My dad always told me the reason why they did the long inspection of the Enterprise at space dock is because it was the first time seeing the Enterprise in a long time...new look and everything
@@boristurovskiy351 There were lots of close-up shots of the Enterprise in TOS. There's a collection of these scenes from all 3 seasons of TOS on a video put together by Doug Drexler. You can find the video by Googling: Star Trek Original Series Enterprise Reference Shots Drexler The description of that video states "Enterprise Model shots. Over 100 Sequences Across All Three Seasons. Jack Marshall and I [Doug Drexler] put this together as reference for the 2016 Enterprise Smithsonian restoration."
You should watch the Star Trek original TV series from the late 1960s, that'll give you a ton of character background and much more. Because that series had the most creative, colorful, AMBITIOUS plots in a hard-core sci-fi TV show with a low budget. I'll bet literally anything you'll find these extravagantly-acted old Trek episodes highly entertaining. And yes, Trek's Capt. Kirk was every bit the tough badass people have told you.
Just so we're clear though, Star Trek was not "low budget." It was one of the most expensive TV shows on the air at the time. It gets the rep of being low budget now because it is from the 1960s. Still, I absolutely agree.
Am literally looking at the score right now, the book is sitting right next to my piano. It's definitely one of the best of Goldsmith's several masterpieces. :)
@@motodork Yeah, without the series behind him, the wonder of the crew getting back together and the beauty of the new ship design don't have the same impact.
@@markharris1125 Absolutely not mandatory. The movie explains everything necessary to understand the story. Actually, a TOS watch was more needed before THIS movie because it would have explained many things, especially the crew's attachment to the ship and would have made Kirk and Spock's different behavior evident here.
I haven’t gotten through the whole video yet, but you really should watch the “Directors Edition”. It fixes a lot of problems with pacing and storylines. Robert Wise always considered the theatrical version an unfinished rough cut, but was under such a time crunch, he didn’t get the chance to tweak and re-edit the film before its release.
Excellent reaction you look good job. If you wanna see more just let you keep your background. This movie took place 10 years after the Regional series was over. We hadn’t seen anything for 10 years. They had originally applied to make a new TV series. with an only new crew, but after Star Wars Paramount decided to start, you could do a movie instead about the old crew back with some of the new crewmembers to make a movie the old series or the next movie started to wrath or the next generation series it’s all good. It’s up to you. Have thefun until next time
Ah, an intrepid explorer crosses the chasm between two of the great Science Fiction Monoliths of all time. Welcome to a universe of exploration and the human condition, where battles are made of wits and philosophy, and 99 percent of all alien species are separated by a few rubber facial add-ons. As much as the two franchises share a mythical rivalry, they truly do exist in their own paradigms, and compliment each other well. Where Star Wars is a grand space opera, with questions of faith, justice, and the hero's journey, Star Trek is all about discovery... both in the sense of the bizarre and unknown limits of imagination... and the discovery of who we ourselves are, and can be. Star Wars appeals to the valorous heart, and Star Trek appeals to the insatiable mind. I sincerely hope you enjoy the franchise, and I'll be subscribed to see how it goes from here! Live Long and Prosper. 🖖
101 TV episodes (79 live-action one-hour, 22 animated half-hours) before the movies started. The novelization of this film, written by _Star Trek's_ creator, Gene Roddenberry, indicates that the real Ilia's consciousness (her soul, if you will) inhabited the probe, so she was really there. Humans couldn't be intimate with members of her species because they completely share their minds with their partners, and the mental health of many other species, including humans, couldn't handle that. Therefore, Ilia's people had to take oaths of celibacy while serving in Starfleet. At the end, Decker, who'd realized the love of his life was truly present in the probe, could finally join with him this way, through V'ger.
The "Enterprise arrival" scene establishes the fact that the Enterprise is indeed as much of a character as the crew itself and is "her" introduction to the big screen as fans had not seen the ship in almost ten years. It also serves as a love letter for Kirk as his one true love, his ship.
Star Trek, at its best, is really quite philosophical, as this movie demonstrates. Questions of morality, ethics, questions about existence, and the search for new life drives all the stories of Star Trek. It's about exploration not just of space, but of the human condition and told through the medium of science fiction. There is much humor, drama, tension and action, but all of these are used to explore humanity. In that light, Star Trek is often quite cerebral and to me that's exciting. If you enjoyed this picture, and you seemed to indeed, you will enjoy the franchise - at least probably most of it anyway. There are now, after nearly 60 years, about a dozen movies or so, 8 separate live action TV series, a couple animated series, and many many many excellent stories. Star Trek, ST The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise make up the best of the Star Trek series from the 60's through to the early 2000's in live action. There was a long gap where Star Trek was not on TV except for reruns from those series I mentioned. In 2017 or so, "new" Star Trek was being produced, however it's lacking much of the magic of these older shows. "New" Star Trek includes "Discovery" , "Picard" which is a spinoff from the most excellent 80's/90's series The Next Generation, and the series "Strange New World." Discovery is, for me very meh. Picard had 3 seasons, with the third season being epic and extraordinary, and Strange New World is, in my view quite good. More Star Trek is in the works. I have loved Star Trek for 50 years. I've even read the many hundreds of novels published since the 70's. Despite some of the problems of "new" Trek, there are a solid 50 years of exceptional TV shows and movies that I am convinced you will wholeheartedly enjoy and you will enjoy some of the "New" Trek, I think, despite some of its problems. The Motion Picture, you just watched, is largely considered, by fans, the weakest of the movies. I quite like it for its philosophical storyline. You enjoyed its slower pace and the visuals, things most fans did not enjoy, so it is unlikely you'll not enjoy the rest of the movies. Star Trek is America's Doctor Who. It's got that long lasting legacy! I hope you will go down the rabbit hole and watch all the series. It's a wonderful, fun, emotional, entertaining, thought provoking, ride! I would suggest watching the series in the order of their release date and NOT series to series because there some overlapping storylines that span across different sets and actually play out as the series ran concurrently concurrently on TV. That would keep you from forgetting important story bits, or being confused by some storylines and allow you to experience the phenomenon as we did, just as it unfolded. If you start it you'll have 3 seasons of the Original Series, then 6 Original series movies of which you just watched the first. Then 7 sessions of the Next Generation which, on TV overlapped for about 3 seasons of Deep Space Nine which team for 7 sessions, and then 4 Next Gen movies, while watching DS9 which overlaps with Voyager for about 4 seasons and which also had a 7 season run, then Voyager and Enterprise overlap for a couple seasons with Enterprise sadly having only a 4 season run. When you finish Enterprise you've finished Star Trek at its very best, at its peak. Discovery, Picard, and Strange New Worlds are not quite as good, though Strange New Worlds is probably the best of the 3 new shows, though Picard season 3 is AWESOME and very very emotional. Watching them as they aired will give you the full experience and you will be glad you did it that way. I'm here with you through your Star Trek journey, should you "accept the mission" , 😜 I predict you're going to fall in love with the franchise and really enjoy it. It's truly an EPIC journey. You'll feel like you've made friends with the casts. It's really amazing how these dudes get into your heart though good storytelling, amazing actors, and through the nearly 60 years of exploring the human condition. You'll laugh, might even get choked up, may even cry, I sure have, and you'll be on the edge of your seat with thrills, incredible cliff hangers, and yes action. It's simply brilliant!
"I like how they take their time, and let the shots sit with us". Yeah, this film is kind of famous for that :-) Others call it slow. But I still like it.
I was questioning you jumping right in to TMP.......but you did well. BUT PLEASE.....if you go to wrath of Khan. Please watch a (TV) TOS episode called Space Seed so you have background.
@@WillTalksMovies I'll chime in too and say the same thing. The second movie will make a lot more sense if you watch Space Seed! New to the channel, great reaction!
The Enterprise isn't just any old starship. She's the flagship of Starfleet. The best of the best. Enterprise was already a legendary vessel by this point in her career.
Great reaction to one of my favorite underrated movies based on the 1967 television series...woulda helped if you watched the TV series, especially for the sequel, an even better movie...LOVE you reactions. Please react to the sequel... Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan!
The original series is definitely a prerequisite for watching the rest of Trek. I suggest watching the various series and movies in more or less the order they were released. Everything after 2005 was changed radically, and a great many fans think the core ideas that made Star Trek what it was are missing from 2005 on. I haven't yet seen anyone comment explaining Spock's curt manner. His people, the Vulcans had a period in their history when emotions got the better of them and they nearly destroyed their entire civilization. After that, they chose to dedicate themselves to a more logical way of life. This included the nearly complete suppression of emotion. Watching the original series would be the best place to start. It explains a lot. Star Trek Voyager, and Star Trek Enterprise also had Vulcans as main characters. A lot of fans think Deep Space 9 has a couple of episodes that rank among the best in all of TV.
It's amazing how much of Star Trek and the characters that you understood, even though you never watched the original series. I highly recommend that you watch the original three seasons in order to get a better grasp of the Star Trek mythos, especially for the three main characters of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. P.S. Everyone loves Scotty. I'm glad that you loved him almost right away.
This was an interesting choice for first Star Trek movie/episode. I LOVE the Motion Picture. It's my favorite of the films in that it tries to be something bigger and grander than the rest. You watched the theatrical cut - they just came out with the directors edition in 4K which is absolutely brilliant. There is a lot of Star Trek to get lost in, and lots of it is worth checking out. The original series is a product of its time, but there are many episodes that hold up extremely well today. Enjoy!
If you get to watch the Star Trek Original series, from the 1960s, you will see TV-budgeted high-level SF achieved. It's why Star Trek became such a huge thing. You will also see that this story was done before. 'Nomad'. Worth seeking out. It's often very good SF, sometimes silly. Sometimes it's just familiar drama in outer space. Still good.
This movie presumes you know who the main characters are, what Starfleet is, who the Klingons are. It presumes you know all about Kirk, Spock & McCoy's long time friendship,who his Vulcan father & human mother are; & all about Spock's struggle between his logical Vulcan side & emotional human side. The love letter to Enterprise is because it's been a decade since we last saw this ship, & it's for the fans. The TV Enterprise, a plastic model built in the late 1960s, was a more primitive model. This movie was the first time we had a true Federation starship! All those aliens was a wonderful treat. Previously, Enterprise had a human crew + Spock. Ultimately, it was one of Roddenberry's favorite plots: the search for God.
Good explanation of what the movie expected of its audience... In particular, for this film, newbies need to understand that bit about the rather long Enterprise reveal. ;-] At the end there, perhaps you meant to say that his favorite plot was the _futility_ of the search for God, since Roddenberry was an atheist. You will notice that in most, if not all of those searches, when they found what they were looking for, it turned out to be something else entirely. Never more evident than in the line, _"What does God need with a starship?"_ Unlike religions, Gene wasn't presuming to teach us _what_ to think, but instead he showed examples of _how_ to think critically. The scientific method never really set out to replace religious superstition with knowledge... it's just a happy coincidence. ;-]
Instant sub, great reaction! It seems like even half of the Trek community rails on this film because of its slower pace and cerebral feel but it was awesome you enjoyed it for what it is! When I first got my iPhone way back this soundtrack was the first mp3s I loaded lol
When it came out, many fans called the "the motionless picture". People watched the several times. It's not a bad movie, at all. It was very hurried in production and really needed a few more edits. Perhaps it's too similar to one of the 1960's episodes, the changeling" all the movies have a very different style. Clearly having a background in the tv show will add to the experience, perhaps if you watch certain key episodes like amok time, space seed, errand of mercy, enterprise incident.
We now have the completed film, but when it released theatrically in 1979, there were unfinished effects and so on. The release was set in stone and they rushed postproduction to get it to the cinemas. Now they've gone back completed the effects shots. The scene where they're walking on the Enterprise saucer section used to be a distorted looking matte painting.
I like how you catch on quickly to McCoy and Scott's personalities. Decker and Ilya are entirely new, never seen before and never seen again. Ilya was played by the lovely Persis Khambatta, Miss India 1965.
They're sooooooorta seen again, except their names are changed to Riker and Troi. They recycled the original concept for Decker and Ilia from the proposed new TV show that became The Motion Picture, but look at how the back story is the same. They almost have identical reunion scenes in their introductions. After all, it's Star Trek, they love to recycle anything they can. SFX shots, plots, actors, name it. 😁
I watched this movie dozens of times before I realized why Decker wanted to join with V'Ger. He didn't want to join with V'Ger, but with Ilia. When he left her home planet, he chose his career over her, but now he had a second chance to be with her (in some form) or to continue to chase his career, he chose her this time, because he knew her consciousness was a part of V'Ger. I felt stupid for not realizing it sooner.
Interesting that this is the first Star Trek thing you watch. I get it, it's the first movie. But this movie is built on the stuff from the 60's TV series. That's where these characters and the universe are established. But hey, if you're liking this, then just keep going! There's no wrong way to enjoy Star Trek! As a life-long Star Trek fan, I am always happy to welcome new fans to this universe that we all love so much!!!
To give you an idea how big the cloud is, 2AUs is about 186,000,000 miles (or if you're watching the original theatrical version, 82AUs is 7.3 billion miles) Vulcans have emotions but they suppress them. Their emotions are much stronger than ours and will overwhelm them if they allow it, so they learnt a long time ago to suppress them in favour of logic.
Fun Facts: the Creator of Star Trek Gene Rodenberry was a Navy man who sited Forester (Hornblower books) and O'Brian (Master and Commander) for inspiring him. The real British Navy Officer Cochrane inspired both writers. He served in four Navys and helped to found 4 Countries. Later he returned to England and helped transition the Brits to steam. Gene named his inventor of Warp drive for him. Also one of the first 6 US frigates was the Enterprise under Decator in the Barbary wars, her sister ship is the oldest active duty ship in the world still able to sail in Boston, USS Constitution. WWII Enterprise was a carrier as the following ships with the name. One is being broken up now with a replacement Ford class Enterprize being built (Provided the BO lobby don't get a name change).
16:47 "I'm Assuming There's A Series That Proceeds This?" There was a Star Trek TV series that proceeded this movie. The TV series aired from 1966 to 1969. This movie was originally intended to be the pilot episode of a new Star Trek series, titled "Star Trek: Phase II" that had the original cast, minus Leonard Nimoy as Spock, returning and introducing a few new characters, including Commander Deckard and Lieutenant Ilia. But, elements of this new series were recycled into other Star Trek series, including 2 full episodes that would appear in "Star Trek:The Next Generation"
From what I've read, Gene Roddenberry had always wanted to do some really high-concept science fiction with _Star Trek_ (along the lines of _Forbidden Planet_ or _2001: A Space Odyssey_ ), and this was finally his chance to do it. He certainly did not disappoint.
Yes, Star Trek: TOS (The Original Series) has plenty of lore, but you picked a decent place to start anyway. The 1966 television series is just that, television level budgets for sets, and 1966 era visual effects. The narratives were groundbreaking for their time because they were veiled ways to address social issues of the day, and rather effectively. Yes, it's dated, but worth a watch if you grant it special consideration based on those things.
I remember both of the Voyagers. They were big news. At around this time the first Voyager was beginning to send back the first close-up images of Jupiter. Everyone who saw the film would have known the name Voyager. Most would also recognise all the original cast members from the 1960s.
Great reaction! I recommend that you watch Star Trek the original series (often abbreviated as TOS) before proceeding to the movie Star Trek II. You should watch at least TOS season 1 because Star Trek II continues the story of one of the TOS season 1 episodes. At that point, I think you will know whether or not you want to continue watching TOS and the other Star Trek movies based on TOS, which I hope you will.
Before this, there were three seasons of the original live action series and one season of an animated show which are considered to be four of the five year voyage
Very refreshing to see someone appreciate this amazing film for what it is, instead of bemoaning what it isn't. The tonal shift from the original series threw all lot of long-time fans when it was released, and another common complaint, the abundance of long, ponderous FX sequences, you're simply enjoying for what it is. And at the time, the FX was unparalleled in scope and sense of scale.
@@cashflowhustles While I agree 2001 was amazing visually, and comparable - I really do think ST:TMP pulled out all the stops. Where 2001 succeeded in a sense of sparse isolation in space, this film filled space with continuous wonders.
Welcome to an amazing journey! Before you continue with the second movie I recommend you watch some of the episodes of the original series, especially the episode Space Seed, which connects directly with the second movie.
@@WillTalksMovies The short list of ten episodes of the original series that not only provide critical character information seen in the films but also give good insight into the characters and provide a great overall sense of what Star Trek is would be as follows (in chronological order of their airing): "The Menagerie, Parts 1 & 2" "Balance of Terror" "Space Seed" "Errand of Mercy" "The City on the Edge of Forever" "Amok Time" "The Doomsday Machine" "Journey to Babel" "The Trouble with Tribbles"
@@WillTalksMovies The first two seasons of Star Trek garnered a total of 8 of 10 Hugo Award nominations from 1967-1968 (sweeping every nomination the second year) and capturing the Hugo Award (science fiction's highest honor) both times. The only TV series to win a Hugo prior was The Twilight Zone and no other TV show would win again until the sequel Star Trek: The Next Generation a quarter century later (it garnered 3 nominations and 2 Hugo Awards in its run). Back then TV shows and movies didn't have separate categories which was why TV shows rarely got nominated much less won which puts Star Trek's achievements in much more impressive context.
As a lifelong Trekker I am probably in the minority with TMP being my joint fave Trek movie alongside ST2. It tells a really good smart science fiction story with characters I love and it sells the visuals, scale and the vastness and strangeness of space better than all the other Trek films IMHO. I highly recommend you watch the original series which features the same main cast (1966-1969). It's usually always on some channel here in the UK. Pretty sure it's Legend at the mo as I often catch an episode early weekday evenings despite owning them all and having seen them many, many times. Great way to relax by spending time with my old friends on the Enterprise. ☺
Star Trek, like Doctor Who, came from the 1960's. The original series, oft called just TOS, ran from 1966-69, was briefly an animated show in the 70's when it went into syndication & became huge... This is the first movie of six featuring the original crew. Subsequent other Trek spinoff shows have followed, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space 9 all take place about 100 years after Kirk & co in the 24th century. The Trek universe is slowly 'fleshing out' with prequel shows like Enterprise (22nd century), Discovery & Strange New Worlds set prior to TOS. At its heart Trek has a simple philosophy about a possible future of no war, no racism, no prejudice/bigotry, where we finally come together to explore space together. I suggest you check out TOS to get character backgrounds (you'll fall in love with the original crew) etc then move onto TNG which dramatically expanded the Trek universe back in the 80's.
Roddenberry had that kind of philosophy and he was a nut. With episodes like "Balance of Terror" or "Errand of Mercy" there's no way there's no war or racism in this version of the future.
@@eq1373 Whilst the show discussed those themes, it was about a unified world exploring space where humans have advanced beyond where we are now. Its a show about an egalitarian society of the future quite a few people would like to live in. Its unashamed optimism is why its so successful over the last 60 years or so.
Yay the old Star Trek movies, I hope you enjoy. Did someone warn you that this first movie is a bit slow, it’s very 70s artsy. The next movie is much quicker and has more action.
It's kinda hard to realise the impact of this movie if you weren't around in 1979 when it was released. Two years after Star Wars, 11 years after the original Star Trek TV series was cancelled....a massive event. It gets a bit of negative reviews on it's pacing but I find this first Trek movie much more grounded to the original series than anything else that came after it, as good as they are as well.
You've already noticed that Vulcans like Spock are an alien species who completely suppress all emotions and focus on logic. The Vulcans are the intellectual giants of the Star Trek universe, focused on intellect and not openly feeling. Vulcans are also telepathic and have the ability to read minds (to some degree) by putting their hands on someone's head.
Touch telepaths. Also, the reason Vulcans embraced logic was to stop themselves wiping each other out, as they were originally a VERY violent species. Those that refused embrace it left the planet and became Romulans.
I recommend checking out the following episodes of the original series before continuing on with this franchise -- most are episodes that the film series reference in some way, and the rest are simply some of the best episodes of the series: 1. Where No Man Has Gone Before 2. The Corbomite Maneuver 3. Tomorrow Is Yesterday 4. Balance of Terror 5. Space Seed 6. The Devil In The Dark 7. Errand of Mercy 8. City On The Edge Of Forever 9. Amok Time 10. The Changeling 11. Journey To Babel 12. The Doomsday Machine 13. The Trouble With Tribbles 14. Mirror, Mirror 15. Let This Be Your Last Battlefield This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a "best of" list -- the original series had 79 episodes, and these 15 simply give a rough overview that will help give context to the films. I've ignored some great episodes simply because they have no direct impact on the film series, though I've included a few here which are just great episodes that should be seen.
From now on it is ok to continue with these 6 movies 1979 - 1991. Of course it is better to get to know the orininal series from the 1960s first to learn more about this crew. There are some cool stories to discover but of course it is difficult to watch an almost 60 yo tv show and not get distracted by the limitet visuals ;) Star Trek - The Next Generation (the very iconic series I grew up with) continues the saga almost a century after captain Kirk. Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) commands a way more modern ship in the late 24th century for 7 seasons until 1994 and 4 following movies until 2002 with an even newer Enterprise in cinema. Deep Space Nine is the most complex series showing the following years and developing great character arcs. It was not to be continued in cinemas. Voyager also takes place in those later 24th century years, no following movie as well. Enterprise decided to tell the early years a century before Kirk, when the Federation of Planets was to be founded, when humans just began to explore deep space. The following 3 movies and tv shows can be seen as a reboot of the franchise, so now a third generation of viewers can step on board the ship to discover strange new worlds, hoping the journey will never end :)
The transporter malfunction, the transporter lost a lot of the signal during transport, and then the transporter tried to "form" them (i.e. put them together, as it naturally does) but it only had about half the signal and half the material (like trying to put a big Lego set together with half the instructions missing and most of the pieces missing as well) resulting in a horrific death.
I quite like The Motion Picture, but I never would recommend starting with the films (not that it's impossible to do so, mind you). The assumption was that audiences had caught a few episodes of the TV series in syndication and already had a touch of familiarity with the characters and setting. If nothing else, I would recommend the following three episodes as prerequisite viewing: 1. Space Seed (Season 1) - referenced in Star Trek II 2. Amok Time (Season 2) - referenced in Star Trek III 3. Journey to Babel (Season 2) - referenced in Star Trek III If someone wanted to know more about the two major alien villains, I'd also recommend: 1. Balance of Terror (Season 1) - Romulan episode 2. Errand of Mercy (Season 1) - Klingon episode 3. The Trouble with Tribbles (Season 2) - Klingon episode And if you just wanted to see some of the best standalone episodes, here are a few: 1. This Side of Paradise (Season 1) 2. The City on the Edge of Forever (Season 1) 3. Mirror, Mirror (Season 2)
I had to laugh when you said you were guessing there was stuff you missed. The original series of which this movie was a revival, was 79 episodes long. The decker and illia characters were new to this movie, the other actors who had parts were original crew.
14:20 "If youre gonna say something, say it quick!" -- They *can't*, that's the whole problem. :-) The "wormhole effect" is a time distortion; time inside the ship is slowing down at a geometric rate. (Admittedly not well explained in the movie; the novelization explains it a bit better.) 16:44 Yes, there is a lot of lore behind this -- although not so much with those two characters, specifically. Decker and Ilia were new characters not seen in the Original Series, although they *would* have been series regulars if the intended "Star Trek: Phase II" series had gone into production. (This movie actually started out as a possible script for one of the Phase II episodes, and then when Paramount changed their mind in the wake of Star Wars' success and decided to do a feature film instead, the "In Thy Image" script was repurposed into the feature film.) 18:58 I loved that warp effect as well. I always wished they'd kept it for the future movies and TV series, but the slit-scan technique needed to achieve it was complicated and time-consuming, so I can see why they didn't.
Great reaction, figuring things out along the way quite well considering you came into this cold. It would help to have seen the original TV series so you could have the familiarity we all had. I got partway thru the comments and you have already seen a lot of what I would tell/advise for just starting out. If nothing else, see "Space Seed" before Star Trek II, but better to watch the entire TOS run since there is so much great stuff to appreciate.
Space Seed is a direct prequel to II and City on the Edge of Forever is an all-time classic. There's a number of other outstanding episodes. As they are an anthology you don't need to watch them in order.
@@boristurovskiy351 indeed, if I had to choose five episodes to watch to set up the films, it'd probably be "Space Seed", "Balance of Terror", "The Trouble With Tribbles", "Journey to Babel", and either "Amok Time" or "The Enterprise Incident", for the worldbuilding and character building that the films use as a basis.
The bald chick is Persis Khambatta. She was Miss India the previous year. Her character Ilea is a race that can influence people with their pheromones. Deltan.
There is no need to compare Star Trek to Star Wars, they are two very different beasts. SW is more of a "mythological story in space" whereas Star Trek is pure fun sci fy. (not quite hard sci fy). That transporter accident is one of the rare ones we see. It's usually a very safe mean of transportation.
oh wow.... Did you watch on youtube? The alien language parts has subtitles. Or it should have. IDKY but movies for sale on youtube can be missing subtitles.
I'm a big trekkie. fun seeing a totally blind reaction. If you'd ever like a spoiler-free opinion on which episodes to watch, watch order, etc, feel free to get in touch
I'd definitely check out at least some of the original series, as specific things are kind of the plot of the next movie. "Space Seed" for sure, but a few others to get the feel for the characters. Welcome aboard, and great reaction.
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan is a must see. It's way better in many ways to this movie. You definitely need to see that. It's also the beginning of a 3 movie story arc too. So that will get you to Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
Will, welcome aboard to Star Trek!! Are we ready for the next one guys?? The other movies are GREAT! Are you going to do Star Trek II now? Im ready to go!!!!
Bold choice for a first look to Star Trek. This is actually my favourite of the movie series, but can be very difficult for a newbie, especially if accostumed to the style of modern blockbusters.
@@WillTalksMovies If you want to concede a second view in future, I suggest the recent Director's Edition, totally restored and with special effects reworked and completed according to the original plans, that for budgetary reasons remained somewhat incomplete in the theatrical cut you saw here. Really a big improvement of an already impressive movie (according to some, the most expensive movie in the world, along with the first "Superman", at the time of its production).
@@WillTalksMovies This movie was directed by legendary director Robert Wise (who also directed “The Day the Earth Stood Still”), & it was modeled after Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey”.
You're loving the scene most fans were impatient with - the long, long, long shot of the Enterprise. So I now get a bit of the thinking behind it. It was made for people like you - who never saw the show.
It's worth reading the novelisation of this film (though I'll admit it's a PITA getting hold of it) as well - it's esssentially Gene Roddenberry's vision of humanity's future, and it really only fully reasonates with people who grew up or were mentally formed in that tech-positive futuristic Apollo (or "white heat of technology", for us Brits) era. I kinda got it secondhand through reading old fifties science fiction a lot as a child, and even so I'm feeling it a bit.
@WillTalksMovies Yes! Galaxy Quest is a fun, well constructed film (with a stacked cast in retrospect) that stands up on its own, but it is an homage to Star Trek, so you will catch more references if you are familiar with Captain Kirk's and/or Captain Picard's Enterprise voyages.
Welcome to Star Trek. The Original Series is 79 episodes. If you do not want to watch all of it before watching Star Trek II, You should at least watch a few Episodes: 'Balance of Terror', 'Journey To Babel', 'Space Seed', 'City on the Edge of Forever', and 'The Doomsday Machine' are my recommendations for 5 to watch But 'Space Seed' is essential.
Here's a list of episodes that are directly referenced by the movies. It'll give you a good Baseline : Space Seed Tomorrow Is Yesterday Errand of Mercy Amok Time Journey To Babel The DoomsDay Machine Is There In Truth No Beauty?
The original live-action series (TOS) has 79 episodes over 3 seasons, & the Animated Series (TAS) has 22 episodes over 2 seasons, so just over 100 total.
Why did you start here? 😂 I guess you can start anywhere but if the show started out on TV I would focus on the TV show as opposed to the movies. Just a suggestion. But at least you dove in somewhere. 🤣😅
Unfortunately, you've watched the original theatrical release. It's, for all practical purposes, a rough-cut version of the film; essential, it's unfinished. I highly recommend revisiting this movie by watched the 4K Director's Cut which was released a year or two ago. The original theatrical release sacrifced many of the characters' themes in favour of special effects -- and, frankly, they didn't have time to edit the special effects, so they were forced to add them ALL in.
yeah, this was the rushed version that's not really finished version that showed in theaters. The Director's cut is the better version. Better effects, pacing and story editing. Oh well. Wish you coulda seen the better version, but glad you got to try it. Hope you enjoy the next one!
This one was a bit slow pased for newbies, but the second film is more fast paced, but you might want to watch the original series episode Space Seed to get a full understanding of what's going on :)
The actor that played Decker is Stephen Collins. Who turned out to be a child predator. In a December 2014 interview with People magazine, Collins admitted that he committed "inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors" in 1973, 1982, and 1994. Under the age of 14.
While- absolutely!- you should watch _Star Trek: The Original Series_ for context on the characters and backstories (and yes, _TOS_ is _very much_ a product of its time despite how progressive it was), I am also pleased that you watched the original theatrical version of _The Motion Picture, instead of_ the Director's Cut (2002, overseen and completed by director Robert Wise before he passed away) or more-recent Ultra 4K HD Remaster (2023). By watching the Theatrical version of _TMP_ first, you will- at a later time- be able to appreciate what the original complaints and issues against it were, _and what specifically_ the latter modified versions brought to the table.
Just found your channel. It’s great that u r watching Star Trek. I grew up with trek in reruns in the 70s. And then Star Wars came out as well. Some people r surprised I’m a fan of both. Till this day I still watch original series episodes every weekend. They never get old. This is what trek is all about. Unfortunately in 2017 they came out with a new series that tossed out everything trek & filled it with pointless agenda!
You should probably watch some of the original series. Perhaps fans could make a list of the better episodes. The next movie (which many consider the best Trek film) is a direct sequel to the Star Trek episode "Space Seed". So you might want to watch that first.
before this live action series and animated series then movies up to 6 hen NG, Ds9, Voyager, hen 7h movie and he rest then Lower Decks, Picard, Discovery, Srange New Worlds
How soon will you react to _Star Trek III?_ Will you watch any original episodes, such as those I suggested in a comment for _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan?_
You're in for it now! 😆 You need to watch Star Trek II thru IV as an extended story line; Star Trek V is watchable, but arguably the weakest, and Star Trek VI is a fitting conclusion for the original cast. What most people who haven't watched the original series don't realize is how "experimental" ST:TMP was. It came out 10 years after the original series ended on TV, and the Starfleet unitards and those long, beauty shots of the Enterprise (from a time when studio models ruled) that newbies clown on were teething pains for the cinematic franchise. Go back and compare the Enterprise from ST:TOS to ST:TMP -- the ship is iconic and beautiful.
There's no backstory of the bald lady and Commander Decker, although his father is a memorable character in the original series. The score for this film is a masterpiece - maybe Jerry Goldsmith's best work. Definitely recommend Wrath of Khan - it's worthwhile to see "Space Seed' first, an episode of the original series, which has backstory, although it's not necessary. If you can find the cinematic release of Wrath of Khan, it's much better than the subsequent TV version, which had some awful outtakes added back in. If you watch that version, the scenes in question will be obvious by the amount they make you cringe.
My dad always told me the reason why they did the long inspection of the Enterprise at space dock is because it was the first time seeing the Enterprise in a long time...new look and everything
It was the first time seeing the Enterprise in close-up ever. They didn't have the budget to do it during the series.
It also established a sense of scale for when you see Enterprise as a tiny little dot next to V'ger.
10 years since the series ended.
Not just new and in a long time (10 years) but the first time ever on the big screen.
@@boristurovskiy351 There were lots of close-up shots of the Enterprise in TOS. There's a collection of these scenes from all 3 seasons of TOS on a video put together by Doug Drexler. You can find the video by Googling: Star Trek Original Series Enterprise Reference Shots Drexler
The description of that video states "Enterprise Model shots. Over 100 Sequences Across All Three Seasons. Jack Marshall and I [Doug Drexler] put this together as reference for the 2016 Enterprise Smithsonian restoration."
I just became a Star Trek fan in June 2024!!! 🖖🏻😊
I absolutely love this film!
You should watch the Star Trek original TV series from the late 1960s, that'll give you a ton of character background and much more. Because that series had the most creative, colorful, AMBITIOUS plots in a hard-core sci-fi TV show with a low budget. I'll bet literally anything you'll find these extravagantly-acted old Trek episodes highly entertaining. And yes, Trek's Capt. Kirk was every bit the tough badass people have told you.
Just so we're clear though, Star Trek was not "low budget." It was one of the most expensive TV shows on the air at the time. It gets the rep of being low budget now because it is from the 1960s.
Still, I absolutely agree.
Needs to watch one episode in particular before he moves on with these movies.
One of Jerry Goldsmith's best scores, and he was one of the best in the business!
Music was incredible
Possibly his BEST score ever
@@ChrisS-no3ft I put Poltergeist just a little above but it's damn well near the top!
Am literally looking at the score right now, the book is sitting right next to my piano. It's definitely one of the best of Goldsmith's several masterpieces. :)
Welcome to the Star Trek fandom! Can't wait for more!
Thank you so much!
Montogery Scott is Scottish. Scotty is an affectionate nickname (the actor - like Shatner - is Canadian).
Was, RIP Jimmy Doohan. Got to see him in person once.
Before moving on to Star Trek 2, you should watch the original series episode 'Space Seed' first.
More than 'should ', I would say 'must'.
Honestly he should have watched most of the original series before watching this. Most of this film was lost on him.
@@motodork Yeah, without the series behind him, the wonder of the crew getting back together and the beauty of the new ship design don't have the same impact.
@@markharris1125 Absolutely not mandatory. The movie explains everything necessary to understand the story. Actually, a TOS watch was more needed before THIS movie because it would have explained many things, especially the crew's attachment to the ship and would have made Kirk and Spock's different behavior evident here.
I haven’t gotten through the whole video yet, but you really should watch the “Directors Edition”. It fixes a lot of problems with pacing and storylines. Robert Wise always considered the theatrical version an unfinished rough cut, but was under such a time crunch, he didn’t get the chance to tweak and re-edit the film before its release.
Excellent reaction you look good job. If you wanna see more just let you keep your background. This movie took place 10 years after the Regional series was over. We hadn’t seen anything for 10 years. They had originally applied to make a new TV series. with an only new crew, but after Star Wars Paramount decided to start, you could do a movie instead about the old crew back with some of the new crewmembers to make a movie the old series or the next movie started to wrath or the next generation series it’s all good. It’s up to you. Have thefun until next time
Ah, an intrepid explorer crosses the chasm between two of the great Science Fiction Monoliths of all time. Welcome to a universe of exploration and the human condition, where battles are made of wits and philosophy, and 99 percent of all alien species are separated by a few rubber facial add-ons. As much as the two franchises share a mythical rivalry, they truly do exist in their own paradigms, and compliment each other well. Where Star Wars is a grand space opera, with questions of faith, justice, and the hero's journey, Star Trek is all about discovery... both in the sense of the bizarre and unknown limits of imagination... and the discovery of who we ourselves are, and can be. Star Wars appeals to the valorous heart, and Star Trek appeals to the insatiable mind. I sincerely hope you enjoy the franchise, and I'll be subscribed to see how it goes from here!
Live Long and Prosper.
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Thank you so much, I really appreciate it and loved the mystery and discovery:)
Very well said!
101 TV episodes (79 live-action one-hour, 22 animated half-hours) before the movies started.
The novelization of this film, written by _Star Trek's_ creator, Gene Roddenberry, indicates that the real Ilia's consciousness (her soul, if you will) inhabited the probe, so she was really there. Humans couldn't be intimate with members of her species because they completely share their minds with their partners, and the mental health of many other species, including humans, couldn't handle that. Therefore, Ilia's people had to take oaths of celibacy while serving in Starfleet. At the end, Decker, who'd realized the love of his life was truly present in the probe, could finally join with him this way, through V'ger.
The "Enterprise arrival" scene establishes the fact that the Enterprise is indeed as much of a character as the crew itself and is "her" introduction to the big screen as fans had not seen the ship in almost ten years. It also serves as a love letter for Kirk as his one true love, his ship.
This movie is the ultimate metaphor of having a child and not knowing what the investing return will be. Earth almost paid a huge price here.
WOW! You’re really a newbi you don’t know the Vulcan salute
Star Trek, at its best, is really quite philosophical, as this movie demonstrates. Questions of morality, ethics, questions about existence, and the search for new life drives all the stories of Star Trek. It's about exploration not just of space, but of the human condition and told through the medium of science fiction. There is much humor, drama, tension and action, but all of these are used to explore humanity. In that light, Star Trek is often quite cerebral and to me that's exciting. If you enjoyed this picture, and you seemed to indeed, you will enjoy the franchise - at least probably most of it anyway. There are now, after nearly 60 years, about a dozen movies or so, 8 separate live action TV series, a couple animated series, and many many many excellent stories. Star Trek, ST The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise make up the best of the Star Trek series from the 60's through to the early 2000's in live action. There was a long gap where Star Trek was not on TV except for reruns from those series I mentioned. In 2017 or so, "new" Star Trek was being produced, however it's lacking much of the magic of these older shows. "New" Star Trek includes "Discovery" , "Picard" which is a spinoff from the most excellent 80's/90's series The Next Generation, and the series "Strange New World." Discovery is, for me very meh. Picard had 3 seasons, with the third season being epic and extraordinary, and Strange New World is, in my view quite good. More Star Trek is in the works. I have loved Star Trek for 50 years. I've even read the many hundreds of novels published since the 70's. Despite some of the problems of "new" Trek, there are a solid 50 years of exceptional TV shows and movies that I am convinced you will wholeheartedly enjoy and you will enjoy some of the "New" Trek, I think, despite some of its problems. The Motion Picture, you just watched, is largely considered, by fans, the weakest of the movies. I quite like it for its philosophical storyline. You enjoyed its slower pace and the visuals, things most fans did not enjoy, so it is unlikely you'll not enjoy the rest of the movies. Star Trek is America's Doctor Who. It's got that long lasting legacy! I hope you will go down the rabbit hole and watch all the series. It's a wonderful, fun, emotional, entertaining, thought provoking, ride! I would suggest watching the series in the order of their release date and NOT series to series because there some overlapping storylines that span across different sets and actually play out as the series ran concurrently concurrently on TV. That would keep you from forgetting important story bits, or being confused by some storylines and allow you to experience the phenomenon as we did, just as it unfolded. If you start it you'll have 3 seasons of the Original Series, then 6 Original series movies of which you just watched the first. Then 7 sessions of the Next Generation which, on TV overlapped for about 3 seasons of Deep Space Nine which team for 7 sessions, and then 4 Next Gen movies, while watching DS9 which overlaps with Voyager for about 4 seasons and which also had a 7 season run, then Voyager and Enterprise overlap for a couple seasons with Enterprise sadly having only a 4 season run. When you finish Enterprise you've finished Star Trek at its very best, at its peak. Discovery, Picard, and Strange New Worlds are not quite as good, though Strange New Worlds is probably the best of the 3 new shows, though Picard season 3 is AWESOME and very very emotional. Watching them as they aired will give you the full experience and you will be glad you did it that way. I'm here with you through your Star Trek journey, should you "accept the mission" , 😜 I predict you're going to fall in love with the franchise and really enjoy it. It's truly an EPIC journey. You'll feel like you've made friends with the casts. It's really amazing how these dudes get into your heart though good storytelling, amazing actors, and through the nearly 60 years of exploring the human condition. You'll laugh, might even get choked up, may even cry, I sure have, and you'll be on the edge of your seat with thrills, incredible cliff hangers, and yes action. It's simply brilliant!
"I like how they take their time, and let the shots sit with us". Yeah, this film is kind of famous for that :-) Others call it slow. But I still like it.
I really appreciate it taking its time
I was questioning you jumping right in to TMP.......but you did well.
BUT PLEASE.....if you go to wrath of Khan. Please watch a (TV) TOS episode called Space Seed so you have background.
Yeah, the second movie is the sequel to the story started in the episode Space Seed.
Yes I definitely will, a lot of people are suggesting it, I will try and time it so they both come out the same week :)
@@WillTalksMovies I'll chime in too and say the same thing. The second movie will make a lot more sense if you watch Space Seed! New to the channel, great reaction!
Star Trek II is the most action, and IV the most humor. While the odds are needed for the storyline, the even treks tend to be the best Star Treks.
The Enterprise isn't just any old starship. She's the flagship of Starfleet. The best of the best.
Enterprise was already a legendary vessel by this point in her career.
Great reaction to one of my favorite underrated movies based on the 1967 television series...woulda helped if you watched the TV series, especially for the sequel, an even better movie...LOVE you reactions. Please react to the sequel... Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan!
The original series is definitely a prerequisite for watching the rest of Trek. I suggest watching the various series and movies in more or less the order they were released. Everything after 2005 was changed radically, and a great many fans think the core ideas that made Star Trek what it was are missing from 2005 on.
I haven't yet seen anyone comment explaining Spock's curt manner. His people, the Vulcans had a period in their history when emotions got the better of them and they nearly destroyed their entire civilization. After that, they chose to dedicate themselves to a more logical way of life. This included the nearly complete suppression of emotion. Watching the original series would be the best place to start. It explains a lot.
Star Trek Voyager, and Star Trek Enterprise also had Vulcans as main characters.
A lot of fans think Deep Space 9 has a couple of episodes that rank among the best in all of TV.
It's amazing how much of Star Trek and the characters that you understood, even though you never watched the original series. I highly recommend that you watch the original three seasons in order to get a better grasp of the Star Trek mythos, especially for the three main characters of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. P.S. Everyone loves Scotty. I'm glad that you loved him almost right away.
This was an interesting choice for first Star Trek movie/episode. I LOVE the Motion Picture. It's my favorite of the films in that it tries to be something bigger and grander than the rest. You watched the theatrical cut - they just came out with the directors edition in 4K which is absolutely brilliant. There is a lot of Star Trek to get lost in, and lots of it is worth checking out. The original series is a product of its time, but there are many episodes that hold up extremely well today. Enjoy!
If you get to watch the Star Trek Original series, from the 1960s, you will see TV-budgeted high-level SF achieved.
It's why Star Trek became such a huge thing.
You will also see that this story was done before. 'Nomad'.
Worth seeking out.
It's often very good SF, sometimes silly. Sometimes it's just familiar drama in outer space. Still good.
This movie presumes you know who the main characters are, what Starfleet is, who the Klingons are. It presumes you know all about Kirk, Spock & McCoy's long time friendship,who his Vulcan father & human mother are; & all about Spock's struggle between his logical Vulcan side & emotional human side. The love letter to Enterprise is because it's been a decade since we last saw this ship, & it's for the fans. The TV Enterprise, a plastic model built in the late 1960s, was a more primitive model.
This movie was the first time we had a true Federation starship! All those aliens was a wonderful treat. Previously, Enterprise had a human crew + Spock.
Ultimately, it was one of Roddenberry's favorite plots: the search for God.
Good explanation of what the movie expected of its audience... In particular, for this film, newbies need to understand that bit about the rather long Enterprise reveal. ;-]
At the end there, perhaps you meant to say that his favorite plot was the _futility_ of the search for God, since Roddenberry was an atheist. You will notice that in most, if not all of those searches, when they found what they were looking for, it turned out to be something else entirely. Never more evident than in the line, _"What does God need with a starship?"_
Unlike religions, Gene wasn't presuming to teach us _what_ to think, but instead he showed examples of _how_ to think critically. The scientific method never really set out to replace religious superstition with knowledge... it's just a happy coincidence. ;-]
Thanks for your review I love this movie
Instant sub, great reaction! It seems like even half of the Trek community rails on this film because of its slower pace and cerebral feel but it was awesome you enjoyed it for what it is! When I first got my iPhone way back this soundtrack was the first mp3s I loaded lol
Yes the soundtrack was really good and I suppose the slower pace allows you to enjoy that soundtrack more
When it came out, many fans called the "the motionless picture". People watched the several times. It's not a bad movie, at all. It was very hurried in production and really needed a few more edits. Perhaps it's too similar to one of the 1960's episodes, the changeling" all the movies have a very different style.
Clearly having a background in the tv show will add to the experience, perhaps if you watch certain key episodes like amok time, space seed, errand of mercy, enterprise incident.
Yes, I actually liked the slower pace mystery I found it quite refreshing
We now have the completed film, but when it released theatrically in 1979, there were unfinished effects and so on. The release was set in stone and they rushed postproduction to get it to the cinemas.
Now they've gone back completed the effects shots. The scene where they're walking on the Enterprise saucer section used to be a distorted looking matte painting.
Welcome to the world of Trek! :D
Thank you!
I like how you catch on quickly to McCoy and Scott's personalities. Decker and Ilya are entirely new, never seen before and never seen again. Ilya was played by the lovely Persis Khambatta, Miss India 1965.
They're sooooooorta seen again, except their names are changed to Riker and Troi. They recycled the original concept for Decker and Ilia from the proposed new TV show that became The Motion Picture, but look at how the back story is the same. They almost have identical reunion scenes in their introductions. After all, it's Star Trek, they love to recycle anything they can. SFX shots, plots, actors, name it. 😁
I watched this movie dozens of times before I realized why Decker wanted to join with V'Ger. He didn't want to join with V'Ger, but with Ilia. When he left her home planet, he chose his career over her, but now he had a second chance to be with her (in some form) or to continue to chase his career, he chose her this time, because he knew her consciousness was a part of V'Ger. I felt stupid for not realizing it sooner.
Interesting that this is the first Star Trek thing you watch. I get it, it's the first movie. But this movie is built on the stuff from the 60's TV series. That's where these characters and the universe are established. But hey, if you're liking this, then just keep going! There's no wrong way to enjoy Star Trek! As a life-long Star Trek fan, I am always happy to welcome new fans to this universe that we all love so much!!!
To give you an idea how big the cloud is, 2AUs is about 186,000,000 miles (or if you're watching the original theatrical version, 82AUs is 7.3 billion miles)
Vulcans have emotions but they suppress them. Their emotions are much stronger than ours and will overwhelm them if they allow it, so they learnt a long time ago to suppress them in favour of logic.
Fun Facts: the Creator of Star Trek Gene Rodenberry was a Navy man who sited Forester (Hornblower books) and O'Brian (Master and Commander) for inspiring him. The real British Navy Officer Cochrane inspired both writers. He served in four Navys and helped to found 4 Countries. Later he returned to England and helped transition the Brits to steam. Gene named his inventor of Warp drive for him. Also one of the first 6 US frigates was the Enterprise under Decator in the Barbary wars, her sister ship is the oldest active duty ship in the world still able to sail in Boston, USS Constitution. WWII Enterprise was a carrier as the following ships with the name. One is being broken up now with a replacement Ford class Enterprize being built (Provided the BO lobby don't get a name change).
Gene Roddenberry was NOT a Navy man. He served in the Army Air Corps.
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"I'm Assuming There's A Series That Proceeds This?"
There was a Star Trek TV series that proceeded this movie. The TV series aired from 1966 to 1969.
This movie was originally intended to be the pilot episode of a new Star Trek series, titled "Star Trek: Phase II" that had the original cast, minus Leonard Nimoy as Spock, returning and introducing a few new characters, including Commander Deckard and Lieutenant Ilia. But, elements of this new series were recycled into other Star Trek series, including 2 full episodes that would appear in "Star Trek:The Next Generation"
From what I've read, Gene Roddenberry had always wanted to do some really high-concept science fiction with _Star Trek_ (along the lines of _Forbidden Planet_ or _2001: A Space Odyssey_ ), and this was finally his chance to do it. He certainly did not disappoint.
Yes, Star Trek: TOS (The Original Series) has plenty of lore, but you picked a decent place to start anyway. The 1966 television series is just that, television level budgets for sets, and 1966 era visual effects. The narratives were groundbreaking for their time because they were veiled ways to address social issues of the day, and rather effectively. Yes, it's dated, but worth a watch if you grant it special consideration based on those things.
I remember both of the Voyagers. They were big news. At around this time the first Voyager was beginning to send back the first close-up images of Jupiter. Everyone who saw the film would have known the name Voyager. Most would also recognise all the original cast members from the 1960s.
Great reaction!
I recommend that you watch Star Trek the original series (often abbreviated as TOS) before proceeding to the movie Star Trek II.
You should watch at least TOS season 1 because Star Trek II continues the story of one of the TOS season 1 episodes.
At that point, I think you will know whether or not you want to continue watching TOS and the other Star Trek movies based on TOS, which I hope you will.
Before this, there were three seasons of the original live action series and one season of an animated show which are considered to be four of the five year voyage
Good point... btw, the animated series had two seasons.
Very refreshing to see someone appreciate this amazing film for what it is, instead of bemoaning what it isn't. The tonal shift from the original series threw all lot of long-time fans when it was released, and another common complaint, the abundance of long, ponderous FX sequences, you're simply enjoying for what it is. And at the time, the FX was unparalleled in scope and sense of scale.
Comparable to Kubrick and 2001 A Space Odyssey I believe from 1968.
@@cashflowhustles While I agree 2001 was amazing visually, and comparable - I really do think ST:TMP pulled out all the stops. Where 2001 succeeded in a sense of sparse isolation in space, this film filled space with continuous wonders.
The dynamic between the two captains is similar in 1958’s Run Silent, Run Deep (also directed by Robert Wise).
Welcome to an amazing journey! Before you continue with the second movie I recommend you watch some of the episodes of the original series, especially the episode Space Seed, which connects directly with the second movie.
Think someone else mentioned this so I’m definitely have too :)
@@WillTalksMovies The short list of ten episodes of the original series that not only provide critical character information seen in the films but also give good insight into the characters and provide a great overall sense of what Star Trek is would be as follows (in chronological order of their airing):
"The Menagerie, Parts 1 & 2"
"Balance of Terror"
"Space Seed"
"Errand of Mercy"
"The City on the Edge of Forever"
"Amok Time"
"The Doomsday Machine"
"Journey to Babel"
"The Trouble with Tribbles"
@@exhistoriascientia thank you for this, I will look into it and probably do a community post to see what people want me to watch :)
@@WillTalksMovies The first two seasons of Star Trek garnered a total of 8 of 10 Hugo Award nominations from 1967-1968 (sweeping every nomination the second year) and capturing the Hugo Award (science fiction's highest honor) both times. The only TV series to win a Hugo prior was The Twilight Zone and no other TV show would win again until the sequel Star Trek: The Next Generation a quarter century later (it garnered 3 nominations and 2 Hugo Awards in its run). Back then TV shows and movies didn't have separate categories which was why TV shows rarely got nominated much less won which puts Star Trek's achievements in much more impressive context.
As a lifelong Trekker I am probably in the minority with TMP being my joint fave Trek movie alongside ST2. It tells a really good smart science fiction story with characters I love and it sells the visuals, scale and the vastness and strangeness of space better than all the other Trek films IMHO. I highly recommend you watch the original series which features the same main cast (1966-1969). It's usually always on some channel here in the UK. Pretty sure it's Legend at the mo as I often catch an episode early weekday evenings despite owning them all and having seen them many, many times. Great way to relax by spending time with my old friends on the Enterprise. ☺
It’s my favorite of the original crew films as well.
Star Trek, like Doctor Who, came from the 1960's. The original series, oft called just TOS, ran from 1966-69, was briefly an animated show in the 70's when it went into syndication & became huge... This is the first movie of six featuring the original crew. Subsequent other Trek spinoff shows have followed, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space 9 all take place about 100 years after Kirk & co in the 24th century. The Trek universe is slowly 'fleshing out' with prequel shows like Enterprise (22nd century), Discovery & Strange New Worlds set prior to TOS.
At its heart Trek has a simple philosophy about a possible future of no war, no racism, no prejudice/bigotry, where we finally come together to explore space together. I suggest you check out TOS to get character backgrounds (you'll fall in love with the original crew) etc then move onto TNG which dramatically expanded the Trek universe back in the 80's.
Roddenberry had that kind of philosophy and he was a nut.
With episodes like "Balance of Terror" or "Errand of Mercy" there's no way there's no war or racism in this version of the future.
@@eq1373 Whilst the show discussed those themes, it was about a unified world exploring space where humans have advanced beyond where we are now. Its a show about an egalitarian society of the future quite a few people would like to live in. Its unashamed optimism is why its so successful over the last 60 years or so.
Yay the old Star Trek movies, I hope you enjoy. Did someone warn you that this first movie is a bit slow, it’s very 70s artsy. The next movie is much quicker and has more action.
I actually enjoyed the slowness of it felt like you were discovering it with them :)
@@WillTalksMoviesdefinitely hope you check out the rest. My favourites are the 2nd movie, 6th movie and 8th movie.
@@WillTalksMoviesthey definitely pick up tempo a bit in the rest of the movies. Some people even call this movie the "slow motion picture"
It's kinda hard to realise the impact of this movie if you weren't around in 1979 when it was released. Two years after Star Wars, 11 years after the original Star Trek TV series was cancelled....a massive event. It gets a bit of negative reviews on it's pacing but I find this first Trek movie much more grounded to the original series than anything else that came after it, as good as they are as well.
You've already noticed that Vulcans like Spock are an alien species who completely suppress all emotions and focus on logic. The Vulcans are the intellectual giants of the Star Trek universe, focused on intellect and not openly feeling. Vulcans are also telepathic and have the ability to read minds (to some degree) by putting their hands on someone's head.
Touch telepaths. Also, the reason Vulcans embraced logic was to stop themselves wiping each other out, as they were originally a VERY violent species. Those that refused embrace it left the planet and became Romulans.
I recommend checking out the following episodes of the original series before continuing on with this franchise -- most are episodes that the film series reference in some way, and the rest are simply some of the best episodes of the series:
1. Where No Man Has Gone Before
2. The Corbomite Maneuver
3. Tomorrow Is Yesterday
4. Balance of Terror
5. Space Seed
6. The Devil In The Dark
7. Errand of Mercy
8. City On The Edge Of Forever
9. Amok Time
10. The Changeling
11. Journey To Babel
12. The Doomsday Machine
13. The Trouble With Tribbles
14. Mirror, Mirror
15. Let This Be Your Last Battlefield
This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a "best of" list -- the original series had 79 episodes, and these 15 simply give a rough overview that will help give context to the films. I've ignored some great episodes simply because they have no direct impact on the film series, though I've included a few here which are just great episodes that should be seen.
From now on it is ok to continue with these 6 movies 1979 - 1991. Of course it is better to get to know the orininal series from the 1960s first to learn more about this crew. There are some cool stories to discover but of course it is difficult to watch an almost 60 yo tv show and not get distracted by the limitet visuals ;)
Star Trek - The Next Generation (the very iconic series I grew up with) continues the saga almost a century after captain Kirk. Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) commands a way more modern ship in the late 24th century for 7 seasons until 1994 and 4 following movies until 2002 with an even newer Enterprise in cinema.
Deep Space Nine is the most complex series showing the following years and developing great character arcs. It was not to be continued in cinemas.
Voyager also takes place in those later 24th century years, no following movie as well.
Enterprise decided to tell the early years a century before Kirk, when the Federation of Planets was to be founded, when humans just began to explore deep space.
The following 3 movies and tv shows can be seen as a reboot of the franchise, so now a third generation of viewers can step on board the ship to discover strange new worlds, hoping the journey will never end :)
Very pleased that you enjoyed it. My favorite is Star Trek 2
No Mister Will... all your comments made perfect sense... well done!
The transporter malfunction, the transporter lost a lot of the signal during transport, and then the transporter tried to "form" them (i.e. put them together, as it naturally does) but it only had about half the signal and half the material (like trying to put a big Lego set together with half the instructions missing and most of the pieces missing as well) resulting in a horrific death.
I quite like The Motion Picture, but I never would recommend starting with the films (not that it's impossible to do so, mind you). The assumption was that audiences had caught a few episodes of the TV series in syndication and already had a touch of familiarity with the characters and setting.
If nothing else, I would recommend the following three episodes as prerequisite viewing:
1. Space Seed (Season 1) - referenced in Star Trek II
2. Amok Time (Season 2) - referenced in Star Trek III
3. Journey to Babel (Season 2) - referenced in Star Trek III
If someone wanted to know more about the two major alien villains, I'd also recommend:
1. Balance of Terror (Season 1) - Romulan episode
2. Errand of Mercy (Season 1) - Klingon episode
3. The Trouble with Tribbles (Season 2) - Klingon episode
And if you just wanted to see some of the best standalone episodes, here are a few:
1. This Side of Paradise (Season 1)
2. The City on the Edge of Forever (Season 1)
3. Mirror, Mirror (Season 2)
I'd have recommended the 4K Director's Cut myself. :D
I had to laugh when you said you were guessing there was stuff you missed. The original series of which this movie was a revival, was 79 episodes long. The decker and illia characters were new to this movie, the other actors who had parts were original crew.
It’s really crazy to me that decker and illia are new characters
Good reaction
14:20 "If youre gonna say something, say it quick!" -- They *can't*, that's the whole problem. :-) The "wormhole effect" is a time distortion; time inside the ship is slowing down at a geometric rate. (Admittedly not well explained in the movie; the novelization explains it a bit better.)
16:44 Yes, there is a lot of lore behind this -- although not so much with those two characters, specifically. Decker and Ilia were new characters not seen in the Original Series, although they *would* have been series regulars if the intended "Star Trek: Phase II" series had gone into production. (This movie actually started out as a possible script for one of the Phase II episodes, and then when Paramount changed their mind in the wake of Star Wars' success and decided to do a feature film instead, the "In Thy Image" script was repurposed into the feature film.)
18:58 I loved that warp effect as well. I always wished they'd kept it for the future movies and TV series, but the slit-scan technique needed to achieve it was complicated and time-consuming, so I can see why they didn't.
Underrated film. Love it!
It’s actually so good and original
Great reaction, figuring things out along the way quite well considering you came into this cold. It would help to have seen the original TV series so you could have the familiarity we all had. I got partway thru the comments and you have already seen a lot of what I would tell/advise for just starting out. If nothing else, see "Space Seed" before Star Trek II, but better to watch the entire TOS run since there is so much great stuff to appreciate.
There indeed was a TV series that came before the film, if you DO decide to watch the other films, I recommend watching at least some of the episodes.
Space Seed is a direct prequel to II and City on the Edge of Forever is an all-time classic. There's a number of other outstanding episodes. As they are an anthology you don't need to watch them in order.
@@boristurovskiy351 indeed, if I had to choose five episodes to watch to set up the films, it'd probably be "Space Seed", "Balance of Terror", "The Trouble With Tribbles", "Journey to Babel", and either "Amok Time" or "The Enterprise Incident", for the worldbuilding and character building that the films use as a basis.
The bald chick is Persis Khambatta. She was Miss India the previous year. Her character Ilea is a race that can influence people with their pheromones. Deltan.
Oh wow that’s so cool!
@@WillTalksMovies there's a reference to a Star Trek villain in Kill Bill. That's her.
@@couch.patati-patatawell kill bill is on my list to react too
There is no need to compare Star Trek to Star Wars, they are two very different beasts. SW is more of a "mythological story in space" whereas Star Trek is pure fun sci fy. (not quite hard sci fy).
That transporter accident is one of the rare ones we see. It's usually a very safe mean of transportation.
oh wow.... Did you watch on youtube? The alien language parts has subtitles. Or it should have. IDKY but movies for sale on youtube can be missing subtitles.
Yes I noticed this, so what I did was load up the movie on my phone at the same time as on my screen as my phone had subtitles 😂
@@WillTalksMovies Oh thats good. Most of the movies have some alien languages with subtitles. Glad you have a solution. 😀
I'm a big trekkie. fun seeing a totally blind reaction.
If you'd ever like a spoiler-free opinion on which episodes to watch, watch order, etc, feel free to get in touch
Much appreciated, think I will go through the series after the movies :)
I hope you watch the other movies too, one thing thats great about the movies is how different they are
I'd definitely check out at least some of the original series, as specific things are kind of the plot of the next movie. "Space Seed" for sure, but a few others to get the feel for the characters. Welcome aboard, and great reaction.
Thank you so much!
Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan is a must see. It's way better in many ways to this movie. You definitely need to see that. It's also the beginning of a 3 movie story arc too. So that will get you to Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
Will, welcome aboard to Star Trek!! Are we ready for the next one guys?? The other movies are GREAT! Are you going to do Star Trek II now? Im ready to go!!!!
you should do some of the original series tv shows there were 82 to understand the characters more and their friendships of the main cast
Bold choice for a first look to Star Trek. This is actually my favourite of the movie series, but can be very difficult for a newbie, especially if accostumed to the style of modern blockbusters.
@@andreabindolini7452 think that’s what made me appreciate it more and slower pace
@@WillTalksMovies If you want to concede a second view in future, I suggest the recent Director's Edition, totally restored and with special effects reworked and completed according to the original plans, that for budgetary reasons remained somewhat incomplete in the theatrical cut you saw here. Really a big improvement of an already impressive movie (according to some, the most expensive movie in the world, along with the first "Superman", at the time of its production).
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This movie was directed by legendary director Robert Wise (who also directed “The Day the Earth Stood Still”), & it was modeled after Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey”.
Little tip. You must watch TOS episode Space Seed before STII.
Space seed reaction out tomorrow!
You're loving the scene most fans were impatient with - the long, long, long shot of the Enterprise. So I now get a bit of the thinking behind it. It was made for people like you - who never saw the show.
It made me really appreciate the ship and the effects
It's worth reading the novelisation of this film (though I'll admit it's a PITA getting hold of it) as well - it's esssentially Gene Roddenberry's vision of humanity's future, and it really only fully reasonates with people who grew up or were mentally formed in that tech-positive futuristic Apollo (or "white heat of technology", for us Brits) era. I kinda got it secondhand through reading old fifties science fiction a lot as a child, and even so I'm feeling it a bit.
Be sure to watch original series episode ," Space Seed ", Star Trek is always cool !!!!❤
The series will surprise you. 😊
Have you ever seen Galaxy Quest (the movie)? "The animal is inside out...and it exploded..."
Nope I haven’t, is it something I should add to my list?
@WillTalksMovies Yes! Galaxy Quest is a fun, well constructed film (with a stacked cast in retrospect) that stands up on its own, but it is an homage to Star Trek, so you will catch more references if you are familiar with Captain Kirk's and/or Captain Picard's Enterprise voyages.
@@WillTalksMovies Yes, definitely. There is a scene in it explicitly inspired by the transporter accident.
I like bones super fly colar
Best thing about the movie is the fantastic Jerry Goldsmith modernist score, no John Williams leitmotifs hre!
Hi; as Kirk would say ' welcome aboard'. Hope you are ready: 12 movies,6 tv series. ENT,Tos,Tng,Ds9, voyager,st Picard.
Thank you, can’t wait!
Welcome to Star Trek. The Original Series is 79 episodes. If you do not want to watch all of it before watching Star Trek II, You should at least watch a few Episodes: 'Balance of Terror', 'Journey To Babel', 'Space Seed', 'City on the Edge of Forever', and 'The Doomsday Machine' are my recommendations for 5 to watch But 'Space Seed' is essential.
Here's a list of episodes that are directly referenced by the movies. It'll give you a good Baseline :
Space Seed
Tomorrow Is Yesterday
Errand of Mercy
Amok Time
Journey To Babel
The DoomsDay Machine
Is There In Truth No Beauty?
There are almost 100 episodes of live-action before this movie plus several seasons of an animated series
Including one with Decker's father
The original live-action series (TOS) has 79 episodes over 3 seasons, & the Animated Series (TAS) has 22 episodes over 2 seasons, so just over 100 total.
Why did you start here? 😂 I guess you can start anywhere but if the show started out on TV I would focus on the TV show as opposed to the movies. Just a suggestion. But at least you dove in somewhere. 🤣😅
Unfortunately, you've watched the original theatrical release. It's, for all practical purposes, a rough-cut version of the film; essential, it's unfinished.
I highly recommend revisiting this movie by watched the 4K Director's Cut which was released a year or two ago.
The original theatrical release sacrifced many of the characters' themes in favour of special effects -- and, frankly, they didn't have time to edit the special effects, so they were forced to add them ALL in.
yeah, this was the rushed version that's not really finished version that showed in theaters. The Director's cut is the better version. Better effects, pacing and story editing. Oh well. Wish you coulda seen the better version, but glad you got to try it. Hope you enjoy the next one!
This one was a bit slow pased for newbies, but the second film is more fast paced, but you might want to watch the original series episode Space Seed to get a full understanding of what's going on :)
The actor that played Decker is Stephen Collins. Who turned out to be a child predator. In a December 2014 interview with People magazine, Collins admitted that he committed "inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors" in 1973, 1982, and 1994. Under the age of 14.
Montgomery Scott - Scotty
While- absolutely!- you should watch _Star Trek: The Original Series_ for context on the characters and backstories (and yes, _TOS_ is _very much_ a product of its time despite how progressive it was), I am also pleased that you watched the original theatrical version of _The Motion Picture, instead of_ the Director's Cut (2002, overseen and completed by director Robert Wise before he passed away) or more-recent Ultra 4K HD Remaster (2023). By watching the Theatrical version of _TMP_ first, you will- at a later time- be able to appreciate what the original complaints and issues against it were, _and what specifically_ the latter modified versions brought to the table.
Just found your channel. It’s great that u r watching Star Trek. I grew up with trek in reruns in the 70s. And then Star Wars came out as well. Some people r surprised I’m a fan of both. Till this day I still watch original series episodes every weekend. They never get old.
This is what trek is all about. Unfortunately in 2017 they came out with a new series that tossed out everything trek & filled it with pointless agenda!
Well thank you very much and I hope you enjoy my adventure as much as I do :)
I grieve for the families 😞😞😞
You should probably watch some of the original series. Perhaps fans could make a list of the better episodes. The next movie (which many consider the best Trek film) is a direct sequel to the Star Trek episode "Space Seed". So you might want to watch that first.
before this live action series and animated series then movies up to 6 hen NG, Ds9, Voyager, hen 7h movie and he rest then Lower Decks, Picard, Discovery, Srange New Worlds
How soon will you react to _Star Trek III?_ Will you watch any original episodes, such as those I suggested in a comment for _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan?_
Search for Spock will be this FRIDAY! and yes once movies are completed think I will go back through the series!
I recommend watching Star Trek the Original Series.
You're in for it now! 😆 You need to watch Star Trek II thru IV as an extended story line; Star Trek V is watchable, but arguably the weakest, and Star Trek VI is a fitting conclusion for the original cast. What most people who haven't watched the original series don't realize is how "experimental" ST:TMP was. It came out 10 years after the original series ended on TV, and the Starfleet unitards and those long, beauty shots of the Enterprise (from a time when studio models ruled) that newbies clown on were teething pains for the cinematic franchise. Go back and compare the Enterprise from ST:TOS to ST:TMP -- the ship is iconic and beautiful.
There's no backstory of the bald lady and Commander Decker, although his father is a memorable character in the original series. The score for this film is a masterpiece - maybe Jerry Goldsmith's best work. Definitely recommend Wrath of Khan - it's worthwhile to see "Space Seed' first, an episode of the original series, which has backstory, although it's not necessary.
If you can find the cinematic release of Wrath of Khan, it's much better than the subsequent TV version, which had some awful outtakes added back in. If you watch that version, the scenes in question will be obvious by the amount they make you cringe.
Glad you enjoyed this movie. It's typically not well appreciated outside the more hardcore of star trek fans.
Yess loved this it was very refreshing from modern media for me :)
Very beautiful starship, constitution refit class