Bishop Barron on the Sacrament of Marriage
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2017
- Recently, I had the great good pleasure of presiding at the wedding of my niece, Bryna and her now husband, Nelson. While we rejoice in their love for each other, the fact that they have now become living symbols of Christ the Bridegroom’s ecstatic love for his Bride, the Church is reason, in the very deepest sense, to give thanks.
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My girl is catholic I love her with all my heart. I pray God will give me the courage to see if God wills me to become Catholic too. I’ve been non-denominational for years but I feel drawn to the Catholic faith please pray 🙏 for me
I will keep you in my prayers!
I’ll pray for you too 😊🙏🏻✝️💜 God bless you both!
Bishop Barron, My fiancé and I are engaged to be married and both of us converted to Catholicism this past year from our respective Protestant churches. You played an important role in our journey to The Church. God Bless you and please pray for us!
Matt D I'll pray for you both :)
why did you leave the protestant church-
@@a.kamileon Because Truth compels us to follow it
@@mattnd20 truth is not in Catholic doctrine. praying to saints is idolatry and living in sin. please repent. also works isn’t getting you to heaven.
@@a.kamileon Worshipping saints would be sinful, asking them to pray for you is far from that. I agree, my works won't get me to Heaven, the Church condemned this hersey called Pelagianism. You and I need God's grace.
My dream is to receive sacrament in marriage one day. Vanity and glamour wedding never been my dream. I feel the presence of God's love in Eucharist every time I attend Mass.
The Sacrament of Matrimony is absolutely beautiful. It's so deep that sometimes it's hard attending other wedding ceremonies.
It could still be purified. Why do you think their are so many divorces? Because weddings have become more about spending huge amounts of money catering to the vanity of one person. This attracts entitled and selfish woman instead of humble and meek woman, which is bad for the family and gets in trouble. Honestly, if we can find a way to purify and fix how weddings work- and make them lees expensive- but keep what is good about them- we can keep the weddings just as fun and enjoyable- to make them better.
Catholic weddings have also become materialistic. Very few people value simplicity. No one wants to have the reception in the church hall, with pot luck, or volunteers serving a buffet. Young couples could save so much $$, but they give in to expectations.
My entire life, I have never heard those verses from Isaiah connected to the miracle of Jesus and the wine. As someone who has gone to church her whole life and has willingly and enthusiastically studied the bible for most of those years, and who is about to start the process of conversion to Catholicism, that connection of transformation from water to wine to eucharist through the love of the bridegroom....really helps to reconcile one of the more difficult Church tenants for a former Protestant to believe. Thank you.
God bless you!
Jennifer Alexander Awesome
Welcome home Jennifer!!
Well said Jennifer. I would guess your observation was a result of His grace for you.
While you’re here (on this media platform) why not ask all the readers to pray for you during your “Journey Home”!?
Read isaias 22:21-23 why the Pope and priests are called father !!! Compare with the Gispel where Jesus delegate the authority to Peter....
As a married woman for five years now and a Christian Living teacher in a Catholic school, i'd say Bp. Barron's succinct explanation on the Sacrament of Matrimony is extraordinarily enlightening. This short video preached wonderful blessings to me! Blessed be God Almighty!
My husband and I got married in the church almost 3 years ago. At the time I had no idea what any of it meant or what Christian marriage was even supposed to look like. Thanks to videos like yours, God has taught us so much. We still have so much to learn so I hope you never stop making videos :)
Bishop, one aspect of marriage that few people talk about and something you hinted at is the power of the Sacrament of marriage. I loved how you said, "It's as if the two become a Sacrament." I couldn't agree more. The couple becomes a Sacrament for one another throughout their lives, in all they do - God wants to love us through our spouse, that's how He gives grace in and through the Sacrament. And there's the power! I hope more people fully appreciate the Truth, Beauty, and Goodness of marriage. It's something to gaze in wonder upon and I'm fortunate to wonder alongside my bride as we deepen our gratitude of the Sacrament and be that Sacrament throughout our lives for one another.
Bishop Barron, thank you for this! I was searching for something to explain how Catholics's understand ( or should understand!) this Sacrament! Pray for me! It's difficult for someone raised Protestant ( as I was, also) to grasp the idea of marriage as more than "we love each other so let's be married before God in Church" - but if it is a mistake and I don't feel "in love" anymore, God promises to forgive us when we divorce.
Bishop Barron, I am thankful that it was YOU who taught me that love is much more than just "a feeling".
Praying for you and your ministry 🙏🏻
Thank you for your videos Bishop Barron. They helped see me through my difficult conversion from the LDS church into the Catholic Church. I have no doubt you will one day be proclaimed Saint Robert Barron (of the Internet? 😉). You're always in my prayers. Peace be with you
Amber Davis God bless you! Your prayers mean the world to me.
It's nice to see I'm not the only former member of the LDS church who has been brought to Catholicism partly through Bishop Barron's work. I'd love to chat with you about your experience if you're interested.
Thanks Bishop Barron! Please make some commentary on the Biblic series of Jordan Peterson! can be found on his youtube channel!
My fiancé is a Roman Catholic & I am an Anglican, we are engaged to be married & have graduated from the marriage preparation course on 27 May 2018 ☺️
There is no such " roman" Catholic. Anglicans coined that term to pose themselves as Catholics, which they are not!!!
what would we do without Barron explaining things to us. thanks
Say it right it's telling you how to think .
Bishop Barron: You have a wonderful gift for bringing out the intelligence, richness and sheer breath-taking beauty of Catholic teaching. Thank you!
Anointed and sent by the Church of God
Thank you for the continued insight into the sacraments that you provide.
Something that I got while praying the rosary a number of years ago during this very mystery was how The Mass and Marriage feed each other. The Mass gives us marriage while marriage gives us people to become or make the elements of the Mass. Through the Sacrament of Marriage the church is given priests and laity to celebrate and farmers to make the bread and wine that will be used later for the Mass. Mom showed me how marriage is exhibited as the means of creating the matter for the Mass.
This video offers great commentary on the deeper reality of a sacramental marriage, that the married couple becomes a sacrament, a sign of God's relationship with His Church--that's the line that that sums it up so well.
I also recognize the church in the wedding Mass photos as St. Giles in Oak Park, IL. I live there, and while I have a different home parish, I have attended Mass in St. Giles church from time to time. How wonderful that Bishop Barron celebrated Mass there.
His excellency does have a good and valid point. Saint Paul said, “Love is patient, love is kind.” Most engaged couples miss the point of what the sacrament of marriage. I’ve never been married before but I have attended weddings in the past.
Another piece of Catholic teaching that raises human dignity to heights that we can hardly comprehend.
Beautiful! Thank you for this video, Bishop Barron.
Bishop, thank you for posting this video. Those passages from Isaiah in connection with the Wedding Feast at Cana were beautiful. I've been thinking a lot about Jesus' miracles and their relation to conjugal love. I'm writing a paper on how the divine love revealed to us in Christ through his miracles is imaged in the relationship between man and woman.
Looking at Cana under this idea, Thomas Treherne once wrote about the miracle "The Conscious Waters saw their Maker and blushed." Fulton Sheen once said that he wished he could write a poem like that and then die out of love. This line reminded me of a story a man told me about his wife. He said when they first met she didn't really do or say anything. He just saw her and smiled or "blushed" in response to her presence and she then did the same. I understand that this is a natural phenomenon, while Christ's miracles are supernatural and divine, but I can't help but think there is an image here.
Do you think that all of Christ's miracles are, in some natural way, imaged in the relationship between husband and wife and their love for one another?
Thank you Bishop Barron for explaining the meaning of the Wedding of Cana.
Hell YEAH! I'm getting married in October. And this just got me even more excited(atheist revert). Also I really appreciate the production value of these videos increasing. I've been watching for years. THANK YOU, FATHER.
HELL yeah Rick!
Awesome - going to share with all my kids!
Thanks much for this video.
Beautifully explained! Thank you so much, Your Excellency! God bless from Austria
Wonderful explanation!
Thanks Bishop Barron. Really enjoyed this.
I will be praying for your niece and her husband!
Beautiful explanation.
Bishop Barron, what a beautiful presentation on the Sacrament of Marriage. I look forward more and more of receiving your DVD series on the Seven Sacraments.
Such a fresh perspective of Cana! It reminded me of your book "Eucharist" wherein you spoke about the communal meal aspect of the Mass. We should also be aware that it is the Blessed Virgin who facilitates her Son's desire to be our Bridegroom. It was she who told the stewards "Do whatever He tells you". And many blessings on the happy couple!
And Our Lord loves us with the emotional intensity (passion) that is part of the joy of the newly married.
beautiful insight! Please send me your blessing. Thank you so much, your Excellency! Greetings from Austria
Such a beautiful video your excellency!
This teaching can save the laity from most of the marriage related issues
hey Bishop Barron! This is a great video. Wanted to thank you again for the Pivotal Players series again, had a amazing first night tackling Saint Francis of Assisi. Everyone came away with an understanding of redemptive suffering, and what "rejoicing" in it means. We dove into St. Paul's Scripture where he rejoices in his suffering and unifies his suffering to the Cross, and that led to talks about sanctity of life vs quality of life ethic, euthanasia in culture and how we can encourage life in those debating euthanasia. The questions you provided led to so many other questions. We ended with more topics we wanted to discuss about Francis, and in prayer using Francis' beautiful canticle of the sun. I'll know for next time I do this program to do one video per night rather than one Saint (both parts) as the discussion afterwards was very fruitful. I could go on and on, tonight was great. Thanks Bishop Barron!
Lovely sermon ❤
God bless you, always ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Hey Bishop Barron! Wanted to let you know that week 2 Saint Thomas Aquinas was a huge hit in Calgary! Double numbers tonight from week 1! Excellent ministry, getting to go in depth with the questions and pray together and read the Bible and Catechism together. People opened up their heart, 26 people were participating in the discussion after the videos! Thanks for the work on Aquinas you've done, it has sparked an interest in all of his work in our Devoted Messengers of Christ group! God Bless you Bishop Barron!
Bishop Barron thank you so much for that beautiful commentary on the Sacrament of Marriage. Did you know we are coming up on the 140th Anniversary of Pope Leo XII's encyclical Arcanum Divinae, the 90th Anniversary of Pope Pius XI's encyclical Casti Conbuii, and the 40th Anniversary of Saint John Paul II's encyclical Familiaris Consortio. What an amazing opportunity the "Holy Spirit" is presenting to discuss these three amazing Encyclicals. God Bless and in my prayers.........
I really like this connection, amazing way to thread all this together, especially at a wedding. Gives me ideas of hope for my own future wife (shes out there somewhere) and marriage ceremony 🙂
What beautiful truth!
I wish them happiness.
I was one of the sponsors for Nelson's confirmation class - I just love connections like this... love the universal church! & I love this video - the vocation of marriage & Christ's intimate love for His church!
Bishop, please make a review on the HBO series "The Young Pope," the way he prays is truly moving (for better or worse).
When I hear the music at the beginning I have to start doing a little dance.
UnratedAwesomeness lollolol
It has SUCH a weird tone idk
Thanks for another really interesting video! Lately the lighting in your videos is different than it used to be - it seems darker. I thought it was better before when it was brighter.
We need marriage textbooks!
When the couple marries before the Lord Jesus, the
choice wine will never run out in that home...kept to the end....
Pray for me, Bishop. I'm engaged and my fiance is joining the church. - John in KY
Terrific! Congratulations.
ZACHARY SALAZAR bless you Zach and Bishop Barron!
Woo Hoo! Sacrament of marriage!
Bishop Baron - thank you so much for your videos. I am a calvinist and enjoy them so much! I wish more pastors/priests did this kind of thing. It is very helpful!
Great insight. I give another reason for the place the church gives marriage. We are called to love our neighbor as ourselves, and this love isn't a feeling, its action. To feed, clothe, house, nurse, care, forgive each other, and that starts with our own family, our own children. And the highest action that we can do to love our children, is to love, honor, cherish, and build a life of mutual aid, joy, and comfort with the person with which we share parenthood. This is where the kingdom begins.
Please analise Hacksaw Ridge. I´m confused with the anti-gun message that is in the movie. Thanks
how can I find the splendid mural that appears at 5:52?
Thank you for your ministry, Bishop Barron! ...This was a great video, as they all are! ...I have a question though - I've now heard you speak to the nature of God both as a Person, and also as a non-Being. (God as the very nature of Being in itself, but not one Being among may.) How can God NOT be a being, but ALSO be a person? How does one resolve that? That sorta blows my mind. Any help you can offer is appreciated, thank you! ~Kirsten Rose, Waukesha WI
As the sheer act of to-be itself, God must be in possession of all ontological perfection. This means he must have intelligence, freedom, and self-consciousness, the constituent elements of personhood.
Thank You!
Bishop Barron please keep doing the great job that you are doing for God our creator
Thank you for another inspired video. Where was the ceremony? That church is so beautiful!
Nancy Winfree St. Giles Church in Oak Park, Illinois.
Thank you!
When one 8 min vid helps tackle a major part of your High School Catholic Sacrament Test:
Edit: i got an A.
@Nathan Polkinghorne Which book/textbook?
Bishop, while I like that you've stepped up your production values, I'm not sure I like seeing your face partially in shadow. Do you think you could improve your lighting in the next video?
Other than that, I loved the video as usual!
I don't really understand why many people here feel the similarity between the work of Bp Barron and Jordan Peterson. Many people suggested in one of his previous videos too.
In my humble opinion Jordan Peterson's articulations though leading towards something noble have a secularist scientific tone. He tries to justify why somethings must be in a certain way without explicitly and directly mentioning God in his arguments. Most of his rationale is scientific. Very similar to other 'alt-righters'...who are all religious but articulate in the language of science
Nothing wrong with that. Just that science will keep changing. God is permanent. So I think this video may give an excellent and more complete answer to the question why marriage must be the way it was in the past.
Anjelus lol
That's his strength: his intellectual dexterity enables him to show the young, atheist, secular postmodernists that there is truth and beauty and depth and much, much more in the Bible.
Anyone notice that the name 'Mary' is connected to the words 'Marriage' and 'Married'?
I.e. "Mary'd" or even "Mary'ge"... There's a philosophical discovery to be made there.
Very helpful thanks.
your excellency, I really hope in the near future, you will do a video about the recent article published by La Civiltà Cattolica about the "ecumenicism of hate" that its authors believe exists in the United States between Evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics. I found the tone of the article to be very disturbing and I think I'm hardly alone among American Catholics who will do so.
maskirovka77 Yes, it was awful.
My husband and I want to have con validation marriage we are only married civilly but want a nuptial mass I’m baptized and have my holy communion sacraments I need my confirmation my husband wants to become Catholic and not yet baptized from any church what are the proper steps to take in our case bishop?
Epic
Also - I recommended you as a speaker for the Right to Life! I really hope they contact you!
Bishop Barron, if you do not mind, could you please give your thoughts on a really complicated question I have, concerning the Catholic Church's theology on marriage/sexuality? I would really appreciate it.
I feel there is a lot of stuff I need to say, in order to properly explain where I am coming from, so only respond to this in full if you really want to and have time. If you would just like to give a quick response just to say that you saw this comment and plan to look through it later, that is also something I would appreciate.
My question involves me feeling very confused and having great difficulty reconciling all these things together:
1.) The Catholic Church preaches that all components of sexual longing, including the physical urge which most of have, is part of God's intended creation for us. When I once talked to other Catholic priests, they have even said that it is not only good, but so sacred and tied to who we are, that for an individual to wish he never had that specific appetite is to want to throw away his/her own humanity, whereas God would want us to be thankful for being made this way.
2.) Catholics are NOT supposed to be like the Gnostics, who thought that only the soul was good, while the things of the body are corrupted beyond repair, inherently evil, and/or inferior counterfeits to the spiritual.
3.) When Jesus was asked by the Sadducees what would happen if a woman, married to more than one husband, was resurrected with a glorified body, Jesus replied "At the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given on marriage; they will be like the angels in Heaven." So does not imply that the sexual union of a husband/wife has no place in Heaven, where we are ultimately created to be, and that those faculties will be no more meaningful to our humanity than our appendix, wisdom teeth, etc. (vestigial organs that may have once served our primitive evolutionary ancestors, but are now pretty much useless, disposable, and sometimes harmful enough to even warrant removal)?
4.) Even during our temporary life on Earth, only a fraction of us are even called to the vocation of marriage to begin with. Many of us are called to singlehood, meant for the Holy Orders (like you), are born with homosexual inclinations and cannot orient them into sacramental man-woman marriage, or are married but unable to use their desire for sex as a reliable means of building or keeping track of intimacy (due to difficulties using NFP, permanent injuries/diseases, etc.) So those married couples live on with little to no sex. Lastly, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph are said to be fully human and the paragons of marital/familial love, yet all three of them were virgins for life (which seems to imply that they would have absolutely no use for the physical appetite for sex).
5.) While we live on Earth, the very existence of the disordered physical thirst for sexual union has created or amplified untold numbers of problems in the world (for every one thing that it potentially contributes to the world that it true/good/beautiful). Look at rape culture, sexual abuse, pornography, prostitution, human trafficking, infidelity, objectifying thoughts, abortions, STDs, people feeling fear and self-hatred towards their own bodies, fights over gay marriage, people like Origen supposedly wanting to castrate himself and Saint Francis/Benedict masochistically rolling in thorn bushes to rid his body of "impure" desires, mentalities of misogyny/misandry formed around sexual desire, fear between sexes in Puritanical repressive countries like the Middle East, children of fundamentalist parents being told they are going to Hell if they cannot stop masturbating, people trying to escape damaging Puritanism only to become no better as "Playboy" hedonists, parents making more children than they can raise, and all the countless other things I could elaborate on.
6.) Among the many things we pray to God for, one of them is that he may "lead us not into temptation."
Before I go on, I would like to state that I do understand why the other aspects that motivate sexual desire have a place and are warranted in their existence (such as bonding hormones like oxytocin being released during sex, the desire/enjoyment of mutual vulnerability, finding the nude form of the opposite gender a beautiful work of art, or the mere act of finding certain areas enjoyable to touch or be touched). However, what I do not get is why there is an physical appetite that specifically desires sexual release like a drug-induced high. If a couple is married and able to have sex, then I can see it having a purpose, since regular intimacy helps keep the bond between spouses healthy and nurtured, like food/water/sleep for the mind and body (and the desire for sex might be a helpful way to gauge whether enough time is being set aside for intimacy).
*(Okay, this is the part where I ask my one question, in as many ways as I can think of. I am only writing these following paragraphs down, and going way overboard, because I want to do my best to make sure you know what I am trying to ask)*
Intellectually, I know that nothing created can be inherently evil or bad, only a good thing that can be distorted or misused. But I am having a hard time accepting that fact in this situation. Unless someone is part of the fraction of people on Earth, who are married (and can have sex at that point in their lives), this same appetite is completely deprived of any purpose, can only be acted on as an end in itself, and actively stresses many people to push them into acting on it. So for everyone else, this God-given appetite might as well be considered an inherently evil desire to sin by the Catholic Church. If marital unity and procreation is NOT innately part of everyone's calling (and especially not in the next life by the looks of it), then why should God make the desire, that has no justification without the calling, be part of man's innate nature? It is also NOT like people are suddenly unable marry or have children, when they do not have a notable sexual libido. If it is true that what we are ultimately fated for in Heaven has no marriage, then the desire for sexual union can easily lead certain people (like those with vocations to single life or even a homosexual orientation) astray, making them get emotionally invested in what is ultimately a dead-end and, apparently, a cheap knockoff what the intended union with God is.
So in the end, how is sexual desire really the holy good that the Church builds it up to be, that is also so irreplaceable that you should not ask God to take it away from you, even if it does nothing but tempt you to sin and may even endanger both your soul and mission on Earth? When God said to Adam and Eve that a husband/wife shall become one flesh, be fruitful, and multiply, was he just giving them counterfeit goods at the time, since not even their perfect communion with God in Eden was what he ultimately intends for all of us? Are our sexual appetites disordered beyond repair after the Fall, with no hope that they will ever be restored to their original state, since it will all be jettisoned by the time we get our glorified bodies anyway? If that is what we are all simply stuck with, why does God keep requiring us to bear these diseased parts of our nature and then expect us to be grateful for it?
*Extra*
I am not sure if you have seen any version of "Little Shop of Horrors" (the 1960 film, Broadway musical, or 1986 movie based on the musical), but this is the analogy it feels like at the moment. Given the state of our fallen nature, God continuing to gift-wrap this physical libido to us feels like the equivalent of God forcing all of us to have one of those extraterrestrial Audrey II plants latched onto our backs, screaming into our ears, "Feed Me!", every day for every hour until we hurt either ourselves or others to give it human blood to drink. One might as well go further and also imagine there was no way to remove or kill that plant stuck to you, without simultaneously harming your own body (like Origen apparently did), so you just have to put up with it no matter how badly you want to just take a blowtorch and fry it. FYI, in each version of the story, the plant is meant to be a Devil figure that tempts the protagonist into committing crimes, in exchange for promises of fame and fortune, and then grows bigger, thirsts for more blood, and makes it harder for the protagonist to get out of hole he dug himself in (only you would now replace the deadly sin of "Greed" with "Lust").
Needless to say, the world in which we are living now (and have been for the last few millennia) has so many horrendous things wrong with it, regarding the depravities and hardships I mentioned earlier in #5. It gets to the point where I pretty much feel like I am watching the equivalent of the 1986 movie's original ending, where all the plants get sold across the country for profit, convince all the foolish customers to feed them blood, and cause nationwide destruction once they get big enough (symbolizing when sins like greed become so rampant that people create problems big enough to tear apart the whole of culture and society, in pursuit of satisfying their disordered desires). After years of essentially watching this unfold before my eyes, it is getting hard for me to not feel cynical about sexuality, look at humanity with one big facepalm, and feel tempted to ask God what this was all for and why I should thank him for giving us these "plants" in the first place.
I really don't like being in this state, and I do want to have more faith in God and the best of humanity. If you have any additional insight to offer me, as to how this facet of sexual desire is truly good and worth all of this, I would be very grateful.
Mark Cobuzzi,
I know you asked for bishop Barron's help but I'm willing to try. The easiest thing to answer would be that the reason sex is not needed in heaven is because the true union it points to is fully realized in heaven. All of our appetites will be perfectly satisfied by God himself, not just the desire for communion. Everything on earth is a cheap knockoff of the experience we will have with God including sex. How could it not be? Only God can satisfy our every desire to the fullest. No created thing can fully satisfy us not even other people.
Remember that the celibacy of priests is a discipline of the Church and not a mandate from God. The church could allow priests to be married in the future however unlikely. It's a vow they take upon themselves. It is their choice to be celibate. And if they cannot control their sexual desires they should not be priests.
God created Adam and Eve with their appetites subject to their reason. That is to say that they controlled their desires with what was best for them and in accordance with God. In the beginning their appetites did not drag their bodies around like they do to all of us in some form or another whether it be from sexual desire, the desire to eat/overeat, etc. Originally none of our appetites were meant to be a source of temptation but they were supposed to be (it seems to me) a way to commune with God. But after the fall, they all become temptations to sin. God didn't give us the sexual desire to tempt us, but to have a desire for communion. Communion is an essential part of who we are. Now that sex is a desire not easily regulated by reason because of sin, vows of virginity and celibacy are very honorable and highly esteemed as imitations of Christ and Our Lady.
I wouldn't say that Jesus, Mary and Joseph had no need of the sexual appetite if we understand it to mean a desire for communion since they all desired communion with God. But also I think it was to show us that the appetites can be tamed. We don't *have* to give in to temptation and sin.
Just remember that anything bad associated with the sexual desire is a result of man's sin not God's original creation.
Also I think the reason you keep hearing that the sexual appetite is so essential to our humanity is because it is ultimately the desire for communion with God. Communion with God is our entire purpose and end which is indispensable to our identity.
I hope that helps.
God Bless!
I would like to thank you for taking the effort to respond. Even though the advice is mostly stuff I already know, I still appreciate it. That being said:
I get that all of our desires will be satisfied by our union with God and our fellow man in heaven, but at least I am sure that some of the body's other faculties will still have a place. When Jesus Christ appeared to the apostles in the form of his glorified body for example, he still ate with them when they shared meals with each other. So in that case, it implies that despite the glorified body likely being immune to starvation, the faculty of eating still glorifies God's creation enough to have a place after the resurrection.
On another trivial note, I always keep on hearing an analogy that asking if sex has any place after the resurrection is like a kid asking if their parents would care about eating chocolate while being intimate. That analogy makes absolutely no sense to me, because parents can still enjoy candy on a regular basis as children, even if they think having sex is greater overall (and they can still enjoy sharing those treats together as part of the romantic evening leading up to sex). So in that case, the pleasure of eating chocolate and other candy is not *replaced* by the pleasures/joys of intimacy and is still good enough to have around, unlike the implication that the sexual union is pointless after the resurrection. It also really bothers me, especially after all the evil in the world that is rooted in lust, that we would presumably never get to see that part of our sexuality be redeemed after the resurrection (unlike other parts of our bodily/spiritual nature), which implies that after the Fall, our sexual longings are now permanently diseased and always will be until the day they are thrown away. It just sounds so pessimistic, after being told that all of creation groans in labor pains for the day it will be restored back to its original beauty. So what is the point of holding onto that aspect of sexual longing then, if it is going to be lopped off like a Gangrene-ridden arm anyway and, even during our lives on Earth, people are still able to stay married and want children without it.
I get that no created thing alone can satisfy us and only union with God can, but it would still feel like a rather Gnostic notion, if we were to go so far as to say that our union with God can only be expressed/glorified through the spiritual after the resurrection, and there are no unique ways that the body itself can also participate in expressing/glorifying that union with God and our fellow brothers and sisters.
I know that priestly celibacy is a discipline, but I dispute your notion that anyone devoutly religious has a choice in what vow they undertake. If they are fully conformed to God's will and want to fulfill God's mission for them as best they can, they do not really have a free choice in what vocation they undertake. Even if someone is not a priest, God could still be calling them to another mission that requires singlehood (especially if they are gay). In that case, any attempt to act on their sexual libido by marrying can only distract them from their true purpose, would never lead them anywhere other than a dead-end, and get someone emotionally invested in something ultimately meaningless. Also, I want to point out that other aspects of sexual longing still make sense. For example, if someone finds the nude male/female form to be beautiful to look at, he can still act on it in other ways even if they are not married, like those Renaissance painters/sculptures making nude art. But for the physical libido part, they only way it can be acted upon is to actually engage in sexual acts.
For a while, I was able to satisfy myself by saying that a human called to singlehood can still make use of their sexual appetite by showing others that they can still be humans and not have to mindlessly act on human desires. But nowadays when I think about it more, it sounds like "circular reasoning" to me. The conversation could go like this:
"Why does being human require all of us to innately have sexual thirsts, if people like Mary and Joseph show it not an innate calling of each individual to procreate and share marital unity? Why would even those people has such desires?"
"That's to show us that they can still be human."
"So the sexual longing needs to be part of all humanity, because they otherwise would not be able to show what it means to be human?"
It still does not explain why it has to be an innate desire to begin with, and that logic could technically be used to justify a hypothetical scenario of God demanding that angels live with sexual desires themselves, just so they can guide the specific humans that are meant to marry (since a human called to an unmarried vocation has just about as much use for that longing as an angel does).
Finally, I get that what you are trying to say is that our desire for the same communion we get during sex will be fully realized in heaven. However, there is a difference between part of our human nature growing and maturing into greater forms, versus being inadequate and replaceable by something more worthwhile. For example, a toddler would grow up playing with one set of baby toys and enjoying them so much. Once that baby grows up, that enjoyment might grow into more sophisticated toys and games, like sports, chess, video games, etc. However, the same faculties of the brain and body are participating in both and are merely becoming more developed. With a comparison of the sexual union in marriage versus spiritual union with God, you are talking about human that is even given a unique set of organs/differences designed for a unique act. But then that act is completely replaced, causing an entire unique part of our bodies to be rendered inadequate. So either we become less human after we are resurrected, or the sexual longings/complementation should have no role in defining us as humans (in which case then, why bother keeping it and declaring it as such a wondrous and holy gift, when it is enabling so much evil, hardship, and confusion in the world)? Does this imply that even *before* the Fall, Adam and Eve were already inferior/insufficient creations for God's plan, despite the Lord looking upon them and seeing that it was good, very good.
I disagree with your first point about Christ eating fish. He was showing the apostles that he wasn't a phantom or a ghost. That doesn't mean people will be eating in heaven. Maybe they will and maybe they won't. I was under the impression that we would be to busy trying to comprehend God in all his wonder.
Weird analogy. I've never heard that one before. I don't think its a very good analogy at all. It's just supposed to show that God is so much greater that you won't care about something like eating.
No, I'm not saying that we can only be satisfied through the spiritual in the resurrection. We commune bodily with Christ every Sunday when we eat his flesh and drink his blood. I don't know how we will commune with God in heaven but I think that's evidence that we will commune bodily with God in heaven.
I think you are confusing sexuality and the desire to have sex. The desire to have sex is not necessary to be human and it is not the only way to commune with other human beings. Friendship is a spiritual communion with others. But more importantly in the Eucharist we commune with each other *bodily*. Sexuality is about who we are as men and women. Jesus, Mary and Joseph all have sexuality that affects who they are. Jesus would have been very different if he came as a woman. It would change who he is and what he came to do. As the catechism says, "Sexuality affects all aspects of the human person in the unity of his body and soul. It especially concerns affectivity, the capacity to love and to procreate, and in a more general way the aptitude for forming bonds of communion with others." (CCC 2332) Sexuality involves the capacity to procreate but is not necessary to your sexuality.
Why do we have sexual organs in heaven? I have no idea. Why will we have fingers? Are we going to need to pick things up? Are we going to have a digestive system still? We won't need to eat so presumably we won't need that either.
I already know that sexuality as a whole is about who we are as men and women, which I why I kept on emphasizing that I am only talking about that one aspect of it with the physical appetite.
This whole thing just seems so confusing. I know that there are a ton of others mysteries that we still do not know regarding God and the reasons we are created a certain way (like the exact nature of the holy trinity). But with all the horrendous things going on in the world, that seems to negatively affect every single person and result in people *apparently* suffering needlessly for something meaningless (and how one major contributing factor to it all involves many people being confused and dismissing everything the Church teaches on sexual morality specifically because notable chunks of it make no sense to them), I feel like the only chance at anything getting better is if God, the Church, etc. can finally provide an answer for what we are truly supposed to do with that part of our sexuality and why God even deems it good in the first place.
That is why I am trying to either suggest to Catholic higher-ups that they should figure out an answer and/or pray that God finally gives humanity something to help better make sense of everything in that department. I just don't think this can go on much longer, seeing how messed up the world is and how damaging it is for everyone, regardless of whether they are secular/religious, male/female, married/celibate, unborn/adult, gay/straight, liberal-minded/Puritanical, etc.
We'll have fingers in heaven if we want to play the piano but in heaven, we won't need to practice.
...and there are sacramental graces conveyed through the Catholic Sacrament of marriage that are not otherwise conveyed.
...and you indirectly agreed to cooperate with the seven sacraments of the Catholic Church when you affirmed vows to believe in "one, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church" during the sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation.
My wife and I will begin RCA classes next month, I was baptized as a child but never confirmed.
I am wondering, will my wife and I receive a formal holy matrimony ceremony, eventually?
We were married at city hall.
Fr. Barron can I ask you some questions please? 1
Is it an immoral sin to a Catholic to get married to a person who is been divorced by the ex.partner without any reason and by force?
2 Is it a sin to get married to a person who has been divorced by his/her partner before and who has children from that marriage? If then what are the options can that particular person do rather than getting married again?
3. Is it a sin to get married to a divorcee ( even without children from the previous marriage)?
4 What can the divorcee do in general afterwords?
Look into the anullment process
@@ermamilspaugh Why? I was just asking the father about a Biblical teaching. Not from you. Sorry.
Ah ok Then can you tell me where can I find the annulment process?
Ok . Can you tell me from where can I get the annulment process which is enacted in Sri Lanka which is my country? Please.
Dear Bishop Robert Barron, in Personam Christum, in the Supreme Person: un cuore et anima una. Jesus Christ King of Kings, Lord of Lords; My God, My Builder and My Creator. Spiritum Sanctum mihi Christify. With the power and authority of God Father almighty. Amen.
When I wasn't a christian and a leftist I always criticized this church, all because I was born to catholic parents and I just wanted to show my friends that Christianity is unimportant for me.
The worst way I did to show that was by telling others that I won't marry a Catholic.There was a probability to do that if I continued to be an agnostic.
Now I can understand the importance of this sacrament and this church.
There is something fascinating, I had protestant friend who is a strong anti catholic, who played a major to make me a christian. Like two negatives gives a positive, combination of two anti catholics gave birth to a catholic.
Godspeed Thomas!
The transcendent "third"...
Do you need a civil marriage license before you can marry in church?
So, my next question is those that divorce. When people divorce, we can't divorce or dissolve the marriage because God is in the marriage. Or better yet we can't divorce God from the marriage. Is that right?
Yes; "divorce" does not exist.
Divorce certainly exists but the RCC prefers to call it annulment.
An annulment is very different from a divorce. An annulment does not end a marriage; an annulment is the recognition that the couple was never truly married in the first place. For example, if one or both of them perjured themselves on the altar and made their wedding vows with no intention of trying to truly keep them.
Hi Bishop Barron, wondering if you could do a video at some stage on Blessed Oscar Romero who's centenary of birth is approaching next week. I love all your videos, and I can probably say I have seen/listened to almost all of them. Have gone on to read the likes of Girard and Pascal because of the work that you do. In a time when the proposal of Christ to the world needs more than tradition, scripture and all of the rich and beautiful tapestry that Catholicism offers, it is refreshing and encouraging to come to a source like this for inspiration and motivation. Keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!
247 - Jesus Speaks to Valeria of Matrimony, and Divorce
Books, Sophia ; Valtorta, Maria . The Poem of the Man-God (p. 632). Kindle Edition.
Dear Bishop Barron, this is rather late (but than never) : Congratulation on your appointment as Auxiliary Bishop. I also hope you will continue to put out this commentaries and teaching videos about the Faith and others despite your busy schedule. What I like most about the videos is that you remain calm and gentle but firm in tackling difficult and obnoxious situation. May the Lord continue to strengthen you and give you wisdom in your vocation.
M. Foo God bless you!
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Hi there bishop barron. I'm from the United States but have been learning boulangerie in France for the past four years. I'm 22 years old. I have been a self proclaimed militant atheist since I was probably around 10 or 11. My tune first changed when I attended a mass on accident at l'église de la madeleine while visiting the church and I couldn't help but find it beautiful about three years ago. Now as a boulanger I also feel that I have a connection with the church through each's history and the symbolism that exists so strongly in the Bible about what has now become a passion for me. Now I've read Genesis, exodus, (part of) leviticus :/, Matthew, Mark, and Luke and I intend to read the rest (excited for revelations and the prophets). I was wondering if you could help me find the way forward, I feel a bizarre thing that is that I think about the church almost constantly (while working I listen to your videos and other documentaries and such for hours). Now I'm not saying that I'm "there" yet, that I have a faith or deep understanding but it feels very right. So anyways I would like advice. As well as what Bible translations or compilations you might advise (french/english) I'd like to know more about what the Bible meant at the time it was written, how it became understood as it was today. From where came the offenses the church or individuals of the church have committed in the past and if I should start with aquinas or the documents of Vatican II (as in learn from the beginning the theology or start with the church today and move backwards) I'm sort of at a loss here. And if you ever make your way back to france I would be delighted to meet with you and to share with you some of my work in boulangerie. I know you are probably a busy man but your videos have sparked what I hope to be is a deeper understanding of faith. One thing you said that clicked with me was that faith is higher than reason. Oh and one more thing in the parable of the sowers how do I keep from being the seed in shallow soil that doesn't take root?
have a discussion with lavar ball
The image of the bride and groom standing at the altar in front of the congregation, all of whom look extremely attentive, near the beginning of the video is remarkably powerful and vibrant. Where did this mass take place? Whoever designed this Church has a very keen command of structure, to exult the Altar and the cruciform, and to give the impression the entire room is built up to and around it. It's beautiful.
St. Giles Church, Oak Park, Illinois.
180 gallons of wine!!! 😨
Talk to Jordan Peterson!
A tua volontiete
Fr Barron, could you do a video on the new series American Gods?
Wow
I wonder if Deacon Greg Kandra from the old Australian blog follows Bishop Barron.
I love your explanation of marriage Bishop Baron.Sadly the Holy Father doesn`t seem to share this view.
PLEASE change the intro and outro music!! Honestly it gives the whole video feel wierd :D
Thank you Bishop Barron. I agree with what you're saying but I am also convinced we must make a strong stand to protect the sanctity of marriage. Therefore we must publicly, and legally defend the definition of marriage in society. What I perceived and many others perceived of your interview with Ruben is something that is a very different position. I know you were forced in a short time to respond in the interview but can you put together a video like this to clarify your position? I was just in Montreal and had to pay $20 just to get inside the Notre Dame cathedral only to see a laser light show that I believe was very disrespectful to the Faith. To avoid this spectacle with marriage I believe we must make a strong stand publicly so I will pray for you that we can do this not just elegantly not forcefully but gracefully.
Matt, tell me how I didn't defend marriage to Dave Rubin?! I told a gay man that homosexuality was wrong and that gay marriage poses a threat to society. I mean, what did you want me to do? Arrest him?! I frankly don't feel that an aggressive legal strategy right now is the best way to fight gay marriage. Show me where such a strategy is working in our court system right now and I might change my mind. But this is purely a question of strategy, not of ends.
You did, but even Ruben appeared to think that in your heart you didn't agree with the Church. He asked. In light of the problems with homosexuality within the church, especially with high level clergy, much of the devout laity might be a little sensitive on the subject. Every gay sex scandal within the Church has a huge negative impact on evangelization.
escabrosa1 But that's Rubin's problem, not mine.
Unfortunately, Rubin wasn't the only one who got that impression.
Hi Bishop Barron. Do you read news of Malta and it's recognition of gay marriage? It's troubling that such an overwhelmingly Catholic country such as Malta can do this. What chance does the rest of the world have? Please do a video on this.
Woo Hoo! Sacrament of marriage!
Very interesting and deep, I had the pleasure of studying the Gospel of John and in an essay on the role of Mary in the gospel of John, the link between Cana and the cross where the (MOTHER of JESUS) was present, and between the wine and the Eucharist was clear, in fact, the new wine symbolizes Jesus himself hence the reply to Mary...Woman, my hour (hour of the cross) hasn't come yet Jesus was the bridegroom AND the new wine. In Cana he transformed the water into wine, on the cross, he transformed the wine into his blood.
Hi. Bishop Barron. Please pray for my marriage vocation, that God will take us by the hand (that holy, loving, beautiful future wife of mine) and when the day comes, together, we'll create a holy family, raise saintly children and be saints ourselves (just like the Holy Family and Louis Martin). Pray very hard for me, my marriage vocation is quite in jeopardy. What are the rules for courtship by the way, that's most pleasing to God and where do you find her? God bless, Proverbs 31
Bishop, could you please make a video about Fr. James Martin. I feel like he's way out over the line in a lot of his interpretations of scripture and of certain catholic teaching, mostly on homosexuality. I think that Catholics need clarity on his views and how they fit within the magisterium.
Bishop, have you performed interfaith dialogues with any guests? If not, my two cents as a suggestion is having one with Rabbi Manis Friedman. Just thinking that such a dialogue would be very interesting to have. Apart from that, focusing on the topic of this video, I find my prospects of finding a faithful wife in the future to be shrinking and rapidly given the rise of Post-Modernism, nihilism, and feminism eliminating large swaths of prime candidates. I'm 19, I'm fairly Agnostic, if I were to convert to a religion, Judaism would probably be the most compatible given my reasoning and sensibilities. I'm currently in college trying to get a BS in Mech E. I know a lot of people will say that I'm getting ahead of myself and so forth, and that "you're going into your prime years (20's), you should be having fun and not worrying". But that's the problem, it's those prime years after getting a degree and getting settled that I would immediately like to start a family, and I can't do that with hussies like how a lot of women usually are in their 20's these days. Any advice for a young guy in the West - given the laws that allow people free passes in being unfaithful in marriage - for finding a faithful wife who values honor and integrity 100% of the time over animalistic instinct (hypergamy)?
For those young catholics getting married soon when picking a song a mass not too many people know that 'Here Comes the Bride' is not allowed at a catholic wedding.
That particular piece is not allowed at Catholic weddings for several reasons. First, it is from the Wagner opera Lohengrin, which is a pagan themed opera. Secondly, Wagner was a notorious anti-Catholic.
The music should be Christian in theme or origin, sacred music or classical music without pagan/anti-Catholic overtones.
Some priests probably allow this music b/c they are ignorant of its origin and meaning.
Most people don’t know the pagan origin. But if it no longer has a pagan meaning, does it matter? Wedding rings are allowed and they too are pagan in origin, according to John Henry Cardinal Newman. Yet, the Church can sanctify objects that were previously pagan, strip them of their pagan meaning and Christianize them, if the Church chooses to do so (like they did with wedding rings).
I used to play "Here comes the bride" at many catholic weddings, where do you get your information from? None of the priests never complained and the weddings song should be the choice made by the couple to marry, not the church.
You also get married in a Church because there is a punitive process nobody told me about called Convalidation. I was not a full blown ex-Catholic but I figured it wouldn’t be any problem to get married in my wife’s church. As a millennial I figured everyone should be grateful we were bothering to get married period. Now there is an ocean of red tape that surrounds me in the church and I cannot help but just say sour grapes.
Reconciliation and marriage of Catholics and ptotestants to draw the nations into Gods family!
Bishop Baron you should listen to God and get married.
rotex I am married! I wear a wedding ring. Priests and bishops aren't bachelors; we're wed to our people.
No your not. You may tell yourself that and others but you know that's not true. Your heavenly Father has told you to procreate. I am sure you would make a great Dad and be much happier obeying your Father in Heaven. Marriage is between a man and a woman, not between a Man and a Man or a Man and his people.
rotex I am a Dad. I have lots of spiritual children. By the way, neither Jesus nor Paul ever married in the conventional sense.
I believe your replies are nonsense, you have no spiritual children only God Does. You are not Jesus or Paul. I believe you know what I have told you is true. Thank you for your replies, I find them interesting and maybe others do to.
rotex. Do as I say, not as I do.
I agree with you, it sounds very much like bishop is taking an elite position where what is good for people is not good for him.
Notwithstanding, I think many would agree that marriage is phenomenologically equivalent to death!!!!!!!
The one major thing I do not like about catholic weddings is the church requiring the couples to procreate and even breed as many as possible. You do not have to complete a marriage by having children and that should be the choice between the couple, not the church.