I'M NOT A MOLESTER, WE WERE KIDS | The Steve Wilkos Show
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- Jess and her cousin, Tim, were once close... but a dark secret has caused a recent explosion in their relationship. #TheSteveWilkosShow #WilkosNation
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I feel so bad for them. Smh that family member that started all this needs to be punished. They destroyed the cousins bond and stole their innocence. Horrible. Just horrible.
And common. Far too common. I can't count the times... being a beautiful little girl isn't always a good thing. 😢
It’s common (rare, but common) for molested children to molest other children. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s usually due to them thinking it’s right cause they were violated themselves. We are often too young to know what’s really wrong.
@thetricyclehorse seriously, you think only the beautiful kids are molested?
His sus asf y’all feel bad for flies smfh yes he passed but something about him ain’t right
@@nila2108 i definitely thought he did something to the little girls. Because the lady said even when they got older he still tried to touch her and even went far as to ask her to suck his **** after he got out of the shower. Something is definitely off I just hope this lie detector was accurate but the way that lady cried and the anger gave me the answer I needed
Unfortunately this is more common than we want to admit. We need to keep a closer eye on our children and believe them when they tell us something is wrong.
Yea u right about that cuz I was taking advantage of at school in kindergarten by another female in a different class who rode my bus she told me
To
Follow her to the bathroom not knowing what sex was she start led to perform oral on me 🤦🏾♀️her cousin seen us went to the office and I was confused cuz Ian know it was wrong
@@menicemtv I'm sorry that happened to you.
Yeah it really does, i was touched many times growing up with close cousins and as I got older it caused a crap ton of mental problems, on my momma I'm not finna let happen when I have kids! I'ma teach em to speak out early and kick accurately cuz I don't play at all with this mess.
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. ❤
@@namelessSage yes I agree we need to watch out for for other kids and make sure our kids are okay
Hes not denying what he did to her. They were two children both being violated it's really sad she has so much hatred toward him, the older person who knew better and hurt them both is who they both should be angry with.
your saying he’s not denying what he did to her as if he is the one in fault.
@@Maddie-fk2tx Are you sure? >>> ''They were two children both being violated it's really sad she has so much hatred toward him, the older person who knew better and hurt them both is who they both should be angry with.''
She has a right to be angry at him! Just because someone is your age it doesn't mean they can't abuse you and do things to you ro hurt you no matter what the reason. He hurt her all the same.
@@CS-uc2oh Being angry at what someone did as a child is pointless. He himself was molested so he probably thought it was normal. She needs to forgive herself and forgive Tim or she will never heal.
@@slim-sheydie393 she doesn’t have to do shit idk why y’all try to tell people what they should and shouldnt do like forgiving isn’t gonna do shit and it’s not the only way to heal tf
I feel sorry for both of them. This other family member should be locked up for teaching them at a young age. I hope these two will come together and be strong
I agree, my heart goes out to them and pray they seek therapy to help them move beyond this trauma.
Teaching what. ?
@@Pierat253 The abuse, keep up.
@@keishiasaidit so what is his excuse for trying to have sex with her as an adult now knowing she never consented the first time. I feel sorry for her 🖕🏽him. 💅🏾
Exactly. The adult was abusing them and I believe that’s what started them being curious. They both need therapy especially the woman. The whole situation is sad.
I grew up with the same “experimenting” but never thought of it as abuse. We were mimicking and being grown…we thought we were
Me too
Same here
I lost my virginity at 12 to another 12 year old. And lots of ppl are convinced he molested me. They even convinced him that what we did together was wrong he even apologized to me for it but I thought we were just db and young and in love at least t that's what I thought
Same ! Playing “mama and daddy” and hide and go seek
Me too
She is truly broken...😢 I hope the male cousin can move on with his life after being forced to discuss childhood abuse he endured WITH HER ...
So he's the victim? He just manipulated all of you. The fact he tried to have sex with her as an adult is sick. He claimed it was consensual but her results show it was not.
They both seem to have some type of mental disability thuy were both victims but the truth is he. Touched her as a child
One of the major signs to look for in a pedophile is if he’s been accused. A little girl just accused him, there are many victims. He’s a pedophile now, what he went through does nothing for the victims that had to endure what he did to them.
Two kids experiencing with each other is not abuse. They’re just confused. This usually can happen with close cousins. This happened with me and my cousin. She was 11 and I was 8. I don’t hate her or have problems. We were kids.
@@pineapplesplash9166 she wasn't experimenting he was he was doing things to her and she didn't know what he was doing or why. He was molesting her because someone molested him
My heart just bleeds for all children who are defenseless against adults who prey upon them.
Its a generational curse.
In a lot of cases, it's children on children.
@@thablackkat9905 Yup…it is.
And unfortunately there's always an older family member (granny etc) that starts off the pattern by sweeping the abuse under the rug and encouraging other generations that it never happened and they are cast out of the family if its mentioned. Definitely generational curse.
Man I feel sorry for Jess . I also feel bad for Tim as well . I know there’s two sides to every story , but no kid would ever lie about being sexually assaulted or abused by other family members , unless the child is being coached by their mother or father . Again it’s hard for kids to say what happened to them up until a certain age when it’s finally time to tell what happened . If Tim didn’t molest or assaulted those underage girls , than who did ? Could it have been that other relative ? And where were their parents when they were both sexually assaulted ? Why didn’t they do shit for when all of this went down ?
It's also possible that Jess perceived his actions one way and he perceived them another. They were 5&6....
Kind of? They suffered the same abuse, sad how men are outcasted when it comes to sexual abuse
@@BigKash320 hold on I’ll edit my comment again
@@drew2fast4895 year olds know what’s up, they aren’t stupid, they are 5
@@onnie.6815 it’s called experimenting? and being curious as a kid :/ and that truly could have been the case. You can say what you wanna say but we don’t know any details or more about the story so
I don't think she understands that he, too, was being abused. They were being abused together.
I don't think she cares
@@isaaclopez8472 she doesn't, and she doesn't have to, but she should at least know that's what happened. That might even give her some relief.
Right because her inability to see that has made the other victim an abuser in her mind. Because she is a lesbian and struggling with that she’s blaming both MEN. Because they’re men and she’s a woman so I’m her head he should have known better even though they were the same age at the same mental level. She’s damn near mentally stunted.
She was hurt by him and the relative so I understand how she feels
Ok that don't mean touch on the damn girl tf ts not ok
I feel bad for them both honestly. The older family member molested Tim, and then recruited him to molest Jess along with him. Sad sad situation, lord please protect my children and all others from predators of all kinds.
No that's not how that works just fyi. If a kid is being molested then molest someone else they deserve no sympathy. They know how it feels they shouldn't do it to others. That's a f*cked up way of thinking. I was raped and molested by my half sibling and I never once thought of hurting another kid. Not f*cking once. No abuser deserves sympathy no matter what sad sob story they f*cking come up with. So maybe get some therapy to fix your way of thinking.
Tim didn’t molest her though?
@@Maddie-fk2tx he did do that to Jess. He confessed to it. Look again, and he didn't molest the teenager family member that's saying he did it to her (present tense)
@@kaciousrobinson440 they were children for fucks sake
Because they were the same age he didn't consider it molestation
Sounds like their parents totally failed them based on the description of their disgusting upbringing. Its sick to sexually assault anyone, especially a special needs person
That family member that started all this needs to be held accountable! They said he/she was older but they didn’t say age. If the abuser was also a minor then this goes even deeper because the abuser learned this somewhere. Such an illness in this family. Needs to stop
Unfortunately people are justifying his behavior bc he too was a victim (which is absolutely sad) & absolutely wish they brought that guy on the show...but victim or not, an abuser is an abuser & if people keep justifying it, abuse won't stop. Victim doesn't justify being an abuser. It helps explain it in some cases.
In her case, she caused him no harm so she doesn't owe her own abuser (or one of them) sympathy.
I will always stand up to hold any abuser accountable, bc it's their choice to take abuse & be a better person, or be sick & turn it on someone else.
I get that they were kids at the time but both those guys failed her & he couldn't be honest about it either bc he also played a role. Mad gaslighting to justify his actions, masquerading as "sympathy" in the comments. Seems like he got over it but she never could. Her Innocence was stolen from her by 2 males, who are supposed to love & protect her. 💔
@@BellaIsMyBaby being a kid, you don't have a clue how your actions can effect another person. He's a victim. Just because he's a male, doesn't mean he somehow had the ability to understand as a child. Clearly whoever did this to the both of them, is the problem!
He was a very young child who was molested himself. They both need therapy, and she shouldn’t hold it against him and call him a chomo. He was a child himself.
When children are unsupervised things like this can happen. One may watch something questionable on tv that they try to duplicate or they have been abused so in turn they become the abuser. Sometimes children mature early and hormones take over. This is truly a sad story. I pray the young lad gets professional therapy because she can’t go her entire life like this. She will only continue down a destructive path.
being abused and becoming the abuser is completely different from kids wanting to experiment and being curious.
Anyone who is abused and then in turn becomes an abuser deserves zero sympathy. It's no excuse at all. I was raped and molested as a child by my half sibling and guess what I never once thought about hurting another child. Not f*cking once. I made it my life goal to protect kids from predators. Abusers deserve no sympathy and there's no excuse good enough. If you're abused you know how it feels to be hurt in that way and never want someone to ever feel that way, ever
@@rayagray6321I felt this with my soul my pain and abuse stems from my older sibling
@@rayagray6321 I’m so sorry that happened to you I hope that POS is dead not even enjoying a prison meal
%100
It’s crazy, I was just telling my friend “sadly, a lot of us have that cousin we can’t look in the face at thanksgiving”. Other kids can be the worst when it comes to sexual abuse!
This :(
As someone who has experienced this by a cousin who was a little older then me this hits hard man :/
kendall wyd
Fact’s definitely can relate as well
same
Kendall what really happen to you
This, especially with nobody in her family believing her. I feel so bad and hope she gets the help she needs, she deserves to heal.
That family member destroyed so many lives.. I can’t help but feel bad for both of them bc they both are victims of this person
Yes, It's horrible & sad all around, as well as completely presentable obviously... but whether once a victim or not, never an excuse to turn around & be an abuser to someone else who's innocent. I wish they'd have dragged him onto the show though!
This is way to common. This is why I do not allow my children alone at cook outs, gatherings, or to go other folk houses if I go out to any parties...I keep cameras. This is the same true for multiple folks in my family, including me...hunching, playing house, experimenting...and we didn't know any better...left alone and unattended. Sad.
Same...playing house and stuff.
Yes sister. You right. I’m this way with my niece and nephews. I talk with them and they no the difference between good and bad touches. Gotta raise them differently
What the person above said is key, along with always keeping a stern eye like you're saying! Sadly babysitters & older family members do abuse kids sexually, so you can't trust anyone but yourself with your kids!
Unfortunately bc there's always gonna be someone initiating it due to societal influences & curiosity, I would never be okay knowing my children were "playing" house/Dr/etc. There is too much of a chance that someone is gonna cross boundaries resulting in sexual abuse violating another.
i’m not done watching but child on child SA is more common and doesn’t get recognized as that until those people grow up
i don’t mean “grow up” in someone having a childish attitude i mean “grow up” as in getting older
you do realize that it’s more then likely he was also being told what to do to her possibly? and that obviously it wasn’t sa because it would’ve came back that he did in fact molest her. there’s a thing called experimenting as kids, and this doesn’t seem to be a case where the abused became the abuser etheir so :/
@@Maddie-fk2tx i definitely agree with you, i made this comment when i wasn’t even done with watching the whole video and i didn’t make this comment to sound ignorant. the whole situation is heartbreaking and i hope they both get the help they need from what happened to them.
You are exactly right. A lot of these people commenting really don't know what they are talking about. I was sexually abused by another child who was just 3 years older than me. I'm sure she had been abused too at some point but there was NO ADULT PRESENT.
This happens a lot. It even happened to Jessica Simpson.
@@ladydi37115 The thing is he was sexually assaulted too, most likely molested as well.
Such a sad episode. Whoever molested both of them destroyed their relationship forever on top of all the other damage that being molested as a kid does to a child. I hope they are both able to get the help that they need to heal. Sending all my prayers!!
She's not registering that he was a victim too.... She's trying to make him a predator.... She's directing her anger at the wrong person
I wanna agree with you're comment as personally feel bad for anyone who's abused as well.
However, I believe most of us would have way more sympathy for him, if he didn't also turn around & abuse her, as well as a lack of remorse, since when she went to talk to him when they were older about it & he again tried to coerce her into sexual activity.
The whole situation is sad, bc this isn't just a little case of "experimenting," where all parties were willing to "play."
Ya know? I mean, people were violated, preyed upon against their will.
(As you said, he was too)
& It's sad, bc he doesn't seem like some horrible guy at all, But I have to put myself in both's shoes. & There's just no excuse.
He could've tried to stop it & protect her, esp as the female (so I get that's where the immaturity aspect comes in,) but still, he didn't just get abused... he abused her WITH the older guy. He was likely confused, kinda caught up in the middle (at the time, but can't be said about the towel incident later.)
That being said, she's the only 1 who was STRICTLY victimized.
She doesn't owe her abuser sympathy, personally, regardless of what happened to him, as she didn't do that.
That's where the issue is in this case, along with not quite grasping the impact on her, so there's not as much remorse as there should be.
He could've stopped it from happening to her, but didn't just let it happen, he also engaged.
I want so badly to defend him, as I know many young men have sexual control issues (especially due to societal influences/curiosity) ...but there's no excuse to take someone's innocence.
No excuse whatsoever.
I don't doubt the older guy could've also been abused too prior as well. It only takes 1 person to break the chain & thankfully it ended at her.
At least we know he's not an actual predator against children. I feel like bc she was abused, unable to get past it, she genuinely was worried when she heard the allegations bc she knew what she'd been through. Thankfully he didn't carry that behavior into his adulthood bc he was technically looking at same age people at the time. This really is a hard one & I know bc someone very close to me, did similar things to me & tried to R me when younger.
I personally feel bad for any child who's been through it, so I can have sympathy for him. I just feel like he is still accountable. Being a victim too, doesn't not make him also an abuser. I hope you get where I'm getting at bc I personally agree they should've absolutely made the older cousin come on the show! I wouldn't have done the show without him going if it were me, if not for the allegations of molesting children which again, very happy to hear him pass.
Thank you so much this is me in the video
@@BellaIsMyBaby I never abused her everything we did was willingly was it wrong? Yes we we kids yes we we unattended yes but as far as me, forcing her to do anything, it wasn’t like that now I’m not taking that she ain’t hurt, but she trying to paint me as it’s not true.
@@realdaghost7367 if you read my other comments you would see, I did say you seem like a stand up guy who was young & naive, but then what was she talking about later when she went to talk to you? I'm asking bc I live with a family member who did infact push me & others & he still to this day does odd things. I am sorry for anyone who went through this, including you. I hope you understand my comments are my personal feelings in general & I do not know your personal situation. If that was you on the show, thank you for being honest as that said a lot. Why didn't the other guy come on?
@@realdaghost7367and now you having a 17 year old girl give you head… when you victimize someone you are no longer a victim yourself.
It Seems Like The Other Relative Made Tim Do That To Her. But As A Young Child She Wouldn’t Understand That She Just Knows That Tim Was Apart Of It So I Get Why She Blamed Him As Well. Hopefully She Can Heal & Move On.
Absolutely. I agree wholeheartedly.
Comment here is actually the most realistic and true you're absolutely right.
Here's the 1 issue, bc I imagine that could be what happened. But it's never an excuse. He didn't seem remorseful considering he tried to later coerce her once older. Problem is, we should always call out abuse, even if a person was abused, doesn't mean they will go do the same. If the older man pushed him into it, maybe she's hurt that instead of trying to stop it, he added to it making him just as guilty & effecting her unnecessarily. I have sympathy for his pain too, but cannot excuse his actions as a result. Always call out the abuse regardless or noone will ever be held accountable.
I am extremely proud of her for coming out. That takes courage, bravery, and resilience to relive that trauma especially on national television .. you got an army of people behind you girl. You
Coming out with the abuse? Or....
@@BellaIsMyBaby good question
I believe she still battling with her sexuality and is using the abuse of the past to "justify" it because her relatives are homophobes. I knew that when she said a relative asked her "why are you the way you are". Pinning it on molestation will usually get homophobes to leave it alone. But growing up watching the wilkos show I can confidently say that 99% of the women who came on the show to expose abusers are usually in a heterosexual relationship and or raising kids of their own.
That doesn't prove ANYTHING BUT the homosexual women don't come on this show as much
@@lordtrill7731 I see you a little slow…it PROVES that molestation does not determine nor changes one’s sexual orientation. If it did then all those women on the show would have claimed lesbianism but they didn’t.
A lot of people are tryna act like you are stupid you are absolutely right
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@Blue_SeaSmokeWrong.
Even after the test she didn’t understand that he hasn’t ever touch any children and they both went through something horrible at such a young age …
I hope that they both can heal
Like I said, kids that age don’t know what they are freaking doing! The older relative should be stoned to death for what he did to both cousins that caused their personality and behaviors like that! They were kids and they didn’t have any ideas what they were doing so therefore, Tim is NOT a pervert nor a pedophile at all when he was that young age because he was curious! The blame goes all on the older male relative for molesting both of them! I feel sorry for both cousins for what they gone through, I’m glad he passed for not molesting any other kids nor his female family members besides the cousin!
Abuse is abuse. All abuse is just as bad. As bad as he did to them, what if the same thing that happened to Tim, happened to the older cousin too?...Does he too get a pass or extra sympathy? Heck no. No abuse should ever be justified, right? Or noone would ever be held accountable!
Therapy is much needed
I feel bad for jess I cant imagine the poor trauma she's been through but I do believe in fact that adult family member needs to be held responsible for his actions but I hope they all find peace and happiness!
This one hurt my feelings, her tears and pain is oh so familiar and its coming from a deep place. Prayers for her mental. May she finds peace abd comfort
okay? and what about him? or are we just gonna care only about her and show sympathy because she’s a female? As if he didn’t go through the same exact thing she went through as they were both kids
@@Maddie-fk2tx wtf you on? You under my comments finding something in what I say. You send your blessing and sorrow to him, if you would like to. Don't force others!! Besides, this comment was made withing the first few minutes of watching BECAUSE THATS HOW I FEEL. I also, felt sorry for him AFTER hearing that the same man molested him before Jess.
Just when you think your problems are overwhelming, you get a dose of someone else’s horrible experience. Dayum
My brother was a child himself when he started molesting me. I was 3 and he was 8. Being a child himself didn't stop him from doing horrible things.
There's never excuse for abuse.
💔 Families need to hold each other responsible. I can actually relate to your story & we have to live with them & did for many years during & after the abuse. I can't believe how young you were though, wow that hurts my soul. Some boys are just sick in the head. I was always scared of my brother. Just know you're not alone. It's better to get it out. ❤️Sending you love. We are strong since we are still here, not abusing others despite what was done to us!
This is why as kids when we become an adult we don’t tell people because they don’t believe you. Praying for this lady hope she can come to some peace x
I just love the way she talks, she sounds so sweet and innocent. I just wanna hug her. 🫂
Sweet and innocent? She talks like she's traumatized and scared.
@@beckyterra3493 i meant her voice and how she pronounces words😒
I feel sorry for Tim. Jess forced him to admit to being SA’d on social media and then on national television. I know she’s hurting, but it should have been his choice. He was traumatized too.
So true!
They are all victims
@@FTFT-03 who said they aren't? But she was wrong for what she did
@@FTFT-03 But she shouldn't have forced him it's hard talking about sexual assault
@@morganluevanos3368 let’s be real to understand what happened it had to be said
Molestation is heartbreaking sad and the devil
I feel maybe the other relative was showing them what to do to each other mind you they we’re the same age , cause Tim did say that relative did the same to him .
oh yeah most definitely
I live where this man lives and he’s going viral RIGHT NOW for sexual acts with a minor. You can’t write off what someone did as children and this is why. He needs to be back on the show Steve!
This story was heartbreakingly sad...
Black families can relate to this story too much.
Kids explore and do stuff not knowing it’s wrong. Me and everyone I know experienced kids THE SAME AGE touching when being little
There's always someone who is an unwilling participant. When a person overrides them or violates their boundaries, that's what turns it from experimenting into abuse. I've experienced both unfortunately. Doctor doctor & house are not a way to explain away a scenario like hers though. Ya know? So to experience those "games" & being abused by a family member around my age are different, but either way are horrible for a child's developmental health & future relationships.
That other relative is an uncle I bet.
@@TrulyPurpleslife i think they meant the adult who was abusing them as kids.
At 8, I was held down by a 7yr old boy in the children's room of a church. Thankfully, it didn't go in, but he went through the motions, and it was just as traumatic. I was SA'd by 3 men and a boy, at different times as a child.
I'm very passionate about this topic and have done extensive research. An abused child has an average of 5 abusers in their lifetime. Most abused children become gay, addicts, or work in the sex trade. About half become abusers themselves. We need harsher punishments for them to protect our innocent children.
This is so sad. These two turning on each other when the older family member who taught them this needs to be punished. I hope they find peace.
I feel so bad because it happens more than people know child on child Molestation is overlooked soooo much because no one thinks kids would do that but usually it happens when an adult is in the equation
that cocsa needs to be discussed and it needs to be discussed with the nuance it deserves. people are always trying to determine if it's abuse, what the intentions were, this that and the other. the abuser can be a child, maybe even a child that thinks the behavior is normal, and still be abusive. and the victim doesn't owe the other child forgiveness. the child can be unforgiven and not exclusively at fault at the same time, they aren't mutually exclusively.
there are no winners in this situation, because there are never winners when a child is abused
literally when i was little i was forced to give oral to my cousin by other older cousins and was touched mutiple times to touch them and it sucks how common this is because it fucks you up your whole life
Omg coming out and speaking up is the hardest thing you can ever do I still have never spoken up about my abuse bc I’m Scared of ppl not believing me as well poor Jess my heart aches for her
I was also molested by a family member that was 5 yrs older then me while I was like 7 but they said if I told anyone they’d kill me when I said don’t ever touch me again
I will believe you. I was never touched by a family member. But was raped at age 12 by 2 of my dad's workers. They threatened me from telling. Took me close to 4 years to tell. Then by a cop in my late 30s. Did tell on him. He just got fired and could never be a cop again. But I never got help. I will tell you when this happens please get help. I'm old now so I've learned to survive and hold it in. I come on here and tell it and try to talk to others. But I believe each of you. Sending you hugs
@ bless you hun so disheartening I hope one day justice is served ✊🏼 either now or the other world it will be!
Jess seems like she ain’t wrapped too tight just saying. Also, if y’all both were being molested at a young age how dare you expose him on social media when he is a victim himself. Smh.. I’m so upset for Tim. And don’t blame him for your sexuality. Sorry you were Molested, but don’t take it out on the other victim in the situation
right? And it would be different if he was abused and became the abuser, but that’s not the case and honestly who ever did this to both of em is just watching everything happen and not caring because he’s taking the fault for something he never did
I feel the worse for him honestly. He did the work to overcome and work past his demons and SA. Then she comes in like a wrecking ball trying to destroy his life. She should have just focused on the older person that understood what was happening. Not the other victim. She is broken and sadly is intent on staying that way...
Not wrapped too tight is putting it lightly, tbh. It's gonna sound bad saying, but she doesn't seem smart enough to know how to begin overcoming this, unlike Tim.
She mad till this day that Tim fucked her ex gf…he beat the test they the same age he didn’t lie about what they was doin at 7-10 …Ion get y she called him out instead of the older guys n the family that was touching him and her smh all because some one said they child got touched by Tim she immediately jumped shipped on Tim do to the fact they didn’t no better cuz Jess seen on fb where he was being accused of touching someone kids she wasn’t he even happy that he passed the lie detector test
let’s not use lesbianism as a consequence of sexual assault… 😅
•yes, sexual assault can force someone out of the closet, but
•it’s very harmful to portray lesbianism as a coping mechanism to trauma. people gay cause they gay.
as a fellow Pisces mercury, I agree!
Couldn’t have said it better 💯
How tf you going to say her experience for her? That's her reason and her story. You just can't rewrite it to fit your experience.
For her that’s the case and that’s her experience you can’t change that for her
uhmm no ma’am i totally disagree & somewhat agree with this statement specifically because I’m a victim of molestation as well so 90% of the folks apart of the LGBTQ community has been sexually abused!! which causes trauma obviously & make you see all MEN or whomever the same way unfortunately:( so in their minds they think the same gender is the answer to their trauma js!😏
I feel so bad for both of them - it happened to me - as a victim its hard - words of advice - be strong and be you 😢
Same I feel bad for both of them they were both being sexually abused and sodomized and victimized by that family member. I went through something similar and I understand her hurt and frustration but she needs to understand that they are both victims.
& only 1 of those victims created a new victim. So if you found out the older cousin was also sodomized, who gets held accountable? It only takes 1 to start a chain & only takes one strong person to break it.
2 children acting out together are both victims. It’s a learned behavior. I feel sorry for that entire family; it’s a generational curse
Unfortunately it's more complicated than just him being a victim. He could've chose to either go along with his abuser or speak out. Unfortunately it seems boys are less willing to stand up against it & he likely was made to feel like it was ok. This whole situation is horrible. Families need to start calling out abusers & break these chains!
(& Which 2 were acting out?)
Bc the female victim wasn't acting out she just didn't know how to stop it obviously. She clearly was an unwilling participant.
@@BellaIsMyBaby you are all over this comment section.......
@@knxcholx when I feel passionate about something yes, bc I have a similar incident that happened to me, as sadly more people have than would like to admit. & Bc it's a CLOSE relative, it effects everyday of my life.
@@BellaIsMyBaby that guy when he was a boy, was victimized. Little boys don't know the effects of their actions. How can you hold a child responsible? They were both victims.
@@knxcholx I Actually already spoke to him a while back & he seemed genuine. I fully Agree! It's overall heartbreaking, but someone COULD have said something. Kids know it's not right. Some of which could've prevented more victimizing & clearly some extreme trauma.
My aunt who’s two years older than me, came to the states when she was 8 and I was 6 and she made me do things to her. As a child it was a burden to me because I didn’t wanna do it. It felt gross. But as I got younger it was more like a secretive thing that we kept a secret and eventually and unfortunately I didn’t know any better and did this to my sibling/other cousins. I stopped maybe by 9/10 but she continued to even my younger sisters and her nieces and nephews. I have this bottles up inside of me because I didn’t mean to do this to my cousin and sister. I was very young but i am still mad she did this to my younger sister who is 7 years younger than I. Meaning she continued this into her teen years. I’m even ashamed to write about it but I try to tell myself I was just a kid. I know my two year older aunt was molested as a child by her dad. I just found this out in my 20’s. How do I even confront her about something that happens while we were kids.
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Whoaaa. I feel like all it takes is 1 person & 1 person to call them out so more people speak up or prevented more pain, that being said it is NOT YOUR FAULT. Never do that to yourself. As in how did you know she did it to them too? Hurt people are the most Likely to do the same but never makes it ok. I just wonder if you all know, could you maybe band together & get some sort of closure? Everyone who didn't speak up was likely just as scared as the next. We feel guilty & icky even if we aren't to blame or someone violated us. It took my family many yrs to out our brother for his sicknesses
This is so sad! But I knew he molested his cousin once he admitted to performing oral sex to her on stage. Whoever “the other relative” is needs to be held accountable too because this family is fractured because of these acts that were done to them by “the other relative”. I hope they get the help they need to overcome this trauma. God bless them 🙏🏾
Molested!!!! What!!!!
@@Briski83 Yeah… you know what molestation is?
“Playing House”
That’s why we have a ABSOLUTELY NO CLOSED DOORS policy.
Until she starts her healing process, her anger will always be misdirected. It’s sad how often this happens in families. The results came back that he wasn’t molesting any kids and she still didn’t wanna accept it. Her hurt won’t allow her to acknowledge his hurt and his truth(the truth).
She trying(even when it’s not necessary) to save kids and it’s because nobody was there to save her. I’m glad the truth came out. And I hope that she gets the help and healing that she need.
My heart goes out to Jessica ❤
It absolutely breaks my heart what Jess went through, but it also angers me that she blames her being a lesbian on her trauma. This adds to the stigmatization of the LBGTQ+ community. Sexually traumatized people can be and are also straight. Tim was also assaulted and unfortunately it normalizes hypersexuality in children during that time. My heart breaks for both of them
I agree with you. I’m bisexual and I was abused as a kid too, trauma could dictate sexuality to an extent (sexuality and orientation are two different things), but trauma can’t dictate your actual orientation. My trauma didn’t make me bi, but I can say that it kinda makes me lean more towards women cuz of my issues with men. I think that she’s self loathing in some way over both her trauma and her orientation, so I think that’s why she’s saying that. Either way, she shouldn’t be saying that cuz in reality it isn’t entirely true.
when I was about 12 I babysat a 6-7 year old maybe younger she showed me something that a adult clearly had down to her but actually performed it ….she showed me a dry humping missionary position and I did it because I didn’t know that this was something adults do for pleasure I didn’t even know it was any type of satisfaction from it because I just thought she was playing, we both had clothes on but clearly she actually had this preformed on her and thinking about it now it disgust me because I wish I would’ve known the serious then and what it meant so I could tell an adult but she was definitely being molested smh and now no one will ever know because it doesn’t get discussed even though she’s re-enacted those things with other children when she would be around me …..I blame myself sometimes because maybe I could’ve stopped whatever that adult was doing to her ….I just didn’t know that it was sexual because I was a sheltered child who wasn’t really allowed too much access to social media …..so it’s definitely messed up that’s she’s blaming another child who was a victim right along with her smh ….that person that hurt them plotted on them BOTH he anticipated on one of them copying on what he did he knew they would do that cause I guarantee that isn’t their first time harming a child and getting away with it…..they need to put that person away and direct the anger and energy towards that person …..
Well I mean it’s not a stigma if she literally said her molestation made her hate men and not be attracted to men.
the LGBTQIAXCVKYAS need to stop playing victim and being snowflakes. Y'all need to know that molestation is an open door to same sex attraction. Truth hurts
I come from a huge family. Tons of sleepovers. NEVER HAVE WE EVER tried to experience with each other. What in the gtfo type shit. And the fact that the gf said she's known him a whole year and never had he given off those vibes.... girl shut up.😅😅
I feel so sorry for that woman, I hope she learns to love herself and be happy.
This happened in a lot of homes where cousins would hunch on each other 💯💯 it happened in my aunties and uncles homes smh it’s really sad because back then they’ll tell all of the kids to go in the room and get out of grown ups face and things like this would occur 🥺🥺 this hit home on so many levels and makes me upset
Definitely but I don’t think it was a sexual act it was just mimicking what they’d seen
@@NoName-n9o5y I agree
Happened to me too with my cousin but it was a girl 😐 I was about 6. After experiencing what I did I super hyper sexual after that at a young age and I would do inappropriate things with other children my age at daycare. Knowing about things that I shouldn’t know about at my young age. It was weird. Nobody knew about it either
Just because she hasn’t seen that side of Tim, doesn’t mean anything- people can hide things from people that they claim they love.
I think Tim and his girl needs to stay away from the family this is sad
I feel so bad for her. I really appreciate how Steve let her get her emotions out. This was really sad.
Kids don’t perform oral sex on each other as a normal thing.
Kids experiment, but usually that's once or twice and can be worked through and most children do experiment. Molestation is different and is always for the pleasure of only ONE person in the sexual situation, and causes trauma for the other person for life.
Exactly
I feel so bad for her. It’s not hard to believe children when they say somebody hurt them.
She got me crying 😢
Omg right
Tim may have become overly sexualised and curious because he was being sexually abused at a young age. Making him as a child, normalise behaviour that he should never have been exposed to when so young. He did bad things possibly because he was taught those bad things by an adult predator. I think counselling could benefit them both, as it’s a huge trauma that has made a huge impact on their lives.
This bothers me, she blames him but he doesn't deny it. Steve is right, he was a child.
And then to acuse him after he passes, ypu are foul for that.
My heart goes out to her send her prayers 🙏🙏
and what about him? :/ that’s kinda fucked up how the female is always cared more about in majority situations especially like this, he was a child too just like she was too, he went through the exact same stuff when she did
@@Maddie-fk2tx I agree with you on that .
He was a child too what about him? Y’all never care about the young boys.
She needs to speak to someone about sexuality because it doesn't work like that, she was going to be a lesbian regardless of the abuse
Hearing her speak is breaking my heart, This is sad
I feel bad for Jess for what happened to her. But for her to continue to accuse him of child abuse even after the results is wrong. For her to accuse him of being a child molester is wrong after she received the results that he hasn’t been.
Jess said b4 that happened to her she wanted children. And after it happened she said that she cannot be with a man because now they disgust her. Myself at that age knew I was attracted to females even in head start, b4 kindergarden. I Never suffered trauma like hers and my feelings never wavered. And I'm Not saying suffering a trauma like hers will always produce that outcome in all children but it does happen. But no child is ever born gay. If it isn't caused by trauma like this Then it is caused by the environment they grow up in. 7x💯
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@@mmondrag25 YouR MaMA. 😅
Angry L. Blaming her sexuality on someone else. I know people who had worse experiences than her and they didn’t turn out gay. I also know gay people who never had anything like this happen to them. If you’re gay that’s on you.
Exactly.
Steve’s face @ 10:15 looked like he wanted to cry 😢
Hunching at 7 years old, talking about it was consensual smh THAT'S SICK AND DISGUSTING. Kid's are innocent and don't know about anything sexual unless someone exposed them. This dude should be in jail! This is disgusting.
What do you mean by Hunching ?
this is unfortunately the result of a adult molesting one child and then that child performing the same acts on other children, it's a horrible circumstance to be in an awful thing to have to live with, this is the result of childhood incestuous sexual abuse.
I never touched on my cousins or found them attractive i find it weird when ppl say they messed with their cousins as kids
Some people get messed up at an early age
@@angell48 you are right.
The question of " can another child molest another child"? Yes, like another bully another child. Sad..
Experimenting between young children is actually fairly common even without them being victims of abuse
I had this with a male relative I was 8-10 and he was 3 years older. I’ve never told anyone but I’ve struggled forever. I don’t know though if it was abuse or just him exploring as he was underage himself. 😢
That's abuse luv. It's called grooming. If y'all only did it when nobody grown was around or paying attention and then they threatened you if you would tell anybody. If you had to fight them off for so long it started to feel normal and you just went with it because by this time it has become more of a relationship especially if you have to love them anyways because it's your blood.. it was probably going on longer with the imaginary(hunching,kissing,etc.) And then one day that increases your hormones which is why you probably started forming womenly functions and then boys start roaming so they quickly shift their interest and now it's like they know they can experience what y'all did without consequences or embarrassment but you now have those images everytime the next man encounters you. You feel nasty because life goes on of you seeing that same person at every family function or live in the same house with them like nothing ever happened and you start to question your value and your sanity...... Just A theory but seems like child abuse and long-term PTSD! Address it or you'll give it power
This continues to happen to this day 😢 kids are taught this at an early age and it fucks up children’s brains man .
That poor girl is messed up from trauma. She’s not mentally her age poor girl 😢
this man is traumatized too !! he was definitely forced as a child to do things he didn’t want to do i feel bad for her but nobody should be down playing this young man feelings
I feel bad for them both , but they need to hold the other adult accountable , obviously someone is still molesting children in this family .
I truly feel for this family... he was projecting what had happened to him. Hurt people hurt people but he learned to do better. I see no wrong here. This was 100% preventable if the parents had been watching their children...
She’s so damaged she don’t even realize they both were manipulated and abused. It’s sad. They both need healing. I don’t expect them to ever be close but I pray they can find closure and love for one another. She needs to stop making him out to be a monster. He was a little boy being taught those things. I feel sorry for them both 🙏🏾
Just fyi..
7-10 year Olds do not normally engage in sexual behavior with other kids. Self discovery is one thing but small children acting out in a sexual manner as he described is NOT normal! I'm already concerned just after hearing him say that was "normal". If you experienced this as a child it's not a normal phase of childhood. He didn't start that behavior on his own someone else had to introduce him to it. Very scary
Yes he molested her period point blank. He's thinking since they were all kids its not.
Neither are to blame, both were children and actively being abused and acting out from it. They both need help not punishment.
@@jessicamcgaughey8551 both abusers can be blamed
@@officialkiva_ both of them are victims, the one to blame is the older relative who abused them both and them abuse each other.
Both are victims and both need help.
It’s true it’s the worst feeling and you feel so alone when you come out about the sexual assault in your family that doesn’t talk about it. Your family deny you and want nothing to do with you if you speak up
Two Victims here, the REAL Predator who caused all of this is the one that needs to be confronted.
I think Jess is the most gorgeous person to be on this show, besides Steve of course, I hope and pray she finds the healing she so desperately needs and deserves. Much Love
There is nothing wrong with being gay stay true to yourself
@DrDavid BonnarIII Get a life
@DrDavid BonnarIII Trust and believe you are not the only one 😂😂 getting a degree today is like a diploma. You must not have much if you have to bring it up ☠️
I literally cried while watching this
He’s so passive aggressive like he’s saying she’s lying but then switching up again 😭 he’s so weird
8:18 proved that he’s a sicko.
It’s crazy he passed and she still tryna throw him under the bus I do hope she heals all the way tho
Even if he wasn't guilty, his older co-conspirator who was older needs to clear his name
Co-conspirator. The child was 6 and being forced, it ain't like they planned to do it together
I’m seeing and hearing a serious lack of education in this family, this story is horrific 😟🥺
Feel bad for both, he's been slandered for some consensual (albeit inappropriate) behaviour with his cousin and she's severely damaged by the older family member that took advantage. Also poor gf to find out he was fuckin about with blood relatives
They need to be healed and seek proper help they need and I hope they get the support they need and deserve may God bless them and other households that's dealing with the same issue 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾