I have a full Eagle of Twilight set instead of the 2nd S5 DDD?
And what if Ruan Mei was removed for Silver Wolf in order to get Wind weaknesses, would the speed tiers required still be achievable?
Pretty sure just 4pc Eagle would mean you need 184 speed or something.
me with 151 spd sparkle with only 2p spd :- fk it i m gonna brute force everything
Hmm honestly 171 speed on 2 hacker and rainbow seems easier than going the Eagle route. I tried it and got to 159 speed which is technically enough but still requires Tingyun. DDD affects the holder too right? But man my Eagle set looks like a whale, I don’t refresh and have 100 fuel left with supply pass only. I got so lucky on some of those pieces it’s not even funny. I can totally believe that’s a top 0.01% kind of a deal.
Sushang best physical chick
Activate Human Torpedo!
Is someone on the team with 4pc Healing bonus? because with sparkle you start at 6 sp, but you started at 7. Also, how much speed do you need on sparkle to pull this off with only tingyun on spd set with s5 ddd?
Ok you explained it in the video with 171 sparkle, 181 with ruan mei. guess i can't do this then.
Ruan Mei is on 4pc Passerby .
I mean ruan mei LC is still alot of dmg. You will see it on 99% of 0 cycles, same with her E1. I had to drop her for my qq 0 cycle as she doesn't offer early as much at E0 S0 for that content
For Sushang, let's say both relics sets have great stats; which one would be be better to use, GOBS or COSB?
If enemy is weak to both Quantum and Physical, use Genius set. Otherwise, Champion set.
Yeah every single one of these videos just proves that I don’t understand anything about this game Lmao
I unga bunga everything pretty much, but this looks really fun
That's fine. It's human nature to be lazy sometimes. I might do a speed guide based on an analogy.
How important is Ruan Mei's LC in these types of strategies? Additionally, would it still make sense to try this with Tingyun not being faster than Sparkle? Thanks!
If you're talking about the energy regen, it was not particularly needed in this strategy.
Hold up. I know I can't replace these at all but if I transfer my Xueyi gear on Sushang does it make her viable? 😅
BE gears? Depends on the stats.
so uh.. may i asked how many spd required for other like tingyun and dps and is this possible without sparkle/ruan mei sig lc?
Tingyun needs 172 SPD. -11 with Ruan Mei. Doable w/o Sparkle and Ruan Mei signature. If you don't RNG Tingyun getting hit once, she will need to do Skill-Skill-Skill to have her ULT ready as soon as you enter 2nd wave.
@@LisaraScarlet what about dps though.. as the 1st graph i saw smt like dps requie like 90.5 spd but sushang have 107.. not even include ruanmei spd buff
@@nguyenduchuy52 No need for SPD on the carry.
@@LisaraScarlet thank you for the answer👌
@@LisaraScarlet may i asked if 172spd tingyun is already with - 11 from ruanmei or without it
What do you think about fast sparkle (160+ speed) with E2 Bronya (134 spd) and the dps with atk boots?
Not sure what the team is trying to aim. Can you elaborate?
@@LisaraScarlet The idea is to have 4 actions, on entry you use sparkle skill and push dps ahead of Bronya and then the usual slow Bronya playstyle, both Bronya and dps will spam skill every turn after first sparkle action
@@LisaraScarlet Also depending on 3rd harmony, sparkle may have to spam basics to have enough skill points
@@jc_mosh 4 actions on the carry?
someday 200 of speed, currently my sparkle has 150 of speed with set of hacker and broken keel crit dmg 235
Do you know where I can find the speed break point with DDD and eagle set for sparkle?
I used my calculator, you need 148 SPD Sparkle. This is still assuming Tingyun with S5 DDD + 4pc Messenger is in the team.
@@LisaraScarletI have 162 spd eagle and s1 ddd, is it enough?
@@marslemust9654 Is this assuming that Tingyun with 4pc Messenger + S5 DDD is in the team?
@@LisaraScarlet I have only one s1 ddd and messenger set
@@marslemust9654 Basically, S1 DDD and 4pc Messenger? Then I don't recommend this build. Use the slow Sparkle build I uploaded before this video.
Nice video
Dweamyyy 🥺🥺🥺 Jingyuan showcase?? 👉👈
I almost did a 0-cycle with JY earlier. The lack of trace levels is being problematic though.
@@LisaraScarlet aww okie I always believe in you my erudition queen
Do you like Sparkle sig? Dmg wise it seems same as Bronya LC but without free skill point.
It is actually a lot stronger than Battle Isn't Over.
so 164 spd with eagle 4pcs? PLUS DDD S5 and 1x 4pcs messenger?
Yes.
and thank you for your reply@@LisaraScarlet
@@derrymd IDK where you are getting those numbers and no, having another 4pc Messenger user doesn't help much.
Am I the only one who still doesnt have a copy of DDD 😔
Sparkle E0+Sig or E1+bronya LC dreamy?
If you're doing fast Sparkle, you can use Bronya LC and go for E1.
What's ur preferred speed on her tho for a DHIL team?
As fast as you can while DHIL uses ATK boots.
Ain't break effect set on sushang better than that physical one here ?
Overstacking BE kinda bad and sushang's e4 already offer a lot of BE❤
There's much more raw damage in this fight than break effect damage. If the enemy had near 700 toughness, I would swap over to BE rope.
I have 2 Questions 1) Do i need DDD if soarkle is 160 speed and Vomwalc because i think soo i need. 2) my current Ruan me is 180 break 134 speed 2 Watchmaker 2 thief 2 Talia i am considering to switch her for vomwalc
Vonwacq doesn't work for 2nd wave.
@@LisaraScarlet i am trying to get Ruan mei for 0 cycles clear like get her ult on first turn then good hopefully I won't need to do it again
@@islamghandour1184 Well, the question is confusing. Can you list down what you are trying to aim for? Like amount of action within 0-cycle, etc. Also, which char uses which LCs?
@@LisaraScarlet nvm gave it some thought your answer about the next phase is correct [ came back to my senses]
More actions with lower impact = Genshin impact
Less actions with high impact = Honkai impact
:WorryTiredOfYourShit:
So is a slow sparkle overall better?
I would say, yes. Not to mention, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier to build.
When I don't like you in some case to pokke video but I also like you video and will support it. Good show case. Human has emotion so sometime we just said something or do something wrong and that's it.
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