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Honest 3D printer buyer’s guide: Find the best machine for you!
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Looking for your first 3D printer? Don’t spend a cent until you have watched this honest buyer’s guide. There’s some misconceptions and pitfalls with 3D printing and it’s vital to know these before you enter the hobby.
In this video we cover how to identify your preferences and intended workflow, how to gather reliable information from reviews and community groups, then explore several categories of 3D printer and who they are best suited for.
0:00 Introduction
0:52 What they don’t tell you about 3D printing
Replicator wiki: en.wikipedia.o...)
2:34 Will your 3D printer be a tool or a hobby?
3:24 What are your priorities in a 3D printer?
4:14 What to look for in reviews and community groups
My FDM 3D printer review playlist: • FDM 3D printer reviews
My review policy: teachingtechyt...
Example Creality Facebook group: / 1275880512515568
5:25 Budget machines
Base/cheapest Ender 3: www.creality3d...
Ender 3 V2: www.creality3d...
8:02 Mid-range machines
9:08 Manufacturer supported workhorses
Tiny Machines: www.tinymachin...
Prusa: www.prusa3d.com/
Lulzbot: shop.lulzbot.c...
10:58 Premium build it yourself kits
vorondesign.com/
www.ratrig.com/
Rat Rig V-core 3 build playlist: • Rat Rig V-core 3 part ...
seckit3dp.design/
Seckit SK-Tank build: • SecKit SK-Tank coreXY ...
hevort.com/
www.blvproject...
www.layerfused...
www.thingivers...
github.com/Ann...
CoreXY explained video: • CoreXY explained: Comp...
12:32 Others
13:29 I have my 3D printer picked, what do I do now?
My 3D printing beginner playlist: • 3D printing for beginners
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Merry Christmas folks! Some comments rightly asking why no mention of resin printers. This video is aimed mainly at beginners, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable suggesting people start with resin. Having said that, I have a video on the way about all of the steps of resin printing and how to achieve a mess free, efficient workflow.
I don't really think resin printing is a beginner subject. Yes, the quality is very impressive, but sobos the learning curve. When I began researching 3D printers as a tool and hobby a year ago, FDM is far easier, and less expensive, to get your hands dirty with. In 2022, I'll dig into resin printing.
IMHO, had I started with resin, I'd likely have been more frustrated than I was as an FDM noob.
Honestly I did start with resin, and I can say it's given me way less headaches in general than fdm. Fdm is awesome when it works, but the second something goes wrong the list of things to check and double check is enormous compared to a 200$ resin printer
@@kasiya2660 but resin printers are dirty and toxic so I won't recommend any new person to start that way. Better know how a fdm works and understand things about and security before going the resin printers path. And most people i'm pretty sure lives in an apartment that would be nothing cool to have a resin printer in there
I agree. The warnings about how careful you should be with the use of resins, make me glad and content with the FDMs. As long as you stay away from the ABS, ASA and similar filaments with toxic off gases you are safer. Those you should use an enclosure and vent outdoors.
I just got my first printer, and it's a resin: Mono X 6K. I hope I'm not in over my head.
Full agree on the "tool or hobby" thing. My roommate is interested in tweaking and building and experimenting with a printer, having seen mine, but me, I just want to print my models and tweak THOSE.
Too often I see animosity between the two camps. Nothing wrong with either, both very enjoyable.
I've been saying this myself too. The two camps are very different.
personally i have a bone stock prusa mini+ with all the options for a tool and a tronxy x5sa pro with an skr 1.4 turbo 2209's raspberry pi 4 8gb fluidd/klipper, mosquito magnum, bltouch, bondtech lgx, glass bed, tuned to 300mm/s that basically never prints because its perpetually in pieces for more changes and modifications lol
I initially set out to do the model side of things but I’ve found the tweaking side to be just as fun
@@FriedTurkey absolutely! I only have a prusa mini, 180 mm cube print area. I've made stuff up to 600 mm. Sculpture thing, took like 12 parts.
Such a mature and level headed approach with respect to the reality of 3D printing. Thank you.
I've got 3 Ender 3 V2's, a Sunlu S8 Plus and a CR-10 (which is undergoing a massive reconstruction). Best advice I can give is to study, read, study and read. Absorb all you can BEFORE dropping g a dime.
Next best advice: develop a thick skin. Some 'veterans' of 3D printing holds themselves in very high esteem and love to crap on people who ask questions they think are stupid.
The Teaching Tech channel, CHEP, and a few others have helped me more than all of the social media groups combined.
I agree that unfortunately some more experienced folks have no memory of what it's like to be a beginner. Some community groups are toxic but the best ones are fantastic.
I don't comment on videos often (nor subscribe to creators) but not only does it appear that you know what you are talking about and you show it, but your mindset is incredible. Pointing out that ones use case, skill, or even that it could be a bad product is not only valuable for this video and 3D printing, but also just incredible advice in general. Looking forward to getting into 3D printing now as well as what other videos you have available when it comes to tech!
Excellent video and advice, especially the part concerning that 3D printing isn't ready for the mainstream yet. I've met a few people that got really excited when they heard I was involved with 3D printing and I had to explain to them that while it's very rewarding, it's not easy because there's a steep learning curve. I did say that it was achievable but one needed to put the work into it.
Two things I would recommend. First, get an Ender 3, a clone, or some other popular printer like that. I know have two printers and they are not popular ones (and not clones). If I want to find something on the sites that have STLs available to download in order to upgrade my printer it is much more difficult than if I had a more popular printer. There are a lot of upgrades out there for the Ender series.
The other suggestion would be to buy a printer with an auto levelling sensor installed. My first printer didn't have one while my second one did. Setting up and printing with the second printer is much easier and more enjoyable. The difference between a not bad first layer and a really good first layer is sometimes hard to tell and having the auto bed levelling just takes that frustration away.
Any recommendations for printers with auto leveling
@@amaranthlim3175
I bought two printers from Eryone, a Thinker SE and an ER-20. They are my first printers as I got into 3D printing just over a year ago. The features for the price were better than anyone else that I could find at the time in Canada, especially when there were a couple of really good sales with coupons available at Amazon Canada. The Thinker SE for the size (300mmx300mmx400mm) and the ER-20 for the auto levelling. I bought the Thinker SE first and after about four or five months I got tired of levelling (I couldn't get it good enough for me and I was always trying to get it better) so I got the ER-20 even though it has a smaller bed (which is the. common size for printers that come with auto levelling sensors).
The one thing about the ER-20 that I don't like is if you leave the USB cable from the computer (that is turned on) then the screen and auto level sensor remain on even if the printer is turned off. The solution from Eryone was to undo a connection on the board of the printer. They also said all of their printers do that but the Thinker SE doesn't. It's an issue if you want the ER-20 hooked up to computer to manage the printing and that computer will be on all of the time. Perhaps there are USB cables that don't send power?
Eryone support was very good at replacing the sensor for auto levelling when mine was defective under warranty.
I've also found that the Eryone filaments to be very good.
I'm currently rebuilding the Thinker SE. I'm using the BTT SKR 1.4 Turbo for the main board, putting on a S42b v2.0 stepper motor (I know it's total overkill), closed loop driver control board on the X and Y axis, TMS2209 stepper motor controllers for the Z and E0, adding a 4.3" smart display, adding anti-backlash spring loaded nuts on the lead screws of the Z axis, and will be installing the E3D Revo later this year. If I get everything working as smoothly as I hope I might sell the ER-20.
Laying here in my bed late at night and thought "I wonder how much a 3D printer is, and what it can do" and boom! I now have plenty of knowledge! Great video man!
I wish I would have seen this a month ago! We got an Artillery Genius for my son. I'm 100% convinced that we could tweak it to make it great, but I've spent dozens of hours on just messing with the dang thing instead of actually printing. The last failed print finally broke me, and I have a Prusa Mini+ coming soon!
The ender 3 pro and ender 5 should be great too
I just had my first failed print on my mini. Other than it being a bit hard to put together it's a set it and go type of printer that will give you consistently great prints.
Wow, I've seen good prints from a buddy's Artillery Genius but didn't know it couple be a hassle to get to work. But, hey, at least it isn't the Makerbot Z18 they bought at work. Piece of crap has never been able to work reliably for more than a week and the print quality is pretty Bad.
Hey Eli! I've been trying to shoot my Prusa Mini+ and it's also extremely frustrating. Did you get your Prusa and did you get it printing smoothly?
@@rickyspectacular my Mini was okay until I added a revo micro and changed the Bowden tube to have compression fittings on both sides. Now it’s GREAT. 3D musketeer has a really helpful video on the upgrades I did.
Great video Mike. It's taken me a while and about six printers to figure out where I'm at on the spectrum. You present one of the most comprehensive list of points I've seen. As I'm a functional guy who looks at the printer as a tool I've decided to go with a commercial brand with great support. Thanks again for putting up with my stupidity a while back.
Glad to help, happy printing.
Main tip, don't ignore tips or points people make. its easy to ignore tips cause "it seems obvious"
I have found making lists to check through before printing or upgrading, forcing myself to take it slow to make sure i am not going to have faults hours into a print
if you’re new to 3d printing. i recommend purchasing from an australian imported or manufacturer. the $500 3d printers sold by aldi is decent and you’re guaranteed decent aussie after sales support and warranty via email or over the phone. the best of both worlds. brand like cocoon has excellent support especially when you can talk to a really person in Australia, plus the replacement part shipping is a lot quicker should something go wrong, you don’t have to send it out of country. i think it’s worth the extra price, after sales support is very important.
I agree a million percent ! I bought my ender 3 v2 from a certified seller in Australia and at least i know that if there was a problem i had somewhere to go ! It also helps to support Aussie business and to grow the industry here - i also bought some of their filament(seems fine to me )which sadly i don't see many Aussie RUclips creators promoting - stop looking at the dollars or free stuff and help Aussie business for god sake
Both of my sponsors (filament and resin) are Australian and companies I was previously a happy customer of.
Hey man, just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate this kind of content. I started 3D printing a little over 6 months ago. I bought a Creality Ender 5 pro. Its been a good unit, but out of service more than not. No big deal, I enjoy tinkering for the most part. One thing I didn't really realize until I got into this is how long things actually take to print. I always thought it was a little bit and you were good. I just printed a D20 for someone for Christmas and it took 32 hours hahaha. Not a big deal though! Set it and forget it. Totally worth it. I am off topic though, I wanted to thank you for all the guidance and assistance while getting into this. I thoroughly enjoy it, and between you, Makers Muse, and CHEP you've all been extraordinary guides in this awesome little hobby. I appreciate you!
I've been thinking of getting into 3d printing with the ender 3. Why has your ender printer be out of service so often? Would you have chosen a different printer?
Merry Christmas and thank you for another wonderful opportunity to absorb some of your knowledge.
This really helps me on deciding between a lower budget Chinese 3D printer or the far more costly Prusa 3D printer.
Since my goal is to make and design 3D objects, and not spend hours tinkering with the 3D printer, I think that helps decide it. I will do some aftermarket things, such as Octoprint, Octodash, but I want it to just work, and I want good support behind it from the company, not having to search Reddit posts where there are conflicting answers for an issue.
i want one for the same reasons , which one did you end up getting?
I'm not quite ready to invest in 3D printing yet, but I have to agree.
The quality and tinkering needed for those budget-range printeres definitely would make me either want to save cash for something like that Prusa or go the resin route (where instead of tinkering with hardware you're working with toxic chemicals ).
One use case to consider is someone purchasing their first printer as a learning tool. Their goal is to learn the ins and outs of 3D printing and decide if it is for them. Later, once they are more knowledgeable, they will be able to select a more permanent printer.
Just like someone may start with a bicycle that has training wheels even though they know that the long-term goal is to not use training wheels.
If this is your goal, to learn, look into where you may be able to use a 3D printer without buying it such as a local library or makerspace. A big advantage of this is that there may be people there to help you with problems as well as show you how to use the printers.
Another option is if you have a friend looking to move up to a better printer and willing to sell you his old printer. Assuming he is willing to help you set it up at your house and show you how to use it, this could be invaluable as he will have worked out the kinks as well as knowing how to get the most out of the machine.
Great advice I will be following.
The tool or hobby question is an important one, and the car analogy is a good one. Regardless of which side of that debate you fall on though, no one wants a car that breaks down all the time. There are LOTS of (usually cheaper,) printers that do so. My first printer almost killed my interest in 3d printing entirely. In the first 6-7 months of ownership I never got to "hot rod" it or even just take a worry free drive. Most of my time was spent stranded in the driveway. Late for work. Just trying to get the f-ing thing to start...AGAIN.
The lesson I learned the hard way is this:
Save up a while longer and buy a well made printer from a company that actually offers customer support and uses quality components. If you don't you'll likely just end up spending the money anyway replacing what broke. You will also lose VAST amounts of time troubleshooting and waiting for parts when things go wrong. My first printer was an Ender 3 and from day one I was sucked into a Bermuda triangle of poor/cheap build quality, faulty electronic components, and non-existent customer support. I know there are lots of people who love their Ender 3's, and if you had a good experience I'm happy for you, but If I had it all to do over again I would not buy this inexpensive a machine from Creality or any manufacturer. They are building down to a price point which makes every machine an unreasonable gamble and leaves ZERO room to pay for proper customer support when things go wrong.
I'm at the start of starting with 3D Printing, I agree with your statement about getting a good quality one. Can I ask which printer you're using/would recommend for a beginner now?
@@Ricofizz I too would welcome this information as I'm realizing that I would pay more for a higher quality machine to start that has FAR MORE reliability and customer support than what Creality is willing to offer. The money is worth the quality, so any recommendations I would greatly appreciate as well.
@@Ricofizz It isn't the sexiest answer as you'll hear this a lot, but Prusa is a safe bet. The initial buy in seems high in comparison to my ender 3, but I spent easily as much as that making my printer produce a high quality print reliably I.e. repairs/upgrades. Most importantly though, and I can't emphasize this enough, THEY HAVE CUSTOMER SUPPORT. If your printer has an issue they'll walk you through fixing it or will replace a defective part. That's just not a thing if you're spending 300 dollars or less. I was on my own as far as Creality was concerned. Thank god the 3d printing community is so willing to help, and we're willing to do that because in general it's the wild west in the printer manufacturing space. Anything goes. There are only a few companies that see the benefit in making a quality printer and supporting their customer base. It costs money to have someone readily available to help customers and provide replacement parts. So if you just don't have it in you to buy a Prusa, (maybe you don't like orange?) I'd go with the "manufacturer supported printers" suggestion.
@@jorrdanna6219 Yeah after a bad experience with the Creality CP-01 probably going to go for a prusa..
Thank you for your advice :)
I brought a Ender 5, two years ago. Worked beautifully right out of the box, it had no issues except for the cheap SD card that was included. I print mostly pla and it prints perfect. When I initially bought the printer I bought a bl touch, which came a few weeks after the printer so I got some use with manual bed leveling. I installed the bl touch and it works fine. I have about 700hrs on the machine and it runs like a clock.
The Ender 5 I reviewed has was also and has continued to be very reliable.
I'm struggling to flash new firmware to my ender 5 pro. I download the proper firmware, transfer to memory card and stick it in.. nothing happens. What did I miss???
Most 3d printing channels are awful. This is so well done, and concise. Simply lovely (nod to your obvious other hobby).
I am a process operator for a major 3d printing company. I absolutely love it and am amazed at what can be made
Hey Michael! I'm about to get started in the fascinating 3D printing ecosystem and I want to acknowledge that your channel has become one of my to-go learning channels. I truly appreciate the mindset, impartiality and excellent quality content you create. Keep up the amazing work (and since I didn't find a mention in the comments - big shoutout for the Senna t-shirt haha)!
YOU'RE MY FAVOURITE 3D PRINTING CHANNEL MICHAEL! Merry Christmas!
I prototype a lot, and ended up with an ender 3 pro. It was fine out of the box, but after adding a Micro Swiss direct drive and hot end kit, skr mini e3 v2, BL touch, and a dual Z axis lead screw, I have been very happy with it. It prints very consistently.
where do you get those parts?
I would say operating a 3D printer is very similar to operating a laser or waterjet machine as the slicer software works exactly like the toolpath generating and control software in these machines. You load a CAD file into the machine, adjust the settings for material type and cutting quality and it generates a playable toolpath and after you are satisfied u hit the CUT START button. However the 3D slicer is yet a bit more complex as there are much more options in comparison as the machine operates in 3D and not 2D and the process is also different so it surley takes some skill and patience to get into although it is still not hard to learn the basics but finding the right settings for a particular job and also the leveling/tramming process can be a bit tricky.
I have been using my work one outside of hours when no ones there, its like a $15k machine, i want something to continue growing my business at home. I really need something that is flexible cheap to buy and able to pay itself off in order to buy an upgrade. Bit by bit. I dont have time to buggerise around with it like a hobby so this was a good video. I decided i needed a toyota of the 3d printer world, reliable, accurate, does what you need it to do, refined with a decent easy software.
I also have the car hobby, and would love to add 3d printed parts for my build. The problem for me is that for automotive use, the printer needs a relatively large build volume and the ability to print specialist filament. These features are reserved for mid to high end printers, but it makes the barrier to entry quite high for someone like me that wants a printer to print functional parts (therefore it's a tool?)
You've been 3d printing for 10 years, so your choice and the technology was limited at the time, which makes your pursuit even more impressive. But if you were a noob like me looking to 3d print parts for your car (from intake manifolds to interior bits) where would you start?
Find a good printer with a large build volume (I have an ender 3 v2 and its 220x220x250mm build volume) there are larger form factor enders available. As far as specialty filaments, you could print most functional parts in PETG which does not require any modifications. In the future you could mess around with making an enclosure for ABS parts, and even swap nozzles to use carbon fiber and higher end filaments.
tldr; find a printer with a build volume you think is suitable, and print a ton of PETG parts (PLA would be horrible for any sort of part that's going into a car) upgrade when you feel you have the experience to do so.
I’ve had a CNC router for years and designed custom machines and not afraid of building one as I’ve had to upgrade spindles and vfd’s servos etc, any advice for a build parts list or website ( besides RUclips 😂) for putting together a bigger machine? That wouldn’t be a hobbyist level but allow me to make large props and things of that nature. Love this channel! Thanks for any advice
Thank you. I need to buy a 3D printer, but have no knowledge of what's involved. Happily, this was the first relevant vid I came across. Now a subscriber.
I bought ender 3 for about $200, and spent about another $200 to upgrade it. If I could go back in time, I would have bought Voxelab Aquila for about $200 and it comes with all the upgrades that I did. I would highly recommend that you get Voxelab Aquila if you're going to buy the ender 3
is it a good beginner?
Awesome video. The 3d printer market and information out there is overwhelming for beginners.
This is the best buyers guide i have seen. It really goes into everything people need to know before they buy their first printer.
"the search function is your friend" such a oooold saying yet soooo unknown in the forums... so sad... love the mention of it, and also the video by itself! Cheers!
Totally agree, think about what you may enjoy before you decide which one to get. That said, things change.
I had a lot of fun tweaking my first MM1.5 for about two years. Now I switched to a MK3S and a Mini because I don't want to mess with my tool anymore. Good video!
what is your experience with the mk3s? are you happy?
I went with a Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro and thus far besides putting it together which was easy, the bed had a little wobble I adjusted the rollers, everything else was good out of the box. It's self levelling, direct drive extrude, and just churns out prints. Things at least PLA pops right off the bed, and I haven't had a failed print since I took it out of the box and I'm a novice to FDM. Having started with resin first I spent a good week learning to get things to print right, and another week really figuring it out for back to back prints.
I avoided FDM thinking it was a hassle but wanted a cheap terrain machine for wargaming scenery, and bases, etc. The Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro has literally been hassle free.
Hi there, I am a beginner, I am happy with your video explaining why a person should not go out and just purchase one without having the proper knowledge. Thank you again 👌
Thank you so much for your videos 3 weeks ago I knew nothing about 3D printers. Now I have all these awesome skulls/key rings/ egg holders/ Crazy masks around my house. My Family think I'm the coolest dad ever. Your videos are excellent for beginners. Thank you again Cheers Caleb.
Sounds like an Ender 3V2 and some upgrades is #1 spot on my birthday wishlist.
3D printing is a full time hobby. I would recommend avoiding it unless you like to solve problems. You will have a lot. I assembled my Prusa a week ago and it has been a nightmare troubleshooting it. Still don't have my first print.
I have thought about gifting a 3D printer to a family member or friend on more than one occasion. What stops me is the realization of all the work, and sometimes headaches, that go along with owning a 3D printer. Getting good prints is a hobby all its own.
Awesome video! For me, it was just finding videos and communities that appeared to tell both the good and bad about printers. I think you and Thom (Thomas Sanladerer) give me much about the technical. Joel (3D Printing Nerd) and Angus (Maker's Muse) for the creative, mostly, though they have some technical understandings and Jesse (Uncle Jesse) for the resin side of things (which I'm not yet sold on a 100% though I do have a Phrozen Mini). Look, Listen and Read is the best advice I've yet heard for some one who interested in the hobby. And your price point look is spot on. Thanks Michael!
One idea is to join a maker space if there is one near you. I get to learn what I want and don't want, before buying my own. The space I belong to has two printers, an Ender 3 Pro that I have all to myself, because it has extrusion problems I am trying to troubleshoot and fix, and a FlashForge Adventurer 3 that I highly recommend to people who want something that just works. It is a little expensive for its size, but even small kids just put in their file, push start, and come back later to a beautiful print. The reason I want to use the Ender is that the things I want to build are a bit bigger than what the Adventurer 3 can make. So, check the build volume, before buying your printer if you have something in mind of a certain size.
I only clicked because your shirt! He was an amazing driving! Glad to see another f1 fan.
Best 3d printing channel. At least in my opinion.
Good video for beginners, yes, the first point about curbing your expectations is pretty important 🙂
No mention of resin printers? Those may be the right choice for certain use-cases (high detail prints, jewelry making).
Yes, but that's probably in the upcoming vids. The best thing I learned was it's NOT a p&p thing - I first looked on-line for different kinds, options,filaments ... I even looked at refurbished! Not so fast, glad I watched this. Can you imagine?
@@stacy4711 That's great that the video helped you! Have you found a suitable 3D printer, and got into 3D printing in the end? Or still looking?
Still looking, but at least I know a few things, thanks! I was wondering about the peripherals, like the bath, etc.,? Sort of needed each time, or occasionally? I remember when I set up my first 'darkroom' (closet near the bathroom, for the wash, lol) I winged just about everything myself, except the timer. Those square black timers are mandatory, even if you just buy a huge black piece of fabric to keep the light out.
Looking at 3d printer as a tool instead of hobby, i am quite happy with Anycubic Vyper - it's cheap, has automatic bed leveling, respectable build volume, and good printing speed. Also requires minimal assembly and got to printing within 30 min of opening box. I did not like Ender3 on other hand - I have probably received a defective unit though and it's been nothing but frustration since I got it.
One of my patrons purchased a Vyper and I was excited to see how it went because on paper the specs are fantastic. Unfortunately his broke down and he had issues with customer support. It really can be a lucky dip.
@@TeachingTech tbh I had this exact experience with ender3v2
Thanks for this video. I found it helpful as I'm trying to figure out to look for in my first 3D printer. I'll check out some of your other videos.
Hey! I’m here because I am a cosplayer and I really wanted to use a 3d printer. This was so helpful! I have a few printers in mind now, thank you!
Just in the market for a printer, only a beginner but might go for a mid range one to make it a bit more future proof. Your video is a great insight into models, thanks for making it.
I'm so glad this video came up when I searched for "how to get into 3d printing"
This is the definition of an Honest review. Instant sub
I wouldn't recommend buying the best right off the bat. The user base for lower end machines like the Ender 3 is multitudes higher which means there are far more experienced people out there to talk to. They are a great machine to learn on without having expensive crashes that might be expensive to fix on a high end machine. I know people that bought a higher end printer for their first only to find out they didn't really care 3D printing anyway.
I started with an Ender 3 Pro, used it for a couple of years then built a Voron using the Ender to print needed the parts for it. I still use it in tandom with my high end CoreXY, learned so much using and upgrading it. Hands on time just can't be duplicated by reading.
I think your journey is a very good one. Start with something cheaper. If 3D printing doesn't work out, you can sell it. If you like it, learn more by upgrading and if you really like it, you'll be well equipped to make a decision on a more expensive machine,.
My first 3D printer was / is an Ender 3 Pro. It's been upgraded quite a bit so it's not the same device it began life as but it's still a good value printer. Since buying it I've gotten a new mainboard, added a Raspberry Pi for OctoPrint, auto bed levelling and a nice stand built from IKEA Lack coffee tables. Biggest annoyance about it is speed which is sloooow.
I'd love a mono resin printer but I doubt it would work well in the house with the stink and all the steps to wash & cure. It would definitely be cool for miniatures, not much use for other things though. I think if I were to buy a new FDM printer that next time I'd buy a Rat Rig or similar - something which is potentially MUCH faster than the Ender 3 with a bigger build volume and ability to print nylon and flexible materials.
I started with a flashforge dreamer and then a tronxy x3a kit and really had to learn a lot to get that working. Then moved onto ender s and have slowly upgraded those over time. Also have a Cr20-pro and at the time i bought it it was one of crealitys best printers, but it was not actually that special and replaced the board, drivers, extruder and hotend. My last printer was the Prusa Mk3s+ and I was not ready for the prusa experience. I built the kit and really enjoyed it plus have a good understanding how it goes together. It self checked when I first powered it up and I was blown away from the user experience compared to the creality machines. It just felt like a printer that someone who printed a lot developed and took the time to add the features they wanted. Compare this to most cheaper printers that run a older version of marlin and the mechanical parts and software are just getting along doing enough to finish a task with no real care about the work. If I was to buy another printer I think it would be the Anycubic Vyper. It looks to have all features I would want from a mid range. flex plate, abl, silent drivers and a decent hotend setup. If money was no object then voron or ratrig kit or perhaps the new prusa printer when that comes out, but I don't have that kind of money for those three at the moment.
This is the problem with telling people to buy cheap 3D printers. If they do get into the hobby, they'll just end up spending tons of money and time upgrading it, when they could have just started with a Prusa or Voron.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart but not everyone wants to spend that kind of money at the start so they buy a cheap one and either love it or hate it. If they love it they will go on to upgrade and learn more and more. I know way more from all my problems than if I bought a mk3 ready made and it just worked.
In that case yes they are spending money, but they are learning how the machine works. A cheap machine that has been upgraded will make someone appreciate a premium coreXY kit and the features it has.
@@leesmithsworkshop If they hate it they can sell a Prusa/Voron and make most of their money back.
Mary Christmas. Every time nice to watch your videos. Thanks for your stuff. Yo are one from the best here!!
Well done! You provided information I had hoped to learn and some I did not know were an issue. As a first time buyer I, wrongfully, assumed that a more expensive machine is better. Not so, as the expertise and use are paramount.
The Prusa Slicer is free and has a pre-made profile for the Ender 3. I found it supercharged my Ender 3.
G'day, I've recently found your channel and it has helped me alot with understanding my printer. I've just received my Ender 3 Pro this week and have started printing as soon as I had it setup. Prior to choosing the printer I currently have, it was a bit daunting at how many 3d printers there were to choose from. Ultimately I had someone point me in the 'right' direction and ever since I think I know where I stand in what I'd like to do with my budget one for the mean time. -Until I grow a bit of further understanding anyhow. Thank you for your informative, none fuss, straight to the point vids.
Thank you for sharing this QUALITY information so well. I'm 71, a newbie & have a new invention I want to try to create. IT'S A FUN INVENTION but should bring me some good income, in time after costs are paid, & through the years that I have left, then for my daughter & grdsn (who will be my tech & business helper...I hope). I look forward to your other videos. I may purchase mid-range but would like to go all out!! I'm going to need it!!! Thanks again. Wishing u many blessings in whatever u do. L :)
I really like your way of thinking and how you breakdown your reviews! You give solid recommendation's and always say to check out other reviews. Very informative and you come off as trustworthy. 100% Subbed. Thanks for the help.
I ordered the Elegoo Neptune 4 and am very happy, for only 260€. Even with 250mm/s a good printing experience
Wow! What a great review. You told me what I almost, kind of, nearly, already knew. I think that as it's probably not going to be plug and play, I am just going to go with a CR 10 ish machine and consider the trouble shooting and tweaking as part of the fun. It's kind of like when you build your own drone from scratch. At the end of the day you have a better understanding than if you buy a pre built. I can use a screw driver, I can solder and I can code (a little bit) bring it on!
Thanks - this was great! A thorough explaination of what a 3d printer is. I'll be posting this to friends :)
This is one of the better beginner videos I've seen. I keep an eye out because folks are always asking what printer to buy. This is an excellent video to point to. Do you want to play with it, or print with it?
Thanks for the kind feedback.
Thank you this vlog helped this old man out with sorting the ideal printer for me
First time I actually see a youtuber that proposes to use carious sources. Insta sub for your passion. 🎉🎉🎉
Awesome t-shirt bro!!! And excellent video as always. Cheers from Brazil.
Honestly such a helpful video, really helped in coming to a conclusion and buying my first 3D printer. Thank you!
Thank you for this video; it's very informative! I've subscribed to your channel and over the next few weeks I'll be watching through your videos for beginners. Cheers!
It started as a tool, and became a hobby.
Thank you so much for your video, I now can see that 3D printing is a mine field but after watching your video I hope to take the right steps
Wow! You really nailed it on this on! You get what you pay for. And mechanical machines require maintenance.
I really like your t-shirt Michael. It seems like you know a lot about 3D printers and F1 pilots as well. Greetings from Brazil.
I recommend the prusa mini I have used it for just over 2 years and it is easy to start and is only 350. Make sure to not over look cleaning your printer with isopropyl alcohol and oiling it with super lube.
Great shirt, an even greater racer. I was watching the race when Aryton crashed. 😪
This was super helpful. I'm wanting to buy a second printer. Been using a ender3 v1 for a few years, did upgrades, but now I want a bigger bed. Stuck between ender5, and cr10 v2.
Excellent video! Great coverage over all aspects of the different types and prices. Look forward to next video
First printer = ender 3 v2 , easy to get running and upgrade not too expensive and widely available .
Merry Christmas to all !!! Very nice approach. I am going to dive into the 3D printing ocean and your help provided is remarkable for beginners. Also very helpful all comments !!!
Excellent video! It was exactly what I was looking for.
Tip: Make sure it is has Wi-Fi, Ethernet, built-in Camera, automatic bed leveling, English-speaking customer support, etc.
I've had a couple of resin printers for a while but want an FMD printer for testing rough ideas, tools and larger prints. After weeks of watching reviews I've settled on the Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ prebuilt. Why? Because I want to spend my time making my ideas come to life. I do not want to spend my time configuring and trouble shooting my paint brush. While I find the technology of 3D printers fascinating, fiddling with 3D printers is a deep rabbit hole I do not have time to go down.
That's very understandable. Sometimes people dismiss Prusa machines as overpriced but you are not just paying for the hardware, you are paying for the safety net that comes with it.
I really like your style. I may never graduate beyond my second-hand, reconditioned Cocoon Create Model Maker / Wanhao i3 Mini (which, incidentally, was incredible value for money) but if I decide to take the plunge, I’ll re-watch this video first.
Thank you very much, very informative and easy to follow. We will be buying one soon leaning toward an ender so far.
Step 1... You have to know your head from your A to 3d print. Sadly many people I see trying to jump into this have a difficult time with that and also the basics of shoe tying.
I clicked because of the Senna shirt, stayed because of the content!
Most 3D printers are just for hobby use only including the CoreXY machines. For more custom parts for design & prototyping you need a very expensive metal printer & post processing machines which will cost you ten of thousands of dollars. If I was in the market for a 3D printer I would get a 300mm X 300mm X 300mm CoreXY printer. But it would still be a hobby printer since they are not built for ease of use, metal printing, prototyping & structural parts. I want a 3D printer that works right out of the box without having to do a lot of adjustments to the G & M codes, or as we call it in CNC machinating, the part program & slicer software. I can manually program a CNC vertical or horizontal lathe & milling machine with no problem since I know where home position is at & where I want the tool to start cutting & the speed & feeds I want very easily while that can't be said with 3D printers since they do not have a consent surface feed function. Tough I rarely use the constant surface speed when programming manually. There are too many variables form machine to machine, from slicer to slicer, & filament to filament. Plus I don't care for the layer lines no matter how fine you tune your 3D printer you are going to get layer lines & stringing. And resin printers have a very small build plate & volume. I would consider a resin printer over a CoreXY printer if it had a 300mm X 300mm X 300mm build volume along with the capability of metal printing. Overall a CNC controlled lathe or milling machine is so much better producing prototype & structural parts.
I get what you're saying but I think your focus is limited. There are so many plastic parts in production for a variety of applications. Not everything has to be metal to be considered non-hobby. Check out my meet a maker interview with Myles. He has just expanded that business significantly due to its success. The volume of parts he makes is perfect for FDM.
Great Video, my advice would be: if it isn't sticking 90% of the time Its your bed levelling (in my case any way) , I have been printing to 2.5 years and have worked up from a fabricator Mini to a ender 3 Pro and in the last month I have only just managed to correctly level the bed in a way that suit me before that I would always have elephant foot or need to use hairspray.
I go for my own built Core-XY printers, have 2 and these have been running continuously for more than 6 months without major problems.
Witch printer will you build? I wanna also build one. But 1500$ for the voron is a bit over my price range. And the new prusa max are out of space
@@o0Vion70o I build a hypercube with part from severel parts from thingiverse one = 300 x 300 x 350 and the other is 220 x 220 x 300 with 3030 and 2020 profiles the small one is for scholarships.
I stumbled across really large CoreXY printers at TronXY: 2,400mm X 1,000mm X 1,000mm - Another hidden printer, VzBoT 330 - my next printer....
Really surprised you didn't mention the Railcore. Most of the CoreXY printers today get much of their design concepts from the successes of the Railcore. Still sold as a kit and supported by 713Maker and Mandala Roseworks.
There's so many that it's easy to miss some. My apologies.
@@TeachingTech it's ok. My feelings aren't hurt. I just figure it's was an obvious one. Great video BTW!
hmm... thanks, however you missed important details about analysis of investment:
1) Running costs: Electricity vs time vs using a 3D factory to print stuff for you
2) Overhead costs: filaments and cost vs what you want to do / achieve
3) Up front cost: (covered)
4) Features: bed leveling covered, but... no advice on heat limits for beds or heads? or even what kind of heads there are? etc...
should come with a warning that your 1st 3d printer might be a gateway drug that drags you down a rabbit hole of fun....I currently have 7 printers after picking one up for a bit of creative fun
ender 3 worked for me. the only upgrade is a 3d touch and rubber silencers for the motors.
Hi Mike, Merry Christmas! big fan of the channel, you helped me a ton getting started along with some other great ones...To be honest I think this is too much information for a beginner which will just scare someone new to this away, I started with an Ender 3v2 which was a great start on a budget and I quickly ended up purchasing a 2nd one, That being said if I had more money to invest I still wouldn't go anything higher then a prusa i3 mk3s for a first time 3D printer, you need something relatively simple for a fair price with a lot of community support, but now that the Ender 3 S1 came out I think that will be the new king for beginners. Still really enjoyed the video and learned more about printers I might have one day in the future :)
If nothing else, I want a beginner to realise that a first 3D printer can be a rocky road. If this video scares them off, maybe the hobby wasn't meant for them so perhaps it's not such a bad thing.
Well done! Video was organized, logically presented, and educational.
My use case is going to be a mix of hobby and small, very low volume busyness.
$252 budget for the printer and filament complained
I really like your channel and the way you approach testing 3D print hardware. I usually learn something.
I started out with a DIY repwrap in 2012. Now I use a Flsun delta or resin for some prints but if I want repeatability I use ultimakers and then a bureau for multiple prints
I've never used an Ultimaker, maybe one day I will.
Your Ayrton Senna T-shirt brought a tear to my eye.
This was good advice I like the forms lab. Nice resin finish
Very good video-guide. Sets proper expectations. Thank You.
Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas Michael, have a wonderful day.