😅 When I was learning English my teachers were from many parts of the States but Northernmost and a couple of European teachers. I realized about different accents when I met people from Alabama and Tennessee 😅
I a non-native English speaker and I kinda wish for a british accent tbh but, I might gwt close but never nail it and I fine with that. And wanting a specific accent isn't a bad thing, as long as you aren't obsessed.
I a non native english speaker always wanted to learn a strong scottish sheperd accent, i think it sounds so cool. (ofc there are many scottish accents but to me almost all of them are very charming)
Oh watching this months later 😉 brings back the memories! We had so much fun that day and it shows in the video!!! I loved watching it, so hopefully other people did as well. Thank you for having me again on your channel and can't wait to see you both again! 🥰 밥 단디 챙겨묵고 잘 지내이소 빌리 샘! 알았제? 🤭
I'm interested in dialects because I love the way they sound. I just think their fun. They also get used quite a bit in humor, and I want to be able to better understand such jokes. But over all I just really enjoy the different sounds and ways of expressing. Thank you to all three participants, and anyone else who might of helped in this video's creation.
So one of the most practical reasons that really "spoke" to me was the fact that you have to learn the Korean language twice. Essentially, you're priming the language and better understanding it in all its glory. However, there are definitely "words" that just take you and make you sound like a super old person which will put you out of place. For example, not even the young dialect users will use some of those phrases. It's really just reserved for a certain generation or group of people because there's just so much weight behind some of those words that really don't apply to some individuals. I learned the Busan dialect cause I was working in Busan, and the Koreans seriously used it in the faculty whenever they could. Not saying I was forced, but it also really helped me in establishing a stronger connection with my peers and coworkers, not to mention the better language acquisition. I could go on, but I'll close here for now haha One of my favorite phrases: "머라씨부리삿노?!?" Which I'd say is the equivalent of "What are you talking about? Or "What are you saying?" Implying some confusion and profanity at the same time. Just fun to use, especially as a foreigner.
@@KoreanJream I actually learned it from a busan dialect channel. I think his name was Charlie, but he taught a lot of hard 사투리. All my Busan Korean friends were laughing too hard in the subway when they heard this. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
That's all very interesting. I'm Italian but I've been leaving in northern England for a long time. I knew "proper" English before moving there, but once I installed myself I naturally kept absorbing the natives' accent and sayings, so I ended up being the Italian girl with a strong Lancashire accent. The more I learnt the less my Italian was noticeable and the Lancashire accent would show. Lancashire natives hardly noticed it since it's the language they use everyday, they just thought I was very good at English, but when I went to London the friends I made there found my accent interesting and endearing. They kept asking me to pronounce words like "toast" and "upstairs", and laughed when I would say "a lickle bit" or " a bockle of water". I suppose my accent would've seemed out of place and sort of mocking if I didn't actually live in Lancashire, but living there made it normal and acceptable. I would've stand out more if I spoke with a London accent. But if I was still in Italy and I would've tried to learn English remotely with say, a Scottish accent, I wouldn't be able to learn it well since I didn't live there, and I would've just seemed silly. I think learning the base, sort of "proper" language is what foreigners should do, and if they move to a particular region their language will naturally morf and adapt to their surroundings, making them sound more and more like a native. That's how you pick up on accents and cadences, and you unlearn your prim, Google translate-like accent to make space for a more fluid, lived in, spoken one. But no, I don't think it should be something you learn remotely. It should be an organic progression.
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I think dialects are cool. I'd wanna learn Busan dialect because Jungkook is my bias 😁. And also, I just think it would be really good and impressive. I just wanna add that I could pick up on some of what you guys said in Korean, I had to read it most times because it was very fast, but I must say I feel proud considering I've been in a learning plateau.
appreciate all these good content on 사투리. before i (just abt to) learn korean, i was actually intrigued by the way ppl speak 사투리 in kdrama, that lead me to this channel ☺️
I think it makes the most sense to just have a general understanding of the dialects cause as you said it is probably more important in regards to listening than speaking. And also, as a native US English speaker I can barely understand deep southern accents either. 😅
This makes me feel better to hear that it's not because I speak Engrish! 🤭 In fact, my husband is American, and we always have CC or subtitles on when we watch any shows in English anyway...😏
영상 잘 봤습니다!! 저 같은 경우에는 사투리를 따로 공부해본 적은 없는 것 같지만 1년 동안 부산에서 지내보니까 억양은 무조건 따라하게 되더라고요!! 이제 서울로 이사가면 바로 적응돼서 표준어 쓰게 될건지 아니면 억양 계속 좀 남아있을 건지 궁금하네요 ㅋㅋ 이것도 사람마다 다르겠지만.. Great video!! For me I never sat down and studied dialect, but staying in Busan for a year made it impossible not to pick up any, especially the intonation!! Going to Seoul I'm curious to see if I'll just adapt quickly or if I'll just keep using that intonation for a while xD I'm sure this would be different for every person..
Personally I think that an accent it's not really important to learn especially if you're a beginner in the language, I do agree with the statement that it will make you work double and it takes more time. General expression or the most spoken words it must be your first step, after you are already intermediate - advance level I think it's okay. Again it comes back to the learners what's their main point. It's not necessary.
As a native English speaker who has lived in Texas and Alabama, and had German friends in both places… I can attest that it is really jarring to hear a non-native English speaker trying to adopt a southern accent. 😅 My family is german, so my ears are tuned to understand a German accent very easily. However, when someone with a German accent tries to speak “Texan”… it’s like it messes with the calibration and I have to work really hard to understand what they’re saying. 😂 I think the whole point of speaking a language is to be understood. So… unless you already have perfect pronunciation in your target language, I wouldn’t mess around with dialect or accents. But if you have a special gift for accents, or you’re ready for a new challenge, then good for you! 💪🏻 it’s definitely impressive if you can pull it off. But for most language learners, it’s a barrier to being understood by native speakers.
I would love to learn dialect. I had the same experience as Billy, where I moved to Daegu and learning Korean was hard because everyone to practice with spoke in satoori. However, I do see the value in learning standard korean first.
I really appreciate all these videos on dialects! you are right there isn't much materials to learn 사투리 from. For me the most interesting is when grammar particles change, like in 함경사투리 '을' changes to '으' and '를' to '르'. Ofc im never gonna use this but it is fun to know
Been living in Changwon for a year but just got new job in Busan. Love BTS so have picked up some phrases from Jimin and Jungjook. So it's fun to randomly use it with my boyfriend from Busan
Ive got this habit of picking up accents from the people I’m watching or speaking with. My native language is Dutch and English is my second language. Depending on who I’m talking to, my accent can really change. I’ve picked up on northern British, Irish, Aussie, and a lot of different American accents. And now that I’m learning korean, I’d occasionally pick up hints of an accent from my favourite artists and creators who speak with an accent! I think that’s pretty fun and probably a lot of language learners can relate to this.
When I first started learning Korean this happened to me. I honestly didn't know much about 사투리 when I first moved to Korea, so I'd hear BTS members and one of my friends speak and I just thought it was slang. So when I was speaking with other Koreans in Seoul I started using 사투리 without realizing and they were SO confused. And then I was really confused also because I thought my pronunciation was just off or something, but nope. I was speaking 부산 사투리 in Gangnam XD. I've been learning for about 3 years now so since then I can recognize it a little better but in the beginning I genuinely just thought I was learning slang (I'd type the words but tbh I have no idea how they're spelled I only spoke them ever... now my friends and I laugh about it but at the time I was so embarrassed haha)
About 7 years now I got interested and started learning Korean. I started with 한글 then once that made sense enough I was trying to learn lots of grammar and vocabulary. Only it wasn't "sticking" very well and I started to lose motivation cuz grammar and vocab wasn't very fun and I began to wonder if progressing was possible for me. One day I came across your (maybe first?) 사투리 video and even though most everything was far above my level at that time, after watching that video, like a wave of motivation went over me. Ever since I was very young, I've always found dialects fascinating and fun to learn (maybe cuz I have a slight one myself ㅎㅎ) Also I actually haven't had the chance yet to go to Korea, however thanks to your amazing videos, other great Korean teachers and some shows, I've managed to learn a fair share of 사투리 even without going to Korea, so while it is difficult to learn from far away its not so impossible ☺️ Thanks all always for your hard efforts and time put in. I and so many are ever grateful 😊
i would actually love to read a book on specific korean dialects, not so much because i want to be able to speak them but because i think they say something about the local culture and history in those areas. i know them in my own country, i know which dialects are from places where people are more religious, where they tend to swear more, what dialects differ the most from the standard dialect because the places used to be so remote and hard to get to, but i know very little about how culture, history and topography affects the korean language. i find that super interesting.
저도 스코틀랜드에서 사투리 엄청 강한 도시에 살거든요. 다른 영국지역안에 살고 있는 영어 원어민들은 제가 저휘 부모님이거나 친구랑 같이 이야기 할때 이해가 하나도 안돼요. 그런데 다른 지억에서 온 사람함께 이야기할때는 저의 사투리가 다 자동적으로 없어져죠. 그래도... 경상도의 사투리를 배운 관심이 조금 생겨지고 있는걸 인정해야 겠어요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
I'm a Korean and (British)English learner. It's absolutely frustrating when listening to scouse or Scotland accent 🥲 Despite the difficulty, I do love all of these.
I'm curious: I've been using Run BTS to help with my listening/speaking. There's one episode where they call their parents for help with trivia and you especially hear it with JK talking to his mom, but the rest of the episode it fades. When it comes to media, or with anyone aware they're being filmed, will they often adjust to standard? Have you noticed whether variety shows are less likely to do this than , say, something more scripted, like a drama?
In Japanese people say I talk like an anime character (mostly I think because of my exposure to Sailor Moon and other Japanese anime). In Korean the say I have a childish voice. My voice changes based on the language I am speaking. Is that normal? lol
I've just come back from Busan, lived there 6 months studying Korean at PNU. I love Busan and its people, I had the best experience ever! And I can confirm, I felt like Busan dialect is more about the intonation, unless you are dealing with older generations. I'm an intermediate Korean learner and all my teachers were from Busan, so at times they would 갑자기 stop and almost laugh, cause "죄송합니다 이건 너무 사투리였습니다" 😂😂 but yeah, I'm still far from being fluent in Korean, so I didn't go to Busan with the intention of picking up the dialect or the intonation. Although I think I did end up picking up the intonation a bit, but I wouldn't even notice myself, sometimes my Korean friends would just point it out laughing hahah I just remember one of my closest Korean friends, he's from Busan, doesn't speak any English, so with him it was just Korean or nothing. He would always be mindful about me not being fluent yet, so he wouldn't speak too fast, or he would try not to speak in 사투리 too much, but once I said something and he immediately replied "어디 있노?" and I just burst out laughing 😂
Once I have got the basics down, I am going to ask my friend to teach me their dialect. I studying Linguistics, and for it me it would be fascinating to be able to know the differences between the standard way of speaking and the dialects. I also want to move to an area where there is a very distinct dialect and then I want to learn it!
Like moving to the south and learning our accent and dialect. We have totally different words, vocabulary and intonation here. But if you are really good at making an entire sentence to 1 word, go for it. I would love to learn the Busan dialect mostly due to the cadence of it is similar to how we speak here where I am from.
Standard language is just one "dialect" becoming the basis for the "language". Thus all the dialects not chosen become "dialects" simple because they lucked out on being the standard
Kind of, but the standard is also the most commonly used one in the country and the one that's used for official usage (documents, etc.). It also changes over time.
I think it would be super useful to learn a dialect if you lived in an area where it was used often. But more so useful to understand what people are saying to you than speaking. I'm an American from the East Coast and I only understand deep Southern accents because that's where my dad's family is from. When I lived in the North of England, I felt like I was learning English all over again. lol But the longer I stayed, the more I understood and then I forgot American words for things. LOL
I watch the RUclips channel Korean Patch and he’s really into Busan dialect. He argues everyone should learn dialect. I think he’s right for people living in a region where they speak dialect long term only. My Japanese is more advanced than my Korean and I was thinking of learning Kansai dialect. I was thinking if I learned it even poorly it would be fun for reactions. After standard Japanese it’s easily the most common dialect but even so there’s nowhere near enough resources to learn the pitch accent or intonation. You would need to immerse yourself and do a lot of shadowing I think and you just can’t find enough content on RUclips and theres no shadowing textbooks. If you study expressions and grammar it still might be fun but without the intonation I think it will just sound weird. I mean, it’s not like my standard Japanese intonation which is far from perfect but correct at least sometimes. If I spoke Kansai dialect the intonation would just be wrong every time. Basically I decided not to learn dialect unless I’m going to live there. Part of the fun would be to get reactions out of people I think but people also judge you by the way you speak and even native speakers sometimes hide their dialect. This doesn’t seem like too big of a deal to me but something to consider if you plan to be a speaker of this language for real.
I tried taking some Kansai Japanese dialect lessons on italki and the tutor spoke standard Japanese to me unless she was reading the script she prepared. I asked her to speak dialect throughout the lesson and she couldn’t because I’m not a dialect speaker. It just wouldn’t come out. Obviously this will depend on the tutor but I’m betting she’s not the only person like this. Just getting Japanese people to speak Japanese to me instead of English (sometimes very bad English) took a long time. I had to become fluent. So getting them to speak dialect to me is another barrier. It just doesn’t come out naturally when speaking to a foreigner. So how do you practice it? 😂
This conversation is so odd, for Spanish people go out of their way to learn Mexican dialect Spanish, or Argentinian dialect Spanish. It's very normal and I think it's weird that you think it's weird
It's not quite the same as that. In those cases, Mexico is a separate country and has its own separate media, food, history, and culture. In the case of Korea, it's all one country and is *mostly* the same no matter where you go, with smaller regional differences. It might be more like specifically trying to learn one specific regional English dialect, like Appalachian English, instead of first learning standard American or British English.
It was so much fun to talk with my favorite teachers. And I was happy to share my experience about Busan dialect. 초대해 주셔서 감사합니다, 빌리 쌤! 😊
Disculpa Arah, pero me enamore de ti. Que puedo hacer..?
i never thought about it like if someones learning english and wants to speak like someone from texas omg
😅 When I was learning English my teachers were from many parts of the States but Northernmost and a couple of European teachers. I realized about different accents when I met people from Alabama and Tennessee 😅
I a non-native English speaker and I kinda wish for a british accent tbh but, I might gwt close but never nail it and I fine with that. And wanting a specific accent isn't a bad thing, as long as you aren't obsessed.
I a non native english speaker always wanted to learn a strong scottish sheperd accent, i think it sounds so cool. (ofc there are many scottish accents but to me almost all of them are very charming)
these "dialects" aren't "dialects". They're regional languages, that has slowly become more standardized or conforming to the Seoul accent
Oh watching this months later 😉 brings back the memories! We had so much fun that day and it shows in the video!!! I loved watching it, so hopefully other people did as well. Thank you for having me again on your channel and can't wait to see you both again! 🥰 밥 단디 챙겨묵고 잘 지내이소 빌리 샘! 알았제? 🤭
I'm interested in dialects because I love the way they sound. I just think their fun. They also get used quite a bit in humor, and I want to be able to better understand such jokes. But over all I just really enjoy the different sounds and ways of expressing. Thank you to all three participants, and anyone else who might of helped in this video's creation.
So one of the most practical reasons that really "spoke" to me was the fact that you have to learn the Korean language twice. Essentially, you're priming the language and better understanding it in all its glory. However, there are definitely "words" that just take you and make you sound like a super old person which will put you out of place. For example, not even the young dialect users will use some of those phrases. It's really just reserved for a certain generation or group of people because there's just so much weight behind some of those words that really don't apply to some individuals. I learned the Busan dialect cause I was working in Busan, and the Koreans seriously used it in the faculty whenever they could. Not saying I was forced, but it also really helped me in establishing a stronger connection with my peers and coworkers, not to mention the better language acquisition. I could go on, but I'll close here for now haha
One of my favorite phrases: "머라씨부리삿노?!?" Which I'd say is the equivalent of "What are you talking about? Or "What are you saying?" Implying some confusion and profanity at the same time. Just fun to use, especially as a foreigner.
머라씨부리삿노 made me laugh so hard ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@KoreanJream I actually learned it from a busan dialect channel. I think his name was Charlie, but he taught a lot of hard 사투리. All my Busan Korean friends were laughing too hard in the subway when they heard this. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
That's all very interesting. I'm Italian but I've been leaving in northern England for a long time. I knew "proper" English before moving there, but once I installed myself I naturally kept absorbing the natives' accent and sayings, so I ended up being the Italian girl with a strong Lancashire accent. The more I learnt the less my Italian was noticeable and the Lancashire accent would show. Lancashire natives hardly noticed it since it's the language they use everyday, they just thought I was very good at English, but when I went to London the friends I made there found my accent interesting and endearing. They kept asking me to pronounce words like "toast" and "upstairs", and laughed when I would say "a lickle bit" or " a bockle of water". I suppose my accent would've seemed out of place and sort of mocking if I didn't actually live in Lancashire, but living there made it normal and acceptable. I would've stand out more if I spoke with a London accent. But if I was still in Italy and I would've tried to learn English remotely with say, a Scottish accent, I wouldn't be able to learn it well since I didn't live there, and I would've just seemed silly. I think learning the base, sort of "proper" language is what foreigners should do, and if they move to a particular region their language will naturally morf and adapt to their surroundings, making them sound more and more like a native. That's how you pick up on accents and cadences, and you unlearn your prim, Google translate-like accent to make space for a more fluid, lived in, spoken one. But no, I don't think it should be something you learn remotely. It should be an organic progression.
Korean Arah is my tutor! Hopefully she can teach me some Busan dialect. Such an interesting video, Billy :-)
와! 아비온 씨, 반가워요. 😍 I will teach you some Busan dialect. See you soon! 😉
@@KoreanArah 그럼 이따 봐요 선생님!
I love Ulsan! I lived there in 2010 and 2011 and I still consider it my home away from home.
WOW!!! This is so cool! 😍 Glad to see someone calling Ulsan a home!
Oh~~!! Cool~~!! Thank you very much~~~!! Didn't know you made a video on this~~!! I suppose this would also apply to my wanting to learn Japanese as well.... Just found your channel~~!! New subscription~~!! Love your content so far~~!!! Kamsamnida~~!!!
I think dialects are cool. I'd wanna learn Busan dialect because Jungkook is my bias 😁. And also, I just think it would be really good and impressive. I just wanna add that I could pick up on some of what you guys said in Korean, I had to read it most times because it was very fast, but I must say I feel proud considering I've been in a learning plateau.
Oh yeah, that is one of the reasons why learning a dialect can be fun and useful personally for you! Go for it! 😃
appreciate all these good content on 사투리. before i (just abt to) learn korean, i was actually intrigued by the way ppl speak 사투리 in kdrama, that lead me to this channel ☺️
I think it makes the most sense to just have a general understanding of the dialects cause as you said it is probably more important in regards to listening than speaking. And also, as a native US English speaker I can barely understand deep southern accents either. 😅
This makes me feel better to hear that it's not because I speak Engrish! 🤭 In fact, my husband is American, and we always have CC or subtitles on when we watch any shows in English anyway...😏
I knew as soon as you said "just because I wanted to speak normal", you were going to be in trouble. 😅
I didn't miss my chance to tease him as soon as he spat that word out! 😁
@KoreanJream is so well spoken! (in English and Korean)
영상 잘 봤습니다!! 저 같은 경우에는 사투리를 따로 공부해본 적은 없는 것 같지만 1년 동안 부산에서 지내보니까 억양은 무조건 따라하게 되더라고요!! 이제 서울로 이사가면 바로 적응돼서 표준어 쓰게 될건지 아니면 억양 계속 좀 남아있을 건지 궁금하네요 ㅋㅋ 이것도 사람마다 다르겠지만..
Great video!! For me I never sat down and studied dialect, but staying in Busan for a year made it impossible not to pick up any, especially the intonation!! Going to Seoul I'm curious to see if I'll just adapt quickly or if I'll just keep using that intonation for a while xD I'm sure this would be different for every person..
부산에 사셨군요! 서울에 가면 아마 사람들이 신기해하는 경우가 꽤 있을 것 같아요! 😄 저도 하와이에서 6년을 살아서 가끔 하와이식 표현들이 나와요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 살다 보면 어쩔 수 없이 배우는 사투리들이 있죠!
@@KoreanJream 그러셨군요!! 😲
그런 것 같네요! 😄
Personally I think that an accent it's not really important to learn especially if you're a beginner in the language, I do agree with the statement that it will make you work double and it takes more time. General expression or the most spoken words it must be your first step, after you are already intermediate - advance level I think it's okay.
Again it comes back to the learners what's their main point.
It's not necessary.
반가운 선생님 두 분이 나오셨네요~❤
선생님 안녕하세요!
@@KoreanJream 네~ 여기서 뵈니 더 반갑네요! ㅎㅎ
As a native English speaker who has lived in Texas and Alabama, and had German friends in both places… I can attest that it is really jarring to hear a non-native English speaker trying to adopt a southern accent. 😅 My family is german, so my ears are tuned to understand a German accent very easily. However, when someone with a German accent tries to speak “Texan”… it’s like it messes with the calibration and I have to work really hard to understand what they’re saying. 😂 I think the whole point of speaking a language is to be understood. So… unless you already have perfect pronunciation in your target language, I wouldn’t mess around with dialect or accents. But if you have a special gift for accents, or you’re ready for a new challenge, then good for you! 💪🏻 it’s definitely impressive if you can pull it off. But for most language learners, it’s a barrier to being understood by native speakers.
I would love to learn dialect. I had the same experience as Billy, where I moved to Daegu and learning Korean was hard because everyone to practice with spoke in satoori. However, I do see the value in learning standard korean first.
This was fun. Try come to Hawaii and learn our "accent." 😉
I did! I lived in Hawaii for 6 years, so I say call flipflops slippers, and I still occasionally add "ya?" ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I really appreciate all these videos on dialects! you are right there isn't much materials to learn 사투리 from. For me the most interesting is when grammar particles change, like in 함경사투리 '을' changes to '으' and '를' to '르'. Ofc im never gonna use this but it is fun to know
Talk To Me In Korean has a Korean only course on the Gyeong-sang dialect which is quite interesting
Talk to Me in Korean literally has everything...!!!
Oh my goodness I started with Talk to me in Korean, I love their hosts until I discovered Billy 😂
Been living in Changwon for a year but just got new job in Busan. Love BTS so have picked up some phrases from Jimin and Jungjook. So it's fun to randomly use it with my boyfriend from Busan
Ive got this habit of picking up accents from the people I’m watching or speaking with. My native language is Dutch and English is my second language. Depending on who I’m talking to, my accent can really change. I’ve picked up on northern British, Irish, Aussie, and a lot of different American accents. And now that I’m learning korean, I’d occasionally pick up hints of an accent from my favourite artists and creators who speak with an accent! I think that’s pretty fun and probably a lot of language learners can relate to this.
When I first started learning Korean this happened to me. I honestly didn't know much about 사투리 when I first moved to Korea, so I'd hear BTS members and one of my friends speak and I just thought it was slang. So when I was speaking with other Koreans in Seoul I started using 사투리 without realizing and they were SO confused. And then I was really confused also because I thought my pronunciation was just off or something, but nope. I was speaking 부산 사투리 in Gangnam XD. I've been learning for about 3 years now so since then I can recognize it a little better but in the beginning I genuinely just thought I was learning slang (I'd type the words but tbh I have no idea how they're spelled I only spoke them ever... now my friends and I laugh about it but at the time I was so embarrassed haha)
영상 잘 봤습니다. 감사합니다.
About 7 years now I got interested and started learning Korean. I started with 한글 then once that made sense enough I was trying to learn lots of grammar and vocabulary. Only it wasn't "sticking" very well and I started to lose motivation cuz grammar and vocab wasn't very fun and I began to wonder if progressing was possible for me. One day I came across your (maybe first?) 사투리 video and even though most everything was far above my level at that time, after watching that video, like a wave of motivation went over me. Ever since I was very young, I've always found dialects fascinating and fun to learn (maybe cuz I have a slight one myself ㅎㅎ) Also I actually haven't had the chance yet to go to Korea, however thanks to your amazing videos, other great Korean teachers and some shows, I've managed to learn a fair share of 사투리 even without going to Korea, so while it is difficult to learn from far away its not so impossible ☺️ Thanks all always for your hard efforts and time put in. I and so many are ever grateful 😊
i would actually love to read a book on specific korean dialects, not so much because i want to be able to speak them but because i think they say something about the local culture and history in those areas. i know them in my own country, i know which dialects are from places where people are more religious, where they tend to swear more, what dialects differ the most from the standard dialect because the places used to be so remote and hard to get to, but i know very little about how culture, history and topography affects the korean language. i find that super interesting.
저도 스코틀랜드에서 사투리 엄청 강한 도시에 살거든요. 다른 영국지역안에 살고 있는 영어 원어민들은 제가 저휘 부모님이거나 친구랑 같이 이야기 할때 이해가 하나도 안돼요. 그런데 다른 지억에서 온 사람함께 이야기할때는 저의 사투리가 다 자동적으로 없어져죠. 그래도... 경상도의 사투리를 배운 관심이 조금 생겨지고 있는걸 인정해야 겠어요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
I'm a Korean and (British)English learner.
It's absolutely frustrating when listening to scouse or Scotland accent 🥲
Despite the difficulty, I do love all of these.
I heard that Busan dialect is a more masculine "tough guy" dialect.
I'm curious: I've been using Run BTS to help with my listening/speaking. There's one episode where they call their parents for help with trivia and you especially hear it with JK talking to his mom, but the rest of the episode it fades. When it comes to media, or with anyone aware they're being filmed, will they often adjust to standard? Have you noticed whether variety shows are less likely to do this than , say, something more scripted, like a drama?
Yup, idols usually try to speak with the standard Korean accent ;)
what they do is code switching, for ppl speak more than 1 language/dialect thats pretty natural
In Japanese people say I talk like an anime character (mostly I think because of my exposure to Sailor Moon and other Japanese anime). In Korean the say I have a childish voice. My voice changes based on the language I am speaking. Is that normal? lol
Welcome to Ulsan ❤
I've just come back from Busan, lived there 6 months studying Korean at PNU. I love Busan and its people, I had the best experience ever!
And I can confirm, I felt like Busan dialect is more about the intonation, unless you are dealing with older generations. I'm an intermediate Korean learner and all my teachers were from Busan, so at times they would 갑자기 stop and almost laugh, cause "죄송합니다 이건 너무 사투리였습니다" 😂😂 but yeah, I'm still far from being fluent in Korean, so I didn't go to Busan with the intention of picking up the dialect or the intonation. Although I think I did end up picking up the intonation a bit, but I wouldn't even notice myself, sometimes my Korean friends would just point it out laughing hahah
I just remember one of my closest Korean friends, he's from Busan, doesn't speak any English, so with him it was just Korean or nothing. He would always be mindful about me not being fluent yet, so he wouldn't speak too fast, or he would try not to speak in 사투리 too much, but once I said something and he immediately replied "어디 있노?" and I just burst out laughing 😂
Once I have got the basics down, I am going to ask my friend to teach me their dialect. I studying Linguistics, and for it me it would be fascinating to be able to know the differences between the standard way of speaking and the dialects. I also want to move to an area where there is a very distinct dialect and then I want to learn it!
Like moving to the south and learning our accent and dialect. We have totally different words, vocabulary and intonation here. But if you are really good at making an entire sentence to 1 word, go for it. I would love to learn the Busan dialect mostly due to the cadence of it is similar to how we speak here where I am from.
Standard language is just one "dialect" becoming the basis for the "language". Thus all the dialects not chosen become "dialects" simple because they lucked out on being the standard
Kind of, but the standard is also the most commonly used one in the country and the one that's used for official usage (documents, etc.). It also changes over time.
I think it would be super useful to learn a dialect if you lived in an area where it was used often. But more so useful to understand what people are saying to you than speaking. I'm an American from the East Coast and I only understand deep Southern accents because that's where my dad's family is from. When I lived in the North of England, I felt like I was learning English all over again. lol But the longer I stayed, the more I understood and then I forgot American words for things. LOL
Wow, I can now be the 15th comment on this video...this is the earliest I've been to watch yet another, mega valuable video from Billy샘...😎
I watch the RUclips channel Korean Patch and he’s really into Busan dialect. He argues everyone should learn dialect. I think he’s right for people living in a region where they speak dialect long term only. My Japanese is more advanced than my Korean and I was thinking of learning Kansai dialect. I was thinking if I learned it even poorly it would be fun for reactions. After standard Japanese it’s easily the most common dialect but even so there’s nowhere near enough resources to learn the pitch accent or intonation. You would need to immerse yourself and do a lot of shadowing I think and you just can’t find enough content on RUclips and theres no shadowing textbooks. If you study expressions and grammar it still might be fun but without the intonation I think it will just sound weird. I mean, it’s not like my standard Japanese intonation which is far from perfect but correct at least sometimes. If I spoke Kansai dialect the intonation would just be wrong every time. Basically I decided not to learn dialect unless I’m going to live there.
Part of the fun would be to get reactions out of people I think but people also judge you by the way you speak and even native speakers sometimes hide their dialect. This doesn’t seem like too big of a deal to me but something to consider if you plan to be a speaker of this language for real.
I tried taking some Kansai Japanese dialect lessons on italki and the tutor spoke standard Japanese to me unless she was reading the script she prepared. I asked her to speak dialect throughout the lesson and she couldn’t because I’m not a dialect speaker. It just wouldn’t come out. Obviously this will depend on the tutor but I’m betting she’s not the only person like this. Just getting Japanese people to speak Japanese to me instead of English (sometimes very bad English) took a long time. I had to become fluent. So getting them to speak dialect to me is another barrier. It just doesn’t come out naturally when speaking to a foreigner. So how do you practice it? 😂
In my next life I'll learn only Busan dialect, it just sounds me adorable ㅋㅋ
I agree! 🤭
In my next life, I want to be Blasian. Maybe half Korean, half Black. lol
This conversation is so odd, for Spanish people go out of their way to learn Mexican dialect Spanish, or Argentinian dialect Spanish. It's very normal and I think it's weird that you think it's weird
It's not quite the same as that. In those cases, Mexico is a separate country and has its own separate media, food, history, and culture. In the case of Korea, it's all one country and is *mostly* the same no matter where you go, with smaller regional differences. It might be more like specifically trying to learn one specific regional English dialect, like Appalachian English, instead of first learning standard American or British English.
I've done it for English might as well do it in Korean lol
I sometimes speak Korean in Gyeongsangdo dialect to my Korean friends but they always call me grandpa because of that 😭😂
exposed to standard "language" and there are regional accents