The Doug and Pat Show on Practice Amps from the 50's and 60's #1
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Doug and Pat take you back to a time when even the practice amps were high quality: Fender tweed Champ and Princeton, Black face Champ, Gibson GA5 Les Paul Jr, Les Paul TV and the Epiphone fire breather known as the Pacemaker and lastly to England for the original Vox AC4. We plug these little guys in and see what they can do. One output tube and tons of mojo, some rare and some not so rare. Also, where is Pat's pipe? Let's find out.
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Man that 335 through the Fender Tweed is early Clapton. Amazing demo guys.
Oh I'm English love your English accent made me laugh out loud cool shows just getting into them 👍thumbs up from across the pond fellas
"My granddaughter and her friends really like the smell of the cigar"
"Yeah, that's horrible, that's horrible...... ok let's start playin some amps"
Hahahahahaha absolutely hilarious love your guy's senses of humor how am I just discovering this series
The little tweed amp with the humbucker of the ES... this sound really reminds me of some early ZZ Top records!
I had a 59 Princeton and you are bringing back great memories... Great amp.
I play about 90% of the time through a silverface VibroChamp that I've recently had rebuilt by Andrews Amp Lab. It's nice and sweet with all knobs set between 6-8 and low gain setting on a boost pedal in front of it in the signal chain.
I got a lot of guitars and amps too, but the bigest lesson i learned watching you and though my own pkaying is that a good guitar pkayer with a good guitar sound like him/ her on any rig. God bless. Staying warm im my Doug and pat hat. I feel cool in it even if no one here in Ohio knows who you guys are. I do and love yall. And the kids really do love good smoke when they are trapped in it.
I still have MY 1ST AMP, I bought in1968, A 1967 (new) blackface Fender Twin Reverb, but I'm playing a class A amp and love the tone. You guys sound great, and I love the amps you played, I need more. Thanks for sharing.
New favorite show, rock on guys! Fully appreciate what you're doing, the old stuff is where it's at!
epiphone peacemaker, good for the heart and win hands down for the crunch register.
Hey, I used to smoke Swisher sweets! Also I am the guy who made the car comment. Lol. Love the show
Great to see why and how fenders' are another league... Loved the champs, tweed and black! Good you're back!
Its called the Doug and Pat show but you sit in Pat and Doug orientation. Love the show!
That was a cool video. That Princeton and the 335 just bounded together. Clear when strummed then the compression when you attack the strings. Love the videos guys thanks.
Old amps are statements of art from a bygone day and age; they speak of the people who made them and the values they held.
This is exactly how we feel. We're now into who was the President when they were built. Most of the ones we have are Eisenhower, some are Truman, a few Kennedy and some Johnson. Different times. D&P
Two year already? I picked up a 1960 5F2a Princeton. Awesome amp. Wish I had this amp in 1968. Tweed tone, you have to love it.
Thanks for the new video. Those 2 fenders really sound great.
Yet another GREAT clip - thanks guys ;)
I really like what you've done on this.....being an old dog myself, I really never got to hear all these little amps that were amazingly passed up by myself and most of those folks I hung out with, who shared the same passion way back yonder (we wanted the big amps!)....good job! We also didn't mic our amps thru the PA back then. PS - not to mention how much easier these are on an aging back.....lol
Vox are beautiful and generally sound fantastic.
Fantastic vid! Glad you came back! Actually I was recently looking to get a vintage practice/recording amp. I will probably go with 60s Vibro Champ. As I said, phenomenal work! Keep it up! :)
ALotOfBottle You won't regret it. I've got a SF 1979 VC that I recent had overhauled by a great Fender shop. I just move to a small townhouse and the amp sounds massive in there, especially in rooms with hardwood floors.
At this point, I've put my 1970 SF Deluxe Reverb Ian the closet because it's too loud for the house.
Ha, two years later, I am here with a completely different amp. I ended up buying a 1960 Gibson GA-5 Skylark. Love that amp. I don't know where the difference lies between the GA-5 and a standard tweed Champ, but it seems a bit darker than the latter. And I'm very happy with it. Breaks up surprisingly early (you can already hear it coughing with volume at 2 and a humbuckerino-equipped guitar).
But I love those small amps and if God came down to earth to tell me that in a few years, I will also own a Vibro Champ, of the two, only his appearance would be a surprise. :)
that low G note that Doug played @14:18 got my attention. That guitar/amp combo has all the mojo magic that you would ever need. a 335 and a Champ. On the verge of feedback.
You guys are making me drool ! Sweet low wattage tones !!!
Excellent show boys.
Nothing beats these low watt tube amps for recording at home.
Best show ever!!!
Thanks for such a nice demo video. Surprisingly well recorded/played.
I used to have those 3 models from Gibson/Epiphone and still own a 1965 BF Champ from the same era you played here (with the "#7" and "OA" marks stamped on the tube location sticker), they are all great amps.
Btw, 43:43 "Beach Boys?" lol
More shows like this! Best show on youtube!
Awesome tone benchmark for this series of amps. Particularly liked both the Champ and 5F2A Princeton. Striving for that tone on my Clone builds Nice job Demo-ing these amps!
Hey Doug and Pat! Love your show and I happen to own some low wattage amps at home. They are the modern versions. I have the Super Champ XD, Gibson Les Paul Jr. Amp Reissue, Marshall Class 5 Head and a VOX AC4TV head and cab. They all sound great and different. For the VOX cab and the Super Champ XD, I changed the speaker to Eminence speakers because the originals couldn't handle the low E string on my Gibson Les Paul Traditional Plus guitar. Man, I gotta tell you that these speakers are loud and they each could handle 75 watts. My ears almost gave out a few times. For improve sound, I use Auralex like you would with a studio speaker and Mercury Magnetics power plug for more amp dynamics. They claim the original power plugs don't allow the amp be the best amp that it can be. I noticed that the warm up time is a little faster on my Super Champ XD. This also means better tone and maybe more volume.
Small 1 output tube amps are a favorite of mine. I know you are not looking at any new stuff, but I currently play through a Back Heart Little Giant and a Peavey Mini Colossal. Both are terrific 5 watt amps.
Love this, can't wait for #2
Nicely done as usual gentlemen. I need a D & P beanie to go with my t-shirt!
I own a re-housed 1964 Valco/Supro 16-T that would definitely qualify as a practice amp at around 8 watts. No volume to speak of, but wonderful tones. I currently have it as a mini head running into a 1968 J.C. Penny stereo cabinet and it sounds fantastic!
58 Princeton is as good as it gets.....want one.
Love these videos guys and would love to hear some old Valco/Supro/National/Airline amps on one of your vids. Thanks!
Aint no school like the old school! Nice work men. I have an original 68 fender vibro champ and love it. Listening to your sound bites makes me want to crank mine up and get rid of all effects. Trouble is its so loud for a little guy, all the guys in the band hate it when i do.
I have a '60 Gibson Skylark, brother to the Epiphone featured. What a great little amp! I agree, it's loud for its 4-5 watts. Switch out the negative feedback loop and it just gets better.
I have a 1964 Blackface Champ made in December of that year. All stock. Didn't even switch the plug to 3 prong.
They say you should for safety.
@@nathanhickey2430 I figure it’s probably what’ll kill me.
Oh my gosh. That Princeton was sweet but for me the GA5 with Les Paul Jr. was just a great sound...
That tweed champ really nailed early clapton tone!
Nice to see the guys using a Strat for a change.
I like my small amps too. I have a few of the ones shown and have had some others but sold them. Small amps are lots of fun.
Why such a low volume? I love your videos but on a mobile device with volume on 100% I can't hear you guys. Great channel
That Fender is GREAT.
the little 1970's Traynor with two 8" speakers and giant stove knobs beats them all for tone.
They're back!
My first amp in '62 was a used Magnatone with 1- 12" and vibrato....I was 8 yrs old and played a single pup Danelectro through it.
I used to work for an Epiphone dealer in Ottawa Canada from 1966 to 1968. I remember the Epiphone line amps and guitars..
Borrowed one of the 30 watt Epiphone amps for a gig and it blew a fuse, so I replaced the fuse with a heavier one. then
it started to smoke. Turned out to be one of those solid state rectifiers that shorted out.
A lot of these old 60 year amps have dried out filter caps that need replacing.
Love the little Champ..now that is a jazz amp, but youse guys don't play no jazz.
Do you still have that amp? Curious to see it!
That was excellent, all sounded great but the Epiphone was probably my favourite, hot and bright albeit the compromise was loss of some headroom compared to the others.
tweed princeton or blackface champ were my favorites.
IMO I get the best tone from small amps . I'm going to try and A/B my Blues Jr and 5112 Victoria . I'm going to have the blues jr on top and the 5112 victoria on the bottom cause it has my low end and there is no tone knob . Prolly won't jive but it's worth a try
Interesting, I find I only really enjoy my fenders through my Princeton, and feel the same in this demo. The strat sounded incredible but wasn't feeling the love for the Gibson. Really educational though. Love your channel, thanks guys.
One thing you did not comment on: that lone Star Strat with standard Texas Special pick-ups; very toneful guitar for around $500 at the time this video aired.
Right-o, an amazing value for a great looking, great sounding and playing guitar. The Tele version is nice too. D&P
A lot of the confusion comes from the T-shirt - Doug on the left, Pat on the right.
Nice demos but turn the sound up when you are speaking. I just bought a Gibson Minuteman GA-20 RVT what a beauty
That VOX AC4 sounds like it has a combination tremolo/vibrato. On the AC15 and 30 they actually had different switchable vibrato and tremolo modes.
+Ivan Rastapovici the very early AC15s had the combination effect too ;)
the princeton and 335,its a smokin boys,vety nice
Doug and Pat, thanks for another fine vid. Question, if I may... the design voltage of these old amps was likely less than our widely available 120-124 wall volts today. Did you run the amps through any voltage controlling/correcting device like a Variac for the demo? Keep the vids coming!
Dang BF Champ. The Funk 49 amp. Killer.
Yeah! A new video!
40:30 "Quite indestructible" yeah, I agree, they are made like a tank with thick solid pine board. But I'd say a BF champ is "indestructible" sound wise as well. It's not my best favorite little single ended amp, so have sold mine 2 times in the past but now have the third one. I don't know why but always come to "champ" at the bit to play it after letting it go. Maybe it's very objective to my ears.
Of all the amps played full and all sounded fizzy and farty, the Vox is the one that sounded musical at loud volumes and it proves Vox amps were voiced to be played loud. All the Vox I've played, they sound the best and sweetest when played at least 3/4 full volume.
Can confirm, I've played two ac10s and an ac15. None of which I turned up loud enough to get the sound I wanted
Hey guys - I grow something to put in your pipe that will make those little gems sound HUGE ...!
(no worries, this is Oregon - we're legal now, although we previously had a medicinal permit...it makes playing more fun!!)
Cheers mates!!
These guys are old, but they have never seen the sun…
How about an Ampeg Jet?
Cool amps, but where can I get Pat's hat?
Try a new Bassbreaker 7 watt.
If you'd like to try a new five watter that's handmade with quality parts to the same standards as it's bigger siblings, check out the Dr Z mini Z!
hi, it is a great video!
will you ever make a video about marshall heads? i would really like a jtm 45 - jtm45/100 - super bass comparison ;)
An AC30 was thought of as a 'practice amp' in the 60s! lol
+shoominati23 And that AC4 reminds me of a time when things were built to last, and the manufacturers actually built products with the view that they may need to be serviced several times in their life, and made it as easy as possible to do so. It's not like nowadays where things are built to such cheap prices, that you're going to throw the thing away when it breaks because it's more expensive to fix than to buy a new one.
You should let Pat play more
Today so called better technology has taken over hand made/ hand wired circuit boards and stuff has a life span so you have no choice but to buy another one.
Why does a GE electric motor still run since the 30's" a simple brush change most times is all it needs. The designers engineered and designed stuff to last, and when the people of United States had pride in everything they did and built.
People these days barley know how to use a hammer. I have a BF 65 Deluxe Reverb that I bought for $95.00 when I was 16.
It was my first tube amp, it's my pride and joy. I have had a few boutique amps over the years this one knows how to sing when I need it. Most of the internal components resisters, compactors, transformers built by hand as well in those days.
Most of the studio recordings where on small wattage or practice amplifiers, Hendrix, Page, Zappa and Santana. Supro, Super champ and Princeton are some that come to mind.
We agree which is why we did this video and will do more soon. These older amplifiers were built by people living in a different time and it's fun to own them and play through them. Do they sound good? For us they have the sound we seek. D&P
25. 35 sounds like jimmy clapton ! or eric hendrix, lol love that tone .
I picked up a skylark ga-5 at a pawn shop for 300 today!!
I know great things have been done on a strat , but this was in a studio , please let me know your thoughts .
34:16 you once said Pat was a Brian May fan! I hear Keep Yourself Alive there!
Okay....I am going to be an A-hole and say what EVERYONE is thinking... "The Strat sounds like crap compared to the ES..." Great video. Extremely entertaining!
Not me m8.
I'm a humbucker, Gibson guy but I quite like the strat
feeling lonely I bet
13:07 the tone!!!
The Vox definitely has more of a British tone
Lelet PAT out for some exercise someday Dougie
He looks a bit pale. 😀
Vox has been a very different company for over 30 years. If you live outside the UK and you've bought a new Vox this century, it has never even visited England, let alone been made here.
Keep on smoking Pat
Great!!!!!!!
I really like your videos. I am dumbfounded because I can't come up with the name of the song you play the lick from @ 43:33, right after the Day Tripper lick. I got it in my head and I just can't get the lyrics to pop up. I guess I am getting senile. I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
I thank your in advance for your response.
It's "I Feel Fine". D&P
Hey Pat have you ever smoked a King Edward cigar ?
Tweed amp had box joint and not dove tail joints
Fender champion 600 do you have one of those ?
how did you get them speakers to stick on the wall like that?
What pickups are in your ES-335? I have a Heritage H-535 that has a 59 PAF in the bridge and a Seth Lover in the neck. I was thinking of going with the Alnico 2 Antiquities for both.
stated just before he plays it
Thank you...
How about some Supro amps? and maybe some of the department store / mail order amps as I know some opf them were actually pretty good. Did danelectro ever make any amps?
Was about to say the same thing. Supro, valco, silvertone...would love to hear these guys opinions on em
Danelectro made amps under their own name ---- model names included Commando and Centurion ---- and many of, or at least the most commonly seen Silvertone amps were built by Danelectro; if it has an aluminum chassis it's probably a Danelectro; a steel chassis indicates it's likely a Valco-built amp, like most Gretch and some Harmony amps. Supro and National were Valco brands. Wards Airline sourced amps from both Valco and Danelectro.
I get the feeling you guys are fellow washingtonians, maybe it's the spliff , maybe it's the clear pronounciation of your words, either way hello from Spokane Washington ! 😉
We're in Portland Oregon so close by. We do try to speak clearly on the show, the rest of the time we mumble especially Pat. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show *🤣 You guys are GREAT ! Please keep up the episodes !😉
The Doug and Pat Show BTW I lived in Portland as a kid and it was very COOL on the 90's, haven't been back since but plan to some day !
I think tube amps are more interesting than solid state ones. That's me.
Anyone know if Matamp did single tube amps back in the day ?
what strings are you guys typically using on the videos please?
+will cogger We use D'addario XL+ nickel strings which is an in-between gauge: 9.5-44 on all Gibson guitars. D&P
Cheers
Love the shows by the way.
Keep it up.
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If i see u round ill smokeout :]
The 60s, I remember that decade. That Fender catalog with the painting on the front cover reminiscent of the Ventures, all playing Fender Strats..except the drummer of course Gibson was still mentioning Les Paul in their early catalogs.
I travelled to the gates of nirvana..Gibson Kalamazoo for a unannounced factory tour..but unfortunately the factory union was on strike, the first in their history and Ted MKcCarrty (you could call him the father of the Les Paul, ES335 line and the person responsible that bought the Epiphone line from the owners at the time in '57, "had left the building". HE QUIT!
Epiphone amps were not well received by guitar players in my neck of the woods in the 60s. They would try them for one gig as a demo/loaner and bring it back ordering a Fender amp that they were familiar with on their band account and that
was unprofitable for us as we were not a Fender nor Gibson dealer., just Epiphone that Gibson were eager to promote the
line in the 60s.
Do you remember seeing any of the early Gibson made Epiphone amps like the Pacemaker in this video?
The epiphone wins.
NO i'm Doug LOL
Urgent timing of the intro music...