You need a good dustmask! Here’s an overview of a few different options, focusing mainly on a comparison between the JSP Force8 half mask and the Trend Air Stealth
Great video mate , I didn't even know about any of these , I was quite the fool when I started to wear one at first , didn't check the seal or anything - albeit I wasn't doing anything too dangerous - just grinding up some herbs for a blend , but it seems without checking the seal and such I might as well not have worn the mask since I was breathing in the dust either way ! Keep up the good work mate.
Is the stealth mask good for package dust? I have to work inside containers and it’s full of package dust, I got sick one time and got an asthma attack
I think it would be yes but the important thing with any mask is to make sure it fits tight to your face so there aren’t gaps allowing the air and dust to get in without going through the filters
The A, B, E and K denominations refer to the type of gaseous contaminants that respiratory filters are designed to protect the user against. To summarise: A (Brown) - organic vapours and gases with boiling points > 65°C B (Grey) - inorganic gases excluding carbon monoxide E (Yellow) - sulphur dioxide and acidic gases K (Green) - ammonia and organic ammonia derivatives Other vapour and gas filters are as follows: AX (Brown) - organic vapours and gases with boiling points < 65°C Hg-P3 - mercury NO-P3 - oxides of nitrogen CO - carbon monoxide P ratings identify a product’s protection against particles. P3 offers the highest level of protection. Whilst an AX filter would be more applicable to some products - such as WCP-2 and SKD-S2, as these also contain particulate materials - the A2P3 and ABEK P3 filters offer the best compromise as a combined gas/particle filter. Note that airborne liquids in the form of fine sprays and mists require a particle filter. However, particle filters do not protect against gas or vapour so, when using aerosols or creating an aerosol mist, a combined gas/particle filter, such as A2P3 or ABEK-P3 is recommended.
Nowthen AD I think I’ve always got them from either toolstation or screwfix but we’ve been stretching out the lifetime of ones we already had in stock because I couldn’t find filters for either type of mask since covid (haven’t actually checked for a few weeks now though).
Canny. Interesting that some of the issues I've had as a first impression on the trend stealth are all worse on the JSP mask. Good to know! ...I've a close beard and the trend mask gets a canny seal.
Hi John, let me know how you find the Sayerlack paint, I don't think you'll be disappointed. I got a half mask for Brady for spraying, from the Movac range but pretty similar to the JSP half mask, it just seemed appropriate to get one approved by the spray supplier! The truth is I do very little spraying myself, although I will have an opportunity to brush up on it when Brady goes away for a couple of weeks in June!
@@Alastair_Freebird no I was looking at the masks at screw fix and I was trying to decide between the trend and the gvs, your video was a brilliant and when you mentioned you use the masks a lot in your line of work I thought you may have tried one since this video, thanks for the reply great video
Hi David yes observant Muslims do have the religious obligation to pray 5 times a day, but when you consider that it is done at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset, and late evening, then it doesn’t necessarily have to disrupt the work day much at all: if noon coincides with lunch break, and mid afternoon could even be just after the end of an 8 hour working day if the work day begins early. I think Mo probably wasn’t that strict about things, since I honestly can’t remember the subject even coming up with him and he certainly wasn’t getting a prayer mat out at lunch times or anything.
I had have one of the trend ones in my amazon basket, glad you recommend it. Have you any guys that use the small mask? If so how big are they roughly? Thanks
Good video, I also use that trend one and I have a pumped one similar to the one you had but think mines branded evolution. Although they are the best ones I've worn so far I still hate them!! A couple months back I briefly looked into professional pumped masks where the pump clips onto your belt and pipes air up to your head! I haven't fully ruled one out but it went on the back boiler when I realised it was approx €1500 and I might still hate wearing it! Plus I don't think I could wear it when I go fitting as customers would be doing all sorts of wondering! I would be interested to hear your thoughts are if you've ever seen them? On a side note would you have any interest in sharing a copy of your ts&cs template with me? I really need to do one up and could do with some inspiration!! (i do very similar work to you.) As always keep up the great videos!! Thanks, Jack.
@@Alastair_Freebird thanks a mill will pop you an email shortly! As for the masks they make many versions. I'd be using it for spraying too but at that price you wouldn't ever want to take it off. I presume it's as good as you can get in terms of your health and of course no issue with sealing to your face as its pushing air out continuously. But I'm still concerned about comfort! In the warmer weather it'll b great as there's nothing worse than being hot and sweaty while trying to wear a mask! Also the fact it's full face or atleast that's an option you'll not only get protection from bigger particles but I'm also thinking that spraying and fine dust in general can't be good for your eyes! A lot to think about but health is the most important thing I guess. That said it's a lot of money for me or anyone to spend on a mask that understandably you can't test or try on before purchasing!
@@Alastair_Freebird Hi mate, Just wondering if you got a chance to send that t&c template? I did email you but not fully sure I sent it to the correct address? Thanks, Jack.
Lorenzo Carcallas unfortunately it seems to be out of stock everywhere at the moment! www.its.co.uk/pd/STEALTHML-Air-Stealth-Half-Mask-MediumLarge-_TRESTEALTHML.htm
Thanks for covering this, protection is a neglected subject on a lot of RUclips woodworking channels. They often advise wearing a mask or other gear but don't say anything about how to find the good gear. I had an acquaintance at one time who worked for the Health and Safety Executive, and he used to use that phrase; "A mask is cheaper than a new pair of lungs."
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I love the comment about the beard and the wife! I only have stubble because she told me she likes how it looks!! Great honesty! Good work. Thank you.
Iestyn Davies thanks for commenting! 👍
You have a great ability to explain and inform in a way which is clear and concise. Great work
Thank you!
Thanks for the tip. I Use MDF a lot and I needed this safety reminder.
What kind of filters you recommend me using for this trend mask I work in a plastic grinding Room not a lot of air flow it gets really dusty
Great video mate , I didn't even know about any of these , I was quite the fool when I started to wear one at first , didn't check the seal or anything - albeit I wasn't doing anything too dangerous - just grinding up some herbs for a blend , but it seems without checking the seal and such I might as well not have worn the mask since I was breathing in the dust either way ! Keep up the good work mate.
Very useful! Thank you so much!
Glad it helped!
Thanks. That was very informative.
Fredwitrave its always nice to get a positive comment on an old video, thanks!
Is the stealth mask good for package dust? I have to work inside containers and it’s full of package dust, I got sick one time and got an asthma attack
I think it would be yes but the important thing with any mask is to make sure it fits tight to your face so there aren’t gaps allowing the air and dust to get in without going through the filters
All the issues with the JSP I found with the stealth, so got the jsp horses for courses I guess
I got force 8 with a2p3 jsp filters . Are these filters the equivalent of p3 / ffp3 protection for covid19?
Ιο Ιοα honestly I don’t know
The A, B, E and K denominations refer to the type of gaseous contaminants that respiratory filters are designed to protect the user against. To summarise:
A (Brown) - organic vapours and gases with boiling points > 65°C
B (Grey) - inorganic gases excluding carbon monoxide
E (Yellow) - sulphur dioxide and acidic gases
K (Green) - ammonia and organic ammonia derivatives
Other vapour and gas filters are as follows:
AX (Brown) - organic vapours and gases with boiling points < 65°C
Hg-P3 - mercury
NO-P3 - oxides of nitrogen
CO - carbon monoxide
P ratings identify a product’s protection against particles. P3 offers the highest level of protection.
Whilst an AX filter would be more applicable to some products - such as WCP-2 and SKD-S2, as these also contain particulate materials - the A2P3 and ABEK P3 filters offer the best compromise as a combined gas/particle filter.
Note that airborne liquids in the form of fine sprays and mists require a particle filter. However, particle filters do not protect against gas or vapour so, when using aerosols or creating an aerosol mist, a combined gas/particle filter, such as A2P3 or ABEK-P3 is recommended.
@@chalky1150 Excellent information thank you!
Where do you get the cheaper filters from? Thanks
Nowthen AD I think I’ve always got them from either toolstation or screwfix but we’ve been stretching out the lifetime of ones we already had in stock because I couldn’t find filters for either type of mask since covid (haven’t actually checked for a few weeks now though).
Canny.
Interesting that some of the issues I've had as a first impression on the trend stealth are all worse on the JSP mask.
Good to know!
...I've a close beard and the trend mask gets a canny seal.
Good review Alistair. What masks do you use when painting. I took your advise and got in touch with Movac with a view to ordering some Sayerlack.
Hi John, let me know how you find the Sayerlack paint, I don't think you'll be disappointed. I got a half mask for Brady for spraying, from the Movac range but pretty similar to the JSP half mask, it just seemed appropriate to get one approved by the spray supplier! The truth is I do very little spraying myself, although I will have an opportunity to brush up on it when Brady goes away for a couple of weeks in June!
I have the trend stealth and it's hard to breath through it
Get jsp mask
Have you tried the gvs eclipse?
blue army no would you recommend it?
@@Alastair_Freebird no I was looking at the masks at screw fix and I was trying to decide between the trend and the gvs, your video was a brilliant and when you mentioned you use the masks a lot in your line of work I thought you may have tried one since this video, thanks for the reply great video
Mo for mohamad ..is it true they need 3bhours a day to pray many times ?? How do you find that works with a mohamad employee
Hi David yes observant Muslims do have the religious obligation to pray 5 times a day, but when you consider that it is done at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset, and late evening, then it doesn’t necessarily have to disrupt the work day much at all: if noon coincides with lunch break, and mid afternoon could even be just after the end of an 8 hour working day if the work day begins early. I think Mo probably wasn’t that strict about things, since I honestly can’t remember the subject even coming up with him and he certainly wasn’t getting a prayer mat out at lunch times or anything.
Any issues with glasses fogging up with the trend mask?
No I haven't had that problem, the seal over the nose is good
The trend mask fogs my glasses, and I hate the hook clip on it.
I had have one of the trend ones in my amazon basket, glad you recommend it. Have you any guys that use the small mask? If so how big are they roughly? Thanks
Plus I struggled when using one of those full face snorkel things, beard meant I didn’t work grrrr
Good video, I also use that trend one and I have a pumped one similar to the one you had but think mines branded evolution. Although they are the best ones I've worn so far I still hate them!! A couple months back I briefly looked into professional pumped masks where the pump clips onto your belt and pipes air up to your head! I haven't fully ruled one out but it went on the back boiler when I realised it was approx €1500 and I might still hate wearing it! Plus I don't think I could wear it when I go fitting as customers would be doing all sorts of wondering! I would be interested to hear your thoughts are if you've ever seen them? On a side note would you have any interest in sharing a copy of your ts&cs template with me? I really need to do one up and could do with some inspiration!! (i do very similar work to you.) As always keep up the great videos!! Thanks, Jack.
Jack Finnerty drop me an email and I’ll send t&cs
I don’t know anything about those pumped masks except aren’t they mainly designed for use when spraying with chemical-based paints?
@@Alastair_Freebird thanks a mill will pop you an email shortly! As for the masks they make many versions. I'd be using it for spraying too but at that price you wouldn't ever want to take it off. I presume it's as good as you can get in terms of your health and of course no issue with sealing to your face as its pushing air out continuously. But I'm still concerned about comfort! In the warmer weather it'll b great as there's nothing worse than being hot and sweaty while trying to wear a mask! Also the fact it's full face or atleast that's an option you'll not only get protection from bigger particles but I'm also thinking that spraying and fine dust in general can't be good for your eyes! A lot to think about but health is the most important thing I guess. That said it's a lot of money for me or anyone to spend on a mask that understandably you can't test or try on before purchasing!
@@Alastair_Freebird Hi mate, Just wondering if you got a chance to send that t&c template? I did email you but not fully sure I sent it to the correct address? Thanks,
Jack.
Jack Finnerty I don’t think I received an email from you?
where i can buy this item and how much....
Lorenzo Carcallas unfortunately it seems to be out of stock everywhere at the moment! www.its.co.uk/pd/STEALTHML-Air-Stealth-Half-Mask-MediumLarge-_TRESTEALTHML.htm
Thanks for covering this, protection is a neglected subject on a lot of RUclips woodworking channels. They often advise wearing a mask or other gear but don't say anything about how to find the good gear. I had an acquaintance at one time who worked for the Health and Safety Executive, and he used to use that phrase; "A mask is cheaper than a new pair of lungs."
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You just want to look like the guys from the batman movie, I have no beard but my wife likes me in the mask🤔
You look a little bit like Chuck Norris' little brother.
Jake Stevens I’ve never been told that before!
Just maybe, the wife likes that Chucky look, not to be a troublemaker, just saying.....
So your wife is more concerned about you having a beard rather than your health! Nice lady. Lol.
Stringbean ha, that’s one way of looking at it!